From d.griffith at btinternet.com Thu Sep 1 08:41:57 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 08:41:57 +0100 Subject: Mp3 Gain for Mac Message-ID: <2651F3A7-ADD0-4CA3-A82F-9C4783B119CD@btinternet.com> I thought I should feed back on Mp3 Gain for Mac. This is a freeware utility which I used a lot whilst I was on the Windows side. It has been redesigned with a Mac style interface and so far I have been very pleased with it. As far as I can tell all the features are accessible with Voiceover. MP3 Gain losslessly edits Mp3 files so that the default playback volume of a file is adjusted. For example I put Audio books onto a Phillips Mp3 player for my sister to listen to. She is hearing impaired and will struggle to hear the the books even at maximum volume on the Phillips. Using Mp3 Gain I increase the inbuilt mp3 setting of perhaps 89 db to 99 db. The result is that she is able to hear the Mp3 files fine on her Phillips. There is limited feedback on the progress of conversion but the program does announce when the conversion is completed. A Google search for Mp3Gain for Mac should turn up this utility with no problems. There is a warning about I-Tunes files but on the vanilla mp3 files I have been working with there has been no problem. . David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Thu Sep 1 11:29:31 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:29:31 +0100 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?TextGrabber_=95_reghardware?= Message-ID: Hi Sans iphone here so anyone want to try it for accessibility? http://www.reghardware.com/2011/09/01/app_of_the_week_ios_textgrabber/ If it works with voiceover perhaps someone could report back? Regards G From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. From moriond at mac.com Thu Sep 1 14:03:41 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 03:03:41 -1000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re=3A_TextGrabber_=E2=80=A2_reghardware?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Gordon, Maybe Sandy Tomkins would like to comment on TextGrabber, but I can add a few words since I picked this app up when it was briefly on sale for $0.99 about a week ago. TextGrabber is accessible with the iPhone, and uses the ABBYY Fine Reader OCR engine, so it should be able to recognize text in more than 60 languages. I did get usable results from this when trying it on the fly, but not with the same accuracy as with Prizmo (which usually lists for $9.99 except for a period of a little over a week at the beginning of June, when Creaceed put all their apps on sale for 70% off for their third anniversary and the price dropped to $2.99; this was announced on this list). I think the main reason for the better results with Prizmo comes from its feature where you can take pictures with Voice Control by saying "Take Picture". This minimizes blurring that occurs when you have to double- or split-tap a camera button to take a picture for OCR. I tried this on an iPhone 4. When you launch TextGrabber, you're immediately in the mode where the camera is switched on. Doing a two finger flick "Read all" will tell you that you're in the Viewfinder, and VoiceOver will announce "ABBY TextGrabber" (label at top of screen), "Info" button (beside the label; will tell you the program version), "EN" (language setting for OCR; abbreviation for "English" which is the default language), "FR" (abbreviation for "French" -- I turned this on in "Settings"; all checked OCR languages are identified with two letter codes in the lower left corner of the screen), "Shoot" button (immediately above the "Home" button at the bottom center of the screen; use this to take picture), "Settings" button (lower right corner of the screen), "History" button (bottom left corner of the screen, just below language identification), "Show Photo Album" button (bottom right corner of screen, just below "Settings" button). So basically, apart from the labels at the top of the screen that identify the app, all the controls are at the bottom of the screen. On the left side, you get the announced OCR languages, and the "History" button that lets you access past OCR text results. On the right side, you have the "Settings" button, where you can set up additional recognition languages, specify a "Search engine" (more about this later), and set switches for camera flash, snapshot saving, and crop; below that you have the "Show Photo Album" button that lets you choose an image from your camera roll to OCR instead of taking an image with the "Shoot" button. In practice, the only control I used was the "Settings" button to add OCR languages so I could check other language performance. Picture taking is similar to the technique with Prizmo: (1) optionally check light levels with the $0.99 "Light Detector" app before starting; (2) start with camera lens (upper right corner of iPhone) roughly centered on the page you want to OCR, and aligned with the edges, and slowly raise the iPhone above the page with two hands to keep it flat, stopping at around 9 inches for standard letter pages; (3) after you hear VoiceOver say "auto-focused", split tap on the "Shoot" button. The next screen will be announced as "Crop gripper", and is meant to let you adjust the corners of the image to crop the active area. In practice, the only options are "New Photo" (button in bottom left) and ""Read" (button in bottom right). Just do a four-finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to go to the last element, or else flick to the "Read" button, and double tap. If successful, the OCR can take as little as 10 or 20 seconds, and you get the results text screen, which you can double tap to edit. At the bottom of this results page are buttons for "Send by Email", "Copy to Clipboard", and "Search in Web". I ran four test cases on a passage from a book in French: Prizmo, TextGrabber, then both apps with an image of the page I had taken using a camera app called "ClearCam" that takes a series of pictures in a row, and saves the clearest to the camera roll. Prizmo (with VoiceControl) gave me essentially a perfect result. TextGrabber, even trying to hold the iPhone still and split tap the "Shoot" button, gave some recognizable text, but tended to garble names. When I sent the ClearCam camera roll image to Prizmo and TextGrabber, the TextGrabber result was better, and the Prizmo result was slightly worse. I couldn't really say whether the basic OCR engine of Prizmo or TextGrabber was better in one case or the other. In the instance where I use the ClearCam camera roll image, they made different decisions in some cases. What was very evident is that the VoiceControl feature of Prizmo made it much easier to take a good image without blurring when touching the shutter controls. The "Search in Web" function of TextGrabber sends the text from your OCR to a search engine, such as Google or Yahoo. When I tried this on the text just photographed with the base TextGrabber app, there were too many mistakes to pull up the reference. But when I used the "Search in Web" function on TextGrabber's result from using "Show Photo Album" and selecting the ClearCam image, instead of the result from using the "Shoot" button and taking the image within TextGrabber, the results were good enough to pull up the actual passage on the web. This was the introduction to Marcel Pagnol's book, titled in English, "My Father's Glory". Of course the web reference gave access to the text with no errors. I have sometimes gotten pretty good results with TextGrabber, but I'll routinely get better results with Prizmo. In general, I can improve my results in TextGrabber by using the $1.99 ClearCam app to take the pictures, then selecting the last image in the Camera Roll for OCR in TextGrabber via the "Show Photo Album" button. My guess is that someone starting from scratch would find it difficult to use TextGrabber. With Prizmo, after practice you can improve to the point that you get better results with all the OCR apps, even though you won't start that way. Sandy can probably give more comments based on her extensive tests of OCR apps. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 1, 2011, at 00:29, Gordon Keen wrote: > Hi > > Sans iphone here so anyone want to try it for accessibility? > > http://www.reghardware.com/2011/09/01/app_of_the_week_ios_textgrabber/ > > > If it works with voiceover perhaps someone could report back? > > Regards > > G > > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Thu Sep 1 14:21:31 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 14:21:31 +0100 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_TextGrabber_=95_reghardware?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As usual Esther you are an angel. So seems like a little more work yet to get it just so but promising. Thanks for your insight. G From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. On 1 Sep 2011, at 14:03, Esther wrote: > Hi Gordon, > > Maybe Sandy Tomkins would like to comment on TextGrabber, but I can add a few words since I picked this app up when it was briefly on sale for $0.99 about a week ago. TextGrabber is accessible with the iPhone, and uses the ABBYY Fine Reader OCR engine, so it should be able to recognize text in more than 60 languages. I did get usable results from this when trying it on the fly, but not with the same accuracy as with Prizmo (which usually lists for $9.99 except for a period of a little over a week at the beginning of June, when Creaceed put all their apps on sale for 70% off for their third anniversary and the price dropped to $2.99; this was announced on this list). I think the main reason f etc. From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Thu Sep 1 15:36:45 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 00:36:45 +1000 Subject: strange skype problemb Message-ID: hi all when in a skype call i can not get to my contact sauce list the only way i can get there is by hanging up the skype call in progress any one else having the same problemb with the latest version of Skype From khwicca at gmail.com Thu Sep 1 16:22:59 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:22:59 -0400 Subject: Mp3 Gain for Mac In-Reply-To: <2651F3A7-ADD0-4CA3-A82F-9C4783B119CD@btinternet.com> References: <2651F3A7-ADD0-4CA3-A82F-9C4783B119CD@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <019801cc68bb$097b4b70$1c71e250$@com> I have wanted to be able to use this on the Mac! Where do I get it? Does it come from the App Store? -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:42 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Mp3 Gain for Mac I thought I should feed back on Mp3 Gain for Mac. This is a freeware utility which I used a lot whilst I was on the Windows side. It has been redesigned with a Mac style interface and so far I have been very pleased with it. As far as I can tell all the features are accessible with Voiceover. MP3 Gain losslessly edits Mp3 files so that the default playback volume of a file is adjusted. For example I put Audio books onto a Phillips Mp3 player for my sister to listen to. She is hearing impaired and will struggle to hear the the books even at maximum volume on the Phillips. Using Mp3 Gain I increase the inbuilt mp3 setting of perhaps 89 db to 99 db. The result is that she is able to hear the Mp3 files fine on her Phillips. There is limited feedback on the progress of conversion but the program does announce when the conversion is completed. A Google search for Mp3Gain for Mac should turn up this utility with no problems. There is a warning about I-Tunes files but on the vanilla mp3 files I have been working with there has been no problem. . David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Sep 1 19:18:03 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:18:03 -0700 Subject: Mp3 Gain for Mac In-Reply-To: <2651F3A7-ADD0-4CA3-A82F-9C4783B119CD@btinternet.com> References: <2651F3A7-ADD0-4CA3-A82F-9C4783B119CD@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <187D4596-432A-432C-BD2B-23F950C92B21@gmail.com> I can't remember. does it cause it to clip at all? or does it just normalize the files to 0 . Remember anything above 0 will clip. Take care all. On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:41 AM, David Griffith wrote: > I thought I should feed back on Mp3 Gain for Mac. This is a freeware utility which I used a lot whilst I was on the Windows side. It has been redesigned with a Mac style interface and so far I have been very pleased with it. As far as I can tell all the features are accessible with Voiceover. > > MP3 Gain losslessly edits Mp3 files so that the > default playback volume of a file is adjusted. For example I put Audio books onto a Phillips Mp3 player for my sister to listen to. She is hearing impaired and will struggle to hear the the books even at maximum volume on the Phillips. Using Mp3 Gain I increase the inbuilt mp3 setting of perhaps 89 db to 99 db. The result is that she is able to hear the Mp3 files fine on her Phillips. > > There is limited feedback on the progress of conversion but the program does announce when the conversion is completed. A Google search for Mp3Gain for Mac should turn up this utility with no problems. There is a warning about I-Tunes files but on the vanilla mp3 files I have been working with there has been no problem. . David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Thu Sep 1 20:32:45 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:32:45 +0200 Subject: iSync under Lion? Message-ID: <1B45A414-C4D3-43AB-B4F7-F91EBAFE0D08@busboom.at> Hello everyone, Since I recently added several new contacts to my Nokia phone, I decided to update my Mac Address Book by using iSync after having paired my Nokia phone to the Mac via Bluetooth. When I went into my applications folder, I didn't find iSync. Did I do something wrong when installing Lion, or does the Mac under Lion handle synchronization of such things differently now? When I went into my Mac Address Book, I found no menu option which would allow me to synchronize the Mac address book with the one on my Nokia. Bluetooth was enabled, and the devices were paired. Thanks a million and good night to all! Mike From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Sep 1 21:23:11 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 13:23:11 -0700 Subject: iSync under Lion? In-Reply-To: <1B45A414-C4D3-43AB-B4F7-F91EBAFE0D08@busboom.at> References: <1B45A414-C4D3-43AB-B4F7-F91EBAFE0D08@busboom.at> Message-ID: <362F86B4-742D-4441-B55A-537D3A6F009C@gmail.com> did you check under utilities? If not go to finder and hit cmd shift u to get there quickly. Take care and good luck. On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Since I recently added several new contacts to my Nokia phone, I decided to update my Mac Address Book by using iSync after having paired my Nokia phone to the Mac via Bluetooth. > > When I went into my applications folder, I didn't find iSync. Did I do something wrong when installing Lion, or does the Mac under Lion handle synchronization of such things differently now? When I went into my Mac Address Book, I found no menu option which would allow me to synchronize the Mac address book with the one on my Nokia. Bluetooth was enabled, and the devices were paired. > > Thanks a million and good night to all! > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Sep 2 00:09:45 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 09:09:45 +1000 Subject: More On 1 Password Message-ID: <0206A9EC-5002-424F-8794-01524166FEA2@internode.on.net> Hi! Sorry for the delayed response in regard to Anie's message about 1 Password and ways to contact the developer of same. Yep, I was aware of the 1 Password forum, indeed I pointed this out in an earlier post and Anie's right, the "feedback" link has gone but you can - as I have - write to the forum, the developers monitor that. I prefer to follow 1 Password on Twitter, that way I'm alerted to any changes in the application and can thus provide feedback where appropriate as anyone else can if they have Twitter and follow 1 Password . The software does seem to be a little odd with the Safari extension right now as I've pointed out earlier but that certainly doesn't mean that 1 Password is neither inaccessible or unusable as you'll see in the workarounds I've written to the list. If 1 Password is being unfriendly towards you? Well you can always try another Password manager and Roboform comes to mind, I'm told that Roboform for Safari on the Mac is accessible, I've not tried that but Roboform is certainly accessible on the Windows PC and other platforms. So once Roboform is installed you can "Export" all your password data from 1 Password and reimport it into Roboform. From d.griffith at btinternet.com Fri Sep 2 00:14:35 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 00:14:35 +0100 Subject: Mp3 Gain for Mac In-Reply-To: <187D4596-432A-432C-BD2B-23F950C92B21@gmail.com> References: <2651F3A7-ADD0-4CA3-A82F-9C4783B119CD@btinternet.com> <187D4596-432A-432C-BD2B-23F950C92B21@gmail.com> Message-ID: Mp3Gain FAQ should be on the following link. http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/faq.php If it is any heldp none of the files that I have converted have experienced any distortion or negative effects. They are just louder. Regards David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 7:18 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Mp3 Gain for Mac I can't remember. does it cause it to clip at all? or does it just normalize the files to 0 . Remember anything above 0 will clip. Take care all. On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:41 AM, David Griffith wrote: > I thought I should feed back on Mp3 Gain for Mac. This is a freeware utility which I used a lot whilst I was on the Windows side. It has been redesigned with a Mac style interface and so far I have been very pleased with it. As far as I can tell all the features are accessible with Voiceover. > > MP3 Gain losslessly edits Mp3 files so that the > default playback volume of a file is adjusted. For example I put Audio books onto a Phillips Mp3 player for my sister to listen to. She is hearing impaired and will struggle to hear the the books even at maximum volume on the Phillips. Using Mp3 Gain I increase the inbuilt mp3 setting of perhaps 89 db to 99 db. The result is that she is able to hear the Mp3 files fine on her Phillips. > > There is limited feedback on the progress of conversion but the program does announce when the conversion is completed. A Google search for Mp3Gain for Mac should turn up this utility with no problems. There is a warning about I-Tunes files but on the vanilla mp3 files I have been working with there has been no problem. . David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 2 00:28:13 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 16:28:13 -0700 Subject: Mac 911: The point of iTunes' Skip feature Message-ID: <10E53CF4-F720-4FE9-9A9D-1A3769405F94@gmail.com> a very good article, or tip on the iTunes skip feature. Mac 911: The point of iTunes' Skip feature A reader asks why iTunes includes a Last Skipped feature. I explain. http://bit.ly/nZDCra From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Sep 2 00:49:01 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 19:49:01 -0400 Subject: Mp3 Gain for Mac In-Reply-To: References: <2651F3A7-ADD0-4CA3-A82F-9C4783B119CD@btinternet.com> <187D4596-432A-432C-BD2B-23F950C92B21@gmail.com> Message-ID: <85C89CD1-88FD-4FC9-B9AA-9D42E1DD3448@gmail.com> Hi, I got mac mp3 gain, but I can't figure out where it saves the new files by default. Does it save them somewhere, or do I have to specify? Thanks, Courtney On Sep 1, 2011, at 7:14 PM, David Griffith wrote: > Mp3Gain FAQ should be on the following link. > http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/faq.php > If it is any heldp none of the files that I have converted have experienced > any distortion or negative effects. They are just louder. > > > Regards > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 7:18 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Mp3 Gain for Mac > > I can't remember. does it cause it to clip at all? or does it just normalize > the files to 0 . Remember anything above 0 will clip. > > Take care all. > On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:41 AM, David Griffith wrote: > >> I thought I should feed back on Mp3 Gain for Mac. This is a freeware > utility which I used a lot whilst I was on the Windows side. It has been > redesigned with a Mac style interface and so far I have been very pleased > with it. As far as I can tell all the features are accessible with > Voiceover. >> >> MP3 Gain losslessly edits Mp3 files so that the >> default playback volume of a file is adjusted. For example I put Audio > books onto a Phillips Mp3 player for my sister to listen to. She is hearing > impaired and will struggle to hear the the books even at maximum volume on > the Phillips. Using Mp3 Gain I increase the inbuilt mp3 setting of perhaps > 89 db to 99 db. The result is that she is able to hear the Mp3 files fine on > her Phillips. >> >> There is limited feedback on the progress of conversion but the program > does announce when the conversion is completed. A Google search for Mp3Gain > for Mac should turn up this utility with no problems. There is a warning > about I-Tunes files but on the vanilla mp3 files I have been working with > there has been no problem. . David Griffith >> d.griffith at btinternet.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From desiandcandy at q.com Fri Sep 2 04:53:47 2011 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 20:53:47 -0700 Subject: Signing into skype account on iPod Touch Message-ID: <7A6FADA2-1623-4745-9156-F7CB561C3622@q.com> Hi Everyone, I just got skype from the App store for my iPod Touch and synced it with my iMac. I discovered that the sign in button is dimmed on my iPod, and I'm wondering if there's a way to use all the skype contacts from my iMac account, or do I have to set up a new one for the iPod? Any help with this ASAP would be most appreciated! Desi From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Fri Sep 2 05:16:49 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 00:16:49 -0400 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition Message-ID: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> Hi folks, I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. Tips would be greatly appreciated. I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. Eric Caron From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 2 09:48:19 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 09:48:19 +0100 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> Have you tried WinClone? Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: Hi folks, I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. Tips would be greatly appreciated. I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. Eric Caron <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From mike at busboom.at Fri Sep 2 09:49:18 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:49:18 +0200 Subject: iSync under Lion? In-Reply-To: <362F86B4-742D-4441-B55A-537D3A6F009C@gmail.com> References: <1B45A414-C4D3-43AB-B4F7-F91EBAFE0D08@busboom.at> <362F86B4-742D-4441-B55A-537D3A6F009C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Sarah, I checked under Utilities, as well as in the Applications folder. The only program that might be what I want is Bluetooth File Exchange. Could I have done something wrong when installing Lion? Can the iSynch program be downloaded as a stand-alone? Thanks, Sarah, Mike On 1,Sep,2011, at 10:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > did you check under utilities? If not go to finder and hit cmd shift u to get there quickly. > > Take care and good luck. > On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Since I recently added several new contacts to my Nokia phone, I decided to update my Mac Address Book by using iSync after having paired my Nokia phone to the Mac via Bluetooth. >> >> When I went into my applications folder, I didn't find iSync. Did I do something wrong when installing Lion, or does the Mac under Lion handle synchronization of such things differently now? When I went into my Mac Address Book, I found no menu option which would allow me to synchronize the Mac address book with the one on my Nokia. Bluetooth was enabled, and the devices were paired. >> >> Thanks a million and good night to all! >> >> Mike >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Fri Sep 2 10:55:28 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:55:28 +0200 Subject: iSync under Lion? In-Reply-To: <362F86B4-742D-4441-B55A-537D3A6F009C@gmail.com> References: <1B45A414-C4D3-43AB-B4F7-F91EBAFE0D08@busboom.at> <362F86B4-742D-4441-B55A-537D3A6F009C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <06666BC8-3F77-4BD4-A594-A30616471C54@busboom.at> Hello Sarah and everyone else, I did some checking, and it turns out that iSync was not included in Lion. The solution, or so some of the forums suggest, is to copy iSync from the SL DVD into Lion's Applications folder. Furthermore, they say that the telephone plug-in also needs to be placed in the library. My phone is a Nokia E61. Does this mean that there was once upon a time an E61 plug-in on my Mac? I have Time Machine, so I guess it wouldn't be too difficult to pick a date from when I used SL and grab the requisite files. My only problem, truth be told, is that I am afraid to try this for fear of messing up what I currently have. Is there any problems going back and just grabbing the old iSync, copy it to a thumb drive, restoring my system to the way it is now and just copying the file(s) from the thumb drive? And how can I determine which file was the necessary phone plug-in? My best to all, Mike from On 1,Sep,2011, at 10:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > did you check under utilities? If not go to finder and hit cmd shift u to get there quickly. > > Take care and good luck. > On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Since I recently added several new contacts to my Nokia phone, I decided to update my Mac Address Book by using iSync after having paired my Nokia phone to the Mac via Bluetooth. >> >> When I went into my applications folder, I didn't find iSync. Did I do something wrong when installing Lion, or does the Mac under Lion handle synchronization of such things differently now? When I went into my Mac Address Book, I found no menu option which would allow me to synchronize the Mac address book with the one on my Nokia. Bluetooth was enabled, and the devices were paired. >> >> Thanks a million and good night to all! >> >> Mike >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Sep 2 12:48:54 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 07:48:54 -0400 Subject: any pdf reading apps out there In-Reply-To: <21A9101E-84DB-41D9-BE32-7B3BDF7B6C94@bluebottle.com> References: <21A9101E-84DB-41D9-BE32-7B3BDF7B6C94@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <6011A27E-D7D5-471D-A806-3B6E5ABE48A7@softcon.com> What do you mean by preview isn't reading them right. A bit more information could help folks to explain a work around, or (if absolutely necessary) another app. There are other programs for reading pdf files, but my experience is that rarely are they necessary. From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 2 13:06:55 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:06:55 +0100 Subject: any pdf reading apps out there In-Reply-To: <6011A27E-D7D5-471D-A806-3B6E5ABE48A7@softcon.com> References: <21A9101E-84DB-41D9-BE32-7B3BDF7B6C94@bluebottle.com> <6011A27E-D7D5-471D-A806-3B6E5ABE48A7@softcon.com> Message-ID: <0ACE3696-94D4-4555-9976-C00BD7A109E3@mac-access.net> Hi Travis We sorted this for Krystal. Her PDF was an image. Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 12:48, Travis Siegel wrote: What do you mean by preview isn't reading them right. A bit more information could help folks to explain a work around, or (if absolutely necessary) another app. There are other programs for reading pdf files, but my experience is that rarely are they necessary. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From joncohn at cox.net Fri Sep 2 13:39:09 2011 From: joncohn at cox.net (Jonathan Cohn) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 08:39:09 -0400 Subject: iSync under Lion? Message-ID: <20110902123859.VRDT16474.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> Wow you got iSync to work. I a Ways found it to be more hype thenfunction. Ibought a moto razr and found instrutions to modify the configuration to work with iSync, but then lost bluetooth for some reason. In any case, you should be able to find some sites that describe how to modify isync to work with unsupported phones. Isuggest you search for red razr isync. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Busboom Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:55 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: iSync under Lion? Hello Sarah and everyone else, I did some checking, and it turns out that iSync was not included in Lion. The solution, or so some of the forums suggest, is to copy iSync from the SL DVD into Lion's Applications folder. Furthermore, they say that the telephone plug-in also needs to be placed in the library. My phone is a Nokia E61. Does this mean that there was once upon a time an E61 plug-in on my Mac? I have Time Machine, so I guess it wouldn't be too difficult to pick a date from when I used SL and grab the requisite files. My only problem, truth be told, is that I am afraid to try this for fear of messing up what I currently have. Is there any problems going back and just grabbing the old iSync, copy it to a thumb drive, restoring my system to the way it is now and just copying the file(s) from the thumb drive? And how can I determine which file was the necessary phone plug-in? My best to all, Mike from On 1,Sep,2011, at 10:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > did you check under utilities? If not go to finder and hit cmd shift u to get there quickly. > > Take care and good luck. > On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Since I recently added several new contacts to my Nokia phone, I decided to update my Mac Address Book by using iSync after having paired my Nokia phone to the Mac via Bluetooth. >> >> When I went into my applications folder, I didn't find iSync. Did I do something wrong when installing Lion, or does the Mac under Lion handle synchronization of such things differently now? When I went into my Mac Address Book, I found no menu option which would allow me to synchronize the Mac address book with the one on my Nokia. Bluetooth was enabled, and the devices were paired. >> >> Thanks a million and good night to all! >> >> Mike >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . [The entire original message is not included] From orin8722 at gmail.com Fri Sep 2 15:59:00 2011 From: orin8722 at gmail.com (Orin) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:59:00 -0400 Subject: Help with TextEdit and or pages and fonts Message-ID: <19BF0991-401D-416F-8A7A-271047AB8387@gmail.com> Hey all, At my college they want me to format papers properly obviously. In pages after selecting the text to change the font size to, and the font to Times new Roman, how do I do it. I go into that show fonts dialog with CMD-T, go to times new roman I forgot exactly how I get to it but I select it, and since there's no okay button or anything to confirm it I should be able to press CMD-T to exit out of the fonts dialog and it would be changed? Unless times new roman doesn't look the same in either TextEdit or pages from Word? When I had someone sighted look at it after I did what I described above, they said it didn't change all that much. Of course they keep recommending to me MS Word for Mac, but we al know how accessible that is. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Sep 2 16:37:29 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:37:29 +0100 Subject: Confused about pictures Message-ID: Hello, I need to upload about a dozen pictures to a web site I manage. The pictures are of file type jpeg which the web site upload does not like. It requires pictures of file type jpg or png. First are jpeg and jpg the same? In other words can I just change the file type to jpg and upload the pictures? Assuming that is not possible I have been trying to use Preview on Lion to convert the jpeg files to png files. This has sometimes worked and sometimes not worked and I am rather confused as to what I did which worked. Basically I opened the jpeg file with Preview and then created a duplicate within Preview and then saved that duplicate. that opened the save as menu and allowed me to select png as the file format. However when I press the save button usually nothing happens but sometimes the png file gets saved. What is the correct and reliable way to convert the jpeg file to a png file? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Sep 2 16:40:46 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:40:46 +0100 Subject: something I just discovered in Lion mail Message-ID: Right folks, it's a fairly well-accepted fact at this stage that I'm a bit dense sometimes, but this one takes the biscuit. However, I said I'd share this on-list for two reasons: 1. Others might have missed it; 2. Therapy. In mail-messages containing attachments, there is a "quick-look" button which, when pressed, does exactly what it says on the tin. What I had missed, and only discovered when I was ranting about its absence and a colleague showed it to me, is that if you do VO-left from the HTML area twice, you can open the file without saving it. I'd been using that damn quick-look thing for months and the button I needed was there all the time. I don't like this new approach btw, as it adds an extra step to the process of opening a file, but hey ho such is life and I am merely a consumer, not the all-knowing divinity that is Apple. Anyway hope this helps someone, D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Fri Sep 2 17:15:16 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:15:16 -0400 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Gordon, I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. Is there another option out there? Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. suggestions greatly appreciated! Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Have you tried WinClone? > > Gordon > > > On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. > I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? > Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? > > I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. > > > Tips would be greatly appreciated. > > I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. > > Eric Caron > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 2 18:38:54 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:38:54 -0700 Subject: something I just discovered in Lion mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62ECED4A-4D65-44D3-977F-522B4F46F485@gmail.com> I beleve you can also do cmd y to achieve the same thing, if there is only one attachment. Take care all. On Sep 2, 2011, at 8:40 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Right folks, it's a fairly well-accepted fact at this stage that I'm a bit dense sometimes, but this one takes the biscuit. However, I said I'd share this on-list for two reasons: > 1. Others might have missed it; > 2. Therapy. > > In mail-messages containing attachments, there is a "quick-look" button which, when pressed, does exactly what it says on the tin. What I had missed, and only discovered when I was ranting about its absence and a colleague showed it to me, is that if you do VO-left from the HTML area twice, you can open the file without saving it. I'd been using that damn quick-look thing for months and the button I needed was there all the time. > > I don't like this new approach btw, as it adds an extra step to the process of opening a file, but hey ho such is life and I am merely a consumer, not the all-knowing divinity that is Apple. > > Anyway hope this helps someone, > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Sep 2 18:40:37 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 18:40:37 +0100 Subject: something I just discovered in Lion mail In-Reply-To: <62ECED4A-4D65-44D3-977F-522B4F46F485@gmail.com> References: <62ECED4A-4D65-44D3-977F-522B4F46F485@gmail.com> Message-ID: <317BFFAD-4171-42C7-91B1-9D2E7C487C67@computing.dcu.ie> You've hit the nub though Sarah, if there are more than one attachment how does one handle it? Mail under SL was (for me anyway) far more intuitive. On 2 Sep 2011, at 18:38, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I beleve you can also do cmd y to achieve the same thing, if there is only one attachment. > > Take care all. > On Sep 2, 2011, at 8:40 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Right folks, it's a fairly well-accepted fact at this stage that I'm a bit dense sometimes, but this one takes the biscuit. However, I said I'd share this on-list for two reasons: >> 1. Others might have missed it; >> 2. Therapy. >> >> In mail-messages containing attachments, there is a "quick-look" button which, when pressed, does exactly what it says on the tin. What I had missed, and only discovered when I was ranting about its absence and a colleague showed it to me, is that if you do VO-left from the HTML area twice, you can open the file without saving it. I'd been using that damn quick-look thing for months and the button I needed was there all the time. >> >> I don't like this new approach btw, as it adds an extra step to the process of opening a file, but hey ho such is life and I am merely a consumer, not the all-knowing divinity that is Apple. >> >> Anyway hope this helps someone, >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Sep 2 18:44:21 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 19:44:21 +0200 Subject: Help with TextEdit and or pages and fonts In-Reply-To: <19BF0991-401D-416F-8A7A-271047AB8387@gmail.com> References: <19BF0991-401D-416F-8A7A-271047AB8387@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Orin, When you want to change a font, you need to highlight the text concerned. If you want to change the whole document, do Cmd-A (select all) then change the font. You can check that it's worked by pressing VO-t. Cheers, Anne On 2 Sep 2011, at 16:59, Orin wrote: > Hey all, > > At my college they want me to format papers properly obviously. In pages after selecting the text to change the font size to, and the font to Times new Roman, how do I do it. I go into that show fonts dialog with CMD-T, go to times new roman I forgot exactly how I get to it but I select it, and since there's no okay button or anything to confirm it I should be able to press CMD-T to exit out of the fonts dialog and it would be changed? > Unless times new roman doesn't look the same in either TextEdit or pages from Word? When I had someone sighted look at it after I did what I described above, they said it didn't change all that much. > > Of course they keep recommending to me MS Word for Mac, but we al know how accessible that is. > > > Orin > orin8722 at gmail.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks > Skype: orin1112 > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 2 18:49:25 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:49:25 -0700 Subject: Help with TextEdit and or pages and fonts In-Reply-To: References: <19BF0991-401D-416F-8A7A-271047AB8387@gmail.com> Message-ID: <83E3D213-6632-456D-B6F3-7A7052863DE5@gmail.com> Not realize it was VO space t. I guess I need to read the manual again. LOL. Thanks. On Sep 2, 2011, at 10:44, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Orin, > > When you want to change a font, you need to highlight the text concerned. If you want to change the whole document, do Cmd-A (select all) then change the font. You can check that it's worked by pressing VO-t. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 2 Sep 2011, at 16:59, Orin wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> At my college they want me to format papers properly obviously. In pages after selecting the text to change the font size to, and the font to Times new Roman, how do I do it. I go into that show fonts dialog with CMD-T, go to times new roman I forgot exactly how I get to it but I select it, and since there's no okay button or anything to confirm it I should be able to press CMD-T to exit out of the fonts dialog and it would be changed? >> Unless times new roman doesn't look the same in either TextEdit or pages from Word? When I had someone sighted look at it after I did what I described above, they said it didn't change all that much. >> >> Of course they keep recommending to me MS Word for Mac, but we al know how accessible that is. >> >> >> Orin >> orin8722 at gmail.com >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks >> Skype: orin1112 >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Fri Sep 2 19:40:27 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 19:40:27 +0100 Subject: Mp3 Gain for Mac In-Reply-To: <85C89CD1-88FD-4FC9-B9AA-9D42E1DD3448@gmail.com> References: <2651F3A7-ADD0-4CA3-A82F-9C4783B119CD@btinternet.com><187D4596-432A-432C-BD2B-23F950C92B21@gmail.com> <85C89CD1-88FD-4FC9-B9AA-9D42E1DD3448@gmail.com> Message-ID: <56AD3859C64A4E3ABF09EADD038F7E95@6ffd52c138504d6> The way I was using it was to locate the files I wanted to amplify and then the application overwrites these with the amplified version after the processing is completed. The application web pages warns you to work with copies of mp3 files rather than original copies. Regards David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran Sent: Friday, 02 September 2011 00:49 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Mp3 Gain for Mac Hi, I got mac mp3 gain, but I can't figure out where it saves the new files by default. Does it save them somewhere, or do I have to specify? Thanks, Courtney On Sep 1, 2011, at 7:14 PM, David Griffith wrote: > Mp3Gain FAQ should be on the following link. > http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/faq.php > If it is any heldp none of the files that I have converted have experienced > any distortion or negative effects. They are just louder. > > > Regards > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 7:18 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Mp3 Gain for Mac > > I can't remember. does it cause it to clip at all? or does it just normalize > the files to 0 . Remember anything above 0 will clip. > > Take care all. > On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:41 AM, David Griffith wrote: > >> I thought I should feed back on Mp3 Gain for Mac. This is a freeware > utility which I used a lot whilst I was on the Windows side. It has been > redesigned with a Mac style interface and so far I have been very pleased > with it. As far as I can tell all the features are accessible with > Voiceover. >> >> MP3 Gain losslessly edits Mp3 files so that the >> default playback volume of a file is adjusted. For example I put Audio > books onto a Phillips Mp3 player for my sister to listen to. She is hearing > impaired and will struggle to hear the the books even at maximum volume on > the Phillips. Using Mp3 Gain I increase the inbuilt mp3 setting of perhaps > 89 db to 99 db. The result is that she is able to hear the Mp3 files fine on > her Phillips. >> >> There is limited feedback on the progress of conversion but the program > does announce when the conversion is completed. A Google search for Mp3Gain > for Mac should turn up this utility with no problems. There is a warning > about I-Tunes files but on the vanilla mp3 files I have been working with > there has been no problem. . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6430 (20110902) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6430 (20110902) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6430 (20110902) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Sep 2 19:58:58 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 19:58:58 +0100 Subject: Confused about pictures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5B11306A-CDB4-4573-A2A4-80ECEA5C29B9@mac-access.net> Hello Paul No! Just changing the extension won't work as the format is very different. I know that because I tried it with very disastrous results. Lynne On 2 Sep 2011, at 16:37, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello, I need to upload about a dozen pictures to a web site I manage. The pictures are of file type jpeg which the web site upload does not like. It requires pictures of file type jpg or png. First are jpeg and jpg the same? In other words can I just change the file type to jpg and upload the pictures? Assuming that is not possible I have been trying to use Preview on Lion to convert the jpeg files to png files. This has sometimes worked and sometimes not worked and I am rather confused as to what I did which worked. Basically I opened the jpeg file with Preview and then created a duplicate within Preview and then saved that duplicate. that opened the save as menu and allowed me to select png as the file format. However when I press the save button usually nothing happens but sometimes the png file gets saved. What is the correct and reliable way to convert the jpeg file to a png file? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 2 20:03:22 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:03:22 +0100 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7B35120B-6E62-40BD-9B2E-02699DC63624@mac-access.net> Hi Eric We neither of us knew about that discontinuation of the software, sorry about that. Actually this is something that you should be able to get over by doing a sector-level backup of the hard drive. I'm sure there are Mac utilities out there which do that. I will investigate. Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 17:15, Eric Caron wrote: Gordon, I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. Is there another option out there? Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. suggestions greatly appreciated! Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Have you tried WinClone? > > Gordon > > > On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. > I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? > Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? > > I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. > > > Tips would be greatly appreciated. > > I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. > > Eric Caron > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Fri Sep 2 20:09:43 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:09:43 -0400 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: <7B35120B-6E62-40BD-9B2E-02699DC63624@mac-access.net> References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> <7B35120B-6E62-40BD-9B2E-02699DC63624@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8D22A044-2479-4B20-ACCD-405AFF75558E@Mac-Access.net> Hi Gordon and others, Perhaps I need to use VM Fusion? I don't use windows much so bootcamp was good enough for me. also I only have 4 GB ram so I did not want to share resources. If I were to instal VM Fusion would windows then back up with CCC as part of my Macintosh HD? Also, Can I just not run the VM when I want my mac to use all resources including the 4 GB ram? I love the security of having a bootable backup that has everything there thee way it was when things were working well. Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Eric > > We neither of us knew about that discontinuation of the software, sorry about that. Actually this is something that you should be able to get over by doing a sector-level backup of the hard drive. I'm sure there are Mac utilities out there which do that. I will investigate. > > Gordon > > On 2 Sep 2011, at 17:15, Eric Caron wrote: > > Gordon, > > I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. > > Is there another option out there? > > Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. > > suggestions greatly appreciated! > > Eric Caron > On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Have you tried WinClone? >> >> Gordon >> >> >> On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. >> I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? >> Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? >> >> I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. >> >> >> Tips would be greatly appreciated. >> >> I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. >> >> Eric Caron >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 2 20:13:42 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:13:42 +0100 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: <8D22A044-2479-4B20-ACCD-405AFF75558E@Mac-Access.net> References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> <7B35120B-6E62-40BD-9B2E-02699DC63624@mac-access.net> <8D22A044-2479-4B20-ACCD-405AFF75558E@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Eric Fusion isn't a backup utility, so you'd be no better off. Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:09, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Gordon and others, Perhaps I need to use VM Fusion? I don't use windows much so bootcamp was good enough for me. also I only have 4 GB ram so I did not want to share resources. If I were to instal VM Fusion would windows then back up with CCC as part of my Macintosh HD? Also, Can I just not run the VM when I want my mac to use all resources including the 4 GB ram? I love the security of having a bootable backup that has everything there thee way it was when things were working well. Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Eric > > We neither of us knew about that discontinuation of the software, sorry about that. Actually this is something that you should be able to get over by doing a sector-level backup of the hard drive. I'm sure there are Mac utilities out there which do that. I will investigate. > > Gordon > > On 2 Sep 2011, at 17:15, Eric Caron wrote: > > Gordon, > > I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. > > Is there another option out there? > > Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. > > suggestions greatly appreciated! > > Eric Caron > On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Have you tried WinClone? >> >> Gordon >> >> >> On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. >> I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? >> Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? >> >> I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. >> >> >> Tips would be greatly appreciated. >> >> I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. >> >> Eric Caron >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From zkline at speedpost.net Fri Sep 2 20:21:54 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:21:54 -0700 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: <8D22A044-2479-4B20-ACCD-405AFF75558E@Mac-Access.net> References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> <7B35120B-6E62-40BD-9B2E-02699DC63624@mac-access.net> <8D22A044-2479-4B20-ACCD-405AFF75558E@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <66E3A185-08FD-4A40-8728-7CFBCEDA6544@speedpost.net> Hi Eric, Your assumption about being able to back up your FUsion VM with CCC is correct. When you don't want your Mac's resources being used by Windows, simply stop the VM. I use a Fusion VM of Windows 7 with 2 GB of ram and it works quite nicely. There's no noticeable slowdown on the Mac side of things. Yours, Zack. On Sep 2, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Gordon and others, > > Perhaps I need to use VM Fusion? I don't use windows much so bootcamp was good enough for me. also I only have 4 GB ram so I did not want to share resources. If I were to instal VM Fusion would windows then back up with CCC as part of my Macintosh HD? Also, Can I just not run the VM when I want my mac to use all resources including the 4 GB ram? > I love the security of having a bootable backup that has everything there thee way it was when things were working well. > > Eric Caron > > On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi Eric >> >> We neither of us knew about that discontinuation of the software, sorry about that. Actually this is something that you should be able to get over by doing a sector-level backup of the hard drive. I'm sure there are Mac utilities out there which do that. I will investigate. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 2 Sep 2011, at 17:15, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Gordon, >> >> I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. >> >> Is there another option out there? >> >> Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. >> >> suggestions greatly appreciated! >> >> Eric Caron >> On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> Have you tried WinClone? >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> >>> On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. >>> I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? >>> Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? >>> >>> I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. >>> >>> >>> Tips would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Fri Sep 2 20:23:50 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:23:50 -0400 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> <7B35120B-6E62-40BD-9B2E-02699DC63624@mac-access.net> <8D22A044-2479-4B20-ACCD-405AFF75558E@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: I was hoping that once VM Fusion was running with Windows CCC would consider it part of the Macintosh HD and just back up the whole thing. I could then ultimately ditch bootcamp. It sounds like that is not the case. So other solutions would be greatly appreciated! Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Eric > > Fusion isn't a backup utility, so you'd be no better off. > > Gordon > > On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:09, Eric Caron wrote: > > Hi Gordon and others, > > Perhaps I need to use VM Fusion? I don't use windows much so bootcamp was good enough for me. also I only have 4 GB ram so I did not want to share resources. If I were to instal VM Fusion would windows then back up with CCC as part of my Macintosh HD? Also, Can I just not run the VM when I want my mac to use all resources including the 4 GB ram? > I love the security of having a bootable backup that has everything there thee way it was when things were working well. > > Eric Caron > > On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi Eric >> >> We neither of us knew about that discontinuation of the software, sorry about that. Actually this is something that you should be able to get over by doing a sector-level backup of the hard drive. I'm sure there are Mac utilities out there which do that. I will investigate. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 2 Sep 2011, at 17:15, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Gordon, >> >> I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. >> >> Is there another option out there? >> >> Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. >> >> suggestions greatly appreciated! >> >> Eric Caron >> On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> Have you tried WinClone? >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> >>> On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. >>> I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? >>> Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? >>> >>> I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. >>> >>> >>> Tips would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Sep 2 20:46:57 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:46:57 -0300 Subject: Cocktale Upgrade Question. Message-ID: <1933BC75C9A04723BC1E3FF11AE7F7F3@MainComputer> Hi Folks: I performed an installation of Cocktale for Lion with my Snow Lepoard Registration information but was informed that my information wasn't valid for this version. Is this a free upgrade? Does one have to install the Snow Lepoard version before the Lion version? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6431 (20110902) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Sep 2 21:03:17 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 17:03:17 -0300 Subject: Cocktale Upgrade Question. In-Reply-To: <1933BC75C9A04723BC1E3FF11AE7F7F3@MainComputer> References: <1933BC75C9A04723BC1E3FF11AE7F7F3@MainComputer> Message-ID: <417E7C0F853F47618320C98D14A88281@MainComputer> Hi Folks: Disregard my previous question: I've resolved the problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Noseworthy" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 4:46 PM Subject: Cocktale Upgrade Question. > Hi Folks: > > I performed an installation of Cocktale for Lion with my Snow Lepoard > Registration information but was informed that my information wasn't valid > for this version. Is this a free upgrade? Does one have to install the > Snow Lepoard version before the Lion version? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, > in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6431 (20110902) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6431 (20110902) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6431 (20110902) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From zkline at speedpost.net Fri Sep 2 21:08:27 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 13:08:27 -0700 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> <7B35120B-6E62-40BD-9B2E-02699DC63624@mac-access.net> <8D22A044-2479-4B20-ACCD-405AFF75558E@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <7696EE54-3983-4F6B-A234-DB22DC6A40C8@speedpost.net> Hi Eric, THe question is whether or not you're running a VM with a virtualized hard disk. If you do that, then yes, the VM is just one more file for CCC to back up on your Macintosh HD. If not, and you use the Bootcamp partition with Fusion, I'm not sure what happens, as I've never needed that setup myself. Hope this explanation clears things up a bit. Best, Zack. On Sep 2, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > I was hoping that once VM Fusion was running with Windows CCC would consider it part of the Macintosh HD and just back up the whole thing. I could then ultimately ditch bootcamp. It sounds like that is not the case. > > So other solutions would be greatly appreciated! > > Eric Caron > On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Eric >> >> Fusion isn't a backup utility, so you'd be no better off. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:09, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Hi Gordon and others, >> >> Perhaps I need to use VM Fusion? I don't use windows much so bootcamp was good enough for me. also I only have 4 GB ram so I did not want to share resources. If I were to instal VM Fusion would windows then back up with CCC as part of my Macintosh HD? Also, Can I just not run the VM when I want my mac to use all resources including the 4 GB ram? >> I love the security of having a bootable backup that has everything there thee way it was when things were working well. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> Hi Eric >>> >>> We neither of us knew about that discontinuation of the software, sorry about that. Actually this is something that you should be able to get over by doing a sector-level backup of the hard drive. I'm sure there are Mac utilities out there which do that. I will investigate. >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> On 2 Sep 2011, at 17:15, Eric Caron wrote: >>> >>> Gordon, >>> >>> I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. >>> >>> Is there another option out there? >>> >>> Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. >>> >>> suggestions greatly appreciated! >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Have you tried WinClone? >>>> >>>> Gordon >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. >>>> I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? >>>> Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? >>>> >>>> I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tips would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. >>>> >>>> Eric Caron >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Sep 2 22:16:44 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:16:44 +0100 Subject: How can I recover from hang/loop in Preview? Message-ID: <3D635328-65B0-42F4-8C99-D6298814AB0C@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I am running Mac OS 10.7.1 and am stuck in a hang/loop in Preview. Whenever I try to exit Preview or close a Preview window I have a dialogue asking if I want to save the changes to file x. Whatever I choose (don't save, cancel, save) I cannot get out of this loop. I have to force quit Preview. If I select the window chooser wile Preview is the active window I see some 10 windows related to different unsaved Preview documents. Whichever one I choose I still cannot exit Preview. If I look at the Preview Windows menu I see that two windows are checked for display. That is probably a bug and may be the cause of my problems. If I try to look at the Preview preferences I go back to the save dialogue and again have to force quit Preview. SO how can I recover from this situation and make Preview usable again? I tried deleting all the Preview preferences in the LIbrary folder but that did not help. I have time machine and SuperDuper! backups but I don't want to reset my entire system to some earlier time before the above problem arose. I just want to reset Preview to an earlier time. I would appreciate any suggestions as to what I should do. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From moriond at mac.com Fri Sep 2 22:54:05 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 11:54:05 -1000 Subject: How can I recover from hang/loop in Preview? In-Reply-To: <3D635328-65B0-42F4-8C99-D6298814AB0C@hopewell.org.uk> References: <3D635328-65B0-42F4-8C99-D6298814AB0C@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Paul, This one is a puzzler, but it sounds as though you might be using Preview to make changes in a graphics file using the Tools menu. Alternatively, could you be opening a file that is corrupted, or not really a supported file type? If the file is on an external volume that is not writable, make sure that you leave any windows that point there. (For example, on an externally mounted hard drive, I sometimes navigate down to a directory in a Terminal window.) What happens if you force quit the app, and then go to the affected file(s) in question and select it to open by default in some other app, like Skim? Can you check with the Activity Monitor that Preview is not running at all after you force quit? I assume that you tried restarting your machine and also clearing out caches? I've found that in some instances I can fix problems by booting into Safe Mode, which moves problem caches, including font caches that can be a problem for Preview, into the Trash. I believe that Martin McCormick has used this, and also reported that he was able to log into the machine via SSH past a certain point. The problem with safe mode boot is that audio is disabled, so you can't run VoiceOver. However, I've been able to fix some problems by just booting into Safe Mode, and then restarting my machine after I've done this, without having to actually access the system under Safe Mode. You hold down the Shift key when the system boots up, and the boot process takes longer to do than usual, because a directory check of the startup volume is forced as part of the process. Here's the Apple Document about booting Mac OS X into Safe Mode: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1455 A google check indicates that Safe Mode should still work under Lion. Sorry not to have more thoughts about this. Cheers, Esther On Sep 2, 2011, at 11:16, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I am running Mac OS 10.7.1 and am stuck in a hang/loop in Preview. > > Whenever I try to exit Preview or close a Preview window I have a dialogue asking if I want to save the changes to file x. Whatever I choose (don't save, cancel, save) I cannot get out of this loop. I have to force quit Preview. > > If I select the window chooser wile Preview is the active window I see some 10 windows related to different unsaved Preview documents. Whichever one I choose I still cannot exit Preview. > > If I look at the Preview Windows menu I see that two windows are checked for display. That is probably a bug and may be the cause of my problems. If I try to look at the Preview preferences I go back to the save dialogue and again have to force quit Preview. > > SO how can I recover from this situation and make Preview usable again? I tried deleting all the Preview preferences in the LIbrary folder but that did not help. I have time machine and SuperDuper! backups but I don't want to reset my entire system to some earlier time before the above problem arose. I just want to reset Preview to an earlier time. > > I would appreciate any suggestions as to what I should do. > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Sep 2 23:17:45 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 23:17:45 +0100 Subject: How can I recover from hang/loop in Preview? In-Reply-To: References: <3D635328-65B0-42F4-8C99-D6298814AB0C@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Esther, Many thanks for your reply. I was using Preview to convert a JPEG file to a PNG file. I created a duplicate of the JPEG file and then did a save of that duplicate after setting the file type to PNG. All this is on my normal Lion hard disk. The process had worked for several files but I had not been very good at deleting old files so quite a few were still left around. The files which won't save are the PNG versions of two files which do not exist anywhere other than as working files in Preview. I have indeed tried re-booting and clearing caches which did allow me to reduce my 10 open files to just 2 open files so that is progress. It is getting late now but I will try your idea of rebooting in safe mode. I do have Onyx and Cocktail - would they help at all? I am away tomorrow so more work on this will have to wait until Sunday. I will keep you posted on how it goes.... Many thanks. Paul Hopewell On 2 Sep 2011, at 22:54, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul, > > This one is a puzzler, but it sounds as though you might be using Preview to make changes in a graphics file using the Tools menu. Alternatively, could you be opening a file that is corrupted, or not really a supported file type? If the file is on an external volume that is not writable, make sure that you leave any windows that point there. (For example, on an externally mounted hard drive, I sometimes navigate down to a directory in a Terminal window.) > > What happens if you force quit the app, and then go to the affected file(s) in question and select it to open by default in some other app, like Skim? Can you check with the Activity Monitor that Preview is not running at all after you force quit? > > I assume that you tried restarting your machine and also clearing out caches? I've found that in some instances I can fix problems by booting into Safe Mode, which moves problem caches, including font caches that can be a problem for Preview, into the Trash. I believe that Martin McCormick has used this, and also reported that he was able to log into the machine via SSH past a certain point. > > The problem with safe mode boot is that audio is disabled, so you can't run VoiceOver. However, I've been able to fix some problems by just booting into Safe Mode, and then restarting my machine after I've done this, without having to actually access the system under Safe Mode. You hold down the Shift key when the system boots up, and the boot process takes longer to do than usual, because a directory check of the startup volume is forced as part of the process. > > Here's the Apple Document about booting Mac OS X into Safe Mode: > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1455 > > A google check indicates that Safe Mode should still work under Lion. > Sorry not to have more thoughts about this. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Sep 2, 2011, at 11:16, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am running Mac OS 10.7.1 and am stuck in a hang/loop in Preview. >> >> Whenever I try to exit Preview or close a Preview window I have a dialogue asking if I want to save the changes to file x. Whatever I choose (don't save, cancel, save) I cannot get out of this loop. I have to force quit Preview. >> >> If I select the window chooser wile Preview is the active window I see some 10 windows related to different unsaved Preview documents. Whichever one I choose I still cannot exit Preview. >> >> If I look at the Preview Windows menu I see that two windows are checked for display. That is probably a bug and may be the cause of my problems. If I try to look at the Preview preferences I go back to the save dialogue and again have to force quit Preview. >> >> SO how can I recover from this situation and make Preview usable again? I tried deleting all the Preview preferences in the LIbrary folder but that did not help. I have time machine and SuperDuper! backups but I don't want to reset my entire system to some earlier time before the above problem arose. I just want to reset Preview to an earlier time. >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions as to what I should do. >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Fri Sep 2 23:22:02 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 08:22:02 +1000 Subject: any pdf reading apps out there In-Reply-To: <6011A27E-D7D5-471D-A806-3B6E5ABE48A7@softcon.com> References: <21A9101E-84DB-41D9-BE32-7B3BDF7B6C94@bluebottle.com> <6011A27E-D7D5-471D-A806-3B6E5ABE48A7@softcon.com> Message-ID: its ok problem has been solved they were photoes in a pdf file thanks On 02/09/2011, at 9:48 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > What do you mean by preview isn't reading them right. > A bit more information could help folks to explain a work around, or (if absolutely necessary) another app. There are other programs for reading pdf files, but my experience is that rarely are they necessary. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From joncohn at cox.net Fri Sep 2 23:25:19 2011 From: joncohn at cox.net (Jon Cohn) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 18:25:19 -0400 Subject: @Quick access to web pages In-Reply-To: <9B600A17-FE31-4DD8-9D0A-0CBC2C008F43@mac.com> References: <9B600A17-FE31-4DD8-9D0A-0CBC2C008F43@mac.com> Message-ID: Just so folks know, for sighted folks there is an icon next to the text of the URL in Safari. If one drags this icon to the desktop it will create a URL quick launch for that URL> I was able with a bit of jiggling to do this on Snow Leopard, but I would expect it is probably easier with Lion since there is VO access to drag and drop. Best wishes, Jonathan On Aug 30, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Yes, there are two file formats that act in the way you describe: when you open them from a location in Finder, such as from on your Desktop or when placed in the Dock, they will cause Safari to open in that web page. For the past nearly four years I've been using a GUI-based application called Weblocmaker to create such files, which have extension names of ".webloc" or ".url". The name "webloc" refers to "web location". The problem is, the Weblocmaker application runs under Rosetta for Intel Macs, and although this support has been present for Mac OS X up through Snow Leopard, it has been discontinued for Lion. > > The .webloc file is quite general, and will open in whatever default browser you use, which need not be Safari. The .url file is the version that works with Windows, and recent versions of Safari will also open at this location. But it will not work generally with other browsers. > > I haven't successfully scripted this yet, but you can try this simple alternative. In Terminal, using an editor like vim or pico, create a file with three lines: > [InternetShortcut] > URL=http://www.apple.com/ > > The third line only has a carriage return -- you type two lines, but press "return" at the end of the second line's URL, so your cursor is on the third line. Then save the file with a name that has a ".url" extension. In the above case, where I wrote "URL=http://www.apple.com", you might use a name like "apple.url" (without the quotations). > > Now try opening the file with Command+Down Arrow or Command+O. It should open in Safari at the URL you gave. You may also be able to create the file with a Windows editor. TextEdit won't work unless you change the line end characters to carriage return. > > HTH. I'll email you sample .webloc and .url files off list. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Aug 30, 2011, at 00:21, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> Is there an accessible way to save links to frequently accessed web pages, such as the weather forecast, in the dock or on the desktop so that they can be quickly accessed? >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From joncohn at cox.net Fri Sep 2 23:28:35 2011 From: joncohn at cox.net (Jon Cohn) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 18:28:35 -0400 Subject: How can I recover from hang/loop in Preview? In-Reply-To: References: <3D635328-65B0-42F4-8C99-D6298814AB0C@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: There is a program called graphics converter that might help in your situation. Also, I believe that Quicktime is probably the underlying framework that preview uses for conversions. JOnathan On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Esther, > Many thanks for your reply. > > I was using Preview to convert a JPEG file to a PNG file. I created a duplicate of the JPEG file and then did a save of that duplicate after setting the file type to PNG. All this is on my normal Lion hard disk. The process had worked for several files but I had not been very good at deleting old files so quite a few were still left around. The files which won't save are the PNG versions of two files which do not exist anywhere other than as working files in Preview. > > I have indeed tried re-booting and clearing caches which did allow me to reduce my 10 open files to just 2 open files so that is progress. > > It is getting late now but I will try your idea of rebooting in safe mode. > > I do have Onyx and Cocktail - would they help at all? > > I am away tomorrow so more work on this will have to wait until Sunday. I will keep you posted on how it goes.... > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > On 2 Sep 2011, at 22:54, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> This one is a puzzler, but it sounds as though you might be using Preview to make changes in a graphics file using the Tools menu. Alternatively, could you be opening a file that is corrupted, or not really a supported file type? If the file is on an external volume that is not writable, make sure that you leave any windows that point there. (For example, on an externally mounted hard drive, I sometimes navigate down to a directory in a Terminal window.) >> >> What happens if you force quit the app, and then go to the affected file(s) in question and select it to open by default in some other app, like Skim? Can you check with the Activity Monitor that Preview is not running at all after you force quit? >> >> I assume that you tried restarting your machine and also clearing out caches? I've found that in some instances I can fix problems by booting into Safe Mode, which moves problem caches, including font caches that can be a problem for Preview, into the Trash. I believe that Martin McCormick has used this, and also reported that he was able to log into the machine via SSH past a certain point. >> >> The problem with safe mode boot is that audio is disabled, so you can't run VoiceOver. However, I've been able to fix some problems by just booting into Safe Mode, and then restarting my machine after I've done this, without having to actually access the system under Safe Mode. You hold down the Shift key when the system boots up, and the boot process takes longer to do than usual, because a directory check of the startup volume is forced as part of the process. >> >> Here's the Apple Document about booting Mac OS X into Safe Mode: >> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1455 >> >> A google check indicates that Safe Mode should still work under Lion. >> Sorry not to have more thoughts about this. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Sep 2, 2011, at 11:16, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I am running Mac OS 10.7.1 and am stuck in a hang/loop in Preview. >>> >>> Whenever I try to exit Preview or close a Preview window I have a dialogue asking if I want to save the changes to file x. Whatever I choose (don't save, cancel, save) I cannot get out of this loop. I have to force quit Preview. >>> >>> If I select the window chooser wile Preview is the active window I see some 10 windows related to different unsaved Preview documents. Whichever one I choose I still cannot exit Preview. >>> >>> If I look at the Preview Windows menu I see that two windows are checked for display. That is probably a bug and may be the cause of my problems. If I try to look at the Preview preferences I go back to the save dialogue and again have to force quit Preview. >>> >>> SO how can I recover from this situation and make Preview usable again? I tried deleting all the Preview preferences in the LIbrary folder but that did not help. I have time machine and SuperDuper! backups but I don't want to reset my entire system to some earlier time before the above problem arose. I just want to reset Preview to an earlier time. >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions as to what I should do. >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Sep 2 23:50:56 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 12:50:56 -1000 Subject: How can I recover from hang/loop in Preview? In-Reply-To: References: <3D635328-65B0-42F4-8C99-D6298814AB0C@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <5326BE86-4E35-4562-95B6-D4F08CFAAB04@mac.com> Hi Paul and Jon, Preview is supposed to do a number of image conversions. You open a file in one supported format, then you use the "Save as" option (Command-Shift-S) from the File menu. Under the dialog menu you can change the pop up menu button to the new format that you want. The problem is that it is not really a full up graphics handler, so I imagine that if you tried to put it through multiple conversions and lost track of the file selections you could hang Preview if you reran a conversion. The better way to run through multiple files would probably be to use an Automator workflow, because then you only need to select the files to be converted in FInder and run the Automator action. I just checked, and there is a "Change Type of Images" action in Automator. Will write more later. The other program that I have used is ImageMagick (from linux command line with a Terminal command like "convert file.jpg file.png"). There is a version for the Mac. I'll look up the status and report back. Cheers, Esther On Sep 2, 2011, at 12:28, Jon Cohn wrote: > There is a program called graphics converter that might help in your situation. Also, I believe that Quicktime is probably the underlying framework that preview uses for conversions. > > JOnathan > > On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hi Esther, >> Many thanks for your reply. >> >> I was using Preview to convert a JPEG file to a PNG file. I created a duplicate of the JPEG file and then did a save of that duplicate after setting the file type to PNG. All this is on my normal Lion hard disk. The process had worked for several files but I had not been very good at deleting old files so quite a few were still left around. The files which won't save are the PNG versions of two files which do not exist anywhere other than as working files in Preview. >> >> I have indeed tried re-booting and clearing caches which did allow me to reduce my 10 open files to just 2 open files so that is progress. >> >> It is getting late now but I will try your idea of rebooting in safe mode. >> >> I do have Onyx and Cocktail - would they help at all? >> >> I am away tomorrow so more work on this will have to wait until Sunday. I will keep you posted on how it goes.... >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> On 2 Sep 2011, at 22:54, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> This one is a puzzler, but it sounds as though you might be using Preview to make changes in a graphics file using the Tools menu. Alternatively, could you be opening a file that is corrupted, or not really a supported file type? If the file is on an external volume that is not writable, make sure that you leave any windows that point there. (For example, on an externally mounted hard drive, I sometimes navigate down to a directory in a Terminal window.) >>> >>> What happens if you force quit the app, and then go to the affected file(s) in question and select it to open by default in some other app, like Skim? Can you check with the Activity Monitor that Preview is not running at all after you force quit? >>> >>> I assume that you tried restarting your machine and also clearing out caches? I've found that in some instances I can fix problems by booting into Safe Mode, which moves problem caches, including font caches that can be a problem for Preview, into the Trash. I believe that Martin McCormick has used this, and also reported that he was able to log into the machine via SSH past a certain point. >>> >>> The problem with safe mode boot is that audio is disabled, so you can't run VoiceOver. However, I've been able to fix some problems by just booting into Safe Mode, and then restarting my machine after I've done this, without having to actually access the system under Safe Mode. You hold down the Shift key when the system boots up, and the boot process takes longer to do than usual, because a directory check of the startup volume is forced as part of the process. >>> >>> Here's the Apple Document about booting Mac OS X into Safe Mode: >>> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1455 >>> >>> A google check indicates that Safe Mode should still work under Lion. >>> Sorry not to have more thoughts about this. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2011, at 11:16, Paul Hopewell wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> I am running Mac OS 10.7.1 and am stuck in a hang/loop in Preview. >>>> >>>> Whenever I try to exit Preview or close a Preview window I have a dialogue asking if I want to save the changes to file x. Whatever I choose (don't save, cancel, save) I cannot get out of this loop. I have to force quit Preview. >>>> >>>> If I select the window chooser wile Preview is the active window I see some 10 windows related to different unsaved Preview documents. Whichever one I choose I still cannot exit Preview. >>>> >>>> If I look at the Preview Windows menu I see that two windows are checked for display. That is probably a bug and may be the cause of my problems. If I try to look at the Preview preferences I go back to the save dialogue and again have to force quit Preview. >>>> >>>> SO how can I recover from this situation and make Preview usable again? I tried deleting all the Preview preferences in the LIbrary folder but that did not help. I have time machine and SuperDuper! backups but I don't want to reset my entire system to some earlier time before the above problem arose. I just want to reset Preview to an earlier time. >>>> >>>> I would appreciate any suggestions as to what I should do. >>>> >>>> Many thanks. >>>> >>>> Paul Hopewell >>> From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 05:49:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:49:15 -0700 Subject: @Quick access to web pages In-Reply-To: References: <9B600A17-FE31-4DD8-9D0A-0CBC2C008F43@mac.com> Message-ID: <886E6676-9E1D-429D-967E-64D3B0E8943A@gmail.com> Hmm I never found that icon in lion. Where would it be. In the tool bar? I really don't know. On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: > Just so folks know, for sighted folks there is an icon next to the text of the URL in Safari. If one drags this icon to the desktop it will create a URL quick launch for that URL> > > I was able with a bit of jiggling to do this on Snow Leopard, but I would expect it is probably easier with Lion since there is VO access to drag and drop. > > > Best wishes, > > Jonathan > On Aug 30, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> Yes, there are two file formats that act in the way you describe: when you open them from a location in Finder, such as from on your Desktop or when placed in the Dock, they will cause Safari to open in that web page. For the past nearly four years I've been using a GUI-based application called Weblocmaker to create such files, which have extension names of ".webloc" or ".url". The name "webloc" refers to "web location". The problem is, the Weblocmaker application runs under Rosetta for Intel Macs, and although this support has been present for Mac OS X up through Snow Leopard, it has been discontinued for Lion. >> >> The .webloc file is quite general, and will open in whatever default browser you use, which need not be Safari. The .url file is the version that works with Windows, and recent versions of Safari will also open at this location. But it will not work generally with other browsers. >> >> I haven't successfully scripted this yet, but you can try this simple alternative. In Terminal, using an editor like vim or pico, create a file with three lines: >> [InternetShortcut] >> URL=http://www.apple.com/ >> >> The third line only has a carriage return -- you type two lines, but press "return" at the end of the second line's URL, so your cursor is on the third line. Then save the file with a name that has a ".url" extension. In the above case, where I wrote "URL=http://www.apple.com", you might use a name like "apple.url" (without the quotations). >> >> Now try opening the file with Command+Down Arrow or Command+O. It should open in Safari at the URL you gave. You may also be able to create the file with a Windows editor. TextEdit won't work unless you change the line end characters to carriage return. >> >> HTH. I'll email you sample .webloc and .url files off list. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> On Aug 30, 2011, at 00:21, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> Is there an accessible way to save links to frequently accessed web pages, such as the weather forecast, in the dock or on the desktop so that they can be quickly accessed? >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 06:36:10 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 06:36:10 +0100 Subject: batteries Message-ID: <0AF45F1B-136E-4E9D-B3BD-9B03D11AF277@gmail.com> hi these apple batteries are a waste of money i have only again after a charge used these batteries for a week and already on my iMac keyboard on 43 percent. I assume they are the rechargeable ones I am using since, when I take them from my apple charger, it says 100 percent why would it say that if they were not chargeable? apple make a lot of claims but the life of them is ridiculous From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 08:24:31 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 08:24:31 +0100 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: <66E3A185-08FD-4A40-8728-7CFBCEDA6544@speedpost.net> References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> <7B35120B-6E62-40BD-9B2E-02699DC63624@mac-access.net> <8D22A044-2479-4B20-ACCD-405AFF75558E@Mac-Access.net> <66E3A185-08FD-4A40-8728-7CFBCEDA6544@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <1B8F5325-1401-41F1-AB09-F71AF42CA061@mac-access.net> Hello Zack I have been participating in, and watching this thread and I have a query. My understanding is that, if you want to backup a BC partition from the mac you'd have to use a sector-level backup utility. I don't think either Super Duper! or CCC will allow you to do that because as I understand it they don't backup at the sector level, only files. After much effort and frustrations Gordon has managed to make me understand the various things involved in the way a hard drive works. And I now have a working, although by no means full, understanding of the various differences between things like sectors and clusters, and the different types of partition tables. My understanding is that a FAT or NTFS partition wouldn't be backed up by a standard Mac based backup utility. I know that's true of Super Duper! because it makes it very clear that it does not backup the system and temporary files which Apple recommends not to back up; let alone effectively alien partition types. Yes, if you have a VM in Fusion which is to all intents and purposes a file set within the Mac HD, that's going to be backed up by CCC or Super Duper! But a Boot Camp partition is not; that's my understanding anyway. I'm no expert and please correct me if I am wrong. But that is my limited understanding. Lynne On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:21, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Eric, Your assumption about being able to back up your FUsion VM with CCC is correct. When you don't want your Mac's resources being used by Windows, simply stop the VM. I use a Fusion VM of Windows 7 with 2 GB of ram and it works quite nicely. There's no noticeable slowdown on the Mac side of things. From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 08:25:17 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 08:25:17 +0100 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> <7B35120B-6E62-40BD-9B2E-02699DC63624@mac-access.net> <8D22A044-2479-4B20-ACCD-405AFF75558E@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <150EBC55-E8A6-4DBF-853E-141A08A5CBD4@mac-access.net> Eric It would, but not if it's a BC partition. Lynne On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:23, Eric Caron wrote: I was hoping that once VM Fusion was running with Windows CCC would consider it part of the Macintosh HD and just back up the whole thing. I could then ultimately ditch bootcamp. It sounds like that is not the case. So other solutions would be greatly appreciated! Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Eric > > Fusion isn't a backup utility, so you'd be no better off. > > Gordon > > On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:09, Eric Caron wrote: > > Hi Gordon and others, > > Perhaps I need to use VM Fusion? I don't use windows much so bootcamp was good enough for me. also I only have 4 GB ram so I did not want to share resources. If I were to instal VM Fusion would windows then back up with CCC as part of my Macintosh HD? Also, Can I just not run the VM when I want my mac to use all resources including the 4 GB ram? > I love the security of having a bootable backup that has everything there thee way it was when things were working well. > > Eric Caron > > On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi Eric >> >> We neither of us knew about that discontinuation of the software, sorry about that. Actually this is something that you should be able to get over by doing a sector-level backup of the hard drive. I'm sure there are Mac utilities out there which do that. I will investigate. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 2 Sep 2011, at 17:15, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Gordon, >> >> I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. >> >> Is there another option out there? >> >> Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. >> >> suggestions greatly appreciated! >> >> Eric Caron >> On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> Have you tried WinClone? >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> >>> On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. >>> I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? >>> Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? >>> >>> I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. >>> >>> >>> Tips would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From support at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 08:41:59 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 08:41:59 +0100 Subject: Subject Lines In-Reply-To: <0AF45F1B-136E-4E9D-B3BD-9B03D11AF277@gmail.com> References: <0AF45F1B-136E-4E9D-B3BD-9B03D11AF277@gmail.com> Message-ID: <446A3768-B052-4890-B884-B6E3A32FA43F@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I hate to keep harping on about this; but it's quite an important issue and we seem to be becoming a bit lax again. Time for another gentle reminder. Please keep subject lines relevant. We're all guilty, including yours truly. But can we all try a little harder please. It's becoming difficult to manage the archives because of erroneous subject lines which, in some cases, don't even lead one to believe that the author is referring to Apple or related products at all. For instance without opening the message, a subject line such as "Power supply", "Battery charger", things like that,seem more at home on our sister group, "Techno-Chat". So could we all try just a bit harder please. If you feel the subject line of something to which you're replying is inappropriate or nondescript, please take the initiative and change it; don't just leave it to others. Gordon and I have been just as guilty as anybody else on occasions so please don't think this is in any way personal. Thank you. Lynne ------------------------------ Gordon & Lynne Smith, Are you an iOS or Mac OS fan? If so, consider joining our vibrant community of fellow-enthusiasts. To join our forum, send a message to: with the word "subscribe" [no quotes] in the subject line of your message. Or else, visit: ------------------------------ From zkline at speedpost.net Sat Sep 3 08:44:06 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 00:44:06 -0700 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: <1B8F5325-1401-41F1-AB09-F71AF42CA061@mac-access.net> References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> <7B35120B-6E62-40BD-9B2E-02699DC63624@mac-access.net> <8D22A044-2479-4B20-ACCD-405AFF75558E@Mac-Access.net> <66E3A185-08FD-4A40-8728-7CFBCEDA6544@speedpost.net> <1B8F5325-1401-41F1-AB09-F71AF42CA061@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <23211F56-6F6B-45F3-9934-C6C1C7F5E402@speedpost.net> Hi Lynn, You're quite correct. CCC or SuperDuper would not back up any bootcamp partition, you'd need another backup utility to do that. I'm not sure what programs are available for such tasks, as I find CCC adequate for my needs. This is probably a good argument in favor of single-file VM configurations, but that's neither here nor there. THe point to all this is yes, Lynn, you're right. :) Yours, Zack. On Sep 3, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Zack > > I have been participating in, and watching this thread and I have a query. My understanding is that, if you want to backup a BC partition from the mac you'd have to use a sector-level backup utility. I don't think either Super Duper! or CCC will allow you to do that because as I understand it they don't backup at the sector level, only files. After much effort and frustrations Gordon has managed to make me understand the various things involved in the way a hard drive works. And I now have a working, although by no means full, understanding of the various differences between things like sectors and clusters, and the different types of partition tables. My understanding is that a FAT or NTFS partition wouldn't be backed up by a standard Mac based backup utility. I know that's true of Super Duper! because it makes it very clear that it does not backup the system and temporary files which Apple recommends not to back up; let alone effectively alien partition types. > > Yes, if you have a VM in Fusion which is to all intents and purposes a file set within the Mac HD, that's going to be backed up by CCC or Super Duper! But a Boot Camp partition is not; that's my understanding anyway. I'm no expert and please correct me if I am wrong. But that is my limited understanding. > > Lynne > > > On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:21, Zachary Kline wrote: > > Hi Eric, > Your assumption about being able to back up your FUsion VM with CCC is correct. When you don't want your Mac's resources being used by Windows, simply stop the VM. I use a Fusion VM of Windows 7 with 2 GB of ram and it works quite nicely. There's no noticeable slowdown on the Mac side of things. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 09:44:55 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:44:55 +0100 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: <23211F56-6F6B-45F3-9934-C6C1C7F5E402@speedpost.net> References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> <7B35120B-6E62-40BD-9B2E-02699DC63624@mac-access.net> <8D22A044-2479-4B20-ACCD-405AFF75558E@Mac-Access.net> <66E3A185-08FD-4A40-8728-7CFBCEDA6544@speedpost.net> <1B8F5325-1401-41F1-AB09-F71AF42CA061@mac-access.net> <23211F56-6F6B-45F3-9934-C6C1C7F5E402@speedpost.net> Message-ID: hello Zack And the point I was trying to make here, but neglected too was that even if you used Fusion and ran your instance of Windows from that using your BC partition which, I am sure, is perfectly possible, that wouldn't enable you to back up the Windows install any more easily. So you'd be looking at a re-installation of Windows using a virtual hard drive which, subsequently, would be extremely easy to backup and re-import at a later time assuming your hardware configuration didn't change. I gather that there are disadvantages as well as advantages with the dynamic hard drive; but it would seem to me that the advantages outweigh the disadvantages if the virtual drive is correctly configured. We have a Windows 7 installation for those rare occasions where it's needed. But it's a virtual drive and it's a 64-bit configuration of Windows rather than a standard 32-bit. We did try the 32-bit version under Fusion and also under Parallels Desktop but we found that even with a screen-reader, the 64-bit version running under Lion which, as we all know, is a native 64-bit OS in itself, performed better than the 32-bit even in native mode. Our machine has 8GB of RAM installed and what we ended up doing was just configuring the Windows machine to use 4GB and leaving 4GB for OSX. It did work with 2GB assigned for either OS but we ultimately decided that for the sake of simplicity we'd do it that way. I'm not going to go down the road of Windows backup utilities; but there is one which we were recommended by Dane actually and it seems to be quite good. It runs under Windows; so I won't talk about it here. I'll gladly do so on Techno-chat if those who are members are interested. If you want to join, the email address to do so is: Lynne On 3 Sep 2011, at 08:44, Zachary Kline wrote: ? You're quite correct. CCC or SuperDuper would not back up any bootcamp partition, you'd need another backup utility to do that. I'm not sure what programs are available for such tasks, as I find CCC adequate for my needs. This is probably a good argument in favor of single-file VM configurations, but that's neither here nor there. THe point to all this is yes, Lynn, you're right. :) From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sat Sep 3 10:36:51 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:36:51 +0100 Subject: iSync under Lion? In-Reply-To: References: <1B45A414-C4D3-43AB-B4F7-F91EBAFE0D08@busboom.at> <362F86B4-742D-4441-B55A-537D3A6F009C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <16577A2A-DD92-4D2A-AE36-8B46CEA40C4F@btinternet.com> I was looking for this utility as well and could not find it. searching under Google it appears that anybody who has Lion will have had this utility deleted. This is because Apple are assuming I-Phone usage rather than old Nokia type phones. This seems a bit peremptory. The advice on the Google search I made was that if you have a Time Machine backup you can restore I-Synch and it will work fine under Lion but you are unable to download it as anew Lion user. Regards David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com On 2 Sep 2011, at 09:49, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hi, Sarah, > > I checked under Utilities, as well as in the Applications folder. The only program that might be what I want is Bluetooth File Exchange. > > Could I have done something wrong when installing Lion? Can the iSynch program be downloaded as a stand-alone? > > Thanks, Sarah, > > Mike > > On 1,Sep,2011, at 10:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> did you check under utilities? If not go to finder and hit cmd shift u to get there quickly. >> >> Take care and good luck. >> On Sep 1, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> Since I recently added several new contacts to my Nokia phone, I decided to update my Mac Address Book by using iSync after having paired my Nokia phone to the Mac via Bluetooth. >>> >>> When I went into my applications folder, I didn't find iSync. Did I do something wrong when installing Lion, or does the Mac under Lion handle synchronization of such things differently now? When I went into my Mac Address Book, I found no menu option which would allow me to synchronize the Mac address book with the one on my Nokia. Bluetooth was enabled, and the devices were paired. >>> >>> Thanks a million and good night to all! >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Sep 3 12:26:30 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 21:26:30 +1000 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people Message-ID: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> Hi all! Yep, I know the subject line of this message is an absolute falsehood however there's an email doing the rounds which claims that those who have managed to access the Apple TV are telling lies? Well I've had one for over 8 months now and I've written things up as I've seen and experienced them so let's see what this chap has to say and you all can draw your own conclusions. I debated whether or not to quote this message but really Apple nor anyone else requires nonsense being spread around regarding their product, so read on folks. Hello all. I decided that I wanted to buy an Apple tv. But sadly to say, never again. Most of the so called accessible information posted by blind people in relation to accessibility is totally inaccurate to say the least. If people who are blind are absolutely serious about buying an Apple tv then please take note. 1. Your current home television, the one which sits in your living room or bedroom must, yes must have both an h d m i port and an h d m i channel. 2. It is definitely preferred by apple and also your home television manufacturer that your home television has an internet connection port. This must, yes must be a port which is capable of supporting a wifi or wireless network. Cable broadband users should forget about apple tv altogether. 3. If you really want an apple tv, you will definitely need an apple computer. Even though iTunes is accessible with Jaws, this doesn't guarantee you access to your apple tv. 4. If you are determined to register your apple tv using a computer, you must buy what is called a micro usb cable. This cable must, yes, must be correctly configured, tip, make sure you buy one direct from apple. Take no chances on using another micro usb cable. The small end of this cable goes in to your apple tv, and the large end goes in to a usb port on your apple computer. 5. If you get the device showing in iTunes, but there is no version number of the current software being displayed which happened in my case, do not, I repeat do not attempt to restore this device to factory defaults without sighted assistance. Take it to an apple store and get them to do it for you. 6. Your wifi network or wireless network must, yes must be what is called 801 compatible, and it must be able to stream video content. I was stupid enough not to have checked this with my network provider, I had the right wifi compatibility, but it wasn't capable of video streaming. 7. You will also need to purchase what is called an h d m i cable. Definite tip, again, purchase this cable from an actual apple store for correct configuration. 8. Insure your home television is less than 12 months old, because believe me, tech support I had to get to see if it was my home television which was at fault was ridiculously overpriced to say the least. 9. Insure your home television has the latest hardware available for the model, if there is any software available which can be installed, insure the latest version of this software is installed. Apple tv in my case wasn't accessible in the least. This is sad, because Apple even claims it can be made to work with voice over at the very least. Well, I tried 2 Apple tv's, sorry Apple, never again. Even if I could be bothered upgrading my home television, Apple tv is definitely not going to be for me. Finally, the positives. Apple were extremely patient and helpful from their end which is more than I can say for bush the maker of my home television. I had to call a 1902 number, pay $2.95 a minute, and they promised to call me back, but I had to chase them myself. As I say, Apple were extremely patient with me, they at least got the second apple tv working with iTunes and voice over, but the home television just wouldn't accept the apple tv. We kept getting a usb cable missing flashing message, and there was nothing we could do to get rid of it, because for a start, my home tv doesn't have a usb cable connection anyway. I hope that somebody who is blind can make Apple tv work for you. Please, I have spent 3 weeks work of research in my case, I assure everyone, my information, especially in my case is thoroughly accurate, truthful and correct to the very best of my knowledge. I sincerely hope that other people who are blind will have much more joy than I have had. Please, feel free to forward my email to any appropriate discussions lists or groups, I give you here and now my full written permission to do so. Please also feel free to email me off list, I am, I can assure you, especially interested, in hearing if other people who are blind can actually get apple tv, both fully working and fully accessible. -- Dane Trethowan Sending email from his EEEPC Netbook From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 12:31:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:31:12 +0100 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> Message-ID: I'm surprised you even bothered to give this pile of junk a second reading. Lynne On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:26, Dane Trethowan wrote: Hi all! Yep, I know the subject line of this message is an absolute falsehood however there's an email doing the rounds which claims that those who have managed to access the Apple TV are telling lies? Well I've had one for over 8 months now and I've written things up as I've seen and experienced them so let's see what this chap has to say and you all can draw your own conclusions. I debated whether or not to quote this message but really Apple nor anyone else requires nonsense being spread around regarding their product, so read on folks. From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Sep 3 12:33:32 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 21:33:32 +1000 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> I think it best that one tries to understand how the other half live rather than being "up ourselves", at least we can all have a good laugh if nothing else. On 3/09/2011 9:31 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > I'm surprised you even bothered to give this pile of junk a second reading. > > Lynne > > On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:26, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > Hi all! > > Yep, I know the subject line of this message is an absolute falsehood however there's an email doing the rounds which claims that those who have managed to access the Apple TV are telling lies? Well I've had one for over 8 months now and I've written things up as I've seen and experienced them so let's see what this chap has to say and you all can draw your own conclusions. > > I debated whether or not to quote this message but really Apple nor anyone else requires nonsense being spread around regarding their product, so read on folks. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan Sending email from his EEEPC Netbook From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 12:51:38 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:51:38 +0100 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hello Dane Yes; but the problem here is that this is just another example, sadly, of people being too quick to judge when they honestly don't know what they're talking about. We have an AppleTV here and my other half can use it just as well as I can. In fact the only real problem in terms of accessibility is the audio system. We have a surround sound system on loan from my brother and it's a high-end system. The problem is, of course, the interface. It's all touch-screen and most of that is menu-driven. But that is beyond the scope of this group. The AppleTV works fine so how anybody can claim it isn't accessible is beyond me. Why waste time trying to understand nonsense? Lynne On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:33, Dane Trethowan wrote: I think it best that one tries to understand how the other half live rather than being "up ourselves", at least we can all have a good laugh if nothing else. On 3/09/2011 9:31 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > I'm surprised you even bothered to give this pile of junk a second reading. > > Lynne > > On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:26, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > Hi all! > > Yep, I know the subject line of this message is an absolute falsehood however there's an email doing the rounds which claims that those who have managed to access the Apple TV are telling lies? Well I've had one for over 8 months now and I've written things up as I've seen and experienced them so let's see what this chap has to say and you all can draw your own conclusions. > > I debated whether or not to quote this message but really Apple nor anyone else requires nonsense being spread around regarding their product, so read on folks. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan Sending email from his EEEPC Netbook <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Sep 3 12:58:05 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 21:58:05 +1000 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> Some of the points in the message may be ballid, those concerning another Screen Reader for example. Too quick to judge? Yep perhaps but there's a a load of miss-information included here so a very bad source somewhere is being consulted. On 3/09/2011 9:51 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Dane > > Yes; but the problem here is that this is just another example, sadly, of people being too quick to judge when they honestly don't know what they're talking about. We have an AppleTV here and my other half can use it just as well as I can. > > In fact the only real problem in terms of accessibility is the audio system. We have a surround sound system on loan from my brother and it's a high-end system. The problem is, of course, the interface. It's all touch-screen and most of that is menu-driven. But that is beyond the scope of this group. The AppleTV works fine so how anybody can claim it isn't accessible is beyond me. Why waste time trying to understand nonsense? > > Lynne > > > On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:33, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > I think it best that one tries to understand how the other half live rather than being "up ourselves", at least we can all have a good laugh if nothing else. > > > > On 3/09/2011 9:31 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> I'm surprised you even bothered to give this pile of junk a second reading. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:26, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> Hi all! >> >> Yep, I know the subject line of this message is an absolute falsehood however there's an email doing the rounds which claims that those who have managed to access the Apple TV are telling lies? Well I've had one for over 8 months now and I've written things up as I've seen and experienced them so let's see what this chap has to say and you all can draw your own conclusions. >> >> I debated whether or not to quote this message but really Apple nor anyone else requires nonsense being spread around regarding their product, so read on folks. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> -- Dane Trethowan Sending email from his EEEPC Netbook From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 13:18:08 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:18:08 +0100 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> Message-ID: The fact is that AppleTV is not inaccessible. Quite the contrary actually. That doesn't make it perfect, don't get me wrong. I'm not defending it just or even primarily because we happen to be mostly in Apple's corner. In fact Dane, if you saw some of the things we've written elsewhere recently regarding some aspects of Apple's operations you may not make that assertion. I speak as I find; and I like most of what Apple is doing. Most, but not all. For instance I happen to think that the way they've redesigned the new Mac Mini is a huge mistake. Perhaps it was done for marketing purposes but I simply can't understand why on earth they would want to prohibit the user from going back to Snow Leopard, even as an interim step. But I won't get back to that old discussion. All Im saying is that Gordon doesn't have any issues with using the Apple TV and actually we use it quite a lot. The AppleTV first generation was a different kettle of fish. Lynne On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:58, Dane Trethowan wrote: Some of the points in the message may be ballid, those concerning another Screen Reader for example. Too quick to judge? Yep perhaps but there's a a load of miss-information included here so a very bad source somewhere is being consulted. From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 14:12:05 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:12:05 +0100 Subject: Jawbone Jambox Website, could somebody test please? Message-ID: <581F8467-47E6-4E59-8092-788F5383C952@mac-access.net> Hi all Before I file a bug on this with Apple could somebody possibly test for me please to see if they find that Safari gets stuck on various links. I don't know whether or not you need to sign into the site for this to happen, because I'm auto-logged in. The site is I am finding that Safari just goes round and round and round in circles whether in DOM or Groups mode, and I get repeated busy messages. Even the short term work-around of turning off and on VoiceOver doesn't work here and I can't deny that I really am starting to find these repeated busy busy busy problems a major irritant. In fact, I'm contemplating pushing this machine back to Snow Leopard because of this issue. It's gavin such an impact on my browsing experience that I even found I had to resort to Windows this morning to get one job done. Possibly it's local configuration I honestly don't know. But I'm becoming a little disillusioned with Safari. Gordon From moriond at mac.com Sat Sep 3 14:34:54 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 03:34:54 -1000 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: <23211F56-6F6B-45F3-9934-C6C1C7F5E402@speedpost.net> References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> <7B35120B-6E62-40BD-9B2E-02699DC63624@mac-access.net> <8D22A044-2479-4B20-ACCD-405AFF75558E@Mac-Access.net> <66E3A185-08FD-4A40-8728-7CFBCEDA6544@speedpost.net> <1B8F5325-1401-41F1-AB09-F71AF42CA061@mac-access.net> <23211F56-6F6B-45F3-9934-C6C1C7F5E402@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <3D54C190-9BE6-42D2-807A-666ED12E87AC@mac.com> Hi All, I don't use Windows through BootCamp or VMWare Fusion, but I thought I would quote the results of a Google search from the Carbon Copy Cloner FAQ: http://help.bombich.com/kb/troubleshooting/can-ccc-back-up-my-bootcamp-windows-partition Home ? Knowledge Base ? Frequently Asked Questions and Troubleshooting ? Can CCC back up my BootCamp (Windows) partition? CCC can back up the contents of the Boot Camp partition, but it cannot make a bootable clone of the partition. If your goal is to back up your user data on the Boot Camp partition, CCC will meet your needs. If you're looking to migrate your Boot Camp partition to a new hard drive, you might consider an alternative solution such as WinClone, or one of the commercial virtualization solutions that offer a migration strategy from Boot Camp. To reiterate the points that both Zack and Lynne have made, CCC cannot make a bootable clone that includes a separate BootCamp partition, but it can create a bootable clone that includes a VMWare Fusion virtualized image made using the BootCamp partition -- however, you would not be running BootCamp if you used this bootable clone, but instead accessing Windows through VMWare Fusion. I'll add that neither Carbon Copy Cloner nor SuperDuper! will back up the recovery partition that gets installed on your hard drive with Lion. This is the small partition that lets you hold down Command-R at start up or the Option key at boot time to select and start up from that partition. You can create external recovery disks with Lion Recovery Disk Assistant, as outlined in the "Take Control of Upgrading to Lion" guide or in the recent TidBITS article, "Lion Recovery Disk Assistant Creates External Recovery Drives": http://tidbits.com/article/12411 I'll list a few of the answers that have appeared in the Apple Discussion forums for backup tools that will handle cloning the BootCamp partition. Most users preferred to handle the Mac partition backups with either SuperDuper! or CCC. Although some of the following can handle both, they may be meant primarily for drive imaging, so there are other tradeoffs (e.g., take much longer, fewer backup/restore options with more specific functionality, etc.) ? CopyCatX 5.0 from SubRosaSoft.com: http://www.subrosasoft.com/OSXSoftware/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=7 ? Clone X 4 from TRI-EDRE: http://www.tri-edre.com/english/clonex.html (The French web page is: ) * Paragon HD Manager 2011 or Paragon Backup & Recovery 10 Home: http://www.paragon-software.com/home/hdm-personal/ http://www.paragon-software.com/home/brh/features.html (I'm not sure whether you run this from BootCamp; the description of how someone used the "Backup Partition" option of HD Manager 2011 to boot from DVD sounded as though it might not be accessible.) The inability to use Winclone under Lion and its lack of current development/support was mentioned, and it wasn't clear whether Clonezilla, a solution that worked under Snow Leopard and which is free and open source software, would also work under Lion. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 2, 2011, at 21:44, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Lynn, > You're quite correct. CCC or SuperDuper would not back up any bootcamp partition, you'd need another backup utility to do that. I'm not sure what programs are available for such tasks, as I find CCC adequate for my needs. This is probably a good argument in favor of single-file VM configurations, but that's neither here nor there. THe point to all this is yes, Lynn, you're right. :) > Yours, > Zack. From moriond at mac.com Sat Sep 3 14:49:55 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 03:49:55 -1000 Subject: Jawbone Jambox Website, could somebody test please? In-Reply-To: <581F8467-47E6-4E59-8092-788F5383C952@mac-access.net> References: <581F8467-47E6-4E59-8092-788F5383C952@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Gordon, I find the Mytalk Jawbone site always presents problems for screen readers. I'm not getting the constant Safari busy messages, since I haven't upgraded to Safari 5.1, but this is just not a good site to try to navigate. Incidentally, I think that the issue with your browsing experience is also largely Safari 5.1 rather than Lion vs. Snow Leopard. Can I suggest that you wimp out and get sighted help for the Mytalk site? I really like the Live Audio update for Jambox, but the Mytalk web site is pretty bad to navigate. Maybe Geoff Waaler, or someone who managed to navigate Mytalk for the original Jambox software installation, can comment. (I'd like to hear if someone managed to do this successfully on a Mac; as far as I know, Geoff did manage it under Windows, but with difficulty.) Cheers, Esther On Sep 3, 2011, at 03:12, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi all > > Before I file a bug on this with Apple could somebody possibly test for me please to see if they find that Safari gets stuck on various links. I don't know whether or not you need to sign into the site for this to happen, because I'm auto-logged in. > > The site is I am finding that Safari just goes round and round and round in circles whether in DOM or Groups mode, and I get repeated busy messages. Even the short term work-around of turning off and on VoiceOver doesn't work here and I can't deny that I really am starting to find these repeated busy busy busy problems a major irritant. > > In fact, I'm contemplating pushing this machine back to Snow Leopard because of this issue. It's gavin such an impact on my browsing experience that I even found I had to resort to Windows this morning to get one job done. Possibly it's local configuration I honestly don't know. But I'm becoming a little disillusioned with Safari. > > Gordon > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 15:00:18 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:00:18 +0100 Subject: distortion In-Reply-To: <137279B2-7E56-465C-A893-87EFD1E01900@mac-access.net> References: <42C79C39-3ABD-44A7-B374-C9A07D622495@mac-access.net> <137279B2-7E56-465C-A893-87EFD1E01900@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <80EBB993-EF89-4AE7-81ED-8C46110BA275@gmail.com> happening with my interal speaker with voiceover On Aug 29, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello William > > That's often how it happens; these thins just suddenly go. Is the cord that you get on restart also distorted? Are you getting the same distortion on everything and does it happen with headphones or an external speaker set? > > I'm no expert, just trying to suggest a few basic things. You might also try the PRAM reset, hold down the P, R, Command and Option keys when you power on the machine. Wait till the cord sounds 4 times and then release them. > > Lynne > > On 29 Aug 2011, at 20:08, william lomas wrote: > > been working fine for months though > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 15:06:11 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:06:11 +0100 Subject: Jawbone Jambox Website, could somebody test please? In-Reply-To: References: <581F8467-47E6-4E59-8092-788F5383C952@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <83621DF6-D0ED-41FA-8407-A6F5241FF0D4@mac-access.net> Hi Esther yes, I think I'm going to have to get Lynne to give me a hand here. And yes, I appreciate that the busy problems are related to Safari 5.1.x rather than the OS. But the reason I am toying with the idea of a downgrade are that Safari 5.1 is native to Lion, and you can't downgrade Safari., whereas with SL you can, of course, opt not to upgrade to Safari 5.1 Gordon On 3 Sep 2011, at 14:49, Esther wrote: Hi Gordon, I find the Mytalk Jawbone site always presents problems for screen readers. I'm not getting the constant Safari busy messages, since I haven't upgraded to Safari 5.1, but this is just not a good site to try to navigate. Incidentally, I think that the issue with your browsing experience is also largely Safari 5.1 rather than Lion vs. Snow Leopard. Can I suggest that you wimp out and get sighted help for the Mytalk site? I really like the Live Audio update for Jambox, but the Mytalk web site is pretty bad to navigate. Maybe Geoff Waaler, or someone who managed to navigate Mytalk for the original Jambox software installation, can comment. (I'd like to hear if someone managed to do this successfully on a Mac; as far as I know, Geoff did manage it under Windows, but with difficulty.) Cheers, Esther On Sep 3, 2011, at 03:12, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi all > > Before I file a bug on this with Apple could somebody possibly test for me please to see if they find that Safari gets stuck on various links. I don't know whether or not you need to sign into the site for this to happen, because I'm auto-logged in. > > The site is I am finding that Safari just goes round and round and round in circles whether in DOM or Groups mode, and I get repeated busy messages. Even the short term work-around of turning off and on VoiceOver doesn't work here and I can't deny that I really am starting to find these repeated busy busy busy problems a major irritant. > > In fact, I'm contemplating pushing this machine back to Snow Leopard because of this issue. It's gavin such an impact on my browsing experience that I even found I had to resort to Windows this morning to get one job done. Possibly it's local configuration I honestly don't know. But I'm becoming a little disillusioned with Safari. > > Gordon > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 15:08:55 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:08:55 +0100 Subject: Mac Audio distortion In-Reply-To: <80EBB993-EF89-4AE7-81ED-8C46110BA275@gmail.com> References: <42C79C39-3ABD-44A7-B374-C9A07D622495@mac-access.net> <137279B2-7E56-465C-A893-87EFD1E01900@mac-access.net> <80EBB993-EF89-4AE7-81ED-8C46110BA275@gmail.com> Message-ID: This sounds like a hardware fault but did you follow the suggestions and see if they made any difference? On 3 Sep 2011, at 15:00, william lomas wrote: happening with my interal speaker with voiceover From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 15:20:44 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:20:44 +0100 Subject: Found a way to navigate Mytalk Message-ID: <6812529C-00ED-4D68-8D4B-E0F00517F28B@mac-access.net> OK, I've fond a way to navigate the MyTalk website. If you do a mouse click on the image that says "No device connected" it takes you to the next screen which is then seemingly accessible. From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 15:54:18 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:54:18 -0500 Subject: itunes and flac? Message-ID: any way, any way at all, can ITunes play flac files? I've got apple lossless files, that won't work in staiton playlist studio cause there's no winamp plugin for them, and i wanna convert them to flac so they'll work, but i'm not keeping 2 copies of the same files around. help! :) unless aiff? but that's even bigger than apple lossless/flac. From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 15:55:35 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 09:55:35 -0500 Subject: unatteneded windows installations Message-ID: anyone found an easy way to independently install windows using bootcamp? i'm not dragging the rents in here thank you. :) or, is it even possible to do an unattended install of windows using bootcamp? From krbarry at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 16:57:27 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:57:27 -0400 Subject: Signing into skype account on iPod Touch In-Reply-To: <7A6FADA2-1623-4745-9156-F7CB561C3622@q.com> References: <7A6FADA2-1623-4745-9156-F7CB561C3622@q.com> Message-ID: <4e624e71.a822340a.4695.2747@mx.google.com> You have to enter in your user id and password. As all your contact info is stored on Skype servers, nothing else is required. At 11:53 PM 9/1/2011, you wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >I just got skype from the App store for my iPod Touch and synced it >with my iMac. I discovered that the sign in button is dimmed on my >iPod, and I'm wondering if there's a way to use all the skype >contacts from my iMac account, or do I have to set up a new one for >the iPod? Any help with this ASAP would be most appreciated! > >Desi ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Sep 3 18:01:56 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:01:56 -0500 Subject: unatteneded windows installations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You might be able to do it if you memorize the keystrokes, bt that's risky. A much better option is to use vmware fusion, this will allow you to install windows without sighted help. I did this with windows 7 a few weeks ago and it works great. On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:55 AM, joe quinn wrote: > anyone found an easy way to independently install windows using bootcamp? i'm not dragging the rents in here thank you. :) or, is it even possible to do an unattended install of windows using bootcamp? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 18:18:04 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 19:18:04 +0200 Subject: unatteneded windows installations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi! You can use unattended installations just fine, as long as you tell it to use the right partition. The partition will always be named Bootcamp, so running the Automated Installation Kit won't be an issue at all if you configure the right parameters in advance. Regards, Nic On Sep 3, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > You might be able to do it if you memorize the keystrokes, bt that's risky. A much better option is to use vmware fusion, this will allow you to install windows without sighted help. I did this with windows 7 a few weeks ago and it works great. > On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:55 AM, joe quinn wrote: > >> anyone found an easy way to independently install windows using bootcamp? i'm not dragging the rents in here thank you. :) or, is it even possible to do an unattended install of windows using bootcamp? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 18:34:32 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 10:34:32 -0700 Subject: itunes and flac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why not convert them to mp3 vbr high quality? the listeners won't hear a difference and if you do ever broadcast on a mac, iTunes will definitely play those. On Sep 3, 2011, at 7:54 AM, joe quinn wrote: > any way, any way at all, can ITunes play flac files? I've got apple lossless files, that won't work in staiton playlist studio cause there's no winamp plugin for them, and i wanna convert them to flac so they'll work, but i'm not keeping 2 copies of the same files around. help! :) unless aiff? but that's even bigger than apple lossless/flac. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 18:44:57 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:44:57 +0100 Subject: Implicit Destinations; please read Message-ID: Hello everybody We are still encountering situations where people are trying to CC, BCC or add multiple destinations to the "To" field in messages they're posting to the groups we run. So let me remind the group again of policy, and the reason for it. None of the groups we run will accept any messages which contain the following in the message headers: 1. Messages to which the specific list is not the explicit destination. I.e., if you place more than one address in the "To:" field, the message will bounce. 2. If you place either a secondary destination, either external or another one of our lists into the BCC: or CC: fields, the message will bounce. The reason why this happens is that multiple implicit destinations are a favourite tactic of spammers trying to find open lists, lists which accept certain strings in their destination fields, or list owners addresses in the sender or CC field. In short, you won't be able to do this at all. If you try, regardless of whether or not you're a current member, your message will bounce. Repeated attempts will cause the list's bounce processing engine to increase your bounce score to the point where you're eventually removed by the software itself from the list. Please, therefore, do not attempt to use multiple destinations on any message you post to our groups. While they will possibly make it to the secondary group if it is external to ours, they won't make it to ours. We are repeatedly asked to relax this policy and we have received one aggressive demand in the last week to remove it altogether. This isn't going to happen; it's there for a reason, to protect you our members from spam, and it's here to stay. We regret any inconvenience that it might cause; but we feel that our members deserve to be protected from their inboxes being spammed by way of our groups; and we will do all in our power to prevent that from occurring. If you have questions by all means contact us off list. Lynne ------------------------------ Gordon & Lynne Smith, Are you an iOS or Mac OS fan? If so, consider joining our vibrant community of fellow-enthusiasts. To join our forum, send a message to: with the word "subscribe" [no quotes] in the subject line of your message. Or else, visit: ------------------------------ From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 18:47:41 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:47:41 +0100 Subject: itunes and flac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joe We have a plug-in somewhere but we never got it to work. You're welcome to it if you want it; contact us off list and I'll try and find it. We use FLAC album files although the same format for individual tracks is wasteful we think. Lynne On 3 Sep 2011, at 15:54, joe quinn wrote: any way, any way at all, can ITunes play flac files? I've got apple lossless files, that won't work in staiton playlist studio cause there's no winamp plugin for them, and i wanna convert them to flac so they'll work, but i'm not keeping 2 copies of the same files around. help! :) unless aiff? but that's even bigger than apple lossless/flac. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 19:15:08 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:15:08 -0500 Subject: unatteneded windows installations References: Message-ID: i love VMWare, but it's slow as syrup on my early 09 mini! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Arrigo" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 12:01 PM Subject: Re: unatteneded windows installations > You might be able to do it if you memorize the keystrokes, bt that's > risky. A much better option is to use vmware fusion, this will allow you > to install windows without sighted help. I did this with windows 7 a few > weeks ago and it works great. > On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:55 AM, joe quinn wrote: > >> anyone found an easy way to independently install windows using bootcamp? >> i'm not dragging the rents in here thank you. :) or, is it even possible >> to do an unattended install of windows using bootcamp? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 19:17:48 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 13:17:48 -0500 Subject: unatteneded windows installations References: Message-ID: <2BC5558EB0864D96AD9E6EED3883EBB5@joseph1> was this a blank message? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolai Svendsen" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 12:18 PM Subject: Re: unatteneded windows installations > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sat Sep 3 19:19:33 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:19:33 -0400 Subject: unatteneded windows installations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mike, I have just about decided to purchase VM fusion and try to instal Win 7. I've been watching all threads about this topic carefully. Recently one lister noted that VM tools can't be installed without sighted help. In your experience if I get the program is there any part I need sighted help with? Also, I have a functioning Bootcamp Partition that I could either keep or get rid of and as it is working correctly at the moment I'd love to have VM just import it. Do You know if I need to start over with my Windows 7 installation disk? Eric Caron On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > You might be able to do it if you memorize the keystrokes, bt that's risky. A much better option is to use vmware fusion, this will allow you to install windows without sighted help. I did this with windows 7 a few weeks ago and it works great. > On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:55 AM, joe quinn wrote: > >> anyone found an easy way to independently install windows using bootcamp? i'm not dragging the rents in here thank you. :) or, is it even possible to do an unattended install of windows using bootcamp? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From desiandcandy at q.com Sat Sep 3 19:20:15 2011 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:20:15 -0700 Subject: Signing into skype account on iPod Touch In-Reply-To: <4e624e71.a822340a.4695.2747@mx.google.com> References: <7A6FADA2-1623-4745-9156-F7CB561C3622@q.com> <4e624e71.a822340a.4695.2747@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks so much! I finally got it figured out, and made my first successful Skype call last night. Desi On Sep 3, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > You have to enter in your user id and password. > As all your contact info is stored on Skype servers, nothing else is required. > > At 11:53 PM 9/1/2011, you wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I just got skype from the App store for my iPod Touch and synced it with my iMac. I discovered that the sign in button is dimmed on my iPod, and I'm wondering if there's a way to use all the skype contacts from my iMac account, or do I have to set up a new one for the iPod? Any help with this ASAP would be most appreciated! >> >> Desi >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From zkline at speedpost.net Sat Sep 3 19:22:40 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:22:40 -0700 Subject: unatteneded windows installations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Eric, I must have missed the message to which you refer, but in my experience VmWare Tools does not need sighted help to install. I did it myself by following the procedure in the VmWare help files, and it installed successfully without any trouble. This, combined with the ability to automatically do unattended installations without need for the Windows automated installation kit or anything else, is a major selling point for Fusion in my opinion. Yours, Zack. On Sep 3, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I have just about decided to purchase VM fusion and try to instal Win 7. I've been watching all threads about this topic carefully. Recently one lister noted that VM tools can't be installed without sighted help. > > In your experience if I get the program is there any part I need sighted help with? Also, I have a functioning Bootcamp Partition that I could either keep or get rid of and as it is working correctly at the moment I'd love to have VM just import it. Do You know if I need to start over with my Windows 7 installation disk? > > Eric Caron > On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> You might be able to do it if you memorize the keystrokes, bt that's risky. A much better option is to use vmware fusion, this will allow you to install windows without sighted help. I did this with windows 7 a few weeks ago and it works great. >> On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:55 AM, joe quinn wrote: >> >>> anyone found an easy way to independently install windows using bootcamp? i'm not dragging the rents in here thank you. :) or, is it even possible to do an unattended install of windows using bootcamp? >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sat Sep 3 19:39:38 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:39:38 -0400 Subject: Backing up Bootcamp partition In-Reply-To: <3D54C190-9BE6-42D2-807A-666ED12E87AC@mac.com> References: <1D894DA1-9617-48EC-A2AD-2015F68C935F@Mac-Access.net> <4B3CBBDD-8EC8-4F1C-BA47-6BA3FA0945F7@mac-access.net> <7B35120B-6E62-40BD-9B2E-02699DC63624@mac-access.net> <8D22A044-2479-4B20-ACCD-405AFF75558E@Mac-Access.net> <66E3A185-08FD-4A40-8728-7CFBCEDA6544@speedpost.net> <1B8F5325-1401-41F1-AB09-F71AF42CA061@mac-access.net> <23211F56-6F6B-45F3-9934-C6C1C7F5E402@speedpost.net> <3D54C190-9BE6-42D2-807A-666ED12E87AC@mac.com> Message-ID: <12482440-6DE6-4C54-82B7-2B266694FD67@Mac-Access.net> ester, gordon, Zack, and all This quest for a backup solution has been much more difficult then I anticipated. I just wanted either Carbon Copy Cloner to take care of everything or find something on the Mac side to do the equivalent. Esther's post clarified many things for me. Even though I had all ready read the CCC notes indicating I would need another solution, I hoped that win clone or something might fill the need on the Mac side. I looked into the resources Esther listed and as they seemed to range in cost from about $30.00 to $60.00 US I began to really think the investment in VM Fusion might be the way to go. this way CCC can back up my system at a time when all is working well. For the extra cost I also get additional advantages available from VM Fusion. I did put a few feelers out on the Windows side of things and found nothing even close to the convenient and accessible solutions available on the Mac. So Unless I hear anything different in the near future I'll next be reviewing all my saved messages from this list on VM Fusion then probably asking you successful VM Fusion users for guidance. All the messages about lost sound and trouble loading in VM Tools and such have me a bit apprehensive. Thanks to all of you for this tremendous amount of information and support. Eric Caron On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi All, > > I don't use Windows through BootCamp or VMWare Fusion, but I thought I would quote the results of a Google search from the Carbon Copy Cloner FAQ: > http://help.bombich.com/kb/troubleshooting/can-ccc-back-up-my-bootcamp-windows-partition > > Home ? Knowledge Base ? Frequently Asked Questions and Troubleshooting ? > Can CCC back up my BootCamp (Windows) partition? > > CCC can back up the contents of the Boot Camp partition, but it cannot make a bootable clone of the partition. If your goal is to back up your user data on the Boot Camp partition, CCC will meet your needs. If you're looking to migrate your Boot Camp partition to a new hard drive, you might consider an alternative solution such as WinClone, or one of the commercial virtualization solutions that offer a migration strategy from Boot Camp. > > To reiterate the points that both Zack and Lynne have made, CCC cannot make a bootable clone that includes a separate BootCamp partition, but it can create a bootable clone that includes a VMWare Fusion virtualized image made using the BootCamp partition -- however, you would not be running BootCamp if you used this bootable clone, but instead accessing Windows through VMWare Fusion. > > I'll add that neither Carbon Copy Cloner nor SuperDuper! will back up the recovery partition that gets installed on your hard drive with Lion. This is the small partition that lets you hold down Command-R at start up or the Option key at boot time to select and start up from that partition. You can create external recovery disks with Lion Recovery Disk Assistant, as outlined in the "Take Control of Upgrading to Lion" guide or in the recent TidBITS article, "Lion Recovery Disk Assistant Creates External Recovery Drives": > http://tidbits.com/article/12411 > > I'll list a few of the answers that have appeared in the Apple Discussion forums for backup tools that will handle cloning the BootCamp partition. Most users preferred to handle the Mac partition backups with either SuperDuper! or CCC. Although some of the following can handle both, they may be meant primarily for drive imaging, so there are other tradeoffs (e.g., take much longer, fewer backup/restore options with more specific functionality, etc.) > > ? CopyCatX 5.0 from SubRosaSoft.com: > http://www.subrosasoft.com/OSXSoftware/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=7 > > ? Clone X 4 from TRI-EDRE: > http://www.tri-edre.com/english/clonex.html > (The French web page is: ) > > * Paragon HD Manager 2011 or Paragon Backup & Recovery 10 Home: > http://www.paragon-software.com/home/hdm-personal/ > http://www.paragon-software.com/home/brh/features.html > (I'm not sure whether you run this from BootCamp; the description of how someone used the "Backup Partition" option of HD Manager 2011 to boot from DVD sounded as though it might not be accessible.) > > The inability to use Winclone under Lion and its lack of current development/support was mentioned, and it wasn't clear whether Clonezilla, a solution that worked under Snow Leopard and which is free and open source software, would also work under Lion. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Sep 2, 2011, at 21:44, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Lynn, >> You're quite correct. CCC or SuperDuper would not back up any bootcamp partition, you'd need another backup utility to do that. I'm not sure what programs are available for such tasks, as I find CCC adequate for my needs. This is probably a good argument in favor of single-file VM configurations, but that's neither here nor there. THe point to all this is yes, Lynn, you're right. :) >> Yours, >> Zack. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 19:46:06 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:46:06 +0200 Subject: unatteneded windows installations In-Reply-To: <2BC5558EB0864D96AD9E6EED3883EBB5@joseph1> References: <2BC5558EB0864D96AD9E6EED3883EBB5@joseph1> Message-ID: <4F0C4595-D4D1-42D3-9BC1-59FB97C60565@gmail.com> Hi, Nope! Some email clients can't deal with security certificates, but here is what I said unencrypted. Hi! You can use unattended installations just fine, as long as you tell it to use the right partition. The partition will always be named Bootcamp, so running the Automated Installation Kit won't be an issue at all if you configure the right parameters in advance. Regards, Nic On Sep 3, 2011, at 8:17 PM, joe quinn wrote: > was this a blank message? :) > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolai Svendsen" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 12:18 PM > Subject: Re: unatteneded windows installations > > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 20:57:48 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:57:48 -0500 Subject: unatteneded windows installations References: <2BC5558EB0864D96AD9E6EED3883EBB5@joseph1> <4F0C4595-D4D1-42D3-9BC1-59FB97C60565@gmail.com> Message-ID: well where can i get one from? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolai Svendsen" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 1:46 PM Subject: Re: unatteneded windows installations > Hi, > > Nope! Some email clients can't deal with security certificates, but here > is what I said unencrypted. > > Hi! > > You can use unattended installations just fine, as long as you tell it to > use the right partition. The partition will always be named Bootcamp, so > running the Automated Installation Kit won't be an issue at all if you > configure the right parameters in advance. > > Regards, > Nic > On Sep 3, 2011, at 8:17 PM, joe quinn wrote: > >> was this a blank message? :) >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolai Svendsen" >> >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 12:18 PM >> Subject: Re: unatteneded windows installations >> >> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 21:30:08 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:30:08 +0100 Subject: Off Topic; Re: unatteneded windows installations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All: Could we please stay away from Windows stuff on this list, we're here for Mac. I know it's a grey area where BC is concerned but we need to be strict otherwise we're going to be inundated. Lynne ------------------------------ Gordon & Lynne Smith, Are you an iOS or Mac OS fan? If so, consider joining our vibrant community of fellow-enthusiasts. To join our forum, send a message to: with the word "subscribe" [no quotes] in the subject line of your message. Or else, visit: ------------------------------ From support at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 21:33:28 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:33:28 +0100 Subject: Please stop talking Windows; we are a Mac group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <367C0F3A-5ACC-4605-9C20-D2E297DF1052@mac-access.net> Again, please close this thread. We are here for Mac and this Windows topic is developing too far. I let it go for a little while in the hope it would fizzle out. But it isn't. So please discontinue the discussion of Windows. If you wish to discuss Windows by all means join our other group. But this is a Mac group. Thanks. Lynne ------------------------------ Gordon & Lynne Smith, Are you an iOS or Mac OS fan? If so, consider joining our vibrant community of fellow-enthusiasts. To join our forum, send a message to: with the word "subscribe" [no quotes] in the subject line of your message. Or else, visit: ------------------------------ From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 21:39:26 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:39:26 -0500 Subject: Off Topic; Re: unatteneded windows installations References: Message-ID: sorry... anyone, contact me off list about this... i was just mentioning it cause i wanted to install it on the Mac, with bootcamp, that is all. sorry for any rules i may've squished. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon & Lynne Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 3:30 PM Subject: Off Topic; Re: unatteneded windows installations > All: > > Could we please stay away from Windows stuff on this list, we're here for > Mac. I know it's a grey area where BC is concerned but we need to be > strict otherwise we're going to be inundated. > > Lynne > > > > ------------------------------ > > Gordon & Lynne Smith, > > Are you an iOS or Mac OS fan? If so, consider joining our vibrant > community of fellow-enthusiasts. To join our forum, send a message to: > > with the word "subscribe" [no quotes] in the subject line of your message. > Or else, visit: > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 3 21:46:58 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:46:58 +0100 Subject: Off Topic; Re: unatteneded windows installations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For future reference, we make it very clear in the list description that the configuration of Boot Camp, or of Fusion and the VM itself is fine. But the configuration of Windows itself is off topic. That configuration includes things like unattended installation and, for that matter, using Windows to achieve things like backups of Windows. Backing up a hard drive that just happens to contain Windows using a Mac application is a different kettle of fish. But we need to be very strict from now on regarding the discussion of Windows. This is nothing personal but we are not here for that. By all means join our Technology group where you may discuss Windows to your heart's content. I hope that makes the position more clear. We are going to bring on stream a topic filter to prevent people from inadvertently straying down the Windows road. We hoped that would not have been necessary but we think it's only fair since most users join to discuss Apple, not Microsoft. Again it's nothing personal. Lynne On 3 Sep 2011, at 21:39, joe quinn wrote: sorry... anyone, contact me off list about this... i was just mentioning it cause i wanted to install it on the Mac, with bootcamp, that is all. sorry for any rules i may've squished. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon & Lynne Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 3:30 PM Subject: Off Topic; Re: unatteneded windows installations > All: > > Could we please stay away from Windows stuff on this list, we're here for Mac. I know it's a grey area where BC is concerned but we need to be strict otherwise we're going to be inundated. > > Lynne > > > > ------------------------------ > > Gordon & Lynne Smith, > > Are you an iOS or Mac OS fan? If so, consider joining our vibrant community of fellow-enthusiasts. To join our forum, send a message to: > > with the word "subscribe" [no quotes] in the subject line of your message. Or else, visit: > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Sep 3 22:37:34 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 16:37:34 -0500 Subject: unatteneded windows installations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I did not have a problem with vmware tools. I used the vmware fusion easy install, windows 7 32 bit professional, it did the install and installed the vmware tools, and I ended up on the windows desktop. I have heard that user account control can get in the way of vmware tools installing, the first thing I did once windows was installed was to turn that off, I don't need the system prompting me if I'm sure I want to do something, if I didn't want it, I would not have selected it. Even if vmware tools does not install, you can install it manually once the virtual machine is up and running. On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I have just about decided to purchase VM fusion and try to instal Win 7. I've been watching all threads about this topic carefully. Recently one lister noted that VM tools can't be installed without sighted help. > > In your experience if I get the program is there any part I need sighted help with? Also, I have a functioning Bootcamp Partition that I could either keep or get rid of and as it is working correctly at the moment I'd love to have VM just import it. Do You know if I need to start over with my Windows 7 installation disk? > > Eric Caron > On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> You might be able to do it if you memorize the keystrokes, bt that's risky. A much better option is to use vmware fusion, this will allow you to install windows without sighted help. I did this with windows 7 a few weeks ago and it works great. >> On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:55 AM, joe quinn wrote: >> >>> anyone found an easy way to independently install windows using bootcamp? i'm not dragging the rents in here thank you. :) or, is it even possible to do an unattended install of windows using bootcamp? >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Sun Sep 4 00:17:32 2011 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 00:17:32 +0100 Subject: Implicit Destinations; please read References: Message-ID: Lynne and all, Thanks for the reminder, not that it should directly affect me personally. If anyone aggressively tries to get this feature stopped, this will be a big mistake. I have dropped lots of groups over the years due to spam overloads and as I'm still working my way through the take control titles and getting used to my mac, this would be v bad. Many thanks ps. auto-subscription cancellation sounds like just the kind of thing I like, I'd like to know how it is done if at all possible, that would be most useful. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon & Lynne Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 6:44 PM Subject: Implicit Destinations; please read > Hello everybody > > We are still encountering situations where people are trying to CC, BCC or > add multiple destinations to the "To" field in messages they're posting to > the groups we run. So let me remind the group again of policy, and the > reason for it. > > None of the groups we run will accept any messages which contain the > following in the message headers: > > 1. Messages to which the specific list is not the explicit destination. > I.e., if you place more than one address in the "To:" field, the message > will bounce. > > 2. If you place either a secondary destination, either external or another > one of our lists into the BCC: or CC: fields, the message will bounce. > > The reason why this happens is that multiple implicit destinations are a > favourite tactic of spammers trying to find open lists, lists which accept > certain strings in their destination fields, or list owners addresses in > the sender or CC field. In short, you won't be able to do this at all. If > you try, regardless of whether or not you're a current member, your > message will bounce. Repeated attempts will cause the list's bounce > processing engine to increase your bounce score to the point where you're > eventually removed by the software itself from the list. > > Please, therefore, do not attempt to use multiple destinations on any > message you post to our groups. While they will possibly make it to the > secondary group if it is external to ours, they won't make it to ours. We > are repeatedly asked to relax this policy and we have received one > aggressive demand in the last week to remove it altogether. This isn't > going to happen; it's there for a reason, to protect you our members from > spam, and it's here to stay. > > We regret any inconvenience that it might cause; but we feel that our > members deserve to be protected from their inboxes being spammed by way of > our groups; and we will do all in our power to prevent that from > occurring. > > If you have questions by all means contact us off list. > > Lynne > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Gordon & Lynne Smith, > > Are you an iOS or Mac OS fan? If so, consider joining our vibrant > community of fellow-enthusiasts. To join our forum, send a message to: > > with the word "subscribe" [no quotes] in the subject line of your message. > Or else, visit: > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au Sun Sep 4 07:07:08 2011 From: vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au (Vaughn Bennison) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:07:08 +1000 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> Further more, the apple tv doesn't even have a usb port! It has an ethernet port, an optical audio out port, and an HDMI port, oh and of course a power port! Your computer doesn't even come into the equation. I agree that having to use an hdmi port is kind of annoying, but only from the perspective that you may need sighted assistance to select the correct input channel! Vaughn. On 03/09/2011, at 10:18 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > The fact is that AppleTV is not inaccessible. Quite the contrary actually. That doesn't make it perfect, don't get me wrong. I'm not defending it just or even primarily because we happen to be mostly in Apple's corner. In fact Dane, if you saw some of the things we've written elsewhere recently regarding some aspects of Apple's operations you may not make that assertion. I speak as I find; and I like most of what Apple is doing. Most, but not all. > > For instance I happen to think that the way they've redesigned the new Mac Mini is a huge mistake. Perhaps it was done for marketing purposes but I simply can't understand why on earth they would want to prohibit the user from going back to Snow Leopard, even as an interim step. But I won't get back to that old discussion. All Im saying is that Gordon doesn't have any issues with using the Apple TV and actually we use it quite a lot. The AppleTV first generation was a different kettle of fish. > > Lynne > > On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:58, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > Some of the points in the message may be ballid, those concerning another Screen Reader for example. > > Too quick to judge? Yep perhaps but there's a a load of miss-information included here so a very bad source somewhere is being consulted. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Sep 4 08:05:57 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:05:57 +1000 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: I think i'd best make it clear again. Yep, of course the Apple TV is accessible and I would have been using 1 for 10 months if it weren't, I was just quoting another message someone else forwarded me from another list, thought some people may at least get a bit of a laugh out of some of what was written. Yep, some of his points may - in all fairness regarding Itunes - may be quite appropriate I just don't know but others are just way off the mark such as those referring to TV'S for example where the author of the original post talks about TV'S needing to have internet connectivity, mine doesn't but even supposing if it did? I used my Apple TV without a television as a companion for quite some time so you certainly don't need 1 to use the device, an audio amp with an optical in will do just nicely. I've never used the mini uSB port as I've had no need to do so, was quite able to register the Apple TV with it connected to my Wi-Fi network. I've heard of people jail breaking Apple TV devices but I ask the question here, what on earth for? I must be missing something because they seem feature packed enough to me as is, pity you can't browse a hard drive of files and just play them, yep that would be nice so perhaps that's why people jail break them. And now finally to the question of whether the Apple TV is perfect? Well nothing is of course but given the work Apple has done on this device and given the fact a blind person can drive one with ease and the fact that the Apple TV doesn't have a hard drive as its competition does? Well this device is nearing perfection indeed! in my opinion. On 04/09/2011, at 4:07 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > Further more, the apple tv doesn't even have a usb port! It has an ethernet port, an optical audio out port, and an HDMI port, oh and of course a power port! Your computer doesn't even come into the equation. I agree that having to use an hdmi port is kind of annoying, but only from the perspective that you may need sighted assistance to select the correct input channel! > > Vaughn. > On 03/09/2011, at 10:18 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> The fact is that AppleTV is not inaccessible. Quite the contrary actually. That doesn't make it perfect, don't get me wrong. I'm not defending it just or even primarily because we happen to be mostly in Apple's corner. In fact Dane, if you saw some of the things we've written elsewhere recently regarding some aspects of Apple's operations you may not make that assertion. I speak as I find; and I like most of what Apple is doing. Most, but not all. >> >> For instance I happen to think that the way they've redesigned the new Mac Mini is a huge mistake. Perhaps it was done for marketing purposes but I simply can't understand why on earth they would want to prohibit the user from going back to Snow Leopard, even as an interim step. But I won't get back to that old discussion. All Im saying is that Gordon doesn't have any issues with using the Apple TV and actually we use it quite a lot. The AppleTV first generation was a different kettle of fish. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:58, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> Some of the points in the message may be ballid, those concerning another Screen Reader for example. >> >> Too quick to judge? Yep perhaps but there's a a load of miss-information included here so a very bad source somewhere is being consulted. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Sep 4 12:34:55 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:34:55 +0100 Subject: How can I recover from hang/loop in Preview? In-Reply-To: References: <3D635328-65B0-42F4-8C99-D6298814AB0C@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Esther, This problem is now solved and Preview is again useable! Phew! Running the onyx verify start up disk function enabled the don't save button in Preview to work again. I imagine this onyx function does much the same thing as the checks made during boot up in safe mode. The problem was almost certainly due to my accidentally trying to convert multiple JPEG images into PNG in parallel using Preview. Hopefully my need to do this conversion is a one off and now that it is all done I hopefully don't have to do it again for a long time! Many thanks for your help. Paul Hopewell On 2 Sep 2011, at 22:54, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul, > > This one is a puzzler, but it sounds as though you might be using Preview to make changes in a graphics file using the Tools menu. Alternatively, could you be opening a file that is corrupted, or not really a supported file type? If the file is on an external volume that is not writable, make sure that you leave any windows that point there. (For example, on an externally mounted hard drive, I sometimes navigate down to a directory in a Terminal window.) > > What happens if you force quit the app, and then go to the affected file(s) in question and select it to open by default in some other app, like Skim? Can you check with the Activity Monitor that Preview is not running at all after you force quit? > > I assume that you tried restarting your machine and also clearing out caches? I've found that in some instances I can fix problems by booting into Safe Mode, which moves problem caches, including font caches that can be a problem for Preview, into the Trash. I believe that Martin McCormick has used this, and also reported that he was able to log into the machine via SSH past a certain point. > > The problem with safe mode boot is that audio is disabled, so you can't run VoiceOver. However, I've been able to fix some problems by just booting into Safe Mode, and then restarting my machine after I've done this, without having to actually access the system under Safe Mode. You hold down the Shift key when the system boots up, and the boot process takes longer to do than usual, because a directory check of the startup volume is forced as part of the process. > > Here's the Apple Document about booting Mac OS X into Safe Mode: > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1455 > > A google check indicates that Safe Mode should still work under Lion. > Sorry not to have more thoughts about this. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Sep 2, 2011, at 11:16, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am running Mac OS 10.7.1 and am stuck in a hang/loop in Preview. >> >> Whenever I try to exit Preview or close a Preview window I have a dialogue asking if I want to save the changes to file x. Whatever I choose (don't save, cancel, save) I cannot get out of this loop. I have to force quit Preview. >> >> If I select the window chooser wile Preview is the active window I see some 10 windows related to different unsaved Preview documents. Whichever one I choose I still cannot exit Preview. >> >> If I look at the Preview Windows menu I see that two windows are checked for display. That is probably a bug and may be the cause of my problems. If I try to look at the Preview preferences I go back to the save dialogue and again have to force quit Preview. >> >> SO how can I recover from this situation and make Preview usable again? I tried deleting all the Preview preferences in the LIbrary folder but that did not help. I have time machine and SuperDuper! backups but I don't want to reset my entire system to some earlier time before the above problem arose. I just want to reset Preview to an earlier time. >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions as to what I should do. >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sun Sep 4 17:50:49 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:50:49 +0100 Subject: Canon Drivers for the Mac Message-ID: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> Does anybody use Canon printers and scanners under Lion? I tried following a link for a printer driver for my IP 4300 but it said page not found. Another note on the Canon website said that none of the present printer drivers should be used as there was a compatibility problem with Lion. Currently only Snow Leopard is supported by Canon. I am slightly hesitant about this as the document I found had poor English and was obviously poorly translated. Apparently anybody using a current Canon driver will get only basic and limited functionality with their products. I do not know how basics is basic. They recommend waiting until Lion versions of drivers appear sometime in October. This is a long time to wait for to get access to a printer and scanner. Is anybody successfully using canon products under Lion? Regards David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Sep 4 18:15:36 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 18:15:36 +0100 Subject: Canon Drivers for the Mac In-Reply-To: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <2A74ED68-8994-4E19-89A3-E185943E60D0@hopewell.org.uk> Hello David, I am using a Cannon MP260 all in one printer /scanner on my iMac running Mac OS 10.7.1. It all works fine now but I did have problems finding the correct drivers. If you were using the MP260 I could send you the files but as you are not.... Paul Hopewell On 4 Sep 2011, at 17:50, David Griffith wrote: > Does anybody use Canon printers and scanners under Lion? I tried following a link for a printer driver for my IP 4300 but it said page not found. > Another note on the Canon website said that none of the present printer drivers should be used as there was a compatibility problem with Lion. Currently only Snow Leopard is supported by Canon. I am slightly hesitant about this as the document I found had poor English and was obviously poorly translated. Apparently anybody using a current Canon driver will get only basic and limited functionality with their products. I do not know how basics is basic. They recommend waiting until Lion versions of drivers appear sometime in October. This is a long time to wait for to get access to a printer and scanner. > > Is anybody successfully using canon products under Lion? > > Regards > David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From rattail4 at gmail.com Sun Sep 4 18:49:19 2011 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 13:49:19 -0400 Subject: Canon Drivers for the Mac In-Reply-To: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <1622DD8DC9144C269D46338EED260112@mquad> My GF found lion drivers for her cannon printer and scanner and from what she tells me they work very well. -------------------------------------------------- From: "David Griffith" Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 12:50 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Canon Drivers for the Mac > Does anybody use Canon printers and scanners under Lion? I tried > following a link for a printer driver for my IP 4300 but it said page not > found. > Another note on the Canon website said that none of the present printer > drivers should be used as there was a compatibility problem with Lion. > Currently only Snow Leopard is supported by Canon. I am slightly hesitant > about this as the document I found had poor English and was obviously > poorly translated. Apparently anybody using a current Canon driver will > get only basic and limited functionality with their products. I do not > know how basics is basic. They recommend waiting until Lion versions of > drivers appear sometime in October. This is a long time to wait for to get > access to a printer and scanner. > > Is anybody successfully using canon products under Lion? > > Regards > David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com Sun Sep 4 19:01:54 2011 From: jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com (Jonathan Tyrer) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 19:01:54 +0100 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: Maybe instead of being so bloody superior and laughing up your sleeves at the poor pled who isn?t lucky enough to be one of the chosen Dane, you should contact him and offer him some assistance. Then, he to can enjoy the benefits of what is most certainly an accessible and most excellent device. Jonathan On 04/09/2011, Dane Trethowan wrote: > I think i'd best make it clear again. > > Yep, of course the Apple TV is accessible and I would have been using 1 for > 10 months if it weren't, I was just quoting another message someone else > forwarded me from another list, thought some people may at least get a bit > of a laugh out of some of what was written. > > Yep, some of his points may - in all fairness regarding Itunes - may be > quite appropriate I just don't know but others are just way off the mark > such as those referring to TV'S for example where the author of the original > post talks about TV'S needing to have internet connectivity, mine doesn't > but even supposing if it did? I used my Apple TV without a television as a > companion for quite some time so you certainly don't need 1 to use the > device, an audio amp with an optical in will do just nicely. > > I've never used the mini uSB port as I've had no need to do so, was quite > able to register the Apple TV with it connected to my Wi-Fi network. > > I've heard of people jail breaking Apple TV devices but I ask the question > here, what on earth for? I must be missing something because they seem > feature packed enough to me as is, pity you can't browse a hard drive of > files and just play them, yep that would be nice so perhaps that's why > people jail break them. > > > > And now finally to the question of whether the Apple TV is perfect? Well > nothing is of course but given the work Apple has done on this device and > given the fact a blind person can drive one with ease and the fact that the > Apple TV doesn't have a hard drive as its competition does? Well this device > is nearing perfection indeed! in my opinion. > > On 04/09/2011, at 4:07 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > >> Further more, the apple tv doesn't even have a usb port! It has an >> ethernet port, an optical audio out port, and an HDMI port, oh and of >> course a power port! Your computer doesn't even come into the equation. >> I agree that having to use an hdmi port is kind of annoying, but only from >> the perspective that you may need sighted assistance to select the correct >> input channel! >> >> Vaughn. >> On 03/09/2011, at 10:18 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> The fact is that AppleTV is not inaccessible. Quite the contrary >>> actually. That doesn't make it perfect, don't get me wrong. I'm not >>> defending it just or even primarily because we happen to be mostly in >>> Apple's corner. In fact Dane, if you saw some of the things we've written >>> elsewhere recently regarding some aspects of Apple's operations you may >>> not make that assertion. I speak as I find; and I like most of what Apple >>> is doing. Most, but not all. >>> >>> For instance I happen to think that the way they've redesigned the new >>> Mac Mini is a huge mistake. Perhaps it was done for marketing purposes >>> but I simply can't understand why on earth they would want to prohibit >>> the user from going back to Snow Leopard, even as an interim step. But I >>> won't get back to that old discussion. All Im saying is that Gordon >>> doesn't have any issues with using the Apple TV and actually we use it >>> quite a lot. The AppleTV first generation was a different kettle of fish. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:58, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>> Some of the points in the message may be ballid, those concerning another >>> Screen Reader for example. >>> >>> Too quick to judge? Yep perhaps but there's a a load of miss-information >>> included here so a very bad source somewhere is being consulted. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Sep 4 19:06:38 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 14:06:38 -0400 Subject: Canon Drivers for the Mac In-Reply-To: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> Hi David, I use a MP 620 all in one Cannon Printer. Soon after I installed lyon Software update updated something about Cannon for me. It seems to be working fine but I don't use it much. Frankly, This is the last Cannon printer I'll buy. I find it very hard to keep it printing and I have a lot of trouble managing it from my keyboard. It often requires sighted help to read the screen on the printer. Settings must be adjusted there and I don't have a way of doing it from my keyboard. As a result I often find myself without a printer just when I need one. Eric Caron On Sep 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, David Griffith wrote: > Does anybody use Canon printers and scanners under Lion? I tried following a link for a printer driver for my IP 4300 but it said page not found. > Another note on the Canon website said that none of the present printer drivers should be used as there was a compatibility problem with Lion. Currently only Snow Leopard is supported by Canon. I am slightly hesitant about this as the document I found had poor English and was obviously poorly translated. Apparently anybody using a current Canon driver will get only basic and limited functionality with their products. I do not know how basics is basic. They recommend waiting until Lion versions of drivers appear sometime in October. This is a long time to wait for to get access to a printer and scanner. > > Is anybody successfully using canon products under Lion? > > Regards > David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sun Sep 4 19:30:30 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 04:30:30 +1000 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <4E63C3C6.6070800@internode.on.net> Ah, I think its well beyond that point now and I think you'd agree if you read his message, he's returned the Apple TV and thus made his statements . Other people from this list have done what I had planned to do, that is they've written to the original forum where the email about Apple TV had been posted and they've set the records straight about what the Apple TV offers in the way of accessibility thus avoiding any further confusion. On 5/09/2011 4:01 AM, Jonathan Tyrer wrote: > Maybe instead of being so bloody superior and laughing up your sleeves > at the poor pled who isn?t lucky enough to be one of the chosen Dane, > you should contact him and offer him some assistance. > > Then, he to can enjoy the benefits of what is most certainly an > accessible and most excellent device. > > Jonathan > > On 04/09/2011, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> I think i'd best make it clear again. >> >> Yep, of course the Apple TV is accessible and I would have been using 1 for >> 10 months if it weren't, I was just quoting another message someone else >> forwarded me from another list, thought some people may at least get a bit >> of a laugh out of some of what was written. >> >> Yep, some of his points may - in all fairness regarding Itunes - may be >> quite appropriate I just don't know but others are just way off the mark >> such as those referring to TV'S for example where the author of the original >> post talks about TV'S needing to have internet connectivity, mine doesn't >> but even supposing if it did? I used my Apple TV without a television as a >> companion for quite some time so you certainly don't need 1 to use the >> device, an audio amp with an optical in will do just nicely. >> >> I've never used the mini uSB port as I've had no need to do so, was quite >> able to register the Apple TV with it connected to my Wi-Fi network. >> >> I've heard of people jail breaking Apple TV devices but I ask the question >> here, what on earth for? I must be missing something because they seem >> feature packed enough to me as is, pity you can't browse a hard drive of >> files and just play them, yep that would be nice so perhaps that's why >> people jail break them. >> >> >> >> And now finally to the question of whether the Apple TV is perfect? Well >> nothing is of course but given the work Apple has done on this device and >> given the fact a blind person can drive one with ease and the fact that the >> Apple TV doesn't have a hard drive as its competition does? Well this device >> is nearing perfection indeed! in my opinion. >> >> On 04/09/2011, at 4:07 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote: >> >>> Further more, the apple tv doesn't even have a usb port! It has an >>> ethernet port, an optical audio out port, and an HDMI port, oh and of >>> course a power port! Your computer doesn't even come into the equation. >>> I agree that having to use an hdmi port is kind of annoying, but only from >>> the perspective that you may need sighted assistance to select the correct >>> input channel! >>> >>> Vaughn. >>> On 03/09/2011, at 10:18 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> The fact is that AppleTV is not inaccessible. Quite the contrary >>>> actually. That doesn't make it perfect, don't get me wrong. I'm not >>>> defending it just or even primarily because we happen to be mostly in >>>> Apple's corner. In fact Dane, if you saw some of the things we've written >>>> elsewhere recently regarding some aspects of Apple's operations you may >>>> not make that assertion. I speak as I find; and I like most of what Apple >>>> is doing. Most, but not all. >>>> >>>> For instance I happen to think that the way they've redesigned the new >>>> Mac Mini is a huge mistake. Perhaps it was done for marketing purposes >>>> but I simply can't understand why on earth they would want to prohibit >>>> the user from going back to Snow Leopard, even as an interim step. But I >>>> won't get back to that old discussion. All Im saying is that Gordon >>>> doesn't have any issues with using the Apple TV and actually we use it >>>> quite a lot. The AppleTV first generation was a different kettle of fish. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:58, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> >>>> Some of the points in the message may be ballid, those concerning another >>>> Screen Reader for example. >>>> >>>> Too quick to judge? Yep perhaps but there's a a load of miss-information >>>> included here so a very bad source somewhere is being consulted. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Dane Trethowan Sending email from his EEEPC Netbook From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Sep 4 19:36:05 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 14:36:05 -0400 Subject: Does VM fusion work with Lyon? Message-ID: dear List, I just took the plunge and purchased VM Fusion. I would love some help from some VM Fusion users. My first big concern is that I purchased VM Fusion 3.1 and as I read the documentation it says nothing about Lyon. Are people using VM Fusion 3.1 with Lyon and Windows 7? I got to a point in the installation where it says VM Tools were not installed and I should go to the VM machine menu and then VM tools. first when I went there it said cancel VM tools so I assumed it was installing and left it alone. Nothing changed but when I went back to the menu it now said update VM tools. I pressed that and it offered me the chance to install a install exe file. I went ahead and pressed it. I really don't know what to do next. For all I know everything could be working correctly and I just don't know how to enter the windows environment. I did the instal from Bootcamp hoping it would come up talking. I have entered my serial number for VM fusion but have not been asked yet for my windows key. I'd love some tips. I'm in a screen that has vm file Edit VM machine and such in the apple menu. on the screen there are buttons that say things like connect hard drive. and connect sound card. Tips on my next step would be greatly appreciated! I'm pretty sure all these questions are still on the mac side of things! Eric Caron From jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com Sun Sep 4 21:09:12 2011 From: jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com (Jonathan Tyrer) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 21:09:12 +0100 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: <4E63C3C6.6070800@internode.on.net> References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> <4E63C3C6.6070800@internode.on.net> Message-ID: OK then, it's his loss. Personally, I've not gotten an Apple TV yet, I have only managed an iPad, iPhone and Mac book pro so far. It is strange that most of his problems are to do with his lack of understanding of both the HD television and WiFi markets. i always mention to people that they need a computer to really benefit from having an Apple TV. That's not a critisism though - you need a cat if you buy cat food. JT On 04/09/2011, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Ah, I think its well beyond that point now and I think you'd agree if > you read his message, he's returned the Apple TV and thus made his > statements . > > Other people from this list have done what I had planned to do, that is > they've written to the original forum where the email about Apple TV had > been posted and they've set the records straight about what the Apple TV > offers in the way of accessibility thus avoiding any further confusion. > > > > On 5/09/2011 4:01 AM, Jonathan Tyrer wrote: >> Maybe instead of being so bloody superior and laughing up your sleeves >> at the poor pled who isn?t lucky enough to be one of the chosen Dane, >> you should contact him and offer him some assistance. >> >> Then, he to can enjoy the benefits of what is most certainly an >> accessible and most excellent device. >> >> Jonathan >> >> On 04/09/2011, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> I think i'd best make it clear again. >>> >>> Yep, of course the Apple TV is accessible and I would have been using 1 >>> for >>> 10 months if it weren't, I was just quoting another message someone else >>> forwarded me from another list, thought some people may at least get a >>> bit >>> of a laugh out of some of what was written. >>> >>> Yep, some of his points may - in all fairness regarding Itunes - may be >>> quite appropriate I just don't know but others are just way off the mark >>> such as those referring to TV'S for example where the author of the >>> original >>> post talks about TV'S needing to have internet connectivity, mine doesn't >>> but even supposing if it did? I used my Apple TV without a television as >>> a >>> companion for quite some time so you certainly don't need 1 to use the >>> device, an audio amp with an optical in will do just nicely. >>> >>> I've never used the mini uSB port as I've had no need to do so, was quite >>> able to register the Apple TV with it connected to my Wi-Fi network. >>> >>> I've heard of people jail breaking Apple TV devices but I ask the >>> question >>> here, what on earth for? I must be missing something because they seem >>> feature packed enough to me as is, pity you can't browse a hard drive of >>> files and just play them, yep that would be nice so perhaps that's why >>> people jail break them. >>> >>> >>> >>> And now finally to the question of whether the Apple TV is perfect? Well >>> nothing is of course but given the work Apple has done on this device and >>> given the fact a blind person can drive one with ease and the fact that >>> the >>> Apple TV doesn't have a hard drive as its competition does? Well this >>> device >>> is nearing perfection indeed! in my opinion. >>> >>> On 04/09/2011, at 4:07 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote: >>> >>>> Further more, the apple tv doesn't even have a usb port! It has an >>>> ethernet port, an optical audio out port, and an HDMI port, oh and of >>>> course a power port! Your computer doesn't even come into the equation. >>>> I agree that having to use an hdmi port is kind of annoying, but only >>>> from >>>> the perspective that you may need sighted assistance to select the >>>> correct >>>> input channel! >>>> >>>> Vaughn. >>>> On 03/09/2011, at 10:18 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> The fact is that AppleTV is not inaccessible. Quite the contrary >>>>> actually. That doesn't make it perfect, don't get me wrong. I'm not >>>>> defending it just or even primarily because we happen to be mostly in >>>>> Apple's corner. In fact Dane, if you saw some of the things we've >>>>> written >>>>> elsewhere recently regarding some aspects of Apple's operations you may >>>>> not make that assertion. I speak as I find; and I like most of what >>>>> Apple >>>>> is doing. Most, but not all. >>>>> >>>>> For instance I happen to think that the way they've redesigned the new >>>>> Mac Mini is a huge mistake. Perhaps it was done for marketing purposes >>>>> but I simply can't understand why on earth they would want to prohibit >>>>> the user from going back to Snow Leopard, even as an interim step. But >>>>> I >>>>> won't get back to that old discussion. All Im saying is that Gordon >>>>> doesn't have any issues with using the Apple TV and actually we use it >>>>> quite a lot. The AppleTV first generation was a different kettle of >>>>> fish. >>>>> >>>>> Lynne >>>>> >>>>> On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:58, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Some of the points in the message may be ballid, those concerning >>>>> another >>>>> Screen Reader for example. >>>>> >>>>> Too quick to judge? Yep perhaps but there's a a load of >>>>> miss-information >>>>> included here so a very bad source somewhere is being consulted. >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum >>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > -- > Dane Trethowan > Sending email from his EEEPC Netbook > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From n0oxy at charter.net Sun Sep 4 21:28:53 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 15:28:53 -0500 Subject: Does VM fusion work with Lyon? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <538BB8C0-7507-43A7-A699-D5B0270B3E20@charter.net> Yes, it works fine with lion, running windows 7 with it here. On Sep 4, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > dear List, > > I just took the plunge and purchased VM Fusion. I would love some help from some VM Fusion users. My first big concern is that I purchased VM Fusion 3.1 and as I read the documentation it says nothing about Lyon. Are people using VM Fusion 3.1 with Lyon and Windows 7? > > I got to a point in the installation where it says VM Tools were not installed and I should go to the VM machine menu and then VM tools. first when I went there it said cancel VM tools so I assumed it was installing and left it alone. Nothing changed but when I went back to the menu it now said update VM tools. I pressed that and it offered me the chance to install a install exe file. I went ahead and pressed it. > I really don't know what to do next. For all I know everything could be working correctly and I just don't know how to enter the windows environment. I did the instal from Bootcamp hoping it would come up talking. I have entered my serial number for VM fusion but have not been asked yet for my windows key. > > I'd love some tips. I'm in a screen that has vm file Edit VM machine and such in the apple menu. on the screen there are buttons that say things like connect hard drive. and connect sound card. > > Tips on my next step would be greatly appreciated! > > I'm pretty sure all these questions are still on the mac side of things! > > Eric Caron > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Sep 4 22:18:33 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:18:33 -0400 Subject: Does VM fusion work with Lyon? In-Reply-To: <538BB8C0-7507-43A7-A699-D5B0270B3E20@charter.net> References: <538BB8C0-7507-43A7-A699-D5B0270B3E20@charter.net> Message-ID: Thanks Mike, That is a relief! I was having trouble posting on some lists earlier and accidentally posted some questions on two different lists. sorry if any of that confusion happened here. I appreciate all VM fusion tips. One thing I never read anywhere that was very helpful is that because I am using the Apple USB extended keyboard with a num pad I do have a insert key available right off the bat. This is very helpful a s I am not as panicked about learning how to remap keys. Speaking of which can a VM Fusion app person tell me how to do that within VM Fusion? Eric Caron On Sep 4, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Yes, it works fine with lion, running windows 7 with it here. > On Sep 4, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> dear List, >> >> I just took the plunge and purchased VM Fusion. I would love some help from some VM Fusion users. My first big concern is that I purchased VM Fusion 3.1 and as I read the documentation it says nothing about Lyon. Are people using VM Fusion 3.1 with Lyon and Windows 7? >> >> I got to a point in the installation where it says VM Tools were not installed and I should go to the VM machine menu and then VM tools. first when I went there it said cancel VM tools so I assumed it was installing and left it alone. Nothing changed but when I went back to the menu it now said update VM tools. I pressed that and it offered me the chance to install a install exe file. I went ahead and pressed it. >> I really don't know what to do next. For all I know everything could be working correctly and I just don't know how to enter the windows environment. I did the instal from Bootcamp hoping it would come up talking. I have entered my serial number for VM fusion but have not been asked yet for my windows key. >> >> I'd love some tips. I'm in a screen that has vm file Edit VM machine and such in the apple menu. on the screen there are buttons that say things like connect hard drive. and connect sound card. >> >> Tips on my next step would be greatly appreciated! >> >> I'm pretty sure all these questions are still on the mac side of things! >> >> Eric Caron >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Sun Sep 4 23:18:47 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:18:47 +0100 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> hi all i have brought a macbook pro and want to ask if this should be happening when anything is plugged into it via electric the body of the machine vibrates as if there is a current running threw it. should this be happening or is it a fault. hope that people can help. many thanks jules smiley. From n0oxy at charter.net Sun Sep 4 23:23:12 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:23:12 -0500 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> There may be a slight vibration from the hard drive, or if the fan turns on, but certainly not the way you're describing it. On Sep 4, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: > hi all > > i have brought a macbook pro and want to ask if this should be happening when anything is plugged into it via electric the body of the machine vibrates as if there is a current running threw it. should this be happening or is it a fault. hope that people can help. > > many thanks jules smiley. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Sun Sep 4 23:26:18 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:26:18 +0100 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> Message-ID: <88074E06-34F0-4BC6-B4B1-637AB67734A0@virginmedia.com> that's cool would it be worth taking it in to n apple store and getting it looked at? jules smiley. From krbarry at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 00:37:05 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:37:05 -0400 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> Message-ID: <4e640ba3.c140340a.0160.5d25@mx.google.com> With the aluminum body of the MBP you shouldn't feel any vibration unless you mix it up with some personal devices of a different nature. I suspect something is horribly wrong with your example. At 06:23 PM 9/4/2011, you wrote: >There may be a slight vibration from the hard drive, or if the fan >turns on, but certainly not the way you're describing it. >On Sep 4, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: > > > hi all > > > > i have brought a macbook pro and want to ask if this should be > happening when anything is plugged into it via electric the body of > the machine vibrates as if there is a current running threw it. > should this be happening or is it a fault. hope that people can help. > > > > many thanks jules smiley. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From mfurness at bell.net Mon Sep 5 00:46:27 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 19:46:27 -0400 Subject: apple tv needing info please Message-ID: I have been following the thread and know that it is accessible. My question is 1. What does it do I do not have a tv, so everything we shall do is from our conputers. 2. If all I want to do is play music from my IMAC on my stereo, would my airport express do this? Thank you for all information Where should I go to retrieve any more information? The nearest Apple store is 1 hour drive away, and we don't drive Mark.. Mark,? The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. From motten53 at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 00:56:37 2011 From: motten53 at gmail.com (Mary Otten) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:56:37 -0700 Subject: apple tv needing info please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you don't have a tv, I don't see any value in purchasing an apple tv, since in order to enjoy services like netflix, you do need to have the apple tv connected to a tv, not just to a stereo, or it won't play movies. Or such has been my experience anyway. You can hook an airport express to a stereo. I have that set up here, and it works quite nicely to stream audio from ITunes or audio from other apps via the airfoil app that you can get from rogueamoeba software. Mary Mary Otten motten53 at gmail.com From chris at mysticplace.info Mon Sep 5 01:22:30 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 20:22:30 -0400 Subject: apple tv needing info please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110904202228.36B6.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Hi, The only video service I can't access without the tv turned on is netflix. On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:56:37 -0700 Mary Otten wrote: > If you don't have a tv, I don't see any value in purchasing an apple tv, since in order to enjoy services like netflix, you do need to have the apple tv connected to a tv, not just to a stereo, or it won't play movies. Or such has been my experience anyway. You can hook an airport express to a stereo. I have that set up here, and it works quite nicely to stream audio from ITunes or audio from other apps via the airfoil app that you can get from rogueamoeba software. > Mary > > Mary Otten > motten53 at gmail.com > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 02:27:46 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 20:27:46 -0500 Subject: copying audio cd's Message-ID: <68E0C8F886324021B1624E53EE5D7E37@joseph1> anyone know of a way to copy audio cd's to some form of compressed/image form? ya can't do it via disc utility... From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Sep 5 04:39:43 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 13:39:43 +1000 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> <4E63C3C6.6070800@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Couldn't have put it better myself. On 05/09/2011, at 6:09 AM, Jonathan Tyrer wrote: > OK then, it's his loss. Personally, I've not gotten an Apple TV yet, > I have only managed an iPad, iPhone and Mac book pro so far. > > It is strange that most of his problems are to do with his lack of > understanding of both the HD television and WiFi markets. i always > mention to people that they need a computer to really benefit from > having an Apple TV. That's not a critisism though - you need a cat if > you buy cat food. > > JT > > On 04/09/2011, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Ah, I think its well beyond that point now and I think you'd agree if >> you read his message, he's returned the Apple TV and thus made his >> statements . >> >> Other people from this list have done what I had planned to do, that is >> they've written to the original forum where the email about Apple TV had >> been posted and they've set the records straight about what the Apple TV >> offers in the way of accessibility thus avoiding any further confusion. >> >> >> >> On 5/09/2011 4:01 AM, Jonathan Tyrer wrote: >>> Maybe instead of being so bloody superior and laughing up your sleeves >>> at the poor pled who isn?t lucky enough to be one of the chosen Dane, >>> you should contact him and offer him some assistance. >>> >>> Then, he to can enjoy the benefits of what is most certainly an >>> accessible and most excellent device. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> On 04/09/2011, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> I think i'd best make it clear again. >>>> >>>> Yep, of course the Apple TV is accessible and I would have been using 1 >>>> for >>>> 10 months if it weren't, I was just quoting another message someone else >>>> forwarded me from another list, thought some people may at least get a >>>> bit >>>> of a laugh out of some of what was written. >>>> >>>> Yep, some of his points may - in all fairness regarding Itunes - may be >>>> quite appropriate I just don't know but others are just way off the mark >>>> such as those referring to TV'S for example where the author of the >>>> original >>>> post talks about TV'S needing to have internet connectivity, mine doesn't >>>> but even supposing if it did? I used my Apple TV without a television as >>>> a >>>> companion for quite some time so you certainly don't need 1 to use the >>>> device, an audio amp with an optical in will do just nicely. >>>> >>>> I've never used the mini uSB port as I've had no need to do so, was quite >>>> able to register the Apple TV with it connected to my Wi-Fi network. >>>> >>>> I've heard of people jail breaking Apple TV devices but I ask the >>>> question >>>> here, what on earth for? I must be missing something because they seem >>>> feature packed enough to me as is, pity you can't browse a hard drive of >>>> files and just play them, yep that would be nice so perhaps that's why >>>> people jail break them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> And now finally to the question of whether the Apple TV is perfect? Well >>>> nothing is of course but given the work Apple has done on this device and >>>> given the fact a blind person can drive one with ease and the fact that >>>> the >>>> Apple TV doesn't have a hard drive as its competition does? Well this >>>> device >>>> is nearing perfection indeed! in my opinion. >>>> >>>> On 04/09/2011, at 4:07 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote: >>>> >>>>> Further more, the apple tv doesn't even have a usb port! It has an >>>>> ethernet port, an optical audio out port, and an HDMI port, oh and of >>>>> course a power port! Your computer doesn't even come into the equation. >>>>> I agree that having to use an hdmi port is kind of annoying, but only >>>>> from >>>>> the perspective that you may need sighted assistance to select the >>>>> correct >>>>> input channel! >>>>> >>>>> Vaughn. >>>>> On 03/09/2011, at 10:18 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The fact is that AppleTV is not inaccessible. Quite the contrary >>>>>> actually. That doesn't make it perfect, don't get me wrong. I'm not >>>>>> defending it just or even primarily because we happen to be mostly in >>>>>> Apple's corner. In fact Dane, if you saw some of the things we've >>>>>> written >>>>>> elsewhere recently regarding some aspects of Apple's operations you may >>>>>> not make that assertion. I speak as I find; and I like most of what >>>>>> Apple >>>>>> is doing. Most, but not all. >>>>>> >>>>>> For instance I happen to think that the way they've redesigned the new >>>>>> Mac Mini is a huge mistake. Perhaps it was done for marketing purposes >>>>>> but I simply can't understand why on earth they would want to prohibit >>>>>> the user from going back to Snow Leopard, even as an interim step. But >>>>>> I >>>>>> won't get back to that old discussion. All Im saying is that Gordon >>>>>> doesn't have any issues with using the Apple TV and actually we use it >>>>>> quite a lot. The AppleTV first generation was a different kettle of >>>>>> fish. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lynne >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:58, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Some of the points in the message may be ballid, those concerning >>>>>> another >>>>>> Screen Reader for example. >>>>>> >>>>>> Too quick to judge? Yep perhaps but there's a a load of >>>>>> miss-information >>>>>> included here so a very bad source somewhere is being consulted. >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum >>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus >>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum >>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting >>>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at >>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> Sending email from his EEEPC Netbook >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Mon Sep 5 06:46:02 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 00:46:02 -0500 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: <88074E06-34F0-4BC6-B4B1-637AB67734A0@virginmedia.com> References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> <88074E06-34F0-4BC6-B4B1-637AB67734A0@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <9800B58F-BE19-49BE-969A-D2A91E5C5569@charter.net> Couldn't hurt to do that, especially if it's still under warranty. On Sep 4, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: > that's cool would it be worth taking it in to n apple store and getting it looked at? > > jules smiley. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Mon Sep 5 09:35:25 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 09:35:25 +0100 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: <9800B58F-BE19-49BE-969A-D2A91E5C5569@charter.net> References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> <88074E06-34F0-4BC6-B4B1-637AB67734A0@virginmedia.com> <9800B58F-BE19-49BE-969A-D2A91E5C5569@charter.net> Message-ID: hi no its not under warranty i brought it from ebay it works great just that one niggle if its anything jules On 5 Sep 2011, at 06:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Couldn't hurt to do that, especially if it's still under warranty. > On Sep 4, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> that's cool would it be worth taking it in to n apple store and getting it looked at? >> >> jules smiley. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 10:22:36 2011 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:22:36 +0200 Subject: More On 1 Password In-Reply-To: <0206A9EC-5002-424F-8794-01524166FEA2@internode.on.net> References: <0206A9EC-5002-424F-8794-01524166FEA2@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <410D2115-429C-47E8-A073-67FFD1FEF4CC@gmail.com> Hi Dane. THank you. I have contacted the developer through the forum, I was not aware of twitter, because I do not have an account. The developer has promised to fix the problems as soon as possible. The only thing that does not work now is the work around to login on a site, but I could see in the forum, that some other people also has the problem. I know roboform from the window site, maybe I will try it out. But as I remember my brother has tried it, and the problem is that you are storing your passwords online. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 2, 2011 kl. 1:09 AM skrev Dane Trethowan: > Hi! > > Sorry for the delayed response in regard to Anie's message about 1 Password and ways to contact the developer of same. > > Yep, I was aware of the 1 Password forum, indeed I pointed this out in an earlier post and Anie's right, the "feedback" link has gone but you can - as I have - write to the forum, the developers monitor that. > > I prefer to follow 1 Password on Twitter, that way I'm alerted to any changes in the application and can thus provide feedback where appropriate as anyone else can if they have Twitter and follow 1 Password . > > The software does seem to be a little odd with the Safari extension right now as I've pointed out earlier but that certainly doesn't mean that 1 Password is neither inaccessible or unusable as you'll see in the workarounds I've written to the list. > > If 1 Password is being unfriendly towards you? Well you can always try another Password manager and Roboform comes to mind, I'm told that Roboform for Safari on the Mac is accessible, I've not tried that but Roboform is certainly accessible on the Windows PC and other platforms. > > So once Roboform is installed you can "Export" all your password data from 1 Password and reimport it into Roboform. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Sep 5 10:30:02 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 19:30:02 +1000 Subject: More On 1 Password In-Reply-To: <410D2115-429C-47E8-A073-67FFD1FEF4CC@gmail.com> References: <0206A9EC-5002-424F-8794-01524166FEA2@internode.on.net> <410D2115-429C-47E8-A073-67FFD1FEF4CC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Funny you should write as I was about to send a new message to the list myself regarding 1 Password, another update was released a few hours ago and I can say that one of the "login" issues has been dealt with and I can certainly login to all my logins stored in 1 Password by using the "Go And Fill Login" shortcut from the 1 Password software, by default its command-option-return, works as it did in the older versions for Snow leopard, think someone else on this list was asking about this feature too! Just to summaries how this feature works again, open 1 Password and enter your "Master Password", focus will switch to the "Search" box, type the name of the login data you're looking for. Browse the table of results till you find the login you want - you'll need to do this if you have say more than one login for an acount or site - and then press command-option-return. 1 Password will launch Safari and fill in the "login" details for you, you will be logged onto the site etc. On 05/09/2011, at 7:22 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Dane. > > THank you. > > I have contacted the developer through the forum, I was not aware of twitter, because I do not have an account. > > The developer has promised to fix the problems as soon as possible. > > The only thing that does not work now is the work around to login on a site, but I could see in the forum, that some other people also has the problem. > > I know roboform from the window site, maybe I will try it out. But as I remember my brother has tried it, and the problem is that you are storing your passwords online. > > Best regards Annie. > Den Sep 2, 2011 kl. 1:09 AM skrev Dane Trethowan: > >> Hi! >> >> Sorry for the delayed response in regard to Anie's message about 1 Password and ways to contact the developer of same. >> >> Yep, I was aware of the 1 Password forum, indeed I pointed this out in an earlier post and Anie's right, the "feedback" link has gone but you can - as I have - write to the forum, the developers monitor that. >> >> I prefer to follow 1 Password on Twitter, that way I'm alerted to any changes in the application and can thus provide feedback where appropriate as anyone else can if they have Twitter and follow 1 Password . >> >> The software does seem to be a little odd with the Safari extension right now as I've pointed out earlier but that certainly doesn't mean that 1 Password is neither inaccessible or unusable as you'll see in the workarounds I've written to the list. >> >> If 1 Password is being unfriendly towards you? Well you can always try another Password manager and Roboform comes to mind, I'm told that Roboform for Safari on the Mac is accessible, I've not tried that but Roboform is certainly accessible on the Windows PC and other platforms. >> >> So once Roboform is installed you can "Export" all your password data from 1 Password and reimport it into Roboform. >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Mon Sep 5 12:19:41 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 12:19:41 +0100 Subject: bus stop ap for the i-phone Message-ID: <4e64af72.8c6ee30a.6083.ffff99f4@mx.google.com> does anyone know of an accessible app for the i-phone that detects bus stops which i could use as an extention to navigon or whatever you might call it? i don't appear to find navigon accurate when it comes to bus stops or it gives me too many messages when i arrive at my stop. From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Sep 5 13:22:07 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 13:22:07 +0100 Subject: IS the GPS on my iPhone failing? Message-ID: <3ACF0FF6-4B81-4806-BDBB-E60FF4FCD3C3@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I have an iPhone 3GS 16GB. Recently Navigon has been behaving very oddly. Using Direct Help my reported position leaps all over the place generally within 100 yards or so of where I am. If I look at options and GPS info my latitude and longitude are usually zero but sometimes contain plausible values. I have only noticed this since upgrading the iPhone to IOS 4.3.5a week or so ago but this may be coincidence. Are there any options I should check relating to the built-in GPS? Is there any way of testing the built-in GPS? Could weather conditions or other external events be relevant? I do have an external bluetooth GPS receiver which I used to use with Loadstone software on a Nokia phone. If the GPS in my iPhone is failing can I set up the iPhone to use the above external GPS instead? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Mon Sep 5 13:36:58 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 13:36:58 +0100 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> <88074E06-34F0-4BC6-B4B1-637AB67734A0@virginmedia.com> <9800B58F-BE19-49BE-969A-D2A91E5C5569@charter.net> Message-ID: Hi Jules. Does it still charge? If it does, I shouldn't worry too much, the thing you could try doing is getting another power adapter. If it still happens, but it is still charging, I wouldn't worry too much. Maybe there is a slight fault with the power supply in the machine, but because it's not under warranty, it would cost a lot to repair. Regards. Lewis :) On 5 Sep 2011, at 09:35, Julie Vaughan wrote: > hi > > no its not under warranty i brought it from ebay it works great just that one niggle if its anything > > jules > On 5 Sep 2011, at 06:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Couldn't hurt to do that, especially if it's still under warranty. >> On Sep 4, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: >> >>> that's cool would it be worth taking it in to n apple store and getting it looked at? >>> >>> jules smiley. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Sep 5 14:13:31 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 14:13:31 +0100 Subject: IS the GPS on my iPhone failing? In-Reply-To: <3ACF0FF6-4B81-4806-BDBB-E60FF4FCD3C3@hopewell.org.uk> References: <3ACF0FF6-4B81-4806-BDBB-E60FF4FCD3C3@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <260B7E30-43B9-49DC-BAF6-D6DD2D26077C@computing.dcu.ie> Hi Paul, I've noticed something similar. I've tried to use that app to do some in-car navigation and always, and I do mean always, I get the message that GPS is not available. Yet, other location-based apps work fine. D?nal On 5 Sep 2011, at 13:22, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I have an iPhone 3GS 16GB. Recently Navigon has been behaving very oddly. Using Direct Help my reported position leaps all over the place generally within 100 yards or so of where I am. If I look at options and GPS info my latitude and longitude are usually zero but sometimes contain plausible values. > > I have only noticed this since upgrading the iPhone to IOS 4.3.5a week or so ago but this may be coincidence. > > Are there any options I should check relating to the built-in GPS? Is there any way of testing the built-in GPS? Could weather conditions or other external events be relevant? > > I do have an external bluetooth GPS receiver which I used to use with Loadstone software on a Nokia phone. If the GPS in my iPhone is failing can I set up the iPhone to use the above external GPS instead? > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 14:48:31 2011 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 15:48:31 +0200 Subject: More On 1 Password In-Reply-To: References: <0206A9EC-5002-424F-8794-01524166FEA2@internode.on.net> <410D2115-429C-47E8-A073-67FFD1FEF4CC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <09BBF491-C345-49AE-ADDC-6AC8BCF772B3@gmail.com> Hi Dane. I have also got 1password to work on many sites. Now it is a little easier to login again. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 5, 2011 kl. 11:30 AM skrev Dane Trethowan: > Funny you should write as I was about to send a new message to the list myself regarding 1 Password, another update was released a few hours ago and I can say that one of the "login" issues has been dealt with and I can certainly login to all my logins stored in 1 Password by using the "Go And Fill Login" shortcut from the 1 Password software, by default its command-option-return, works as it did in the older versions for Snow leopard, think someone else on this list was asking about this feature too! > > Just to summaries how this feature works again, open 1 Password and enter your "Master Password", focus will switch to the "Search" box, type the name of the login data you're looking for. > > Browse the table of results till you find the login you want - you'll need to do this if you have say more than one login for an acount or site - and then press command-option-return. > > 1 Password will launch Safari and fill in the "login" details for you, you will be logged onto the site etc. > > > On 05/09/2011, at 7:22 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi Dane. >> >> THank you. >> >> I have contacted the developer through the forum, I was not aware of twitter, because I do not have an account. >> >> The developer has promised to fix the problems as soon as possible. >> >> The only thing that does not work now is the work around to login on a site, but I could see in the forum, that some other people also has the problem. >> >> I know roboform from the window site, maybe I will try it out. But as I remember my brother has tried it, and the problem is that you are storing your passwords online. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> Den Sep 2, 2011 kl. 1:09 AM skrev Dane Trethowan: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Sorry for the delayed response in regard to Anie's message about 1 Password and ways to contact the developer of same. >>> >>> Yep, I was aware of the 1 Password forum, indeed I pointed this out in an earlier post and Anie's right, the "feedback" link has gone but you can - as I have - write to the forum, the developers monitor that. >>> >>> I prefer to follow 1 Password on Twitter, that way I'm alerted to any changes in the application and can thus provide feedback where appropriate as anyone else can if they have Twitter and follow 1 Password . >>> >>> The software does seem to be a little odd with the Safari extension right now as I've pointed out earlier but that certainly doesn't mean that 1 Password is neither inaccessible or unusable as you'll see in the workarounds I've written to the list. >>> >>> If 1 Password is being unfriendly towards you? Well you can always try another Password manager and Roboform comes to mind, I'm told that Roboform for Safari on the Mac is accessible, I've not tried that but Roboform is certainly accessible on the Windows PC and other platforms. >>> >>> So once Roboform is installed you can "Export" all your password data from 1 Password and reimport it into Roboform. >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Sep 5 16:59:37 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:59:37 +0100 Subject: Magnification compatibility on OS X Message-ID: <714D9CD6-C3F8-4B0C-9DAB-E8DD179428F1@mac-access.net> Hi folks, I am preparing a quotation for my neighbour who is considering buying a Mac with related accessories. His situation is rather specialised, but I am curious to know if Zoom works with applications such as Microsoft Office please? he does have a Visual Impairment, but may be able to use the magnification with certain products. Thanks for any help TC :) James From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 17:06:47 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:06:47 -0500 Subject: bus stop ap for the i-phone References: <4e64af72.8c6ee30a.6083.ffff99f4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Michael, The answer will depend on your location and needs. If I read mail headers correctly, you posted from London. It does not appear that the nextbus site works outside North America, but perhaps you can find an equivalent. In areas served by NextBus, you can open a site in Safari and optionally place it on your home screen. When launched, it will list all stop names and predicted arrival times sorted by proximity from your present location. It won't tell you which corner the stop is on or its offset from the intersection, but I don't know of any apps that will. If you're looking for that level of detail you'd need to mark locations using an app such as Ariadne GPS. Since NextBus is likely not an option for you, I would suggest doing an app store search using your city combined with other search terms such as "public transit" or "bus". Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: michael weaver To: mac-access at mac-access.net Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:19 AM Subject: bus stop ap for the i-phone does anyone know of an accessible app for the i-phone that detects bus stops which i could use as an extention to navigon or whatever you might call it? i don't appear to find navigon accurate when it comes to bus stops or it gives me too many messages when i arrive at my stop. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 17:10:25 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:10:25 -0500 Subject: IS the GPS on my iPhone failing? References: <3ACF0FF6-4B81-4806-BDBB-E60FF4FCD3C3@hopewell.org.uk> <260B7E30-43B9-49DC-BAF6-D6DD2D26077C@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <11A6BAC601404827BB302736A2CD9A04@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> FWIW, I have ios 4.3.5 installed on my 3GS and am having no problems whatsoever with the current version of Navigon NorthAmerica (v 1.82). I can't imagine that the map disparity is a factor? Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: D?nal Fitzpatrick To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 8:13 AM Subject: Re: IS the GPS on my iPhone failing? Hi Paul, I've noticed something similar. I've tried to use that app to do some in-car navigation and always, and I do mean always, I get the message that GPS is not available. Yet, other location-based apps work fine. D?nal On 5 Sep 2011, at 13:22, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I have an iPhone 3GS 16GB. Recently Navigon has been behaving very oddly. Using Direct Help my reported position leaps all over the place generally within 100 yards or so of where I am. If I look at options and GPS info my latitude and longitude are usually zero but sometimes contain plausible values. > > I have only noticed this since upgrading the iPhone to IOS 4.3.5a week or so ago but this may be coincidence. > > Are there any options I should check relating to the built-in GPS? Is there any way of testing the built-in GPS? Could weather conditions or other external events be relevant? > > I do have an external bluetooth GPS receiver which I used to use with Loadstone software on a Nokia phone. If the GPS in my iPhone is failing can I set up the iPhone to use the above external GPS instead? > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 17:55:32 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 17:55:32 +0100 Subject: bus stop ap for the i-phone In-Reply-To: References: <4e64af72.8c6ee30a.6083.ffff99f4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <789667E7-1B6D-40CB-BD58-AA35F0D4536F@gmail.com> thing is though u still need to know in the end is this the bus i need so they not really useful imo On Sep 5, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Michael, > > The answer will depend on your location and needs. If I read mail headers correctly, you posted from London. It does not appear that the nextbus site works outside North America, but perhaps you can find an equivalent. In areas served by NextBus, you can open a site in Safari and optionally place it on your home screen. When launched, it will list all stop names and predicted arrival times sorted by proximity from your present location. It won't tell you which corner the stop is on or its offset from the intersection, but I don't know of any apps that will. If you're looking for that level of detail you'd need to mark locations using an app such as Ariadne GPS. > > Since NextBus is likely not an option for you, I would suggest doing an app store search using your city combined with other search terms such as "public transit" or "bus". > > Best regards. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: michael weaver > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:19 AM > Subject: bus stop ap for the i-phone > > > does anyone know of an accessible app for the i-phone that > detects bus stops which i could use as an extention to navigon or > whatever you might call it? > i don't appear to find navigon accurate when it comes to bus > stops or it gives me too many messages when i arrive at my stop. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Mon Sep 5 18:01:32 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 13:01:32 -0400 Subject: Magnification compatibility on OS X In-Reply-To: <714D9CD6-C3F8-4B0C-9DAB-E8DD179428F1@mac-access.net> References: <714D9CD6-C3F8-4B0C-9DAB-E8DD179428F1@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <664C845E-464F-4EEA-B909-1EC63114936B@me.com> Hello James, My first thought is that perhaps your neighbor could provide us with a list of the current magnification utilities and features they are using or that they desire to use, and then those of us who have used Zoom could compare and contrast the features. Do you think that'd be possible? Generally speaking, Zoom has settings that allow for limited customization such as max and min zoom levels, zoom increments, behavior of the zoomed screen while navigating, etc. There's also an option to magnify just a selected area of the screen and there's a way to magnify whatever is under the mouse cursor, but I've not tried those features. Whenever I use zoom I always combine it with the option to reverse the screen colors, aka "White on Black." While I've never used a third party magnifying or color-toggling utility on any other OS, I've heard from some folks that Apple's implementation of this color reversing feature is less than optimal because it reverses everything on the screen including graphic images, which apparently is not the case with some utilities available on other platforms. Regardless, as with VO these features are free in the MacOS and can quickly be toggled on and off. With regard to which applications will work with Zoom, in my experience Zoom magnifies the entire screen regardless of which Applications are running. I had a trial of MS Office 2011 running on SL for a few weeks while testing it for VO access, and I didn't have any problems using Zoom to magnify the various MS Office applications. I can't imagine that it would not work the same way under Lion. I imagine you've already shared the information provided by Apple but if not, here's a link to Apple's US page giving an overview of the features designed to assist with seeing in Lion. http://www.apple.com/accessibility/macosx/vision.html HTH, Bryan On Sep 5, 2011, at 11:59 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > I am preparing a quotation for my neighbour who is considering buying a Mac with related accessories. His situation is rather specialised, but I am curious to know if Zoom works with applications such as Microsoft Office please? he does have a Visual Impairment, but may be able to use the magnification with certain products. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Sep 5 19:01:24 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 19:01:24 +0100 Subject: numbers 09 and styles Message-ID: Hi all, I'm trying to prepare a timetable using numbers 09. Each day should be a heading 1. How can I achieve this using Numbers 09? In other words, is there a way to mark a specific cell as a heading 1, or heading 2 etc. D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From moriond at mac.com Mon Sep 5 19:42:49 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:49 -1000 Subject: IS the GPS on my iPhone failing? In-Reply-To: <11A6BAC601404827BB302736A2CD9A04@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <3ACF0FF6-4B81-4806-BDBB-E60FF4FCD3C3@hopewell.org.uk> <260B7E30-43B9-49DC-BAF6-D6DD2D26077C@computing.dcu.ie> <11A6BAC601404827BB302736A2CD9A04@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <8A2CD571-D2A7-468E-A7E4-C5EE719A4FCE@mac.com> Hello Paul, D?nal, and Geoff, I did a Google search and found a recent (August 28, 2011) question and answer on this topic of "iPhone: Problems with GPS" on their customer support pages: The first part describes the normal advice about checking for recent software updates, and making sure that under Settings > Location Services the switch to enable this for Navigon is set to on. The instructions beyond that are to either try a soft reset, or a hard reset: If you still have problems with the GPS reception, please do the following steps (A, B): A. Perform a soft-reset in order to restart the iPhone. Information: Your saved data and information will not be deleted during this procedure. Apple describes the process as follows: 1. Hold the standby button (the On/Off Button on the top right side of the iPhone) and at the same time the HOME button for at least 10 seconds until the Apple-Logo appears. 2. Afterwards, the iPhone will reboot again. B. Perform a reset. (This step is only necessary, if the soft-reset does not help to solve the GPS problem). 1. You can find the necessary instructions here. (Link to supplied) If you still have problems with the GPS signal after performing the soft-reset and the reset, then it is possible that the hardware is defective. In this case please contact the store in which you purchased your device. The hard reset is part of the Navigon FAQ, and Anna Dresner (on another list) was able to sort her GPS problems with the Navigon app on her iPhone 3GS by doing this. I don't have any experience with having to do this myself. I'll excerpt the instructions for the hard reset: What can I do to improve the GPS-Signal of my iPhone? Answer: During the following process the memory of your iPhone will be reorganized. This will have a positive effect on the quality of the GPS reception. The internal memory will be deleted completely during this reorganization. Therefore it is necessary to make a backup of the software (as described in step 1). 1. Please connect your iPhone to iTunes and synchronize it. Then right click on the iPhone icon (in the left menu bar of iTunes) and choose "backup". iTunes will now create a complete backup of your iPhone content and settings. 2. Disconnect your iPhone from the computer and connect it to the power supply. 3. Choose "Settings" - "General" - "Reset". 4. Choose "Erase content and settings" and confirm the deletion. 5. The following erasing procedure can take up to two hours and more, depending on the model and storage capacity of your iPhone . 6. After the procedure has finished, please connect the iPhone to your computer again. 7. Now restore your content and settings to your iPhone using the previously created backup. This is a backup and restore. I have done this once on my device, but not for Navigon, rather as part of recovering from a problematic app download that seemed to crash my device. It's possible that this is analogous to restoring contents to a clean disk, where programs are contiguous, and optimized in performance. In practice, I don't believe the time takes ups to two hours -- this is probably set by the length of time required to do an iTunes backup, in the cases where you have lots of additional metadata content within apps. So if your iPhone backups don't take over an hour, it's likely that this process won't take that long, either. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 5, 2011, at 06:10, Geoff Waaler wrote: > FWIW, I have ios 4.3.5 installed on my 3GS and am having no problems whatsoever with the current version of Navigon NorthAmerica (v 1.82). I can't imagine that the map disparity is a factor? > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: D?nal Fitzpatrick > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 8:13 AM > Subject: Re: IS the GPS on my iPhone failing? > > > Hi Paul, > > I've noticed something similar. I've tried to use that app to do some in-car navigation and always, and I do mean always, I get the message that GPS is not available. Yet, other location-based apps work fine. > > D?nal > On 5 Sep 2011, at 13:22, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I have an iPhone 3GS 16GB. Recently Navigon has been behaving very oddly. Using Direct Help my reported position leaps all over the place generally within 100 yards or so of where I am. If I look at options and GPS info my latitude and longitude are usually zero but sometimes contain plausible values. >> >> I have only noticed this since upgrading the iPhone to IOS 4.3.5a week or so ago but this may be coincidence. >> >> Are there any options I should check relating to the built-in GPS? Is there any way of testing the built-in GPS? Could weather conditions or other external events be relevant? >> >> I do have an external bluetooth GPS receiver which I used to use with Loadstone software on a Nokia phone. If the GPS in my iPhone is failing can I set up the iPhone to use the above external GPS instead? >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell > > > > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Sep 5 19:48:07 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 19:48:07 +0100 Subject: IS the GPS on my iPhone failing? In-Reply-To: <8A2CD571-D2A7-468E-A7E4-C5EE719A4FCE@mac.com> References: <3ACF0FF6-4B81-4806-BDBB-E60FF4FCD3C3@hopewell.org.uk> <260B7E30-43B9-49DC-BAF6-D6DD2D26077C@computing.dcu.ie> <11A6BAC601404827BB302736A2CD9A04@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <8A2CD571-D2A7-468E-A7E4-C5EE719A4FCE@mac.com> Message-ID: Thanks Esther, I'd seen this but hadn't done the hard reset because I wasn't in a position to backup the phone. The soft reset didn't work for me however. I should say that this isn't actually a recent phenonenon for me. In fact, since I bought Navagon I have periodically encountered this problem. Then I stop using it for several months, update to the new version and all seems well. Hey ho, I might just need an excuse to buy a new phone, and this could be it. D?nal On 5 Sep 2011, at 19:42, Esther wrote: > Hello Paul, D?nal, and Geoff, > > I did a Google search and found a recent (August 28, 2011) question and answer on this topic of "iPhone: Problems with GPS" on their customer support pages: > > The first part describes the normal advice about checking for recent software updates, and making sure that under Settings > Location Services the switch to enable this for Navigon is set to on. > > The instructions beyond that are to either try a soft reset, or a hard reset: > > If you still have problems with the GPS reception, please do the following steps (A, B): > > A. Perform a soft-reset in order to restart the iPhone. > > Information: Your saved data and information will not be deleted during this procedure. Apple describes the process as follows: > > 1. Hold the standby button (the On/Off Button on the top right side of > the iPhone) and at the same time the HOME button for at least > 10 seconds until the Apple-Logo appears. > > 2. Afterwards, the iPhone will reboot again. > > B. Perform a reset. > (This step is only necessary, if the soft-reset does not help > to solve the GPS problem). > > 1. You can find the necessary instructions here. (Link to supplied) > > If you still have problems with the GPS signal after performing the soft-reset and the reset, then it is possible that the hardware is defective. In this case please contact the store in which you purchased your device. > > > The hard reset is part of the Navigon FAQ, and Anna Dresner (on another list) was able to sort her GPS problems with the Navigon app on her iPhone 3GS by doing this. I don't have any experience with having to do this myself. I'll excerpt the instructions for the hard reset: > > What can I do to improve the GPS-Signal of my iPhone? > Answer: > During the following process the memory of your iPhone will be reorganized. This will have a positive effect on the quality of the GPS reception. The internal memory will be deleted completely during this reorganization. Therefore it is necessary to make a backup of the software (as described in step 1). > > 1. Please connect your iPhone to iTunes and synchronize it. Then right click > on the iPhone icon (in the left menu bar of iTunes) and choose "backup". > iTunes will now create a complete backup of your iPhone content and > settings. > > 2. Disconnect your iPhone from the computer and connect it to the > power supply. > > 3. Choose "Settings" - "General" - "Reset". > > 4. Choose "Erase content and settings" and confirm the deletion. > > 5. The following erasing procedure can take up to two hours and more, > depending on the model and storage capacity of your iPhone . > > 6. After the procedure has finished, please connect the iPhone to your > computer again. > > 7. Now restore your content and settings to your iPhone > using the previously created backup. > > > > This is a backup and restore. I have done this once on my device, but not for Navigon, rather as part of recovering from a problematic app download that seemed to crash my device. It's possible that this is analogous to restoring contents to a clean disk, where programs are contiguous, and optimized in performance. In practice, I don't believe the time takes ups to two hours -- this is probably set by the length of time required to do an iTunes backup, in the cases where you have lots of additional metadata content within apps. So if your iPhone backups don't take over an hour, it's likely that this process won't take that long, either. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Sep 5, 2011, at 06:10, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> FWIW, I have ios 4.3.5 installed on my 3GS and am having no problems whatsoever with the current version of Navigon NorthAmerica (v 1.82). I can't imagine that the map disparity is a factor? >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: D?nal Fitzpatrick >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 8:13 AM >> Subject: Re: IS the GPS on my iPhone failing? >> >> >> Hi Paul, >> >> I've noticed something similar. I've tried to use that app to do some in-car navigation and always, and I do mean always, I get the message that GPS is not available. Yet, other location-based apps work fine. >> >> D?nal >> On 5 Sep 2011, at 13:22, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I have an iPhone 3GS 16GB. Recently Navigon has been behaving very oddly. Using Direct Help my reported position leaps all over the place generally within 100 yards or so of where I am. If I look at options and GPS info my latitude and longitude are usually zero but sometimes contain plausible values. >>> >>> I have only noticed this since upgrading the iPhone to IOS 4.3.5a week or so ago but this may be coincidence. >>> >>> Are there any options I should check relating to the built-in GPS? Is there any way of testing the built-in GPS? Could weather conditions or other external events be relevant? >>> >>> I do have an external bluetooth GPS receiver which I used to use with Loadstone software on a Nokia phone. If the GPS in my iPhone is failing can I set up the iPhone to use the above external GPS instead? >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >> >> >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Mon Sep 5 19:56:27 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 19:56:27 +0100 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> <88074E06-34F0-4BC6-B4B1-637AB67734A0@virginmedia.com> <9800B58F-BE19-49BE-969A-D2A91E5C5569@charter.net> Message-ID: yes lew it does charge fine and it also happens when the external hard drive is in so any time its connected to the electric supply, if that makes sense jules :) On 5 Sep 2011, at 13:36, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Jules. > > Does it still charge? If it does, I shouldn't worry too much, the thing you could try doing is getting another power adapter. > If it still happens, but it is still charging, I wouldn't worry too much. Maybe there is a slight fault with the power supply in the machine, but because it's not under warranty, it would cost a lot to repair. > Regards. > Lewis :) > > > On 5 Sep 2011, at 09:35, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> hi >> >> no its not under warranty i brought it from ebay it works great just that one niggle if its anything >> >> jules >> On 5 Sep 2011, at 06:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> Couldn't hurt to do that, especially if it's still under warranty. >>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>> >>>> that's cool would it be worth taking it in to n apple store and getting it looked at? >>>> >>>> jules smiley. >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Mon Sep 5 20:57:21 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 20:57:21 +0100 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> <88074E06-34F0-4BC6-B4B1-637AB67734A0@virginmedia.com> <9800B58F-BE19-49BE-969A-D2A91E5C5569@charter.net> Message-ID: <9C4709A3-5747-46C3-BB97-FFF21A06544E@googlemail.com> Hey Jules. Yeah I know what you mean, well it can't be a dodgy power supply as it doesn't happen on battery. I'd say don't worry about it for now, but if you do manage to buy Apple Care Protection for your Macbook then just get it checked. Lewis :) On 5 Sep 2011, at 19:56, Julie Vaughan wrote: > yes lew it does charge fine and it also happens when the external hard drive is in so any time its connected to the electric supply, if that makes sense > > jules :) > On 5 Sep 2011, at 13:36, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> Hi Jules. >> >> Does it still charge? If it does, I shouldn't worry too much, the thing you could try doing is getting another power adapter. >> If it still happens, but it is still charging, I wouldn't worry too much. Maybe there is a slight fault with the power supply in the machine, but because it's not under warranty, it would cost a lot to repair. >> Regards. >> Lewis :) >> >> >> On 5 Sep 2011, at 09:35, Julie Vaughan wrote: >> >>> hi >>> >>> no its not under warranty i brought it from ebay it works great just that one niggle if its anything >>> >>> jules >>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 06:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> >>>> Couldn't hurt to do that, especially if it's still under warranty. >>>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>>> >>>>> that's cool would it be worth taking it in to n apple store and getting it looked at? >>>>> >>>>> jules smiley. >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Mon Sep 5 21:35:08 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:35:08 +0100 Subject: Canon Drivers for the Mac In-Reply-To: <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <729683.70699.qm@smtp823.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In the event I saw a page on the apple web site where they said that they provided third party drivers for many canon printers in Lion. I plugged my printer in tonight and Lion instantly downloaded some drivers for the printer so it seems all is well. Lion has not picked up my scanner though. Regards David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron Sent: 04 September 2011 19:07 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Canon Drivers for the Mac Hi David, I use a MP 620 all in one Cannon Printer. Soon after I installed lyon Software update updated something about Cannon for me. It seems to be working fine but I don't use it much. Frankly, This is the last Cannon printer I'll buy. I find it very hard to keep it printing and I have a lot of trouble managing it from my keyboard. It often requires sighted help to read the screen on the printer. Settings must be adjusted there and I don't have a way of doing it from my keyboard. As a result I often find myself without a printer just when I need one. Eric Caron On Sep 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, David Griffith wrote: > Does anybody use Canon printers and scanners under Lion? I tried following a link for a printer driver for my IP 4300 but it said page not found. > Another note on the Canon website said that none of the present printer drivers should be used as there was a compatibility problem with Lion. Currently only Snow Leopard is supported by Canon. I am slightly hesitant about this as the document I found had poor English and was obviously poorly translated. Apparently anybody using a current Canon driver will get only basic and limited functionality with their products. I do not know how basics is basic. They recommend waiting until Lion versions of drivers appear sometime in October. This is a long time to wait for to get access to a printer and scanner. > > Is anybody successfully using canon products under Lion? > > Regards > David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6438 (20110905) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6439 (20110905) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Mon Sep 5 22:41:27 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 22:41:27 +0100 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: <9C4709A3-5747-46C3-BB97-FFF21A06544E@googlemail.com> References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> <88074E06-34F0-4BC6-B4B1-637AB67734A0@virginmedia.com> <9800B58F-BE19-49BE-969A-D2A91E5C5569@charter.net> <9C4709A3-5747-46C3-BB97-FFF21A06544E@googlemail.com> Message-ID: hi lew i went on the apple site last night and i can not buy apple care as you have to purchase it within the year of having your device so thats not gonna be an option :( any suggestions unless any other people have any ??? thanks lew and the machine is fine apart from that i wonder how much it would cost if it needed fixing ? jules On 5 Sep 2011, at 20:57, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hey Jules. > > Yeah I know what you mean, well it can't be a dodgy power supply as it doesn't happen on battery. > > I'd say don't worry about it for now, but if you do manage to buy Apple Care Protection for your Macbook then just get it checked. > Lewis :) > On 5 Sep 2011, at 19:56, Julie Vaughan wrote: > >> yes lew it does charge fine and it also happens when the external hard drive is in so any time its connected to the electric supply, if that makes sense >> >> jules :) >> On 5 Sep 2011, at 13:36, Lewis Crack wrote: >> >>> Hi Jules. >>> >>> Does it still charge? If it does, I shouldn't worry too much, the thing you could try doing is getting another power adapter. >>> If it still happens, but it is still charging, I wouldn't worry too much. Maybe there is a slight fault with the power supply in the machine, but because it's not under warranty, it would cost a lot to repair. >>> Regards. >>> Lewis :) >>> >>> >>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 09:35, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>> >>>> hi >>>> >>>> no its not under warranty i brought it from ebay it works great just that one niggle if its anything >>>> >>>> jules >>>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 06:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>> >>>>> Couldn't hurt to do that, especially if it's still under warranty. >>>>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> that's cool would it be worth taking it in to n apple store and getting it looked at? >>>>>> >>>>>> jules smiley. >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Sep 5 22:54:31 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 11:54:31 -1000 Subject: Magnification compatibility on OS X In-Reply-To: <664C845E-464F-4EEA-B909-1EC63114936B@me.com> References: <714D9CD6-C3F8-4B0C-9DAB-E8DD179428F1@mac-access.net> <664C845E-464F-4EEA-B909-1EC63114936B@me.com> Message-ID: Hello James and Bryan, I'm not really in a position to comment on low vision use of the Mac, but I know there is a freeware program called Nocturne that will invert your screen, and also remove your desktop background: http://docs.blacktree.com/ And there is also a shareware program called Black Light ($9) that will invert screen colors: http://michelf.com/projects/black-light/ According to the macupdate page (from which you can also download these apps -- just Google the name along with "macupdate" to find the links), the Nocturne 2.0 release is from January 20, 2011. Here's the description: Source: Nocturne is (yet another) simple app for switching a computer to night vision mode. It does, however, add a few things: ? Proper color correction in monochrome modes - you don't lose all your blues or reds when you tint the screen. ? Window shadow toggling - if glowing windows aren't your thing. ? Background removal - hide the desktop picture so you don't see a inverted version. These later additions to handle color tints may answer some of the points that Bryan raised, although I'm not sure about Lion compatibility. Nocturne has open source code, so could be compiled again for Lion, I think. Another possibly relevant point: if you go back to my posts from the end of February about the Readability bookmarklet in the list archives, you'll note that this provides a Safari web browse option that can provide color inversion on text, along with large fonts and wide margins, without inverting the colors of images. This always struck me as a great feature for low vision users. First, the normal way that zooming operates on the Mac, requires you to pan the with your cursor. (For mild zoom, on machines owned by older relatives, I set the screen image to move only when the pointer reaches an edge.) So being able to have both larger fonts and wider browser margins in the Readability bookmarklet, as well as inverted colors on the text, can be quite useful. For Bryan and others who joined this list after these posts, the original topic came up when Lynne commented that some web sites were very hard to read on iOS devices even for users who were not visually impaired, due to the small font sizes. The discussion moved on to bookmarklets that could increase font sizes of text on web pages -- either by tapping the bookmarklet on an iPad's Bookmarks Bar, or by using the Command+1, 2, etc. shortcut in Safari on Mac computers to activate the 1st, 2nd, etc. bookmarks on the Bookmarks Bar. Then we mentioned the "Readability" bookmarklet that also strips irrelevant text and images (like ads) from the page content. This was based on the "Instapaper" web page and iOS app implementations that were meant to supply "distraction free reading" -- meaning optimizing the experience of reading the text, and eliminating unrelated visuals, like ads, and unrelated page content. If some of this sounds like Safari Reader, where (under Snow Leopard) you press Command-Shift-R to get a view like this, it's because Apple borrowed an earlier version of the algorithm and incorporated it into Safari. But the lab.arc90.com experiment that gave rise to the "Readability" bookmarklet also let users customize the font size, width of text margins, and whether to use an inverted color scheme as part of the bookmarklet design, and these can be very useful features for low vision users. While there is also a "Readability" Safari extension now, it's less convenient to use, since it requires an additional navigation step to the toolbar to access, and it can't be used on iOS devices in their bookmarks. Also, configuring the extension for font and margin sizes, and color inversion, is slightly less accessible with VoiceOver. (I suppose this doesn't matter if you're a low vision user and relying on sight). The original "Readability" bookmarklet page in English has accessibility issues, so the posts give directions on how to set this up using the Spanish lab.arc90.com web pages for the bookmarklet. This bookmarklet will also work as a reader on pages that Safari Reader does not support, because the algorithm is more advanced. For those interested in the thread, you can find the posts in the archive list for February 2011 by "subject", at the first linked post: "Readability" in Safari [was Web Pages in Mobile iOS Browsers]: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/2011-February/009469.html If you activate the links for "Previous message", you can also read the earlier discussion on bookmarklets to increase font size, and how they work. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 5, 2011, at 07:01, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello James, > > My first thought is that perhaps your neighbor could provide us with a list of the current magnification utilities and features they are using or that they desire to use, and then those of us who have used Zoom could compare and contrast the features. Do you think that'd be possible? > > Generally speaking, Zoom has settings that allow for limited customization such as max and min zoom levels, zoom increments, behavior of the zoomed screen while navigating, etc. There's also an option to magnify just a selected area of the screen and there's a way to magnify whatever is under the mouse cursor, but I've not tried those features. > > Whenever I use zoom I always combine it with the option to reverse the screen colors, aka "White on Black." While I've never used a third party magnifying or color-toggling utility on any other OS, I've heard from some folks that Apple's implementation of this color reversing feature is less than optimal because it reverses everything on the screen including graphic images, which apparently is not the case with some utilities available on other platforms. Regardless, as with VO these features are free in the MacOS and can quickly be toggled on and off. > > With regard to which applications will work with Zoom, in my experience Zoom magnifies the entire screen regardless of which Applications are running. I had a trial of MS Office 2011 running on SL for a few weeks while testing it for VO access, and I didn't have any problems using Zoom to magnify the various MS Office applications. I can't imagine that it would not work the same way under Lion. > > I imagine you've already shared the information provided by Apple but if not, here's a link to Apple's US page giving an overview of the features designed to assist with seeing in Lion. > http://www.apple.com/accessibility/macosx/vision.html > > HTH, > Bryan > > On Sep 5, 2011, at 11:59 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> I am preparing a quotation for my neighbour who is considering buying a Mac with related accessories. His situation is rather specialised, but I am curious to know if Zoom works with applications such as Microsoft Office please? he does have a Visual Impairment, but may be able to use the magnification with certain products. > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Mon Sep 5 23:29:16 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 00:29:16 +0200 Subject: numbers 09 and styles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <321C37A1-65EC-42EF-ABA2-C255E9686E34@anarchie.org.uk> Hello D?nal, On 5 Sep 2011, at 20:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > I'm trying to prepare a timetable using numbers 09. Each day should be a heading 1. How can I achieve this using Numbers 09? In other words, is there a way to mark a specific cell as a heading 1, or heading 2 etc. > Not as far as I know. It seems that you have to apply the style to a row. Numbers doesn't appear to have heading styles as such, it has table styles. If it would help, contact me off list and we'll see what we can work out. Cheers, Anne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Sep 5 23:35:45 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 23:35:45 +0100 Subject: numbers 09 and styles In-Reply-To: <321C37A1-65EC-42EF-ABA2-C255E9686E34@anarchie.org.uk> References: <321C37A1-65EC-42EF-ABA2-C255E9686E34@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <70557743-7B7A-40BB-B5A2-AF81F7E8E12A@computing.dcu.ie> Glad to hear you say that Anne, because this is what it looked like to me and I thought I was loosing it. It's not a big problem, I just increased font size and emboldened things a bit to achieve the same effect. Of course, if any of my students did this in a web-design assignment they'd fail, but then I'm not a student and not trying to pass exams. "do what I say" not "do what I do", eh? *smile* Will chat to you off-list about this though. Cheers D?nal On 5 Sep 2011, at 23:29, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello D?nal, > > On 5 Sep 2011, at 20:01, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> >> I'm trying to prepare a timetable using numbers 09. Each day should be a heading 1. How can I achieve this using Numbers 09? In other words, is there a way to mark a specific cell as a heading 1, or heading 2 etc. >> > Not as far as I know. It seems that you have to apply the style to a row. Numbers doesn't appear to have heading styles as such, it has table styles. > > If it would help, contact me off list and we'll see what we can work out. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From joncohn at cox.net Mon Sep 5 23:38:20 2011 From: joncohn at cox.net (Jon Cohn) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:38:20 -0400 Subject: Canon Drivers for the Mac In-Reply-To: <729683.70699.qm@smtp823.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <729683.70699.qm@smtp823.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I believe with Snow Leopard, the scanner drivers were not downloaded until I clicked on add a scanner in the printers and scanners system preferences panel. So give that a try... Jonathan On Sep 5, 2011, at 4:35 PM, David Griffith wrote: > In the event I saw a page on the apple web site where they said that they > provided third party drivers for many canon printers in Lion. I plugged my > printer in tonight and Lion instantly downloaded some drivers for the > printer so it seems all is well. > > Lion has not picked up my scanner though. > Regards > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron > Sent: 04 September 2011 19:07 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Canon Drivers for the Mac > > Hi David, > > I use a MP 620 all in one Cannon Printer. Soon after I installed > lyon Software update updated something about Cannon for me. It seems to be > working fine but I don't use it much. > > Frankly, This is the last Cannon printer I'll buy. I find it very hard to > keep it printing and I have a lot of trouble managing it from my keyboard. > It often requires sighted help to read the screen on the printer. Settings > must be adjusted there and I don't have a way of doing it from my keyboard. > As a result I often find myself without a printer just when I need one. > > > > Eric Caron > > On Sep 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, David Griffith wrote: > >> Does anybody use Canon printers and scanners under Lion? I tried > following a link for a printer driver for my IP 4300 but it said page not > found. >> Another note on the Canon website said that none of the present printer > drivers should be used as there was a compatibility problem with Lion. > Currently only Snow Leopard is supported by Canon. I am slightly hesitant > about this as the document I found had poor English and was obviously poorly > translated. Apparently anybody using a current Canon driver will get only > basic and limited functionality with their products. I do not know how > basics is basic. They recommend waiting until Lion versions of drivers > appear sometime in October. This is a long time to wait for to get access to > a printer and scanner. >> >> Is anybody successfully using canon products under Lion? >> >> Regards >> David Griffith >> d.griffith at btinternet.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 6438 (20110905) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 6439 (20110905) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gat.access at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 23:42:59 2011 From: gat.access at gmail.com (Garry Turkington) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 23:42:59 +0100 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> <88074E06-34F0-4BC6-B4B1-637AB67734A0@virginmedia.com> <9800B58F-BE19-49BE-969A-D2A91E5C5569@charter.net> <9C4709A3-5747-46C3-BB97-FFF21A06544E@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi, We've had 2 aluminium MacBook Pros and I could feel a very slight vibration on both if I touched the lid when it was closed and the power cable attached. So if it is incredibly subtle this may be the same phenomena. However, its never good to be cavalier about electrical issues so if you have concerns a visit to the nearest Apple Store (if you have one nearby) may not hurt. Garry On 9/5/11, Julie Vaughan wrote: > hi lew > > i went on the apple site last night and i can not buy apple care as you have > to purchase it within the year of having your device so thats not gonna be > an option :( > > any suggestions unless any other people have any ??? > > thanks lew and the machine is fine apart from that i wonder how much it > would cost if it needed fixing ? > > jules > On 5 Sep 2011, at 20:57, Lewis Crack wrote: > >> Hey Jules. >> >> Yeah I know what you mean, well it can't be a dodgy power supply as it >> doesn't happen on battery. >> >> I'd say don't worry about it for now, but if you do manage to buy Apple >> Care Protection for your Macbook then just get it checked. >> Lewis :) >> On 5 Sep 2011, at 19:56, Julie Vaughan wrote: >> >>> yes lew it does charge fine and it also happens when the external hard >>> drive is in so any time its connected to the electric supply, if that >>> makes sense >>> >>> jules :) >>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 13:36, Lewis Crack wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jules. >>>> >>>> Does it still charge? If it does, I shouldn't worry too much, the thing >>>> you could try doing is getting another power adapter. >>>> If it still happens, but it is still charging, I wouldn't worry too >>>> much. Maybe there is a slight fault with the power supply in the >>>> machine, but because it's not under warranty, it would cost a lot to >>>> repair. >>>> Regards. >>>> Lewis :) >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 09:35, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>>> >>>>> hi >>>>> >>>>> no its not under warranty i brought it from ebay it works great just >>>>> that one niggle if its anything >>>>> >>>>> jules >>>>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 06:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Couldn't hurt to do that, especially if it's still under warranty. >>>>>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> that's cool would it be worth taking it in to n apple store and >>>>>>> getting it looked at? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> jules smiley. >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From moriond at mac.com Mon Sep 5 23:52:28 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 12:52:28 -1000 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> <88074E06-34F0-4BC6-B4B1-637AB67734A0@virginmedia.com> <9800B58F-BE19-49BE-969A-D2A91E5C5569@charter.net> <9C4709A3-5747-46C3-BB97-FFF21A06544E@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jules, You might want to check if the same issue occurs when you connect a different power adapter. If you know someone with a compatible MacBook Pro (65 Watt adapters, I think), check whether the vibration is still present. Or take your MacBook Pro to a local Apple Store, if that's easy, and have them check whether it's present when you switch to their power adapter. If the adapter is the issue, just buy a new one to be safe. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 5, 2011, at 12:42, Garry Turkington wrote: > Hi, > > We've had 2 aluminium MacBook Pros and I could feel a very slight > vibration on both if I touched the lid when it was closed and the > power cable attached. So if it is incredibly subtle this may be the > same phenomena. > > However, its never good to be cavalier about electrical issues so if > you have concerns a visit to the nearest Apple Store (if you have one > nearby) may not hurt. > > Garry > > On 9/5/11, Julie Vaughan wrote: >> hi lew >> >> i went on the apple site last night and i can not buy apple care as you have >> to purchase it within the year of having your device so thats not gonna be >> an option :( >> >> any suggestions unless any other people have any ??? >> >> thanks lew and the machine is fine apart from that i wonder how much it >> would cost if it needed fixing ? >> >> jules >> On 5 Sep 2011, at 20:57, Lewis Crack wrote: >> >>> Hey Jules. >>> >>> Yeah I know what you mean, well it can't be a dodgy power supply as it >>> doesn't happen on battery. >>> >>> I'd say don't worry about it for now, but if you do manage to buy Apple >>> Care Protection for your Macbook then just get it checked. >>> Lewis :) >>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 19:56, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>> >>>> yes lew it does charge fine and it also happens when the external hard >>>> drive is in so any time its connected to the electric supply, if that >>>> makes sense >>>> >>>> jules :) >>>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 13:36, Lewis Crack wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Jules. >>>>> >>>>> Does it still charge? If it does, I shouldn't worry too much, the thing >>>>> you could try doing is getting another power adapter. >>>>> If it still happens, but it is still charging, I wouldn't worry too >>>>> much. Maybe there is a slight fault with the power supply in the >>>>> machine, but because it's not under warranty, it would cost a lot to >>>>> repair. >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Lewis :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 09:35, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hi >>>>>> >>>>>> no its not under warranty i brought it from ebay it works great just >>>>>> that one niggle if its anything >>>>>> >>>>>> jules >>>>>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 06:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Couldn't hurt to do that, especially if it's still under warranty. >>>>>>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that's cool would it be worth taking it in to n apple store and >>>>>>>> getting it looked at? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> jules smiley. From support at mac-access.net Tue Sep 6 03:59:01 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 03:59:01 +0100 Subject: Belated; New Member Welcome Message-ID: Hello everybody It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: Rosa Mauer to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Tue Sep 6 04:21:16 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 23:21:16 -0400 Subject: Location of VM File under Lyon? Message-ID: <9A2083DB-2057-4C25-B5F7-E76F62B3D8EF@Mac-Access.net> Dear listers, I have read several descriptions of where I should find the VM file created by VM Fusion. I'm using Lyon and have not been able to find it. One source indicated it would be in my documents folder. I went to my home directory then documents and no new folder. Another source said under Library but I don't have access to that folder any longer. Can someone point me in the right direction? I won't feel like my Mac is completely backed up until I can locate and keep track of that file! Gratefully, eric Caron From skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com Tue Sep 6 04:27:20 2011 From: skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com (Kliph&Sharrie) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 22:27:20 -0500 Subject: Location of VM File under Lyon? In-Reply-To: <9A2083DB-2057-4C25-B5F7-E76F62B3D8EF@Mac-Access.net> References: <9A2083DB-2057-4C25-B5F7-E76F62B3D8EF@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <008601cc6c44$e45c1e40$ad145ac0$@gmail.com> That's where mine is. Hold on let me check, just checked and yes that is where mine is. Kliphton Senior (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie (Family Blog) miller9nation.wordpress.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 10:21 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Location of VM File under Lyon? Dear listers, I have read several descriptions of where I should find the VM file created by VM Fusion. I'm using Lyon and have not been able to find it. One source indicated it would be in my documents folder. I went to my home directory then documents and no new folder. Another source said under Library but I don't have access to that folder any longer. Can someone point me in the right direction? I won't feel like my Mac is completely backed up until I can locate and keep track of that file! Gratefully, eric Caron <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Sep 6 06:19:57 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 06:19:57 +0100 Subject: Apple TV Second Generation In-Reply-To: <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <5E1B6A87-0708-47EA-B809-E0636F79C88F@mac-access.net> Actually, you're wrong here. If you look just above the HDMI port, you will see that there is a USB Micro port which is used for firmware updating and other functionality not intended to be performed by the average user. Lynne On 4 Sep 2011, at 07:07, Vaughn Bennison wrote: Further more, the apple tv doesn't even have a usb port! It has an ethernet port, an optical audio out port, and an HDMI port, oh and of course a power port! Your computer doesn't even come into the equation. I agree that having to use an hdmi port is kind of annoying, but only from the perspective that you may need sighted assistance to select the correct input channel! From grtdane at internode.on.net Tue Sep 6 06:35:51 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 15:35:51 +1000 Subject: Apple TV Second Generation In-Reply-To: <5E1B6A87-0708-47EA-B809-E0636F79C88F@mac-access.net> References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> <5E1B6A87-0708-47EA-B809-E0636F79C88F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1F415F70-4D68-4397-B53C-767F5A51504E@internode.on.net> But the point is really that the "every day person" doesn't need or can't use this USB port. Making mountains out of molehills yet again. On 06/09/2011, at 3:19 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Actually, you're wrong here. If you look just above the HDMI port, you will see that there is a USB Micro port which is used for firmware updating and other functionality not intended to be performed by the average user. > > Lynne > > On 4 Sep 2011, at 07:07, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > > Further more, the apple tv doesn't even have a usb port! It has an ethernet port, an optical audio out port, and an HDMI port, oh and of course a power port! Your computer doesn't even come into the equation. I agree that having to use an hdmi port is kind of annoying, but only from the perspective that you may need sighted assistance to select the correct input channel! > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Sep 6 06:43:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 06:43:12 +0100 Subject: Apple TV Second Generation In-Reply-To: <1F415F70-4D68-4397-B53C-767F5A51504E@internode.on.net> References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> <5E1B6A87-0708-47EA-B809-E0636F79C88F@mac-access.net> <1F415F70-4D68-4397-B53C-767F5A51504E@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <7561EF9C-7F6C-447A-9165-BE6C5B863D90@mac-access.net> Hello Dane Not at all! I was simply correcting the statement that "The Apple TV Doesn't have a USB Port". Further, it wasn't even in response to your comment so why are you "making mountains out of molehills?" Lynne On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:35, Dane Trethowan wrote: But the point is really that the "every day person" doesn't need or can't use this USB port. Making mountains out of molehills yet again. From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Sep 6 07:11:43 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 07:11:43 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion, Parallels Desktop 6; Running Mac OS X as a Virtual Machine Message-ID: Hello everybody Has anybody tried this I wonder? I did it a little while ago, some time last year, but obviously things have changed a bit since that time. I ask because I know that several members of this group are involved in the testing of various applications across the board for various different developers and I wondered whether anybody had had any success with this, with or without VoiceOver. I'm no expert; but I would imagine that running VO in both the guest and host OS at the same time would present problems; That said I know that it's possible to obtain markedly better results even with other operating systems in the guest configuration when VoiceOver isn't running in the host. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Sep 6 08:32:39 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 08:32:39 +0100 Subject: MacScan 2.01 Message-ID: Hello everybody Is anybody else using this security tool I wonder? If not and you're concerned with your systems' overall security, you might want to give it a go. No; I'm not bringing back the age-old subject of viruses! Whilst I'm sure they exist for OSX I haven't ever encountered one and nor, as far as I know, has anybody else I have discussed that with. So while I'm not arrogant enough to assume my security from such things is absolute, I'm not about to waste more money lining the pockets of people who, according to some, produce the virus applications themselves in order to start a panic so that people will then buy the antivirus applications produced by the same people. At the very least I think it's possible that they start the rumours and scaremongering. Actually, I'm talking about the detection of spyware, tracking cookies and other such malware. I'm given to understand that even people like Google use tracking cookies in order to keep tabs on your browsing activities. Whilst that maybe entirely benign, I can't deny that it does concern me; particularly since our client computers (all Macs) are used for things like online banking and other similar transactions. MacScan 2.01 seemingly has more capabilities than any other security tool I personally have tried for detecting such things as might pose a threat to the user's data integrity. I tried running a full scan on it yesterday evening and left it running on our MacBook overnight just to see what it came up with. The results were quite interesting. It would seem that Google isn't the only supposedly reputable company now employing tracking cookies, (if, indeed, you can call Google "reputable"). Anybody feel like giving this a try, you can find it at Oh, and have a look around the main site; it's quite interesting. Lynne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Sep 6 08:35:03 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 08:35:03 +0100 Subject: realplayer downloader is launched in the background. Message-ID: <8A6640C2-142F-43F5-A350-77833846D196@computing.dcu.ie> Morning all, When I launch Safari, this message is spoken and this benighted piece of cr.. software is started. Firstly, anyone know how I can ascertain what piece of content is triggering the launch? Secondly, with the exception of the BBC iPlayer, do I need this thing, or indeed, do I need it for the BBC site? D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Sep 6 08:38:02 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 08:38:02 +0100 Subject: MacScan 2.01 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for this post Lynne, I've been looking for something like this. You're quite correct that Google, (and many others) put these things all over machines for the purposes of providing selective location-based advertising etc. Indeed, all kinds of rumours suggest Apple are not above doing this themselves. D?nal On 6 Sep 2011, at 08:32, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Is anybody else using this security tool I wonder? If not and you're concerned with your systems' overall security, you might want to give it a go. No; I'm not bringing back the age-old subject of viruses! Whilst I'm sure they exist for OSX I haven't ever encountered one and nor, as far as I know, has anybody else I have discussed that with. So while I'm not arrogant enough to assume my security from such things is absolute, I'm not about to waste more money lining the pockets of people who, according to some, produce the virus applications themselves in order to start a panic so that people will then buy the antivirus applications produced by the same people. At the very least I think it's possible that they start the rumours and scaremongering. > > Actually, I'm talking about the detection of spyware, tracking cookies and other such malware. I'm given to understand that even people like Google use tracking cookies in order to keep tabs on your browsing activities. Whilst that maybe entirely benign, I can't deny that it does concern me; particularly since our client computers (all Macs) are used for things like online banking and other similar transactions. > > MacScan 2.01 seemingly has more capabilities than any other security tool I personally have tried for detecting such things as might pose a threat to the user's data integrity. I tried running a full scan on it yesterday evening and left it running on our MacBook overnight just to see what it came up with. The results were quite interesting. It would seem that Google isn't the only supposedly reputable company now employing tracking cookies, (if, indeed, you can call Google "reputable"). > > Anybody feel like giving this a try, you can find it at Oh, and have a look around the main site; it's quite interesting. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Sep 6 08:43:20 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 08:43:20 +0100 Subject: realplayer downloader is launched in the background. In-Reply-To: <8A6640C2-142F-43F5-A350-77833846D196@computing.dcu.ie> References: <8A6640C2-142F-43F5-A350-77833846D196@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <61145E80-7900-4582-AB43-1623217EC27C@mac-access.net> Hello Donal Yours is the second machine in less than a week that we've encountered with this and we think it's a Safari extension. We think it has something to do with the BBC Internet Radio streaming because according to the owner of the other machine we've seen this on, that's what she was doing when this started happening. This is only our hypothesis but it sounds plausible we think. Lynne On 6 Sep 2011, at 08:35, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Morning all, When I launch Safari, this message is spoken and this benighted piece of cr.. software is started. Firstly, anyone know how I can ascertain what piece of content is triggering the launch? Secondly, with the exception of the BBC iPlayer, do I need this thing, or indeed, do I need it for the BBC site? D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Sep 6 08:45:42 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 08:45:42 +0100 Subject: MacScan 2.01 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20F874A9-E4A5-4A8A-939C-8F6043EE73CC@mac-access.net> Hello Donal Your comments regarding Apple are actually along the lines of what I was thinking of when i talked about "Reputable companies". But as yet we have no proof and we don't want to be alarmist. But it's a well known fact that Google does this. Lynne On 6 Sep 2011, at 08:38, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks for this post Lynne, I've been looking for something like this. You're quite correct that Google, (and many others) put these things all over machines for the purposes of providing selective location-based advertising etc. Indeed, all kinds of rumours suggest Apple are not above doing this themselves. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Sep 6 09:29:27 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:29:27 +0100 Subject: realplayer downloader is launched in the background. In-Reply-To: <61145E80-7900-4582-AB43-1623217EC27C@mac-access.net> References: <8A6640C2-142F-43F5-A350-77833846D196@computing.dcu.ie> <61145E80-7900-4582-AB43-1623217EC27C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <33EC15F3-8D2A-4C03-A04F-98E7CD451426@computing.dcu.ie> Yes this makes sense Lynne as I was listening to 5live a few days ago. D?nal On 6 Sep 2011, at 08:43, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Donal > > Yours is the second machine in less than a week that we've encountered with this and we think it's a Safari extension. We think it has something to do with the BBC Internet Radio streaming because according to the owner of the other machine we've seen this on, that's what she was doing when this started happening. > > This is only our hypothesis but it sounds plausible we think. > > Lynne > > On 6 Sep 2011, at 08:35, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Morning all, > > When I launch Safari, this message is spoken and this benighted piece of cr.. software is started. Firstly, anyone know how I can ascertain what piece of content is triggering the launch? Secondly, with the exception of the BBC iPlayer, do I need this thing, or indeed, do I need it for the BBC site? > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Sep 6 09:41:50 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:41:50 +0100 Subject: MacScan 2.01 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <637567EB-D6E4-4D2B-8BF1-29A489590B0A@computing.dcu.ie> HI Lynne, I've just tried installing this and when I open it VO reports "MacScan has no windows". Df?nal On 6 Sep 2011, at 08:32, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Is anybody else using this security tool I wonder? If not and you're concerned with your systems' overall security, you might want to give it a go. No; I'm not bringing back the age-old subject of viruses! Whilst I'm sure they exist for OSX I haven't ever encountered one and nor, as far as I know, has anybody else I have discussed that with. So while I'm not arrogant enough to assume my security from such things is absolute, I'm not about to waste more money lining the pockets of people who, according to some, produce the virus applications themselves in order to start a panic so that people will then buy the antivirus applications produced by the same people. At the very least I think it's possible that they start the rumours and scaremongering. > > Actually, I'm talking about the detection of spyware, tracking cookies and other such malware. I'm given to understand that even people like Google use tracking cookies in order to keep tabs on your browsing activities. Whilst that maybe entirely benign, I can't deny that it does concern me; particularly since our client computers (all Macs) are used for things like online banking and other similar transactions. > > MacScan 2.01 seemingly has more capabilities than any other security tool I personally have tried for detecting such things as might pose a threat to the user's data integrity. I tried running a full scan on it yesterday evening and left it running on our MacBook overnight just to see what it came up with. The results were quite interesting. It would seem that Google isn't the only supposedly reputable company now employing tracking cookies, (if, indeed, you can call Google "reputable"). > > Anybody feel like giving this a try, you can find it at Oh, and have a look around the main site; it's quite interesting. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Sep 6 14:03:17 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:03:17 +0100 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> <88074E06-34F0-4BC6-B4B1-637AB67734A0@virginmedia.com> <9800B58F-BE19-49BE-969A-D2A91E5C5569@charter.net> <9C4709A3-5747-46C3-BB97-FFF21A06544E@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Ok I may just do that thanks Sent from my iPhone On 5 Sep 2011, at 23:42, Garry Turkington wrote: > Hi, > > We've had 2 aluminium MacBook Pros and I could feel a very slight > vibration on both if I touched the lid when it was closed and the > power cable attached. So if it is incredibly subtle this may be the > same phenomena. > > However, its never good to be cavalier about electrical issues so if > you have concerns a visit to the nearest Apple Store (if you have one > nearby) may not hurt. > > Garry > > On 9/5/11, Julie Vaughan wrote: >> hi lew >> >> i went on the apple site last night and i can not buy apple care as you have >> to purchase it within the year of having your device so thats not gonna be >> an option :( >> >> any suggestions unless any other people have any ??? >> >> thanks lew and the machine is fine apart from that i wonder how much it >> would cost if it needed fixing ? >> >> jules >> On 5 Sep 2011, at 20:57, Lewis Crack wrote: >> >>> Hey Jules. >>> >>> Yeah I know what you mean, well it can't be a dodgy power supply as it >>> doesn't happen on battery. >>> >>> I'd say don't worry about it for now, but if you do manage to buy Apple >>> Care Protection for your Macbook then just get it checked. >>> Lewis :) >>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 19:56, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>> >>>> yes lew it does charge fine and it also happens when the external hard >>>> drive is in so any time its connected to the electric supply, if that >>>> makes sense >>>> >>>> jules :) >>>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 13:36, Lewis Crack wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Jules. >>>>> >>>>> Does it still charge? If it does, I shouldn't worry too much, the thing >>>>> you could try doing is getting another power adapter. >>>>> If it still happens, but it is still charging, I wouldn't worry too >>>>> much. Maybe there is a slight fault with the power supply in the >>>>> machine, but because it's not under warranty, it would cost a lot to >>>>> repair. >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Lewis :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 09:35, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hi >>>>>> >>>>>> no its not under warranty i brought it from ebay it works great just >>>>>> that one niggle if its anything >>>>>> >>>>>> jules >>>>>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 06:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Couldn't hurt to do that, especially if it's still under warranty. >>>>>>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that's cool would it be worth taking it in to n apple store and >>>>>>>> getting it looked at? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> jules smiley. >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Sep 6 14:06:16 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:06:16 +0100 Subject: macbook pro In-Reply-To: References: <46168252-76E3-4F9A-8220-F575DFDC5F4A@btinternet.com> <19F80936-3A7D-4B8E-B7B0-54DB514BBDA1@Mac-Access.net> <41B5A226-D4F5-4950-8E6B-144D8A800DDA@virginmedia.com> <39EF49F8-BB3F-420E-9213-8FEE666F1220@charter.net> <88074E06-34F0-4BC6-B4B1-637AB67734A0@virginmedia.com> <9800B58F-BE19-49BE-969A-D2A91E5C5569@charter.net> <9C4709A3-5747-46C3-BB97-FFF21A06544E@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi I don't think it's the adapter because it also happens when I have my external hard drive connected if you know what i mean Thanks Jules Sent from my iPhone On 5 Sep 2011, at 23:52, Esther wrote: > Hi Jules, > > You might want to check if the same issue occurs when you connect a different power adapter. If you know someone with a compatible MacBook Pro (65 Watt adapters, I think), check whether the vibration is still present. Or take your MacBook Pro to a local Apple Store, if that's easy, and have them check whether it's present when you switch to their power adapter. If the adapter is the issue, just buy a new one to be safe. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Sep 5, 2011, at 12:42, Garry Turkington wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We've had 2 aluminium MacBook Pros and I could feel a very slight >> vibration on both if I touched the lid when it was closed and the >> power cable attached. So if it is incredibly subtle this may be the >> same phenomena. >> >> However, its never good to be cavalier about electrical issues so if >> you have concerns a visit to the nearest Apple Store (if you have one >> nearby) may not hurt. >> >> Garry >> >> On 9/5/11, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>> hi lew >>> >>> i went on the apple site last night and i can not buy apple care as you have >>> to purchase it within the year of having your device so thats not gonna be >>> an option :( >>> >>> any suggestions unless any other people have any ??? >>> >>> thanks lew and the machine is fine apart from that i wonder how much it >>> would cost if it needed fixing ? >>> >>> jules >>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 20:57, Lewis Crack wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Jules. >>>> >>>> Yeah I know what you mean, well it can't be a dodgy power supply as it >>>> doesn't happen on battery. >>>> >>>> I'd say don't worry about it for now, but if you do manage to buy Apple >>>> Care Protection for your Macbook then just get it checked. >>>> Lewis :) >>>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 19:56, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>>> >>>>> yes lew it does charge fine and it also happens when the external hard >>>>> drive is in so any time its connected to the electric supply, if that >>>>> makes sense >>>>> >>>>> jules :) >>>>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 13:36, Lewis Crack wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jules. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does it still charge? If it does, I shouldn't worry too much, the thing >>>>>> you could try doing is getting another power adapter. >>>>>> If it still happens, but it is still charging, I wouldn't worry too >>>>>> much. Maybe there is a slight fault with the power supply in the >>>>>> machine, but because it's not under warranty, it would cost a lot to >>>>>> repair. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Lewis :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 09:35, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> hi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> no its not under warranty i brought it from ebay it works great just >>>>>>> that one niggle if its anything >>>>>>> >>>>>>> jules >>>>>>> On 5 Sep 2011, at 06:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Couldn't hurt to do that, especially if it's still under warranty. >>>>>>>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Julie Vaughan wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> that's cool would it be worth taking it in to n apple store and >>>>>>>>> getting it looked at? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> jules smiley. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Tue Sep 6 15:30:43 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:30:43 -0400 Subject: Location of VM File under Lyon? In-Reply-To: <008601cc6c44$e45c1e40$ad145ac0$@gmail.com> References: <9A2083DB-2057-4C25-B5F7-E76F62B3D8EF@Mac-Access.net> <008601cc6c44$e45c1e40$ad145ac0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <82DE9A38-6F54-42FE-867D-CD4C57648553@Mac-Access.net> Hi Kliph, Just confirming your reply. For you under Lyon you have a folder for your VM File in your home directory you then go to documents and find it there? Just double checking because again for me it is not there. This is a concern to me because I am about to delete bootcamp and don't want to mess things up. Also, I really want to be sure I have the backing up process figured out. Eric Caron On Sep 5, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > That's where mine is. Hold on let me check, just checked and yes that is > where mine is. > > Kliphton Senior > (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 > (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com > (Marriage group) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians > (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie > (Family Blog) miller9nation.wordpress.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 10:21 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Location of VM File under Lyon? > > Dear listers, > > I have read several descriptions of where I should find the VM file > created by VM Fusion. I'm using Lyon and have not been able to find it. > One source indicated it would be in my documents folder. I went to my home > directory then documents and no new folder. Another source said under > Library but I don't have access to that folder any longer. > > Can someone point me in the right direction? > I won't feel like my Mac is completely backed up until I can locate and keep > track of that file! > > Gratefully, > > eric Caron > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com Tue Sep 6 17:35:35 2011 From: skhleirpehctcoens7284 at gmail.com (Kliph&Sharrie) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:35:35 -0500 Subject: Location of VM File under Lyon? In-Reply-To: <82DE9A38-6F54-42FE-867D-CD4C57648553@Mac-Access.net> References: <9A2083DB-2057-4C25-B5F7-E76F62B3D8EF@Mac-Access.net> <008601cc6c44$e45c1e40$ad145ac0$@gmail.com> <82DE9A38-6F54-42FE-867D-CD4C57648553@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: That is correct. I push command shift H, then interact with the table, navigate to documents, and push command down arrow to open that folder up, and my vm fusion folder is right there. Why don't you search for it in the finder? Kliphton SR (twitter&Skype) kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians On Sep 6, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Kliph, > > Just confirming your reply. For you under Lyon you have a folder for your VM File in your home directory you then go to documents and find it there? > Just double checking because again for me it is not there. > > This is a concern to me because I am about to delete bootcamp and don't want to mess things up. Also, I really want to be sure I have the backing up process figured out. > > Eric Caron > > On Sep 5, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > >> That's where mine is. Hold on let me check, just checked and yes that is >> where mine is. >> >> Kliphton Senior >> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 >> (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com >> (Marriage group) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians >> (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie >> (Family Blog) miller9nation.wordpress.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron >> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 10:21 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Location of VM File under Lyon? >> >> Dear listers, >> >> I have read several descriptions of where I should find the VM file >> created by VM Fusion. I'm using Lyon and have not been able to find it. >> One source indicated it would be in my documents folder. I went to my home >> directory then documents and no new folder. Another source said under >> Library but I don't have access to that folder any longer. >> >> Can someone point me in the right direction? >> I won't feel like my Mac is completely backed up until I can locate and keep >> track of that file! >> >> Gratefully, >> >> eric Caron >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Tue Sep 6 17:58:58 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:58:58 +0100 Subject: MacScan 2.01 In-Reply-To: <637567EB-D6E4-4D2B-8BF1-29A489590B0A@computing.dcu.ie> References: <637567EB-D6E4-4D2B-8BF1-29A489590B0A@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <7A81DE23-80B2-49E4-B57E-96CF02BDA022@mac-access.net> Hello Donal I meant to warn you about this. When this happens just press enter. It is an authentication window that VoiceOver doesn't see. On 6 Sep 2011, at 09:41, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: HI Lynne, I've just tried installing this and when I open it VO reports "MacScan has no windows". Df?nal On 6 Sep 2011, at 08:32, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Is anybody else using this security tool I wonder? If not and you're concerned with your systems' overall security, you might want to give it a go. No; I'm not bringing back the age-old subject of viruses! Whilst I'm sure they exist for OSX I haven't ever encountered one and nor, as far as I know, has anybody else I have discussed that with. So while I'm not arrogant enough to assume my security from such things is absolute, I'm not about to waste more money lining the pockets of people who, according to some, produce the virus applications themselves in order to start a panic so that people will then buy the antivirus applications produced by the same people. At the very least I think it's possible that they start the rumours and scaremongering. > > Actually, I'm talking about the detection of spyware, tracking cookies and other such malware. I'm given to understand that even people like Google use tracking cookies in order to keep tabs on your browsing activities. Whilst that maybe entirely benign, I can't deny that it does concern me; particularly since our client computers (all Macs) are used for things like online banking and other similar transactions. > > MacScan 2.01 seemingly has more capabilities than any other security tool I personally have tried for detecting such things as might pose a threat to the user's data integrity. I tried running a full scan on it yesterday evening and left it running on our MacBook overnight just to see what it came up with. The results were quite interesting. It would seem that Google isn't the only supposedly reputable company now employing tracking cookies, (if, indeed, you can call Google "reputable"). > > Anybody feel like giving this a try, you can find it at Oh, and have a look around the main site; it's quite interesting. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Tue Sep 6 18:02:13 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:02:13 +0100 Subject: Location of VM File under Lyon? In-Reply-To: References: <9A2083DB-2057-4C25-B5F7-E76F62B3D8EF@Mac-Access.net> <008601cc6c44$e45c1e40$ad145ac0$@gmail.com> <82DE9A38-6F54-42FE-867D-CD4C57648553@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <1B1DDB89-BB6B-4755-8563-E5161F3644C5@mac-access.net> No Look under ~/Documents/Virtual Machines which is where they live. Gordon On 6 Sep 2011, at 17:35, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: That is correct. I push command shift H, then interact with the table, navigate to documents, and push command down arrow to open that folder up, and my vm fusion folder is right there. Why don't you search for it in the finder? Kliphton SR (twitter&Skype) kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians On Sep 6, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Kliph, > > Just confirming your reply. For you under Lyon you have a folder for your VM File in your home directory you then go to documents and find it there? > Just double checking because again for me it is not there. > > This is a concern to me because I am about to delete bootcamp and don't want to mess things up. Also, I really want to be sure I have the backing up process figured out. > > Eric Caron > > On Sep 5, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > >> That's where mine is. Hold on let me check, just checked and yes that is >> where mine is. >> >> Kliphton Senior >> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 >> (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com >> (Marriage group) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians >> (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie >> (Family Blog) miller9nation.wordpress.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron >> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 10:21 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Location of VM File under Lyon? >> >> Dear listers, >> >> I have read several descriptions of where I should find the VM file >> created by VM Fusion. I'm using Lyon and have not been able to find it. >> One source indicated it would be in my documents folder. I went to my home >> directory then documents and no new folder. Another source said under >> Library but I don't have access to that folder any longer. >> >> Can someone point me in the right direction? >> I won't feel like my Mac is completely backed up until I can locate and keep >> track of that file! >> >> Gratefully, >> >> eric Caron >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From opensesame at me.com Tue Sep 6 18:48:24 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 13:48:24 -0400 Subject: Looking for an accessible typing tutor application Message-ID: <411EADF9-504B-44A1-8FED-71B61DF2F804@me.com> Hello All, I'm in the process of attempting to adapt to a Spanish ISO QWERTY keyboard layout and am thinking I might benefit from the use of a typing tutor application. Has anyone here successfully used a VO accessible typing tutor, particularly one that is compatible with multiple languages and keyboard layouts? While the letter keys on the Spanish ISO layout closely match those of my usual US English layout, there are enough differences in the size and location of other keys that I think I could use some formalized assistance. If such an application exists, my next question would be: Since VO already serves to provide an echo of the key pressed, does the typing tutor app provide any learning enhancements above and beyond what I can achieve just by pressing, memorizing and practicing the various keys? The reason I have the notion of a typing tutor app stuck in my head is because I had great success learning to touch type back in the 1980s by using a program called "Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing" which ran on MS-DOS and provided some entertaining games that held my attention and kept me practicing, but I was fully sighted at the time and that app was very visual. Thank you in advance for any insight, Bryan From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Sep 6 19:03:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:03:27 +0100 Subject: How to save an image Message-ID: Hello everybody I need to save a couple of images from a website. I don't want the entire page, just the images. Is there a way to do this please? Thanks in advance. Lynne From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Sep 6 19:11:51 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:11:51 +0100 Subject: How to save an image In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Lynne, If you use either VO+Shift+M or Control+Click on the Image, you'll find the option to "save image to "Downloads" in the pop-up menu that appears. HTH TC :) james On 6 Sep 2011, at 19:03, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I need to save a couple of images from a website. I don't want the entire page, just the images. Is there a way to do this please? > > Thanks in advance. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Sep 6 19:21:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:21:24 +0100 Subject: How to save an image In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello James Damn! That's where I went wrong; I tried to "Option+Click" and wondered why I didn't get the results I wanted; and for some reason didn't even think of trying a control+click. . Thanks for the second suggestion as the first, the VO+M option can't be used because this particular site objects violently to VoiceOver. All that happens when the site is entered with Vo resident is a loop of VoiceOver crash restart, crash restart, crash, restart; you get the idea! Thanks. Lynne On 6 Sep 2011, at 19:11, James AUSTIN wrote: Hello Lynne, If you use either VO+Shift+M or Control+Click on the Image, you'll find the option to "save image to "Downloads" in the pop-up menu that appears. HTH TC :) james On 6 Sep 2011, at 19:03, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I need to save a couple of images from a website. I don't want the entire page, just the images. Is there a way to do this please? > > Thanks in advance. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Tue Sep 6 20:10:57 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 20:10:57 +0100 Subject: MacScan 2.01 In-Reply-To: <7A81DE23-80B2-49E4-B57E-96CF02BDA022@mac-access.net> References: <637567EB-D6E4-4D2B-8BF1-29A489590B0A@computing.dcu.ie> <7A81DE23-80B2-49E4-B57E-96CF02BDA022@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Great stuff, thanks. On 6 Sep 2011, at 17:58, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello Donal > > I meant to warn you about this. When this happens just press enter. It is an authentication window that VoiceOver doesn't see. > > On 6 Sep 2011, at 09:41, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > HI Lynne, > > I've just tried installing this and when I open it VO reports "MacScan has no windows". > > Df?nal > On 6 Sep 2011, at 08:32, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> Is anybody else using this security tool I wonder? If not and you're concerned with your systems' overall security, you might want to give it a go. No; I'm not bringing back the age-old subject of viruses! Whilst I'm sure they exist for OSX I haven't ever encountered one and nor, as far as I know, has anybody else I have discussed that with. So while I'm not arrogant enough to assume my security from such things is absolute, I'm not about to waste more money lining the pockets of people who, according to some, produce the virus applications themselves in order to start a panic so that people will then buy the antivirus applications produced by the same people. At the very least I think it's possible that they start the rumours and scaremongering. >> >> Actually, I'm talking about the detection of spyware, tracking cookies and other such malware. I'm given to understand that even people like Google use tracking cookies in order to keep tabs on your browsing activities. Whilst that maybe entirely benign, I can't deny that it does concern me; particularly since our client computers (all Macs) are used for things like online banking and other similar transactions. >> >> MacScan 2.01 seemingly has more capabilities than any other security tool I personally have tried for detecting such things as might pose a threat to the user's data integrity. I tried running a full scan on it yesterday evening and left it running on our MacBook overnight just to see what it came up with. The results were quite interesting. It would seem that Google isn't the only supposedly reputable company now employing tracking cookies, (if, indeed, you can call Google "reputable"). >> >> Anybody feel like giving this a try, you can find it at Oh, and have a look around the main site; it's quite interesting. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au Tue Sep 6 21:42:46 2011 From: vaughnbennison at netspace.net.au (Vaughn Bennison) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 06:42:46 +1000 Subject: Apple TV Second Generation In-Reply-To: <5E1B6A87-0708-47EA-B809-E0636F79C88F@mac-access.net> References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> <5E1B6A87-0708-47EA-B809-E0636F79C88F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1023F8DB-F291-43EC-8211-97F7BB43DF09@netspace.net.au> OK, for some reason I thought that was a lock port or something, you know, like those locks for laptops etc! Very interesting. Vaughn. On 06/09/2011, at 3:19 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Actually, you're wrong here. If you look just above the HDMI port, you will see that there is a USB Micro port which is used for firmware updating and other functionality not intended to be performed by the average user. > > Lynne > > On 4 Sep 2011, at 07:07, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > > Further more, the apple tv doesn't even have a usb port! It has an ethernet port, an optical audio out port, and an HDMI port, oh and of course a power port! Your computer doesn't even come into the equation. I agree that having to use an hdmi port is kind of annoying, but only from the perspective that you may need sighted assistance to select the correct input channel! > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Tue Sep 6 21:55:54 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 10:55:54 -1000 Subject: bus stop ap for the i-phone In-Reply-To: References: <4e64af72.8c6ee30a.6083.ffff99f4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Michael, As Geoff indicated, iPhone apps for local public transportation depend a lot on the details of location, and even in the U.S., NextBus doesn't serve all areas. Arrival time information and locations are only available if the bus systems in question have been fitted out with this kind of broadcasting information. However, a common solution is to set a route point at the stop before you need to get off. You can find out bus stops in the vicinity either using the free AroundMe app or the Where To? app, which supplies even more information. Both of these are helper applications that can send destinations to Navigon, TomTom, or the default Maps app. I think that when I tried Where To? and tried to set for a UK location, it also reference the transportdirect.info web site for general route planning, The link to the page for buses is: http://www.transportdirect.info/Web2/JourneyPlanning/FindBusInput.aspx (I did find that somewhat clunky to use and input source and destination, but it's possible to make it work, and I suppose it may be easier if you actually live there.) For London, I know that U.S. apps like HopStop can do route planning for combined public transport means. And there are probably a host of apps and web sites specific to that city. I think there's a general route planning app for the south and east of Britain called Traveline South & East: http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/traveline-south-east/id369553999?mt=8 and there's another by the same developer called "NextBuses" that claims to cover 370,000 buses in England, Scotland, and Wales with information on when your next bus is due: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nextbuses/id362006676?mt=8 I have no information on the effectiveness or accessibility of these apps -- they just came up in searching. Your best bet is to get information from someone using such apps in your own vicinity. I can only add that in my vicinity, Navigon doesn't pull up bus stops, so I get them from Where To? and save them. There's also an app called Get Off Now! that some VoiceOver users have used. There is both a lite free version and a paid version: ? Get Off Now!-Predictive GPS Alarm (Lite) http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/get-off-now!-lite-predictive/id431512003?mt=8 ? Get Off Now!-Predictive GPS Alarm ($0.99) http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/get-off-now!-predictive-gps/id415576580?mt=8 HTH to get you started. Cheers, Esther On Sep 5, 2011, at 06:06, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Michael, > > The answer will depend on your location and needs. If I read mail headers correctly, you posted from London. It does not appear that the nextbus site works outside North America, but perhaps you can find an equivalent. In areas served by NextBus, you can open a site in Safari and optionally place it on your home screen. When launched, it will list all stop names and predicted arrival times sorted by proximity from your present location. It won't tell you which corner the stop is on or its offset from the intersection, but I don't know of any apps that will. If you're looking for that level of detail you'd need to mark locations using an app such as Ariadne GPS. > > Since NextBus is likely not an option for you, I would suggest doing an app store search using your city combined with other search terms such as "public transit" or "bus". > > Best regards. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: michael weaver > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:19 AM > Subject: bus stop ap for the i-phone > > > does anyone know of an accessible app for the i-phone that > detects bus stops which i could use as an extention to navigon or > whatever you might call it? > i don't appear to find navigon accurate when it comes to bus > stops or it gives me too many messages when i arrive at my stop. From moriond at mac.com Tue Sep 6 22:05:18 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:05:18 -1000 Subject: Looking for an accessible typing tutor application In-Reply-To: <411EADF9-504B-44A1-8FED-71B61DF2F804@me.com> References: <411EADF9-504B-44A1-8FED-71B61DF2F804@me.com> Message-ID: Hello Bryan, I've mostly learned other keyboards by typing in TextEdit, but there's another way you can shortcut your typing of Spanish characters if you have TextExpander for the Mac. See this link to the Spanish snippets definitions with download link: http://blog.smilesoftware.com/2009/03/24/textexpander-26-and-spanish-accents/ (Note, the downloaded snippets file won't be of any use unless you have TextExpander Touch on your iOS devices or TextExpander on the Mac). This is not the same as learning all the accent key positions on a Spanish keyboard, because it basically lets you type accented character combinations with standard keys. I don't know of a good typing tutor that isn't visual. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 6, 2011, at 07:48, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello All, > > I'm in the process of attempting to adapt to a Spanish ISO QWERTY keyboard layout and am thinking I might benefit from the use of a typing tutor application. Has anyone here successfully used a VO accessible typing tutor, particularly one that is compatible with multiple languages and keyboard layouts? While the letter keys on the Spanish ISO layout closely match those of my usual US English layout, there are enough differences in the size and location of other keys that I think I could use some formalized assistance. > > If such an application exists, my next question would be: Since VO already serves to provide an echo of the key pressed, does the typing tutor app provide any learning enhancements above and beyond what I can achieve just by pressing, memorizing and practicing the various keys? > > The reason I have the notion of a typing tutor app stuck in my head is because I had great success learning to touch type back in the 1980s by using a program called "Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing" which ran on MS-DOS and provided some entertaining games that held my attention and kept me practicing, but I was fully sighted at the time and that app was very visual. > > Thank you in advance for any insight, > Bryan > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Sep 6 22:18:56 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 22:18:56 +0100 Subject: Apple TV Second Generation [USB-Micro Interface] In-Reply-To: <1023F8DB-F291-43EC-8211-97F7BB43DF09@netspace.net.au> References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> <5E1B6A87-0708-47EA-B809-E0636F79C88F@mac-access.net> <1023F8DB-F291-43EC-8211-97F7BB43DF09@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <821A8A51-D5BB-49F4-9FDC-7CEC3EE34D4F@mac-access.net> Hello Vaughn At the risk of being accused of making volcanos out of rabbit holes or something similar, I'm going to continue this discussion because it's actually quite interesting. Regarding thinking it was a lock connector; that is a very easy mistake to make. It looks very much like a Kensington security lock from the outside; and if you're blind, it's more than excusable that you should overlook it or dismiss it as such. There isn't currently any documentation I've seen for the Apple TV which even makes reference to the fact that the port exists at all. And you have to look very closely at it in order to realise that it is actually an interface connector at all. But I'll tell you something else; so here goes with another mountain! So the technical boffins we've spoken too tell us, There is no reason why Apple couldn't utilise that port for user-level functionality. In fact, as I understand it that may very well happen. So if I'm making mountains out of molehills, fine, let that mountain stand. I'm no technical expert and I'd never claim to be. But given how much we use our Apple TV, I would be quite interested if Apple did opt to make the port user-accessible. It would certainly make life interesting if they do. Lynne On 6 Sep 2011, at 21:42, Vaughn Bennison wrote: OK, for some reason I thought that was a lock port or something, you know, like those locks for laptops etc! Very interesting. From moopiecurran at gmail.com Wed Sep 7 01:01:42 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 20:01:42 -0400 Subject: Jawbone Jambox, iPod touch and Skype Message-ID: <240E7C67-6C2C-4F54-9A4D-2146F1C3542C@gmail.com> Hi, Will the built-in mic on the jawbone jambox bluetooth speaker work with Skype? Courtney From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Sep 7 05:25:29 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 05:25:29 +0100 Subject: Jawbone Jambox, iPod touch and Skype In-Reply-To: <240E7C67-6C2C-4F54-9A4D-2146F1C3542C@gmail.com> References: <240E7C67-6C2C-4F54-9A4D-2146F1C3542C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55FB6C1B-22B5-4B80-B080-80F278EE87AC@mac-access.net> Yes. Lynne On 7 Sep 2011, at 01:01, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, Will the built-in mic on the jawbone jambox bluetooth speaker work with Skype? Courtney <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris at mysticplace.info Wed Sep 7 09:53:56 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 04:53:56 -0400 Subject: program that can backup specific folders Message-ID: <20110907045354.233E.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Hi all, I'm looking for a backup program that can backup specific folders to a share at specific times of the day. For example, I want one folder to backup daily at 6 am and perhaps another one to backup once a month. Is this possible? Thanks Chris - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Sep 7 10:00:26 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 10:00:26 +0100 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> Message-ID: What a steaming pile of .... All I can say is, that's what you get when you buy crap aka BUSH TVs! My Apple TV works fine with both of my Samsung TVs and works great with my Pioneer Plasma also. My only gripe with Apple TV is the lack of audio description content, and I would love it if there were UK specific apps. We have not got Netflix over here for example. Chris Sent from my iPhone On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:26, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi all! > > Yep, I know the subject line of this message is an absolute falsehood however there's an email doing the rounds which claims that those who have managed to access the Apple TV are telling lies? Well I've had one for over 8 months now and I've written things up as I've seen and experienced them so let's see what this chap has to say and you all can draw your own conclusions. > > I debated whether or not to quote this message but really Apple nor anyone else requires nonsense being spread around regarding their product, so read on folks. > > Hello all. > > I decided that I wanted to buy an Apple tv. > > But sadly to say, never again. > > Most of the so called accessible information posted by blind people in > relation to accessibility is totally inaccurate to say the least. > > If people who are blind are absolutely serious about buying an Apple > tv then please take note. > > 1. Your current home television, the one which sits in your living > room or bedroom must, yes must have both an h d m i port and an h d m > i channel. > > 2. It is definitely preferred by apple and also your home television > manufacturer that your home television has an internet connection > port. This must, yes must be a port which is capable of supporting a > wifi or wireless network. Cable broadband users should forget about > apple tv altogether. > > 3. If you really want an apple tv, you will definitely need an apple > computer. Even though iTunes is accessible with Jaws, this doesn't > guarantee you access to your apple tv. > > 4. If you are determined to register your apple tv using a computer, > you must buy what is called a micro usb cable. This cable must, yes, > must be correctly configured, tip, make sure you buy one direct from > apple. Take no chances on using another micro usb cable. The small > end of this cable goes in to your apple tv, and the large end goes in > to a usb port on your apple computer. > > 5. If you get the device showing in iTunes, but there is no version > number of the current software being displayed which happened in my > case, do not, I repeat do not attempt to restore this device to > factory defaults without sighted assistance. Take it to an apple > store and get them to do it for you. > > 6. Your wifi network or wireless network must, yes must be what is > called 801 compatible, and it must be able to stream video content. I > was stupid enough not to have checked this with my network provider, I > had the right wifi compatibility, but it wasn't capable of video > streaming. > > 7. You will also need to purchase what is called an h d m i cable. > Definite tip, again, purchase this cable from an actual apple store > for correct configuration. > > 8. Insure your home television is less than 12 months old, because > believe me, tech support I had to get to see if it was my home > television which was at fault was ridiculously overpriced to say the > least. > > 9. Insure your home television has the latest hardware available for > the model, if there is any software available which can be installed, > insure the latest version of this software is installed. > > Apple tv in my case wasn't accessible in the least. > > This is sad, because Apple even claims it can be made to work with > voice over at the very least. > > Well, I tried 2 Apple tv's, sorry Apple, never again. > > Even if I could be bothered upgrading my home television, Apple tv is > definitely not going to be for me. > > Finally, the positives. > > Apple were extremely patient and helpful from their end which is more > than I can say for bush the maker of my home television. I had to > call a 1902 number, pay $2.95 a minute, and they promised to call me > back, but I had to chase them myself. > > As I say, Apple were extremely patient with me, they at least got the > second apple tv working with iTunes and voice over, but the home > television just wouldn't accept the apple tv. We kept getting a usb > cable missing flashing message, and there was nothing we could do to > get rid of it, because for a start, my home tv doesn't have a usb > cable connection anyway. > > I hope that somebody who is blind can make Apple tv work for you. > > Please, I have spent 3 weeks work of research in my case, I assure > everyone, my information, especially in my case is thoroughly > accurate, truthful and correct to the very best of my knowledge. > > I sincerely hope that other people who are blind will have much more > joy than I have had. > > Please, feel free to forward my email to any appropriate discussions > lists or groups, I give you here and now my full written permission to > do so. > > Please also feel free to email me off list, I am, I can assure you, > especially interested, in hearing if other people who are blind can > actually get apple tv, both fully working and fully accessible. > > -- > Dane Trethowan > Sending email from his EEEPC Netbook > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Sep 7 10:04:41 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 10:04:41 +0100 Subject: program that can backup specific folders In-Reply-To: <20110907045354.233E.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <20110907045354.233E.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <02033123-B67B-4572-96B4-9C3DA209D484@mac-access.net> Hi Chris I can't tell you how you'd do it but I'm sure this would be a piece of cake using an Apple script or an Automator workflow. Gordon On 7 Sep 2011, at 09:53, Chris G wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for a backup program that can backup specific folders to a share at specific times of the day. For example, I want one folder to backup daily at 6 am and perhaps another one to backup once a month. Is this possible? Thanks Chris - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Sep 7 10:17:29 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 10:17:29 +0100 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <6B002B55-F23A-4601-86C4-E2CE9337FA04@mac-access.net> Hi Chris I could be wrong but I thought you could now buy audio described movies in the iTunes store when you're using an Apple TV. I've never looked for this but I thought it was something that I'd seen discussed in here a while back. As for the Apple TV, you're dead right. I honestly don't know where these people get their ideas from but it really would be nice if, instead of just presuming that because they don't know how to do something, it can't be done. Don't get me wrong, we're none of us perfect. We all make mistakes and anybody who claims that they know it all is a stinking hypocrite and a blatant liar! But sadly it seems that some people will just presume rather than lowering themselves to ask questions and it's odd how many times you see this with the Microsoft die-hards, in relation to Apple. There's a lot of misinformation floating around out there and I think a lot of it is deliberately started by those who, shall we say, have ulterior motives which give them a very big incentive to persuade the gullible that Apple's products are this, that or the other, or are not this, that or the other. And the key word usually seems to be "Accessible", with a prepending "Not"! Nobody could ever claim that Apple's products are perfect and nobody could ever deny that they have a lot of work still to do. But all the same, the deliberate lies really should be stamped out. With regards Apple TV, I regularly use ours to watch movies without Lynne being present. It really isn't difficult most of the time. So yes, unfortunately some of the visually impaired on the generic lists are their own worst enemies at times. Ah well, at least we know the truth and if they're too stubborn to see it, we must rise above it I guess, try not to lose too much sleep over them. :) Gordon On 7 Sep 2011, at 10:00, Chris Moore wrote: What a steaming pile of .... All I can say is, that's what you get when you buy crap aka BUSH TVs! My Apple TV works fine with both of my Samsung TVs and works great with my Pioneer Plasma also. My only gripe with Apple TV is the lack of audio description content, and I would love it if there were UK specific apps. We have not got Netflix over here for example. Chris Sent from my iPhone On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:26, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi all! > > Yep, I know the subject line of this message is an absolute falsehood however there's an email doing the rounds which claims that those who have managed to access the Apple TV are telling lies? Well I've had one for over 8 months now and I've written things up as I've seen and experienced them so let's see what this chap has to say and you all can draw your own conclusions. > > I debated whether or not to quote this message but really Apple nor anyone else requires nonsense being spread around regarding their product, so read on folks. > > Hello all. > > I decided that I wanted to buy an Apple tv. > > But sadly to say, never again. > > Most of the so called accessible information posted by blind people in > relation to accessibility is totally inaccurate to say the least. > > If people who are blind are absolutely serious about buying an Apple > tv then please take note. > > 1. Your current home television, the one which sits in your living > room or bedroom must, yes must have both an h d m i port and an h d m > i channel. > > 2. It is definitely preferred by apple and also your home television > manufacturer that your home television has an internet connection > port. This must, yes must be a port which is capable of supporting a > wifi or wireless network. Cable broadband users should forget about > apple tv altogether. > > 3. If you really want an apple tv, you will definitely need an apple > computer. Even though iTunes is accessible with Jaws, this doesn't > guarantee you access to your apple tv. > > 4. If you are determined to register your apple tv using a computer, > you must buy what is called a micro usb cable. This cable must, yes, > must be correctly configured, tip, make sure you buy one direct from > apple. Take no chances on using another micro usb cable. The small > end of this cable goes in to your apple tv, and the large end goes in > to a usb port on your apple computer. > > 5. If you get the device showing in iTunes, but there is no version > number of the current software being displayed which happened in my > case, do not, I repeat do not attempt to restore this device to > factory defaults without sighted assistance. Take it to an apple > store and get them to do it for you. > > 6. Your wifi network or wireless network must, yes must be what is > called 801 compatible, and it must be able to stream video content. I > was stupid enough not to have checked this with my network provider, I > had the right wifi compatibility, but it wasn't capable of video > streaming. > > 7. You will also need to purchase what is called an h d m i cable. > Definite tip, again, purchase this cable from an actual apple store > for correct configuration. > > 8. Insure your home television is less than 12 months old, because > believe me, tech support I had to get to see if it was my home > television which was at fault was ridiculously overpriced to say the > least. > > 9. Insure your home television has the latest hardware available for > the model, if there is any software available which can be installed, > insure the latest version of this software is installed. > > Apple tv in my case wasn't accessible in the least. > > This is sad, because Apple even claims it can be made to work with > voice over at the very least. > > Well, I tried 2 Apple tv's, sorry Apple, never again. > > Even if I could be bothered upgrading my home television, Apple tv is > definitely not going to be for me. > > Finally, the positives. > > Apple were extremely patient and helpful from their end which is more > than I can say for bush the maker of my home television. I had to > call a 1902 number, pay $2.95 a minute, and they promised to call me > back, but I had to chase them myself. > > As I say, Apple were extremely patient with me, they at least got the > second apple tv working with iTunes and voice over, but the home > television just wouldn't accept the apple tv. We kept getting a usb > cable missing flashing message, and there was nothing we could do to > get rid of it, because for a start, my home tv doesn't have a usb > cable connection anyway. > > I hope that somebody who is blind can make Apple tv work for you. > > Please, I have spent 3 weeks work of research in my case, I assure > everyone, my information, especially in my case is thoroughly > accurate, truthful and correct to the very best of my knowledge. > > I sincerely hope that other people who are blind will have much more > joy than I have had. > > Please, feel free to forward my email to any appropriate discussions > lists or groups, I give you here and now my full written permission to > do so. > > Please also feel free to email me off list, I am, I can assure you, > especially interested, in hearing if other people who are blind can > actually get apple tv, both fully working and fully accessible. > > -- > Dane Trethowan > Sending email from his EEEPC Netbook > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris at mysticplace.info Wed Sep 7 11:36:21 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 06:36:21 -0400 Subject: program that can backup specific folders In-Reply-To: <02033123-B67B-4572-96B4-9C3DA209D484@mac-access.net> References: <20110907045354.233E.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> <02033123-B67B-4572-96B4-9C3DA209D484@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <20110907063620.CAD3.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Hi, Seems like getbackup might foot the bill. http://www.belightsoft.com/products/getbackup/proversion.php Chris On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 10:04:41 +0100 Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Chris > > I can't tell you how you'd do it but I'm sure this would be a piece of cake using an Apple script or an Automator workflow. > > Gordon > > On 7 Sep 2011, at 09:53, Chris G wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm looking for a backup program that can backup specific folders to a > share at specific times of the day. For example, I want one folder to > backup daily at 6 am and perhaps another one to backup once a month. > > Is this possible? > Thanks > Chris > > - > The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. > http://www.mysticplace.info > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Sep 7 12:54:37 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:54:37 +0100 Subject: program that can backup specific folders In-Reply-To: <20110907063620.CAD3.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <20110907045354.233E.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> <02033123-B67B-4572-96B4-9C3DA209D484@mac-access.net> <20110907063620.CAD3.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: Hi Chris From memory, was it not you who asked the question in the first place? :) Gordon On 7 Sep 2011, at 11:36, Chris G wrote: Seems like getbackup might foot the bill. http://www.belightsoft.com/products/getbackup/proversion.php From chris at mysticplace.info Wed Sep 7 15:42:33 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:42:33 -0400 Subject: program that can backup specific folders In-Reply-To: References: <20110907063620.CAD3.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <20110907104231.A98E.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> It was, your memory is not failing you (smile.) I just thought I'd try here first to see if there were any speech friendly options, then decided to do some downloading/installing and found that one. On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:54:37 +0100 Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Chris > > From memory, was it not you who asked the question in the first place? :) > > Gordon > > On 7 Sep 2011, at 11:36, Chris G wrote: > > Seems like getbackup might foot the bill. > http://www.belightsoft.com/products/getbackup/proversion.php > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From opensesame at me.com Wed Sep 7 19:32:42 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 14:32:42 -0400 Subject: Adobe Flash Player 11 RC1 released but still appears to be inaccessible Message-ID: Subject line says it all. I wasn't really expecting much, so am not too disappointed. Here's my post to the ongoing thread in response to Adobe's proclamation 18 months ago that they would be bringing accessibility to Flash on all platforms. I've pasted some links below if you're interested in trying the Flash RC1 candidate and if you're pissed off enough to add a post to the ongoing and lately ignored thread. "Flash Player 11 RC1 is available as of 06 Sep 2011. I've tried it and it doesn't appear to be any more accessible than previous Flash versions on MacOS. The release notes don't mention accessibility except to note an incompatibility between jaws/window-eyes and IE 9 on Windows. Even the install process, which still inexplicably uses the non-standard "Adobe Install Manager" is not accessible using standard VO procedures. You'll need to tab through the install manager choices, hope you've selected the correct options, and then listen closely for VO to announce "Done" to know the process is completed. Once installed, the same accessible Flash Player Preference Pane is available in System Preferences, but there are no settings related to accessibility. If anyone from Adobe is still monitoring this topic, could you please correct me if I'm wrong and describe how the Flash Player 11 Release Candidate can be used with VoiceOver on MacOS Lion? Regards, Bryan Link to Adobe's March 2010 announcement of upcoming support for accessibility in Flash on all platforms. You can post a comment at this site if so inclined. http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html Link to the download page for Adobe Flash 11 RC1: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer11.html From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Sep 8 14:42:52 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 14:42:52 +0100 Subject: program that can backup specific folders In-Reply-To: <20110907104231.A98E.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <20110907063620.CAD3.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> <20110907104231.A98E.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <572416DA-B995-41C6-B387-E22FD17AC477@mac-access.net> Hi Chris Nothing whatever wrong with that. :) Did it work for you by the way? I think though that you could probably achieve the sane results given the knowledge of how the system works, by using a workflow. In fact, I'm pretty sure you could. I'm really going to have to try and find the time to mess around with Automator a bit, because I'm sure it's a very useful little tool. I just seem to be snowed under all the time, and now is no exception. On 7 Sep 2011, at 15:42, Chris G wrote: It was, your memory is not failing you (smile.) I just thought I'd try here first to see if there were any speech friendly options, then decided to do some downloading/installing and found that one. On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:54:37 +0100 Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Chris > > From memory, was it not you who asked the question in the first place? :) > > Gordon > > On 7 Sep 2011, at 11:36, Chris G wrote: > > Seems like getbackup might foot the bill. > http://www.belightsoft.com/products/getbackup/proversion.php > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moopiecurran at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 16:18:27 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:18:27 -0400 Subject: my talk site with the mac Message-ID: <4D94A8E0-6F8A-40ED-AFDB-937FD43EDA08@gmail.com> Hi, Is there any way for me to get through the mytalk site with the mac without sighted help? Thanks, Courtney From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Sep 8 16:19:54 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:19:54 +0100 Subject: my talk site with the mac In-Reply-To: <4D94A8E0-6F8A-40ED-AFDB-937FD43EDA08@gmail.com> References: <4D94A8E0-6F8A-40ED-AFDB-937FD43EDA08@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9B52C084-3E6A-4637-9C55-D3163E7A575B@mac-access.net> Hello Courtney, What is it? If you provide a link, I'll see what I can do to help. Maybe send it off-list. TC :) james On 8 Sep 2011, at 16:18, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Is there any way for me to get through the mytalk site with the mac without sighted help? > Thanks, > Courtney > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 16:35:11 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:35:11 -0400 Subject: Recording from the Internet Message-ID: <3D64CBCC-DE83-4A00-8524-28AB59DDBDF0@gmail.com> Hi, Is there a program that anyone can recommend that will record an internet stream. I used to do this with total Recorder and am looking for something that will work with my Mac Mini. Thanks. Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Thu Sep 8 17:03:26 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:03:26 +0100 Subject: Recording from the Internet In-Reply-To: <3D64CBCC-DE83-4A00-8524-28AB59DDBDF0@gmail.com> References: <3D64CBCC-DE83-4A00-8524-28AB59DDBDF0@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Kristeen! Well audio hijack pro says if you can hear it you can record it! And quite a lot of people seem to like it! hth Colin On 8 Sep 2011, at 16:35, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > Hi, > Is there a program that anyone can recommend that will record an internet stream. I used to do this with total Recorder and am looking for something that will work with my Mac Mini. > > Thanks. > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 16:57:20 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 10:57:20 -0500 Subject: Recording from the Internet References: <3D64CBCC-DE83-4A00-8524-28AB59DDBDF0@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Kristeen, I'm sure there are other options, but I've had success with AudioHijackPro -- it isn't quite as robust as TR IMHO, but has a scheduler and other features and is very accessible. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Kristeen Hughes To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:35 AM Subject: Recording from the Internet Hi, Is there a program that anyone can recommend that will record an internet stream. I used to do this with total Recorder and am looking for something that will work with my Mac Mini. Thanks. Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris at mysticplace.info Thu Sep 8 17:19:39 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 12:19:39 -0400 Subject: program that can backup specific folders In-Reply-To: <572416DA-B995-41C6-B387-E22FD17AC477@mac-access.net> References: <20110907104231.A98E.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> <572416DA-B995-41C6-B387-E22FD17AC477@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <20110908121938.736E.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 14:42:52 +0100 Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Chris > > Nothing whatever wrong with that. :) Did it work for you Yep, it did work. had the machine off last night and turned it on. It missed my 6:30 am backup, so it ran the backup when the machine booted. - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From eleanorsouthwood at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 17:35:50 2011 From: eleanorsouthwood at gmail.com (Eleanor Southwood) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:35:50 +0100 Subject: Can anyone help with Iplayer Downloader? Message-ID: <9525904C-B08A-4762-893F-E7BD66AFC6A5@gmail.com> Hi all, I'm trying to use Iplayer Downloader version 4 to access content from the BBC Iplayer. However, I just can't work out how to select the programmes for it to download. Does anyone have detailed, step-by-step instructions? Thanks, Ellie From tmallalieu at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 16:32:17 2011 From: tmallalieu at gmail.com (Thuy) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:32:17 +0100 Subject: Braille Displays and iPod Touch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Desi. My favourite compact Braille displays are: BrailleConnect 12 from Baum/Humanware, Esys 12 from Eurobraille, and Braillesense 18 from HIMS. I know also that the Braille Pen 12 works well with the IOS devices and all of these keep their bluetooth pairings as far as I'm aware. Hope this helps? Cheers Thuy On 30/08/2011, Desi Noller wrote: > As many here on list have read, I own a Refresh-a-Braille 18 which I have > been using with my iPod touch. Every time I turn off Bluetooth to save > battery power, (this is of course only when I'm not using braille), when I > turn Bluetooth back on, I have often lost my pairing, and have to pair the > two devices again! This is a total pain, and I'm wondering what other small > Braille displays others are using with their i devices, and if there are any > out there that seem to be more compatible! Thanks so much in advance! > > Desi > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 8 19:37:14 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 19:37:14 +0100 Subject: Dropbox App Message-ID: <5A24B86A-7250-468D-A2D3-60B25F82D1DE@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Does anybody happen to know whether there's any update to Dropbox that's out of beta and officially works with Lion yet? Lynne From dragoncatmc at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 20:35:51 2011 From: dragoncatmc at gmail.com (Marcia Yale) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:35:51 -0400 Subject: New user, accidentally turned speech off Message-ID: <00ce01cc6e5e$8693b4f0$93bb1ed0$@gmail.com> I am a new user of a brand new MacBook Air and I was setting up my VoiceOver preferences and managed to turn speech off! I know I never consciously turned on the trackpad commander, so I am unable to restart speech using that method. Is there a key combination that will fix my trouble, or somewhere that I can read and follow directions to get back into that part of the utility to fix it? Marcia Yale "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day I can hear her breathing."--Arundhati Roy From khwicca at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 20:36:16 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:36:16 -0400 Subject: Recording from the Internet In-Reply-To: References: <3D64CBCC-DE83-4A00-8524-28AB59DDBDF0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <008b01cc6e5e$94f076f0$bed164d0$@com> Thanks for the suggestion. I'm gonna check it out. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Geoff Waaler Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:57 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Recording from the Internet Hi Kristeen, I'm sure there are other options, but I've had success with AudioHijackPro -- it isn't quite as robust as TR IMHO, but has a scheduler and other features and is very accessible. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Kristeen Hughes To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:35 AM Subject: Recording from the Internet Hi, Is there a program that anyone can recommend that will record an internet stream. I used to do this with total Recorder and am looking for something that will work with my Mac Mini. Thanks. Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From support at mac-access.net Thu Sep 8 20:46:21 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 20:46:21 +0100 Subject: Doubl New Member Welcome Message-ID: Hello everybody It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: Marcia Yale and Tracy, (No Surname Available) to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access. Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the position. If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne ------------------------------ Gordon & Lynne Smith, ------------------------------ From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 8 20:49:11 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 20:49:11 +0100 Subject: my talk site with the mac In-Reply-To: <4D94A8E0-6F8A-40ED-AFDB-937FD43EDA08@gmail.com> References: <4D94A8E0-6F8A-40ED-AFDB-937FD43EDA08@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51008036-AED7-4B6F-9E40-CE61A2A23AF9@mac-access.net> Courtney This was discussed at the weekend. It is in the list archives. :) Yes, but it's quite tricky. This is outlined in my review of the Jambox. Lynne On 8 Sep 2011, at 16:18, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, Is there any way for me to get through the mytalk site with the mac without sighted help? Thanks, Courtney <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 8 20:50:23 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 20:50:23 +0100 Subject: my talk site with the mac In-Reply-To: <9B52C084-3E6A-4637-9C55-D3163E7A575B@mac-access.net> References: <4D94A8E0-6F8A-40ED-AFDB-937FD43EDA08@gmail.com> <9B52C084-3E6A-4637-9C55-D3163E7A575B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <52880870-63F1-4A50-8978-F34D46C8CB56@mac-access.net> James You won't be able to do it because you cannot replicate the circumstances without the hardware. Lynne On 8 Sep 2011, at 16:19, James AUSTIN wrote: Hello Courtney, What is it? If you provide a link, I'll see what I can do to help. Maybe send it off-list. TC :) james On 8 Sep 2011, at 16:18, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Is there any way for me to get through the mytalk site with the mac without sighted help? > Thanks, > Courtney > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moriond at mac.com Thu Sep 8 20:52:59 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 09:52:59 -1000 Subject: New user, accidentally turned speech off In-Reply-To: <00ce01cc6e5e$8693b4f0$93bb1ed0$@gmail.com> References: <00ce01cc6e5e$8693b4f0$93bb1ed0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Marcia, If you turned speech off rather than VoiceOver (i.e., you can't use Command+F5 to toggle VoiceOver back on), then you may either have turned the speech volume way down, or muted your audio by pressing the F10 key. (It might be Fn+F10, depending on how you have set up your keyboard preferences). If the volume is all the way down, you can get control of your pitch, intonation, rate, and volume with VO-Command+arrow keys, where you cycle through the option settings with Control+Option+Command+Right or Left arrow, and adjust the values with VO-Command-Up or Down arrow. It you muted all you audio by mistake, pressing either the F12 key (or Fn+F12, depending on your setup), will take the volume back up. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 8, 2011, at 09:35, Marcia Yale wrote: > I am a new user of a brand new MacBook Air and I was setting up my VoiceOver > preferences and managed to turn speech off! I know I never consciously > turned on the trackpad commander, so I am unable to restart speech using > that method. Is there a key combination that will fix my trouble, or > somewhere that I can read and follow directions to get back into that part > of the utility to fix it? > > > Marcia Yale > "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day I can > hear her breathing."--Arundhati Roy > > > From desiandcandy at q.com Thu Sep 8 21:22:37 2011 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 13:22:37 -0700 Subject: Braille Displays and iPod Touch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80FB49BB-4EF2-492F-A74B-FB64EA8CAF31@q.com> Hello Thuy, Thanks so much for the recommendations! As it turns out, I have just purchased a BrailleSense Plus, and in order to replenish my very limited funds, I am trying to sell my Refresh-a-Braille 18. After a little coaching from a friend, I was able to get it to work very nicely with my iPod Touch, but need to finance my BrailleSense. If anyone using an iPhone or iPod Touch would be interested in buying it, please contact me off list. My e-mail is: mailto:desiandcandy at q.com Contacting me off list is vitally important as I don't want the list mods to get upset with me. I wanted to mention it here, because many of us who use iOS devices like to do so with the aid of a braille display. Desi On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Thuy wrote: > Hi Desi. My favourite compact Braille displays are: BrailleConnect 12 > from Baum/Humanware, Esys 12 from Eurobraille, and Braillesense 18 > from HIMS. I know also that the Braille Pen 12 works well with the IOS > devices and all of these keep their bluetooth pairings as far as I'm > aware. Hope this helps? > > Cheers > > Thuy > > > On 30/08/2011, Desi Noller wrote: >> As many here on list have read, I own a Refresh-a-Braille 18 which I have >> been using with my iPod touch. Every time I turn off Bluetooth to save >> battery power, (this is of course only when I'm not using braille), when I >> turn Bluetooth back on, I have often lost my pairing, and have to pair the >> two devices again! This is a total pain, and I'm wondering what other small >> Braille displays others are using with their i devices, and if there are any >> out there that seem to be more compatible! Thanks so much in advance! >> >> Desi >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 21:41:24 2011 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:41:24 -0400 Subject: Audacity Question Message-ID: <5701FA65-B685-46AC-9A8C-F2E319ACFDC0@gmail.com> I have 10 files I want to combine into 1 within Audacity. I imported all the files in, and they all show up in separate windows. How do I tell Audacity to put them all together, and what order to use? Jane From dragoncatmc at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 22:17:11 2011 From: dragoncatmc at gmail.com (Marcia Yale) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:17:11 -0400 Subject: New user, accidentally turned speech off In-Reply-To: References: <00ce01cc6e5e$8693b4f0$93bb1ed0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00ea01cc6e6c$adf48bb0$09dda310$@gmail.com> Actually, I accidentally solved my own problem by trying the VO-Command-right-arrow and as soon as I started the cycle and it hit the voice option for Alex, Alex was back! Hopefully I'll be able to solve most of the problems I create for myself in the future as easily but quicker, before I send frantic messages for help everywhere! -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:53 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: New user, accidentally turned speech off Hi Marcia, If you turned speech off rather than VoiceOver (i.e., you can't use Command+F5 to toggle VoiceOver back on), then you may either have turned the speech volume way down, or muted your audio by pressing the F10 key. (It might be Fn+F10, depending on how you have set up your keyboard preferences). If the volume is all the way down, you can get control of your pitch, intonation, rate, and volume with VO-Command+arrow keys, where you cycle through the option settings with Control+Option+Command+Right or Left arrow, and adjust the values with VO-Command-Up or Down arrow. It you muted all you audio by mistake, pressing either the F12 key (or Fn+F12, depending on your setup), will take the volume back up. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 8, 2011, at 09:35, Marcia Yale wrote: > I am a new user of a brand new MacBook Air and I was setting up my > VoiceOver preferences and managed to turn speech off! I know I never > consciously turned on the trackpad commander, so I am unable to > restart speech using that method. Is there a key combination that will > fix my trouble, or somewhere that I can read and follow directions to > get back into that part of the utility to fix it? > > > Marcia Yale > "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day > I can hear her breathing."--Arundhati Roy > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Sep 8 22:41:09 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 22:41:09 +0100 Subject: iPlayer Automator Ip Message-ID: <2FA21E47-D9FA-4032-902C-09D00EAB4B4A@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I have been playing with the free app "Get iPlayer Automator" on Lion 10.7.1 and have successfully downloaded and played both radio and TV content from the BBC. There is very little documentation but the following works.... First you must change the default preferences. Under General Preferences set Proxy to None and choose a download path rather than use the default path. YOu might also want to change the types of content which can be downloaded by checking the desired boxes. Now type a program name into the search string. I tried it with "Horizon" (TV) which resulted in several episodes of Horizon being displayed in the search results. I chose one of these and then pressed the "Add to queue" button. next go to the Toolbar and press the "Start" button. The requested episode of Horizon will start downloading into the folder you specified when you chose the download path. YOu can then locate the desired episode and press Command+DownArrow to open it and presto the episode starts playing! I have only spent a couple of hours on this and there are several other options to be explored. It is all accessible. Have fun and keep us posted on anything you learn.... Paul Hopewell From billd at insightbb.com Fri Sep 9 03:13:02 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (Bill Deatherage) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 22:13:02 -0400 Subject: IPhone appfor either xM or Serious Message-ID: <3D3890A58B904773819FC32DD86A49EB@OwnerHP> Hello, I had an app for serious satellite radio but it wouldn?t allow me to changethe channels. I was wondering if anyone had an app for either sirius satellite radio or xm for the Iphone that was accessible with voice over? Thanks in advance. Bill Deatherage From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Sep 9 03:39:13 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:39:13 +1000 Subject: More on 1 Password Message-ID: <668B31D3-A7CE-4D01-9779-B0584B29969E@internode.on.net> One can't say that the developers of the 1 Password applications are idle , another update for 1 Password for Mac was released a few hours ago. Congratulations to the 1 password team, 1 Password for Iphone app is now number 3 on the Apps Store, neat! From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Fri Sep 9 03:46:51 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:46:51 -0500 Subject: IPhone appfor either xM or Serious References: <3D3890A58B904773819FC32DD86A49EB@OwnerHP> Message-ID: <386FFD9BBAA24D6685610AB3F2C84BCC@joseph1> not one that gets every channel, such as the newly implemented sports play-by-play ones. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Deatherage" To: Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:13 PM Subject: IPhone appfor either xM or Serious > Hello, > I had an app for serious satellite radio but it wouldn?t allow me to > changethe channels. I was wondering if anyone had an app for either sirius > satellite radio or xm for the Iphone that was accessible with voice > over? > Thanks in advance. > Bill Deatherage > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From billd at insightbb.com Fri Sep 9 04:27:09 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (Bill Deatherage) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 23:27:09 -0400 Subject: Iphone apps for sirious and xm Message-ID: <5842C0D4CFA147DA9AF1132A06E91F26@OwnerHP> Hello, I would be happy if I could get an app for my Iphone that would allow me to use sirious or xm on my Iphone before the last change in the channell line up. I mostly listen to music stations on it. I know they now have channells that are only accessed by internet only but those are not the ones I listen to so if I could get an app for my Iphone that would allow me to either listen to the music on either XM or Sirious I would be quite happy. I had one but after selecting the first channel it would allow me to change to another channell. well, thanks in advance. Bill Deatherage From candiestiles at me.com Fri Sep 9 05:00:52 2011 From: candiestiles at me.com (Candie Stiles) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 21:00:52 -0700 Subject: IPhone appfor either xM or Serious In-Reply-To: <3D3890A58B904773819FC32DD86A49EB@OwnerHP> References: <3D3890A58B904773819FC32DD86A49EB@OwnerHP> Message-ID: <3B105F82-9A5D-4925-9A75-9121CE0AB808@me.com> I have music doc and it works well with Sirius. It is very accessible with vo and you can definitely see all the channels with it. I'm not sure if you get less stations while using music doc than you would using the sirius app. On Sep 8, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Bill Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I had an app for serious satellite radio but it wouldn?t allow me to changethe channels. I was wondering if anyone had an app for either sirius satellite radio or xm for the Iphone that was accessible with voice over? > Thanks in advance. > Bill Deatherage > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From candiestiles at me.com Fri Sep 9 05:06:28 2011 From: candiestiles at me.com (Candie Stiles) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 21:06:28 -0700 Subject: Iphone apps for sirious and xm In-Reply-To: <5842C0D4CFA147DA9AF1132A06E91F26@OwnerHP> References: <5842C0D4CFA147DA9AF1132A06E91F26@OwnerHP> Message-ID: <8BFBCCE8-281D-4CA8-93C7-4E8D9EA778B2@me.com> The Music Doc app works well and you can get many music stations with it. Once you download it from the app store, enter your account windo and you'll be off and running. On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:27 PM, Bill Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I would be happy if I could get an app for my Iphone that would allow me to use sirious or xm on my Iphone before the last change in the channell line up. I mostly listen to music stations on it. I know they now have channells that are only accessed by internet only but those are not the ones I listen to so if I could get an app for my Iphone that would allow me to either listen to the music on either XM or Sirious I would be quite happy. I had one but after selecting the first channel it would allow me to change to another channell. > well, thanks in advance. > Bill Deatherage > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Fri Sep 9 07:31:35 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 01:31:35 -0500 Subject: Iphone apps for sirious and xm References: <5842C0D4CFA147DA9AF1132A06E91F26@OwnerHP> <8BFBCCE8-281D-4CA8-93C7-4E8D9EA778B2@me.com> Message-ID: <8B921BC803BC4B6A8C8F6A1B13FAF27F@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Totally agree about MusicDoc, and more over using voiceover, one can ascertain what's on all channels. I suspect this would be perfect for Bill's stated requirements. For me I have the added subscription to Sirius exclusive content such as the NFL. This year on-line only channels 661-885 were added to broadcast play by play. This content is available in Pulsar but not yet in MusicDoc . Otherwise, I agree with others in strongly suggesting MusicDoc. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Candie Stiles To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:06 PM Subject: Re: Iphone apps for sirious and xm The Music Doc app works well and you can get many music stations with it. Once you download it from the app store, enter your account windo and you'll be off and running. On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:27 PM, Bill Deatherage wrote: > Hello, > I would be happy if I could get an app for my Iphone that would allow me to use sirious or xm on my Iphone before the last change in the channell line up. I mostly listen to music stations on it. I know they now have channells that are only accessed by internet only but those are not the ones I listen to so if I could get an app for my Iphone that would allow me to either listen to the music on either XM or Sirious I would be quite happy. I had one but after selecting the first channel it would allow me to change to another channell. > well, thanks in advance. > Bill Deatherage > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From dragoncatmc at gmail.com Fri Sep 9 07:31:52 2011 From: dragoncatmc at gmail.com (Marcia Yale) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 02:31:52 -0400 Subject: Resetting Mail Defaults and MobileMe setup issue Message-ID: <018601cc6eba$2a611680$7f234380$@gmail.com> Is there a way to reset the defaults in Mail? I had a bit of trouble figuring out the server tables when I was setting up my email account and I managed to mess up the MobileMe outgoing server. It seems that, no matter what I do, I can't seem to correct the problem. I would prefer not to have to delete my whole account as I don't want to lose the items that have arrived in my inbox there, but I found the export function so I may just do that if it would help resolve the MobileMe mess! Any suggestions? Also, I haven't been able to set MobileMe up, either--do I need an Apple Id first? Marcia Yale "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day I can hear her breathing."--Arundhati Roy From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Sep 9 09:01:23 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:01:23 +0100 Subject: iPlayer Automator works on Lion! Message-ID: <91A57BF6-F020-4AA7-A52A-29E51E2234AF@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I have been playing with the free app "Get iPlayer Automator" on Lion 10.7.1 and have successfully downloaded and played both radio and TV content from the BBC. Google "iPlayer Automator" to download it. There is very little documentation but the following works.... First you must change the default preferences. Under General Preferences set Proxy to None and choose a download path rather than use the default path. YOu might also want to change the types of content which can be downloaded by checking the desired boxes for example to add BBC Radio. Now type a program name into the search string. I tried it with "Horizon" (TV) which resulted in several episodes of Horizon being displayed in the search results. I chose one of these and then pressed the "Add to queue" button. I also tried "Today" (Radio) with similar results. next go to the Toolbar and press the "Start" button. The requested episode of Horizon and Today will start downloading into the folder you specified when you chose the download path. YOu can then locate the desired episode and press Command+DownArrow to open it and presto the episode starts playing! I have only spent a couple of hours on this and there are several other options to be explored. It is all accessible. The provided proxy probably allows users outside the UK to download content. Other options suggest you can add a program you have located via Safari (for example a program with Audio Description) to the download queue. Other options suggest you can arrange to automatically download episodes of your favourite programs as they become available. Note that I have not tried any of these which might or might not do what their titles imply. Have fun and keep us posted on anything you learn.... Paul Hopewell From chris at mysticplace.info Fri Sep 9 09:43:11 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 04:43:11 -0400 Subject: IPhone appfor either xM or Serious In-Reply-To: <3B105F82-9A5D-4925-9A75-9121CE0AB808@me.com> References: <3D3890A58B904773819FC32DD86A49EB@OwnerHP> <3B105F82-9A5D-4925-9A75-9121CE0AB808@me.com> Message-ID: <20110909044310.CD08.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> You get the same number of channels. 127. There are some that you don't get like live sports. I also will put my vote in for Music Doc. On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 21:00:52 -0700 Candie Stiles wrote: > I have music doc and it works well with Sirius. It is very accessible with vo and you can definitely see all the channels with it. I'm not sure if you get less stations while using music doc than you would using the sirius app. > On Sep 8, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Bill Deatherage wrote: > > > Hello, > > I had an app for serious satellite radio but it wouldn?t allow me to changethe channels. I was wondering if anyone had an app for either sirius satellite radio or xm for the Iphone that was accessible with voice over? > > Thanks in advance. > > Bill Deatherage > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Fri Sep 9 14:59:47 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 08:59:47 -0500 Subject: Apple TV Second Generation [USB-Micro Interface] In-Reply-To: <821A8A51-D5BB-49F4-9FDC-7CEC3EE34D4F@mac-access.net> References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> <4E62108C.2000507@internode.on.net> <4E62164D.5010101@internode.on.net> <55DC2A4C-4F3F-4DA3-883C-8280C8F12894@netspace.net.au> <5E1B6A87-0708-47EA-B809-E0636F79C88F@mac-access.net> <1023F8DB-F291-43EC-8211-97F7BB43DF09@netspace.net.au> <821A8A51-D5BB-49F4-9FDC-7CEC3EE34D4F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Micro USB slot on Apple TV 2 is not meant to be used by users, but by technicians or developers. It can be used to obtain device logs, install betas, and a few other things (none of which most users will ever do). Kevin On 9/6/11, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Vaughn > > At the risk of being accused of making volcanos out of rabbit holes or > something similar, I'm going to continue this discussion because it's > actually quite interesting. Regarding thinking it was a lock connector; that > is a very easy mistake to make. It looks very much like a Kensington > security lock from the outside; and if you're blind, it's more than > excusable that you should overlook it or dismiss it as such. There isn't > currently any documentation I've seen for the Apple TV which even makes > reference to the fact that the port exists at all. And you have to look very > closely at it in order to realise that it is actually an interface connector > at all. But I'll tell you something else; so here goes with another > mountain! So the technical boffins we've spoken too tell us, There is no > reason why Apple couldn't utilise that port for user-level functionality. In > fact, as I understand it that may very well happen. So if I'm making > mountains out of molehills, fine, let that mounta > in stand. I'm no technical expert and I'd never claim to be. But given how > much we use our Apple TV, I would be quite interested if Apple did opt to > make the port user-accessible. It would certainly make life interesting if > they do. > > Lynne > > On 6 Sep 2011, at 21:42, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > > OK, for some reason I thought that was a lock port or something, you know, > like those locks for laptops etc! Very interesting. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Fri Sep 9 14:56:40 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 08:56:40 -0500 Subject: Dropbox App In-Reply-To: <5A24B86A-7250-468D-A2D3-60B25F82D1DE@mac-access.net> References: <5A24B86A-7250-468D-A2D3-60B25F82D1DE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Yes, back a few weeks ago, Dropbox made an update available that works with OS X Lion. Please obtain it from http://Dropbox.com It adds: * Dropbox shortcut menus (available when right clicking or VO-SHIFT-M on folders/files in Dropbox) * Voiceover speaks folder/file changes, IE: if a file was added, EG: test.rtf was added. Kevin On 9/8/11, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Does anybody happen to know whether there's any update to Dropbox that's out > of beta and officially works with Lion yet? > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Fri Sep 9 15:13:48 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:13:48 -0500 Subject: any pdf reading apps out there In-Reply-To: References: <21A9101E-84DB-41D9-BE32-7B3BDF7B6C94@bluebottle.com> <6011A27E-D7D5-471D-A806-3B6E5ABE48A7@softcon.com> Message-ID: I'm not aware of any other PDF reader, other than Preview and Digital Editions. Travis and others, I'm very curious to know what else is out there and works with VoiceOver on OS X Lion to read PDF's? Kevin On 9/2/11, krystal watson wrote: > its ok problem has been solved they were photoes in a pdf file thanks > On 02/09/2011, at 9:48 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> What do you mean by preview isn't reading them right. >> A bit more information could help folks to explain a work around, or (if >> absolutely necessary) another app. There are other programs for reading >> pdf files, but my experience is that rarely are they necessary. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Fri Sep 9 15:22:10 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:22:10 -0500 Subject: Recommendations for Word Processing On iPod Touch? In-Reply-To: <5CA49B35-E370-4696-8B8B-24D4397BEA8C@q.com> References: <5CA49B35-E370-4696-8B8B-24D4397BEA8C@q.com> Message-ID: If you need to work with text documents, .txt, no more, and or less; Plain Text is a wonderful, intuitive, simple, and great app that has Dropbox integration. There's an aad-supported and paid version of this VoiceOver accessible app. Kevin On 8/31/11, Desi Noller wrote: > I want to be able to transfer and work with text files on my iPod Touch. > Does anyone have recommendations for the best App to use for this? Thanks > in advance! > > Desi > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From desiandcandy at q.com Fri Sep 9 17:23:39 2011 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:23:39 -0700 Subject: Recommendations for Word Processing On iPod Touch? In-Reply-To: References: <5CA49B35-E370-4696-8B8B-24D4397BEA8C@q.com> Message-ID: <90C97405-5399-48BF-9CC7-8E7952C543ED@q.com> Thanks Kevin! That sounds like just what I'm looking for! Desi On Sep 9, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: > If you need to work with text documents, .txt, no more, and or less; > Plain Text is a wonderful, intuitive, simple, and great app that has > Dropbox integration. There's an aad-supported and paid version of this > VoiceOver accessible app. > > Kevin > On 8/31/11, Desi Noller wrote: >> I want to be able to transfer and work with text files on my iPod Touch. >> Does anyone have recommendations for the best App to use for this? Thanks >> in advance! >> >> Desi >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Sep 9 17:24:37 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 17:24:37 +0100 Subject: Drop Box question Message-ID: Hello, I am trying to instal the latest version of drop box on Lion 10.7.1. I opened the DMG file and copied the drop box app into my applications folder and opened it. That resulted in the message "Drop Box has no windows". I suspect this may be because some time ago I had tried an earlier version of drop box which was not Lion compatible and that earlier version has probably left some files around. If I run the drop box app in the drop box installer folder (without copying it into my applications folder) I get a dialogue asking if I had a drop box account followed by drop box set up. This created a drop box folder but when I copied a file into that folder and opened the context menu for that file I did not get the expected extra options related t drop box. Using VoiceOver how can I tell whether drop box is properly installed and working? If I first need to get rid of the old drop box and all its files how do I do that? Many thanks for any tips. Paul Hopewell From khwicca at gmail.com Fri Sep 9 18:41:47 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:41:47 -0400 Subject: data recovery Message-ID: I was on the Apple and working with a folder across the network on my PC. I accidentally deleted a portion of the folder before i could stop the process. Does anyone know if there is any way possible I can recover that data?I haven't done anything else to the hard drive since the deletion. Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Sep 9 19:31:12 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 14:31:12 -0400 Subject: any pdf reading apps out there In-Reply-To: References: <21A9101E-84DB-41D9-BE32-7B3BDF7B6C94@bluebottle.com> <6011A27E-D7D5-471D-A806-3B6E5ABE48A7@softcon.com> Message-ID: <7B6674C5-2B3C-47CD-B338-431CF2FDA49F@softcon.com> On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: > I'm not aware of any other PDF reader, other than Preview and Digital > Editions. Travis and others, I'm very curious to know what else is out > there and works with VoiceOver on OS X Lion to read PDF's? I don't know about Lion specifically, but there are a number of other pdf readers. softcon pdf viewer (http://mac.softcon.com/softconpdfviewer.dmg) This was written for tiger, because the tiger pdf viewer couldn't do a continuous page view, I.E. tell vo to read continuously, and have it do so w/o having to change pages at the end of each one, so the softcon pdf viewer was released to allow this capability. However, it hasn't been updated since, so no clue if it will work on lion or not. Skim (http://skim-app.sourceforge.net/) It not only works on later versions of osx (including leopard), but is fully vo accessible. It also comes with source (if you so desire) so that you can see how it works, and change it if you see fit). Adobe reader can be had at: http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/ I've not used it, but I hear it's not as accessible as preview, but supposedly handles pdfs preview doesn't, though I've never run across a pdf preview didn't handle that wasn't an image of real pages, so in my personal opinion, this one isn't necessary, but there it is for those who want to try it. Pdf clerk is in the app store, you can find a version for download at: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/27168/pdfclerk-pro You can hit the developer's site at: http://sintraworks.com/ I have no idea if this app is accessible or not, so someone else will need to try this one. Then there's pdfpen which has both a regular and a pro version. It can edit pdf files as well as read them. It's not very accessible, but your mileage may vary. You can find a version of pdfpen at: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/ 13829/pdfpen There's more, but some are pre tiger, and others are definitely not accessible, but if you really need them, a quick search on google should turn up a few more with minimal effort. hth. From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Sep 9 19:39:07 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 19:39:07 +0100 Subject: data recovery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Christine, I'm not an expert on Networking, it's something i need to get a handle on, but have you checked the Trash on both machines. I could be wrong, but I think Networks on OS X act like bootable volumes, therefore, any files that are "deleted" should be safe until the Trash is empty. If this fails, there is a hidden dot Trashes folder that may contain the files, but I'll send another message on how to access this as I want to be sure I tell you correctly. HTH TC :) James On 9 Sep 2011, at 18:41, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I was on the Apple and working with a folder across the network on my PC. I accidentally deleted a portion of the folder before i could stop the process. Does anyone know if there is any way possible I can recover that data?I haven't done anything else to the hard drive since the deletion. > > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Fri Sep 9 19:32:14 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:32:14 -0500 Subject: Drop Box question References: Message-ID: Hi Paul, I experienced random weirdness until I restarted my MBP. If you've not already tried that, its probably worth while. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Hopewell To: mac-access Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:24 AM Subject: Drop Box question Hello, I am trying to instal the latest version of drop box on Lion 10.7.1. I opened the DMG file and copied the drop box app into my applications folder and opened it. That resulted in the message "Drop Box has no windows". I suspect this may be because some time ago I had tried an earlier version of drop box which was not Lion compatible and that earlier version has probably left some files around. If I run the drop box app in the drop box installer folder (without copying it into my applications folder) I get a dialogue asking if I had a drop box account followed by drop box set up. This created a drop box folder but when I copied a file into that folder and opened the context menu for that file I did not get the expected extra options related t drop box. Using VoiceOver how can I tell whether drop box is properly installed and working? If I first need to get rid of the old drop box and all its files how do I do that? Many thanks for any tips. Paul Hopewell <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Sep 9 20:01:46 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 15:01:46 -0400 Subject: Apple TV isn't accessible for blind people In-Reply-To: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> References: <4E620EE6.50207@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Well. I didn't see anything in the message that would indicate he was telling lies. Everything he said was as straightforward as he could make it. I agree that some of the points probably weren't completely accurate (I.E. you must use an apple provided hdmi cable) but he did state that he was working with both apple and his own tv manufacturer to get things working. It's likely apple had him use the usb port to do one of those functions most users don't need to perform. It wasn't spelled out in the message of course, but he didn't actually state any falsehoods, merely his experiences, and although some of those statements could be taken out of context, and interpreted to be bad press, or lies against the apple tv, I see nothing directly quoted that actually states any barefaced lies. If anyone else sees any, please point them out. This guy didn't have a compatible tv, and also didn't give the entire backstory, which leads to some incorrect interpretations of his statements, but I didn't see anywhere where he categorically denyed that the apple tv didn't work, period end of story, only that he said his experience with the apple tv didn't work for him at all. Certainly, some of his statements weren't the best thought out, and some aren't entirely accurate (such as the hdmi cable and the mini usb cable) but I didn't see anything directly stating apple tv overall was useless, only that blind users needed to be aware that they may be in a similar situation, and as such, they are probably better off using something else. Sure, his timelines are off (tv newer than the last year and so on) but again, nothing outright stating it doesn't work as a whole. He even went out of his way to state that the apple folks were extremely helpful. Everyone here knows, that sometimes, identical hardware/software behaves differently for different people/situations, and therefore, it's likely his particular combination of tv/cables/apple tv/ everything else, simply didn't work, that happens, and when it does, folks are bound to be upset about it. He made no disparaging remarks about any of the hardware, merely stated his experience, I see nothing wrong with that. A little misleading in parts, sure, but again, I see nothing to backup the huge claims I've been reading on the list here. Folks, he had a bad experience, folks who have bad experiences are going to vent, and sometimes the venting isn't the most well thought-out rebuttle of items. That's no reason to flame the guy for writing a bunch of lies, when he clearly did nothing of the sort. Will this review cause others not to buy an apple tv? Maybe, but there's loads of sighted folks who have had similar experiences, and I don't see them quoted here claiming they're telling lies about apple. Leave it alone and let it rest. There's nothing in this post to raise the ire I've been seeing as a result. From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Sep 9 20:13:32 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 15:13:32 -0400 Subject: Confused about pictures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <733E0B27-8D13-41AF-8E20-7EFBF78CB8AC@softcon.com> jpg and jpeg (for those vo users who love vo's acronym expansion, read those two letter-by-letter to see the difference) are the same file format, just different extensions. You can rename a JPG file to JPEG or vice versa, and there will be no difference. On the other hand, png is a completely different format than jpg files, as Lynne pointed out in a different message. :) So, the short answer is: yes, jpg and jpeg are the same, and you can rename them to match. png is another story, but conversion of formats is possible with utilities, finder scripts, preview, and other programs as well. From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Sep 9 20:28:37 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 15:28:37 -0400 Subject: copying audio cd's In-Reply-To: <68E0C8F886324021B1624E53EE5D7E37@joseph1> References: <68E0C8F886324021B1624E53EE5D7E37@joseph1> Message-ID: Multiple methods of doing this. First, you can use itunes to import the cd, which will (hopefully) label the songs, author, and such all for you. Secondly, you can just copy the aiff files onto a folder on your hd, then use a utility like switch to change them to another format. You can use quicktime (if you have the pro version) to do the conversion as well, and I'm sure other utilities exist to do the same thing as well. Lots of options. hth. From moriond at mac.com Fri Sep 9 21:16:34 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 10:16:34 -1000 Subject: any pdf reading apps out there In-Reply-To: <7B6674C5-2B3C-47CD-B338-431CF2FDA49F@softcon.com> References: <21A9101E-84DB-41D9-BE32-7B3BDF7B6C94@bluebottle.com> <6011A27E-D7D5-471D-A806-3B6E5ABE48A7@softcon.com> <7B6674C5-2B3C-47CD-B338-431CF2FDA49F@softcon.com> Message-ID: Hi Kevin, To add to the summary Travis gave, you might want to check out Skim. Skim is an open source program that has been described as "Preview on steroids". Here's the description on Macupdate: Skim is a PDF reader and note-taker for OS X. It is designed to help you read and annotate scientific papers in PDF, but is also great for viewing any PDF file. Features: Viewing PDFs Adding and editing notes Highlighting important text, including one-swipe highlight modes Making "snapshots" for easy reference Navigation using table of contents or thumbnails, with visual history View all your notes and highlights Convenient reading in full screen Giving powerful presentations, with built-in transitions Handy preview of internal links Focus using a reading bar Magnification tool Smart cropping tools Extensive AppleScript support Bookmarks Saving passwords in Keychain Export notes as text Automatic download of remote PDFs Support for Apple Remote Control Interaction with LaTeX, SyncTeX, and PDFSync Integration with BibDesk and other third party applications Spotlight support Highly customizable And much more... In practice, useful features of this app that have been discussed on this list at earlier times include: (1) using it to present PDF format version of PowerPoint or Keynote presentations -- you can set the View options to "Presentation" either from the Menu bar or via shortcut (Command-Option-p), and you can set up the transition options, again from the Menu bar Presentation Options or via shortcut (Command-Option-t) and (2) using it to make annotations, that can be separately printed out. The most complete description of its operation was in a discussion on this list before archiving was set up. However, I excerpted that post in a reply to D?nal about Skim on the Macvisionaries list, so its possible to find that old post's contents in the Mail Archive. It's feature rich, so that you may not need all the functionality (for example, manipulating images includes some options that are only usable with vision), and it is similar to Preview in layout, but adds a second side-bar for the annotation features. Item 1) is useful for some conferences where they request that the presentation be exported into PDF format, which gets out of the problems caused by possible font incompatibility in the various versions of PowerPoint, or in Keynote. Also, in earlier versions of Skim, I would find some functions (such as using "Find" to search) more stable for VoiceOver than in Preview. There is also Adobe Reader and Adobe Acrobat Professional which can be used with PDFs -- but these are really clunky to use with VoiceOver, so you'd only do this if you had a protected PDF file that could not be read in any other way. Then, as you mention, there is Adobe Digital Editions Preview that will read ePubs and PDFs with ADE DRM protection on your Desktop, but currently only in English. And there is OverDrive on iOS devices. These both require you to authorize your device or computer with Adobe. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 9, 2011, at 08:31, Travis Siegel wrote: > > On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> I'm not aware of any other PDF reader, other than Preview and Digital >> Editions. Travis and others, I'm very curious to know what else is out >> there and works with VoiceOver on OS X Lion to read PDF's? > I don't know about Lion specifically, but there are a number of other pdf readers. > softcon pdf viewer (http://mac.softcon.com/softconpdfviewer.dmg) > This was written for tiger, because the tiger pdf viewer couldn't do a continuous page view, I.E. tell vo to read continuously, and have it do so w/o having to change pages at the end of each one, so the softcon pdf viewer was released to allow this capability. However, it hasn't been updated since, so no clue if it will work on lion or not. > > > Skim (http://skim-app.sourceforge.net/) > It not only works on later versions of osx (including leopard), but is fully vo accessible. It also comes with source (if you so desire) so that you can see how it works, and change it if you see fit). > Adobe reader can be had at: http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/ > > I've not used it, but I hear it's not as accessible as preview, but supposedly handles pdfs preview doesn't, though I've never run across a pdf preview didn't handle that wasn't an image of real pages, so in my personal opinion, this one isn't necessary, but there it is for those who want to try it. > > Pdf clerk is in the app store, you can find a version for download at: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/27168/pdfclerk-pro > You can hit the developer's site at: http://sintraworks.com/ > I have no idea if this app is accessible or not, so someone else will need to try this one. > Then there's pdfpen which has both a regular and a pro version. It can edit pdf files as well as read them. It's not very accessible, but your mileage may vary. > You can find a version of pdfpen at: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/13829/pdfpen > > There's more, but some are pre tiger, and others are definitely not accessible, but if you really need them, a quick search on google should turn up a few more with minimal effort. > hth. From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Sep 9 21:22:00 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:22:00 +0100 Subject: Drop Box question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00E4CBD9-4372-466A-96EF-2A7E3E601DFD@hopewell.org.uk> HI Geoff, Many thanks for your reply. What do you mean by "restarting your MBP"? What is the "MBP"? Many thanks. Paul On 9 Sep 2011, at 19:32, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I experienced random weirdness until I restarted my MBP. If you've not already tried that, its probably worth while. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Hopewell > To: mac-access > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:24 AM > Subject: Drop Box question > > > Hello, > I am trying to instal the latest version of drop box on Lion 10.7.1. I opened the DMG file and copied the drop box app into my applications folder and opened it. That resulted in the message "Drop Box has no windows". I suspect this may be because some time ago I had tried an earlier version of drop box which was not Lion compatible and that earlier version has probably left some files around. > > If I run the drop box app in the drop box installer folder (without copying it into my applications folder) I get a dialogue asking if I had a drop box account followed by drop box set up. This created a drop box folder but when I copied a file into that folder and opened the context menu for that file I did not get the expected extra options related t drop box. > > Using VoiceOver how can I tell whether drop box is properly installed and working? If I first need to get rid of the old drop box and all its files how do I do that? > > Many thanks for any tips. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Sep 9 21:35:20 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:35:20 +0100 Subject: Can anyone help with Iplayer Downloader? In-Reply-To: <9525904C-B08A-4762-893F-E7BD66AFC6A5@gmail.com> References: <9525904C-B08A-4762-893F-E7BD66AFC6A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5D91F070-EB7A-41CC-958C-F05EB3A2B063@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Eleanor, I suggest you try "Get iPlayer Automator" instead. Look for it on Google to find it. It is a free download and it does work on Lion 10.7.1 for downloading both radio and TV programs from the BBC iPlayer. See my post earlier today about iPlayer Automator on how to use it. It is pretty accessible via VoiceOver. Paul Hopewell On 8 Sep 2011, at 17:35, Eleanor Southwood wrote: > Hi all, > I'm trying to use Iplayer Downloader version 4 to access content from the BBC Iplayer. However, I just can't work out how to select the programmes for it to download. Does anyone have detailed, step-by-step instructions? > > Thanks, > Ellie > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From khwicca at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 02:07:27 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:07:27 -0400 Subject: a Spotlight Question Message-ID: <420882E6-8483-4CB5-A125-AFB4878070AB@gmail.com> Can you search the contents of another computer's hard drive on the network using Spotlight? I seems like I remember that you can, but can't seem to figur out how. Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 02:46:27 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:46:27 -0400 Subject: audiohijack pro major update for lion users Message-ID: <939FB91F-0C1F-49B1-A0A8-57976FB64D64@gmail.com> Hi, I just wanted to let everyone know that's there's a major update to audiohijack pro. What's so major about it is now the instant on feature now works with lion, so the app you want to hijack doesn't have to relaunch before hijacking. Hope this helps someone, Courtney Sent from my iPod From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 03:38:16 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:38:16 -0500 Subject: audiohijack pro major update for lion users References: <939FB91F-0C1F-49B1-A0A8-57976FB64D64@gmail.com> Message-ID: really? good! thank you lored. how do you get it? automatic updates? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Courtney Curran" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:46 PM Subject: audiohijack pro major update for lion users > Hi, > I just wanted to let everyone know that's there's a major update to > audiohijack pro. What's so major about it is now the instant on feature > now works with lion, so the app you want to hijack doesn't have to > relaunch before hijacking. > Hope this helps someone, > Courtney > > Sent from my iPod > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 03:44:29 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 22:44:29 -0400 Subject: audiohijack pro major update for lion users In-Reply-To: References: <939FB91F-0C1F-49B1-A0A8-57976FB64D64@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, You just go to check or update under the audiohijack pro menu. Sent from my iPod On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:38 PM, "joe quinn" wrote: > really? good! thank you lored. how do you get it? automatic updates? > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Courtney Curran" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:46 PM > Subject: audiohijack pro major update for lion users > > >> Hi, >> I just wanted to let everyone know that's there's a major update to audiohijack pro. What's so major about it is now the instant on feature now works with lion, so the app you want to hijack doesn't have to relaunch before hijacking. >> Hope this helps someone, >> Courtney >> >> Sent from my iPod >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Sep 10 03:46:07 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 22:46:07 -0400 Subject: program that can backup specific folders In-Reply-To: <20110907063620.CAD3.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <20110907045354.233E.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> <02033123-B67B-4572-96B4-9C3DA209D484@mac-access.net> <20110907063620.CAD3.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <0EE164ED-15C0-40F7-B261-AC565EFE5458@softcon.com> You can easily do this using a crontab entry, and a simple shell script. Write your script to zip, tar, gzip, or some combination thereof that compresses the folders in question, then copies the file to a location of your choice. Then, after that, create a crontab entry that will simply execute the script as often as you like. Cron is part of unix, so it exists on every mac running osx, whether it's a server version or not, so anyone can use it. I'm actually (slightly) surprised it isn't mentioned more when folks ask these kinds of questions. Even on the osx forums and other discussion groups that turn up when you google for answers, cron is rarely mentioned as a scheduling option. Odd, but there it is. :) Anyhow, You already have a solution, but this one is just another option for those who are on a budget, or don't want to use funds to backup a single file/folder/drive/some combination thereto. :) From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Sep 10 10:44:30 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 10:44:30 +0100 Subject: To all radio apps for iPod Touch Message-ID: <4E6B317E.90200@techno-chat.net> Hello all. What radio apps do you recommend for the iPod Touch 4G? Apple Vis has to name but two Tunein Radio Pro and Ootunes, the latter sounding more feature rich and VoiceOver compatible. But I'd love to hear your thoughts of them two plus any other radio apps you use. I'm thinking to have a sort of Tapin Radio for my iPod smiles. Thanks. Chat soon. From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sat Sep 10 11:03:46 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:03:46 +0100 Subject: Carbon Copy cloner and time machine on same drive? Message-ID: <0613139E-35C4-4943-A118-255697EC4990@btinternet.com> Does anybody know if it would be possible to use Carbon copy cloner and time Machine on the same external drive? I bought a 2TB external USB drive for use with time Machine. Now it seems that a bootable clone option in conjunction with time Machine would provide a better overall solution but do I need to get a new drive for Carbon cloner or partition my existing external drive? . David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com From tracysc1974 at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 13:18:07 2011 From: tracysc1974 at gmail.com (tracy) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 08:18:07 -0400 Subject: New member Message-ID: <645E7229D1B74001B064DBFB539D309F@YOURJQN0364N7T> Good morning! Thanks for the list welcome! I'm glad to be a part of this helpful list! I just, a couple of weeks ago, got the Iphone 4. I'm slowly learning to use it, haven't gotten the gestures mastered yet, but working on it. If any of you have helpful suggestions, don't hesitate to send them my way! I'm also looking for any cool and fun apps that I should download that work with voice over. Using the apps has helped me learn many of the things I've figured out already. Are there game apps that you recommend? Also sources for free books for Ibooks? Thanks so much. Tracy Bundy From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sat Sep 10 13:21:50 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:21:50 +0100 Subject: New member In-Reply-To: <645E7229D1B74001B064DBFB539D309F@YOURJQN0364N7T> References: <645E7229D1B74001B064DBFB539D309F@YOURJQN0364N7T> Message-ID: hi the ibooks are reasonably prised cathie glass is a brilliant author who i have just descovered on there. she's a foster carer who rights books about children she fosterd. there are quite a few games go to the app store and type audio games in quite a few should come up. From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 14:44:07 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:44:07 -0400 Subject: To all radio apps for iPod Touch In-Reply-To: <4E6B317E.90200@techno-chat.net> References: <4E6B317E.90200@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <0CD1EB85-E399-44DA-B98F-8E87BCE21BCE@gmail.com> I have ootunes and use it almost exclusively. It has so many radio stations, and a favorites list for the ones you listen to the most. On Sep 10, 2011, at 5:44 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: Hello all. What radio apps do you recommend for the iPod Touch 4G? Apple Vis has to name but two Tunein Radio Pro and Ootunes, the latter sounding more feature rich and VoiceOver compatible. But I'd love to hear your thoughts of them two plus any other radio apps you use. I'm thinking to have a sort of Tapin Radio for my iPod smiles. Thanks. Chat soon. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From tracysc1974 at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 15:01:53 2011 From: tracysc1974 at gmail.com (tracy) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 10:01:53 -0400 Subject: New member In-Reply-To: References: <645E7229D1B74001B064DBFB539D309F@YOURJQN0364N7T> Message-ID: <78F0B88938E44A84BE4D9A94E288DDC2@YOURJQN0364N7T> Thanks so much! Tracy -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Ian McNamara Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 8:22 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: New member hi the ibooks are reasonably prised cathie glass is a brilliant author who i have just descovered on there. she's a foster carer who rights books about children she fosterd. there are quite a few games go to the app store and type audio games in quite a few should come up. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From mfurness at bell.net Sat Sep 10 16:32:09 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:32:09 -0400 Subject: signatures messed up Lion Message-ID: I wanted to ad a new signature, but no matter what I do, it will not stick. when sending a message, the pop up menu is set to none. When I went to mail preferences, the pop up menu was dimmed I can not find out how to change my default signature. All help is appreciated. Mark. From chris at mysticplace.info Sat Sep 10 17:00:17 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:00:17 -0400 Subject: To all radio apps for iPod Touch In-Reply-To: <4E6B317E.90200@techno-chat.net> References: <4E6B317E.90200@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <20110910120016.CA3D.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Hi, I know this is personal preference, I have both of the below aps, and I prefer tunein radio. I just like the user interface better. On the iPhone you can get a list of local stations depending on your current position. This is great when traveling. On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 10:44:30 +0100 chris hallsworth wrote: > Hello all. > What radio apps do you recommend for the iPod Touch 4G? Apple Vis has to > name but two Tunein Radio Pro and Ootunes, the latter sounding more > feature rich and VoiceOver compatible. But I'd love to hear your > thoughts of them two plus any other radio apps you use. I'm thinking to > have a sort of Tapin Radio for my iPod smiles. > Thanks. > Chat soon. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From jekis at fastmail.us Sat Sep 10 18:23:11 2011 From: jekis at fastmail.us (Justin Ekis) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 10:23:11 -0700 Subject: To all radio apps for iPod Touch In-Reply-To: <4E6B317E.90200@techno-chat.net> References: <4E6B317E.90200@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <6F6A214D-4939-456D-B9F8-EC1AD940144E@fastmail.us> I like both of those apps, but find myself using Tunein a little more often. One thing I can say about ooTunes though is that the developer is very responsive to user feedback. I've never dealt with that person directly, but I see him answering questions from people on twitter quite often. There's also wunderradio, which I've heard good things about from other users. Hope this is helpful. Justin On Sep 10, 2011, at 2:44 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: Hello all. What radio apps do you recommend for the iPod Touch 4G? Apple Vis has to name but two Tunein Radio Pro and Ootunes, the latter sounding more feature rich and VoiceOver compatible. But I'd love to hear your thoughts of them two plus any other radio apps you use. I'm thinking to have a sort of Tapin Radio for my iPod smiles. Thanks. Chat soon. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Sep 10 18:34:53 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:34:53 +0100 Subject: New member In-Reply-To: <645E7229D1B74001B064DBFB539D309F@YOURJQN0364N7T> References: <645E7229D1B74001B064DBFB539D309F@YOURJQN0364N7T> Message-ID: <4E6B9FBD.60103@techno-chat.net> Hi Tracey, and welcome to the list! I have an iPod Touch 4G. I suggest you learning to swipe and double tap for the time being rather than locating what you want on the screen and doing a single tap. I also suggest looking into a bluetooth keyboard, as writing on a touch screen can be laborious at times. If you don't have the money, there is one app based on Dragon Naturally Speaking called Dragon Dictation. This is a free app hence me mentioning this. I love my iPod Touch 4G and what it can do. I also have a Freedom Iconnex Bluetooth keyboard as I prefer to write using a traditional qwerty keyboard rather than swiping to a character and double tapping to insert. Hope this all helps. Chat soon. On 10/09/2011 13:18, tracy wrote: > Good morning! Thanks for the list welcome! I'm glad to be a part of this > helpful list! I just, a couple of weeks ago, got the Iphone 4. I'm slowly > learning to use it, haven't gotten the gestures mastered yet, but working on > it. > If any of you have helpful suggestions, don't hesitate to send them my way! > I'm also looking for any cool and fun apps that I should download that work > with voice over. Using the apps has helped me learn many of the things I've > figured out already. > Are there game apps that you recommend? > Also sources for free books for Ibooks? > Thanks so much. > Tracy Bundy > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From tracysc1974 at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 18:40:38 2011 From: tracysc1974 at gmail.com (tracy) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:40:38 -0400 Subject: New member In-Reply-To: <4E6B9FBD.60103@techno-chat.net> References: <645E7229D1B74001B064DBFB539D309F@YOURJQN0364N7T> <4E6B9FBD.60103@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <24BC10BFF28741798CB35DE875219E48@NETBOOK> Sure does! I'm already looking in to the keyboards, are there ones that I should avoid? I've actually found that I can find the buttons on most screens, but have trouble when there are many small ones on a particular screen. Thanks Tracy -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:35 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: New member Hi Tracey, and welcome to the list! I have an iPod Touch 4G. I suggest you learning to swipe and double tap for the time being rather than locating what you want on the screen and doing a single tap. I also suggest looking into a bluetooth keyboard, as writing on a touch screen can be laborious at times. If you don't have the money, there is one app based on Dragon Naturally Speaking called Dragon Dictation. This is a free app hence me mentioning this. I love my iPod Touch 4G and what it can do. I also have a Freedom Iconnex Bluetooth keyboard as I prefer to write using a traditional qwerty keyboard rather than swiping to a character and double tapping to insert. Hope this all helps. Chat soon. On 10/09/2011 13:18, tracy wrote: > Good morning! Thanks for the list welcome! I'm glad to be a part of > this helpful list! I just, a couple of weeks ago, got the Iphone 4. > I'm slowly learning to use it, haven't gotten the gestures mastered > yet, but working on it. > If any of you have helpful suggestions, don't hesitate to send them my way! > I'm also looking for any cool and fun apps that I should download that > work with voice over. Using the apps has helped me learn many of the > things I've figured out already. > Are there game apps that you recommend? > Also sources for free books for Ibooks? > Thanks so much. > Tracy Bundy > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Sep 10 19:21:36 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:21:36 +0100 Subject: New member In-Reply-To: <24BC10BFF28741798CB35DE875219E48@NETBOOK> References: <645E7229D1B74001B064DBFB539D309F@YOURJQN0364N7T> <4E6B9FBD.60103@techno-chat.net> <24BC10BFF28741798CB35DE875219E48@NETBOOK> Message-ID: <6A65EAD6-0DA2-420E-B7FC-A9B3D404EE77@googlemail.com> Hi Tracy. I am Lewis Crack, 21 years old, and am totally blind and hard of hearing. I have an iPod Touch, iPhone and Macbook and I love the lot. I also find it easier to navigate by tactile buttons, but I am extremely good at navigating a touchscreen. I bought a Freedom Iconnex Keyboard for ?22, but it was the cheap model and I couldn't get it to work. I would avoid it if you can. Get the one that costs around ?47.99. I am hoping to get one in the future. Hope to chat soon and it is good to know you. Lewis. :) On 10 Sep 2011, at 18:40, tracy wrote: > Sure does! I'm already looking in to the keyboards, are there ones that I > should avoid? I've actually found that I can find the buttons on most > screens, but have trouble when there are many small ones on a particular > screen. Thanks > Tracy > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:35 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: New member > > Hi Tracey, and welcome to the list! > I have an iPod Touch 4G. I suggest you learning to swipe and double tap for > the time being rather than locating what you want on the screen and doing a > single tap. I also suggest looking into a bluetooth keyboard, as writing on > a touch screen can be laborious at times. If you don't have the money, there > is one app based on Dragon Naturally Speaking called Dragon Dictation. This > is a free app hence me mentioning this. I love my iPod Touch 4G and what it > can do. I also have a Freedom Iconnex Bluetooth keyboard as I prefer to > write using a traditional qwerty keyboard rather than swiping to a character > and double tapping to insert. > Hope this all helps. > Chat soon. > > On 10/09/2011 13:18, tracy wrote: >> Good morning! Thanks for the list welcome! I'm glad to be a part of >> this helpful list! I just, a couple of weeks ago, got the Iphone 4. >> I'm slowly learning to use it, haven't gotten the gestures mastered >> yet, but working on it. >> If any of you have helpful suggestions, don't hesitate to send them my > way! >> I'm also looking for any cool and fun apps that I should download that >> work with voice over. Using the apps has helped me learn many of the >> things I've figured out already. >> Are there game apps that you recommend? >> Also sources for free books for Ibooks? >> Thanks so much. >> Tracy Bundy >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Sat Sep 10 19:26:46 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:26:46 -0500 Subject: audiohijack pro major update for lion users In-Reply-To: <939FB91F-0C1F-49B1-A0A8-57976FB64D64@gmail.com> References: <939FB91F-0C1F-49B1-A0A8-57976FB64D64@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Courtney: Thanks, it does help especially when you want to schedule a jacking such as Safari and the web page isn't your home page. smile Take care, John On Sep 9, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I just wanted to let everyone know that's there's a major update to audiohijack pro. What's so major about it is now the instant on feature now works with lion, so the app you want to hijack doesn't have to relaunch before hijacking. > Hope this helps someone, > Courtney > > Sent from my iPod > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From joncohn at cox.net Sat Sep 10 20:02:11 2011 From: joncohn at cox.net (Jon Cohn) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:02:11 -0400 Subject: program that can backup specific folders In-Reply-To: <0EE164ED-15C0-40F7-B261-AC565EFE5458@softcon.com> References: <20110907045354.233E.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> <02033123-B67B-4572-96B4-9C3DA209D484@mac-access.net> <20110907063620.CAD3.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> <0EE164ED-15C0-40F7-B261-AC565EFE5458@softcon.com> Message-ID: There is a major problem with cron... It will only schedule things to occur if the system is up. So if you schedule a monthly backup and the system is down for the backup, then the backup would never occur using the standard methods of cron. ONe could of course shell script around this but that seems counterproductive. Five years ago I would have suggested using a "at" job which is a function that is run by the cron daemons, but will run on or after the date scheduled. Today, if you write-up a correct XML file for Launchd you can have the regularity of cron and the start after sleep/reboot functionality of the at job. I expect that most of the applications out there that run on a schedule use the launchd process to control the starting of the process. JOnathan the On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:46 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > You can easily do this using a crontab entry, and a simple shell script. > Write your script to zip, tar, gzip, or some combination thereof that compresses the folders in question, then copies the file to a location of your choice. Then, after that, create a crontab entry that will simply execute the script as often as you like. > Cron is part of unix, so it exists on every mac running osx, whether it's a server version or not, so anyone can use it. > I'm actually (slightly) surprised it isn't mentioned more when folks ask these kinds of questions. Even on the osx forums and other discussion groups that turn up when you google for answers, cron is rarely mentioned as a scheduling option. > Odd, but there it is. :) > Anyhow, You already have a solution, but this one is just another option for those who are on a budget, or don't want to use funds to backup a single file/folder/drive/some combination thereto. :) > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From joncohn at cox.net Sat Sep 10 20:05:20 2011 From: joncohn at cox.net (Jon Cohn) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:05:20 -0400 Subject: Resetting Mail Defaults and MobileMe setup issue In-Reply-To: <018601cc6eba$2a611680$7f234380$@gmail.com> References: <018601cc6eba$2a611680$7f234380$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <68A68A98-EFC8-4E64-8D47-F6D2B2ADFCB9@cox.net> I am not sure how much can still be done with mobile me, since it is being replaced by the iCloud service. Also, since I am not yet using Lion, I am not sure if the how the preferences have changed in the new mail program. However, if all of your e-mail coming into the computer is using IMAP< then you do not really need to worry about losing messages if you delete the account on your macintosh and then add it back in. Jonathan On Sep 9, 2011, at 2:31 AM, Marcia Yale wrote: > Is there a way to reset the defaults in Mail? I had a bit of trouble > figuring out the server tables when I was setting up my email account and I > managed to mess up the MobileMe outgoing server. It seems that, no matter > what I do, I can't seem to correct the problem. I would prefer not to have > to delete my whole account as I don't want to lose the items that have > arrived in my inbox there, but I found the export function so I may just do > that if it would help resolve the MobileMe mess! Any suggestions? > > Also, I haven't been able to set MobileMe up, either--do I need an Apple Id > first? > > > Marcia Yale > "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day I can > hear her breathing."--Arundhati Roy > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Sep 10 20:13:18 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane trethowan) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 05:13:18 +1000 Subject: audiohijack pro major update for lion users In-Reply-To: References: <939FB91F-0C1F-49B1-A0A8-57976FB64D64@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E6BB6CE.9040302@internode.on.net> And thanks for bringing this update to our attention. I've been a user of Audio Hijack Pro for the last 5 years and think this product actually underlines the strength of a Mac computer in many ways, without getting into the old "Windows Mac" argument, just how many products are there which run under Windows which successfully and - in most cases without any configuration necessary whatever - are able to hijack and record a source whether that source be a sound card or a running application? Well in my experience the anser to that question is next to 0 which is unfortunate so there we are. Yep, Audio Hijack Pro does have a few parts which are not accessible including the "Effects" panel and I've long since given up on any hope that anything will change here but there are "workarounds" for this in the form of a guood audio editor such as Amadeus Pro etc. On 11/09/2011 4:26 AM, John Gunn wrote: > Hello Courtney: > > Thanks, it does help especially when you want to schedule a jacking such as Safari and the web page isn't your home page. smile > > Take care, > > John > > > On Sep 9, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I just wanted to let everyone know that's there's a major update to audiohijack pro. What's so major about it is now the instant on feature now works with lion, so the app you want to hijack doesn't have to relaunch before hijacking. >> Hope this helps someone, >> Courtney >> >> Sent from my iPod >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dragoncatmc at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 20:28:21 2011 From: dragoncatmc at gmail.com (Marcia Yale) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:28:21 -0400 Subject: Resetting Mail Defaults and MobileMe setup issue In-Reply-To: <68A68A98-EFC8-4E64-8D47-F6D2B2ADFCB9@cox.net> References: <018601cc6eba$2a611680$7f234380$@gmail.com> <68A68A98-EFC8-4E64-8D47-F6D2B2ADFCB9@cox.net> Message-ID: <010501cc6fef$cdf9f880$69ede980$@gmail.com> It's a pop3 account, unfortunately, or at least that's how I set it up! -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Jon Cohn Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:05 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Resetting Mail Defaults and MobileMe setup issue I am not sure how much can still be done with mobile me, since it is being replaced by the iCloud service. Also, since I am not yet using Lion, I am not sure if the how the preferences have changed in the new mail program. However, if all of your e-mail coming into the computer is using IMAP< then you do not really need to worry about losing messages if you delete the account on your macintosh and then add it back in. Jonathan On Sep 9, 2011, at 2:31 AM, Marcia Yale wrote: > Is there a way to reset the defaults in Mail? I had a bit of trouble > figuring out the server tables when I was setting up my email account > and I managed to mess up the MobileMe outgoing server. It seems that, > no matter what I do, I can't seem to correct the problem. I would > prefer not to have to delete my whole account as I don't want to lose > the items that have arrived in my inbox there, but I found the export > function so I may just do that if it would help resolve the MobileMe mess! Any suggestions? > > Also, I haven't been able to set MobileMe up, either--do I need an > Apple Id first? > > > Marcia Yale > "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day > I can hear her breathing."--Arundhati Roy > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Sep 10 20:51:14 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:51:14 +0100 Subject: New member In-Reply-To: <6A65EAD6-0DA2-420E-B7FC-A9B3D404EE77@googlemail.com> References: <645E7229D1B74001B064DBFB539D309F@YOURJQN0364N7T> <4E6B9FBD.60103@techno-chat.net> <24BC10BFF28741798CB35DE875219E48@NETBOOK> <6A65EAD6-0DA2-420E-B7FC-A9B3D404EE77@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4E6BBFB2.3010404@techno-chat.net> Hi Lewis. If I were you I would give the benefit of the doubt and this time pay the ?50 or so for the same keyboard. Just a thought. Chat soon. On 10/09/2011 19:21, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Tracy. > > I am Lewis Crack, 21 years old, and am totally blind and hard of hearing. > > I have an iPod Touch, iPhone and Macbook and I love the lot. > I also find it easier to navigate by tactile buttons, but I am extremely good at navigating a touchscreen. > > I bought a Freedom Iconnex Keyboard for ?22, but it was the cheap model and I couldn't get it to work. I would avoid it if you can. Get the one that costs around ?47.99. > I am hoping to get one in the future. > Hope to chat soon and it is good to know you. > Lewis. :) > On 10 Sep 2011, at 18:40, tracy wrote: > >> Sure does! I'm already looking in to the keyboards, are there ones that I >> should avoid? I've actually found that I can find the buttons on most >> screens, but have trouble when there are many small ones on a particular >> screen. Thanks >> Tracy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:35 PM >> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: New member >> >> Hi Tracey, and welcome to the list! >> I have an iPod Touch 4G. I suggest you learning to swipe and double tap for >> the time being rather than locating what you want on the screen and doing a >> single tap. I also suggest looking into a bluetooth keyboard, as writing on >> a touch screen can be laborious at times. If you don't have the money, there >> is one app based on Dragon Naturally Speaking called Dragon Dictation. This >> is a free app hence me mentioning this. I love my iPod Touch 4G and what it >> can do. I also have a Freedom Iconnex Bluetooth keyboard as I prefer to >> write using a traditional qwerty keyboard rather than swiping to a character >> and double tapping to insert. >> Hope this all helps. >> Chat soon. >> >> On 10/09/2011 13:18, tracy wrote: >>> Good morning! Thanks for the list welcome! I'm glad to be a part of >>> this helpful list! I just, a couple of weeks ago, got the Iphone 4. >>> I'm slowly learning to use it, haven't gotten the gestures mastered >>> yet, but working on it. >>> If any of you have helpful suggestions, don't hesitate to send them my >> way! >>> I'm also looking for any cool and fun apps that I should download that >>> work with voice over. Using the apps has helped me learn many of the >>> things I've figured out already. >>> Are there game apps that you recommend? >>> Also sources for free books for Ibooks? >>> Thanks so much. >>> Tracy Bundy >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sat Sep 10 21:40:59 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:40:59 +0100 Subject: Mac pro updates.. Message-ID: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> Hi all, I've scanned around the usual sources (Macrumors etc) but haven't come across much. anyone heard anything about any MacPro updates? I've about 4000 euro sitting in a research acount to buy one but the funding period is running out. I suspect I might have to go with one of the current machines :( D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From david.mclean at cox.net Sat Sep 10 22:13:47 2011 From: david.mclean at cox.net (David McLean) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:13:47 -0400 Subject: Mac pro updates.. In-Reply-To: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> References: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Latest I've heard is late this year. Apple is waiting for the latest high end chip from Intel which is expected fourth quarter this year. On Sep 10, 2011, at 4:40 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi all, > > I've scanned around the usual sources (Macrumors etc) but haven't come across much. anyone heard anything about any MacPro updates? I've about 4000 euro sitting in a research acount to buy one but the funding period is running out. I suspect I might have to go with one of the current machines :( > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sat Sep 10 22:15:32 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:15:32 +0100 Subject: Mac pro updates.. In-Reply-To: References: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: The one rumoured to be due in November? On 10 Sep 2011, at 22:13, David McLean wrote: > Latest I've heard is late this year. Apple is waiting for the latest high end chip from Intel which is expected fourth quarter this year. > On Sep 10, 2011, at 4:40 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've scanned around the usual sources (Macrumors etc) but haven't come across much. anyone heard anything about any MacPro updates? I've about 4000 euro sitting in a research acount to buy one but the funding period is running out. I suspect I might have to go with one of the current machines :( >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From david.mclean at cox.net Sat Sep 10 22:22:21 2011 From: david.mclean at cox.net (David McLean) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:22:21 -0400 Subject: Mac pro updates.. In-Reply-To: References: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: I didn't hear November specifically, just late this year. Mac rumors has mentioned it a couple of times. November would be good though, I'm eagerly awaiting it. On Sep 10, 2011, at 5:15 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > The one rumoured to be due in November? > On 10 Sep 2011, at 22:13, David McLean wrote: > >> Latest I've heard is late this year. Apple is waiting for the latest high end chip from Intel which is expected fourth quarter this year. >> On Sep 10, 2011, at 4:40 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I've scanned around the usual sources (Macrumors etc) but haven't come across much. anyone heard anything about any MacPro updates? I've about 4000 euro sitting in a research acount to buy one but the funding period is running out. I suspect I might have to go with one of the current machines :( >>> >>> D?nal >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sat Sep 10 22:25:09 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 22:25:09 +0100 Subject: Mac pro updates.. In-Reply-To: References: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <71F0CD5D-FF76-4E53-A8B4-9B6355DA1433@computing.dcu.ie> yep join the club.. On 10 Sep 2011, at 22:22, David McLean wrote: > I didn't hear November specifically, just late this year. Mac rumors has mentioned it a couple of times. November would be good though, I'm eagerly awaiting it. > On Sep 10, 2011, at 5:15 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> The one rumoured to be due in November? >> On 10 Sep 2011, at 22:13, David McLean wrote: >> >>> Latest I've heard is late this year. Apple is waiting for the latest high end chip from Intel which is expected fourth quarter this year. >>> On Sep 10, 2011, at 4:40 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I've scanned around the usual sources (Macrumors etc) but haven't come across much. anyone heard anything about any MacPro updates? I've about 4000 euro sitting in a research acount to buy one but the funding period is running out. I suspect I might have to go with one of the current machines :( >>>> >>>> D?nal >>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sat Sep 10 23:22:20 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:22:20 +0100 Subject: I-Tunes Importing music onto small drive Message-ID: <7D838B79-3BB2-4C83-8BA2-A5CA1A5BCB19@btinternet.com> On my I Mac I have a 256 gb solid drive and a 2TB second dive. I want to leave the solid state drive as far as possible to be a drive for operating systems and installed programs . I have a problem with I Tunes relentlessly trying to fill up my solid state drive with copies of files that I have placed on my secondary drive. Does anybody know how I can stop I tunes doing this. I think I will be using VLC which seems far easier to use than I Tunes but I lowed I Tunes to import a CD tonight whereupon it started to fill up my primary drive even though I did not ask it to do this. I eventually had to do a force quit on I Tunes to stop it doing this as the only response I could get from I Tunes was busy whilst Finder reported the I Tunes media folder growing relentlessly. Regards David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 23:21:59 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:21:59 -0500 Subject: any pdf reading apps out there In-Reply-To: <7B6674C5-2B3C-47CD-B338-431CF2FDA49F@softcon.com> References: <21A9101E-84DB-41D9-BE32-7B3BDF7B6C94@bluebottle.com> <6011A27E-D7D5-471D-A806-3B6E5ABE48A7@softcon.com> <7B6674C5-2B3C-47CD-B338-431CF2FDA49F@softcon.com> Message-ID: Thanks. I'm looking for OS X Lion and VoiceOver compatible/accessible PDF Readers, most of in your list do not fit these two criterias. Please, if you or anyone is able to recommend prooven, tested, and great OS Lion VoiceOver accessible PDF Readers, I am very interested. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > > On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> I'm not aware of any other PDF reader, other than Preview and Digital >> Editions. Travis and others, I'm very curious to know what else is out >> there and works with VoiceOver on OS X Lion to read PDF's? > I don't know about Lion specifically, but there are a number of other pdf readers. > softcon pdf viewer (http://mac.softcon.com/softconpdfviewer.dmg) > This was written for tiger, because the tiger pdf viewer couldn't do a continuous page view, I.E. tell vo to read continuously, and have it do so w/o having to change pages at the end of each one, so the softcon pdf viewer was released to allow this capability. However, it hasn't been updated since, so no clue if it will work on lion or not. > > > Skim (http://skim-app.sourceforge.net/) > It not only works on later versions of osx (including leopard), but is fully vo accessible. It also comes with source (if you so desire) so that you can see how it works, and change it if you see fit). > Adobe reader can be had at: http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/ > > I've not used it, but I hear it's not as accessible as preview, but supposedly handles pdfs preview doesn't, though I've never run across a pdf preview didn't handle that wasn't an image of real pages, so in my personal opinion, this one isn't necessary, but there it is for those who want to try it. > > Pdf clerk is in the app store, you can find a version for download at: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/27168/pdfclerk-pro > You can hit the developer's site at: http://sintraworks.com/ > I have no idea if this app is accessible or not, so someone else will need to try this one. > Then there's pdfpen which has both a regular and a pro version. It can edit pdf files as well as read them. It's not very accessible, but your mileage may vary. > You can find a version of pdfpen at: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/13829/pdfpen > > There's more, but some are pre tiger, and others are definitely not accessible, but if you really need them, a quick search on google should turn up a few more with minimal effort. > hth. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From kevinchao89 at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 23:27:29 2011 From: kevinchao89 at gmail.com (Kevin Chao) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:27:29 -0500 Subject: any pdf reading apps out there In-Reply-To: References: <21A9101E-84DB-41D9-BE32-7B3BDF7B6C94@bluebottle.com> <6011A27E-D7D5-471D-A806-3B6E5ABE48A7@softcon.com> <7B6674C5-2B3C-47CD-B338-431CF2FDA49F@softcon.com> Message-ID: <47156AAF-B35F-4AE5-BC1E-8D27626EBB59@gmail.com> WIll Skim allow for PDF's that are tagged up well be able to render in a way, where headings, list, paragraphs, tables, etc can be navigated to and read properly with VoiceOver? What about text selection using keyboard/VoiceOver? I've tried Adobe Reader, but entire content area is not at all Voiceover accessible, only thing I was able to access was the menus. I've not tried Acrobat Professional, but doubt it's very VoiceOver accessible, and I'm not authoring PDF's quite yet. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > To add to the summary Travis gave, you might want to check out Skim. Skim is an open source program that has been described as "Preview on steroids". Here's the description on Macupdate: > > Skim is a PDF reader and note-taker for OS X. It is designed to help you read and annotate scientific papers in PDF, but is also great for viewing any PDF file. > > Features: > > Viewing PDFs > Adding and editing notes > Highlighting important text, including one-swipe highlight modes > Making "snapshots" for easy reference > Navigation using table of contents or thumbnails, with visual history > View all your notes and highlights > Convenient reading in full screen > Giving powerful presentations, with built-in transitions > Handy preview of internal links > Focus using a reading bar > Magnification tool > Smart cropping tools > Extensive AppleScript support > Bookmarks > Saving passwords in Keychain > Export notes as text > Automatic download of remote PDFs > Support for Apple Remote Control > Interaction with LaTeX, SyncTeX, and PDFSync > Integration with BibDesk and other third party applications > Spotlight support > Highly customizable > And much more... > > > In practice, useful features of this app that have been discussed on this list at earlier times include: (1) using it to present PDF format version of PowerPoint or Keynote presentations -- you can set the View options to "Presentation" either from the Menu bar or via shortcut (Command-Option-p), and you can set up the transition options, again from the Menu bar Presentation Options or via shortcut (Command-Option-t) and (2) using it to make annotations, that can be separately printed out. The most complete description of its operation was in a discussion on this list before archiving was set up. However, I excerpted that post in a reply to D?nal about Skim on the Macvisionaries list, so its possible to find that old post's contents in the Mail Archive. It's feature rich, so that you may not need all the functionality (for example, manipulating images includes some options that are only usable with vision), and it is similar to Preview in layout, but adds a second side-bar for the annotation features. Item 1) is useful for some conferences where they request that the presentation be exported into PDF format, which gets out of the problems caused by possible font incompatibility in the various versions of PowerPoint, or in Keynote. Also, in earlier versions of Skim, I would find some functions (such as using "Find" to search) more stable for VoiceOver than in Preview. > > There is also Adobe Reader and Adobe Acrobat Professional which can be used with PDFs -- but these are really clunky to use with VoiceOver, so you'd only do this if you had a protected PDF file that could not be read in any other way. > > Then, as you mention, there is Adobe Digital Editions Preview that will read ePubs and PDFs with ADE DRM protection on your Desktop, but currently only in English. And there is OverDrive on iOS devices. These both require you to authorize your device or computer with Adobe. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Sep 9, 2011, at 08:31, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> >> On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: >> >>> I'm not aware of any other PDF reader, other than Preview and Digital >>> Editions. Travis and others, I'm very curious to know what else is out >>> there and works with VoiceOver on OS X Lion to read PDF's? >> I don't know about Lion specifically, but there are a number of other pdf readers. >> softcon pdf viewer (http://mac.softcon.com/softconpdfviewer.dmg) >> This was written for tiger, because the tiger pdf viewer couldn't do a continuous page view, I.E. tell vo to read continuously, and have it do so w/o having to change pages at the end of each one, so the softcon pdf viewer was released to allow this capability. However, it hasn't been updated since, so no clue if it will work on lion or not. >> >> >> Skim (http://skim-app.sourceforge.net/) >> It not only works on later versions of osx (including leopard), but is fully vo accessible. It also comes with source (if you so desire) so that you can see how it works, and change it if you see fit). >> Adobe reader can be had at: http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/ >> >> I've not used it, but I hear it's not as accessible as preview, but supposedly handles pdfs preview doesn't, though I've never run across a pdf preview didn't handle that wasn't an image of real pages, so in my personal opinion, this one isn't necessary, but there it is for those who want to try it. >> >> Pdf clerk is in the app store, you can find a version for download at: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/27168/pdfclerk-pro >> You can hit the developer's site at: http://sintraworks.com/ >> I have no idea if this app is accessible or not, so someone else will need to try this one. >> Then there's pdfpen which has both a regular and a pro version. It can edit pdf files as well as read them. It's not very accessible, but your mileage may vary. >> You can find a version of pdfpen at: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/13829/pdfpen >> >> There's more, but some are pre tiger, and others are definitely not accessible, but if you really need them, a quick search on google should turn up a few more with minimal effort. >> hth. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mfurness at bell.net Sat Sep 10 23:45:10 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:45:10 -0400 Subject: how do you un dimm Message-ID: My signature button is dimmed. This is in mail preferences. I hit command comma for preferences Then vo right arrow, to go through the choices settings. When I get to the choose signature pop up button, it is dimmed Unfortunately, it is set at none.. How can I un dim this pop up button? Mark From stuartyoung at samobile.net Sat Sep 10 23:53:03 2011 From: stuartyoung at samobile.net (Stuart Young) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:53:03 -0400 Subject: Book share readers. Message-ID: f60404e1-31b0-4bdb-864d-adbcee72e2c6@samobile.net Hi all does anyone know of an book share app that i can use with voice over? as I have just signed up for the service. any help that you can provide would be grate. Regards. Stuart. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sat Sep 10 23:54:56 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:54:56 +0100 Subject: Book share readers. In-Reply-To: f60404e1-31b0-4bdb-864d-adbcee72e2c6@samobile.net References: f60404e1-31b0-4bdb-864d-adbcee72e2c6@samobile.net Message-ID: <97D28FBF-AFD0-47AF-90AA-DE14AA3378F8@computing.dcu.ie> Hi Stuart, On what device(s) do you wish to have an app? D?nal On 10 Sep 2011, at 23:53, Stuart Young wrote: > Hi all > does anyone know of an book share app that i can use with voice over? as I have just signed up for the service. > any help that you can provide would be grate. > Regards. > Stuart. > > -- > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Sat Sep 10 23:55:49 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:55:49 +0100 Subject: New member In-Reply-To: <4E6BBFB2.3010404@techno-chat.net> References: <645E7229D1B74001B064DBFB539D309F@YOURJQN0364N7T> <4E6B9FBD.60103@techno-chat.net> <24BC10BFF28741798CB35DE875219E48@NETBOOK><6A65EAD6-0DA2-420E-B7FC-A9B3D404EE77@googlemail.com> <4E6BBFB2.3010404@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <0B7931312E824AD2B689980255B19556@LewisAdamCrack> Hey Chris. I'm going to get that one as it sounds really good. Cheers. Lewis. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 10 September 2011 20:51 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: New member Hi Lewis. If I were you I would give the benefit of the doubt and this time pay the ?50 or so for the same keyboard. Just a thought. Chat soon. On 10/09/2011 19:21, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hi Tracy. > > I am Lewis Crack, 21 years old, and am totally blind and hard of hearing. > > I have an iPod Touch, iPhone and Macbook and I love the lot. > I also find it easier to navigate by tactile buttons, but I am extremely good at navigating a touchscreen. > > I bought a Freedom Iconnex Keyboard for ?22, but it was the cheap model and I couldn't get it to work. I would avoid it if you can. Get the one that costs around ?47.99. > I am hoping to get one in the future. > Hope to chat soon and it is good to know you. > Lewis. :) > On 10 Sep 2011, at 18:40, tracy wrote: > >> Sure does! I'm already looking in to the keyboards, are there ones that I >> should avoid? I've actually found that I can find the buttons on most >> screens, but have trouble when there are many small ones on a particular >> screen. Thanks >> Tracy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:35 PM >> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: New member >> >> Hi Tracey, and welcome to the list! >> I have an iPod Touch 4G. I suggest you learning to swipe and double tap for >> the time being rather than locating what you want on the screen and doing a >> single tap. I also suggest looking into a bluetooth keyboard, as writing on >> a touch screen can be laborious at times. If you don't have the money, there >> is one app based on Dragon Naturally Speaking called Dragon Dictation. This >> is a free app hence me mentioning this. I love my iPod Touch 4G and what it >> can do. I also have a Freedom Iconnex Bluetooth keyboard as I prefer to >> write using a traditional qwerty keyboard rather than swiping to a character >> and double tapping to insert. >> Hope this all helps. >> Chat soon. >> >> On 10/09/2011 13:18, tracy wrote: >>> Good morning! Thanks for the list welcome! I'm glad to be a part of >>> this helpful list! I just, a couple of weeks ago, got the Iphone 4. >>> I'm slowly learning to use it, haven't gotten the gestures mastered >>> yet, but working on it. >>> If any of you have helpful suggestions, don't hesitate to send them my >> way! >>> I'm also looking for any cool and fun apps that I should download that >>> work with voice over. Using the apps has helped me learn many of the >>> things I've figured out already. >>> Are there game apps that you recommend? >>> Also sources for free books for Ibooks? >>> Thanks so much. >>> Tracy Bundy >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From stuartyoung at samobile.net Sun Sep 11 00:01:33 2011 From: stuartyoung at samobile.net (Stuart Young) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:01:33 -0400 Subject: Book share readers. Message-ID: 464ec1f4-6a2f-4223-af61-d68b7b5c09a8@samobile.net sorry I forgot to put that in I have A mac book Pro 17. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Sep 11 00:03:11 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:03:11 +0100 Subject: Book share readers. In-Reply-To: 464ec1f4-6a2f-4223-af61-d68b7b5c09a8@samobile.net References: 464ec1f4-6a2f-4223-af61-d68b7b5c09a8@samobile.net Message-ID: You don't need much beyond this. Bookshare books can be read using SAfari or any DAISY book reader. I just use Safari. On 11 Sep 2011, at 00:01, Stuart Young wrote: > sorry I forgot to put that in I have A mac book Pro 17. > > -- > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From solsticesinger at gmail.com Sun Sep 11 00:15:49 2011 From: solsticesinger at gmail.com (Shannon Dyer) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:15:49 -0400 Subject: Book share readers. In-Reply-To: References: 464ec1f4-6a2f-4223-af61-d68b7b5c09a8@samobile.net Message-ID: How do you make bookshare books open in Safari? Whenever I open the .xml file, nothing happens. Safari loads, but I don't actually see the content of the book. Very strange behavior, this. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net On Sep 10, 2011, at 7:03 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > You don't need much beyond this. Bookshare books can be read using SAfari or any DAISY book reader. I just use Safari. > On 11 Sep 2011, at 00:01, Stuart Young wrote: > >> sorry I forgot to put that in I have A mac book Pro 17. >> >> -- >> Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Sep 11 00:24:46 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:24:46 +0100 Subject: New member In-Reply-To: <0B7931312E824AD2B689980255B19556@LewisAdamCrack> References: <645E7229D1B74001B064DBFB539D309F@YOURJQN0364N7T> <4E6B9FBD.60103@techno-chat.net> <24BC10BFF28741798CB35DE875219E48@NETBOOK><6A65EAD6-0DA2-420E-B7FC-A9B3D404EE77@googlemail.com> <4E6BBFB2.3010404@techno-chat.net> <0B7931312E824AD2B689980255B19556@LewisAdamCrack> Message-ID: <4E6BF1BE.2070309@techno-chat.net> Hi Lewis. Good because I did just that and it's still working. On 10/09/2011 23:55, Lewis Crack wrote: > Hey Chris. > > I'm going to get that one as it sounds really good. > Cheers. > Lewis. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth > Sent: 10 September 2011 20:51 > To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: New member > > Hi Lewis. > If I were you I would give the benefit of the doubt and this time pay > the ?50 or so for the same keyboard. > Just a thought. > Chat soon. > > On 10/09/2011 19:21, Lewis Crack wrote: >> Hi Tracy. >> >> I am Lewis Crack, 21 years old, and am totally blind and hard of hearing. >> >> I have an iPod Touch, iPhone and Macbook and I love the lot. >> I also find it easier to navigate by tactile buttons, but I am extremely > good at navigating a touchscreen. >> >> I bought a Freedom Iconnex Keyboard for ?22, but it was the cheap model > and I couldn't get it to work. I would avoid it if you can. Get the one that > costs around ?47.99. >> I am hoping to get one in the future. >> Hope to chat soon and it is good to know you. >> Lewis. :) >> On 10 Sep 2011, at 18:40, tracy wrote: >> >>> Sure does! I'm already looking in to the keyboards, are there ones that I >>> should avoid? I've actually found that I can find the buttons on most >>> screens, but have trouble when there are many small ones on a particular >>> screen. Thanks >>> Tracy >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:35 PM >>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: New member >>> >>> Hi Tracey, and welcome to the list! >>> I have an iPod Touch 4G. I suggest you learning to swipe and double tap > for >>> the time being rather than locating what you want on the screen and doing > a >>> single tap. I also suggest looking into a bluetooth keyboard, as writing > on >>> a touch screen can be laborious at times. If you don't have the money, > there >>> is one app based on Dragon Naturally Speaking called Dragon Dictation. > This >>> is a free app hence me mentioning this. I love my iPod Touch 4G and what > it >>> can do. I also have a Freedom Iconnex Bluetooth keyboard as I prefer to >>> write using a traditional qwerty keyboard rather than swiping to a > character >>> and double tapping to insert. >>> Hope this all helps. >>> Chat soon. >>> >>> On 10/09/2011 13:18, tracy wrote: >>>> Good morning! Thanks for the list welcome! I'm glad to be a part of >>>> this helpful list! I just, a couple of weeks ago, got the Iphone 4. >>>> I'm slowly learning to use it, haven't gotten the gestures mastered >>>> yet, but working on it. >>>> If any of you have helpful suggestions, don't hesitate to send them my >>> way! >>>> I'm also looking for any cool and fun apps that I should download that >>>> work with voice over. Using the apps has helped me learn many of the >>>> things I've figured out already. >>>> Are there game apps that you recommend? >>>> Also sources for free books for Ibooks? >>>> Thanks so much. >>>> Tracy Bundy >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus >>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting >>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Sep 11 00:26:02 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:26:02 +0100 Subject: Book share readers. In-Reply-To: References: 464ec1f4-6a2f-4223-af61-d68b7b5c09a8@samobile.net Message-ID: I do the following: 1. find the xml file; 2. use VO-SHFT-m and select open with and then select safari. The book just opens and I use the normal VO-Safari combination. D?nal From stuartyoung at samobile.net Sun Sep 11 00:30:28 2011 From: stuartyoung at samobile.net (Stuart Young) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:30:28 -0400 Subject: GH dazie software Message-ID: 5c4e25e3-fe01-4bd2-8210-f8fb2c975ee9@samobile.net Hi all. does anyone know ware I can get hold of the GH daizie software from in the UK?. Regards Stuart. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. From tracysc1974 at gmail.com Sun Sep 11 00:32:35 2011 From: tracysc1974 at gmail.com (tracy) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:32:35 -0400 Subject: New member In-Reply-To: <6A65EAD6-0DA2-420E-B7FC-A9B3D404EE77@googlemail.com> References: <645E7229D1B74001B064DBFB539D309F@YOURJQN0364N7T><4E6B9FBD.60103@techno-chat.net><24BC10BFF28741798CB35DE875219E48@NETBOOK> <6A65EAD6-0DA2-420E-B7FC-A9B3D404EE77@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <0FF6D4FF13B145B8835E43BA05B64046@NETBOOK> Thanks so much for your information! Chat soon. Tracy -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lewis Crack Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 2:22 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: New member Hi Tracy. I am Lewis Crack, 21 years old, and am totally blind and hard of hearing. I have an iPod Touch, iPhone and Macbook and I love the lot. I also find it easier to navigate by tactile buttons, but I am extremely good at navigating a touchscreen. I bought a Freedom Iconnex Keyboard for ?22, but it was the cheap model and I couldn't get it to work. I would avoid it if you can. Get the one that costs around ?47.99. I am hoping to get one in the future. Hope to chat soon and it is good to know you. Lewis. :) On 10 Sep 2011, at 18:40, tracy wrote: > Sure does! I'm already looking in to the keyboards, are there ones > that I should avoid? I've actually found that I can find the buttons > on most screens, but have trouble when there are many small ones on a > particular screen. Thanks Tracy > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris > hallsworth > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:35 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: New member > > Hi Tracey, and welcome to the list! > I have an iPod Touch 4G. I suggest you learning to swipe and double > tap for the time being rather than locating what you want on the > screen and doing a single tap. I also suggest looking into a bluetooth > keyboard, as writing on a touch screen can be laborious at times. If > you don't have the money, there is one app based on Dragon Naturally > Speaking called Dragon Dictation. This is a free app hence me > mentioning this. I love my iPod Touch 4G and what it can do. I also > have a Freedom Iconnex Bluetooth keyboard as I prefer to write using a > traditional qwerty keyboard rather than swiping to a character and double tapping to insert. > Hope this all helps. > Chat soon. > > On 10/09/2011 13:18, tracy wrote: >> Good morning! Thanks for the list welcome! I'm glad to be a part of >> this helpful list! I just, a couple of weeks ago, got the Iphone 4. >> I'm slowly learning to use it, haven't gotten the gestures mastered >> yet, but working on it. >> If any of you have helpful suggestions, don't hesitate to send them >> my > way! >> I'm also looking for any cool and fun apps that I should download >> that work with voice over. Using the apps has helped me learn many of >> the things I've figured out already. >> Are there game apps that you recommend? >> Also sources for free books for Ibooks? >> Thanks so much. >> Tracy Bundy >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting > the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Sep 11 00:53:47 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:53:47 +0100 Subject: any pdf reading apps out there In-Reply-To: References: <21A9101E-84DB-41D9-BE32-7B3BDF7B6C94@bluebottle.com> <6011A27E-D7D5-471D-A806-3B6E5ABE48A7@softcon.com> <7B6674C5-2B3C-47CD-B338-431CF2FDA49F@softcon.com> Message-ID: Hi Kevin, Have you tried Skim? It's an open source PDF viewer. Wile I do use it, I have not yet had the opportunity to explore it fully, and so do not know what makes it superior to Preview. TC :) james On 10 Sep 2011, at 23:21, Kevin Chao wrote: > Thanks. I'm looking for OS X Lion and VoiceOver compatible/accessible PDF Readers, most of in your list do not fit these two criterias. Please, if you or anyone is able to recommend prooven, tested, and great OS Lion VoiceOver accessible PDF Readers, I am very interested. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 9, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> >> On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: >> >>> I'm not aware of any other PDF reader, other than Preview and Digital >>> Editions. Travis and others, I'm very curious to know what else is out >>> there and works with VoiceOver on OS X Lion to read PDF's? >> I don't know about Lion specifically, but there are a number of other pdf readers. >> softcon pdf viewer (http://mac.softcon.com/softconpdfviewer.dmg) >> This was written for tiger, because the tiger pdf viewer couldn't do a continuous page view, I.E. tell vo to read continuously, and have it do so w/o having to change pages at the end of each one, so the softcon pdf viewer was released to allow this capability. However, it hasn't been updated since, so no clue if it will work on lion or not. >> >> >> Skim (http://skim-app.sourceforge.net/) >> It not only works on later versions of osx (including leopard), but is fully vo accessible. It also comes with source (if you so desire) so that you can see how it works, and change it if you see fit). >> Adobe reader can be had at: http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/ >> >> I've not used it, but I hear it's not as accessible as preview, but supposedly handles pdfs preview doesn't, though I've never run across a pdf preview didn't handle that wasn't an image of real pages, so in my personal opinion, this one isn't necessary, but there it is for those who want to try it. >> >> Pdf clerk is in the app store, you can find a version for download at: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/27168/pdfclerk-pro >> You can hit the developer's site at: http://sintraworks.com/ >> I have no idea if this app is accessible or not, so someone else will need to try this one. >> Then there's pdfpen which has both a regular and a pro version. It can edit pdf files as well as read them. It's not very accessible, but your mileage may vary. >> You can find a version of pdfpen at: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/13829/pdfpen >> >> There's more, but some are pre tiger, and others are definitely not accessible, but if you really need them, a quick search on google should turn up a few more with minimal effort. >> hth. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Sep 11 01:24:25 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:24:25 -0400 Subject: I-Tunes Importing music onto small drive In-Reply-To: <7D838B79-3BB2-4C83-8BA2-A5CA1A5BCB19@btinternet.com> References: <7D838B79-3BB2-4C83-8BA2-A5CA1A5BCB19@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <46D078EF-D526-49C8-B551-8FC6D31F19AB@softcon.com> If you change the location of your media library to a location on the non ssd drive, itunes should then import all files into the new location. You can change this in the preferences. From solsticesinger at gmail.com Sun Sep 11 04:06:55 2011 From: solsticesinger at gmail.com (Shannon Dyer) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:06:55 -0400 Subject: Book share readers. In-Reply-To: References: 464ec1f4-6a2f-4223-af61-d68b7b5c09a8@samobile.net Message-ID: <5A806CC2-DA2D-41FF-8720-3E5CDD265AEA@gmail.com> Okay. I found the .xml file and just did command o to open it. Hopefully, the "Open with" thing will work better. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net On Sep 10, 2011, at 7:26 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > I do the following: > > 1. find the xml file; > 2. use VO-SHFT-m and select open with and then select safari. > > The book just opens and I use the normal VO-Safari combination. > > D?nal > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Sun Sep 11 12:50:21 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 07:50:21 -0400 Subject: how do you un dimm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have you created any signatures yet? When I go to preferences, if I choose all signatures in the sigs table, then that popup is dimmed. However, if I choose a specific signature, which I've created and named, then that popup is not dimmed. Marcy On Sep 10, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Mark Furness wrote: My signature button is dimmed. This is in mail preferences. I hit command comma for preferences Then vo right arrow, to go through the choices settings. When I get to the choose signature pop up button, it is dimmed Unfortunately, it is set at none.. How can I un dim this pop up button? Mark <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 11 15:23:37 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:23:37 +0100 Subject: program that can backup specific folders In-Reply-To: <0EE164ED-15C0-40F7-B261-AC565EFE5458@softcon.com> References: <20110907045354.233E.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> <02033123-B67B-4572-96B4-9C3DA209D484@mac-access.net> <20110907063620.CAD3.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> <0EE164ED-15C0-40F7-B261-AC565EFE5458@softcon.com> Message-ID: hello Travis I would just point out to you that although this is easy to you, many OSX users, (including myself), have no experience with UNIX or scripting. So they choose the other method instead. I agree totally that the OS has the capability of doing what Chris wanted. But your assertion that it is "easy" is taking quite a lot for granted. At the moment I have to much happening to concentrate on this kind of thing properly. But I really would like to learn a bit more about this sort of thing myself. But please remember that not everybody comes from the same kind of computing background as you do. Lynne On 10 Sep 2011, at 03:46, Travis Siegel wrote: You can easily do this using a crontab entry, and a simple shell script. Write your script to zip, tar, gzip, or some combination thereof that compresses the folders in question, then copies the file to a location of your choice. Then, after that, create a crontab entry that will simply execute the script as often as you like. Cron is part of unix, so it exists on every mac running osx, whether it's a server version or not, so anyone can use it. I'm actually (slightly) surprised it isn't mentioned more when folks ask these kinds of questions. Even on the osx forums and other discussion groups that turn up when you google for answers, cron is rarely mentioned as a scheduling option. Odd, but there it is. :) Anyhow, You already have a solution, but this one is just another option for those who are on a budget, or don't want to use funds to backup a single file/folder/drive/some combination thereto. :) From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 11 15:34:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:34:12 +0100 Subject: Typing Mode in iOS In-Reply-To: <4E6B9FBD.60103@techno-chat.net> References: <645E7229D1B74001B064DBFB539D309F@YOURJQN0364N7T> <4E6B9FBD.60103@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Hello Chris & Tracy I have changed the subject line of this message; please try to keep subject lines topical so that people can search the archives more easily. Just a quick note Chris about writing on the iOS devices. If you configure the typing mode, it is not necessary to "swipe and tap" in order to type using the iPad, iPhone or iPod. In fact, we have ours set so that you c can simply move your finger along the keyboard and when you hear the desired character spoken, just lift your finger and there you are. It's actually very much easier than the default way of doing things and on the smaller devices in particular we both find typing a breeze. Lynne On 10 Sep 2011, at 18:34, chris hallsworth wrote: Hi Tracey, and welcome to the list! I have an iPod Touch 4G. I suggest you learning to swipe and double tap for the time being rather than locating what you want on the screen and doing a single tap. I also suggest looking into a bluetooth keyboard, as writing on a touch screen can be laborious at times. If you don't have the money, there is one app based on Dragon Naturally Speaking called Dragon Dictation. This is a free app hence me mentioning this. I love my iPod Touch 4G and what it can do. I also have a Freedom Iconnex Bluetooth keyboard as I prefer to write using a traditional qwerty keyboard rather than swiping to a character and double tapping to insert. Hope this all helps. From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 11 15:40:56 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:40:56 +0100 Subject: Mac pro updates.. In-Reply-To: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> References: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <62265B4E-7EDF-41AA-8B7F-A016B82AFE08@mac-access.net> Hello Donal The latest one I've seen is a 12 core Intel Xeon dual processor machine. I'd love to buy Gordon one for when he comes home. That might give him a boost during his recovery; but currently we don't have the funds :-c Lynne On 10 Sep 2011, at 21:40, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, I've scanned around the usual sources (Macrumors etc) but haven't come across much. anyone heard anything about any MacPro updates? I've about 4000 euro sitting in a research acount to buy one but the funding period is running out. I suspect I might have to go with one of the current machines :( D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 11 15:49:29 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:49:29 +0100 Subject: GH dazie software In-Reply-To: 5c4e25e3-fe01-4bd2-8210-f8fb2c975ee9@samobile.net References: 5c4e25e3-fe01-4bd2-8210-f8fb2c975ee9@samobile.net Message-ID: <315B49C6-FA91-456D-A1B7-D56F84B36FFF@mac-access.net> Hello Stuart Please don't think this is in any way a criticism or a snipe. I know some people are sensitive about this but if I didn't mention it I wouldn't be helping you; so here goes. Your spelling of DAISY isn't quite right which may be why you weren't able to find it. Not to worry, here is a link to the player but I warn you, it's quite expensive. Lynne On 11 Sep 2011, at 00:30, Stuart Young wrote: Hi all. does anyone know ware I can get hold of the GH daizie software from in the UK?. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 11 16:06:03 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:06:03 +0100 Subject: Temporary List Control Message-ID: Hello everybody Although I'm around from time to time, I can't be as available as usual at the moment because Gordon is hospitalised. I won't bore the group with details; but if you want to know more feel free to contact me privately. Anyway, in the short term I have alerted our assistant list controllers Anne Robertson and James Austin who have kindly agreed to keep an eye on things for us. Anne and James will, I am sure, liaise closely and keep the group running smoothly. Whilst I know that we usually don't have any problems with group members, we'd be grateful if you could make the effort to keep things running smoothly on the list. Please remember that Anne and James are only trying to help the group, they're not attempting to interfere with your posts. Any problems related to the group, please contact either Anne Robertson, or James Austin . If your issue requires intervention, i.e., if you need your subscriber options changing and you can't initiate the change yourself, please use the support address as usual, and forgive the possibly delayed response. Thank you for your cooperation during what is a quite difficult time for us here at Mac Access Dot Net. Lynne From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Sep 11 18:09:54 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:09:54 +0100 Subject: Cleaning up itunes library Message-ID: Hello, In the past I have incorrectly deleted items from my itunes Media Folder forgetting to delete them from the iTunes library. Is there any way to clean up the itunes library so that it matches the contents of the itunes Media Folder,? One way would be to delete the itunes library and re-create it from scratch but as it is rather large that could take a long time! Many thanks for any tips. Paul Hopewell From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sun Sep 11 18:41:00 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:41:00 +0100 Subject: Bookmark folders in Safari Message-ID: Sorry for bringing this up again but this is really quite important for me and I cannot really abandon Internet Explorer until I manage to crack what is obviously a very difficult Safari nut. I am a bit amazed that it is so difficult and unintuitive to organise favourites into folders. A couple of listers tried to help me with this a couple of weeks ago and I have been trying to follow their tips. I am grateful for this help as I can at least create bookmark folders and collection even if I cannot get any use out of them. I can now create any number of bookmark collections and folders and collections but cannot reach any bookmarks in the dialogues in which I am creating bookmark folder and collections. Specifically I cannot 1. Put an actual bookmark into these folders and 2. Find an easy way to access these folder and their contents. This has completely defeated me after literally hours of effort. There certainly seems no way of showing bookmark folders on the bookmark menu as far as I can see. At the moment I am reduced to firing up VM Fusion, running IE and saving links to desktop, and them organising these into folders which I can then access using Finder on the Mac side to then launch Safari. This is a ridiculously cumbersome way of organising favourites. All the instructions I can find on the web assume sight and the use of drag ad drop. Are there any tutorials going through this with Voiceover? Alternatively could someone explain step by step how to add bookmarks to a bookmarks folder I have created and how then can I access this folder easily. Regards David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com From gat.access at gmail.com Sun Sep 11 19:03:40 2011 From: gat.access at gmail.com (Garry Turkington) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:03:40 +0100 Subject: Mac pro updates.. In-Reply-To: <62265B4E-7EDF-41AA-8B7F-A016B82AFE08@mac-access.net> References: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> <62265B4E-7EDF-41AA-8B7F-A016B82AFE08@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Problem is that I've seen rumors on the Sandy Bridge E release being Jan 2012 just a few weeks ago then supposedly Nov 15 2011 as mentioned last week on MacRumors. So if you have a time window you may find yourself waiting until the very end of it! Garry On 9/11/11, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Donal > > The latest one I've seen is a 12 core Intel Xeon dual processor machine. I'd > love to buy Gordon one for when he comes home. That might give him a boost > during his recovery; but currently we don't have the funds :-c > > Lynne > > On 10 Sep 2011, at 21:40, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've scanned around the usual sources (Macrumors etc) but haven't come > across much. anyone heard anything about any MacPro updates? I've about > 4000 euro sitting in a research acount to buy one but the funding period is > running out. I suspect I might have to go with one of the current machines > :( > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From billd at insightbb.com Sun Sep 11 19:43:44 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (Bill Deatherage) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:43:44 -0400 Subject: IPhone appfor either xM or Serious In-Reply-To: <20110909044310.CD08.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <3D3890A58B904773819FC32DD86A49EB@OwnerHP><3B105F82-9A5D-4925-9A75-9121CE0AB808@me.com> <20110909044310.CD08.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <46461F1426CD48DA9EB8C622B4FED8C0@OwnerHP> Hay, I now have the Music Doc andam enjoying it. Thanks for the information. Bill Deatherage From mfurness at bell.net Sun Sep 11 20:53:11 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:53:11 -0400 Subject: how do you un dimm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for your help Marcy. I have created several signatures. if I select one, while in the all list, the select signature box is still dimmed. If I select one of the 3 email accounts, it is not dimmed. For some strange reason my email address is automatically added to my main account, but not the other 2 accounts. I had to completely deleat the email address, in order for a signature to show up in that account. Mark On 2011-09-11, at 7:50 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Have you created any signatures yet? > > When I go to preferences, if I choose all signatures in the sigs table, then that popup is dimmed. However, if I choose a specific signature, which I've created and named, then that popup is not dimmed. > > Marcy > > On Sep 10, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Mark Furness wrote: > > My signature button is dimmed. > This is in mail preferences. > I hit command comma for preferences > Then vo right arrow, to go through the choices settings. > When I get to the choose signature pop up button, it is dimmed > Unfortunately, it is set at none.. > > How can I un dim this pop up button? > > Mark > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > -- > Marcy > marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > The goal of salvation is not to get to heaven. Salvation is being conformed to the image of Christ. Heaven is the benefit. From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sun Sep 11 20:57:32 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:57:32 -0300 Subject: iPhone Apps and iTunes question. Message-ID: <7FC844EE384C4AA584889479423D027C@MainComputer> Hi Folks: In the iPhone apps list, using iTunes, how does one determine which app is check or unchecked in order to remove or restore an app to the iPhone? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6455 (20110911) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Sep 11 18:11:21 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:11:21 +0100 Subject: Mac pro updates.. In-Reply-To: <62265B4E-7EDF-41AA-8B7F-A016B82AFE08@mac-access.net> References: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> <62265B4E-7EDF-41AA-8B7F-A016B82AFE08@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <76538F00-6E80-41CD-8E6A-D8E16CEB5B32@computing.dcu.ie> Ah yes Lynne, I have noted said machine?. And drooled! On 11 Sep 2011, at 15:40, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Donal > > The latest one I've seen is a 12 core Intel Xeon dual processor machine. I'd love to buy Gordon one for when he comes home. That might give him a boost during his recovery; but currently we don't have the funds :-c > > Lynne > > On 10 Sep 2011, at 21:40, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've scanned around the usual sources (Macrumors etc) but haven't come across much. anyone heard anything about any MacPro updates? I've about 4000 euro sitting in a research acount to buy one but the funding period is running out. I suspect I might have to go with one of the current machines :( > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Sun Sep 11 19:15:02 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:15:02 +0100 Subject: Mac pro updates.. In-Reply-To: References: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> <62265B4E-7EDF-41AA-8B7F-A016B82AFE08@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Yes indeed Garry that was the rumour I saw. Sadly the time frame ends November 30th! Mind you, I suppose the 8-core machine will keep me going for a bit.. I suppose this next question is targeted at the "visual" users on list? Are those 27" LED displays worth the money? On 11 Sep 2011, at 19:03, Garry Turkington wrote: > Problem is that I've seen rumors on the Sandy Bridge E release being > Jan 2012 just a few weeks ago then supposedly Nov 15 2011 as mentioned > last week on MacRumors. So if you have a time window you may find > yourself waiting until the very end of it! > > Garry > > On 9/11/11, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> Hello Donal >> >> The latest one I've seen is a 12 core Intel Xeon dual processor machine. I'd >> love to buy Gordon one for when he comes home. That might give him a boost >> during his recovery; but currently we don't have the funds :-c >> >> Lynne >> >> On 10 Sep 2011, at 21:40, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I've scanned around the usual sources (Macrumors etc) but haven't come >> across much. anyone heard anything about any MacPro updates? I've about >> 4000 euro sitting in a research acount to buy one but the funding period is >> running out. I suspect I might have to go with one of the current machines >> :( >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From moriond at mac.com Sun Sep 11 23:17:12 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:17:12 -1000 Subject: iTunes AppleScript "Super Remove Dead Tracks" [was Re: Cleaning up itunes library] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8E497510-503E-4D7E-B407-D7C64BB8AB0B@mac.com> Hi Paul, If I understand your request correctly, you've deleted items from your iTunes Media Folder using Finder instead of iTunes itself, and so you have dead links to entries that the iTunes database still records as being in your iTunes Library. If this is the case, you might try the AppleScript named "Super Remove Dead Tracks v3.2" from Doug Adams' Applescripts for iTunes site: http://dougscripts.com/212 Here's the description: Surveys iTunes for tracks whose files are no longer available (so-called "dead" tracks, as indicated by a "!" next to their names) and removes them. Outputs a text log listing the tracks that were removed by Name, Artist, and Album. OS X 10.6 or 10.7 only. Universal version for PowerPC machines available at the link below in the "Info" section. For each AppleScript on the dougscripts.com site there is both a "download" and "read me pdf" link. VoiceOver will also describe the first link with a title: "Click to download this script" and the second with "View or download a PDF version of this script's Read Me (which is included in the download)". Doug gives very complete information on how to install and use his AppleScripts, both on the web pages and in the accompanying PDF file for each AppleScript. On the page there is a "download & install" heading which gives the standard procedure for installing his AppleScripts: 1. Click the red download button. A .zip file will be downloaded to your "Downloads" folder. 2. The .zip file should open a disk image (.dmg) file which will mount and display in the Finder. Now, open a new Finder window and navigate to your [username]/Library/iTunes/Scripts/ folder. If there is no folder named "Scripts" there, create one. 3. Select and drag the files from the disk image window into the "Scripts" folder. Scripts placed in this folder will appear in the iTunes Scripts menu. 4. Close the disk image window and eject it from the Finder sidebar. For all versions of Mac OS X, you can copy and paste the files from the disk image window to the "Scripts" folder as an alternative to dragging it. The basic idea behind AppleScripts is that if you place them in a "Scripts" folder in your user account's Library folder, under the folder for a particular application (in this case, "iTunes"), then an additional menu named "Scripts" appears on the menu bar for that app, with menu options corresponding to that AppleScript. These work just like regular menu bar options. In the case of "Super Remove Dead Tracks", I'd select my library in the iTunes sources table -- say, "Music". Then I'd navigate to the iTunes menu bar with either Control+F2 or VO-M, and press "s c" to move to the "Scripts" menu and VO-Space to open it. (For those of you using TrackPad Commander, do this by using a two finger double tap at the top of your TrackPad, then flick left a couple of times to "Scripts", and double tap to open the menu. You can also use QuickNav to navigate to the Scripts menu and open it; again, left arrowing twice from the Apple Menu will save you a few key presses over using the right arrow, and open the Scripts menu by pressing the up and down arrow keys simultaneously.) Navigate to the option "Super Remove Dead Tracks" in the menu (with VO-Down arrow, arrowing down, or flicking down according to which Commander you are using) and select the option (press "Return" or VO-Space, or press the up and down arrow keys, or double tap, again according to which Commander you are using.) You'll get periodic menu prompts reporting the script's progress (e.g. 1000 songs scanned and 1 dead link found), and finally, you'll be told when this is down and have the option to view a log file of the dead links found and removed. The AppleScripts for iTunes are donationware. They're free to download, but if you find them useful you're encouraged to send in a donation. Also, since there has been some recent discussion about AppleScripts, I'll just mention that they can be saved either to a folder in your user account's Library folder or to the system's /Library folder. The difference is whether they appear in menus for your account or all user accounts, and also whether (if they are in Scripts folders for specific apps) whether they show up under the menu bar for that app or the general Scripts menu on the status menu bar. If you begin to use lots of AppleScripts, the general Scripts menu on the status menu bar can begin to get congested and more complicated to navigate, even when organized into folders. So I generally follow the directions given in Doug's AppleScripts site and put these into my own user account library under ~/Library/iTunes/Scripts. If this is the first time you've used AppleScripts in iTunes, you'll have to create a "Scripts" folder. Just use the Command-Shift-G "go to folder" shortcut from Finder and type or paste in "~/Library/iTunes" (without quotation marks) into the text field and press return. If you don't feel comfortable using the tilde symbol (which means the current user), first press Command-Shift-H to go to your home directory, then when you press Command-Shift-G type or paste in "Library/iTunes" and press return. (Note there is no slash before "Library" in this case, and I believe Finder will ignore case.) If there is no "Scripts" folder you can create one with the Command-Shift-N shortcut to create a new folder, or by choosing the "New Folder" option in the "File" menu on the Finder menu bar. HTH. In general, the "AppleScripts for iTunes" site is quite useful, and when I want to find something that I think will exist there I do a Google search on "dougscripts" along with the iTunes function I'm looking for. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 11, 2011, at 07:09, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > In the past I have incorrectly deleted items from my itunes Media Folder forgetting to delete them from the iTunes library. Is there any way to clean up the itunes library so that it matches the contents of the itunes Media Folder,? One way would be to delete the itunes library and re-create it from scratch but as it is rather large that could take a long time! > Many thanks for any tips. > > Paul Hopewell From dragoncatmc at gmail.com Sun Sep 11 23:31:57 2011 From: dragoncatmc at gmail.com (Marcia Yale) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:31:57 -0400 Subject: Apple Help and Exporting Mailboxes Message-ID: <006501cc70d2$9f4e1780$ddea4680$@gmail.com> I have tried to find information in Help regarding Exporting Mailboxes. I seem to have exported a mailbox--I chose the menu item and don't remember landing on a dialog--it seemed to just do something and go away. Now I want to find where the mailbox might have gone, and I can't seem to find a specific help category. I also can't seem to do a text search in the help system. Can someone please help? I think I could get to like the mail program if only I can get by these small irritants! Marcia Yale "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day I can hear her breathing."--Arundhati Roy From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Sep 12 01:47:25 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:47:25 -0400 Subject: Bookmark folders in Safari In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't (yet) use lion, but this should work for any version of safari. As you noticed, creating groups is easy enough. When you try to save a new bookmark, it pops up a dialog asking the name of the bookmark, and where you'd like to place it. By default, I think it selects the book marks bar as the place to put it. Simply vo-space on that pop-up, and you can select which category you'd like to place your bookmark in. This works when using the command-shift-d (as in delta) bookmark hot- key. Now, for moving bookmarks from other places, I've not looked into modifying the plist files directly, though I suspect this would be trivial to do, but the process I follow is this. First, I select the bookmark from the bookmarks bar, or where ever it is located. Wait for safari to load the page, then simply command- shift-d, then select the new place you'd like it saved. After that, you can simply delete it from it's original location. Yes, it's a bit more work, and drag/drop *should* do the trick, but I've had no luck using that method, so I use the add and delete procedure. It works, although it's certainly not very efficient. hth. From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Sep 12 11:32:28 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:32:28 +0100 Subject: Mac pro updates.. In-Reply-To: <76538F00-6E80-41CD-8E6A-D8E16CEB5B32@computing.dcu.ie> References: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> <62265B4E-7EDF-41AA-8B7F-A016B82AFE08@mac-access.net> <76538F00-6E80-41CD-8E6A-D8E16CEB5B32@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: Hello Donal I've read the rumours about the release of Intel's new Sandy Bridge processors and I have to admit it sounds yummy. I'd love to get Gordon a 16-core machine like that so I might hang on and see what happens towards the first quarter of next year. After everything that's happened recently I want to do something really really good just to put a smile on his face. So anyway thank you for bringing this subject to my attention; although I appreciate that you have your own needs to think about. :) The Mac Pro we have at work is a bit outdated now and it's only being used for very basic stuff like WP, record keeping and such. Lynne On 11 Sep 2011, at 18:11, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Ah yes Lynne, I have noted said machine?. And drooled! From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Sep 12 11:36:04 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:36:04 +0100 Subject: LED Displays Versus LCD Displays In-Reply-To: References: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> <62265B4E-7EDF-41AA-8B7F-A016B82AFE08@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Donal Those LED displays are excellent. I have one here although it isn't an Apple model. And yes, they do handle high definition video and intense graphics much better than the old LCD displays do. Lynne On 11 Sep 2011, at 19:15, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: ? I suppose this next question is targeted at the "visual" users on list? Are those 27" LED displays worth the money? From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Sep 12 11:41:14 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:41:14 +0100 Subject: LED Displays Versus LCD Displays In-Reply-To: References: <4D049672-6A06-428E-B046-D7CB61ED4C1A@computing.dcu.ie> <62265B4E-7EDF-41AA-8B7F-A016B82AFE08@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Cheers Lynne. On 12 Sep 2011, at 11:36, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Donal > > Those LED displays are excellent. I have one here although it isn't an Apple model. And yes, they do handle high definition video and intense graphics much better than the old LCD displays do. > > Lynne > > On 11 Sep 2011, at 19:15, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > ? I suppose this next question is targeted at the "visual" users on list? Are those 27" LED displays worth the money? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From a.beech at bigpond.net.au Mon Sep 12 11:54:26 2011 From: a.beech at bigpond.net.au (Adrian Beech) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:54:26 +1000 Subject: Thunderbolt 27 inch LED displays? Message-ID: <000001cc713a$5725f910$0571eb30$@bigpond.net.au> G'day all, On the back of an earlier LED/LCD display question I thought I'd put the following question to the masses... I'm pondering a new Thunderbolt 27 inch LED display for my sister and was wondering how significant the reflection would be given the monitor has a glass front. My primary concern is how useable the monitor would be as she needs to sit up close up to the display in order to see what is on the screen. All feedback is greatly appreciated. Cheers. AB From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 12 12:12:01 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:12:01 -0400 Subject: iPhone Apps and iTunes question. In-Reply-To: <7FC844EE384C4AA584889479423D027C@MainComputer> References: <7FC844EE384C4AA584889479423D027C@MainComputer> Message-ID: With your device connected and iTunes open: 1. Find your device name in the sources list. 2. Tab to apps and press the space bar to select it. 3. Tab to the apps area and check the sink apps checkbox, then tab to the apps table. 4. Arrow to the app you would like to select to sync or remove. 5. Interact with the table with vo-shift-down arrow, then interat again with the app name. 6. Use vo and left or right arrow to get to the app name, and you will hear the checkbox. It will say either checked or unchecked, and it is a toggle, so press vo with the space bar for your choice. 7. Stop interacting twice with vo-shift-up arrow. 8. Stop interacting with this scroll area, tab once to the capacity bar section interact and sync. Marcy On Sep 11, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hi Folks: In the iPhone apps list, using iTunes, how does one determine which app is check or unchecked in order to remove or restore an app to the iPhone? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6455 (20110911) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Mon Sep 12 12:15:29 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:15:29 -0300 Subject: iPhone Apps and iTunes question. References: <7FC844EE384C4AA584889479423D027C@MainComputer> Message-ID: <0C7C1188733240E9B35E609F4819553B@CNIBnotebook> Marcy: Thanks all over the place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcy Weinberg" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:12 AM Subject: Re: iPhone Apps and iTunes question. > With your device connected and iTunes open: > > 1. Find your device name in the sources list. > 2. Tab to apps and press the space bar to select it. > 3. Tab to the apps area and check the sink apps checkbox, then tab to the > apps table. > 4. Arrow to the app you would like to select to sync or remove. > 5. Interact with the table with vo-shift-down arrow, then interat again > with the app name. > 6. Use vo and left or right arrow to get to the app name, and you will > hear the checkbox. It will say either checked or unchecked, and it is a > toggle, so press vo with the space bar for your choice. > 7. Stop interacting twice with vo-shift-up arrow. > 8. Stop interacting with this scroll area, tab once to the capacity bar > section interact and sync. > > Marcy > > On Sep 11, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > > Hi Folks: > > In the iPhone apps list, using iTunes, how does one determine which app is > check or unchecked in order to remove or restore an app to the iPhone? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, > in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6455 (20110911) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > -- > Marcy > marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Sep 12 14:06:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:06:24 +0100 Subject: Thunderbolt 27 inch LED displays? In-Reply-To: <000001cc713a$5725f910$0571eb30$@bigpond.net.au> References: <000001cc713a$5725f910$0571eb30$@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <106DD8E4-4605-4143-9EC3-966643A7F0F8@mac-access.net> Hello Adrian As far as I'm aware, they all have anti-glare technologies built into them. I think it would be a good idea to try before you by if that is possible. I personally have no issues but I don't have a sight problem so it's not at all the same thing. If you need to be really close to the monitor to be able to see it, I can only suggest you turn down the intensity control as low as it will go. Lynne On 12 Sep 2011, at 11:54, Adrian Beech wrote: G'day all, On the back of an earlier LED/LCD display question I thought I'd put the following question to the masses... I'm pondering a new Thunderbolt 27 inch LED display for my sister and was wondering how significant the reflection would be given the monitor has a glass front. My primary concern is how useable the monitor would be as she needs to sit up close up to the display in order to see what is on the screen. All feedback is greatly appreciated. Cheers. AB <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Sep 12 14:21:50 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:21:50 +0100 Subject: Writing Audio CD from Image Files Message-ID: Hello everybody We have most of our album collection in FLAC format with a cue sheet. Is there any Mac application which will take the cue sheet and the associated FLAC file and re-compose the audio CD from it? I thought perhaps Max or XLD might do it but I can't see a way. Off to see Gordon now so I'll be delayed a little in responding. Lynne From moriond at mac.com Mon Sep 12 14:42:19 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:42:19 -1000 Subject: XLD and CD writing FLAC+cue images [was Re: Writing Audio CD from Image Files] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <630888AB-3D7D-4398-9435-322247724723@mac.com> Hi Lynne, The web page for XLD at describes the status of CD burning features under version history, and it appears you should be able to use this program to write your FLAC format images: 2011/5/15 ? Implemented CD burning feature Clicking "Burn CD" button in the toolbar of the track list window triggers a CD burner. Apple's standard CD burner GUI will appear and proceed. Note that the verification process requires an offset correction, so both read/write offset value (in CD Burn pref) should be set correctly for the exact match. Otherwise the verification will fail. If you are not sure about the write offset of your drive, burn AccurateRip verifiable image with the write offset 0, and rip the burned disc with the correct read offset. Then, the AR report will suggest offset values, and the relative one will be the write offset. Here is a current status list of the XLD burner: ? XLD does ? write flac/ape/wv/etc+cue image to CD directly ? take care of write offset ? reproduce pregap length ? write ISRC/MCN ? write pre-emphasis/DCP flag ? XLD does not (at this moment) ? handle HTOA perfectly Due to the limitation of Apple's framework, some drives fail to burn images including HTOA (MATSHITA will work, NEC/Pioneer will not). And HTOA longer than 1 second is truncated. ? create Mixed Mode CD ? create Enhanced CD (CD-Extra) ? write CD-Text ? Fixed a bug that metadata from MusicBrainz was not obtained properly ? Open recent menu works HTH. Best wishes to Gordon. Cheers, Esther On Sep 12, 2011, at 03:21, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > We have most of our album collection in FLAC format with a cue sheet. Is there any Mac application which will take the cue sheet and the associated FLAC file and re-compose the audio CD from it? > > I thought perhaps Max or XLD might do it but I can't see a way. > > Off to see Gordon now so I'll be delayed a little in responding. > > Lynne From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Sep 12 19:50:22 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:50:22 +0100 Subject: iTunes AppleScript "Super Remove Dead Tracks" [was Re: Cleaning up itunes library] In-Reply-To: <8E497510-503E-4D7E-B407-D7C64BB8AB0B@mac.com> References: <8E497510-503E-4D7E-B407-D7C64BB8AB0B@mac.com> Message-ID: Hello Esther, Many thanks for the attached. YOu are amazing - you always have an answer for everything! the Super remove dead tracks script is indeed just what I need. It found 1090 dead tracks in my iTunes library and so was well worth running. Most of these dead tracks relate to audio books each of which contains 30 to 120 tracks. the most difficult thing with the script was getting it to download, as I could not find the "red download button" using VO and Safari 5.1. I eventually found the button via the item chooser. From then on it was straightforward. Many thanks again for the pointer to the script. I will check out Doug's other scripts as he has a pretty nice collection. All the best.... Paul Hopewell On 11 Sep 2011, at 23:17, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul, > > If I understand your request correctly, you've deleted items from your iTunes Media Folder using Finder instead of iTunes itself, and so you have dead links to entries that the iTunes database still records as being in your iTunes Library. If this is the case, you might try the AppleScript named "Super Remove Dead Tracks v3.2" from Doug Adams' Applescripts for iTunes site: > http://dougscripts.com/212 > > Here's the description: > Surveys iTunes for tracks whose files are no longer available (so-called "dead" tracks, as indicated by a "!" next to their names) and removes them. Outputs a text log listing the tracks that were removed by Name, Artist, and Album. > > OS X 10.6 or 10.7 only. Universal version for PowerPC machines available at the link below in the "Info" section. > > For each AppleScript on the dougscripts.com site there is both a "download" and "read me pdf" link. VoiceOver will also describe the first link with a title: "Click to download this script" and the second with "View or download a PDF version of this script's Read Me (which is included in the download)". > > Doug gives very complete information on how to install and use his AppleScripts, both on the web pages and in the accompanying PDF file for each AppleScript. On the page there is a "download & install" heading which gives the standard procedure for installing his AppleScripts: > > 1. Click the red download button. A .zip file will be downloaded to your "Downloads" folder. > > 2. The .zip file should open a disk image (.dmg) file which will mount and display in the Finder. > Now, open a new Finder window and navigate to your [username]/Library/iTunes/Scripts/ folder. > > If there is no folder named "Scripts" there, create one. > > 3. Select and drag the files from the disk image window into the "Scripts" folder. Scripts placed in this folder will appear in the iTunes Scripts menu. > > 4. Close the disk image window and eject it from the Finder sidebar. > > > For all versions of Mac OS X, you can copy and paste the files from the disk image window to the "Scripts" folder as an alternative to dragging it. > > The basic idea behind AppleScripts is that if you place them in a "Scripts" folder in your user account's Library folder, under the folder for a particular application (in this case, "iTunes"), then an additional menu named "Scripts" appears on the menu bar for that app, with menu options corresponding to that AppleScript. These work just like regular menu bar options. In the case of "Super Remove Dead Tracks", I'd select my library in the iTunes sources table -- say, "Music". Then I'd navigate to the iTunes menu bar with either Control+F2 or VO-M, and press "s c" to move to the "Scripts" menu and VO-Space to open it. (For those of you using TrackPad Commander, do this by using a two finger double tap at the top of your TrackPad, then flick left a couple of times to "Scripts", and double tap to open the menu. You can also use QuickNav to navigate to the Scripts menu and open it; again, left arrowing twice from the Apple Menu will save you a few key presses over using the > right arrow, and open the Scripts menu by pressing the up and down arrow keys simultaneously.) Navigate to the option "Super Remove Dead Tracks" in the menu (with VO-Down arrow, arrowing down, or flicking down according to which Commander you are using) and select the option (press "Return" or VO-Space, or press the up and down arrow keys, or double tap, again according to which Commander you are using.) > > You'll get periodic menu prompts reporting the script's progress (e.g. 1000 songs scanned and 1 dead link found), and finally, you'll be told when this is down and have the option to view a log file of the dead links found and removed. > > The AppleScripts for iTunes are donationware. They're free to download, but if you find them useful you're encouraged to send in a donation. Also, since there has been some recent discussion about AppleScripts, I'll just mention that they can be saved either to a folder in your user account's Library folder or to the system's /Library folder. The difference is whether they appear in menus for your account or all user accounts, and also whether (if they are in Scripts folders for specific apps) whether they show up under the menu bar for that app or the general Scripts menu on the status menu bar. If you begin to use lots of AppleScripts, the general Scripts menu on the status menu bar can begin to get congested and more complicated to navigate, even when organized into folders. So I generally follow the directions given in Doug's AppleScripts site and put these into my own user account library under ~/Library/iTunes/Scripts. If this is the first time you've used AppleSc > ripts in iTunes, you'll have to create a "Scripts" folder. Just use the Command-Shift-G "go to folder" shortcut from Finder and type or paste in "~/Library/iTunes" (without quotation marks) into the text field and press return. If you don't feel comfortable using the tilde symbol (which means the current user), first press Command-Shift-H to go to your home directory, then when you press Command-Shift-G type or paste in "Library/iTunes" and press return. (Note there is no slash before "Library" in this case, and I believe Finder will ignore case.) If there is no "Scripts" folder you can create one with the Command-Shift-N shortcut to create a new folder, or by choosing the "New Folder" option in the "File" menu on the Finder menu bar. > > HTH. In general, the "AppleScripts for iTunes" site is quite useful, and when I want to find something that I think will exist there I do a Google search on "dougscripts" along with the iTunes function I'm looking for. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Sep 11, 2011, at 07:09, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> In the past I have incorrectly deleted items from my itunes Media Folder forgetting to delete them from the iTunes library. Is there any way to clean up the itunes library so that it matches the contents of the itunes Media Folder,? One way would be to delete the itunes library and re-create it from scratch but as it is rather large that could take a long time! >> Many thanks for any tips. >> >> Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Sep 12 20:32:13 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:32:13 +0100 Subject: XLD and CD writing FLAC+cue images [was Re: Writing Audio CD from Image Files] In-Reply-To: <630888AB-3D7D-4398-9435-322247724723@mac.com> References: <630888AB-3D7D-4398-9435-322247724723@mac.com> Message-ID: <50B4B400-C8AB-465A-8A3F-EC10333F562C@mac-access.net> hello Esther You're quite correct and I'm still astonished I overlooked the very very obvious. I can only put it down to our situation here so I'm grateful for your pointing out the error I made here. I wouldn't care, I've been advocating XLD as a ripper for ages. I use it all the time, which just makes it all the more unbelievable that I missed this function because I've used it before to do exactly what I needed to do this time. So thank again Esther for pointing out my stupid mistake. Lynne From moriond at mac.com Mon Sep 12 22:45:34 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:45:34 -1000 Subject: iTunes AppleScript "Super Remove Dead Tracks" [was Re: Cleaning up itunes library] In-Reply-To: References: <8E497510-503E-4D7E-B407-D7C64BB8AB0B@mac.com> Message-ID: Hello Paul, I'm glad the "Super Remove Dead Tracks" script worked for you, but I'm sorry that you had difficulty navigating to the download link. When I am on the web page for a specific AppleScript at the "AppleScripts for iTunes" site, I simply navigate to the heading for the script and then read the description. The two links for "download" and "read me pdf" immediately follow the description, so I navigate to them using right arrow (with QuickNav on) or VO-Right arrow in succession. Usually I'll first pass the "download" link and activate the "read me pdf" link (by pressing up and down arrows simultaneously with QuickNav on, or by using VO-Space) to bring up the description and check whether there are any more details of interest about how the script operates. Then I'll close the window with the "read me pdf" description (since I have Safari configured to open new links in new windows instead of new tabs) and left arrow (or VO-left arrow without QuickNav) to the "download" link and activate it. I don't usually bother to read through the instructions under the heading for "download & install" any more. I also have, courtesy of one of the earlier AppleScripts for iTunes distribution, and " Open Scripts Folder" AppleScript. (The name actually has a blank space at the beginning so that it will show up at the beginning of the alphabetically ordered menu.) Its contents look like this (just 4 lines that you can paste into the AppleScript Editor): tell application "Finder" open folder (((path to library folder from user domain) & "iTunes:Scripts") as string) activate end tell So when I want to navigate to my account Library's Scripts folder for iTunes, in Finder, I can go to the first menu entry for "Scripts" on my iTunes menu bar and find " Open Scripts Folder", which is simply the AppleScript that I listed above, located in my ~/Library/iTunes/Scripts folder. Selecting that will open a Finder window pointing to this folder. Then when I want to paste in a new AppleScript for iTunes, I just copy it from the installation window, switch Finder windows with Command-comma to the one pointing to the ~/Library/iTunes/Scripts folder, and paste in the app. I then eject the dmg file for the AppleScript, and send both the .zip file and .dmg file in my Downloads folder to the Trash. The AppleScripts for iTunes site was a big help when iTunes was transitioning in accessibility. A lot of the functions that we originally wanted to use were accessible as AppleScripts. It also turned out that a lot of features that general users wanted to be added to iTunes first showed up as AppleScripts on this site. In fact, at one time Doug had a "Missing Menu Commands" page that listed AppleScripts for features that were so useful that he thought they should be incorporated into the base iTunes. (Most of them eventually were adopted, which is why there is no longer a separate page with that title.) There are also apps for cleaning up duplicate entries (like "Corral all Dupes"), but if that situation has really gotten out of hand, there is a heavy duty paid version of the app called "Dupin" ($15). There's also a "Dupin Lite" app ($7.99 instead of $15) if you only want to identify and delete the duplicate tracks (false links), instead of also managing them (i.e., also clean up and consolidate multiple real entries for the same track in your library). However, a lot of the extensive list of donationware AppleScripts, which make up most of the site's entries, are also very good. Main site address of the AppleScripts for iTunes web site is: http://dougscripts.com/ Cheers, Esther On Sep 12, 2011, at 08:50, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello Esther, > Many thanks for the attached. YOu are amazing - you always have an answer for everything! the Super remove dead tracks script is indeed just what I need. It found 1090 dead tracks in my iTunes library and so was well worth running. Most of these dead tracks relate to audio books each of which contains 30 to 120 tracks. the most difficult thing with the script was getting it to download, as I could not find the "red download button" using VO and Safari 5.1. I eventually found the button via the item chooser. From then on it was straightforward. > Many thanks again for the pointer to the script. I will check out Doug's other scripts as he has a pretty nice collection. > All the best.... > > Paul Hopewell > On 11 Sep 2011, at 23:17, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> If I understand your request correctly, you've deleted items from your iTunes Media Folder using Finder instead of iTunes itself, and so you have dead links to entries that the iTunes database still records as being in your iTunes Library. If this is the case, you might try the AppleScript named "Super Remove Dead Tracks v3.2" from Doug Adams' Applescripts for iTunes site: >> http://dougscripts.com/212 >> >> Here's the description: >> Surveys iTunes for tracks whose files are no longer available (so-called "dead" tracks, as indicated by a "!" next to their names) and removes them. Outputs a text log listing the tracks that were removed by Name, Artist, and Album. >> >> OS X 10.6 or 10.7 only. Universal version for PowerPC machines available at the link below in the "Info" section. >> >> For each AppleScript on the dougscripts.com site there is both a "download" and "read me pdf" link. VoiceOver will also describe the first link with a title: "Click to download this script" and the second with "View or download a PDF version of this script's Read Me (which is included in the download)". >> >> Doug gives very complete information on how to install and use his AppleScripts, both on the web pages and in the accompanying PDF file for each AppleScript. On the page there is a "download & install" heading which gives the standard procedure for installing his AppleScripts: >> >> 1. Click the red download button. A .zip file will be downloaded to your "Downloads" folder. >> >> 2. The .zip file should open a disk image (.dmg) file which will mount and display in the Finder. >> Now, open a new Finder window and navigate to your [username]/Library/iTunes/Scripts/ folder. >> >> If there is no folder named "Scripts" there, create one. >> >> 3. Select and drag the files from the disk image window into the "Scripts" folder. Scripts placed in this folder will appear in the iTunes Scripts menu. >> >> 4. Close the disk image window and eject it from the Finder sidebar. >> >> >> For all versions of Mac OS X, you can copy and paste the files from the disk image window to the "Scripts" folder as an alternative to dragging it. >> >> The basic idea behind AppleScripts is that if you place them in a "Scripts" folder in your user account's Library folder, under the folder for a particular application (in this case, "iTunes"), then an additional menu named "Scripts" appears on the menu bar for that app, with menu options corresponding to that AppleScript. These work just like regular menu bar options. In the case of "Super Remove Dead Tracks", I'd select my library in the iTunes sources table -- say, "Music". Then I'd navigate to the iTunes menu bar with either Control+F2 or VO-M, and press "s c" to move to the "Scripts" menu and VO-Space to open it. (For those of you using TrackPad Commander, do this by using a two finger double tap at the top of your TrackPad, then flick left a couple of times to "Scripts", and double tap to open the menu. You can also use QuickNav to navigate to the Scripts menu and open it; again, left arrowing twice from the Apple Menu will save you a few key presses over using t > he >> right arrow, and open the Scripts menu by pressing the up and down arrow keys simultaneously.) Navigate to the option "Super Remove Dead Tracks" in the menu (with VO-Down arrow, arrowing down, or flicking down according to which Commander you are using) and select the option (press "Return" or VO-Space, or press the up and down arrow keys, or double tap, again according to which Commander you are using.) >> >> You'll get periodic menu prompts reporting the script's progress (e.g. 1000 songs scanned and 1 dead link found), and finally, you'll be told when this is down and have the option to view a log file of the dead links found and removed. >> >> The AppleScripts for iTunes are donationware. They're free to download, but if you find them useful you're encouraged to send in a donation. Also, since there has been some recent discussion about AppleScripts, I'll just mention that they can be saved either to a folder in your user account's Library folder or to the system's /Library folder. The difference is whether they appear in menus for your account or all user accounts, and also whether (if they are in Scripts folders for specific apps) whether they show up under the menu bar for that app or the general Scripts menu on the status menu bar. If you begin to use lots of AppleScripts, the general Scripts menu on the status menu bar can begin to get congested and more complicated to navigate, even when organized into folders. So I generally follow the directions given in Doug's AppleScripts site and put these into my own user account library under ~/Library/iTunes/Scripts. If this is the first time you've used Apple > Sc >> ripts in iTunes, you'll have to create a "Scripts" folder. Just use the Command-Shift-G "go to folder" shortcut from Finder and type or paste in "~/Library/iTunes" (without quotation marks) into the text field and press return. If you don't feel comfortable using the tilde symbol (which means the current user), first press Command-Shift-H to go to your home directory, then when you press Command-Shift-G type or paste in "Library/iTunes" and press return. (Note there is no slash before "Library" in this case, and I believe Finder will ignore case.) If there is no "Scripts" folder you can create one with the Command-Shift-N shortcut to create a new folder, or by choosing the "New Folder" option in the "File" menu on the Finder menu bar. >> >> HTH. In general, the "AppleScripts for iTunes" site is quite useful, and when I want to find something that I think will exist there I do a Google search on "dougscripts" along with the iTunes function I'm looking for. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Sep 11, 2011, at 07:09, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> In the past I have incorrectly deleted items from my itunes Media Folder forgetting to delete them from the iTunes library. Is there any way to clean up the itunes library so that it matches the contents of the itunes Media Folder,? One way would be to delete the itunes library and re-create it from scratch but as it is rather large that could take a long time! >>> Many thanks for any tips. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >> From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Tue Sep 13 00:48:08 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:48:08 -0500 Subject: iheart radio Message-ID: anyone try the new as of today IHeart radio? i can't get past the tnc screen. passthrough doesn't work, clicking doesn't work, triple click, (double tapping for the sighties way of thinking), doesn't work... help! From d.griffith at btinternet.com Tue Sep 13 06:56:42 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 06:56:42 +0100 Subject: Safari Bookmark Foders - The Method? Message-ID: <82FE3430-6D59-4347-B7EE-68EFEBE243C5@btinternet.com> Ok Here is where I have got to with managing bookmark folders on the Mac with Safari. I have not yet cracked getting the folders to appear in he actual bookmark menu but apparently this is possible. The instructions for sighted users do not appear to work with Voiceover though. However this works for me and apparently others find Safari bookmark organisation unintuitive so here is what is working for me so far. If anybody has better suggestions then please make them. Step 1. Create your bookmark folders. The easiest way to do this I have found is to simply press shift command N. You will get a untitled folder dialogue. simply press return to edit this into something more meaningful. Step 2 Having created your bookmark folder navigate to the page you want to add to the bookmark folder. Press command D for delta to add bookmark. Now press shift tab until you here a bookmark folder pop up button. VO space to open this up and locate the folder you have created . Select this and then tab forward until you hear add bookmark button. You will now have a bookmark in a bookmark folder. Step 3 To access your bookmark folders and bookmarks do the following llowing. Press option command B for bookmark. Voiceover will say navigation frame. Press shift tab and you will be on your list of bookmark folders which you can voiceover up and down to select which one you want. Once you are on on the bookmark folder you press tab twice. The first tab press will land you on search and the second press will land you on the list of bookmarks in the folder you have just selected. You then have to bring up the Vo context menu to select open the bookmark will open. VO Space only appears to allow editing of the bookmark name. This is a slightly convoluted method of organising and accessing bookmarks into folders but it works. . It is a little clunky as a method as what we are doing is accessing bookmark folders using the organisation interface. The element which is missing is the ability to transfer these created bookmark folders onto the main bookmark menu where they can be open as sub menus which would be more smooth. This is possible but when I try to follow the instructions for sighted users Voiceover says location may be hidden when I try to drop the folder into the main bookmark menu folder. So if anybody knows how to crack this final step I would be very grateful to hear. If this is confirmed as an issue then perhaps Apple should be contacted David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com From moriond at mac.com Tue Sep 13 09:11:26 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:11:26 -1000 Subject: Safari Bookmark Foders - The Method? In-Reply-To: <82FE3430-6D59-4347-B7EE-68EFEBE243C5@btinternet.com> References: <82FE3430-6D59-4347-B7EE-68EFEBE243C5@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Hello David, I'll just comment briefly on a few of your points. First of all, to open a bookmarked location from the "Show all Bookmarks" option under the "Bookmarks" menu of Safari (accessed with Command-Option-B as in "bravo"), you simply navigate to the bookmark and press space bar to be taken to the bookmarked web page. There is no need to bring up the context menu with VO-Shift-M. Secondly, you can organize your folders either in the table of collections or in the table corresponding to your selected collection. Pressing (VO-Space) the button for "New Collection" at the base of the collections table will create a new folder under the table of collections. Using the Command-Shift-N shortcut is another way of creating a folder here. If you press (VO-Space) the button for "New Folder" at the base of the table for your selected collection, you will create new folders within that table, which may be what you are trying to do. However, in the context of using the Command-Shift-N (as in "November") shortcut to create new folders, you can do this provided you first select/highlight an entry in that second table. In that case using the Command-Shift-N shortcut for new folders will create the folder immediately after your selected entry. If you have selected/highlighted a folder, then using the Command-Shift-N (for "November") shortcut will create a subfolder. If you have not selected a bookmark entry in this second table, then the only way you can create a folder is by pressing the "New Folder" button on this page. The new folder will be created at the end of your table in this instance. Also, if you select/highlight a bookmark entry and then navigate to the "New Folder" button and press it with VO-Space or with the Up and Down arrow key if you are using QuickNav, then a new folder will also be created after your highlighted bookmark. It is obviously easier just to use the Command-Shift-N (for "November") shortcut than to navigate to the "New Folder" button outside of the table and press it. The key here is that if you do not first highlight an entry in the second table, which contains the bookmarks (or folders) of your selected collection, then any time you press Command-Shift-N to create a folder, you will be creating that folder in the Table of collections, and not within your selected table, which I gather you want to be either the "Bookmarks Bar" or the "Bookmarks Menu". You seem to have made more work for yourself, since now you have a series of folders under the Collections Table whose contents you want to move to a specific collection -- for example, the "Bookmarks Menu". I suppose the easiest way to do this would be to select that entry in the "Collections" table. Then, if you had five folders you wanted to move into the "Bookmarks Menu" table, for example, navigate to the "New Folder" button and press it five times. That would add five untitled folders to your table of "Bookmarks Menu" bookmarks that you could then rename. You'd have to copy the contents of each collection folder and paste them into the correspondingly named folder in the "Bookmarks Menu" table. This would involve expanding the empty folder with VO-backslash so that instead VoiceOver announcing "collapsed level 0" when you have selected the folder it will say "expanded". Then you would navigate to select the folder to be copied in the Collections table, and move to its corresponding table of bookmarks. You can jump to that associated table with VO-Command-T (as in "tango"). Then you would have to interact (VO-Shift-Down arrow) and click in the table (e.g VO-Shift-Space), and do a select all (Command-A as in "alpha") and copy with Command-C as in "Charlie"). Use VO-Command-T (as in "tango") to jump back to the table of collections (or else tab to move there), and select your "Bookmarks Menu" as the collection. Jump back to the table associated with the Bookmarks Menu with VO-Command-T, interact, and move to the expanded folder then do your paste with Command-V as in "Victor". Collapse the folder with VO-backslash, and move to the next empty folder and expand it with VO-Backslash. Then repeat the process of copying and pasting. It sounds as though you want to put all bookmarks and folders into a single collection. The first one you can use is the "Bookmarks Bar". I generally separate my bookmarks so that the "Bookmarks Bar" only contains my top used bookmarks, and not folders. The reason is that the first 9 bookmarks can be opened with the shortcut of Command+the number of the bookmark in the "Bookmarks Bar". So Command+1 activates the first bookmark on the "Bookmarks Bar", Command+2 activates the second bookmark on the "Bookmarks Bar", etc. This is not true for any other Bookmark collection. It allows me to use java bookmarklets that act on the contents of the page -- for example, translating them. A low vision user could activate a bookmarklet to enlarge the font size of the text. I keep these bookmarklets on the Bookmarks Bar, and I put my folders into the Bookmarks Menu. Of course, you can organize your bookmarks in any way you choose. Finally, there is a nice freeware program that will alphabetically sort your Safari bookmarks, folders, and sub-folder with one click. It is called SafariSort, and is supposed to be Lion compatible, as well. You can find it at the MacUpdate site by Googling the name, which is a single word, along with "MacUpdate", which is also a single word: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/34101/safarisort If you want to take the precaution of keeping a copy of your Safari Bookmarks before you make any of these changes, your bookmarks are stored under your account in a "Bookmarks.plist" file: ~/Library/Safari/Bookmarks.plist You can either copy this to another location, or use the context menu for this file in Finder (VO-Shift-M as in "Mike") and select the option "Compress 'Bookmarks.plist'". This will create a zipped copy of the file that you can leave in place or move to another location. Remember, to open a bookmark, all you need to do is find it in the table of bookmarks and press the space bar. Hope this helps. Cheers, Esther On Sep 12, 2011, at 19:56, David Griffith wrote: > Ok > > Here is where I have got to with managing bookmark folders on the Mac with Safari. I have not yet cracked getting the folders to appear in he actual bookmark menu but apparently this is possible. The instructions > for sighted users do not appear to work with Voiceover though. > > However this works for me and apparently others find > Safari bookmark organisation unintuitive so here is what is working for me so far. If anybody has better suggestions then please make them. > > Step 1. > Create your bookmark folders. > The easiest way to do this I have found is to simply press shift command N. > You will get a untitled folder dialogue. simply press return to edit this into something more meaningful. > Step 2 > Having created your bookmark folder navigate to the page you want to add to the bookmark folder. > Press command D for delta to add bookmark. > Now press shift tab until you here a bookmark folder > pop up button. > VO space to open this up and locate the folder you have created . Select this and then tab forward until you hear add bookmark button. > > You will now have a bookmark in a bookmark folder. > Step 3 > To access your bookmark folders and bookmarks do the following llowing. > Press option command B for bookmark. > Voiceover will say navigation frame. > Press shift tab and you will be on your list of bookmark folders which you can voiceover up and down to select which one you want. Once you are on on the bookmark folder you press tab twice. The first tab press will land you on search and the second press will land you on the list of bookmarks in the folder you have just selected. You then have to bring up the Vo context menu to select open the bookmark will open. VO Space only appears to allow editing of the bookmark name. > > This is a slightly convoluted method of organising and accessing > bookmarks into folders but it works. . > It is a little clunky as a method as what we are doing is accessing bookmark folders using the organisation interface. > The element which is missing is the ability to transfer these created bookmark folders onto the main bookmark menu where they can be open as sub menus which would be more smooth. This is possible but when I try to follow the instructions for sighted users Voiceover says location may be hidden when I try to drop the folder into the main bookmark menu folder. So if anybody knows how to crack this final step I would be very grateful to hear. If this is confirmed as an issue then perhaps Apple should be > > contacted > David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Sep 13 10:30:06 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:30:06 +0200 Subject: Important information, please read Message-ID: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk> Hello everyone, At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with support requests. Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail is: anne at anarchie.org.uk James's e-mail is: james.austin at mac-access.net Thank you for your understanding. Anne From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Tue Sep 13 11:28:21 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:28:21 +0100 Subject: Update made things better! Message-ID: Hi All! I'm not sure and maybe some of you can confirm this ! Since I updated the security things seem to be working better! I'm still on snow leopard and pages in safari are back to loading properly and I can hear as I type in google fields again! Has anyone else noticed this! Colin From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Tue Sep 13 12:06:56 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:06:56 +0100 Subject: Important information, please read In-Reply-To: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk> References: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <721F804A-2D38-469B-9AF1-B69F7CD93321@virginmedia.com> send our best wishes to them On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with support requests. > > Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. > > For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail is: > anne at anarchie.org.uk > > James's e-mail is: > james.austin at mac-access.net > > Thank you for your understanding. > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Tue Sep 13 12:21:34 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:21:34 -0400 Subject: Important information, please read In-Reply-To: <721F804A-2D38-469B-9AF1-B69F7CD93321@virginmedia.com> References: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk> <721F804A-2D38-469B-9AF1-B69F7CD93321@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <007d01cc7207$4c5506c0$e4ff1440$@com> I wish them both the very best. Kristeen -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Julie Vaughan Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:07 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Important information, please read send our best wishes to them On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with support requests. > > Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. > > For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail is: > anne at anarchie.org.uk > > James's e-mail is: > james.austin at mac-access.net > > Thank you for your understanding. > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gailcrowe1959 at gmail.com Tue Sep 13 12:48:07 2011 From: gailcrowe1959 at gmail.com (Gail the U. S. Male) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 05:48:07 -0600 Subject: Important information, please read In-Reply-To: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk> References: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <005101cc720b$020c77c0$06256740$@com> I hope Gordon gets better soon! Lynn just hang in there, and know we're all thinking about you. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:30 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Important information, please read Hello everyone, At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with support requests. Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail is: anne at anarchie.org.uk James's e-mail is: james.austin at mac-access.net Thank you for your understanding. Anne <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Tue Sep 13 14:58:50 2011 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:58:50 +0100 Subject: Important information, please read In-Reply-To: <721F804A-2D38-469B-9AF1-B69F7CD93321@virginmedia.com> References: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk> <721F804A-2D38-469B-9AF1-B69F7CD93321@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <2A85208F-CE55-4367-8BCD-571FABB78E7E@googlemail.com> Hi. I really hope that Gordon gets better soon and he will be back with us. It is always horrible when something like this happens. I send my regards and get well wishes to Lynne and Gordon at this time. Regards. Lewis. On 13 Sep 2011, at 12:06, Julie Vaughan wrote: > send our best wishes to them > On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with support requests. >> >> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. >> >> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail is: >> anne at anarchie.org.uk >> >> James's e-mail is: >> james.austin at mac-access.net >> >> Thank you for your understanding. >> >> Anne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Sep 13 15:07:42 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:07:42 +0100 Subject: Important information, please read In-Reply-To: <005101cc720b$020c77c0$06256740$@com> References: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk> <005101cc720b$020c77c0$06256740$@com> Message-ID: <53CA227D-18D0-4054-BFEC-BB8D067895D0@googlemail.com> Hi yep i agree with every one els give lynn and gordan our best wishes and hope he's better soon. From Lee.Corman at ky.gov Tue Sep 13 15:35:22 2011 From: Lee.Corman at ky.gov (Corman, Lee (OFB-LV)) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:35:22 -0400 Subject: Important information, please read In-Reply-To: <007d01cc7207$4c5506c0$e4ff1440$@com> References: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk><721F804A-2D38-469B-9AF1-B69F7CD93321@virginmedia.com> <007d01cc7207$4c5506c0$e4ff1440$@com> Message-ID: My thoughts and prayers are with Lynne and Gordon. Lee Ms. Lee Corman Assistive Technology Specialist/Rehabilitation Instructor Charles McDowell Rehabilitation Center 8412 Westport Road Louisville, KY 40242 502-429 4460 -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Kristeen Hughes Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:22 AM To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: Important information, please read I wish them both the very best. Kristeen -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Julie Vaughan Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:07 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Important information, please read send our best wishes to them On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with support requests. > > Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. > > For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My > e-mail is: > anne at anarchie.org.uk > > James's e-mail is: > james.austin at mac-access.net > > Thank you for your understanding. > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From zkline at speedpost.net Tue Sep 13 17:50:34 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:50:34 -0700 Subject: Important information, please read In-Reply-To: References: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk><721F804A-2D38-469B-9AF1-B69F7CD93321@virginmedia.com> <007d01cc7207$4c5506c0$e4ff1440$@com> Message-ID: As are mine. I hope they can come back to us soon, healthy and well. On Sep 13, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Corman, Lee (OFB-LV) wrote: > > My thoughts and prayers are with Lynne and Gordon. > Lee > > Ms. Lee Corman Assistive Technology Specialist/Rehabilitation Instructor > Charles McDowell Rehabilitation Center 8412 Westport Road Louisville, KY > 40242 502-429 4460 > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Kristeen Hughes > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:22 AM > To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' > Subject: RE: Important information, please read > > I wish them both the very best. > > Kristeen > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Julie Vaughan > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:07 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Important information, please read > > send our best wishes to them > On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in > hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot > of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal > with support requests. >> >> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of > Support. >> >> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My >> e-mail > is: >> anne at anarchie.org.uk >> >> James's e-mail is: >> james.austin at mac-access.net >> >> Thank you for your understanding. >> >> Anne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Sep 13 18:49:25 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:49:25 +0100 Subject: OT: From Lynne & Gordon; Our Heartfelt and sincere thanks Message-ID: <3C774D8F-3EC4-4EE1-A229-CC7701719736@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I don't want to be accused of monopolising this list as happened last time I dared to make personal comment here. But the response has been so overwhelmingly favourable this time that I felt I had to write at least once. First of all, thank you very much to Anne and James for stepping into the breech as such short notice. I am deeply touched by all of the good wishes on the forum by members. I won't forget it. Gordon had an operation this afternoon and I'm on my way to see him very shortly. I have special dispensation from the hospital owing to the circumstances to stay late tonight with him. I won't detail on list what happened; but if anybody wants to know feel free to contact me privately, and I'll gladly let you know. I will also be sure to pass on all of your kind comments to Gordon; I am sure that at this difficult time he will find it uplifting. I am grateful to each and every one of you who has written, privately or otherwise. I want you all to know also that should anybody be thinking of purchasing TC books at this time, please don't hesitate. I will probably take a little longer than usual but I will still be more than happy to expedite your orders. My sincere gratitude once again to each and every one of you who have written. You put those who were supposed to be our friends but have ignored us of late to shame. Lynne From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Sep 13 18:56:51 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:56:51 +0100 Subject: OT: From Lynne & Gordon; Our Heartfelt and sincere thanks In-Reply-To: <3C774D8F-3EC4-4EE1-A229-CC7701719736@mac-access.net> References: <3C774D8F-3EC4-4EE1-A229-CC7701719736@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <88B1A86F-2C2E-4E74-93D1-D5062F3C70E8@blueyonder.co.uk> Lynne, Give gordon a great big fat kiss from me. He is not bad for a smog monster. Hugs and stuff Chris PS Sorry for not contacting privately, I have a 7pm deadline to hit! On 13 Sep 2011, at 18:49, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I don't want to be accused of monopolising this list as happened last time I dared to make personal comment here. But the response has been so overwhelmingly favourable this time that I felt I had to write at least once. > > First of all, thank you very much to Anne and James for stepping into the breech as such short notice. > > I am deeply touched by all of the good wishes on the forum by members. I won't forget it. Gordon had an operation this afternoon and I'm on my way to see him very shortly. I have special dispensation from the hospital owing to the circumstances to stay late tonight with him. > > I won't detail on list what happened; but if anybody wants to know feel free to contact me privately, and I'll gladly let you know. I will also be sure to pass on all of your kind comments to Gordon; I am sure that at this difficult time he will find it uplifting. > > I am grateful to each and every one of you who has written, privately or otherwise. I want you all to know also that should anybody be thinking of purchasing TC books at this time, please don't hesitate. I will probably take a little longer than usual but I will still be more than happy to expedite your orders. > > My sincere gratitude once again to each and every one of you who have written. You put those who were supposed to be our friends but have ignored us of late to shame. > > Lynne > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Sep 13 18:59:09 2011 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:59:09 +0100 Subject: OT: From Lynne & Gordon; Our Heartfelt and sincere thanks In-Reply-To: <88B1A86F-2C2E-4E74-93D1-D5062F3C70E8@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <3C774D8F-3EC4-4EE1-A229-CC7701719736@mac-access.net> <88B1A86F-2C2E-4E74-93D1-D5062F3C70E8@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <2520BC25-A927-4F15-9CFE-DB4D09421E04@googlemail.com> hi lynn as i said hope he's better soon and back with us with his teck no how smiley. From va3ets2000 at me.com Tue Sep 13 21:36:03 2011 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:36:03 -0400 Subject: AAC enhansed podcasts? Can we take advantage of what they offer with VO or not? Message-ID: Hey all, I often hear about the ability with AAC enhanced podcasts, to click links that are mentioned in the show, right from within iTunes. THis sounds really cool, and convenient. As Voiceover users, can we possibly take advantage of this? or not? It would save having to open up Safari and go to the show notes page for the podcast. From mfurness at bell.net Tue Sep 13 21:36:54 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:36:54 -0400 Subject: is there a device Message-ID: We are running I Macs, my wife with SL and I am using Lion. What we wish to do is play our songs and described movies, that are on our Macs through the stereo. While doing this, we would like control of 1. volume 2. select which song or movie we will listen to. 3. have vo read us the selections and currently playing mp3 file We were about to purchase an Apple TV, but believe this will not do what we desire. Can someone point us in the correct direction Please? Thank you for all information! Mark. I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. From margaretebooth at gmail.com Tue Sep 13 23:34:55 2011 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:34:55 +1000 Subject: Important information, please read In-Reply-To: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk> References: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <8754600549059911770@unknownmsgid> My thoughts are with Gordon and lynn and I hope Gordon gets well soon Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 13/09/2011, at 7:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with support requests. > > Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. > > For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail is: > anne at anarchie.org.uk > > James's e-mail is: > james.austin at mac-access.net > > Thank you for your understanding. > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Wed Sep 14 02:23:34 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:23:34 -0500 Subject: Important information, please read In-Reply-To: <007d01cc7207$4c5506c0$e4ff1440$@com> References: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk> <721F804A-2D38-469B-9AF1-B69F7CD93321@virginmedia.com> <007d01cc7207$4c5506c0$e4ff1440$@com> Message-ID: I send my thoughts and prayers as well, hope everything is ok. On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:21 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I wish them both the very best. > > Kristeen > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Julie Vaughan > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:07 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Important information, please read > > send our best wishes to them > On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in > hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of > time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with > support requests. >> >> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. >> >> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail > is: >> anne at anarchie.org.uk >> >> James's e-mail is: >> james.austin at mac-access.net >> >> Thank you for your understanding. >> >> Anne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rhondaprincess at gmail.com Wed Sep 14 02:46:33 2011 From: rhondaprincess at gmail.com (rhonda cruz) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:46:33 -0700 Subject: Mac-Access Digest, Vol 506, Issue 2 Message-ID: <4e700393.6500e70a.5ebc.ffffac0e@mx.google.com> i wish them the very best. > ----- Original Message ----- >From: mac-access-request at mac-access.net >To: mac-access at mac-access.net >Date sent: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:35:42 +0100 >Subject: Mac-Access Digest, Vol 506, Issue 2 >Send Mac-Access mailing list submissions to > mac-access at mac-access.net >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mac-access-request at mac-access.net >You can reach the person managing the list at > mac-access-owner at mac-access.net >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Mac-Access digest..." >_______________________________________ >This is the daily digest of messages posted to the Mac-Access E-Mail forum. >Today's Topics: > 1. Important information, please read (Anne Robertson) > 2. Update made things better! (Red.Falcon) > 3. Re: Important information, please read (Julie Vaughan) > 4. RE: Important information, please read (Kristeen Hughes) > 5. RE: Important information, please read (Gail the U. S. Male) > 6. Re: Important information, please read (Lewis Crack) > 7. Re: Important information, please read (Ian McNamara) > 8. RE: Important information, please read (Corman, Lee (OFB-LV)) >----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:30:06 +0200 >From: Anne Robertson To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Important information, please read >Message-ID: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2 at anarchie.org.uk >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Hello everyone, >At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with support requests. >Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. >For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail is: >anne at anarchie.org.uk >James's e-mail is: >james.austin at mac-access.net >Thank you for your understanding. >Anne >------------------------------ >Message: 2 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:28:21 +0100 >From: "Red.Falcon" To: mac access , macvisionaries group > , mobileaccess > Subject: Update made things better! >Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Hi All! >I'm not sure and maybe some of you can confirm this ! >Since I updated the security things seem to be working better! >I'm still on snow leopard and pages in safari are back to loading properly and I can hear as I type in google fields again! >Has anyone else noticed this! >Colin >------------------------------ >Message: 3 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:06:56 +0100 >From: Julie Vaughan To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Important information, please read >Message-ID: <721F804A-2D38-469B-9AF1-B69F7CD93321 at virginmedia.com >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >send our best wishes to them >On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with support requests. >> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. >> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail is: >> anne at anarchie.org.uk >> James's e-mail is: >> james.austin at mac-access.net >> Thank you for your understanding. >> Anne >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> ------------------------------ >Message: 4 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:21:34 -0400 >From: "Kristeen Hughes" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Subject: RE: Important information, please read >Message-ID: <007d01cc7207$4c5506c0$e4ff1440$@com >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I wish them both the very best. >Kristeen >-----Original Message----- >From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >[mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Julie Vaughan >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:07 AM >To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >Subject: Re: Important information, please read >send our best wishes to them >On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in >hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of >time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with >support requests. >> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. >> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail >is: >> anne at anarchie.org.uk >> James's e-mail is: >> james.austin at mac-access.net >> Thank you for your understanding. >> Anne >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >the list website at: >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >either the list's own dedicated web archive: >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >the list website at: >------------------------------ >Message: 5 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 05:48:07 -0600 >From: "Gail the U. S. Male" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Subject: RE: Important information, please read >Message-ID: <005101cc720b$020c77c0$06256740$@com >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >I hope Gordon gets better soon! Lynn just hang in there, and know we're all >thinking about you. >-----Original Message----- >From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >[mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:30 AM >To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >Subject: Important information, please read >Hello everyone, >At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in >hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of >time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with >support requests. >Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. >For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail >is: >anne at anarchie.org.uk >James's e-mail is: >james.austin at mac-access.net >Thank you for your understanding. >Anne ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >either the list's own dedicated web archive: >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >the list website at: >------------------------------ >Message: 6 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:58:50 +0100 >From: Lewis Crack To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Important information, please read >Message-ID: <2A85208F-CE55-4367-8BCD-571FABB78E7E at googlemail.com >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Hi. >I really hope that Gordon gets better soon and he will be back with us. It is always horrible when something like this happens. >I send my regards and get well wishes to Lynne and Gordon at this time. >Regards. >Lewis. >On 13 Sep 2011, at 12:06, Julie Vaughan wrote: >> send our best wishes to them >> On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with support requests. >>> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. >>> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail is: >>> anne at anarchie.org.uk >>> James's e-mail is: >>> james.austin at mac-access.net >>> Thank you for your understanding. >>> Anne >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> ------------------------------ >Message: 7 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:07:42 +0100 >From: Ian McNamara To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Important information, please read >Message-ID: <53CA227D-18D0-4054-BFEC-BB8D067895D0 at googlemail.com >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Hi yep i agree with every one els give lynn and gordan our best wishes and hope he's better soon. >------------------------------ >Message: 8 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:35:22 -0400 >From: "Corman, Lee (OFB-LV)" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: RE: Important information, please read >Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >My thoughts and prayers are with Lynne and Gordon. >Lee >Ms. Lee Corman Assistive Technology Specialist/Rehabilitation Instructor >Charles McDowell Rehabilitation Center 8412 Westport Road Louisville, KY >40242 502-429 4460 >-----Original Message----- >From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >[mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Kristeen Hughes >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:22 AM >To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' >Subject: RE: Important information, please read >I wish them both the very best. >Kristeen >-----Original Message----- >From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >[mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Julie Vaughan >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:07 AM >To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >Subject: Re: Important information, please read >send our best wishes to them >On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in >hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot >of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal >with support requests. >> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of >Support. >> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My >> e-mail >is: >> anne at anarchie.org.uk >> James's e-mail is: >> james.austin at mac-access.net >> Thank you for your understanding. >> Anne >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum >at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus >and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting >the list website at: >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at >either the list's own dedicated web archive: >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: >------------------------------ >_______________________________________________ >To reply to the posts in this digest, please address your messages to mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >End of Mac-Access Digest, Vol 506, Issue 2 >****************************************** From va3ets2000 at me.com Wed Sep 14 09:09:12 2011 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:09:12 -0400 Subject: is there a device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31960016-8BCD-4BAB-9425-5E8E5DDABBF3@me.com> Hi, I'm thinking maybe an Airport express, with the support for plugging in speakers that it has, , would do what you're wanting here? Just a thought. On Sep 13, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Mark Furness wrote: > We are running I Macs, my wife with SL and I am using Lion. > What we wish to do is play our songs and described movies, that are on our Macs through the stereo. > > While doing this, we would like control of 1. volume > 2. select which song or movie we will listen to. > 3. have vo read us the selections and currently playing mp3 file We were about to purchase an Apple TV, but believe this will not do what we desire. > > Can someone point us in the correct direction Please? > > Thank you for all information! > > Mark. > I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Wed Sep 14 09:17:30 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:17:30 +1000 Subject: is there a device In-Reply-To: <31960016-8BCD-4BAB-9425-5E8E5DDABBF3@me.com> References: <31960016-8BCD-4BAB-9425-5E8E5DDABBF3@me.com> Message-ID: Apple TV sounds more like the way to go as it can be controlled in the way you want. On 14/09/2011, at 6:09 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Hi, I'm thinking maybe an Airport express, with the support for plugging in speakers that it has, , would do what you're wanting here? Just a thought. > On Sep 13, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Mark Furness wrote: > >> We are running I Macs, my wife with SL and I am using Lion. >> What we wish to do is play our songs and described movies, that are on our Macs through the stereo. >> >> While doing this, we would like control of 1. volume >> 2. select which song or movie we will listen to. >> 3. have vo read us the selections and currently playing mp3 file We were about to purchase an Apple TV, but believe this will not do what we desire. >> >> Can someone point us in the correct direction Please? >> >> Thank you for all information! >> >> Mark. >> I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From venables134 at btinternet.com Wed Sep 14 09:21:55 2011 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:21:55 +0100 Subject: Important information, please read In-Reply-To: References: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk><721F804A-2D38-469B-9AF1-B69F7CD93321@virginmedia.com><007d01cc7207$4c5506c0$e4ff1440$@com> Message-ID: Hi Lynn my thoughts are with you and Gordon. I really hope he gets better soon and is back with us! Daniel -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Arrigo" Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:23 AM To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Re: Important information, please read > I send my thoughts and prayers as well, hope everything is ok. > On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:21 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> I wish them both the very best. >> >> Kristeen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Julie Vaughan >> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:07 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Important information, please read >> >> send our best wishes to them >> On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in >> hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot >> of >> time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with >> support requests. >>> >>> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of >>> Support. >>> >>> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My >>> e-mail >> is: >>> anne at anarchie.org.uk >>> >>> James's e-mail is: >>> james.austin at mac-access.net >>> >>> Thank you for your understanding. >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From rhondaprincess at gmail.com Wed Sep 14 13:00:25 2011 From: rhondaprincess at gmail.com (rhonda cruz) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 05:00:25 -0700 Subject: Mac-Access Digest, Vol 507, Issue 1 Message-ID: <4e709371.8c71ec0a.48b4.4ae9@mx.google.com> I wish them the vary best rhonda and mya hugs and wags lin and gorden both. > ----- Original Message ----- >From: mac-access-request at mac-access.net >To: mac-access at mac-access.net >Date sent: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:23:42 +0100 >Subject: Mac-Access Digest, Vol 507, Issue 1 >Send Mac-Access mailing list submissions to > mac-access at mac-access.net >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mac-access-request at mac-access.net >You can reach the person managing the list at > mac-access-owner at mac-access.net >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Mac-Access digest..." >_______________________________________ >This is the daily digest of messages posted to the Mac-Access E-Mail forum. >Today's Topics: > 1. Re: Important information, please read (Zachary Kline) > 2. OT: From Lynne & Gordon; Our Heartfelt and sincere thanks > (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) > 3. Re: OT: From Lynne & Gordon; Our Heartfelt and sincere thanks > (Chris Moore) > 4. Re: OT: From Lynne & Gordon; Our Heartfelt and sincere thanks > (Ian McNamara) > 5. AAC enhansed podcasts? Can we take advantage of what they > offer with VO or not? (Dan Eickmeier) > 6. is there a device (Mark Furness) > 7. Re: Important information, please read (Margaret Booth) > 8. Re: Important information, please read (Mike Arrigo) >----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:50:34 -0700 >From: Zachary Kline To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Important information, please read >Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >As are mine. I hope they can come back to us soon, healthy and well. >On Sep 13, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Corman, Lee (OFB-LV) wrote: >> My thoughts and prayers are with Lynne and Gordon. >> Lee >> Ms. Lee Corman Assistive Technology Specialist/Rehabilitation Instructor >> Charles McDowell Rehabilitation Center 8412 Westport Road Louisville, KY >> 40242 502-429 4460 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Kristeen Hughes >> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:22 AM >> To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' >> Subject: RE: Important information, please read >> I wish them both the very best. >> Kristeen >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Julie Vaughan >> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:07 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Important information, please read >> send our best wishes to them >> On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in >> hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot >> of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal >> with support requests. >>> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of >> Support. >>> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My >>> e-mail >> is: >>> anne at anarchie.org.uk >>> James's e-mail is: >>> james.austin at mac-access.net >>> Thank you for your understanding. >>> Anne >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >> forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus >> and worm-free! >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >> the list website at: >>> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >> forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> ------------------------------ >Message: 2 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:49:25 +0100 >From: "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: OT: From Lynne & Gordon; Our Heartfelt and sincere thanks >Message-ID: <3C774D8F-3EC4-4EE1-A229-CC7701719736 at mac-access.net >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Hello everybody >I don't want to be accused of monopolising this list as happened last time I dared to make personal comment here. But the response has been so overwhelmingly favourable this time that I felt I had to write at least once. >First of all, thank you very much to Anne and James for stepping into the breech as such short notice. >I am deeply touched by all of the good wishes on the forum by members. I won't forget it. Gordon had an operation this afternoon and I'm on my way to see him very shortly. I have special dispensation from the hospital owing to the circumstances to stay late tonight with him. >I won't detail on list what happened; but if anybody wants to know feel free to contact me privately, and I'll gladly let you know. I will also be sure to pass on all of your kind comments to Gordon; I am sure that at this difficult time he will find it uplifting. >I am grateful to each and every one of you who has written, privately or otherwise. I want you all to know also that should anybody be thinking of purchasing TC books at this time, please don't hesitate. I will probably take a little longer than usual but I will still be more than happy to expedite your orders. >My sincere gratitude once again to each and every one of you who have written. You put those who were supposed to be our friends but have ignored us of late to shame. >Lynne >------------------------------ >Message: 3 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:56:51 +0100 >From: Chris Moore To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: OT: From Lynne & Gordon; Our Heartfelt and sincere thanks >Message-ID: <88B1A86F-2C2E-4E74-93D1-D5062F3C70E8 at blueyonder.co.uk >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Lynne, >Give gordon a great big fat kiss from me. He is not bad for a smog monster. >Hugs and stuff >Chris >PS Sorry for not contacting privately, I have a 7pm deadline to hit! >On 13 Sep 2011, at 18:49, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> Hello everybody >> I don't want to be accused of monopolising this list as happened last time I dared to make personal comment here. But the response has been so overwhelmingly favourable this time that I felt I had to write at least once. >> First of all, thank you very much to Anne and James for stepping into the breech as such short notice. >> I am deeply touched by all of the good wishes on the forum by members. I won't forget it. Gordon had an operation this afternoon and I'm on my way to see him very shortly. I have special dispensation from the hospital owing to the circumstances to stay late tonight with him. >> I won't detail on list what happened; but if anybody wants to know feel free to contact me privately, and I'll gladly let you know. I will also be sure to pass on all of your kind comments to Gordon; I am sure that at this difficult time he will find it uplifting. >> I am grateful to each and every one of you who has written, privately or otherwise. I want you all to know also that should anybody be thinking of purchasing TC books at this time, please don't hesitate. I will probably take a little longer than usual but I will still be more than happy to expedite your orders. >> My sincere gratitude once again to each and every one of you who have written. You put those who were supposed to be our friends but have ignored us of late to shame. >> Lynne >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> ------------------------------ >Message: 4 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:59:09 +0100 >From: Ian McNamara To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: OT: From Lynne & Gordon; Our Heartfelt and sincere thanks >Message-ID: <2520BC25-A927-4F15-9CFE-DB4D09421E04 at googlemail.com >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >hi lynn as i said hope he's better soon and back with us with his teck no how smiley. >------------------------------ >Message: 5 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:36:03 -0400 >From: Dan Eickmeier To: iOS Accessibility Mac OSX & Subject: AAC enhansed podcasts? Can we take advantage of what they > offer with VO or not? >Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII >Hey all, I often hear about the ability with AAC enhanced podcasts, to click links that are mentioned in the show, right from within iTunes. THis sounds really cool, and convenient. As Voiceover users, can we possibly take advantage of this? or not? It would save having to open up Safari and go to the show notes page for the podcast. >------------------------------ >Message: 6 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:36:54 -0400 >From: Mark Furness To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: is there a device >Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >We are running I Macs, my wife with SL and I am using Lion. >What we wish to do is play our songs and described movies, that are on our Macs through the stereo. >While doing this, we would like control of 1. volume >2. select which song or movie we will listen to. >3. have vo read us the selections and currently playing mp3 file We were about to purchase an Apple TV, but believe this will not do what we desire. >Can someone point us in the correct direction Please? >Thank you for all information! >Mark. > I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. >------------------------------ >Message: 7 >Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:34:55 +1000 >From: Margaret Booth To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Re: Important information, please read >Message-ID: <8754600549059911770 at unknownmsgid >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >My thoughts are with Gordon and lynn and I hope Gordon gets well soon >Margaret >Sent from my iPhone >On 13/09/2011, at 7:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with support requests. >> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. >> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail is: >> anne at anarchie.org.uk >> James's e-mail is: >> james.austin at mac-access.net >> Thank you for your understanding. >> Anne >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> ------------------------------ >Message: 8 >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:23:34 -0500 >From: Mike Arrigo To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Important information, please read >Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >I send my thoughts and prayers as well, hope everything is ok. >On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:21 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >> I wish them both the very best. >> Kristeen >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Julie Vaughan >> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:07 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Important information, please read >> send our best wishes to them >> On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in >> hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of >> time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with >> support requests. >>> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. >>> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail >> is: >>> anne at anarchie.org.uk >>> James's e-mail is: >>> james.austin at mac-access.net >>> Thank you for your understanding. >>> Anne >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >>> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> ------------------------------ >_______________________________________________ >To reply to the posts in this digest, please address your messages to mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find an archive of all messages posted since 12 April 2010 to the Mac-Access forum at: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ >End of Mac-Access Digest, Vol 507, Issue 1 >****************************************** From mfurness at bell.net Wed Sep 14 12:52:41 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:52:41 -0400 Subject: is there a device In-Reply-To: <31960016-8BCD-4BAB-9425-5E8E5DDABBF3@me.com> References: <31960016-8BCD-4BAB-9425-5E8E5DDABBF3@me.com> Message-ID: I am about to try an airport express. Apple thinks this shall work If not, We shall download our files onto our IPhones, then play them through the airport express. Thank you for your information Dan. Mark On 2011-09-14, at 4:09 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Hi, I'm thinking maybe an Airport express, with the support for plugging in speakers that it has, , would do what you're wanting here? Just a thought. > On Sep 13, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Mark Furness wrote: > >> We are running I Macs, my wife with SL and I am using Lion. >> What we wish to do is play our songs and described movies, that are on our Macs through the stereo. >> >> While doing this, we would like control of 1. volume >> 2. select which song or movie we will listen to. >> 3. have vo read us the selections and currently playing mp3 file We were about to purchase an Apple TV, but believe this will not do what we desire. >> >> Can someone point us in the correct direction Please? >> >> Thank you for all information! >> >> Mark. >> I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Sep 14 13:19:57 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:19:57 -0400 Subject: is there a device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <617C0003-D718-4667-8968-50E4BE39093E@softcon.com> Why not use a shared itunes library over the network, then just plug your stereo into the headphone jack of your mac. That would allow you to play anything on itunes through your stereo, and you'd still have econtrol over everything. There's no device required, only a patch cable to go from your earphone output to your stereo's rca input jacks. A cable that should cost only a few dollars at any electronics store/department. From d.griffith at btinternet.com Wed Sep 14 14:00:05 2011 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:00:05 +0100 Subject: Important information, please read In-Reply-To: References: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk><721F804A-2D38-469B-9AF1-B69F7CD93321@virginmedia.com><007d01cc7207$4c5506c0$e4ff1440$@com> Message-ID: <0E58932B-71BF-4CCE-938F-507F9B4B6DB4@btinternet.com> David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com I too, although a new member of this list, would like to extend my thoughts at what must be a very disturbing tiring and difficult time. I hope that there are easier times ahead. Regards David Griffith On 14 Sep 2011, at 09:21, Daniel McGee wrote: > Hi Lynn my thoughts are with you and Gordon. I really hope he gets better soon and is back with us! > > Daniel > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Mike Arrigo" > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:23 AM > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Subject: Re: Important information, please read > >> I send my thoughts and prayers as well, hope everything is ok. >> On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:21 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >> >>> I wish them both the very best. >>> >>> Kristeen >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Julie Vaughan >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:07 AM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: Important information, please read >>> >>> send our best wishes to them >>> On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in >>> hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of >>> time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with >>> support requests. >>>> >>>> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. >>>> >>>> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail >>> is: >>>> anne at anarchie.org.uk >>>> >>>> James's e-mail is: >>>> james.austin at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> Thank you for your understanding. >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Wed Sep 14 15:52:08 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Thejazzden) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:52:08 +0100 Subject: test please ignore. Message-ID: <9022BA75-110D-463F-A561-B392407436F0@thejazzden.org.uk> testing to see if I am at last re-subscribed. Please ignore. From klcox1 at cox.net Wed Sep 14 16:19:02 2011 From: klcox1 at cox.net (Karin Cox) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:19:02 -0700 Subject: is there a device In-Reply-To: References: <31960016-8BCD-4BAB-9425-5E8E5DDABBF3@me.com> Message-ID: <72EC45A9-B8FF-4753-A0E5-5989CBCBD1C3@cox.net> Thanks, Karin On Sep 14, 2011, at 4:52 AM, Mark Furness wrote: > I am about to try an airport express. Apple thinks this shall work If not, We shall download our files onto our IPhones, then play them through the airport express. > > Thank you for your information Dan. > > Mark > On 2011-09-14, at 4:09 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> Hi, I'm thinking maybe an Airport express, with the support for plugging in speakers that it has, , would do what you're wanting here? Just a thought. >> On Sep 13, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Mark Furness wrote: >> >>> We are running I Macs, my wife with SL and I am using Lion. >>> What we wish to do is play our songs and described movies, that are on our Macs through the stereo. >>> >>> While doing this, we would like control of 1. volume >>> 2. select which song or movie we will listen to. >>> 3. have vo read us the selections and currently playing mp3 file We were about to purchase an Apple TV, but believe this will not do what we desire. >>> >>> Can someone point us in the correct direction Please? >>> >>> Thank you for all information! >>> >>> Mark. >>> I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mfurness at bell.net Wed Sep 14 17:28:24 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:28:24 -0400 Subject: is there a device In-Reply-To: <617C0003-D718-4667-8968-50E4BE39093E@softcon.com> References: <617C0003-D718-4667-8968-50E4BE39093E@softcon.com> Message-ID: There is about 75 feet between the computer and the stereo Mark. On 2011-09-14, at 8:19 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Why not use a shared itunes library over the network, then just plug your stereo into the headphone jack of your mac. That would allow you to play anything on itunes through your stereo, and you'd still have econtrol over everything. There's no device required, only a patch cable to go from your earphone output to your stereo's rca input jacks. A cable that should cost only a few dollars at any electronics store/department. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Wed Sep 14 17:46:02 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Thejazzden) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:46:02 +0100 Subject: is there a device In-Reply-To: <72EC45A9-B8FF-4753-A0E5-5989CBCBD1C3@cox.net> References: <31960016-8BCD-4BAB-9425-5E8E5DDABBF3@me.com> <72EC45A9-B8FF-4753-A0E5-5989CBCBD1C3@cox.net> Message-ID: <848AA046-2296-4370-A0B4-E5BF3CBAE159@thejazzden.org.uk> Hello Listers Could someone clarify why the MacTV would not work in this situation? Am I wrong in thinking that now with Lion supporting AirPlay that Mac tv is taking over from the more limited application of 'AirPort Express? If I'm misinformed, please do not reply with a deluge of messages as happened when discussing the inaccessibility of Mac TV a short while ago. :) I love the Apple products but am finding it hard keeping up with it all these days. A succinct, accurate reply would be welcomed - aqdvantages and disadvantages of Airport Express and Mac TV please. Dennis Freedman. Sent from my iPhone On 14 Sep 2011, at 16:19, Karin Cox wrote: > Thanks, Karin > > On Sep 14, 2011, at 4:52 AM, Mark Furness wrote: > >> I am about to try an airport express. Apple thinks this shall work If not, We shall download our files onto our IPhones, then play them through the airport express. >> >> Thank you for your information Dan. >> >> Mark >> On 2011-09-14, at 4:09 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> >>> Hi, I'm thinking maybe an Airport express, with the support for plugging in speakers that it has, , would do what you're wanting here? Just a thought. >>> On Sep 13, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Mark Furness wrote: >>> >>>> We are running I Macs, my wife with SL and I am using Lion. >>>> What we wish to do is play our songs and described movies, that are on our Macs through the stereo. >>>> >>>> While doing this, we would like control of 1. volume >>>> 2. select which song or movie we will listen to. >>>> 3. have vo read us the selections and currently playing mp3 file We were about to purchase an Apple TV, but believe this will not do what we desire. >>>> >>>> Can someone point us in the correct direction Please? >>>> >>>> Thank you for all information! >>>> >>>> Mark. >>>> I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris at mysticplace.info Wed Sep 14 18:04:39 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:04:39 -0400 Subject: is there a device In-Reply-To: <848AA046-2296-4370-A0B4-E5BF3CBAE159@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <72EC45A9-B8FF-4753-A0E5-5989CBCBD1C3@cox.net> <848AA046-2296-4370-A0B4-E5BF3CBAE159@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <20110914130438.D049.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Hi, The apple TV should work fine in this situation. They would have access to their local media as they wish, but would also have access to netflix podcasts in the Apple TV and also loads of internet streaming radio stations. When I bought my Apple TV I bought it to stream my local media collection as I was doing for years using an old CD3O networked mp3 player. I find I do that less and less and use the Apple TV for its other functions. I was also able to stream XM Radio using the Music Doc app on my iPhone to the apple TV using airplay.. This allowed it to come through my connected stereo. On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:46:02 +0100 Thejazzden wrote: > Hello Listers > Could someone clarify why the MacTV would not work in this situation? Am I wrong in thinking that now with Lion supporting AirPlay that Mac tv is taking over from the more limited application of 'AirPort Express? > If I'm misinformed, please do not reply with a deluge of messages as happened when discussing the inaccessibility of Mac TV a short while ago. :) I love the Apple products but am finding it hard keeping up with it all these days. A succinct, accurate reply would be welcomed - aqdvantages and disadvantages of Airport Express and Mac TV please. > > > Dennis Freedman. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 14 Sep 2011, at 16:19, Karin Cox wrote: > > > Thanks, Karin > > > > On Sep 14, 2011, at 4:52 AM, Mark Furness wrote: > > > >> I am about to try an airport express. Apple thinks this shall work If not, We shall download our files onto our IPhones, then play them through the airport express. > >> > >> Thank you for your information Dan. > >> > >> Mark > >> On 2011-09-14, at 4:09 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, I'm thinking maybe an Airport express, with the support for plugging in speakers that it has, , would do what you're wanting here? Just a thought. > >>> On Sep 13, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Mark Furness wrote: > >>> > >>>> We are running I Macs, my wife with SL and I am using Lion. > >>>> What we wish to do is play our songs and described movies, that are on our Macs through the stereo. > >>>> > >>>> While doing this, we would like control of 1. volume > >>>> 2. select which song or movie we will listen to. > >>>> 3. have vo read us the selections and currently playing mp3 file We were about to purchase an Apple TV, but believe this will not do what we desire. > >>>> > >>>> Can someone point us in the correct direction Please? > >>>> > >>>> Thank you for all information! > >>>> > >>>> Mark. > >>>> I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. > >>>> > >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >>>> > >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >>>> > >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >>>> > >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: > >>>> . > >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >>>> > >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > >>>> > >>> > >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >>> > >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >>> > >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >>> > >>> or at the public Mail Archive: > >>> . > >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >>> > >>> > >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >>> > >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > >>> > >>> > >> > >> I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. > >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >> > >> or at the public Mail Archive: > >> . > >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > >> > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Wed Sep 14 18:36:32 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:36:32 +0100 Subject: How to delete an album and all its tracks from itunes Message-ID: <4B4633F5-7619-448D-8A07-8E0ADE9E7A41@hopewell.org.uk> Hello All, I am having problems deleting an album and all its tracks from both the iTunes library and the iTunes Media Folder. I go to Sources and select Music. I then enter the Album title in the search string. This results in a Music table listing all the tracks in the Album. I then interact with this Music table and do Command+A to select all the tracks in the Album. This sometimes works and selects all the tracks but mostly it does not work and only selects 1 track. I cannot fathom out what is different between the cases where it works and the cases where it does not work. I then tried the Grid View and again entered the Album title. This resulted in a Music Grid with one entry - the desired album. I tried pressing the Delete key in the hope that this would delete the Album but no joy. The Albums in question are actually audio books which I am converting to M4B format using Audio Book Binder. the conversion works fine and I now want to delete the original books from both the iTunes library and from my media folder. I am getting annoyed with this and so would much appreciate any tips! Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Sep 14 18:45:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:45:24 +0100 Subject: is there a device For Remote Playback? In-Reply-To: References: <617C0003-D718-4667-8968-50E4BE39093E@softcon.com> Message-ID: <67C81D39-226B-4EC0-98AA-CCC643E19364@mac-access.net> Mark I agree with Dane, Apple TV is probably your best bet. By the way I'm changing your subject like to something more descriptive. if you could try and be a little more so in the future, it would be appreciated. It would help members decide whether they need to open your post. Thank you. Lynne On 14 Sep 2011, at 17:28, Mark Furness wrote: There is about 75 feet between the computer and the stereo From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Wed Sep 14 19:00:57 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:00:57 +0100 Subject: How to delete an album and all its tracks from itunes In-Reply-To: <4B4633F5-7619-448D-8A07-8E0ADE9E7A41@hopewell.org.uk> References: <4B4633F5-7619-448D-8A07-8E0ADE9E7A41@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <7ABE3DAC-4C06-4B02-BE6D-FA90B7820961@virginmedia.com> Hi Paul! Well I use the grid view all the time! What I do is when I found the album in question, go to its table of contents and open it, then select all then press the delete key and a window pops up asking if I'm sure, press on the ok and on the next one the option to keep the files in the media and just press on the remove option, and then its gone! hth Colin On 14 Sep 2011, at 18:36, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello All, > I am having problems deleting an album and all its tracks from both the iTunes library and the iTunes Media Folder. > > I go to Sources and select Music. I then enter the Album title in the search string. This results in a Music table listing all the tracks in the Album. I then interact with this Music table and do Command+A to select all the tracks in the Album. This sometimes works and selects all the tracks but mostly it does not work and only selects 1 track. I cannot fathom out what is different between the cases where it works and the cases where it does not work. > > I then tried the Grid View and again entered the Album title. This resulted in a Music Grid with one entry - the desired album. I tried pressing the Delete key in the hope that this would delete the Album but no joy. > > The Albums in question are actually audio books which I am converting to M4B format using Audio Book Binder. the conversion works fine and I now want to delete the original books from both the iTunes library and from my media folder. > > I am getting annoyed with this and so would much appreciate any tips! > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Wed Sep 14 19:17:43 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:17:43 +0100 Subject: How to delete an album and all its tracks from itunes In-Reply-To: <7ABE3DAC-4C06-4B02-BE6D-FA90B7820961@virginmedia.com> References: <4B4633F5-7619-448D-8A07-8E0ADE9E7A41@hopewell.org.uk> <7ABE3DAC-4C06-4B02-BE6D-FA90B7820961@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <30042617-0E5A-4552-8A52-F803E83DC26A@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Red, Something like that used to work on Snow Leopard. However on Lion the Select All step only works some of the time. Are you running Lion or Snow Leopard? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell On 14 Sep 2011, at 19:00, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Paul! > Well I use the grid view all the time! > What I do is when I found the album in question, go to its table of contents and open it, then select all then press the delete key and a window pops up asking if I'm sure, press on the ok and on the next one the option to keep the files in the media and just press on the remove option, and then its gone! > hth Colin > On 14 Sep 2011, at 18:36, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello All, >> I am having problems deleting an album and all its tracks from both the iTunes library and the iTunes Media Folder. >> >> I go to Sources and select Music. I then enter the Album title in the search string. This results in a Music table listing all the tracks in the Album. I then interact with this Music table and do Command+A to select all the tracks in the Album. This sometimes works and selects all the tracks but mostly it does not work and only selects 1 track. I cannot fathom out what is different between the cases where it works and the cases where it does not work. >> >> I then tried the Grid View and again entered the Album title. This resulted in a Music Grid with one entry - the desired album. I tried pressing the Delete key in the hope that this would delete the Album but no joy. >> >> The Albums in question are actually audio books which I am converting to M4B format using Audio Book Binder. the conversion works fine and I now want to delete the original books from both the iTunes library and from my media folder. >> >> I am getting annoyed with this and so would much appreciate any tips! >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From desiandcandy at q.com Wed Sep 14 19:21:47 2011 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:21:47 -0700 Subject: Important information, please read In-Reply-To: <0E58932B-71BF-4CCE-938F-507F9B4B6DB4@btinternet.com> References: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk><721F804A-2D38-469B-9AF1-B69F7CD93321@virginmedia.com><007d01cc7207$4c5506c0$e4ff1440$@com> <0E58932B-71BF-4CCE-938F-507F9B4B6DB4@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <82C6A514-15B0-4516-864F-26A62F46D326@q.com> Hi Lynne, Circumstances have kept me a little bit behind with my e-mail, but I too want to extend my best wishes for a speedy recovery for Gordon! Please know that my thoughts and prayers are with you both! Desi On Sep 14, 2011, at 6:00 AM, David Griffith wrote: > > David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > I too, although a new member of this list, would like to extend my thoughts at what must be a very disturbing tiring and difficult time. I hope that there are easier times ahead. > > > Regards > > David Griffith > > On 14 Sep 2011, at 09:21, Daniel McGee wrote: > >> Hi Lynn my thoughts are with you and Gordon. I really hope he gets better soon and is back with us! >> >> Daniel >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Mike Arrigo" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:23 AM >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Subject: Re: Important information, please read >> >>> I send my thoughts and prayers as well, hope everything is ok. >>> On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:21 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >>> >>>> I wish them both the very best. >>>> >>>> Kristeen >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Julie Vaughan >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:07 AM >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: Important information, please read >>>> >>>> send our best wishes to them >>>> On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> >>>>> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in >>>> hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of >>>> time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with >>>> support requests. >>>>> >>>>> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. >>>>> >>>>> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail >>>> is: >>>>> anne at anarchie.org.uk >>>>> >>>>> James's e-mail is: >>>>> james.austin at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your understanding. >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Wed Sep 14 19:46:11 2011 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:46:11 +0100 Subject: How to delete an album and all its tracks from itunes In-Reply-To: <30042617-0E5A-4552-8A52-F803E83DC26A@hopewell.org.uk> References: <4B4633F5-7619-448D-8A07-8E0ADE9E7A41@hopewell.org.uk> <7ABE3DAC-4C06-4B02-BE6D-FA90B7820961@virginmedia.com> <30042617-0E5A-4552-8A52-F803E83DC26A@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Paul! OK yes I'm still on snow Leopard! Sorry about that! Colin AKA Red! On 14 Sep 2011, at 19:17, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Red, > Something like that used to work on Snow Leopard. However on Lion the Select All step only works some of the time. Are you running Lion or Snow Leopard? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > On 14 Sep 2011, at 19:00, Red.Falcon wrote: > >> Hi Paul! >> Well I use the grid view all the time! >> What I do is when I found the album in question, go to its table of contents and open it, then select all then press the delete key and a window pops up asking if I'm sure, press on the ok and on the next one the option to keep the files in the media and just press on the remove option, and then its gone! >> hth Colin >> On 14 Sep 2011, at 18:36, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello All, >>> I am having problems deleting an album and all its tracks from both the iTunes library and the iTunes Media Folder. >>> >>> I go to Sources and select Music. I then enter the Album title in the search string. This results in a Music table listing all the tracks in the Album. I then interact with this Music table and do Command+A to select all the tracks in the Album. This sometimes works and selects all the tracks but mostly it does not work and only selects 1 track. I cannot fathom out what is different between the cases where it works and the cases where it does not work. >>> >>> I then tried the Grid View and again entered the Album title. This resulted in a Music Grid with one entry - the desired album. I tried pressing the Delete key in the hope that this would delete the Album but no joy. >>> >>> The Albums in question are actually audio books which I am converting to M4B format using Audio Book Binder. the conversion works fine and I now want to delete the original books from both the iTunes library and from my media folder. >>> >>> I am getting annoyed with this and so would much appreciate any tips! >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Sep 15 03:09:15 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:09:15 +1000 Subject: 1 Password Message-ID: <1A670542-4718-4BBD-AACC-79ADDAAF92E5@internode.on.net> Folks, if you're considering the 1 Password app for your Mac then jump in now! price of app on the Mac App store goes up tomorrow. From moriond at mac.com Thu Sep 15 09:17:54 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:17:54 -1000 Subject: Nebulous Notes - iOS note-taking app free for a day Message-ID: <14C5F010-A56E-49A5-9B99-4CE3559D297D@mac.com> Hi All, I noticed that Nebulous Notes, which is reviewed by Rose at the AppleVis site for iOS apps, is now gone free. It typically only goes free for 24 hours, which means that it will probably continue to be free for about half a day. What's interesting is a recent change that they made to the Settings menu of this app that allows you to take advantage of features with improved accessibility. At the time Rose reviewed an earlier version one year ago, she wrote that the developer could have labeled one or two buttons more clearly, but you could tell what they are. Well, there is now a button in the Settings menu that allows you to customize your Keyboard Utility Bar with your own labels. This Keyboard Utility Bar is normally toggled off, and people have been using the app just for its ability to sync with Dropbox, and also (in the case of low vision users), select very large fonts for text (up to 50 pt), and choose the color of the text and background. But if you turn on the switch button for the "Keyboard Utility Bar" that is the first item in the Setting Menu, you get a "Customize Utilities" button that becomes undimmed just underneath this switch. And when you double tap that button, you get access to the list of macros that are active as extended keys in the "Keyboard Utility Bar" just above the top row of the virtual keyboard. Now, you can edit the list of active macros by double tapping the "Edit" button in the top right corner of the "Macros" window. That places buttons to activate the "delete" option to the left of each macro. I was going to delete some of the keys with label icons that VoiceOver does not announce from the list of active macros. Then I found that to the right of each macro description is a "Compose" button, and if I double tapped that button I'd get an "Edit Macro" window. The first field would be "Text to insert:" and would define a macro function. For example, the first entry is "$undo", and it's never announced by VoiceOver because the key uses an icon image. This icon is given in the next field, which is "Alias:". What is new is that I can double tap in the "Alias:" text field, use the delete key to remove the icon that VoiceOver can't announce, and then type in "Undo". If I save these changes, when I bring up the virtual keyboard with the "Keyboard Utility Bar" providing a top row of extra keys, flicking through the first key now lets VoiceOver announce the alias label I typed in, "Undo". Double tapping the "Undo" key acts just like Command-Z to undo an editing change with a Bluetooth keyboard. Similarly, the next button is "Redo", which act like Command-Shift-Z to put back an editing change. You probably don't want to keep all the macros that are activated, but there are some handy keys, especially now that you can label them with the functions you can read in the Macros menu. For example, there are arrow keys for moving left, right, up, and down through text that VoiceOver didn't announce because they were icons. Well, you can label these yourself, by deleting the present "Alias" icon, and typing in "left", "right", "up", and "down" for these macros. There are also macro keys for left a word or right a word entered as "$l-word" and "$r-word". (I've inserted a hyphen between the first letter and "word" to make this more evident, since the macro definitions pronounce this without the hyphen). Again, these keys were not announced because they use icons that VoiceOver doesn't pronounce. You can change the "Alias" labels for these keys, too, from their icons, if you want to use them. I'll just add that there are two lists in the "Macros" window, with an "Add Macro" button at the top that allows you to define your own Macro. (This is a button, even though it's not labeled as such for VoiceOver). There is a list of "Active Macros" and then a list of "Reference Macros". You can go through the list of "Reference Macros" and add any that you want to the "Active Macros" list by flicking the "cell add btn" button to the right of each entry. Some of the default macros are neat: there's a button labeled "date" that inserts today's date when you double tap that key, and a similar one for "time". There are too many option keys to easily fit at the top of the keyboard without some kind of scrolling left or right, and you have to do this with a passthrough gesture (double tap and hold, then swipe left without lifting your finger to get the other keys), so you probably just want to choose a convenient subset. Try this out, if you feel adventurous. As I said, it's currently a free app. I think that most users will want to simplify the "Keyboard Utility Bar" if they use this. Here's the link to the App Store entry: ? Nebulous Notes (usually $2.99, free for a short time) by Nuclear Elements: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nebulous-notes-for-dropbox/id375006422?mt=8 There's also a free, Lite version of this app, which is Universal binary for both iPhone and iPad: ? Nebulous Notes Lite: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nebulous-notes-lite/id392778235?mt=8 This app supports TextExpander snippets if you have TextExpander, and supposedly the latest version lets you define a key with your own TextExpander definition, too. HTH. Cheers, Esther From moopiecurran at gmail.com Thu Sep 15 16:05:17 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:05:17 -0400 Subject: iPod classic and voiceover kit support Message-ID: <824DDF0D-281D-4CF6-9541-FECD3AE5463D@gmail.com> Hi, Does the iPod classic support the voiceover kit? Thanks, Courtney From mike at busboom.at Thu Sep 15 17:21:41 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:21:41 +0200 Subject: Training Dragon Dictate without sighted assistance? Message-ID: Hello everyone, I took the plunge and recently purchased Dragon Dictate version 2.5 for the Mac, German and English. Although the German customer service person was quite knowledgeable and eager to help, she did not know whether or not it would be possible to "train" Dragon Dictate (I think that's what the software package is called) without sighted assistance. The agent said that the text the trainer was supposed to read would appear on the screen. Thus, I am wondering if I could use my BrailleNote Apex to read the text as it appeared on the screen or if I could somehow transfer each screen of text to the Apex in advance so that reading would be seamless. The sales agent assured me that the version I ordered worked with Lion. Since I don't yet have the software, I can't be more specific with my questions. However, any clues in advance might significantly cut down on the time I might need to be up and running with the product. Kindest regards and thanks in advance, Mike From sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com Thu Sep 15 17:53:13 2011 From: sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com (sad am ahmed) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:53:13 +1000 Subject: 11 inch Macbook Air or 13 inch Macbook air? Message-ID: <089479B1-3774-4830-A023-6C77BDA53966@gmail.com> Hi all. I'm looking at getting the new 11 inch Macbook Air as a second computer to my 13 inch Macbook Pro. Just wondering how the computer is to work with? and if the keyboard is the same as on my Macbook Pro? thanks and kind regards, Sadam. Sent from Sadam's iPad. From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Sep 15 19:32:04 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane trethowan) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 04:32:04 +1000 Subject: A review of Airfoil Message-ID: <4E7244A4.4020603@internode.on.net> are you one of those people who have seen the "Airfoil" software mentioned on list, you're curious about airfoil and still unsure of what the application does or maybe you're somebody you has airfoil and wish to unlock the full potential of this software? Perhaps the review at will answer many questions about the Airfoil and associated software. From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Sep 15 19:41:02 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:41:02 +0200 Subject: 11 inch Macbook Air or 13 inch Macbook air? In-Reply-To: <089479B1-3774-4830-A023-6C77BDA53966@gmail.com> References: <089479B1-3774-4830-A023-6C77BDA53966@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have the previous model of MacBook Air 11 inch, and the keyboard is the same size as on any Apple portable, apart from the Function keys, which are thinner. The keys have a very short travel which may take some getting used to. Personally, I love it. And its light weight makes it easy to carry around. Cheers, Anne On 15 Sep 2011, at 18:53, sad am ahmed wrote: > Hi all. I'm looking at getting the new 11 inch Macbook Air as a second computer to my 13 inch Macbook Pro. Just wondering how the computer is to work with? and if the keyboard is the same as on my Macbook Pro? thanks and kind regards, Sadam. > > Sent from Sadam's iPad. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Sep 15 19:42:10 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:42:10 +0200 Subject: iPod classic and voiceover kit support In-Reply-To: <824DDF0D-281D-4CF6-9541-FECD3AE5463D@gmail.com> References: <824DDF0D-281D-4CF6-9541-FECD3AE5463D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9736986C-170F-4FE2-9888-93B5EA0BCFE8@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Courtney, The iPod Classic is the only one without VoiceOver. Cheers, Anne From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Sep 15 19:44:18 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:44:18 +0200 Subject: Training Dragon Dictate without sighted assistance? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Mike, As you know, I don't use Dragon Dictate, but I'm fairly sure that I've heard people say that they used a headset while training it. That way, they could hear what was on the screen without the application "hearing" it, too. Cheers, Anne On 15 Sep 2011, at 18:21, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I took the plunge and recently purchased Dragon Dictate version 2.5 for the Mac, German and English. Although the German customer service person was quite knowledgeable and eager to help, she did not know whether or not it would be possible to "train" Dragon Dictate (I think that's what the software package is called) without sighted assistance. > > The agent said that the text the trainer was supposed to read would appear on the screen. Thus, I am wondering if I could use my BrailleNote Apex to read the text as it appeared on the screen or if I could somehow transfer each screen of text to the Apex in advance so that reading would be seamless. The sales agent assured me that the version I ordered worked with Lion. > > Since I don't yet have the software, I can't be more specific with my questions. However, any clues in advance might significantly cut down on the time I might need to be up and running with the product. > > Kindest regards and thanks in advance, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Sep 15 19:44:38 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:44:38 +0100 Subject: A review of Airfoil In-Reply-To: <4E7244A4.4020603@internode.on.net> References: <4E7244A4.4020603@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <0DAF0821-7BCF-4905-842D-6B685AE18171@computing.dcu.ie> Brings up an interesting question. I presume one needs an airport express or apple tv plugged into a HIFI amp to use airfoil through speakers? D?nal On 15 Sep 2011, at 19:32, Dane trethowan wrote: > are you one of those people who have seen the "Airfoil" software mentioned on list, you're curious about airfoil and still unsure of what the application does or maybe you're somebody you has airfoil and wish to unlock the full potential of this software? Perhaps the review at will answer many questions about the Airfoil and associated software. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From grtdane at internode.on.net Thu Sep 15 20:00:23 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane trethowan) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 05:00:23 +1000 Subject: A review of Airfoil In-Reply-To: <0DAF0821-7BCF-4905-842D-6B685AE18171@computing.dcu.ie> References: <4E7244A4.4020603@internode.on.net> <0DAF0821-7BCF-4905-842D-6B685AE18171@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <4E724B47.7000909@internode.on.net> No, if you have an old PC etc lying around the house you could use that connected to a pair of speakers, the review deals with this sort of thing. On 16/09/2011 4:44 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Brings up an interesting question. I presume one needs an airport express or apple tv plugged into a HIFI amp to use airfoil through speakers? > > D?nal > On 15 Sep 2011, at 19:32, Dane trethowan wrote: > >> are you one of those people who have seen the "Airfoil" software mentioned on list, you're curious about airfoil and still unsure of what the application does or maybe you're somebody you has airfoil and wish to unlock the full potential of this software? Perhaps the review at will answer many questions about the Airfoil and associated software. >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Sep 15 20:09:39 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:09:39 +0100 Subject: A review of Airfoil In-Reply-To: <4E724B47.7000909@internode.on.net> References: <4E7244A4.4020603@internode.on.net> <0DAF0821-7BCF-4905-842D-6B685AE18171@computing.dcu.ie> <4E724B47.7000909@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <83CF7025-D972-4104-9DCA-16F9FB735420@computing.dcu.ie> yes but my point is that my living room is already cluttered with stuff! I'll be shot if I introduce an old PC as well... On 15 Sep 2011, at 20:00, Dane trethowan wrote: > No, if you have an old PC etc lying around the house you could use that connected to a pair of speakers, the review deals with this sort of thing. > > > > On 16/09/2011 4:44 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> Brings up an interesting question. I presume one needs an airport express or apple tv plugged into a HIFI amp to use airfoil through speakers? >> >> D?nal >> On 15 Sep 2011, at 19:32, Dane trethowan wrote: >> >>> are you one of those people who have seen the "Airfoil" software mentioned on list, you're curious about airfoil and still unsure of what the application does or maybe you're somebody you has airfoil and wish to unlock the full potential of this software? Perhaps the review at will answer many questions about the Airfoil and associated software. >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Thu Sep 15 20:45:05 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:45:05 -0300 Subject: VMware Fusion 4 Message-ID: <3144CBF097A24400AC65AB2AD6D63AAA@MainComputer> Hi Folks: VMware Fusion 4 has been released. Has anyone had any experience with the program? Apparently, there is no special discount for those who wish to upgrade. Cheers. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6466 (20110915) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From zkline at speedpost.net Thu Sep 15 20:52:54 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:52:54 -0700 Subject: VMware Fusion 4 In-Reply-To: <3144CBF097A24400AC65AB2AD6D63AAA@MainComputer> References: <3144CBF097A24400AC65AB2AD6D63AAA@MainComputer> Message-ID: <8A190813-AB12-4B4A-BE64-4F31CE0C63B9@speedpost.net> Hi Jim, Actually, there is a discount for all customers, from $79 USD to $49, until the end of the year. I gather it's even lower for students, though haven't personally confirmed this myself. That being said, I have no experience with the program as of yet. Best, Zack. On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > VMware Fusion 4 has been released. Has anyone had any experience with the program? Apparently, there is no special discount for those who wish to upgrade. > > Cheers. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6466 (20110915) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Thu Sep 15 21:49:02 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:49:02 -0400 Subject: VMware Fusion 4 In-Reply-To: <8A190813-AB12-4B4A-BE64-4F31CE0C63B9@speedpost.net> References: <3144CBF097A24400AC65AB2AD6D63AAA@MainComputer> <8A190813-AB12-4B4A-BE64-4F31CE0C63B9@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <0LRL00FEF0HT1O40@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Folks! Question is: Can one install VmWare Fusion 4 over Version 3? Matthew Chao At 03:52 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote: >Hi Jim, >Actually, there is a discount for all customers, from $79 USD to >$49, until the end of the year. I gather it's even lower for >students, though haven't personally confirmed this myself. That >being said, I have no experience with the program as of yet. >Best, >Zack. >On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > > > Hi Folks: > > > > VMware Fusion 4 has been released. Has anyone had any experience > with the program? Apparently, there is no special discount for > those who wish to upgrade. > > > > Cheers. > > > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the > Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of > virus signature database 6466 (20110915) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > > >__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >signature database 6466 (20110915) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com From venables134 at btinternet.com Thu Sep 15 21:52:14 2011 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:52:14 +0100 Subject: iPod classic and voiceover kit support In-Reply-To: <9736986C-170F-4FE2-9888-93B5EA0BCFE8@anarchie.org.uk> References: <824DDF0D-281D-4CF6-9541-FECD3AE5463D@gmail.com> <9736986C-170F-4FE2-9888-93B5EA0BCFE8@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <12766C7AE6284416B1BE3C9021B40622@DanielPC> Hi Anne and Courtney just cureious but do you two know that if Apple sells the Ipod Classic still? I ask this because a few years ago I got one for Christmas I don't know which Gen it was but it has the capacity of 80GB. Anyway this one didn't have voiceover and since the ipod Nano 4th Gen came out I haven't thought more about it but I know that it has not yet have voiceover support. Which leads me to my question again Since then I don't know what's going on in the ipod classic realm and would just like to know do Apple even sell it anymore? Thanks Daniel -------------------------------------------------- From: "Anne Robertson" Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:42 PM To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Re: iPod classic and voiceover kit support > Hello Courtney, > > The iPod Classic is the only one without VoiceOver. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Fri Sep 16 01:13:03 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:13:03 -0500 Subject: VMware Fusion 4 In-Reply-To: <3144CBF097A24400AC65AB2AD6D63AAA@MainComputer> References: <3144CBF097A24400AC65AB2AD6D63AAA@MainComputer> Message-ID: <3D5A8C85-EE48-4F91-99B2-8403DEE5DFB6@charter.net> Yes, it works well, there is probably no discount for upgrades because the purchase price is actually discounted until the end of the year I think. On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > VMware Fusion 4 has been released. Has anyone had any experience with the program? Apparently, there is no special discount for those who wish to upgrade. > > Cheers. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6466 (20110915) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Fri Sep 16 01:13:56 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:13:56 -0500 Subject: VMware Fusion 4 References: <3144CBF097A24400AC65AB2AD6D63AAA@MainComputer> <3D5A8C85-EE48-4F91-99B2-8403DEE5DFB6@charter.net> Message-ID: her. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Arrigo" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:13 PM Subject: Re: VMware Fusion 4 > Yes, it works well, there is probably no discount for upgrades because the > purchase price is actually discounted until the end of the year I think. > On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> VMware Fusion 4 has been released. Has anyone had any experience with >> the program? Apparently, there is no special discount for those who wish >> to upgrade. >> >> Cheers. >> >> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy >> Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 6466 (20110915) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Fri Sep 16 05:49:51 2011 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 05:49:51 +0100 Subject: transactions in i-bank Message-ID: <4e72d464.9010e30a.1f46.7f0e@mx.google.com> i have just imported my transactions in i-bank from my bank's website which seems like it is supported even though it is a uk bank. however the total amount appears to be correct and i see transaction dates but for some reason i can't seem to view any actual transaction details. i got a notification saying that my export had been successful so why can't i see the information other than the date and the name of my account? From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Fri Sep 16 07:42:13 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:42:13 +1000 Subject: Important information, please read In-Reply-To: <82C6A514-15B0-4516-864F-26A62F46D326@q.com> References: <666F5279-F010-4E19-8A26-6654F3216FA2@anarchie.org.uk><721F804A-2D38-469B-9AF1-B69F7CD93321@virginmedia.com><007d01cc7207$4c5506c0$e4ff1440$@com> <0E58932B-71BF-4CCE-938F-507F9B4B6DB4@btinternet.com> <82C6A514-15B0-4516-864F-26A62F46D326@q.com> Message-ID: <8CAEE0E3-C6F1-4ADF-864B-7EAF0BB4C5DF@bluebottle.com> hi lynn and gorden i am behind in my mail to as i have been busy playing with niece but i have emailed you off list sending my best wishes to gorden to get well soon and my thaughts and prayers are of you both as you both need the strength to get through this awefll time hugs to both of you and i hope gorden feels better and i miss both of you deeply take care every one from krystal watson On 15/09/2011, at 4:21 AM, Desi Noller wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > Circumstances have kept me a little bit behind with my e-mail, but I too want to extend my best wishes for a speedy recovery for Gordon! Please know that my thoughts and prayers are with you both! > > > Desi > > > > On Sep 14, 2011, at 6:00 AM, David Griffith wrote: > >> >> David Griffith >> d.griffith at btinternet.com >> I too, although a new member of this list, would like to extend my thoughts at what must be a very disturbing tiring and difficult time. I hope that there are easier times ahead. >> >> >> Regards >> >> David Griffith >> >> On 14 Sep 2011, at 09:21, Daniel McGee wrote: >> >>> Hi Lynn my thoughts are with you and Gordon. I really hope he gets better soon and is back with us! >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Mike Arrigo" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:23 AM >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Subject: Re: Important information, please read >>> >>>> I send my thoughts and prayers as well, hope everything is ok. >>>> On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:21 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wish them both the very best. >>>>> >>>>> Kristeen >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Julie Vaughan >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:07 AM >>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Re: Important information, please read >>>>> >>>>> send our best wishes to them >>>>> On 13 Sep 2011, at 10:30, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> At the end of last week, Gordon had a bad accident which put him in >>>>> hospital. His situation is serious which is why Lynne is spending a lot of >>>>> time at the hospital with him, and is not often available to deal with >>>>> support requests. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please have patience if you have a problem that needs the help of Support. >>>>>> >>>>>> For any other queries, please contact either me or James Austin. My e-mail >>>>> is: >>>>>> anne at anarchie.org.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> James's e-mail is: >>>>>> james.austin at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your understanding. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anne >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>> the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From billd at insightbb.com Fri Sep 16 12:21:08 2011 From: billd at insightbb.com (Bill Deatherage) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:21:08 -0400 Subject: apple tv Message-ID: Hello, I have the Imac and the I phone. Now I am interested in the apple TV. I have a few questions? First of all, can you watch other programs besides movies? for example, some of the old TV shows. Second, does it have to be hooked to the television and a computer or can you hook it directly into the internet. I heard you can also listen to I tunes on it. if you have some files on I tunes I have downloaded them on my Iphone is there a way you can transfer them to the ITV. I would also, like to know what benefits people have found and what issues they have encountered? Thank you in advance. Bill Deatherage From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Fri Sep 16 15:31:34 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:31:34 -0400 Subject: apple tv References: Message-ID: <05E458E2CD524FF394DAC51CD8341C6A@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Bill, The Apple TV has both wi-fi and an eathernet port, hence you probably would not attach it to your iMac. Others who actually have the device may be able to assist further but I suspect that since it will play your content on iTunes, if you add old tv shows to your collection you can play them using the Apple tv. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Deatherage To: mac-access at mac-access.net Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 7:21 AM Subject: apple tv Hello, I have the Imac and the I phone. Now I am interested in the apple TV. I have a few questions? First of all, can you watch other programs besides movies? for example, some of the old TV shows. Second, does it have to be hooked to the television and a computer or can you hook it directly into the internet. I heard you can also listen to I tunes on it. if you have some files on I tunes I have downloaded them on my Iphone is there a way you can transfer them to the ITV. I would also, like to know what benefits people have found and what issues they have encountered? Thank you in advance. Bill Deatherage <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From support at mac-access.net Fri Sep 16 19:22:51 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:22:51 +0100 Subject: Gordon is home for the weekend, and we have a welcome surprise! Message-ID: <5F1450B1-03A8-4102-BDCA-76B1F5D6CA6A@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Gordon has been discharged from hospital for the weekend. Mor about that off list if anybody is interested. Manwhile, I have some more good news! The brand new Take Control of Spotlight on your Mac is now available via Mac Access for just ?2.41 if anybody is interested. Please contact the support address to buy this book. Lynne, very happy tonight. ------------------------------ Gordon & Lynne Smith, ------------------------------ From support at mac-access.net Fri Sep 16 20:07:03 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:07:03 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Spotlight Message-ID: Hello everybody; especially our Take Control fans If you've ever misplaced a file on your Mac and despaired of locating it again, we have a find for you: Sharon Zardetto's latest title, "Take Control of Spotlight for Finding Anything on Your Mac." The 158-page ebook is now available for just ?2.41 GBP from Mac Access Dot Net. Join Sharon as she explores the hidden depths of Spotlight searching, one of Mac OS X's most powerful yet least explained features. No matter how carefully you organise files and folders on your Mac, it's easy to lose important items. With Sharon's help, you can aim Apple's Spotlight quickly and precisely, and stop rummaging around in the darkness of your disk. After Sharon explains how Spotlight indexes your data and the "grammar" behind Spotlight searches, you'll examine the many ways you can start Spotlight searches: the magnifying glass in the menu bar, the search field in Finder windows or the Open and Save dialogs, a keyboard shortcut, a contextual menu, or customized and saved searches you've made for yourself. Then it's on to learning how to find exactly what you're looking for using keyword searches, multiple-criteria searches, Boolean searches, and more. And here's where you'll learn the most valuable lesson about Spotlight, which Apple has never fully explained, which is how to search directly using Spotlight's internal search language, making even complex searches quick and easy. Remember, searches aren't just about finding lost files, they're also useful for selecting a set of matching files to work on. For instance, we've used Spotlight to identify which photos in a folder are small thumbnails or which of our ebooks lack a certain phrase. You can even do things like find every GarageBand song in the key of E-flat. You'll learn these search-related techniques: * Improve search accuracy by limiting Spotlight to searching just where you want. * Reduce result clutter by choosing which categories should appear in the Spotlight menu. * Learn what to do when the Spotlight menu doesn't list an item that it should be able to find. * Use criteria bars (and even the elusive Boolean bars!) to create complex search queries. * Bypass criteria bars by typing complex, powerful queries in any Spotlight search field. * Build Boolean searches with AND, OR, and NOT to narrow your search results precisely. In addition, you'll find out how to make your files even easier to find with these techniques: * Customise a file's metadata. * Employ free third-party utilities to give your files useful, searchable tags. * Set up sophisticated smart folders that provide dynamic file organization. In these days of terabyte drives, your Mac has enormous storage capacity, and you may have many thousands of files squirreled away (we don't even want to admit to how many hundreds of thousands of files are filling up our disks!). But with the Spotlight expertise you'll gain from this ebook, you'll be able to retrieve anything on your Mac, no matter how deeply it's buried or how specific you need to make your search. Although there's something in this ebook for all Mac users, including novices and power users, we were particularly pleased to learn more about typing complex search queries, making us faster and more fluid with our Macs than ever before! So, whether you've hardly realized that there's a fancy search engine in your Mac or you know it's there but have yet to harness its full power, get started with "Take Control of Spotlight for Finding Anything on Your Mac" today. If you are interested, we can expedite your orders right away. Lynne From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 16 20:11:18 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:11:18 +0100 Subject: iPod classic and voiceover kit support In-Reply-To: <824DDF0D-281D-4CF6-9541-FECD3AE5463D@gmail.com> References: <824DDF0D-281D-4CF6-9541-FECD3AE5463D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Courtney I don't know if there is a modern version but we have an iPod Classic with a 160GB drive. It doesn't support VO so Gordon uses a Cobolt System iPod speech enabling device. It isn't perfect but it works and will work with any iOS device that doesn't have VO. Lynne On 15 Sep 2011, at 16:05, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, Does the iPod classic support the voiceover kit? Thanks, Courtney <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Sep 16 20:18:53 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:18:53 +0100 Subject: VMware Fusion 4 In-Reply-To: <3144CBF097A24400AC65AB2AD6D63AAA@MainComputer> References: <3144CBF097A24400AC65AB2AD6D63AAA@MainComputer> Message-ID: Hello Jim I am trying it now so will let you know. Lynne On 15 Sep 2011, at 20:45, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hi Folks: VMware Fusion 4 has been released. Has anyone had any experience with the program? Apparently, there is no special discount for those who wish to upgrade. Cheers. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6466 (20110915) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Sep 16 20:27:44 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:27:44 -0300 Subject: VMware Fusion 4 In-Reply-To: References: <3144CBF097A24400AC65AB2AD6D63AAA@MainComputer> Message-ID: <3DE69482629040FFB6208EB9D07349CA@MainComputer> Hey Lynne: Thanks all over the place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 4:18 PM Subject: Re: VMware Fusion 4 > Hello Jim > > I am trying it now so will let you know. > > Lynne > > On 15 Sep 2011, at 20:45, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > > Hi Folks: > > VMware Fusion 4 has been released. Has anyone had any experience with the > program? Apparently, there is no special discount for those who wish to > upgrade. > > Cheers. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, > in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6466 (20110915) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6469 (20110916) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6469 (20110916) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com Fri Sep 16 22:15:34 2011 From: julie.vaughan1 at virginmedia.com (Julie Vaughan) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:15:34 +0100 Subject: Gordon is home for the weekend, and we have a welcome surprise! In-Reply-To: <5F1450B1-03A8-4102-BDCA-76B1F5D6CA6A@mac-access.net> References: <5F1450B1-03A8-4102-BDCA-76B1F5D6CA6A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3CD80110-450B-4A9A-B188-E08E478380D2@virginmedia.com> lynn glad to hear this best wishes jules x On 16 Sep 2011, at 19:22, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Gordon has been discharged from hospital for the weekend. Mor about that off list if anybody is interested. Manwhile, I have some more good news! The brand new Take Control of Spotlight on your Mac is now available via Mac Access for just ?2.41 if anybody is interested. > > Please contact the support address to buy this book. > > Lynne, very happy tonight. > > ------------------------------ > > Gordon & Lynne Smith, > > ------------------------------ > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Sep 16 22:50:38 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:50:38 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 Message-ID: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I'm definitely not going to talk about Windows. But I'll tell you this; Fusion 4.01 is just a dream machine! It's fast, ass-kickingly fast! It's accessible, more so than v3 in some ways. Just thought you'd like to know. Lynne From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Sep 16 22:58:08 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:58:08 -0300 Subject: Take Control of Spotlight Message-ID: <8E6A6F02AB254F12819393C451DF13CE@MainComputer> Hey Folks: I no that this sounds like a record but it really was a quick, easy and painless process to purchase this book. AwesomenessCoolness. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Sep 16 23:12:22 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:12:22 +0100 Subject: VMware Fusion 4 In-Reply-To: <0LRL00FEF0HT1O40@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> References: <3144CBF097A24400AC65AB2AD6D63AAA@MainComputer> <8A190813-AB12-4B4A-BE64-4F31CE0C63B9@speedpost.net> <0LRL00FEF0HT1O40@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Hello Matthew Yes, you certainly can. Lynne On 15 Sep 2011, at 21:49, Matthew Chao wrote: Hi, Folks! Question is: Can one install VmWare Fusion 4 over Version 3? From lynne at mac-access.net Fri Sep 16 23:17:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:17:32 +0100 Subject: apple tv In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EF4F353-748B-4780-9883-5EB58329DED6@mac-access.net> Bill It downloads directly from the Internet and yes, you can watch any TV shows in your iTunes library. You can also listen to Internet radio and Podcasts. Incidentally, ACB Radio Main Stream is also available. Lynne On 16 Sep 2011, at 12:21, Bill Deatherage wrote: Hello, I have the Imac and the I phone. Now I am interested in the apple TV. I have a few questions? First of all, can you watch other programs besides movies? for example, some of the old TV shows. Second, does it have to be hooked to the television and a computer or can you hook it directly into the internet. I heard you can also listen to I tunes on it. if you have some files on I tunes I have downloaded them on my Iphone is there a way you can transfer them to the ITV. I would also, like to know what benefits people have found and what issues they have encountered? Thank you in advance. Bill Deatherage <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 00:47:31 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:47:31 -0400 Subject: iPod classic and voiceover kit support In-Reply-To: References: <824DDF0D-281D-4CF6-9541-FECD3AE5463D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4259CC53-DD06-4AFB-A071-96C2D9B11F56@gmail.com> Hi, Do they sell those iPod speech enabling devices in the U.S. On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello Courtney > > I don't know if there is a modern version but we have an iPod Classic with a 160GB drive. It doesn't support VO so Gordon uses a Cobolt System iPod speech enabling device. It isn't perfect but it works and will work with any iOS device that doesn't have VO. > > Lynne > > On 15 Sep 2011, at 16:05, Courtney Curran wrote: > > Hi, > Does the iPod classic support the voiceover kit? > Thanks, > Courtney > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Sep 17 00:54:08 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:54:08 -0500 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net> I wonder if it's now as fast as parallels. I remember you said that you thought parallels was faster than fusion, they have just released version 7, and it's just as inaccessible as previous versions, it's obvious that company has no interest in fixing this, but I wonder if their speeds are equal now. On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I'm definitely not going to talk about Windows. But I'll tell you this; Fusion 4.01 is just a dream machine! It's fast, ass-kickingly fast! It's accessible, more so than v3 in some ways. > > Just thought you'd like to know. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From david.mclean at cox.net Sat Sep 17 01:47:00 2011 From: david.mclean at cox.net (David McLean) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:47:00 -0400 Subject: iPod classic and voiceover kit support In-Reply-To: <4259CC53-DD06-4AFB-A071-96C2D9B11F56@gmail.com> References: <824DDF0D-281D-4CF6-9541-FECD3AE5463D@gmail.com> <4259CC53-DD06-4AFB-A071-96C2D9B11F56@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've bought things for Cobolt.uk so while I don't know of a Us distributor I know you can buy directly from them if they still sell it. I was considering it myself a few years ago but had no idea whether it worked or not. On Sep 16, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Do they sell those iPod speech enabling devices in the U.S. > On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hello Courtney >> >> I don't know if there is a modern version but we have an iPod Classic with a 160GB drive. It doesn't support VO so Gordon uses a Cobolt System iPod speech enabling device. It isn't perfect but it works and will work with any iOS device that doesn't have VO. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 15 Sep 2011, at 16:05, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Does the iPod classic support the voiceover kit? >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sat Sep 17 01:51:21 2011 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:51:21 +1000 Subject: Gordon is home for the weekend, and we have a welcome surprise! In-Reply-To: <5F1450B1-03A8-4102-BDCA-76B1F5D6CA6A@mac-access.net> References: <5F1450B1-03A8-4102-BDCA-76B1F5D6CA6A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9086D052-106F-403D-9D27-8766C17EFE97@bluebottle.com> i am glad to here he is home for weekend hugs smiles On 17/09/2011, at 4:22 AM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Gordon has been discharged from hospital for the weekend. Mor about that off list if anybody is interested. Manwhile, I have some more good news! The brand new Take Control of Spotlight on your Mac is now available via Mac Access for just ?2.41 if anybody is interested. > > Please contact the support address to buy this book. > > Lynne, very happy tonight. > > ------------------------------ > > Gordon & Lynne Smith, > > ------------------------------ > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access...net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 07:31:52 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:31:52 +0100 Subject: daisy books Message-ID: <3E78C888-DD97-4D55-B7CB-B5C1048EFB46@gmail.com> hi all does easy software exist to read a bunch of mp3 files and then make them in to a daisy format? HOw do we tell software though which files we want at which levels? From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 09:33:45 2011 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:33:45 +0200 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne. Yes it is a dream. Be aware that the snapshot menu, so you can roll back to previous versions is not accessible any more. A little thing, that is a little of topic. I think it would be best to install windows again, not just move it, I did that with no greater success. But we can not discuss that issue here, I only thought I would let you know. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 16, 2011 kl. 11:50 PM skrev Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith: > Hello everybody > > I'm definitely not going to talk about Windows. But I'll tell you this; Fusion 4.01 is just a dream machine! It's fast, ass-kickingly fast! It's accessible, more so than v3 in some ways. > > Just thought you'd like to know. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 10:06:05 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:06:05 +0100 Subject: daisy books In-Reply-To: <3E78C888-DD97-4D55-B7CB-B5C1048EFB46@gmail.com> References: <3E78C888-DD97-4D55-B7CB-B5C1048EFB46@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Will, I'm sure that others will be able to provide further help, but for starters, why don't you try this resources link from The Association For The Blind Of Western Australia. Some of the links refer to 10.4 and 10.5, but hopefully, the apps themselves have been updated, even if not reflected by the site. The link is: http://www.guidedogswa.com.au/how-we-can-help-you/technology-and-aids/downloadable-resources/ TC:) James On 17 Sep 2011, at 07:31, william lomas wrote: > hi all > > > does easy software exist to read a bunch of mp3 files and then make them in to a daisy format? > HOw do we tell software though which files we want at which levels? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 10:37:34 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:37:34 +0100 Subject: daisy books In-Reply-To: References: <3E78C888-DD97-4D55-B7CB-B5C1048EFB46@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3944AA11-A39D-4644-87E2-C0A3E1FE4918@gmail.com> cheers but think they for reading not creating On Sep 17, 2011, at 10:06 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Will, > > I'm sure that others will be able to provide further help, but for starters, why don't you try this resources link from The Association For The Blind Of Western Australia. Some of the links refer to 10.4 and 10.5, but hopefully, the apps themselves have been updated, even if not reflected by the site. The link is: http://www.guidedogswa.com.au/how-we-can-help-you/technology-and-aids/downloadable-resources/ > > TC:) > James > > > On 17 Sep 2011, at 07:31, william lomas wrote: > >> hi all >> >> >> does easy software exist to read a bunch of mp3 files and then make them in to a daisy format? >> HOw do we tell software though which files we want at which levels? >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 12:32:36 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:32:36 +0100 Subject: daisy books In-Reply-To: <3944AA11-A39D-4644-87E2-C0A3E1FE4918@gmail.com> References: <3E78C888-DD97-4D55-B7CB-B5C1048EFB46@gmail.com> <3944AA11-A39D-4644-87E2-C0A3E1FE4918@gmail.com> Message-ID: <112802EF-200C-4C2D-91D6-BD74F661EE82@mac-access.net> Ah yes sorry you're right. There is something called Daisy Pipeline which can create DAISY books, but it is Terminal based. If you're interested let me know and I'll try to dig it out with instructions. TC :) james On 17 Sep 2011, at 10:37, william lomas wrote: > cheers but think they for reading not creating > > On Sep 17, 2011, at 10:06 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Will, >> >> I'm sure that others will be able to provide further help, but for starters, why don't you try this resources link from The Association For The Blind Of Western Australia. Some of the links refer to 10.4 and 10.5, but hopefully, the apps themselves have been updated, even if not reflected by the site. The link is: http://www.guidedogswa.com.au/how-we-can-help-you/technology-and-aids/downloadable-resources/ >> >> TC:) >> James >> >> >> On 17 Sep 2011, at 07:31, william lomas wrote: >> >>> hi all >>> >>> >>> does easy software exist to read a bunch of mp3 files and then make them in to a daisy format? >>> HOw do we tell software though which files we want at which levels? >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krbarry at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 12:33:10 2011 From: krbarry at gmail.com (Kevin Barry) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:33:10 -0400 Subject: bringing back to factory new? Message-ID: <4e748582.cd22340a.418f.44d4@mx.google.com> Can anyone tell me how to bring back a Mac Book Pro to the state it was in when new? It's running Snow Leopard and, of course, I have the factory DVDs. Thanks. Kevin From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sat Sep 17 13:00:08 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Thejazzden) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:00:08 +0100 Subject: Which JawBone model in UK please? Message-ID: <3227F196-AAC2-46CA-927A-0ED344E259E0@thejazzden.org.uk> Hi Listers I see various models for the JawBone speakers on sale here in the UK. I assume the latest one JBE06 which is also suitable for the Ipad is correct - selling for ?156 from Comet and elsewhere Can someone please confirm off list? Just to explain, Lynne's review which contained the model and supplier appears to be unavailable. Thanks. Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone From mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com Sat Sep 17 13:45:50 2011 From: mrodrigues81 at hotmail.com (Marcos Rodrigues) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:45:50 -0300 Subject: The take control books Message-ID: Hi friends: Could someone tell me a litle more about the take control books? I am interested in purchasing some of these books but don't know how to do it. Regards. From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 13:52:09 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:52:09 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> <41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net> Message-ID: <029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> Hello Mike In my opinion it is now faster than Parallels. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 00:54, Mike Arrigo wrote: I wonder if it's now as fast as parallels. I remember you said that you thought parallels was faster than fusion, they have just released version 7, and it's just as inaccessible as previous versions, it's obvious that company has no interest in fixing this, but I wonder if their speeds are equal now. On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > I'm definitely not going to talk about Windows. But I'll tell you this; Fusion 4.01 is just a dream machine! It's fast, ass-kickingly fast! It's accessible, more so than v3 in some ways. > > Just thought you'd like to know. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 13:54:18 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:54:18 +0100 Subject: Mac daisy books In-Reply-To: <3E78C888-DD97-4D55-B7CB-B5C1048EFB46@gmail.com> References: <3E78C888-DD97-4D55-B7CB-B5C1048EFB46@gmail.com> Message-ID: <999551C5-74C7-4E86-A01D-00E2468BEEE6@mac-access.net> William The navigation is the decision of the publisher not the reader. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 07:31, william lomas wrote: hi all does easy software exist to read a bunch of mp3 files and then make them in to a daisy format? HOw do we tell software though which files we want at which levels? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 13:55:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:55:32 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Annie You can discuss the configuration of the VM, it's only Windows itself you cannot discuss. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 09:33, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi Lynne. Yes it is a dream. Be aware that the snapshot menu, so you can roll back to previous versions is not accessible any more. A little thing, that is a little of topic. I think it would be best to install windows again, not just move it, I did that with no greater success. But we can not discuss that issue here, I only thought I would let you know. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 16, 2011 kl. 11:50 PM skrev Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith: > Hello everybody > > I'm definitely not going to talk about Windows. But I'll tell you this; Fusion 4.01 is just a dream machine! It's fast, ass-kickingly fast! It's accessible, more so than v3 in some ways. > > Just thought you'd like to know. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 14:00:38 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:00:38 +0100 Subject: Which JawBone model in UK please? In-Reply-To: <3227F196-AAC2-46CA-927A-0ED344E259E0@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <3227F196-AAC2-46CA-927A-0ED344E259E0@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <6C12F3CF-D567-4EF8-AF1F-7109D706AAAF@mac-access.net> Dennis Read my review on Mac Access website. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 13:00, Thejazzden wrote: Hi Listers I see various models for the JawBone speakers on sale here in the UK. I assume the latest one JBE06 which is also suitable for the Ipad is correct - selling for ?156 from Comet and elsewhere Can someone please confirm off list? Just to explain, Lynne's review which contained the model and supplier appears to be unavailable. Thanks. Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sat Sep 17 14:40:15 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Thejazzden) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:40:15 +0100 Subject: Which JawBone model in UK please? In-Reply-To: <6C12F3CF-D567-4EF8-AF1F-7109D706AAAF@mac-access.net> References: <3227F196-AAC2-46CA-927A-0ED344E259E0@thejazzden.org.uk> <6C12F3CF-D567-4EF8-AF1F-7109D706AAAF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <740F8190-E319-4567-8227-2DBB32FD9A33@thejazzden.org.uk> Hi Lynne That was the whole point of my msg - the link to the review is broken, or at least appears not to work for me. Does the model number JBE06 seem right - that's all I need to know really? Dennis. A Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone On 17 Sep 2011, at 14:00, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" wrote: > Dennis > > Read my review on Mac Access website. > > > Lynne > > On 17 Sep 2011, at 13:00, Thejazzden wrote: > > Hi Listers > I see various models for the JawBone speakers on sale here in the UK. I assume the latest one JBE06 which is also suitable for the Ipad is correct - selling for ?156 from Comet and elsewhere > Can someone please confirm off list? Just to explain, Lynne's review which contained the model and supplier appears to be unavailable. > > Thanks. > > > Dennis Freedman > The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk > Sent from my iPhone > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Sep 17 14:47:11 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:47:11 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> <41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net> <029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> Parallels is much faster when it comes to 3D graphics and gaming. Parallels will probably always be faster as it does not do virtualisation in the same way Fusion does, it actually uses the Macs hardware directly, hence the faster graphics performance. As most of us blind folks are not graphic intensive gamers it is not a major issue. On 17 Sep 2011, at 13:52, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Mike > > In my opinion it is now faster than Parallels. > > Lynne > > On 17 Sep 2011, at 00:54, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > I wonder if it's now as fast as parallels. I remember you said that you thought parallels was faster than fusion, they have just released version 7, and it's just as inaccessible as previous versions, it's obvious that company has no interest in fixing this, but I wonder if their speeds are equal now. > On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> I'm definitely not going to talk about Windows. But I'll tell you this; Fusion 4.01 is just a dream machine! It's fast, ass-kickingly fast! It's accessible, more so than v3 in some ways. >> >> Just thought you'd like to know. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 15:06:04 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:06:04 +0100 Subject: Mac daisy books In-Reply-To: <999551C5-74C7-4E86-A01D-00E2468BEEE6@mac-access.net> References: <3E78C888-DD97-4D55-B7CB-B5C1048EFB46@gmail.com> <999551C5-74C7-4E86-A01D-00E2468BEEE6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8D999B7A-BD12-4843-9FB5-CFB041228328@gmail.com> no I mean, if one wants to record something and put it in to their own daisy book for use On Sep 17, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > William > > The navigation is the decision of the publisher not the reader. > > Lynne > > On 17 Sep 2011, at 07:31, william lomas wrote: > > hi all > > > does easy software exist to read a bunch of mp3 files and then make them in to a daisy format? > HOw do we tell software though which files we want at which levels? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Sep 17 17:07:14 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:07:14 -0500 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5A9DA0C1-7C80-4C3D-9182-B860614F2145@charter.net> another interesting issue with version 4, not a big deal, but, in the settings, when you click help on most screens, it says the topic is not yet available. I never used the snap shots feature, so that's no big loss for me since I back up my virtual machine to an external hard drive. On Sep 17, 2011, at 3:33 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Lynne. > > Yes it is a dream. Be aware that the snapshot menu, so you can roll back to previous versions is not accessible any more. > > A little thing, that is a little of topic. I think it would be best to install windows again, not just move it, I did that with no greater success. But we can not discuss that issue here, I only thought I would let you know. > > Best regards Annie. > Den Sep 16, 2011 kl. 11:50 PM skrev Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith: > >> Hello everybody >> >> I'm definitely not going to talk about Windows. But I'll tell you this; Fusion 4.01 is just a dream machine! It's fast, ass-kickingly fast! It's accessible, more so than v3 in some ways. >> >> Just thought you'd like to know. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Sep 17 17:09:37 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:09:37 -0500 Subject: bringing back to factory new? In-Reply-To: <4e748582.cd22340a.418f.44d4@mx.google.com> References: <4e748582.cd22340a.418f.44d4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I would erase the hard drive, then reinstall snow leppard, once it restarts, see if you can exit the set up, if not, just power it off and the next time it's started, it should start the set up assistant for whoever uses it. On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to bring back a Mac Book Pro to the state it was in when new? > It's running Snow Leopard and, of course, I have the factory DVDs. > Thanks. > Kevin > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 18:20:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:20:24 +0100 Subject: The take control books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9330EC9D-A82A-4352-8732-7506C9A5800A@mac-access.net> Hello To buy the books, contact support at mac-access.net and we will talk you through the process. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 13:45, Marcos Rodrigues wrote: Hi friends: Could someone tell me a litle more about the take control books? I am interested in purchasing some of these books but don't know how to do it. Regards. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 18:25:36 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:25:36 +0100 Subject: Which JawBone model in UK please? In-Reply-To: <740F8190-E319-4567-8227-2DBB32FD9A33@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <3227F196-AAC2-46CA-927A-0ED344E259E0@thejazzden.org.uk> <6C12F3CF-D567-4EF8-AF1F-7109D706AAAF@mac-access.net> <740F8190-E319-4567-8227-2DBB32FD9A33@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <1F0825EF-EDB2-446E-80F2-6F3EE4EB694C@mac-access.net> Hello Dennis Are you inserting the "?" in the URL? I just tried it an it works?. I can't imagine why it wouldn't work. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 14:40, Thejazzden wrote: Hi Lynne That was the whole point of my msg - the link to the review is broken, or at least appears not to work for me. Does the model number JBE06 seem right - that's all I need to know really? Dennis. A Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone On 17 Sep 2011, at 14:00, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" wrote: > Dennis > > Read my review on Mac Access website. > > > Lynne > > On 17 Sep 2011, at 13:00, Thejazzden wrote: > > Hi Listers > I see various models for the JawBone speakers on sale here in the UK. I assume the latest one JBE06 which is also suitable for the Ipad is correct - selling for ?156 from Comet and elsewhere > Can someone please confirm off list? Just to explain, Lynne's review which contained the model and supplier appears to be unavailable. > > Thanks. > > > Dennis Freedman > The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk > Sent from my iPhone > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 18:30:21 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:30:21 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> <41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net> <029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <052526F2-CED0-4717-B4A2-8F0123424A54@mac-access.net> Hello Chris Did you actually read my message? I have both Fusion and Parallels Desktop 6 installed. I did a side-by-side comparison. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 14:47, Chris Moore wrote: ? Parallels is much faster when it comes to 3D graphics and gaming. Parallels will probably always be faster as it does not do virtualisation in the same way Fusion does, it actually uses the Macs hardware directly, hence the faster graphics performance. As most of us blind folks are not graphic intensive gamers it is not a major issue. From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 18:31:35 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:31:35 +0100 Subject: Mac daisy books In-Reply-To: <8D999B7A-BD12-4843-9FB5-CFB041228328@gmail.com> References: <3E78C888-DD97-4D55-B7CB-B5C1048EFB46@gmail.com> <999551C5-74C7-4E86-A01D-00E2468BEEE6@mac-access.net> <8D999B7A-BD12-4843-9FB5-CFB041228328@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0B64B9FE-DB15-4D88-A35C-C0BC7D407647@mac-access.net> Hello William I don't understand your point. If you are creating DAISY books you have the means to control the level navigation. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 15:06, william lomas wrote: no I mean, if one wants to record something and put it in to their own daisy book for use From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 18:34:23 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:34:23 -0700 Subject: how do I find an app in full screen mode? Message-ID: <93BC5314-31E3-4342-A125-4E508276994D@gmail.com> Ok I disabled spaces in the keyboard shortcuts but last night I must have hit something as one of my apps are in full screen mode. Going through the apps and entering and exiting full screen mode I find that none of my apps are in full screen mode yet sometimes I hear spaces with mail, finder, etc. so is there a list I can bring up? Ty all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 20:29:40 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:29:40 -0400 Subject: Which JawBone model in UK please? References: <3227F196-AAC2-46CA-927A-0ED344E259E0@thejazzden.org.uk><6C12F3CF-D567-4EF8-AF1F-7109D706AAAF@mac-access.net> <740F8190-E319-4567-8227-2DBB32FD9A33@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: Greetings Dennis, To me it was apparent what Lynne intended, but here's a link to her very well done review which you can paste into your browser: http://www.mac-access.net/Extras/Jawbone?-Jambox/Jawbone?-Jambox.html I'm not sure which device you're looking at but the price you quoted of ?156 is a bit higher than I would expect to pay for a Jambox here in the US. The regular price here is $199, and what with the present exchange rate of slightly under 1.6$/? would be approximately ?124.4 plus vat and other taxes. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Thejazzden To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:40 AM Subject: Re: Which JawBone model in UK please? Hi Lynne That was the whole point of my msg - the link to the review is broken, or at least appears not to work for me. Does the model number JBE06 seem right - that's all I need to know really? Dennis. A Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone On 17 Sep 2011, at 14:00, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" wrote: > Dennis > > Read my review on Mac Access website. > > > Lynne > > On 17 Sep 2011, at 13:00, Thejazzden wrote: > > Hi Listers > I see various models for the JawBone speakers on sale here in the UK. I assume the latest one JBE06 which is also suitable for the Ipad is correct - selling for ?156 from Comet and elsewhere > Can someone please confirm off list? Just to explain, Lynne's review which contained the model and supplier appears to be unavailable. > > Thanks. > > > Dennis Freedman > The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk > Sent from my iPhone > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 20:44:47 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:44:47 -0400 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> I just looked at the description. Perhaps a couple stupid questions, but here goes anyway. 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Moore To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:47 AM Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 Parallels is much faster when it comes to 3D graphics and gaming. Parallels will probably always be faster as it does not do virtualisation in the same way Fusion does, it actually uses the Macs hardware directly, hence the faster graphics performance. As most of us blind folks are not graphic intensive gamers it is not a major issue. On 17 Sep 2011, at 13:52, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Mike > > In my opinion it is now faster than Parallels. > > Lynne > > On 17 Sep 2011, at 00:54, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > I wonder if it's now as fast as parallels. I remember you said that you thought parallels was faster than fusion, they have just released version 7, and it's just as inaccessible as previous versions, it's obvious that company has no interest in fixing this, but I wonder if their speeds are equal now. > On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> I'm definitely not going to talk about Windows. But I'll tell you this; Fusion 4.01 is just a dream machine! It's fast, ass-kickingly fast! It's accessible, more so than v3 in some ways. >> >> Just thought you'd like to know. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 20:56:15 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:56:15 -0400 Subject: Apple tv ports. Message-ID: Greetings, In that bogus review Dane posted, the person mentioned that the Apple tv can only connect via an HDMI port. I don't recall whether that was true? I am considering the Apple tv for its intended purpose, but was also thinking of connecting it to a stereo via an audio cable and setting it up as a speaker to use with the airfoil software product. My stereo does not have an HDMI input, so my question is whether the Apple tv has the three prong audio/video output jacks I would need, or alternatively is there an adapter or cable that would accomplish my objective? TIA and best regards. Geoff From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 21:11:54 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:11:54 +0100 Subject: Which JawBone model in UK please? In-Reply-To: References: <3227F196-AAC2-46CA-927A-0ED344E259E0@thejazzden.org.uk><6C12F3CF-D567-4EF8-AF1F-7109D706AAAF@mac-access.net> <740F8190-E319-4567-8227-2DBB32FD9A33@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Geoff That price is correct for the UK market. Remember the conversion rate Pounds to Dollars. Oh, and I'm glad you find the review to your liking. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:29, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Dennis, To me it was apparent what Lynne intended, but here's a link to her very well done review which you can paste into your browser: http://www.mac-access.net/Extras/Jawbone?-Jambox/Jawbone?-Jambox.html I'm not sure which device you're looking at but the price you quoted of ?156 is a bit higher than I would expect to pay for a Jambox here in the US. The regular price here is $199, and what with the present exchange rate of slightly under 1.6$/? would be approximately ?124.4 plus vat and other taxes. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Thejazzden To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:40 AM Subject: Re: Which JawBone model in UK please? Hi Lynne That was the whole point of my msg - the link to the review is broken, or at least appears not to work for me. Does the model number JBE06 seem right - that's all I need to know really? Dennis. A Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone On 17 Sep 2011, at 14:00, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" wrote: > Dennis > > Read my review on Mac Access website. > > > Lynne > > On 17 Sep 2011, at 13:00, Thejazzden wrote: > > Hi Listers > I see various models for the JawBone speakers on sale here in the UK. I assume the latest one JBE06 which is also suitable for the Ipad is correct - selling for ?156 from Comet and elsewhere > Can someone please confirm off list? Just to explain, Lynne's review which contained the model and supplier appears to be unavailable. > > Thanks. > > > Dennis Freedman > The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk > Sent from my iPhone > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gunn at tznet.com Sat Sep 17 21:22:19 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:22:19 -0500 Subject: bringing back to factory new? In-Reply-To: References: <4e748582.cd22340a.418f.44d4@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <53FB8420-8283-4CFC-B1F7-708FB430F4F2@tznet.com> Hello: Instead of erasing the HD, since the internal HD by default has 1 partition, just delete the partition, and when creating a new one, name it Macintosh HD. After the above, re-install the OS and then shutdown. John On Sep 17, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > I would erase the hard drive, then reinstall snow leppard, once it restarts, see if you can exit the set up, if not, just power it off and the next time it's started, it should start the set up assistant for whoever uses it. > On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me how to bring back a Mac Book Pro to the state it was in when new? >> It's running Snow Leopard and, of course, I have the factory DVDs. >> Thanks. >> Kevin >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 21:29:51 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:29:51 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> Hello Geoff On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: ? 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with anything Windows. ? 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. ? What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 21:31:36 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:31:36 +0100 Subject: Apple tv ports. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2818434C-E759-463A-810A-EF13252769FC@mac-access.net> No It has a Tosslink digital audio output and a HDMI connector. I hope that helps. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:56, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, In that bogus review Dane posted, the person mentioned that the Apple tv can only connect via an HDMI port. I don't recall whether that was true? I am considering the Apple tv for its intended purpose, but was also thinking of connecting it to a stereo via an audio cable and setting it up as a speaker to use with the airfoil software product. My stereo does not have an HDMI input, so my question is whether the Apple tv has the three prong audio/video output jacks I would need, or alternatively is there an adapter or cable that would accomplish my objective? TIA and best regards. Geoff <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 22:46:21 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:46:21 -0400 Subject: Apple tv ports. References: <2818434C-E759-463A-810A-EF13252769FC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <28BCABD13394438098F7AEB25B40CAA1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Lynne, Thanks much for the reply. Perhaps you or someone can clarify a bit? I'm unfamiliar with the term: "Tosslink digital audio", and the specs listed in the wikipedia definition didn't shed any light on it for me. My stereo's input jack has the standard two small female plugs. Will Apple tv's "Tosslink digital audio" output fit? If not is there an adapter? For example I can take a device like a computer sound board using a stereo cable consisting of one male 3.5 MM plug at one end and two smaller male plugs on the other. Thanks again and best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Apple tv ports. No It has a Tosslink digital audio output and a HDMI connector. I hope that helps. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:56, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, In that bogus review Dane posted, the person mentioned that the Apple tv can only connect via an HDMI port. I don't recall whether that was true? I am considering the Apple tv for its intended purpose, but was also thinking of connecting it to a stereo via an audio cable and setting it up as a speaker to use with the airfoil software product. My stereo does not have an HDMI input, so my question is whether the Apple tv has the three prong audio/video output jacks I would need, or alternatively is there an adapter or cable that would accomplish my objective? TIA and best regards. Geoff <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From abreier at kc.rr.com Sat Sep 17 23:19:40 2011 From: abreier at kc.rr.com (Andrea Breier) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:19:40 -0500 Subject: Apple tv input and tebo? Message-ID: <81E6AFFA3E994BBB804E4B2E092BFA77@andrea78cdd59a> I have two questions about the apple tv. 1 can it be used in conjunction with tebo? and 2 how do you best do input, with a wireless keyboard, or do you just use the remote that is provided? Hugs, AJ Recipe for happiness: Live with enthusiasm, smile for no reason, love without conditions, act with purpose, listen with your heart, and laugh often. NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. From nallan at wdev.net Sat Sep 17 23:19:00 2011 From: nallan at wdev.net (Nick Allan) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:19:00 +1000 Subject: mp3 tagger Message-ID: <000001cc7587$cee942d0$6cbbc870$@wdev.net> Hi all I'm looking for an application that will allow me to quickly put id3 tags into mp3 files. E.g I've got a folder full of mp3's I want to tag them so they show up in itunes correctly grouped. Any suggestions on a vo accessible option for osx? Regards Nick From support at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 23:39:16 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:39:16 +0100 Subject: New Sister-group on its way Message-ID: <21747ACD-A6DA-4F3F-95FA-EA5FAECD35A9@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Please do not reply to this post on list. Read on for more info. In order to satisfy the needs of those who wish to discuss Microsoft Windows, accessibility and anything else related to that platform, Gordon is currently working on establishing a new group to add to our sister network, "Techno-Chat.net". The Windows Access list will be ready soon; and we are trying to gage interest levels to make sure it's going to be worth putting all the work into it. Would anybody interested in this new group mind please contacting the support address privately to let us know; please do not reply to this on list. Thank you. Lynne ------------------------------ Gordon & Lynne Smith, Are you an iOS or Mac OS fan? If so, consider joining our vibrant community of fellow-enthusiasts. To join our forum, send a message to: with the word "subscribe" [no quotes] in the subject line of your message. Or else, visit: ------------------------------ From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 23:51:41 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:51:41 +0100 Subject: Apple tv ports. In-Reply-To: <28BCABD13394438098F7AEB25B40CAA1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <2818434C-E759-463A-810A-EF13252769FC@mac-access.net> <28BCABD13394438098F7AEB25B40CAA1@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <3BDA1408-A68E-4902-AF07-EF74E101EE1A@mac-access.net> Hello Geoff No, you couldn't connect to your stereo without a compatible piece of equipment between the two I'm afraid. Apple TV is entirely digital, there are no analogue interfaces. HDI carries digital audio and video, Tosslink carries digital audio only. I hope that helps. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 22:46, Geoff Waaler wrote: Lynne, Thanks much for the reply. Perhaps you or someone can clarify a bit? I'm unfamiliar with the term: "Tosslink digital audio", and the specs listed in the wikipedia definition didn't shed any light on it for me. My stereo's input jack has the standard two small female plugs. Will Apple tv's "Tosslink digital audio" output fit? If not is there an adapter? For example I can take a device like a computer sound board using a stereo cable consisting of one male 3.5 MM plug at one end and two smaller male plugs on the other. Thanks again and best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Apple tv ports. No It has a Tosslink digital audio output and a HDMI connector. I hope that helps. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:56, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, In that bogus review Dane posted, the person mentioned that the Apple tv can only connect via an HDMI port. I don't recall whether that was true? I am considering the Apple tv for its intended purpose, but was also thinking of connecting it to a stereo via an audio cable and setting it up as a speaker to use with the airfoil software product. My stereo does not have an HDMI input, so my question is whether the Apple tv has the three prong audio/video output jacks I would need, or alternatively is there an adapter or cable that would accomplish my objective? TIA and best regards. Geoff <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 17 23:53:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:53:27 +0100 Subject: Apple tv input and tebo? In-Reply-To: <81E6AFFA3E994BBB804E4B2E092BFA77@andrea78cdd59a> References: <81E6AFFA3E994BBB804E4B2E092BFA77@andrea78cdd59a> Message-ID: Hello Andrea yes, it has an implementation of VoiceOver built-in. No, you don't use a keyboard. It is supplied with an Apple Remote which is what you use to control the device by default. There are a couple of software apps for iOS which will let you control it via that; but that it's the default behaviour. Lynne On 17 Sep 2011, at 23:19, Andrea Breier wrote: I have two questions about the apple tv. 1 can it be used in conjunction with tebo? and 2 how do you best do input, with a wireless keyboard, or do you just use the remote that is provided? Hugs, AJ Recipe for happiness: Live with enthusiasm, smile for no reason, love without conditions, act with purpose, listen with your heart, and laugh often. NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Sun Sep 18 00:43:12 2011 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:43:12 +0200 Subject: Skype and text chat. Message-ID: Hi. When I use the text chat on Skype, I normally goes to the edit field and when I got an answer, I goes into the HTML field, and read when I press enter, and write the next chat message. I helped one of my friends today, he said that it was difficult that way. I tried to turn on that the messages should be read without you will have to do anything. But it will not work. How do you manage text chat in Skype. I am using the new Skype beta. Best regards Annie. From n0oxy at charter.net Sun Sep 18 00:46:39 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:46:39 -0500 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <052526F2-CED0-4717-B4A2-8F0123424A54@mac-access.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> <41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net> <029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <052526F2-CED0-4717-B4A2-8F0123424A54@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <09F35F7B-601B-470E-8F34-2BB9C50033AD@charter.net> Wonder if parallels 7 is as fast as fusion 4, I know macworld and some other sites will be updating their comparisons. Fusion 4 is quite fast. On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello Chris > > Did you actually read my message? I have both Fusion and Parallels Desktop 6 installed. I did a side-by-side comparison. > > Lynne > > On 17 Sep 2011, at 14:47, Chris Moore wrote: > > ? Parallels is much faster when it comes to 3D graphics and gaming. Parallels will probably always be faster as it does not do virtualisation in the same way Fusion does, it actually uses the Macs hardware directly, hence the faster graphics performance. As most of us blind folks are not graphic intensive gamers it is not a major issue. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sun Sep 18 00:52:49 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:52:49 -0300 Subject: Mac Mini firmware update. Message-ID: <911064A01BD24502A498E29FBFC2D921@MainComputer> Hi Folks: There is a firmware update for the MAC MINI. Does anyone know what issues are addressed? Thanks all over the place. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6472 (20110917) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From n0oxy at charter.net Sun Sep 18 01:03:36 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:03:36 -0500 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: You will need to install a screen reader in your windows virtual machine, fusion does provide ways copy and paste between windows and the mac, you can choose how intigrated your virtual machine is with the mac, for me, I prefer to keep them totally separate. On Sep 17, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > I just looked at the description. Perhaps a couple stupid questions, but here goes anyway. > > 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? > > 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? > > What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Moore > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:47 AM > Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 > > > Parallels is much faster when it comes to 3D graphics and gaming. Parallels will probably always be faster as it does not do virtualisation in the same way Fusion does, it actually uses the Macs hardware directly, hence the faster graphics performance. As most of us blind folks are not graphic intensive gamers it is not a major issue. > On 17 Sep 2011, at 13:52, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Mike >> >> In my opinion it is now faster than Parallels. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 17 Sep 2011, at 00:54, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >> I wonder if it's now as fast as parallels. I remember you said that you thought parallels was faster than fusion, they have just released version 7, and it's just as inaccessible as previous versions, it's obvious that company has no interest in fixing this, but I wonder if their speeds are equal now. >> On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> I'm definitely not going to talk about Windows. But I'll tell you this; Fusion 4.01 is just a dream machine! It's fast, ass-kickingly fast! It's accessible, more so than v3 in some ways. >>> >>> Just thought you'd like to know. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sun Sep 18 01:11:52 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:11:52 -0500 Subject: Mac Mini firmware update. In-Reply-To: <911064A01BD24502A498E29FBFC2D921@MainComputer> References: <911064A01BD24502A498E29FBFC2D921@MainComputer> Message-ID: Which model of mac mini? On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:52 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > There is a firmware update for the MAC MINI. Does anyone know what issues are addressed? > > Thanks all over the place. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6472 (20110917) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 01:53:03 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:53:03 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <09F35F7B-601B-470E-8F34-2BB9C50033AD@charter.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> <41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net> <029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <052526F2-CED0-4717-B4A2-8F0123424A54@mac-access.net> <09F35F7B-601B-470E-8F34-2BB9C50033AD@charter.net> Message-ID: <16B4767D-E2CC-421B-9F02-2C14856CAF6F@mac-access.net> Hello Mike I didn't know 7 was out. I'll go and have a look. Lynne On 18 Sep 2011, at 00:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: Wonder if parallels 7 is as fast as fusion 4, I know macworld and some other sites will be updating their comparisons. Fusion 4 is quite fast. On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello Chris > > Did you actually read my message? I have both Fusion and Parallels Desktop 6 installed. I did a side-by-side comparison. > > Lynne > > On 17 Sep 2011, at 14:47, Chris Moore wrote: > > ? Parallels is much faster when it comes to 3D graphics and gaming. Parallels will probably always be faster as it does not do virtualisation in the same way Fusion does, it actually uses the Macs hardware directly, hence the faster graphics performance. As most of us blind folks are not graphic intensive gamers it is not a major issue. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 01:53:56 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:53:56 +0100 Subject: Mac Mini firmware update. In-Reply-To: <911064A01BD24502A498E29FBFC2D921@MainComputer> References: <911064A01BD24502A498E29FBFC2D921@MainComputer> Message-ID: <34AC3A41-A867-4601-8FF4-EBDCCF38DFC0@mac-access.net> Hello Jim The core issue is temperature control. Lynne On 18 Sep 2011, at 00:52, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hi Folks: There is a firmware update for the MAC MINI. Does anyone know what issues are addressed? Thanks all over the place. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6472 (20110917) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 01:55:01 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:55:01 +0100 Subject: Mac Mini firmware update. In-Reply-To: References: <911064A01BD24502A498E29FBFC2D921@MainComputer> Message-ID: <4252EC25-393C-4F10-83AA-58B03589E8B4@mac-access.net> Mike This is for the mid 2011 model. Lynne On 18 Sep 2011, at 01:11, Mike Arrigo wrote: Which model of mac mini? On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:52 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > There is a firmware update for the MAC MINI. Does anyone know what issues are addressed? > > Thanks all over the place. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6472 (20110917) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jpanarese at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 02:16:24 2011 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:16:24 -0400 Subject: Mac Mini firmware update. In-Reply-To: <34AC3A41-A867-4601-8FF4-EBDCCF38DFC0@mac-access.net> References: <911064A01BD24502A498E29FBFC2D921@MainComputer> <34AC3A41-A867-4601-8FF4-EBDCCF38DFC0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Wasn't it that and also something for the new 27 inch Thunderbolt display support? Or am I thinking of the MBA? Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Sep 17, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Jim > > The core issue is temperature control. > > Lynne > > On 18 Sep 2011, at 00:52, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > > Hi Folks: > > There is a firmware update for the MAC MINI. Does anyone know what issues are addressed? > > Thanks all over the place. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6472 (20110917) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 02:18:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:18:24 +0100 Subject: Mac Mini firmware update. In-Reply-To: References: <911064A01BD24502A498E29FBFC2D921@MainComputer> <34AC3A41-A867-4601-8FF4-EBDCCF38DFC0@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <48FD53C4-70AB-4F49-BC92-D5961BFD81B3@mac-access.net> Hello John I'm not sure about the thunderbolt support. But I read the article that accompanied the update and it talked about fan control relative to temperature. Lynne On 18 Sep 2011, at 02:16, John Panarese wrote: Wasn't it that and also something for the new 27 inch Thunderbolt display support? Or am I thinking of the MBA? Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Sep 17, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Jim > > The core issue is temperature control. > > Lynne > > On 18 Sep 2011, at 00:52, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > > Hi Folks: > > There is a firmware update for the MAC MINI. Does anyone know what issues are addressed? > > Thanks all over the place. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6472 (20110917) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jpanarese at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 02:23:59 2011 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:23:59 -0400 Subject: Mac Mini firmware update. In-Reply-To: <48FD53C4-70AB-4F49-BC92-D5961BFD81B3@mac-access.net> References: <911064A01BD24502A498E29FBFC2D921@MainComputer> <34AC3A41-A867-4601-8FF4-EBDCCF38DFC0@mac-access.net> <48FD53C4-70AB-4F49-BC92-D5961BFD81B3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I'm not sure. I think it also had to do with the Thunderbolt displays, as I believe the MBP and MBA also received firmware updates. However, I know it did have to do with the heating for sure. Nevertheless, it's worth the update. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Sep 17, 2011, at 9:18 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello John > > I'm not sure about the thunderbolt support. But I read the article that accompanied the update and it talked about fan control relative to temperature. > > Lynne > > On 18 Sep 2011, at 02:16, John Panarese wrote: > > Wasn't it that and also something for the new 27 inch Thunderbolt display support? Or am I thinking of the MBA? > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Sep 17, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Jim >> >> The core issue is temperature control. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 18 Sep 2011, at 00:52, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >> Hi Folks: >> >> There is a firmware update for the MAC MINI. Does anyone know what issues are addressed? >> >> Thanks all over the place. >> >> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6472 (20110917) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 04:03:34 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:03:34 +0100 Subject: Windows-Access Is Up And Running Message-ID: <48A27D0B-E2EE-470E-8881-04824798E97B@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I'm posting this here because it is the quickest way to let people know. Those who love their Windows will maybe be interested. If you wish to reply please do so *OFF LIST*. I won't acknowledge any on-list replies. Also this will allow us to tighten up in a bit way on any references to Windows on this group. Gordon has finished his work on schedule. We cam now announce the availability of our second Techno Chat Dot Net network E-Mail forum. Windows-Access. Windows-Access is similar to our Mac Access group, but obviously the focus of this group is Microsoft Windows; with an emphasis on, although not restricted to, accessibility. If you're one of those people who uses virtualisation technologies such as Parallels Desktop, CrossOver and VMWare Fusion on the Mac, VMWare Server or VMWare Workstation on the PC, we now have a place where you can discuss the configuration of your Windows operating systems, assuming they are the guests or hosts. This has long been a difficult topic on Mac Access; so we are pleased to be able to provide this facility. If you wish to join this group, here are the details: To Join the Windows-Access group, send a message to: and follow the authentication responses you will receive in mailback messages. Once you have subscribed, you will receive the welcome message which contains a few do's and donts. Please read the document so you are aware of what's what. Once you are a member, please spread the word. To post to this group, send your messages to: . We would appreciate your telling others about the group if you think they might be interested. I should point out from the start that, although we promote lively discussion, flaming and ridiculing others will not be tolerated. We are aware of how some people get worked up by this kind of thing, but we ask you to please behave maturely; which is the behaviour we are accustomed to seeing on our other groups. Any questions, please contact the support address, . Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 04:44:22 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:44:22 +0100 Subject: Mac Mini firmware update. In-Reply-To: References: <911064A01BD24502A498E29FBFC2D921@MainComputer> <34AC3A41-A867-4601-8FF4-EBDCCF38DFC0@mac-access.net> <48FD53C4-70AB-4F49-BC92-D5961BFD81B3@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <741E4361-D33D-4CB1-8484-84F62F3F70C2@mac-access.net> Hello John We applied the update about 10 days or so ago and I can tell you that the fan performance in our Minis are far better. I don't know whether it applies to earlier models; I would doubt it to be honest. But 3 of our servers are now running mid 2011 Intel? I7 2.0 GHZ quad core processor-based machines and all of them has been very much affected by the update. As I said, the machines are now running virtually cold and the fan performance is much much better. Instad of running for periods of 10 to 15 minutes at high speed the machines are now virtually silent all the time and the LED on the front doesn't flash like it used too. Lynne On 18 Sep 2011, at 02:23, John Panarese wrote: I'm not sure. I think it also had to do with the Thunderbolt displays, as I believe the MBP and MBA also received firmware updates. However, I know it did have to do with the heating for sure. Nevertheless, it's worth the update. From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sun Sep 18 03:17:01 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:17:01 -0500 Subject: firmware update? Message-ID: <9BDBD8172FF04B0DB17489B1831E376F@joseph1> does this apply to the mac mini of early 09, of which i have? and if so, where do i obtain it from? From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 05:25:24 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 05:25:24 +0100 Subject: firmware update? In-Reply-To: <9BDBD8172FF04B0DB17489B1831E376F@joseph1> References: <9BDBD8172FF04B0DB17489B1831E376F@joseph1> Message-ID: Joe Didn't you read the rest of this thread? :) If it applies to your Mac, it will be in software update. Lynne On 18 Sep 2011, at 03:17, joe quinn wrote: does this apply to the mac mini of early 09, of which i have? and if so, where do i obtain it from? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Sep 18 08:46:33 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:46:33 +0100 Subject: Podcast on Lion OS Message-ID: <4E75A1D9.70506@techno-chat.net> Hello all. Here is the link to a podcast done by Mike Origo (excuse spelling) on Mac OSX Lion. Enjoy. http://media.libsyn.com/media/bct/bct1567MacDemo14.mp3 Chat soon. From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Sun Sep 18 09:14:10 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:14:10 +0100 Subject: Apple tv ports. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5070B41B-44BC-4A0E-8FDC-A8AFF9D39A66@googlemail.com> Hi The new apple tv only has an audio out via an optical connection, I had to get an optical to phono with a d.a.c ( digital to analogue convertor for my Denon hi-fi ) from amazon but it all works very spiffily now. Cheers G From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:56, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings, > > In that bogus review Dane posted, the person mentioned that the Apple tv can only connect via an HDMI port. I don't recall whether that was true? I am considering the Apple tv for its intended purpose, but was also thinking of connecting it to a stereo via an audio cable and setting it up as a speaker to use with the airfoil software product. > > My stereo does not have an HDMI input, so my question is whether the Apple tv has the three prong audio/video output jacks I would need, or alternatively is there an adapter or cable that would accomplish my objective? > > TIA and best regards. > Geoff From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sun Sep 18 11:03:26 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Thejazzden) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:03:26 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion - how do I get ver 4 In-Reply-To: <16B4767D-E2CC-421B-9F02-2C14856CAF6F@mac-access.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> <41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net> <029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <052526F2-CED0-4717-B4A2-8F0123424A54@mac-access.net> <09F35F7B-601B-470E-8F34-2BB9C50033AD@charter.net> <16B4767D-E2CC-421B-9F02-2C14856CAF6F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Listers I am running VMWare Fusion ver 3.1.3, but when I go to check for updates from the software I am told this is the latest version. Is this because ver 4r is a major release? If I download from the website are there any problems in upgrading that anyone knows of? Any comments welcomed please. Dennis. Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone On 18 Sep 2011, at 01:53, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" wrote: > Hello Mike > > I didn't know 7 was out. I'll go and have a look. > > Lynne > > On 18 Sep 2011, at 00:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Wonder if parallels 7 is as fast as fusion 4, I know macworld and some other sites will be updating their comparisons. Fusion 4 is quite fast. > On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hello Chris >> >> Did you actually read my message? I have both Fusion and Parallels Desktop 6 installed. I did a side-by-side comparison. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 17 Sep 2011, at 14:47, Chris Moore wrote: >> >> ? Parallels is much faster when it comes to 3D graphics and gaming. Parallels will probably always be faster as it does not do virtualisation in the same way Fusion does, it actually uses the Macs hardware directly, hence the faster graphics performance. As most of us blind folks are not graphic intensive gamers it is not a major issue. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 11:25:15 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:25:15 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion - how do I get ver 4 In-Reply-To: References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> <41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net> <029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <052526F2-CED0-4717-B4A2-8F0123424A54@mac-access.net> <09F35F7B-601B-470E-8F34-2BB9C50033AD@charter.net> <16B4767D-E2CC-421B-9F02-2C14856CAF6F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Dennis The first thing I would suggest is the obvious, backup your VM before you upgrade. But it should all work fine, ours did. If you want me to explain it to you properly I can call you. Gordon On 18 Sep 2011, at 11:03, Thejazzden wrote: Hello Listers I am running VMWare Fusion ver 3.1.3, but when I go to check for updates from the software I am told this is the latest version. Is this because ver 4r is a major release? If I download from the website are there any problems in upgrading that anyone knows of? Any comments welcomed please. Dennis. Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone On 18 Sep 2011, at 01:53, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" wrote: > Hello Mike > > I didn't know 7 was out. I'll go and have a look. > > Lynne > > On 18 Sep 2011, at 00:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Wonder if parallels 7 is as fast as fusion 4, I know macworld and some other sites will be updating their comparisons. Fusion 4 is quite fast. > On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hello Chris >> >> Did you actually read my message? I have both Fusion and Parallels Desktop 6 installed. I did a side-by-side comparison. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 17 Sep 2011, at 14:47, Chris Moore wrote: >> >> ? Parallels is much faster when it comes to 3D graphics and gaming. Parallels will probably always be faster as it does not do virtualisation in the same way Fusion does, it actually uses the Macs hardware directly, hence the faster graphics performance. As most of us blind folks are not graphic intensive gamers it is not a major issue. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Sun Sep 18 12:14:05 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Thejazzden) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:14:05 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion - how do I get ver 4 In-Reply-To: References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> <41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net> <029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <052526F2-CED0-4717-B4A2-8F0123424A54@mac-access.net> <09F35F7B-601B-470E-8F34-2BB9C50033AD@charter.net> <16B4767D-E2CC-421B-9F02-2C14856CAF6F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <698048FD-2196-413B-8484-E40B2C743E31@thejazzden.org.uk> No problem Gordon. I was just curious as to why the software said there is no update available when there obviously is. Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone On 18 Sep 2011, at 11:25, Gordon Smith wrote: > Dennis > > The first thing I would suggest is the obvious, backup your VM before you upgrade. But it should all work fine, ours did. > If you want me to explain it to you properly I can call you. > > Gordon > > On 18 Sep 2011, at 11:03, Thejazzden wrote: > > Hello Listers > I am running VMWare Fusion ver 3.1.3, but when I go to check for updates from the software I am told this is the latest version. Is this because ver 4r is a major release? If I download from the website are there any problems in upgrading that anyone knows of? > Any comments welcomed please. > Dennis. > > > Dennis Freedman > The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 18 Sep 2011, at 01:53, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" wrote: > >> Hello Mike >> >> I didn't know 7 was out. I'll go and have a look. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 18 Sep 2011, at 00:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >> Wonder if parallels 7 is as fast as fusion 4, I know macworld and some other sites will be updating their comparisons. Fusion 4 is quite fast. >> On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Chris >>> >>> Did you actually read my message? I have both Fusion and Parallels Desktop 6 installed. I did a side-by-side comparison. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 17 Sep 2011, at 14:47, Chris Moore wrote: >>> >>> ? Parallels is much faster when it comes to 3D graphics and gaming. Parallels will probably always be faster as it does not do virtualisation in the same way Fusion does, it actually uses the Macs hardware directly, hence the faster graphics performance. As most of us blind folks are not graphic intensive gamers it is not a major issue. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Sun Sep 18 12:31:40 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:31:40 +0100 Subject: Opening a .chm archive Message-ID: <2E233741-EC59-49EB-9346-6A5138FFAD0A@googlemail.com> Hi I have a book from the dark side in a .chm file which not unreasonably will not open on my mac book. Can anyone point me to a tool to open such files please. Thanks in advance. G From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. From gordon at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 12:32:57 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:32:57 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion - how do I get ver 4 In-Reply-To: <698048FD-2196-413B-8484-E40B2C743E31@thejazzden.org.uk> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net> <41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net> <029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <052526F2-CED0-4717-B4A2-8F0123424A54@mac-access.net> <09F35F7B-601B-470E-8F34-2BB9C50033AD@charter.net> <16B4767D-E2CC-421B-9F02-2C14856CAF6F@mac-access.net> <698048FD-2196-413B-8484-E40B2C743E31@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: The reason is Dennis that the update isn't an upgrade. The purchase price is $49.95 until the end of the year. So there isn't an upgrade as such. But you know, if you are happy with 3 you're not going to gain a lot by upgrading. It is a little faster, that's true. But other than that there isn't much different. I haven't tried yet but somebody reckons that Snapshots are not accessible 4. Gordon On 18 Sep 2011, at 12:14, Thejazzden wrote: No problem Gordon. I was just curious as to why the software said there is no update available when there obviously is. Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone On 18 Sep 2011, at 11:25, Gordon Smith wrote: > Dennis > > The first thing I would suggest is the obvious, backup your VM before you upgrade. But it should all work fine, ours did. > If you want me to explain it to you properly I can call you. > > Gordon > > On 18 Sep 2011, at 11:03, Thejazzden wrote: > > Hello Listers > I am running VMWare Fusion ver 3.1.3, but when I go to check for updates from the software I am told this is the latest version. Is this because ver 4r is a major release? If I download from the website are there any problems in upgrading that anyone knows of? > Any comments welcomed please. > Dennis. > > > Dennis Freedman > The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 18 Sep 2011, at 01:53, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" wrote: > >> Hello Mike >> >> I didn't know 7 was out. I'll go and have a look. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 18 Sep 2011, at 00:46, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >> Wonder if parallels 7 is as fast as fusion 4, I know macworld and some other sites will be updating their comparisons. Fusion 4 is quite fast. >> On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Chris >>> >>> Did you actually read my message? I have both Fusion and Parallels Desktop 6 installed. I did a side-by-side comparison. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 17 Sep 2011, at 14:47, Chris Moore wrote: >>> >>> ? Parallels is much faster when it comes to 3D graphics and gaming. Parallels will probably always be faster as it does not do virtualisation in the same way Fusion does, it actually uses the Macs hardware directly, hence the faster graphics performance. As most of us blind folks are not graphic intensive gamers it is not a major issue. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Sep 18 12:33:20 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:33:20 +0100 Subject: Problems paying for VMWare Fusion 4.0.1! Message-ID: <6AEF8457-40BE-4C06-8DB9-F1FDAE361F94@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I have finally gotten VMWare Fusion 4.0.1 working with the virtual machines I used with VMWare Fusion 3. Everything went well except for problems paying for it! I wonder if others have this problem and if so what did i do wrong. I am using the latest version of Safari and Lion 10.7.1. I have interact with all images set to always. I use DOM mode. The problem is that Safari could not find the buttons to complete each stage of the purchase. These buttons appear to be images with no alternate text. In the end I had to make my purchase using Firefox on Windows with the WindowEyes screen reader. This had no trouble finding the relevant buttons. I have noticed similar problems on other web pages. Sometimes I can find the buttons by using the item chooser which often seems to show more web content than interacting with the html content. Have others had these problems and if so how have you gotten round them? WOuld switching to Group mode help? Would turning off cursor tracking help? Fusion 4 is certainly much faster than Fusion 3, especially after Windows has booted. It is so good that I will be less inhibited about using Windows when Safari lets me down! Best regards..... Paul Hopewell From gordon at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 12:33:48 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:33:48 +0100 Subject: Opening a .chm archive In-Reply-To: <2E233741-EC59-49EB-9346-6A5138FFAD0A@googlemail.com> References: <2E233741-EC59-49EB-9346-6A5138FFAD0A@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <62F340BD-B78C-44EC-AE0A-D362BD362562@mac-access.net> I'm not sure you can. Gordon\ On 18 Sep 2011, at 12:31, Gordon Keen wrote: Hi I have a book from the dark side in a .chm file which not unreasonably will not open on my mac book. Can anyone point me to a tool to open such files please. Thanks in advance. G From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 12:35:29 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:35:29 +0100 Subject: Problems paying for VMWare Fusion 4.0.1! In-Reply-To: <6AEF8457-40BE-4C06-8DB9-F1FDAE361F94@hopewell.org.uk> References: <6AEF8457-40BE-4C06-8DB9-F1FDAE361F94@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Paul It's a bit tricky but it worked fine here. I bought our second copy although Lynne did the first. Gordon On 18 Sep 2011, at 12:33, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello, I have finally gotten VMWare Fusion 4.0.1 working with the virtual machines I used with VMWare Fusion 3. Everything went well except for problems paying for it! I wonder if others have this problem and if so what did i do wrong. I am using the latest version of Safari and Lion 10.7.1. I have interact with all images set to always. I use DOM mode. The problem is that Safari could not find the buttons to complete each stage of the purchase. These buttons appear to be images with no alternate text. In the end I had to make my purchase using Firefox on Windows with the WindowEyes screen reader. This had no trouble finding the relevant buttons. I have noticed similar problems on other web pages. Sometimes I can find the buttons by using the item chooser which often seems to show more web content than interacting with the html content. Have others had these problems and if so how have you gotten round them? WOuld switching to Group mode help? Would turning off cursor tracking help? Fusion 4 is certainly much faster than Fusion 3, especially after Windows has booted. It is so good that I will be less inhibited about using Windows when Safari lets me down! Best regards..... Paul Hopewell <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 12:52:20 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:52:20 +0100 Subject: Opening a .chm archive In-Reply-To: <2E233741-EC59-49EB-9346-6A5138FFAD0A@googlemail.com> References: <2E233741-EC59-49EB-9346-6A5138FFAD0A@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <762F06B5-23AB-489F-ACFA-66712388B74F@mac-access.net> What's a CHM archive? I've never heard of it. Thanks James On 18 Sep 2011, at 12:31, Gordon Keen wrote: > Hi > > I have a book from the dark side in a .chm file which not unreasonably will not open on my mac book. Can anyone point me to a tool to open such files please. > > Thanks in advance. > > G > > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 13:20:27 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:20:27 +0100 Subject: Opening a .chm archive In-Reply-To: <762F06B5-23AB-489F-ACFA-66712388B74F@mac-access.net> References: <2E233741-EC59-49EB-9346-6A5138FFAD0A@googlemail.com> <762F06B5-23AB-489F-ACFA-66712388B74F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi James They used to be used by Microsoft for some document apps. But they're exclusively Windows I believe. Gordon On 18 Sep 2011, at 12:52, James AUSTIN wrote: What's a CHM archive? I've never heard of it. From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sun Sep 18 14:51:06 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:51:06 -0500 Subject: firmware update? References: <9BDBD8172FF04B0DB17489B1831E376F@joseph1> Message-ID: <97A4374A4CB54F8AB36D3630B95E7685@joseph1> it's not, so, it did'nt i suspect. :) just checked, but, i'm not srue if my updates are slow or whatever. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: Re: firmware update? > Joe > > Didn't you read the rest of this thread? :) > > If it applies to your Mac, it will be in software update. > > Lynne > > > On 18 Sep 2011, at 03:17, joe quinn wrote: > > does this apply to the mac mini of early 09, of which i have? and if so, > where do i obtain it from? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Sun Sep 18 15:23:46 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 10:23:46 -0400 Subject: Problems paying for VMWare Fusion 4.0.1! In-Reply-To: <6AEF8457-40BE-4C06-8DB9-F1FDAE361F94@hopewell.org.uk> References: <6AEF8457-40BE-4C06-8DB9-F1FDAE361F94@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <0LRQ0017R2NR0IH0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Paul! I also used IE in Windows to purchase the upgrade. Didn't give Safari a thought, as I purchased it from work, and couldn't bring my MacBook Pro in. My question is: How do I upgrade once I downloaded the latest version? Haven't had a lot of time working on my MacBook Pro, so am still getting used to it. Matthew Chao At 07:33 AM 9/18/2011, you wrote: >Hello, >I have finally gotten VMWare Fusion 4.0.1 working with the virtual >machines I used with VMWare Fusion 3. Everything went well except >for problems paying for it! I wonder if others have this problem and >if so what did i do wrong. > >I am using the latest version of Safari and Lion 10.7.1. I have >interact with all images set to always. I use DOM mode. The problem >is that Safari could not find the buttons to complete each stage of >the purchase. These buttons appear to be images with no alternate >text. In the end I had to make my purchase using Firefox on Windows >with the WindowEyes screen reader. This had no trouble finding the >relevant buttons. > >I have noticed similar problems on other web pages. Sometimes I can >find the buttons by using the item chooser which often seems to show >more web content than interacting with the html content. > >Have others had these problems and if so how have you gotten round >them? WOuld switching to Group mode help? Would turning off cursor >tracking help? > >Fusion 4 is certainly much faster than Fusion 3, especially after >Windows has booted. It is so good that I will be less inhibited >about using Windows when Safari lets me down! > >Best regards..... > >Paul Hopewell ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > This email was scanned by VIPRE version 4.0.4194 when it was sent, using definitions version 10511 From chris at mysticplace.info Sun Sep 18 15:03:09 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 10:03:09 -0400 Subject: firmware update? In-Reply-To: <97A4374A4CB54F8AB36D3630B95E7685@joseph1> References: <97A4374A4CB54F8AB36D3630B95E7685@joseph1> Message-ID: <20110918100308.2CA0.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> I have an early 2009 mac mini and the firmware apparently didn't apply. Hope this helps. Chris - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 15:28:13 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:28:13 +0100 Subject: firmware update? In-Reply-To: <97A4374A4CB54F8AB36D3630B95E7685@joseph1> References: <9BDBD8172FF04B0DB17489B1831E376F@joseph1> <97A4374A4CB54F8AB36D3630B95E7685@joseph1> Message-ID: Hello Joe If you have a 2009 Mac Mini it does not apply to you. Lynne On 18 Sep 2011, at 14:51, joe quinn wrote: it's not, so, it did'nt i suspect. :) just checked, but, i'm not srue if my updates are slow or whatever. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: Re: firmware update? > Joe > > Didn't you read the rest of this thread? :) > > If it applies to your Mac, it will be in software update. > > Lynne > > > On 18 Sep 2011, at 03:17, joe quinn wrote: > > does this apply to the mac mini of early 09, of which i have? and if so, where do i obtain it from? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From n0oxy at charter.net Sun Sep 18 15:29:27 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:29:27 -0500 Subject: firmware update? In-Reply-To: <9BDBD8172FF04B0DB17489B1831E376F@joseph1> References: <9BDBD8172FF04B0DB17489B1831E376F@joseph1> Message-ID: <9211DC3F-1A82-4944-81AD-C438527374A7@charter.net> Usually software update will tell you if there are updates. On Sep 17, 2011, at 9:17 PM, joe quinn wrote: > does this apply to the mac mini of early 09, of which i have? and if so, where do i obtain it from? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 15:30:48 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:30:48 +0100 Subject: firmware update? In-Reply-To: <20110918100308.2CA0.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <97A4374A4CB54F8AB36D3630B95E7685@joseph1> <20110918100308.2CA0.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <532F4708-AB1F-4007-8FE1-13AB92547EA4@mac-access.net> Hello Chris The firmware addresses fan speed issues and adds support for more Thunderbolt displays. It only applies to mid 2011 models and, just possibly but not likely, mid 2010 as well. Lynne On 18 Sep 2011, at 15:03, Chris G wrote: I have an early 2009 mac mini and the firmware apparently didn't apply. Hope this helps. From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Sep 18 16:33:44 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:33:44 +0100 Subject: Problems paying for VMWare Fusion 4.0.1! In-Reply-To: <0LRQ0017R2NR0IH0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> References: <6AEF8457-40BE-4C06-8DB9-F1FDAE361F94@hopewell.org.uk> <0LRQ0017R2NR0IH0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Hi Matthew, I just copied the VMWare.app file from the DMG to my application folder and ran it. I had to enter the licence key. I then used the file menu to open the virtual machine I had previously used with Fusion 3. that opened a dialogue asking if I wanted to upgrade that virtual machine to which I replied yes. I then had to wait a while and eventually heard the Windows start up music. Good luck with the upgrade. Paul On 18 Sep 2011, at 15:23, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Paul! I also used IE in Windows to purchase the upgrade. Didn't give Safari a thought, as I purchased it from work, and couldn't bring my MacBook Pro in. > > My question is: How do I upgrade once I downloaded the latest version? Haven't had a lot of time working on my MacBook Pro, so am still getting used to it. > > Matthew Chao > > At 07:33 AM 9/18/2011, you wrote: >> Hello, >> I have finally gotten VMWare Fusion 4.0.1 working with the virtual machines I used with VMWare Fusion 3. Everything went well except for problems paying for it! I wonder if others have this problem and if so what did i do wrong. >> >> I am using the latest version of Safari and Lion 10.7.1. I have interact with all images set to always. I use DOM mode. The problem is that Safari could not find the buttons to complete each stage of the purchase. These buttons appear to be images with no alternate text. In the end I had to make my purchase using Firefox on Windows with the WindowEyes screen reader. This had no trouble finding the relevant buttons. >> >> I have noticed similar problems on other web pages. Sometimes I can find the buttons by using the item chooser which often seems to show more web content than interacting with the html content. >> >> Have others had these problems and if so how have you gotten round them? WOuld switching to Group mode help? Would turning off cursor tracking help? >> >> Fusion 4 is certainly much faster than Fusion 3, especially after Windows has booted. It is so good that I will be less inhibited about using Windows when Safari lets me down! >> >> Best regards..... >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > > > > This email was scanned by VIPRE version 4.0.4194 when it was sent, using definitions version 10511 > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From mattchao at verizon.net Sun Sep 18 16:42:11 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:42:11 -0400 Subject: Problems paying for VMWare Fusion 4.0.1! In-Reply-To: References: <6AEF8457-40BE-4C06-8DB9-F1FDAE361F94@hopewell.org.uk> <0LRQ0017R2NR0IH0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <0LRQ00IZV6AF2QY1@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Paul! Thanks for the help. Will give it a go. Am looking forward to a faster Fusion. By the way, should I leave VO on to get that question about upgrading the virtual machine? Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao At 11:33 AM 9/18/2011, you wrote: >Hi Matthew, >I just copied the VMWare.app file from the DMG to my application >folder and ran it. I had to enter the licence key. I then used the >file menu to open the virtual machine I had previously used with >Fusion 3. that opened a dialogue asking if I wanted to upgrade that >virtual machine to which I replied yes. I then had to wait a >while and eventually heard the Windows start up music. >Good luck with the upgrade. > >Paul > >On 18 Sep 2011, at 15:23, Matthew Chao wrote: > > > Hi, Paul! I also used IE in Windows to purchase the > upgrade. Didn't give Safari a thought, as I purchased it from > work, and couldn't bring my MacBook Pro in. > > > > My question is: How do I upgrade once I downloaded the latest > version? Haven't had a lot of time working on my MacBook Pro, so > am still getting used to it. > > > > Matthew Chao > > > > At 07:33 AM 9/18/2011, you wrote: > >> Hello, > >> I have finally gotten VMWare Fusion 4.0.1 working with the > virtual machines I used with VMWare Fusion 3. Everything went well > except for problems paying for it! I wonder if others have this > problem and if so what did i do wrong. > >> > >> I am using the latest version of Safari and Lion 10.7.1. I have > interact with all images set to always. I use DOM mode. The problem > is that Safari could not find the buttons to complete each stage of > the purchase. These buttons appear to be images with no alternate > text. In the end I had to make my purchase using Firefox on Windows > with the WindowEyes screen reader. This had no trouble finding the > relevant buttons. > >> > >> I have noticed similar problems on other web pages. Sometimes I > can find the buttons by using the item chooser which often seems to > show more web content than interacting with the html content. > >> > >> Have others had these problems and if so how have you gotten > round them? WOuld switching to Group mode help? Would turning off > cursor tracking help? > >> > >> Fusion 4 is certainly much faster than Fusion 3, especially > after Windows has booted. It is so good that I will be less > inhibited about using Windows when Safari lets me down! > >> > >> Best regards..... > >> > >> Paul Hopewell > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >> > >> or at the public Mail Archive: > >> . > >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > This email was scanned by VIPRE version 4.0.4194 when it was > sent, using definitions version 10511 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > This email was scanned by VIPRE version 4.0.4194 when it was sent, using definitions version 10512 From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Sep 18 17:08:05 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:08:05 +0100 Subject: Problems paying for VMWare Fusion 4.0.1! In-Reply-To: <0LRQ00IZV6AF2QY1@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> References: <6AEF8457-40BE-4C06-8DB9-F1FDAE361F94@hopewell.org.uk> <0LRQ0017R2NR0IH0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <0LRQ00IZV6AF2QY1@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Hi Matthew, I am pretty sure I left VO on for that upgrade question and reply. I only turned VO off when I heard the Windows start music. I also noticed that the DMG file contained an app "double click to upgrade from Fusion 3.x". However I did not notice this until after I had opened the VMWare.app. Paul On 18 Sep 2011, at 16:42, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Paul! Thanks for the help. Will give it a go. Am looking forward to a faster Fusion. > > By the way, should I leave VO on to get that question about upgrading the virtual machine? Thanks in advance. > > Matthew Chao > > > At 11:33 AM 9/18/2011, you wrote: >> Hi Matthew, >> I just copied the VMWare.app file from the DMG to my application folder and ran it. I had to enter the licence key. I then used the file menu to open the virtual machine I had previously used with Fusion 3. that opened a dialogue asking if I wanted to upgrade that virtual machine to which I replied yes. I then had to wait a while and eventually heard the Windows start up music. >> Good luck with the upgrade. >> >> Paul >> >> On 18 Sep 2011, at 15:23, Matthew Chao wrote: >> >> > Hi, Paul! I also used IE in Windows to purchase the upgrade. Didn't give Safari a thought, as I purchased it from work, and couldn't bring my MacBook Pro in. >> > >> > My question is: How do I upgrade once I downloaded the latest version? Haven't had a lot of time working on my MacBook Pro, so am still getting used to it. >> > >> > Matthew Chao >> > >> > At 07:33 AM 9/18/2011, you wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I have finally gotten VMWare Fusion 4.0.1 working with the virtual machines I used with VMWare Fusion 3. Everything went well except for problems paying for it! I wonder if others have this problem and if so what did i do wrong. >> >> >> >> I am using the latest version of Safari and Lion 10.7.1. I have interact with all images set to always. I use DOM mode. The problem is that Safari could not find the buttons to complete each stage of the purchase. These buttons appear to be images with no alternate text. In the end I had to make my purchase using Firefox on Windows with the WindowEyes screen reader. This had no trouble finding the relevant buttons. >> >> >> >> I have noticed similar problems on other web pages. Sometimes I can find the buttons by using the item chooser which often seems to show more web content than interacting with the html content. >> >> >> >> Have others had these problems and if so how have you gotten round them? WOuld switching to Group mode help? Would turning off cursor tracking help? >> >> >> >> Fusion 4 is certainly much faster than Fusion 3, especially after Windows has booted. It is so good that I will be less inhibited about using Windows when Safari lets me down! >> >> >> >> Best regards..... >> >> >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> >> . >> >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > This email was scanned by VIPRE version 4.0.4194 when it was sent, using definitions version 10511 >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> > >> > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> > >> > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> > . >> > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > >> > >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> > >> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > >> > >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > > > > This email was scanned by VIPRE version 4.0.4194 when it was sent, using definitions version 10512 > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lynne at mac-access.net Sun Sep 18 18:12:36 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:12:36 +0100 Subject: Problems paying for VMWare Fusion 4.0.1! In-Reply-To: References: <6AEF8457-40BE-4C06-8DB9-F1FDAE361F94@hopewell.org.uk> <0LRQ0017R2NR0IH0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <6A019621-F81F-4170-8772-2038E551B53E@mac-access.net> Paul There is an icon in the downloaded Fusion disk image to upgrade from Fusion 3. I think there's more to it than just running the app and copying it. On 18 Sep 2011, at 16:33, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hi Matthew, I just copied the VMWare.app file from the DMG to my application folder and ran it. I had to enter the licence key. I then used the file menu to open the virtual machine I had previously used with Fusion 3. that opened a dialogue asking if I wanted to upgrade that virtual machine to which I replied yes. I then had to wait a while and eventually heard the Windows start up music. Good luck with the upgrade. Paul On 18 Sep 2011, at 15:23, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Paul! I also used IE in Windows to purchase the upgrade. Didn't give Safari a thought, as I purchased it from work, and couldn't bring my MacBook Pro in. > > My question is: How do I upgrade once I downloaded the latest version? Haven't had a lot of time working on my MacBook Pro, so am still getting used to it. > > Matthew Chao > > At 07:33 AM 9/18/2011, you wrote: >> Hello, >> I have finally gotten VMWare Fusion 4.0.1 working with the virtual machines I used with VMWare Fusion 3. Everything went well except for problems paying for it! I wonder if others have this problem and if so what did i do wrong. >> >> I am using the latest version of Safari and Lion 10.7.1. I have interact with all images set to always. I use DOM mode. The problem is that Safari could not find the buttons to complete each stage of the purchase. These buttons appear to be images with no alternate text. In the end I had to make my purchase using Firefox on Windows with the WindowEyes screen reader. This had no trouble finding the relevant buttons. >> >> I have noticed similar problems on other web pages. Sometimes I can find the buttons by using the item chooser which often seems to show more web content than interacting with the html content. >> >> Have others had these problems and if so how have you gotten round them? WOuld switching to Group mode help? Would turning off cursor tracking help? >> >> Fusion 4 is certainly much faster than Fusion 3, especially after Windows has booted. It is so good that I will be less inhibited about using Windows when Safari lets me down! >> >> Best regards..... >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > > > > This email was scanned by VIPRE version 4.0.4194 when it was sent, using definitions version 10511 > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moriond at mac.com Sun Sep 18 19:45:29 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:45:29 -1000 Subject: Opening a .chm archive In-Reply-To: <62F340BD-B78C-44EC-AE0A-D362BD362562@mac-access.net> References: <2E233741-EC59-49EB-9346-6A5138FFAD0A@googlemail.com> <62F340BD-B78C-44EC-AE0A-D362BD362562@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <41F4DCA2-6252-4BC7-A915-A11361DC547D@mac.com> Hi Gordon, Try a tool called iCHM to read you CHM files: http://code.google.com/p/ichm/ Download the 1.4.3 version for Mac OS X 10.6 and above: iChm.1.4.3.zip There is also a CHM reader tool for the iPhone based on the same code that is supposed to be mostly accessible. You can check out the free Lite version to be sure: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ichm-lite-chm-reader/id299499859?mt=8 The Lite version will work if you only keep one CHM file at a time. HTH. I haven't used these tools myself, but some VoiceOver users have reported that these work. Cheers, Esther On Sep 18, 2011, at 01:33, Gordon Smith wrote: > I'm not sure you can. > > Gordon\ > On 18 Sep 2011, at 12:31, Gordon Keen wrote: > > Hi > > I have a book from the dark side in a .chm file which not unreasonably will not open on my mac book. Can anyone point me to a tool to open such files please. > > Thanks in advance. > > G > > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Sun Sep 18 21:20:46 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:20:46 -0500 Subject: copying audio cd's Message-ID: asked tihs before but never got a response. if at foist ya don't succeed and all that. anyone know of a way to copy audio cd's to some form of compressed/image form? ya can't do it via disc utility... i know simply burns does it, but can't figure out a way to open the resulting .bin file... From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sun Sep 18 21:52:50 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:52:50 -0300 Subject: TuneIn radio. Message-ID: <19A90794A86C41069D833606B145E2A0@MainComputer> Hi Folks: Is there a tunein radio app that works as well on a Mac is it does on an iPhone? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6474 (20110918) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Sep 19 00:32:26 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:32:26 +1000 Subject: Installed my New AirPrint printer Message-ID: I suppose the best couple of words to start off this email with are "It works!" Its really nice to be able to print from all my computers easily - including my Macbook and iMac - to a central printer and able to send faxes too! I'm aware that network printers have been around for quite some time but this is the first I've ever owned. I can also "Scan" but I've not tried this feature yet. Airprit from the iPad works nicely it seems though its a shame that this function is app dependent and not available everywhere, for example Airprit it would seem is only available in Mail, Safari etc. The model of printer I purchased is the HP 8500+ multi function printer, won't go on about all the details here suffice to say that this printer is incredibly well built and its big! so if you get one of these then be sure to clear a good space on your desktop or printer platform. From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Sep 19 02:32:09 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane trethowan) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:32:09 +1000 Subject: TuneIn radio. In-Reply-To: <19A90794A86C41069D833606B145E2A0@MainComputer> References: <19A90794A86C41069D833606B145E2A0@MainComputer> Message-ID: <4E769B99.8010008@internode.on.net> don't use this sort of thing now given that I have a "Stand-alone" Internet radio solution but I think the closest thing you'll get is to use Itunes. When I regularly listened to radio on the mac I found the best solution for me was to save the urls of stations I wanted to listen to in playlists and use the VLC media player as VLC seemed to accept just about every streaming media format I could throw at it, think it even handled Windows Media AND IT EVEN WORKED WITH Real Audio streams so I could dump that Real Audio player which I've never really liked anyway . On 19/09/2011 6:52 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Is there a tunein radio app that works as well on a Mac is it does on an iPhone? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6474 (20110918) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Mon Sep 19 09:36:05 2011 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:36:05 +0100 Subject: Opening a .chm archive In-Reply-To: <41F4DCA2-6252-4BC7-A915-A11361DC547D@mac.com> References: <2E233741-EC59-49EB-9346-6A5138FFAD0A@googlemail.com> <62F340BD-B78C-44EC-AE0A-D362BD362562@mac-access.net> <41F4DCA2-6252-4BC7-A915-A11361DC547D@mac.com> Message-ID: <0EC1B433-2FF5-40C3-9E8C-4831332D7F2C@googlemail.com> I might of known you would have the answer, what a sweetheart! I'll give them a go thanks. Cheers G From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. On 18 Sep 2011, at 19:45, Esther wrote: > Hi Gordon, > > Try a tool called iCHM to read you CHM files: > http://code.google.com/p/ichm/ > Download the 1.4.3 version for Mac OS X 10.6 and above: iChm.1.4.3.zip There is also a CHM reader tool for the iPhone based on the same code that is supposed to be mostly accessible. You can check out the free Lite version to be sure: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ichm-lite-chm-reader/id299499859?mt=8 > The Lite version will work if you only keep one CHM file at a time. > > HTH. I haven't used these tools myself, but some VoiceOver users have reported that these work. > > Cheers, > > Esther From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Mon Sep 19 11:26:55 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:26:55 -0300 Subject: TuneIn radio. References: <19A90794A86C41069D833606B145E2A0@MainComputer> <4E769B99.8010008@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Dane: Have you found a way to configure the network settings on the BoomBox without sighted assistance? That is one of the weaknesses with that animal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane trethowan" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:32 PM Subject: Re: TuneIn radio. > don't use this sort of thing now given that I have a "Stand-alone" > Internet radio solution but I think the closest thing you'll get is to use > Itunes. > > When I regularly listened to radio on the mac I found the best solution > for me was to save the urls of stations I wanted to listen to in playlists > and use the VLC media player as VLC seemed to accept just about every > streaming media format I could throw at it, think it even handled Windows > Media AND IT EVEN WORKED WITH Real Audio streams so I could dump that Real > Audio player which I've never really liked anyway . > > > > On 19/09/2011 6:52 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> Hi Folks: >> >> Is there a tunein radio app that works as well on a Mac is it does on an >> iPhone? >> >> Thanks all over the place gang. >> >> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy >> Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 6474 (20110918) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From grtdane at internode.on.net Mon Sep 19 11:44:18 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:44:18 +1000 Subject: TuneIn radio. In-Reply-To: References: <19A90794A86C41069D833606B145E2A0@MainComputer> <4E769B99.8010008@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <34077FB2-82EB-4E03-8700-6A44FEE0047C@internode.on.net> That is just impossible I'm afraid and nothing can be done about that, its like for example a Windows computer running a boot manager before the Screen reader starts. Yep its a problem however! once its set as you know, the memory lasts about a week so keep the thing powered. On 19/09/2011, at 8:26 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Dane: > > Have you found a way to configure the network settings on the BoomBox without sighted assistance? That is one of the weaknesses with that animal. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane trethowan" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:32 PM > Subject: Re: TuneIn radio. > > >> don't use this sort of thing now given that I have a "Stand-alone" Internet radio solution but I think the closest thing you'll get is to use Itunes. >> >> When I regularly listened to radio on the mac I found the best solution for me was to save the urls of stations I wanted to listen to in playlists and use the VLC media player as VLC seemed to accept just about every streaming media format I could throw at it, think it even handled Windows Media AND IT EVEN WORKED WITH Real Audio streams so I could dump that Real Audio player which I've never really liked anyway . >> >> >> >> On 19/09/2011 6:52 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> Is there a tunein radio app that works as well on a Mac is it does on an iPhone? >>> >>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>> >>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6474 (20110918) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From support at mac-access.net Mon Sep 19 13:59:24 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:59:24 +0100 Subject: Our Sister Group Message-ID: <4E195787-5F81-4384-B822-0D643EB183CD@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I believe I sent you a link yesterday which was erroneous. My apologies for that error; my mind was obviously elsewhere. To join our new system group, and avoid any further discussion of Windows on this list, please send an email to: and forget about the previous link which I obviously made a hash of. If you need to discuss this further please contact us off list on the support address, Lynne From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Mon Sep 19 14:04:41 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Thejazzden) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:04:41 +0100 Subject: Labelling edit buttons in Window-Eyes References: <6F604A42-24CF-4693-BBB4-8A11522F14E4@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: Hello Listers and apologies if this is off-topic. > My website provider for our business has just changed the WYSIWYG editor they use as it incorporates many new features. Unfortunately this is now inaccessible on some of the fields. For instance, I can 'see' links that a sighted person can't (they somehow must underlay what is meant to be seen), and edit boxes do not show up properly. When I manage (after a bit of trial and error) to get into an Edit Product' field, what shows up to a sighted person is a single box with two small buttons - 'Edit' and 'Delete', but all I see is still the Edit Product link. > In the old editor there were separate buttons for Edit, Copy and Delete. > Is there an easy way of a sighted person highlighting the individual button and then getting this labelled in Window-Eyes? I don't know at this stage if the buttons are global or whether their position changes depending on the page you are on? > I am asking my provider if there's any way they can give me a choice of using the old or new editor, but if not, where do I go from here? Any suggestions welcomed. > It's difficult giving a page link for security reasons as you have to be logged in, but I would gladly provide a screenshot if anyone might be able to help here. > As said, if this is off-topic I apologise, so please reply off-list to me. > Thanks in advance. > Dennis. From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Sep 19 15:49:33 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:49:33 -0700 Subject: Labelling edit buttons in Window-Eyes In-Reply-To: References: <6F604A42-24CF-4693-BBB4-8A11522F14E4@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: why not just use safari to do this? It might work on your provider's website for what ever you need to do. Take care.. On Sep 19, 2011, at 6:04 AM, Thejazzden wrote: > Hello Listers and apologies if this is off-topic. >> My website provider for our business has just changed the WYSIWYG editor they use as it incorporates many new features. Unfortunately this is now inaccessible on some of the fields. For instance, I can 'see' links that a sighted person can't (they somehow must underlay what is meant to be seen), and edit boxes do not show up properly. When I manage (after a bit of trial and error) to get into an Edit Product' field, what shows up to a sighted person is a single box with two small buttons - 'Edit' and 'Delete', but all I see is still the Edit Product link. >> In the old editor there were separate buttons for Edit, Copy and Delete. >> Is there an easy way of a sighted person highlighting the individual button and then getting this labelled in Window-Eyes? I don't know at this stage if the buttons are global or whether their position changes depending on the page you are on? >> I am asking my provider if there's any way they can give me a choice of using the old or new editor, but if not, where do I go from here? Any suggestions welcomed. >> It's difficult giving a page link for security reasons as you have to be logged in, but I would gladly provide a screenshot if anyone might be able to help here. >> As said, if this is off-topic I apologise, so please reply off-list to me. >> Thanks in advance. >> Dennis. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Mon Sep 19 16:03:35 2011 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Thejazzden) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:03:35 +0100 Subject: Labelling edit buttons in Window-Eyes In-Reply-To: References: <6F604A42-24CF-4693-BBB4-8A11522F14E4@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: <7255FD38-A817-4042-9AFD-2AF349089653@thejazzden.org.uk> Hi Sarah, realising this is off topic but as you mentioned safari. :) I did try Safari and the 'edit product' link does absolutely zilch. It used to work in the old editor, but the layout of the page didn't show up as well as in the unmentionable OS which is why I tend not to use Safari for editing work on my website;. OK, topic well and truly closed on this list please folks as I don't want to be banned or have worse happen to me. :) Dennis. Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone On 19 Sep 2011, at 15:49, Sarah Alawami wrote: > why not just use safari to do this? It might work on your provider's website for what ever you need to do. > > Take care.. > On Sep 19, 2011, at 6:04 AM, Thejazzden wrote: > >> Hello Listers and apologies if this is off-topic. >>> My website provider for our business has just changed the WYSIWYG editor they use as it incorporates many new features. Unfortunately this is now inaccessible on some of the fields. For instance, I can 'see' links that a sighted person can't (they somehow must underlay what is meant to be seen), and edit boxes do not show up properly. When I manage (after a bit of trial and error) to get into an Edit Product' field, what shows up to a sighted person is a single box with two small buttons - 'Edit' and 'Delete', but all I see is still the Edit Product link. >>> In the old editor there were separate buttons for Edit, Copy and Delete. >>> Is there an easy way of a sighted person highlighting the individual button and then getting this labelled in Window-Eyes? I don't know at this stage if the buttons are global or whether their position changes depending on the page you are on? >>> I am asking my provider if there's any way they can give me a choice of using the old or new editor, but if not, where do I go from here? Any suggestions welcomed. >>> It's difficult giving a page link for security reasons as you have to be logged in, but I would gladly provide a screenshot if anyone might be able to help here. >>> As said, if this is off-topic I apologise, so please reply off-list to me. >>> Thanks in advance. >>> Dennis. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Mon Sep 19 16:08:07 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 01:08:07 +1000 Subject: Opening a .chm archive In-Reply-To: <2E233741-EC59-49EB-9346-6A5138FFAD0A@googlemail.com> References: <2E233741-EC59-49EB-9346-6A5138FFAD0A@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <6046F333-F3DA-4B6A-AD0F-A1D6B127A491@bigpond.net.au> All. CHM is a compressed HTML files. 7zip which I am not sure is available on the MAC will uncompress these files into it's native HTML file format. The tool which has been already posted looks interesting. Sean On 18/09/2011, at 9:31 PM, Gordon Keen wrote: > Hi > > I have a book from the dark side in a .chm file which not unreasonably will not open on my mac book. Can anyone point me to a tool to open such files please. > > Thanks in advance. > > G > > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From desiandcandy at q.com Mon Sep 19 18:15:48 2011 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:15:48 -0700 Subject: System UI Server? Message-ID: <24DC3B7F-4018-4D86-975D-1A16406158FB@q.com> When I started up my iMac this morning, besides the "VoiceOver Is Running" message, I also heard System UI Server. Why was this announced, and what does it mean? Thanks in advance! Desi From zkline at speedpost.net Mon Sep 19 18:22:00 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:22:00 -0700 Subject: System UI Server? In-Reply-To: <24DC3B7F-4018-4D86-975D-1A16406158FB@q.com> References: <24DC3B7F-4018-4D86-975D-1A16406158FB@q.com> Message-ID: Hi Desi, THis is a background process which runs as a part of the normal login sequence, I believe. It was just announced because of the position VoiceOver happened to have in the startup sequence, and isn't important or worth worrying about. Just alt-tab and the system will work normally. You won't see the UI server again. Best, Zack. On Sep 19, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Desi Noller wrote: > When I started up my iMac this morning, besides the "VoiceOver Is Running" message, I also heard System UI Server. Why was this announced, and what does it mean? Thanks in advance! > > Desi > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From desiandcandy at q.com Mon Sep 19 18:36:15 2011 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:36:15 -0700 Subject: System UI Server? In-Reply-To: References: <24DC3B7F-4018-4D86-975D-1A16406158FB@q.com> Message-ID: Hi Zack, Thanks so much! I had never heard that before, and couldn't imagine what it meant! Glad nothing weird is going on! :) Desi On Sep 19, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Desi, > THis is a background process which runs as a part of the normal login sequence, I believe. It was just announced because of the position VoiceOver happened to have in the startup sequence, and isn't important or worth worrying about. Just alt-tab and the system will work normally. You won't see the UI server again. > Best, > Zack. > On Sep 19, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Desi Noller wrote: > >> When I started up my iMac this morning, besides the "VoiceOver Is Running" message, I also heard System UI Server. Why was this announced, and what does it mean? Thanks in advance! >> >> Desi >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From caitlyn.furness at gmail.com Mon Sep 19 19:12:30 2011 From: caitlyn.furness at gmail.com (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:12:30 -0400 Subject: clickable? Message-ID: <4306BA57-49F4-46EA-9F1D-B51612A13411@gmail.com> Hi, While looking up some nutritional information on www.skinnycow.com the other day, the information I needed was under a link which was labeled nutritional information followed by the tag, clickable. I tried vo space on it, enter, option enter, basically everything I could think of to get the darn thing to work and nothing happened. I asked a sighted friend to go to this site and look up the info for me and she said that when you physically click a mouse on the link(which isn't a tradiational link), a little box pops up on the screen, and it actually says "click to view" on the screen next to the link. So, how do we accomplish this with voiceover? Thanks, Caitlyn From zkline at speedpost.net Mon Sep 19 19:22:59 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:22:59 -0700 Subject: clickable? In-Reply-To: <4306BA57-49F4-46EA-9F1D-B51612A13411@gmail.com> References: <4306BA57-49F4-46EA-9F1D-B51612A13411@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7B8E65B0-6E29-4606-97F3-98F927A1EAEC@speedpost.net> Hi Caitlyn, Did you try vo-shift-space and/or just physically clicking with your mouse or trackpad? You might need to do vo-cmd-f5 to get this to work, but either of those methods is another one worth trying. Best, Zack. On Sep 19, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > Hi, > While looking up some nutritional information on www.skinnycow.com the other day, the information I needed was under a link which was labeled nutritional information followed by the tag, clickable. I tried vo space on it, enter, option enter, basically everything I could think of to get the darn thing to work and nothing happened. I asked a sighted friend to go to this site and look up the info for me and she said that when you physically click a mouse on the link(which isn't a tradiational link), a little box pops up on the screen, and it actually says "click to view" on the screen next to the link. So, how do we accomplish this with voiceover? > > Thanks, > Caitlyn > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Mon Sep 19 19:44:31 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:44:31 +0100 Subject: Labelling edit buttons in Window-Eyes In-Reply-To: References: <6F604A42-24CF-4693-BBB4-8A11522F14E4@thejazzden.org.uk> Message-ID: Dennis Tis has nothing to do with Mac, so please do not send this sort of stuff to this group. Lynne From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Sep 19 19:50:59 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:50:59 +0100 Subject: radio streams in iTunes Message-ID: <1E264CAD-3750-48CC-958B-964797974677@computing.dcu.ie> Evening peoples, I have been playing around with the radio streams in iTunes. However, there are probably 99.9999% that I won't listen to. Is there any way to create a sort of "presets" or "favourites" list of radio stations? I don't seem to be able to do any kind of copy-to-another-playlist or anything with them. Cheers D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Mon Sep 19 22:50:29 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:50:29 +0100 Subject: Tunnelblick update Message-ID: Hi all, As some on list may remember I had reason to post a long time ago about my search for an accessible open vpn client. Now while (to the best of my knowledge) accessibility for the GUI-based clients hasn't noticeably improved, one application, tunnelblick, has made a jump forward and is now perfectly usable *if* you're prepared to use applescript. While it's true that the connections can't be started easily from the gui you can start them now through applescript. I've been playing with this a bit over the past day, and I now have almost complete control over the connections. I paste a sample script below: tell application "Tunnelblick" get configurations connect "openvpn" end tell Note I've just called the config "openvpn" for convenience here. There are many other entries in the tunnelblick dictionary and its home page is at: http://code.google.com/p/tunnelblick/ This may be of absolutely no use to anyone, but it's no harm to have it in the list archives anyway. D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From moriond at mac.com Tue Sep 20 01:20:14 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:20:14 -1000 Subject: radio streams in iTunes In-Reply-To: <1E264CAD-3750-48CC-958B-964797974677@computing.dcu.ie> References: <1E264CAD-3750-48CC-958B-964797974677@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <919DFD9A-8D4B-4E40-889E-BF1DA529FFE2@mac.com> Hi D?nal, The radio streams in iTunes lack support for the kind of context menu options you have with music and podcast tracks. What I do is go down the list of radio streams and select/highlight the ones that I want, then I use the Command-Shift-N shortcut to create a "New Playlist from Selection". You should be able to consolidate different radio stream playlists that you create this way using copy and paste (e.g., create a few different playlists by category, then put them into a master playlist of radio streams by choosing individual playlists, doing a select all (Command-A) of their contents and copy with Command-C, and then switching to the master playlist in your source table and doing a Command-V to paste into the songs table entries.) You can also create composite playlists by using smart playlists. For example, create a new smart playlist with Command-Option-N and use for your rules that contents match any of the criteria of belonging to your stream playlist 1, stream playlist 2, etc. (where you set the first keyword pop up button to "Playlist" and you can leave the second pop up button set to "Contains", then type in the name in the text box.) If you name all your playlists with "Stream" as part of the name, having a rule like "Playlist" "contains" "stream", where the first two arguments are pop up buttons that you set, and the last is a text entry, your Master smart playlist for radio streams can contain all the streams that you assembled by hand in smaller lists. Of course, you can also always make this into a regular playlist by selecting the smart playlist, navigating to the associated songs table (e.g. with Command-Option-t or just by tabbing or by using your arrow keys with QuickNav, etc.), then selecting all (Command-A) and using Command-Shift-N to generate a new (regular) playlist from the selection. (This precaution guarantees that if you somehow later edit the criteria for membership in your Master streams smart playlist that alters its contents, you'll still be left with a usable regular playlist.) Of course, you can also follow the various rules for non-contiguous selection of long lists of entries, or holding down your shift key to select a block of entries, but you can assemble your playlist of radio streams from snippets if you like. The key is using the Command-Shift-N shortcut to get them into a playlist to begin with. Then you can copy and paste, and assemble larger playlists either manually or using smart playlist rules. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 19, 2011, at 08:50, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Evening peoples, > > I have been playing around with the radio streams in iTunes. However, there are probably 99.9999% that I won't listen to. Is there any way to create a sort of "presets" or "favourites" list of radio stations? I don't seem to be able to do any kind of copy-to-another-playlist or anything with them. > > Cheers > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > From moriond at mac.com Tue Sep 20 02:01:10 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:01:10 -1000 Subject: Tunnelblick update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18F02E2E-5106-43C5-924D-5342BABF4469@mac.com> Hi D?nal, I'll just point out that once you have made an AppleScript, you can place it in your account's Library/Scripts folder, and then access it from the Scripts menu on your status menu bar (with either Control-F8 or VO-M twice), if you have checked "Show Script menu in menu bar" under the General tab of the preferences menu for the AppleScript Editor. You can also choose to save the AppleScript as an application. In either case, the net result is that you can use the AppleScript in a GUI-based environment. In fact, you can also put an AppleScript wrapper around shell scripts so that you can access them from the GUI environment without having to open Terminal. As an example of this, I recall that someone (on another list) was looking for a command-line tool to perform batch conversions of PDF to text, and Tim Kilburn pointed him to a shell tool named pdftotext at: http://www.bluem.net/en/mac/others/ (Note, this tool is not for converting PDF graphics files that you've scanned for OCR, but rather, the sort of PDF documents that you can read in Preview). Instead of using this from Terminal, I was able to make this into an AppleScript using "do shell script". The AppleScript worked with the executable script that was installed in /usr/local/bin/pdftotext and looked like this: ---Cut Here--- (* Use pdftotext to create a text version of the selected PDF file Created 17 May 2011 *) on run tell application "Finder" set chosenFile to the selection as alias end tell do shell script "/usr/local/bin/pdftotext " & quoted form of POSIX path of chosenFile end run After compiling (with Command+K), I could select files in Finder, and run the AppleScript (with Command+R) to convert files entirely from the GUI. (Of course, in general you must know enough to make sure that such scripts that you download are made executable, and are in your default path, but these are common concepts for unix and linux systems that have simple commands to implement.) I'm pleased that Tunnelblick now supports AppleScript. Incidentally, does anyone know how the developer of the Radium Mac OS X app managed to make that app's status menu bar icon accessible? The results of opening it from either by double tapping the icon in the Dock (with Trackpad Commander on) or by using the keyboard shortcut to open the app (that you can activate by bringing up the preferences menu when the app is running, but with no windows open, if you check the box for enabling a shortcut to open the app) appears to be just the same as when a sighted person clicks on the status menu bar icon. I fooled around with the trial version of Radium from Macupdate, and checked on this with others. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 19, 2011, at 11:50, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi all, > > As some on list may remember I had reason to post a long time ago about my search for an accessible open vpn client. > > Now while (to the best of my knowledge) accessibility for the GUI-based clients hasn't noticeably improved, one application, tunnelblick, has made a jump forward and is now perfectly usable *if* you're prepared to use applescript. While it's true that the connections can't be started easily from the gui you can start them now through applescript. I've been playing with this a bit over the past day, and I now have almost complete control over the connections. I paste a sample script below: > > tell application "Tunnelblick" > get configurations > connect "openvpn" > end tell > > Note I've just called the config "openvpn" for convenience here. > > There are many other entries in the tunnelblick dictionary and its home page is at: > > http://code.google.com/p/tunnelblick/ > > This may be of absolutely no use to anyone, but it's no harm to have it in the list archives anyway. > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Tue Sep 20 02:20:32 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:20:32 -0500 Subject: Help with a apple script Message-ID: <7F85FDB5-FD62-4669-B818-4BC6622F629C@swbell.net> First of all let me say hello to the list. I am a brand new user to the mac. I own a mac pro laptop now and I have so many questions. For starters I need help or have a question about a script I heard about. I heard that there is a script for telling the time and date as well as for unread emails. One shortcut key supposedly is cmd + t and cmd +u. I do not see those scripts on my system and don't understand where to get it or how to use it if I have it. Can someone tell me what I need to do or how I can activate that script or for that matter if I in fact have that script. I know I will ask a lot of questions and I apologize up front. I have read a ton of help files and such and well there is so much to learn. I am usually a or was a windows user for many years so this is a change. Oh yes, can someone tell me how I would know if I have a track pad? Thanks in advance and I look forward to learning and being a member of this list. Thanks again, Mike From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 04:01:18 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:01:18 -0400 Subject: Help with a apple script References: <7F85FDB5-FD62-4669-B818-4BC6622F629C@swbell.net> Message-ID: <32D3FDF9645748E19FAF2D670F724787@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hello Michael, This is one of the keyboard commander defaults. In vo utility you will need to select keyboard commander and make certain that the "allow voiceOver to be controlled with Applescripts" box is checked under the general tab. If you actually want to peruse that script, its a rather deep path. Probably the easiest way to locate it is to edit the "t" entry of the keyboard commander and copy the last spoken text to your clipboard. HTH. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: michael maslo To: mac-access at mac-access.net Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 9:20 PM Subject: Help with a apple script First of all let me say hello to the list. I am a brand new user to the mac. I own a mac pro laptop now and I have so many questions. For starters I need help or have a question about a script I heard about. I heard that there is a script for telling the time and date as well as for unread emails. One shortcut key supposedly is cmd + t and cmd +u. I do not see those scripts on my system and don't understand where to get it or how to use it if I have it. Can someone tell me what I need to do or how I can activate that script or for that matter if I in fact have that script. I know I will ask a lot of questions and I apologize up front. I have read a ton of help files and such and well there is so much to learn. I am usually a or was a windows user for many years so this is a change. Oh yes, can someone tell me how I would know if I have a track pad? Thanks in advance and I look forward to learning and being a member of this list. Thanks again, Mike <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Sep 20 07:19:29 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:19:29 +0200 Subject: Help with a apple script In-Reply-To: <7F85FDB5-FD62-4669-B818-4BC6622F629C@swbell.net> References: <7F85FDB5-FD62-4669-B818-4BC6622F629C@swbell.net> Message-ID: Hello Mike, So you finally made it to this list! On 20 Sep 2011, at 03:20, michael maslo wrote: > > > For starters I need help or have a question about a script I heard about. > > I heard that there is a script for telling the time and date as well as for unread emails. > One shortcut key supposedly is cmd + t and cmd +u. > In fact, the short cuts are Right Option key plus T and Right Option key plus U. You need to go into VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8) and enable the Keyboard Commander which you'll find under the Commanders category. > > > Oh yes, can someone tell me how I would know if I have a track pad? You have a trackpad since you have a MacBook Pro. All Mac laptops have a trackpad which replaces the mouse. You also have a Trackpad Commander which will allow you to operate your MacBook Pro using gestures. The trackpad is that rectangle below the space bar, and pressing it will perform a mouse click. Cheers, Anne From support at mac-access.net Tue Sep 20 09:21:28 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:21:28 +0100 Subject: New Member Welcome Message-ID: <34E6739A-23F1-4AA8-BE07-F14A51FB7339@mac-access.net> Hello everybody I apologise for the belated nature of the welcome; but I'm not around as much as usual just at the moment owing to difficult circumstances here. It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that tradition, we are delighted to welcome: Mike Maslo to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access at mac-access.net a pleasant, friendly and worthwhile place to be. In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with advanced skills. 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If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, or James Austin, and we will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience. Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount. If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a listing of the books available please visit: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha Lynne From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Tue Sep 20 15:55:25 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:55:25 +0100 Subject: Jail break iPhone - what does it mean? Message-ID: Hello, The GPS on my iPhone 3GS is becoming unreliable. I have tried the recommended reset options but they don't help. I have an external bluetooth GPS device but I understand that I need to jail break the iPhone and add some extra software to get this to work. What does it mean to Jail break an iPhone? Are there any undesirable consequences? Is it a risky thing to do? Many thanks for any tips. Paul Hopewell From roger.firman at btinternet.com Tue Sep 20 16:03:05 2011 From: roger.firman at btinternet.com (Roger Firman) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:03:05 +0100 Subject: Jail break iPhone - what does it mean? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Paul, I am no expert in this field whatsoever. However, I think it implies making your device ready to receive more applications but whether it will make the necessary repairs, perhaps someone else can advise. Regards, Roger. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 17:40:20 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:40:20 -0700 Subject: Jail break iPhone - what does it mean? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6012FB8A-5018-4866-B774-2C71792AB283@gmail.com> That basically means you don't have any restrictions. Apple places restrictions hwere in you can for example only download apps from the itunes app store or it shuts off the voice memos app while you are getting a phone call. When you jail break you can download apps from anyware but cida is used most often and there are a multitude of apps. check them out or some of them at http://applevis.com. Take care all. On Sep 20, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Roger Firman wrote: > Dear Paul, > > I am no expert in this field whatsoever. However, I think it implies > making your device ready to receive more applications but whether it > will make the necessary repairs, perhaps someone else can advise. > > Regards, > > Roger. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Tue Sep 20 17:49:54 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:49:54 +0100 Subject: Jail break iPhone - what does it mean? In-Reply-To: <6012FB8A-5018-4866-B774-2C71792AB283@gmail.com> References: <6012FB8A-5018-4866-B774-2C71792AB283@gmail.com> Message-ID: <633E4498-5422-4740-9860-050F5ADC518C@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Sarah and Roger, that all sounds goodness. Are there any downsides or risks to jail breaking an iPhone? Best regards.... Paul On 20 Sep 2011, at 17:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: > That basically means you don't have any restrictions. Apple places restrictions hwere in you can for example only download apps from the itunes app store or it shuts off the voice memos app while you are getting a phone call. When you jail break you can download apps from anyware but cida is used most often and there are a multitude of apps. check them out or some of them at http://applevis.com. > > Take care all. > On Sep 20, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Roger Firman wrote: > >> Dear Paul, >> >> I am no expert in this field whatsoever. However, I think it implies >> making your device ready to receive more applications but whether it >> will make the necessary repairs, perhaps someone else can advise. >> >> Regards, >> >> Roger. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Tue Sep 20 18:01:25 2011 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:01:25 -0500 Subject: LED Displays Versus LCD Displays Message-ID: <201109201701.p8KH1Pqb056657@x.it.okstate.edu> One other good thing in favor of LED screens is that they are the most energy efficient displays presently available. LCD screens are basically a transparency that is electronically addressable to make tiny dots on that transparency opaque, red, blue, green or combinations for all the other colors. To see it, there must be a solid square of light behind that and those can draw power even if the screen is black. I don't know if the curtain mode on the Mac turns off the back light, but if it doesn't, it is just heating things up and wasting energy. Grant it, we are not talking about huge amounts of energy, but when batteries are involved, it is significant as to how long it will run on a charge. One thing I am curious about is how bad the screen flicker is on a LED display. LED's don't have any natural persistence. LCD's just aren't fast enough to keep from having persistence and the old-fashioned CRT displays had natural persistence that somewhat mitigated the flicker. Sorry if that is all a bit off topic. Martin "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" writes: > Hello Donal > > Those LED displays are excellent. I have one here although it isn't an > Apple model. And yes, they do handle high definition video and intense > graphics much better than the old LCD displays do. From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Tue Sep 20 18:05:53 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (Mike Maslo) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:05:53 -0500 Subject: Help with a apple script In-Reply-To: References: <7F85FDB5-FD62-4669-B818-4BC6622F629C@swbell.net> Message-ID: Yes finally got a Mac! I did turn apple scripts on key commander and the cmd t and cmd u worked once but then when I tried again it did not work Mike. Why would this be and how would I fix it? Is there a way to tell if I did it right ? Also where can I go for a list of other shortcuts such as these? Maslo Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:19 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Mike, > > So you finally made it to this list! > > On 20 Sep 2011, at 03:20, michael maslo wrote: >> >> >> For starters I need help or have a question about a script I heard about. >> >> I heard that there is a script for telling the time and date as well as for unread emails. >> One shortcut key supposedly is cmd + t and cmd +u. >> > In fact, the short cuts are Right Option key plus T and Right Option key plus U. You need to go into VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8) and enable the Keyboard Commander which you'll find under the Commanders category. >> >> >> Oh yes, can someone tell me how I would know if I have a track pad? > You have a trackpad since you have a MacBook Pro. All Mac laptops have a trackpad which replaces the mouse. You also have a Trackpad Commander which will allow you to operate your MacBook Pro using gestures. The trackpad is that rectangle below the space bar, and pressing it will perform a mouse click. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Sep 20 18:23:06 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:23:06 +0200 Subject: Help with a apple script In-Reply-To: References: <7F85FDB5-FD62-4669-B818-4BC6622F629C@swbell.net> Message-ID: <310C3405-13F1-4248-A8F8-685F4ADBFA6D@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Mike, Remember that you have to use the right-hand Option key for Keyboard Commander. Actually, you can choose to use the left-hand Option key, but the default one is on the right. You turn Keyboard Commander on and off with VO-Shift-k and you can find the existing commands by opening VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8). Go to the Commanders category, select Keyboard Commander and navigate right to Keyboard Commander Table. You can also add your own short cuts to this list by clicking on the Add button. Cheers, Anne On 20 Sep 2011, at 19:05, Mike Maslo wrote: > Yes finally got a Mac! > > I did turn apple scripts on key commander and the cmd t and cmd u worked once but then when I tried again it did not work > > Mike. > > Why would this be and how would I fix it? > > Is there a way to tell if I did it right ? Also where can I go for a list of other shortcuts such as these? Maslo > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:19 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Mike, >> >> So you finally made it to this list! >> >> On 20 Sep 2011, at 03:20, michael maslo wrote: >>> >>> >>> For starters I need help or have a question about a script I heard about. >>> >>> I heard that there is a script for telling the time and date as well as for unread emails. >>> One shortcut key supposedly is cmd + t and cmd +u. >>> >> In fact, the short cuts are Right Option key plus T and Right Option key plus U. You need to go into VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8) and enable the Keyboard Commander which you'll find under the Commanders category. >>> >>> >>> Oh yes, can someone tell me how I would know if I have a track pad? >> You have a trackpad since you have a MacBook Pro. All Mac laptops have a trackpad which replaces the mouse. You also have a Trackpad Commander which will allow you to operate your MacBook Pro using gestures. The trackpad is that rectangle below the space bar, and pressing it will perform a mouse click. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 18:54:58 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:54:58 -0700 Subject: Jail break iPhone - what does it mean? In-Reply-To: <633E4498-5422-4740-9860-050F5ADC518C@hopewell.org.uk> References: <6012FB8A-5018-4866-B774-2C71792AB283@gmail.com> <633E4498-5422-4740-9860-050F5ADC518C@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <03D7BA4B-4BE9-4078-8C3D-D843E9EFF516@gmail.com> yeah. It voids your apple care if they find out you did it. I really don't know wy since it is now legal but tha'ts for another day and another set of lists. Another thing is you never know what you are going ot download so malware can probably happen. I'venot heard of it but that does not mean it's not out there. Take care all. On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Sarah and Roger, > that all sounds goodness. Are there any downsides or risks to jail breaking an iPhone? > Best regards.... > > Paul > On 20 Sep 2011, at 17:40, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> That basically means you don't have any restrictions. Apple places restrictions hwere in you can for example only download apps from the itunes app store or it shuts off the voice memos app while you are getting a phone call. When you jail break you can download apps from anyware but cida is used most often and there are a multitude of apps. check them out or some of them at http://applevis.com. >> >> Take care all. >> On Sep 20, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Roger Firman wrote: >> >>> Dear Paul, >>> >>> I am no expert in this field whatsoever. However, I think it implies >>> making your device ready to receive more applications but whether it >>> will make the necessary repairs, perhaps someone else can advise. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Roger. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Tue Sep 20 20:39:39 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:39:39 +0100 Subject: Jail break iPhone - what does it mean? In-Reply-To: <03D7BA4B-4BE9-4078-8C3D-D843E9EFF516@gmail.com> References: <6012FB8A-5018-4866-B774-2C71792AB283@gmail.com> <633E4498-5422-4740-9860-050F5ADC518C@hopewell.org.uk> <03D7BA4B-4BE9-4078-8C3D-D843E9EFF516@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1EF7CCFB-3493-4A41-833A-52383BBCFCE4@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Sarah, thanks for that. If I did Jail break and it all went horribly wrong is it possible to recover the original iPhone e.g. from a prior backup so that no one knows it was ever jail broken? Does Jail break affect your SIM card or your mobile network? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Tue Sep 20 21:29:46 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (Mike Maslo) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:29:46 -0500 Subject: Help with a apple script In-Reply-To: <310C3405-13F1-4248-A8F8-685F4ADBFA6D@anarchie.org.uk> References: <7F85FDB5-FD62-4669-B818-4BC6622F629C@swbell.net> <310C3405-13F1-4248-A8F8-685F4ADBFA6D@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <1EBB1B9A-6E60-4660-AD5C-F0A8B8D6E3F8@swbell.net> Ok thanks for that However isn't cmd t for date? I have to use right cmd key to make it work? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Mike, > > Remember that you have to use the right-hand Option key for Keyboard Commander. Actually, you can choose to use the left-hand Option key, but the default one is on the right. > > You turn Keyboard Commander on and off with VO-Shift-k and you can find the existing commands by opening VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8). Go to the Commanders category, select Keyboard Commander and navigate right to Keyboard Commander Table. > > You can also add your own short cuts to this list by clicking on the Add button. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 20 Sep 2011, at 19:05, Mike Maslo wrote: > >> Yes finally got a Mac! >> >> I did turn apple scripts on key commander and the cmd t and cmd u worked once but then when I tried again it did not work >> >> Mike. >> >> Why would this be and how would I fix it? >> >> Is there a way to tell if I did it right ? Also where can I go for a list of other shortcuts such as these? Maslo >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:19 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Mike, >>> >>> So you finally made it to this list! >>> >>> On 20 Sep 2011, at 03:20, michael maslo wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> For starters I need help or have a question about a script I heard about. >>>> >>>> I heard that there is a script for telling the time and date as well as for unread emails. >>>> One shortcut key supposedly is cmd + t and cmd +u. >>>> >>> In fact, the short cuts are Right Option key plus T and Right Option key plus U. You need to go into VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8) and enable the Keyboard Commander which you'll find under the Commanders category. >>>> >>>> >>>> Oh yes, can someone tell me how I would know if I have a track pad? >>> You have a trackpad since you have a MacBook Pro. All Mac laptops have a trackpad which replaces the mouse. You also have a Trackpad Commander which will allow you to operate your MacBook Pro using gestures. The trackpad is that rectangle below the space bar, and pressing it will perform a mouse click. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Tue Sep 20 22:11:47 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:11:47 +0200 Subject: Help with a apple script In-Reply-To: <1EBB1B9A-6E60-4660-AD5C-F0A8B8D6E3F8@swbell.net> References: <7F85FDB5-FD62-4669-B818-4BC6622F629C@swbell.net> <310C3405-13F1-4248-A8F8-685F4ADBFA6D@anarchie.org.uk> <1EBB1B9A-6E60-4660-AD5C-F0A8B8D6E3F8@swbell.net> Message-ID: Hello Mike, Cmd-t does various things in various applications, but it is Never the way to get the date. You must have hit Option by mistake if it seemed to work once. It's easily done since they're next to each other. Try some keyboard practice by pressing VO-k for Keyboard Help. You get out of it by pressing Escape. In Keyboard Help, if you press a VO command, you'll hear what it does. This does not work for Keyboard Commander, however. On the other hand, Keyboard Help does work for the gestures in Trackpad Commander, as long as Trackpad Commander is active when you start Keyboard Help. Cheers, Anne On 20 Sep 2011, at 22:29, Mike Maslo wrote: > Ok thanks for that > > However isn't cmd t for date? I have to use right cmd key to make it work? > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Mike, >> >> Remember that you have to use the right-hand Option key for Keyboard Commander. Actually, you can choose to use the left-hand Option key, but the default one is on the right. >> >> You turn Keyboard Commander on and off with VO-Shift-k and you can find the existing commands by opening VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8). Go to the Commanders category, select Keyboard Commander and navigate right to Keyboard Commander Table. >> >> You can also add your own short cuts to this list by clicking on the Add button. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 20 Sep 2011, at 19:05, Mike Maslo wrote: >> >>> Yes finally got a Mac! >>> >>> I did turn apple scripts on key commander and the cmd t and cmd u worked once but then when I tried again it did not work >>> >>> Mike. >>> >>> Why would this be and how would I fix it? >>> >>> Is there a way to tell if I did it right ? Also where can I go for a list of other shortcuts such as these? Maslo >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:19 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Mike, >>>> >>>> So you finally made it to this list! >>>> >>>> On 20 Sep 2011, at 03:20, michael maslo wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For starters I need help or have a question about a script I heard about. >>>>> >>>>> I heard that there is a script for telling the time and date as well as for unread emails. >>>>> One shortcut key supposedly is cmd + t and cmd +u. >>>>> >>>> In fact, the short cuts are Right Option key plus T and Right Option key plus U. You need to go into VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8) and enable the Keyboard Commander which you'll find under the Commanders category. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Oh yes, can someone tell me how I would know if I have a track pad? >>>> You have a trackpad since you have a MacBook Pro. All Mac laptops have a trackpad which replaces the mouse. You also have a Trackpad Commander which will allow you to operate your MacBook Pro using gestures. The trackpad is that rectangle below the space bar, and pressing it will perform a mouse click. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 23:10:27 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:10:27 -0400 Subject: Browsing sdef files in AppleScriptEditor. Message-ID: <976DC41A4BBC4648B5D358F06E608A0A@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Greetings, When opening a scriptable dictionary file (e.g VoiceOver.sdef) the available commands and objects are placed in a tree view. I assume there must be a quick way to view text associated with the item in focus, but it eludes me so far. VO-j always goes to the beginning and there does not appear to be a shortcut menu. Is there an easier method to jump to the item of interest, or is the item chooser the only game in town? TIA for any suggestions and best regards. Geoff From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Wed Sep 21 00:04:27 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:04:27 -0400 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> Hi Lynne and others, Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. Is there still a way to do this? Eric Caron On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Geoff > > On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: > > ? 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? > > No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with anything Windows. > > ? 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? > > Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. > > ? What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. > > Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Wed Sep 21 00:30:04 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:30:04 -0500 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <3486ED0F-53EB-486C-BFD3-7889642AC292@swbell.net> Hi everyone: I hope this is the proper place to talk or ask this question but what should my settings or configuration for this program to work properly? I am about to install it on my system and run windows 7 64 bit in it. Please give me the best configurations. Also, is this a hard program to use? Any helpful tips and hints would be appreciated. On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Lynne and others, > > Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. Is there still a way to do this? > > Eric Caron > On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Geoff >> >> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >> ? 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >> >> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with anything Windows. >> >> ? 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >> >> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >> >> ? What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >> >> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 02:06:10 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:06:10 -0700 Subject: Jail break iPhone - what does it mean? In-Reply-To: <1EF7CCFB-3493-4A41-833A-52383BBCFCE4@hopewell.org.uk> References: <6012FB8A-5018-4866-B774-2C71792AB283@gmail.com> <633E4498-5422-4740-9860-050F5ADC518C@hopewell.org.uk> <03D7BA4B-4BE9-4078-8C3D-D843E9EFF516@gmail.com> <1EF7CCFB-3493-4A41-833A-52383BBCFCE4@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <0F9D78A3-C295-4264-98BA-CE3AC26C91F8@gmail.com> Yes. just connect to itunes, restore, choose the ipsw file if you still have it and you should be on your way. it will cleen restore your phone to what ever you were running before you jail broke. On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Sarah, > thanks for that. If I did Jail break and it all went horribly wrong is it possible to recover the original iPhone e.g. from a prior backup so that no one knows it was ever jail broken? > Does Jail break affect your SIM card or your mobile network? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 03:02:50 2011 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:02:50 -0400 Subject: "Data detector present" Message-ID: <93ABDDCF-FF47-46BB-80B0-F5C575D988B2@gmail.com> Is there any way to get thi phrase to not be spoken? There is an E-mail that I get regularly and this phrase is on almost every line because there are so many links in the letter. This is truly annoying and distracting. Thanks. Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 04:29:39 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:29:39 -0700 Subject: "Data detector present" In-Reply-To: <93ABDDCF-FF47-46BB-80B0-F5C575D988B2@gmail.com> References: <93ABDDCF-FF47-46BB-80B0-F5C575D988B2@gmail.com> Message-ID: I wish there were. I tried to edit the vo dictionary with no avail. I also want them gone or not spoken anyways as some of the emails have a lot of links and addresses present. On Sep 20, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > Is there any way to get thi phrase to not be spoken? There is an E-mail that I get regularly and this phrase is on almost every line because there are so many links in the letter. This is truly annoying and distracting. > > Thanks. > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Wed Sep 21 07:30:43 2011 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:30:43 +0200 Subject: "Data detector present" In-Reply-To: <93ABDDCF-FF47-46BB-80B0-F5C575D988B2@gmail.com> References: <93ABDDCF-FF47-46BB-80B0-F5C575D988B2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <50FD9A4E-DFDC-4416-9DC7-AE384AFB396A@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Kristeen, You can stop it saying the word "present" by setting your verbosity to Low, but it still says "Data Detector". Cheers, Anne On 21 Sep 2011, at 04:02, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > Is there any way to get thi phrase to not be spoken? There is an E-mail that I get regularly and this phrase is on almost every line because there are so many links in the letter. This is truly annoying and distracting. > > Thanks. > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Wed Sep 21 09:30:25 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:30:25 +0100 Subject: Jail break iPhone - what does it mean? In-Reply-To: <0F9D78A3-C295-4264-98BA-CE3AC26C91F8@gmail.com> References: <6012FB8A-5018-4866-B774-2C71792AB283@gmail.com> <633E4498-5422-4740-9860-050F5ADC518C@hopewell.org.uk> <03D7BA4B-4BE9-4078-8C3D-D843E9EFF516@gmail.com> <1EF7CCFB-3493-4A41-833A-52383BBCFCE4@hopewell.org.uk> <0F9D78A3-C295-4264-98BA-CE3AC26C91F8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5AF50575-F4B8-4071-AEE2-29A70E8344D0@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Sarah, thanks for that. One last question. If I jail break my iPhone can it still sync with iTunes to update music and audio books on the Jail broke iPhone? Would Jail break affect the iPhone apps already installed from the iTunes store? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell On 21 Sep 2011, at 02:06, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yes. just connect to itunes, restore, choose the ipsw file if you still have it and you should be on your way. it will cleen restore your phone to what ever you were running before you jail broke. > On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> thanks for that. If I did Jail break and it all went horribly wrong is it possible to recover the original iPhone e.g. from a prior backup so that no one knows it was ever jail broken? >> Does Jail break affect your SIM card or your mobile network? >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Wed Sep 21 12:44:58 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (mike maslo) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 06:44:58 -0500 Subject: Having two different programs run at the same time Message-ID: <001c01cc7853$e4767950$ad636bf0$@swbell.net> Hi list: I don't know if this is possible but I was wondering if I want to use two different programs such as text edit and pages if that is possible. I have work to do and need both programs running and I would have to switch between both of them on a regular basis. I need to know if this is possible and if so how is this done? I tried to minimize but it seems like I can't get to anything else but the primary window. Any help would be appreciated. From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Wed Sep 21 12:55:35 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:55:35 +0100 Subject: Having two different programs run at the same time In-Reply-To: <001c01cc7853$e4767950$ad636bf0$@swbell.net> References: <001c01cc7853$e4767950$ad636bf0$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <19AF337A-FC34-4875-BBB7-32C3B9D2E44C@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Mike, YOu can certainly have a textedit window and a pages window open at the same time. YOu can use Command+Tab to switch between them. YOU can use cut and paste to copy or move text from pages to textedit or vice versa. Or are you asking for something more than this? Paul Hopewell From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 12:54:42 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:54:42 -0400 Subject: Having two different programs run at the same time In-Reply-To: <001c01cc7853$e4767950$ad636bf0$@swbell.net> References: <001c01cc7853$e4767950$ad636bf0$@swbell.net> Message-ID: I use pages and text edit all the time. I just command-tab between the two. On Sep 21, 2011, at 7:44 AM, mike maslo wrote: Hi list: I don't know if this is possible but I was wondering if I want to use two different programs such as text edit and pages if that is possible. I have work to do and need both programs running and I would have to switch between both of them on a regular basis. I need to know if this is possible and if so how is this done? I tried to minimize but it seems like I can't get to anything else but the primary window. Any help would be appreciated. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Wed Sep 21 14:14:06 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (mike maslo) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:14:06 -0500 Subject: Microsoft word Message-ID: <000001cc7860$59934900$0cb9db00$@swbell.net> Hi list: Please can someone tell me if Microsoft word or that Microsoft office suite is accessible with voice over? If not, what products can I use if I want to work with Microsoft word or such? Thanks in advance From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 14:30:18 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:30:18 +0100 Subject: photobooth Message-ID: hi all when I take a photo in photo booth how do i save it? or is that automatic? From gailcrowe1959 at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 14:58:30 2011 From: gailcrowe1959 at gmail.com (Gail the U. S. Male) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:58:30 -0600 Subject: Microsoft word In-Reply-To: <000001cc7860$59934900$0cb9db00$@swbell.net> References: <000001cc7860$59934900$0cb9db00$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <001501cc7866$8c9c90d0$a5d5b270$@com> Mike, from what I understand, from other posts, the Microsoft office products are not accessible. If you're using a Mac, Pages will handle word documents. HTH -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of mike maslo Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 7:14 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Microsoft word Hi list: Please can someone tell me if Microsoft word or that Microsoft office suite is accessible with voice over? If not, what products can I use if I want to work with Microsoft word or such? Thanks in advance <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Wed Sep 21 15:20:48 2011 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:20:48 +1000 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <3486ED0F-53EB-486C-BFD3-7889642AC292@swbell.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <3486ED0F-53EB-486C-BFD3-7889642AC292@swbell.net> Message-ID: <6A2D7FB6-8AFF-41B5-893E-72FA158ED156@bigpond.net.au> Hi All. Firstly, if you have VMWare tools installed. Then you can copy files or text from the host to Guess OS and visa versa. This is available in 3.xx. Just use the copy paste commands keystrokes for the relevant OS. Note, the feature works for any Guess OS that is running in VMWare as long as VMWare tools is installed. In relation to best setup settings. 1. Do not configure your VMWare to take more then 50% of your RAM. In fact, the VMWare site states you should have less then 50% of your memory allocated to the VMWare guess OS. 2. VMWare also stated that if you have a multi-core processor. Then only use one core for the Guess. Since the MAC OS has issues with syncing threads and other functionality between multiple cores. I am not sure if this is valid for Lion. 3. If you have only 4 gb of RAM. Buy more and upgrade to 8 mb at least. This will make a major difference in performance. 5. The GUI interface is very accessible. So you should not have any issues with changing parameters. 5. Store your data in a shared VMWare directory and sync the documents and desktop. By having it on the MAc drive. Not in the VMWare environment. You will maintain reliability. 6. Do not use 2 gb files setting. This can slow down the performance of the VMWare. I do not know if this has been improved within 4.0. This came from our internal I.T people at work. Other then the above tips. I don't think there is anything else of major concern. Sean On 21/09/2011, at 9:30 AM, michael maslo wrote: > Hi everyone: > > I hope this is the proper place to talk or ask this question but what should my settings or configuration for this program to work properly? > > I am about to install it on my system and run windows 7 64 bit in it. Please give me the best configurations. Also, is this a hard program to use? > > Any helpful tips and hints would be appreciated. > On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> Hi Lynne and others, >> >> Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. Is there still a way to do this? >> >> Eric Caron >> On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Geoff >>> >>> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>> ? 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >>> >>> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with anything Windows. >>> >>> ? 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >>> >>> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >>> >>> ? What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >>> >>> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 16:55:23 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:55:23 -0400 Subject: Independant AppleTV setup? Message-ID: Greetings all, I'm expecting an Apple tv shortly, and recall reading that the mini USB port is not intended for use by consumers. Is this correct? If so, presumably it's not possible to update the IOS version and I will not be able to use it out of the box without getting someone to go into settings -> general -> accessibility? TIA for any clarification and best regards. Geoff From support at mac-access.net Wed Sep 21 17:01:21 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:01:21 +0100 Subject: Important Change To List Policy; Please Read! Message-ID: <42797206-3866-4B90-9119-A036B8EAC7C4@mac-access.net> Hello everybody In the light of a likely aggressive spam address managing to subscribe to one of our groups recently, Gordon has now modified the policy regarding new subscribers joining the list. Rather than the usual simple confirmation, new subscribers must now also be approved by either us or one of the assistant list controllers before they are permitted to join the group. Obviously as you're currently subscribed this won't affect you' but should you ever leave and then wish to return, it's something you'll need to know about. As a side issue, we have recently had several members leave the group when they've gone on holiday, (vacation), and didn't want their mailboxes cluttered upon their return. Unsubscribing isn't necessary to prevent this; all you have to do is send an email to the server with the appropriate commands to turn of delivery until your return. if you'd like to know how to do this, either read the help document at or contact us for further information. We regret the change, but as a result of us opting to use Google to provide a second archive page for list traffic, we believe that it has compromised our security somewhat and so we've had to take this decision now, before things got out of control. We are also looking at whether it's worth continuing to use Google as a second archive provider; if anybody uses that archive or if anybody has any views on that we'd love to hear them (off list). We will shortly be compartmentalising the support addresses we use for each network, so stand by for a message to that effect as well. But for now, please use Gordon is home now although still very delicate. We are taking the opportunity while his activity is restricted to discuss this and other things which we are planning. We hope to bring you more news shortly. We will update the list policy document accordingly, to reflect this change in policy which, we regret, we think will now have to remain permanent. Lynne From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 17:11:55 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:11:55 -0700 Subject: "Data detector present" In-Reply-To: <50FD9A4E-DFDC-4416-9DC7-AE384AFB396A@anarchie.org.uk> References: <93ABDDCF-FF47-46BB-80B0-F5C575D988B2@gmail.com> <50FD9A4E-DFDC-4416-9DC7-AE384AFB396A@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: lol. I want it gone completely. I don't want to hear data detector present. I just want to read the email. This would be more fluid in my opinion. On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Kristeen, > > You can stop it saying the word "present" by setting your verbosity to Low, but it still says "Data Detector". > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 21 Sep 2011, at 04:02, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> Is there any way to get thi phrase to not be spoken? There is an E-mail that I get regularly and this phrase is on almost every line because there are so many links in the letter. This is truly annoying and distracting. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Kristeen Hughes >> khwicca at gmail.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 17:09:51 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:09:51 -0700 Subject: Jail break iPhone - what does it mean? In-Reply-To: <5AF50575-F4B8-4071-AEE2-29A70E8344D0@hopewell.org.uk> References: <6012FB8A-5018-4866-B774-2C71792AB283@gmail.com> <633E4498-5422-4740-9860-050F5ADC518C@hopewell.org.uk> <03D7BA4B-4BE9-4078-8C3D-D843E9EFF516@gmail.com> <1EF7CCFB-3493-4A41-833A-52383BBCFCE4@hopewell.org.uk> <0F9D78A3-C295-4264-98BA-CE3AC26C91F8@gmail.com> <5AF50575-F4B8-4071-AEE2-29A70E8344D0@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: No you can still use those apps. I've never tried to synch in the 2 days I was jail broken. I would check applevis.com and check the forms for questions as there are a lot of good guides written for this purpose. On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:30 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Sarah, > thanks for that. One last question. If I jail break my iPhone can it still sync with iTunes to update music and audio books on the Jail broke iPhone? Would Jail break affect the iPhone apps already installed from the iTunes store? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > On 21 Sep 2011, at 02:06, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Yes. just connect to itunes, restore, choose the ipsw file if you still have it and you should be on your way. it will cleen restore your phone to what ever you were running before you jail broke. >> On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> thanks for that. If I did Jail break and it all went horribly wrong is it possible to recover the original iPhone e.g. from a prior backup so that no one knows it was ever jail broken? >>> Does Jail break affect your SIM card or your mobile network? >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Sep 21 18:02:08 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:02:08 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> Hello Eric I think this still works; although I'm not 100%. I need to isolate our machine anyway so I'll try and let you know. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:04, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Lynne and others, Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. Is there still a way to do this? Eric Caron On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Geoff > > On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: > > ? 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? > > No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with anything Windows. > > ? 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? > > Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. > > ? What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. > > Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 19:07:14 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:07:14 -0700 Subject: Monitor Wi-Fi with Lion's hidden tool Message-ID: <221CFDE4-385B-4092-80D2-AA8C85EBF895@gmail.com> this is an interesting tidbit. Monitor Wi-Fi with Lion's hidden tool Did you know that Lion includes a small utility for monitoring several aspects of your network's Wi-Fi traffic? http://macw.us/oYd3Y0 From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Wed Sep 21 19:07:35 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:07:35 +0100 Subject: Anyone know anything about Samba? Message-ID: <0B8997BD-8CEC-4ACB-B13B-4997994E3E5D@computing.dcu.ie> Evening folks, I'm having a very strange problem under Lion. I'm trying to connect to a Linux server over Samba. This is working, but the problem is that the volume reports, or rather my Mac interprets, the permissions on the samba-share such that I don't have permission to open it. It's authenticating fine. Anyone any thoughts? This works fine under SL and various flavours of windows. Thanks much, D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Sep 21 19:29:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:29:27 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <3486ED0F-53EB-486C-BFD3-7889642AC292@swbell.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <3486ED0F-53EB-486C-BFD3-7889642AC292@swbell.net> Message-ID: <5AD57517-748A-47A1-9727-353E99B0EAB9@mac-access.net> Michael Remember that the configuration of Windows apps is off topic. But you're fine with the VM configuration itself since that is Mac. We have 8GB memory and we allocate 4GB to Windows 7 64-bit. That is about right, since 64-bit requires more RAM than the standard 32-bit. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:30, michael maslo wrote: Hi everyone: I hope this is the proper place to talk or ask this question but what should my settings or configuration for this program to work properly? I am about to install it on my system and run windows 7 64 bit in it. Please give me the best configurations. Also, is this a hard program to use? Any helpful tips and hints would be appreciated. On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Lynne and others, > > Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. Is there still a way to do this? > > Eric Caron > On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Geoff >> >> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >> ? 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >> >> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with anything Windows. >> >> ? 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >> >> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >> >> ? What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >> >> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 19:33:38 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:33:38 -0700 Subject: a trace route command in the terminal Message-ID: <673B6CDA-6D41-4F50-8E05-9465A2E81234@gmail.com> Hello to all. I'm trying to do a trace route to a certain website to collect info for the web master. I tried traceroute http://listen.ultrastreams.us with no joy. It says unknown host and even google fails. Is the command wrong and if so what's the correct one? I used to be able to do this under snl. Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Sep 21 19:45:09 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:45:09 +0100 Subject: Microsoft word In-Reply-To: <000001cc7860$59934900$0cb9db00$@swbell.net> References: <000001cc7860$59934900$0cb9db00$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <16064EE1-F5AA-42E6-92EB-BBA29CB7CD53@mac-access.net> hello Mike No, Microsoft products don't word with VoiceOver. I suggest Nisus Writer Pro for Word document best compatibility. They also work with Pages, but it's slow and a it clunky in my experience. Nisus is a far better bet for working with Word documents as you have far better control over what's actually presented where. As I have vision, this applies with and without VoiceOver. I try to use VoiceOver as often as I can because I want to understand the way things work. Anyway I suggest Nisus although I'm sure others will put forward other solutions. That is the diversity of this group, you will always get a range of options. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 14:14, mike maslo wrote: Hi list: Please can someone tell me if Microsoft word or that Microsoft office suite is accessible with voice over? If not, what products can I use if I want to work with Microsoft word or such? Thanks in advance <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Sep 21 19:54:35 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:54:35 +0100 Subject: Independant AppleTV setup? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <594D8435-4DC4-4BFB-9B24-C13D52ADD3EA@mac-access.net> hello Geoff Yes, this is correct; but you can do all of your iOS updates via iTunes. You can configure Apple TV using the supplied remote. We plan to do a podcast on this shortly, when Gordon is up to it. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 16:55, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings all, I'm expecting an Apple tv shortly, and recall reading that the mini USB port is not intended for use by consumers. Is this correct? If so, presumably it's not possible to update the IOS version and I will not be able to use it out of the box without getting someone to go into settings -> general -> accessibility? TIA for any clarification and best regards. Geoff <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Sep 21 20:03:46 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:03:46 +0100 Subject: Monitor Wi-Fi with Lion's hidden tool In-Reply-To: <221CFDE4-385B-4092-80D2-AA8C85EBF895@gmail.com> References: <221CFDE4-385B-4092-80D2-AA8C85EBF895@gmail.com> Message-ID: <461461BB-3EBF-4697-B46B-CE6A95A24FD6@mac-access.net> Hello Sarah This is a bit of a falsehood I think because you can get all of the statistical info in this tool via Airport utility>manual setup>advanced>logs and statistics. I've seen this thing floating around on the internet for a few weeks, and it really isn't anything spectacular. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 19:07, Sarah Alawami wrote: this is an interesting tidbit. Monitor Wi-Fi with Lion's hidden tool Did you know that Lion includes a small utility for monitoring several aspects of your network's Wi-Fi traffic? http://macw.us/oYd3Y0 <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 20:17:30 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:17:30 -0400 Subject: Independant AppleTV setup? References: <594D8435-4DC4-4BFB-9B24-C13D52ADD3EA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, Thanks much for the info. I understand that IOS5 will render it possible to update without need to connect to iTunes, but until then, how is this done if the USB port is unavailable? If it is indeed possible to connect to iTunes I assume I could enable voiceOver via the "configure universal access" dialog in iTunes? Are you saying that its possible to turn VO on via the remote? Sorry if I totally misinterpreted your post. I guess the bottom line question is how I can attach to iTunes without the USB cable? Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? hello Geoff Yes, this is correct; but you can do all of your iOS updates via iTunes. You can configure Apple TV using the supplied remote. We plan to do a podcast on this shortly, when Gordon is up to it. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 16:55, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings all, I'm expecting an Apple tv shortly, and recall reading that the mini USB port is not intended for use by consumers. Is this correct? If so, presumably it's not possible to update the IOS version and I will not be able to use it out of the box without getting someone to go into settings -> general -> accessibility? TIA for any clarification and best regards. Geoff <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Wed Sep 21 20:20:03 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:20:03 +0100 Subject: Independant AppleTV setup? In-Reply-To: References: <594D8435-4DC4-4BFB-9B24-C13D52ADD3EA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <6E567C90-A746-4BE0-87C6-3FF410F98EEC@mac-access.net> Hello Geoff You don't need the UsB port. You plug the Apple TV into your network, or configure its wifi network and the software is downloaded via the Internet. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 20:17, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Lynne, Thanks much for the info. I understand that IOS5 will render it possible to update without need to connect to iTunes, but until then, how is this done if the USB port is unavailable? If it is indeed possible to connect to iTunes I assume I could enable voiceOver via the "configure universal access" dialog in iTunes? Are you saying that its possible to turn VO on via the remote? Sorry if I totally misinterpreted your post. I guess the bottom line question is how I can attach to iTunes without the USB cable? Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? hello Geoff Yes, this is correct; but you can do all of your iOS updates via iTunes. You can configure Apple TV using the supplied remote. We plan to do a podcast on this shortly, when Gordon is up to it. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 16:55, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings all, I'm expecting an Apple tv shortly, and recall reading that the mini USB port is not intended for use by consumers. Is this correct? If so, presumably it's not possible to update the IOS version and I will not be able to use it out of the box without getting someone to go into settings -> general -> accessibility? TIA for any clarification and best regards. Geoff <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 20:52:18 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:52:18 -0400 Subject: Independant AppleTV setup? References: <594D8435-4DC4-4BFB-9B24-C13D52ADD3EA@mac-access.net> <6E567C90-A746-4BE0-87C6-3FF410F98EEC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, Since your last post the little box was delivered. I didn't expect iTunes would find it unless I first entered a WPA2 key, so I attached it to the router directly via eathernet. The device shows up in my router configuration as "Apple-TV" with a mac and ip address, but when I launched iTunes my device tree view is empty. The remote appears to have three large buttons with two buttoney looking things on the back that I assume is actually the seal for the battery? Is there a way to proceed without sighted help? If not, what is the minimum that I would need to ask a neighbor to do? Thanks again and best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:20 PM Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? Hello Geoff You don't need the UsB port. You plug the Apple TV into your network, or configure its wifi network and the software is downloaded via the Internet. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 20:17, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Lynne, Thanks much for the info. I understand that IOS5 will render it possible to update without need to connect to iTunes, but until then, how is this done if the USB port is unavailable? If it is indeed possible to connect to iTunes I assume I could enable voiceOver via the "configure universal access" dialog in iTunes? Are you saying that its possible to turn VO on via the remote? Sorry if I totally misinterpreted your post. I guess the bottom line question is how I can attach to iTunes without the USB cable? Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? hello Geoff Yes, this is correct; but you can do all of your iOS updates via iTunes. You can configure Apple TV using the supplied remote. We plan to do a podcast on this shortly, when Gordon is up to it. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 16:55, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings all, I'm expecting an Apple tv shortly, and recall reading that the mini USB port is not intended for use by consumers. Is this correct? If so, presumably it's not possible to update the IOS version and I will not be able to use it out of the box without getting someone to go into settings -> general -> accessibility? TIA for any clarification and best regards. Geoff <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Wed Sep 21 20:57:03 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:57:03 +0100 Subject: Independant AppleTV setup? In-Reply-To: References: <594D8435-4DC4-4BFB-9B24-C13D52ADD3EA@mac-access.net> <6E567C90-A746-4BE0-87C6-3FF410F98EEC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: helo Geoff iTunes doesn't see the device. You don't configure it that way. Write me privately. Lyne On 21 Sep 2011, at 20:52, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Lynne, Since your last post the little box was delivered. I didn't expect iTunes would find it unless I first entered a WPA2 key, so I attached it to the router directly via eathernet. The device shows up in my router configuration as "Apple-TV" with a mac and ip address, but when I launched iTunes my device tree view is empty. The remote appears to have three large buttons with two buttoney looking things on the back that I assume is actually the seal for the battery? Is there a way to proceed without sighted help? If not, what is the minimum that I would need to ask a neighbor to do? Thanks again and best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:20 PM Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? Hello Geoff You don't need the UsB port. You plug the Apple TV into your network, or configure its wifi network and the software is downloaded via the Internet. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 20:17, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Lynne, Thanks much for the info. I understand that IOS5 will render it possible to update without need to connect to iTunes, but until then, how is this done if the USB port is unavailable? If it is indeed possible to connect to iTunes I assume I could enable voiceOver via the "configure universal access" dialog in iTunes? Are you saying that its possible to turn VO on via the remote? Sorry if I totally misinterpreted your post. I guess the bottom line question is how I can attach to iTunes without the USB cable? Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? hello Geoff Yes, this is correct; but you can do all of your iOS updates via iTunes. You can configure Apple TV using the supplied remote. We plan to do a podcast on this shortly, when Gordon is up to it. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 16:55, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings all, I'm expecting an Apple tv shortly, and recall reading that the mini USB port is not intended for use by consumers. Is this correct? If so, presumably it's not possible to update the IOS version and I will not be able to use it out of the box without getting someone to go into settings -> general -> accessibility? TIA for any clarification and best regards. Geoff <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Sep 21 22:36:03 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:36:03 +0100 Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox Message-ID: <453CD99B-6219-4E77-A2BD-FE046B705AB7@mac-access.net> Evening folks, I'm having a little trouble setting up Dropbox. I've had to create a new DB account, and have launched the app from Terminal as i did when setting up previously. Unfortunately, although I've authorised the dialogue which asks if DB should be able to accept incoming connections, I cannot find the setup window in the "Window Chooser". I am guessing that for some reason, it has not activated. I have also ensured that DB is no longer in my login items. Thank you for any assistance TC :) James From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 22:44:14 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:44:14 -0400 Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox References: <453CD99B-6219-4E77-A2BD-FE046B705AB7@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi James, This makes no sense, but Annie recently mentioned that she successfully installed by running the dropbox.app file from the disk image rather than copying it to the applications folder. This made all the difference for me -- I never tried it from terminal, but was never presented with the prompts until I launched it from the disk image. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: James AUSTIN To: Ma Access Mac OSX Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox Evening folks, I'm having a little trouble setting up Dropbox. I've had to create a new DB account, and have launched the app from Terminal as i did when setting up previously. Unfortunately, although I've authorised the dialogue which asks if DB should be able to accept incoming connections, I cannot find the setup window in the "Window Chooser". I am guessing that for some reason, it has not activated. I have also ensured that DB is no longer in my login items. Thank you for any assistance TC :) James <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Sep 21 22:55:52 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:55:52 +0100 Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox In-Reply-To: References: <453CD99B-6219-4E77-A2BD-FE046B705AB7@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <2CC1BB83-EA2A-4A55-BA32-8DCEEAF04162@mac-access.net> Hi Geoff, Unfortunately, this did not work. Never mind, I'll try it again tomorrow. Thanks TC :) James On 21 Sep 2011, at 22:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi James, > > This makes no sense, but Annie recently mentioned that she successfully installed by running the dropbox.app file from the disk image rather than copying it to the applications folder. This made all the difference for me -- I never tried it from terminal, but was never presented with the prompts until I launched it from the disk image. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James AUSTIN > To: Ma Access Mac OSX > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:36 PM > Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox > > > Evening folks, > > I'm having a little trouble setting up Dropbox. I've had to create a new DB account, and have launched the app from Terminal as i did when setting up previously. Unfortunately, although I've authorised the dialogue which asks if DB should be able to accept incoming connections, I cannot find the setup window in the "Window Chooser". I am guessing that for some reason, it has not activated. I have also ensured that DB is no longer in my login items. > > Thank you for any assistance > TC :) > James > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Wed Sep 21 23:16:48 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (mike maslo) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:16:48 -0500 Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox In-Reply-To: <2CC1BB83-EA2A-4A55-BA32-8DCEEAF04162@mac-access.net> References: <453CD99B-6219-4E77-A2BD-FE046B705AB7@mac-access.net> <2CC1BB83-EA2A-4A55-BA32-8DCEEAF04162@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <000b01cc78ac$2a032920$7e097b60$@swbell.net> Hi, I have a different problem with drop box. I installed it and it launches. However, when I try to get into the file I can't access the directory. It says drop box when I am on my desktop but it says drop box has no active windows. When I get that message I can't get into applications or anything else unless I go to my dock and launch a program. Anyone have any ideas of what I am doing wrong? -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of James AUSTIN Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:56 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Trouble setting up Dropbox Hi Geoff, Unfortunately, this did not work. Never mind, I'll try it again tomorrow. Thanks TC :) James On 21 Sep 2011, at 22:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi James, > > This makes no sense, but Annie recently mentioned that she successfully installed by running the dropbox.app file from the disk image rather than copying it to the applications folder. This made all the difference for me -- I never tried it from terminal, but was never presented with the prompts until I launched it from the disk image. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James AUSTIN > To: Ma Access Mac OSX > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:36 PM > Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox > > > Evening folks, > > I'm having a little trouble setting up Dropbox. I've had to create a new DB account, and have launched the app from Terminal as i did when setting up previously. Unfortunately, although I've authorised the dialogue which asks if DB should be able to accept incoming connections, I cannot find the setup window in the "Window Chooser". I am guessing that for some reason, it has not activated. I have also ensured that DB is no longer in my login items. > > Thank you for any assistance > TC :) > James > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 23:41:13 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:41:13 -0400 Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox References: <453CD99B-6219-4E77-A2BD-FE046B705AB7@mac-access.net> <2CC1BB83-EA2A-4A55-BA32-8DCEEAF04162@mac-access.net> <000b01cc78ac$2a032920$7e097b60$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <6C8D956FEBD04010B11F3F3B8E498001@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Mike, I've never needed to start the dropbox app, but have access to the folder in my home directory. As I recall, my folder did not reflect the actual contents until I rebooted for the first time. HTH. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: mike maslo To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 6:16 PM Subject: RE: Trouble setting up Dropbox Hi, I have a different problem with drop box. I installed it and it launches. However, when I try to get into the file I can't access the directory. It says drop box when I am on my desktop but it says drop box has no active windows. When I get that message I can't get into applications or anything else unless I go to my dock and launch a program. Anyone have any ideas of what I am doing wrong? -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of James AUSTIN Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:56 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Trouble setting up Dropbox Hi Geoff, Unfortunately, this did not work. Never mind, I'll try it again tomorrow. Thanks TC :) James On 21 Sep 2011, at 22:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi James, > > This makes no sense, but Annie recently mentioned that she successfully installed by running the dropbox.app file from the disk image rather than copying it to the applications folder. This made all the difference for me -- I never tried it from terminal, but was never presented with the prompts until I launched it from the disk image. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James AUSTIN > To: Ma Access Mac OSX > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:36 PM > Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox > > > Evening folks, > > I'm having a little trouble setting up Dropbox. I've had to create a new DB account, and have launched the app from Terminal as i did when setting up previously. Unfortunately, although I've authorised the dialogue which asks if DB should be able to accept incoming connections, I cannot find the setup window in the "Window Chooser". I am guessing that for some reason, it has not activated. I have also ensured that DB is no longer in my login items. > > Thank you for any assistance > TC :) > James > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Wed Sep 21 23:41:01 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:41:01 -0500 Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox In-Reply-To: <000b01cc78ac$2a032920$7e097b60$@swbell.net> References: <453CD99B-6219-4E77-A2BD-FE046B705AB7@mac-access.net> <2CC1BB83-EA2A-4A55-BA32-8DCEEAF04162@mac-access.net> <000b01cc78ac$2a032920$7e097b60$@swbell.net> Message-ID: Yet another update and boy I need help. I thought it launched but when I hit option control f1 it does not show as a running application. I am so confused for I thought it was running but I guess it isn't.any help really now would be appreciated. On Sep 21, 2011, at 5:16 PM, mike maslo wrote: > Hi, I have a different problem with drop box. > > I installed it and it launches. However, when I try to get into the file I > can't access the directory. > > It says drop box when I am on my desktop but it says drop box has no active > windows. When I get that message I can't get into applications or anything > else unless I go to my dock and launch a program. > > Anyone have any ideas of what I am doing wrong? > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of James AUSTIN > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:56 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Trouble setting up Dropbox > > Hi Geoff, > > Unfortunately, this did not work. Never mind, I'll try it again tomorrow. > > Thanks > TC :) > James > On 21 Sep 2011, at 22:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Hi James, >> >> This makes no sense, but Annie recently mentioned that she successfully > installed by running the dropbox.app file from the disk image rather than > copying it to the applications folder. This made all the difference for me > -- I never tried it from terminal, but was never presented with the prompts > until I launched it from the disk image. >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: James AUSTIN >> To: Ma Access Mac OSX >> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:36 PM >> Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox >> >> >> Evening folks, >> >> I'm having a little trouble setting up Dropbox. I've had to create a new > DB account, and have launched the app from Terminal as i did when setting up > previously. Unfortunately, although I've authorised the dialogue which asks > if DB should be able to accept incoming connections, I cannot find the setup > window in the "Window Chooser". I am guessing that for some reason, it has > not activated. I have also ensured that DB is no longer in my login items. >> >> Thank you for any assistance >> TC :) >> James >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Wed Sep 21 23:48:33 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:48:33 -0500 Subject: So sorry for confusion on drop box Message-ID: <9CCBDD03-0E6C-4EBB-809A-EA1AA853B21A@swbell.net> Hi list and Jeff: I saw your message jeff late. I see how it works now. I did not understand that you just see it in your home directory. If I wanted to send something via drop box, how would I do that may I ask? I am so sorry for all the questions. From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 00:24:37 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:24:37 -0400 Subject: So sorry for confusion on drop box References: <9CCBDD03-0E6C-4EBB-809A-EA1AA853B21A@swbell.net> Message-ID: Greetings Michael, The dropbox folder behaves like any other folder; you can move files around and create subfolders as though you're dealing with your local drive. The only difference (besides the obvious one that files will take longer to synchronize) is that when you press vo-shift-m to bring up the shortcut menu on a folder or file within your dropbox, you will notice a menu selection labeled "dropbox" which has a submenu consisting of all applicable options. HTH. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: michael maslo To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 6:48 PM Subject: So sorry for confusion on drop box Hi list and Jeff: I saw your message jeff late. I see how it works now. I did not understand that you just see it in your home directory. If I wanted to send something via drop box, how would I do that may I ask? I am so sorry for all the questions. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 00:42:05 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:42:05 +0100 Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox In-Reply-To: <453CD99B-6219-4E77-A2BD-FE046B705AB7@mac-access.net> References: <453CD99B-6219-4E77-A2BD-FE046B705AB7@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <031B6979-993D-46F5-A532-E6D69CC68C6E@mac-access.net> James Drop box won't work like that in Lion. You have to open the package and then find the app under the contents/Mac OS folder and do it that way. If you've already installed it you'll have to remove the log-in item. That is assuming you aren't running a later version than I have here, which was a beta released about 10 days ago. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 22:36, James AUSTIN wrote: Evening folks, I'm having a little trouble setting up Dropbox. I've had to create a new DB account, and have launched the app from Terminal as i did when setting up previously. Unfortunately, although I've authorised the dialogue which asks if DB should be able to accept incoming connections, I cannot find the setup window in the "Window Chooser". I am guessing that for some reason, it has not activated. I have also ensured that DB is no longer in my login items. Thank you for any assistance TC :) James <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 00:45:32 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:45:32 +0100 Subject: I forgot again! Message-ID: <515A46AC-FF9C-46B8-A5C2-B0B96CB9EE49@mac-access.net> Hello all Once again I forgot to change accounts when replying to that message about Drop Box. I'm going to try this again as this programme is creating real problems for us not just with accessibility but also accessing the thing when it's supposedly installed. Lynne From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 03:03:19 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:03:19 -0400 Subject: Independant AppleTV setup? References: <594D8435-4DC4-4BFB-9B24-C13D52ADD3EA@mac-access.net><6E567C90-A746-4BE0-87C6-3FF410F98EEC@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <23975A0869484515AAD460510BC81229@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> For the benefit of anyone following this list who might be interested, I'm off and running and grateful to Lynne for her help. I have no light perception, yet can easily set up an Apple-TV without sighted assistance after learning how to change inputs on my TV. The first step is to set the tv's input to HDMI, and connect the ATV accordingly. The last step is to plug in the ATV and wait about 20 seconds. Samantha will then speak through your tv admonishing you to press the lower right hand button on the remote three times to enable VoiceOver, and you will be guided through the menus hence forth. Once again, excellent attentiveness to accessibility demonstrated by Apple in designing ATV's interface. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Smith To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:57 PM Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? helo Geoff iTunes doesn't see the device. You don't configure it that way. Write me privately. Lyne On 21 Sep 2011, at 20:52, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Lynne, Since your last post the little box was delivered. I didn't expect iTunes would find it unless I first entered a WPA2 key, so I attached it to the router directly via eathernet. The device shows up in my router configuration as "Apple-TV" with a mac and ip address, but when I launched iTunes my device tree view is empty. The remote appears to have three large buttons with two buttoney looking things on the back that I assume is actually the seal for the battery? Is there a way to proceed without sighted help? If not, what is the minimum that I would need to ask a neighbor to do? Thanks again and best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:20 PM Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? Hello Geoff You don't need the UsB port. You plug the Apple TV into your network, or configure its wifi network and the software is downloaded via the Internet. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 20:17, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Lynne, Thanks much for the info. I understand that IOS5 will render it possible to update without need to connect to iTunes, but until then, how is this done if the USB port is unavailable? If it is indeed possible to connect to iTunes I assume I could enable voiceOver via the "configure universal access" dialog in iTunes? Are you saying that its possible to turn VO on via the remote? Sorry if I totally misinterpreted your post. I guess the bottom line question is how I can attach to iTunes without the USB cable? Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 2:54 PM Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? hello Geoff Yes, this is correct; but you can do all of your iOS updates via iTunes. You can configure Apple TV using the supplied remote. We plan to do a podcast on this shortly, when Gordon is up to it. Lynne On 21 Sep 2011, at 16:55, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings all, I'm expecting an Apple tv shortly, and recall reading that the mini USB port is not intended for use by consumers. Is this correct? If so, presumably it's not possible to update the IOS version and I will not be able to use it out of the box without getting someone to go into settings -> general -> accessibility? TIA for any clarification and best regards. Geoff <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 03:24:57 2011 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:24:57 -0500 Subject: Independant AppleTV setup? References: <594D8435-4DC4-4BFB-9B24-C13D52ADD3EA@mac-access.net><6E567C90-A746-4BE0-87C6-3FF410F98EEC@mac-access.net> <23975A0869484515AAD460510BC81229@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <6AF80927DDAD43EFB82E4E8F0725EAB6@joseph1> what if you're old like me, or ur tv is anyway, how much do them HDMI tv things cost? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Waaler" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:03 PM Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? > For the benefit of anyone following this list who might be interested, I'm > off and running and grateful to Lynne for her help. > > I have no light perception, yet can easily set up an Apple-TV without > sighted assistance after learning how to change inputs on my TV. The > first step is to set the tv's input to HDMI, and connect the ATV > accordingly. The last step is to plug in the ATV and wait about 20 > seconds. Samantha will then speak through your tv admonishing you to > press the lower right hand button on the remote three times to enable > VoiceOver, and you will be guided through the menus hence forth. Once > again, excellent attentiveness to accessibility demonstrated by Apple in > designing ATV's interface. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gordon Smith > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:57 PM > Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? > > > helo Geoff > > iTunes doesn't see the device. You don't configure it that way. Write me > privately. > > Lyne > > On 21 Sep 2011, at 20:52, Geoff Waaler wrote: > > Hi Lynne, > > Since your last post the little box was delivered. I didn't expect > iTunes would find it unless I first entered a WPA2 key, so I attached it > to the router directly via eathernet. The device shows up in my router > configuration as "Apple-TV" with a mac and ip address, but when I launched > iTunes my device tree view is empty. > > The remote appears to have three large buttons with two buttoney looking > things on the back that I assume is actually the seal for the battery? Is > there a way to proceed without sighted help? If not, what is the minimum > that I would need to ask a neighbor to do? > > Thanks again and best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:20 PM > Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? > > > Hello Geoff > You don't need the UsB port. You plug the Apple TV into your network, or > configure its wifi network and the software is downloaded via the > Internet. > > Lynne > > On 21 Sep 2011, at 20:17, Geoff Waaler wrote: > > Hi Lynne, > > Thanks much for the info. I understand that IOS5 will render it > possible to update without need to connect to iTunes, but until then, how > is this done if the USB port is unavailable? > > If it is indeed possible to connect to iTunes I assume I could enable > voiceOver via the "configure universal access" dialog in iTunes? Are you > saying that its possible to turn VO on via the remote? Sorry if I totally > misinterpreted your post. I guess the bottom line question is how I can > attach to iTunes without the USB cable? > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? > > > hello Geoff > > Yes, this is correct; but you can do all of your iOS updates via > iTunes. You can configure Apple TV using the supplied remote. > > We plan to do a podcast on this shortly, when Gordon is up to it. > > Lynne > > On 21 Sep 2011, at 16:55, Geoff Waaler wrote: > > Greetings all, > > I'm expecting an Apple tv shortly, and recall reading that the mini USB > port is not intended for use by consumers. Is this correct? > > If so, presumably it's not possible to update the IOS version and I > will not be able to use it out of the box without getting someone to go > into settings -> general -> accessibility? > > TIA for any clarification and best regards. > Geoff > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Thu Sep 22 04:01:44 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:01:44 -0500 Subject: Microsoft word In-Reply-To: <000001cc7860$59934900$0cb9db00$@swbell.net> References: <000001cc7860$59934900$0cb9db00$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <039F3F16-7BE7-4539-86EF-C10DFBD645F8@charter.net> The mac version of Microsoft office is totally inaccessible, stick with iwork or open office. On Sep 21, 2011, at 8:14 AM, mike maslo wrote: > Hi list: > > Please can someone tell me if Microsoft word or that Microsoft office suite > is accessible with voice over? > > If not, what products can I use if I want to work with Microsoft word or > such? > > Thanks in advance > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 04:54:20 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:54:20 -0400 Subject: Independant AppleTV setup? References: <594D8435-4DC4-4BFB-9B24-C13D52ADD3EA@mac-access.net><6E567C90-A746-4BE0-87C6-3FF410F98EEC@mac-access.net><23975A0869484515AAD460510BC81229@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <6AF80927DDAD43EFB82E4E8F0725EAB6@joseph1> Message-ID: <107AC5A63BB84E4A8669862D059F7FB2@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Joe, I believe this is the one I have. If so there are some button controls on the side, but you can switch inputs with the touch of one button on the remote (once you know which one, that is). During my quick perusal of Amazon just now, they all appeared to be within about $40 of each other. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: joe quinn To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:24 PM Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? what if you're old like me, or ur tv is anyway, how much do them HDMI tv things cost? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Waaler" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:03 PM Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? > For the benefit of anyone following this list who might be interested, I'm > off and running and grateful to Lynne for her help. > > I have no light perception, yet can easily set up an Apple-TV without > sighted assistance after learning how to change inputs on my TV. The > first step is to set the tv's input to HDMI, and connect the ATV > accordingly. The last step is to plug in the ATV and wait about 20 > seconds. Samantha will then speak through your tv admonishing you to > press the lower right hand button on the remote three times to enable > VoiceOver, and you will be guided through the menus hence forth. Once > again, excellent attentiveness to accessibility demonstrated by Apple in > designing ATV's interface. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gordon Smith > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:57 PM > Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? > > > helo Geoff > > iTunes doesn't see the device. You don't configure it that way. Write me > privately. > > Lyne > > On 21 Sep 2011, at 20:52, Geoff Waaler wrote: > > Hi Lynne, > > Since your last post the little box was delivered. I didn't expect > iTunes would find it unless I first entered a WPA2 key, so I attached it > to the router directly via eathernet. The device shows up in my router > configuration as "Apple-TV" with a mac and ip address, but when I launched > iTunes my device tree view is empty. > > The remote appears to have three large buttons with two buttoney looking > things on the back that I assume is actually the seal for the battery? Is > there a way to proceed without sighted help? If not, what is the minimum > that I would need to ask a neighbor to do? > > Thanks again and best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:20 PM > Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? > > > Hello Geoff > You don't need the UsB port. You plug the Apple TV into your network, or > configure its wifi network and the software is downloaded via the > Internet. > > Lynne > > On 21 Sep 2011, at 20:17, Geoff Waaler wrote: > > Hi Lynne, > > Thanks much for the info. I understand that IOS5 will render it > possible to update without need to connect to iTunes, but until then, how > is this done if the USB port is unavailable? > > If it is indeed possible to connect to iTunes I assume I could enable > voiceOver via the "configure universal access" dialog in iTunes? Are you > saying that its possible to turn VO on via the remote? Sorry if I totally > misinterpreted your post. I guess the bottom line question is how I can > attach to iTunes without the USB cable? > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: Independant AppleTV setup? > > > hello Geoff > > Yes, this is correct; but you can do all of your iOS updates via > iTunes. You can configure Apple TV using the supplied remote. > > We plan to do a podcast on this shortly, when Gordon is up to it. > > Lynne > > On 21 Sep 2011, at 16:55, Geoff Waaler wrote: > > Greetings all, > > I'm expecting an Apple tv shortly, and recall reading that the mini USB > port is not intended for use by consumers. Is this correct? > > If so, presumably it's not possible to update the IOS version and I > will not be able to use it out of the box without getting someone to go > into settings -> general -> accessibility? > > TIA for any clarification and best regards. > Geoff > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 05:47:31 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:47:31 -0700 Subject: Monitor Wi-Fi with Lion's hidden tool In-Reply-To: <461461BB-3EBF-4697-B46B-CE6A95A24FD6@mac-access.net> References: <221CFDE4-385B-4092-80D2-AA8C85EBF895@gmail.com> <461461BB-3EBF-4697-B46B-CE6A95A24FD6@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <1BB52487-FCA3-43CA-A2BE-8BA9C816F42A@gmail.com> but at least it's another alternative. Personally I don't use ether. I just use the network tab in activity monitor On Sep 21, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sarah > > This is a bit of a falsehood I think because you can get all of the statistical info in this tool via Airport utility>manual setup>advanced>logs and statistics. I've seen this thing floating around on the internet for a few weeks, and it really isn't anything spectacular. > > Lynne > > On 21 Sep 2011, at 19:07, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > this is an interesting tidbit. > > Monitor Wi-Fi with Lion's hidden tool > > Did you know that Lion includes a small utility for monitoring several aspects of your network's Wi-Fi traffic? > > > http://macw.us/oYd3Y0 > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 09:52:00 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:52:00 +0100 Subject: Independant AppleTV setup? In-Reply-To: <23975A0869484515AAD460510BC81229@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <594D8435-4DC4-4BFB-9B24-C13D52ADD3EA@mac-access.net><6E567C90-A746-4BE0-87C6-3FF410F98EEC@mac-access.net> <23975A0869484515AAD460510BC81229@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <541C477D-B672-4DD3-A212-227CC5DE3DD1@mac-access.net> Hello Geoff I am delighted that you are all set up now. As for my help; I wish I could have provided you with more assistance. But if I did help at all then I am pleased. Lynne On 22 Sep 2011, at 03:03, Geoff Waaler wrote: For the benefit of anyone following this list who might be interested, I'm off and running and grateful to Lynne for her help. I have no light perception, yet can easily set up an Apple-TV without sighted assistance after learning how to change inputs on my TV. The first step is to set the tv's input to HDMI, and connect the ATV accordingly. The last step is to plug in the ATV and wait about 20 seconds. Samantha will then speak through your tv admonishing you to press the lower right hand button on the remote three times to enable VoiceOver, and you will be guided through the menus hence forth. Once again, excellent attentiveness to accessibility demonstrated by Apple in designing ATV's interface. From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 09:54:43 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:54:43 +0100 Subject: Independent AppleTV setup? In-Reply-To: <6AF80927DDAD43EFB82E4E8F0725EAB6@joseph1> References: <594D8435-4DC4-4BFB-9B24-C13D52ADD3EA@mac-access.net><6E567C90-A746-4BE0-87C6-3FF410F98EEC@mac-access.net> <23975A0869484515AAD460510BC81229@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <6AF80927DDAD43EFB82E4E8F0725EAB6@joseph1> Message-ID: Hello Joe The Apple TV does have a Toslink digital audio output which you can use al s an alternative in most cases to the HDMI input. But if you have neither interface then without additional converters from external sources you're up the creek without a paddle, so to speak. Lynne On 22 Sep 2011, at 03:24, joe quinn wrote: what if you're old like me, or ur tv is anyway, how much do them HDMI tv things cost? :) From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 10:48:05 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:48:05 +0100 Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox In-Reply-To: <031B6979-993D-46F5-A532-E6D69CC68C6E@mac-access.net> References: <453CD99B-6219-4E77-A2BD-FE046B705AB7@mac-access.net> <031B6979-993D-46F5-A532-E6D69CC68C6E@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8C9148E7-6BB3-4A3B-A7C5-BF966D4E3E1B@mac-access.net> Hello Lynne, Thanks for the heads up. I have already done this, but I'll try it again from scratch. The DB app under the Mac OSX folder is a UNIX exec is that right? Thanks TC :) James On 22 Sep 2011, at 00:42, Gordon Smith wrote: > James > > Drop box won't work like that in Lion. You have to open the package and then find the app under the contents/Mac OS folder and do it that way. If you've already installed it you'll have to remove the log-in item. > > That is assuming you aren't running a later version than I have here, which was a beta released about 10 days ago. > > Lynne > > On 21 Sep 2011, at 22:36, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Evening folks, > > I'm having a little trouble setting up Dropbox. I've had to create a new DB account, and have launched the app from Terminal as i did when setting up previously. Unfortunately, although I've authorised the dialogue which asks if DB should be able to accept incoming connections, I cannot find the setup window in the "Window Chooser". I am guessing that for some reason, it has not activated. I have also ensured that DB is no longer in my login items. > > Thank you for any assistance > TC :) > James > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 10:54:40 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:54:40 +0100 Subject: Trouble setting up Dropbox In-Reply-To: <8C9148E7-6BB3-4A3B-A7C5-BF966D4E3E1B@mac-access.net> References: <453CD99B-6219-4E77-A2BD-FE046B705AB7@mac-access.net> <031B6979-993D-46F5-A532-E6D69CC68C6E@mac-access.net> <8C9148E7-6BB3-4A3B-A7C5-BF966D4E3E1B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: On 22 Sep 2011, at 10:48, James AUSTIN wrote: Hello James yes; that's correct. You'll need to remove the existing instance from your log-in items under System Preferences > Users and Groups, (under Lion), I think that is under "Accounts" in Snow Leopard but, if you're installing under SL you shouldn't be a having such issues anyway. I don't think the menus are accessible under SL but the initial installation should be. Lynne Hello Lynne, Thanks for the heads up. I have already done this, but I'll try it again from scratch. The DB app under the Mac OSX folder is a UNIX exec is that right? From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 11:01:04 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:01:04 +0100 Subject: Installing Dropbox Message-ID: <129639E3-1FFD-4205-95F7-583D14D6B2DF@mac-access.net> Hello everybody OK, I just tried installing Dropbox using the suggested method of making sure that everything relating to Dropbox is deleted, (including all preference files), then opening the application from the CD image rather than the Applications folder. This method worked absolutely perfectly and we now have access to our account again using Lion. it is crucial that you delete ***EVERYTHING*** related to DropBox, including ***ALL*** preference files. If you don't, this won't work. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 13:42:17 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:42:17 +0100 Subject: iTunes; Ping Message-ID: Hello everybody Could somebody please explain to me what is "Ping" in terms of iTunes, how is it used and for what? Thanks. Lynne From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Sep 22 14:19:26 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:19:26 +0100 Subject: iTunes; Ping In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <369ABF56-D0A5-475A-99E9-9F8AB6F6F0DE@blueyonder.co.uk> Lynne, Ping is Apple's attempt at social networking. When set up, ping users are then able to follow other ping users and see what they are buying or listening too. The main aim was too allow users to see what their friends were purchasing or listening too/viewing. The other major selling point for the service was to allow fans to see what their idols are buying or have in their music collection etc. Ping was supposed to be able to link up with Facebook, but after 18 months of negotiations the deal fell apart. Ping never took off and probably won't unless Apple think about integrating it into it's forth coming iMessage service. Chris On 22 Sep 2011, at 13:42, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Could somebody please explain to me what is "Ping" in terms of iTunes, how is it used and for what? > > Thanks. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 14:30:10 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:30:10 +0100 Subject: iTunes; Ping In-Reply-To: <369ABF56-D0A5-475A-99E9-9F8AB6F6F0DE@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <369ABF56-D0A5-475A-99E9-9F8AB6F6F0DE@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <991262CF-3001-4B81-96E8-437E6EE4829B@mac-access.net> Hello Chris Thank you for the explanation. Ooh! That makes me somewhat nervous. Ping being a way for others to see what you're doing unnerves me to be honest. Thank you for the explanation. It sounds as though it's not worth bothering with. Lynne On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:19, Chris Moore wrote: Lynne, Ping is Apple's attempt at social networking. When set up, ping users are then able to follow other ping users and see what they are buying or listening too. The main aim was too allow users to see what their friends were purchasing or listening too/viewing. The other major selling point for the service was to allow fans to see what their idols are buying or have in their music collection etc. Ping was supposed to be able to link up with Facebook, but after 18 months of negotiations the deal fell apart. Ping never took off and probably won't unless Apple think about integrating it into it's forth coming iMessage service. Chris On 22 Sep 2011, at 13:42, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello everybody > > Could somebody please explain to me what is "Ping" in terms of iTunes, how is it used and for what? > > Thanks. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 14:44:40 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:44:40 +0100 Subject: what going on in safari Message-ID: <4A746855-7AE7-4023-8606-93E06E0BAE8E@gmail.com> hi all in safari now when I am downloading something in lion i see int he toolbar more toolbar items popup menu and when I hit enter on downloads, nothing happens? Also when a link is clicked why are all previously viewed pages opening at the same time? This behavior driving me mad smile From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 14:53:57 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:53:57 +0200 Subject: iTunes; Ping In-Reply-To: <369ABF56-D0A5-475A-99E9-9F8AB6F6F0DE@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <369ABF56-D0A5-475A-99E9-9F8AB6F6F0DE@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi! Ping also enables artists to make posts linking directly to their albums, or keep their followers updated with tour dates, current events, what they're doing and so-forth. Users can then comment on it and discuss it as they wish, or review user or artist profile. I personally use it on occasion, as it lets me link to Twitter so when I buy an album, I can choose to write a reason for buying the album which is then published on Twitter along with a direct link to the album in iTunes. You don't have to do this, however, so you can simply skip it. Regards, Nic On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Lynne, > > Ping is Apple's attempt at social networking. When set up, ping users are then able to follow other ping users and see what they are buying or listening too. The main aim was too allow users to see what their friends were purchasing or listening too/viewing. The other major selling point for the service was to allow fans to see what their idols are buying or have in their music collection etc. Ping was supposed to be able to link up with Facebook, but after 18 months of negotiations the deal fell apart. > > Ping never took off and probably won't unless Apple think about integrating it into it's forth coming iMessage service. > > > Chris > On 22 Sep 2011, at 13:42, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> Could somebody please explain to me what is "Ping" in terms of iTunes, how is it used and for what? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 14:57:23 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:57:23 +0100 Subject: what going on in safari In-Reply-To: <4A746855-7AE7-4023-8606-93E06E0BAE8E@gmail.com> References: <4A746855-7AE7-4023-8606-93E06E0BAE8E@gmail.com> Message-ID: William Go into system preferences > General, and turn of the Resume check box which causes all windows previous opened to trepan when you next start the app. Lynne On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:44, william lomas wrote: hi all in safari now when I am downloading something in lion i see int he toolbar more toolbar items popup menu and when I hit enter on downloads, nothing happens? Also when a link is clicked why are all previously viewed pages opening at the same time? This behavior driving me mad smile <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Sep 22 15:00:33 2011 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:00:33 +0100 Subject: iTunes; Ping In-Reply-To: References: <369ABF56-D0A5-475A-99E9-9F8AB6F6F0DE@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Nic, Can you please justify why you bought ABBA's greatest hits? You never posted why when you bought that one, did you think we would not notice? Us stalkers I mean! Then there are a great number of other artists I have to pick you up on, I can only assume you were buying them to keep your girlfriend happy :) Chris *I have no idea who Nic is on Ping and have no idea what he has been buying or what his music preferences are! it is just banter On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:53, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > Ping also enables artists to make posts linking directly to their albums, or keep their followers updated with tour dates, current events, what they're doing and so-forth. Users can then comment on it and discuss it as they wish, or review user or artist profile. > > I personally use it on occasion, as it lets me link to Twitter so when I buy an album, I can choose to write a reason for buying the album which is then published on Twitter along with a direct link to the album in iTunes. You don't have to do this, however, so you can simply skip it. > > Regards, > Nic > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Lynne, >> >> Ping is Apple's attempt at social networking. When set up, ping users are then able to follow other ping users and see what they are buying or listening too. The main aim was too allow users to see what their friends were purchasing or listening too/viewing. The other major selling point for the service was to allow fans to see what their idols are buying or have in their music collection etc. Ping was supposed to be able to link up with Facebook, but after 18 months of negotiations the deal fell apart. >> >> Ping never took off and probably won't unless Apple think about integrating it into it's forth coming iMessage service. >> >> >> Chris >> On 22 Sep 2011, at 13:42, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> Could somebody please explain to me what is "Ping" in terms of iTunes, how is it used and for what? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 15:00:56 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:00:56 +0100 Subject: iTunes; Ping In-Reply-To: References: <369ABF56-D0A5-475A-99E9-9F8AB6F6F0DE@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <7ACE8645-E2FC-4AE5-B566-84B18F452697@mac-access.net> Hello Nic The thought of users being able to see my network usage unnerves me, to be honest. Or at least sharing our buying information unnerves me. But I can see the advantage of it in some respects. Lynne On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:53, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi! Ping also enables artists to make posts linking directly to their albums, or keep their followers updated with tour dates, current events, what they're doing and so-forth. Users can then comment on it and discuss it as they wish, or review user or artist profile. I personally use it on occasion, as it lets me link to Twitter so when I buy an album, I can choose to write a reason for buying the album which is then published on Twitter along with a direct link to the album in iTunes. You don't have to do this, however, so you can simply skip it. Regards, Nic On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Lynne, > > Ping is Apple's attempt at social networking. When set up, ping users are then able to follow other ping users and see what they are buying or listening too. The main aim was too allow users to see what their friends were purchasing or listening too/viewing. The other major selling point for the service was to allow fans to see what their idols are buying or have in their music collection etc. Ping was supposed to be able to link up with Facebook, but after 18 months of negotiations the deal fell apart. > > Ping never took off and probably won't unless Apple think about integrating it into it's forth coming iMessage service. > > > Chris > On 22 Sep 2011, at 13:42, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello everybody >> >> Could somebody please explain to me what is "Ping" in terms of iTunes, how is it used and for what? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Sep 22 15:15:53 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:15:53 +0100 Subject: tunnelblick again. Message-ID: Just another note. It's amazing what you discover from poking around in settings. There is now a shortcut key which enables one to get to the Tunnelblick menu. So, even though the VO command doesn't pick up the icon in the status menu, one doesn't need it. They have also added sounds to inform users when a connection is established /interrupted. D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 15:17:03 2011 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:17:03 +0200 Subject: iTunes; Ping In-Reply-To: <7ACE8645-E2FC-4AE5-B566-84B18F452697@mac-access.net> References: <369ABF56-D0A5-475A-99E9-9F8AB6F6F0DE@blueyonder.co.uk> <7ACE8645-E2FC-4AE5-B566-84B18F452697@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne, As I said, it is all optional. You can turn it off entirely if you so wish, or only elect to share certain purchases. The sharing is never automatic. Regards, Nic On Sep 22, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > The thought of users being able to see my network usage unnerves me, to be honest. Or at least sharing our buying information unnerves me. But I can see the advantage of it in some respects. > > Lynne > > > On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:53, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi! > > Ping also enables artists to make posts linking directly to their albums, or keep their followers updated with tour dates, current events, what they're doing and so-forth. Users can then comment on it and discuss it as they wish, or review user or artist profile. > > I personally use it on occasion, as it lets me link to Twitter so when I buy an album, I can choose to write a reason for buying the album which is then published on Twitter along with a direct link to the album in iTunes. You don't have to do this, however, so you can simply skip it. > > Regards, > Nic > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Lynne, >> >> Ping is Apple's attempt at social networking. When set up, ping users are then able to follow other ping users and see what they are buying or listening too. The main aim was too allow users to see what their friends were purchasing or listening too/viewing. The other major selling point for the service was to allow fans to see what their idols are buying or have in their music collection etc. Ping was supposed to be able to link up with Facebook, but after 18 months of negotiations the deal fell apart. >> >> Ping never took off and probably won't unless Apple think about integrating it into it's forth coming iMessage service. >> >> >> Chris >> On 22 Sep 2011, at 13:42, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> Could somebody please explain to me what is "Ping" in terms of iTunes, how is it used and for what? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 16:28:05 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:28:05 +0100 Subject: tunnelblick again. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79B354C2-F83C-4DD2-9F4A-83C13FAF9996@mac-access.net> Donal Is this just a client or a server as well? We are wondering if there's an easier option to Apple's VPN. This is something we are looking to set up imminently. Lyne On 22 Sep 2011, at 15:15, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Just another note. It's amazing what you discover from poking around in settings. There is now a shortcut key which enables one to get to the Tunnelblick menu. So, even though the VO command doesn't pick up the icon in the status menu, one doesn't need it. They have also added sounds to inform users when a connection is established /interrupted. D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 16:29:30 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:29:30 +0100 Subject: iTunes; Ping In-Reply-To: References: <369ABF56-D0A5-475A-99E9-9F8AB6F6F0DE@blueyonder.co.uk> <7ACE8645-E2FC-4AE5-B566-84B18F452697@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Nic Thanks for that confirmation. Lynne On 22 Sep 2011, at 15:17, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Lynne, As I said, it is all optional. You can turn it off entirely if you so wish, or only elect to share certain purchases. The sharing is never automatic. Regards, Nic On Sep 22, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Nic > > The thought of users being able to see my network usage unnerves me, to be honest. Or at least sharing our buying information unnerves me. But I can see the advantage of it in some respects. > > Lynne > > > On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:53, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi! > > Ping also enables artists to make posts linking directly to their albums, or keep their followers updated with tour dates, current events, what they're doing and so-forth. Users can then comment on it and discuss it as they wish, or review user or artist profile. > > I personally use it on occasion, as it lets me link to Twitter so when I buy an album, I can choose to write a reason for buying the album which is then published on Twitter along with a direct link to the album in iTunes. You don't have to do this, however, so you can simply skip it. > > Regards, > Nic > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Lynne, >> >> Ping is Apple's attempt at social networking. When set up, ping users are then able to follow other ping users and see what they are buying or listening too. The main aim was too allow users to see what their friends were purchasing or listening too/viewing. The other major selling point for the service was to allow fans to see what their idols are buying or have in their music collection etc. Ping was supposed to be able to link up with Facebook, but after 18 months of negotiations the deal fell apart. >> >> Ping never took off and probably won't unless Apple think about integrating it into it's forth coming iMessage service. >> >> >> Chris >> On 22 Sep 2011, at 13:42, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody >>> >>> Could somebody please explain to me what is "Ping" in terms of iTunes, how is it used and for what? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 17:43:49 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:43:49 -0700 Subject: what going on in safari In-Reply-To: References: <4A746855-7AE7-4023-8606-93E06E0BAE8E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43EB219C-7107-41EC-94BD-05BDBE098DE4@gmail.com> Actually you can easily do this for an individual app. I thought I posted a blog about this but 1. go in to ~username/library/Saved Application State and look for the com.apple.Safari.savedState folder. 2. delete all contents with in the folder. 3. hit cmd I. once you back out and are having that safari folder selected. 4. check the Locked check box 5. hit cmd w. Now when you open just safari you will be able to not have it happen. this prevents the all or nothing approach as some apps I want to have this behavior. Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > William > > Go into system preferences > General, and turn of the Resume check box which causes all windows previous opened to trepan when you next start the app. > > Lynne > > On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:44, william lomas wrote: > > hi all in safari now when I am downloading something in lion i see int he toolbar more toolbar items popup menu and when I hit enter on downloads, nothing happens? > Also when a link is clicked why are all previously viewed pages opening at the same time? > This behavior driving me mad smile > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 18:15:20 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:15:20 +0100 Subject: what going on in safari In-Reply-To: <43EB219C-7107-41EC-94BD-05BDBE098DE4@gmail.com> References: <4A746855-7AE7-4023-8606-93E06E0BAE8E@gmail.com> <43EB219C-7107-41EC-94BD-05BDBE098DE4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <32FFFDD4-BE8C-405A-9FE3-7541DB3443A4@gmail.com> thanks for this and how do I please see my downloads window? On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually you can easily do this for an individual app. I thought I posted a blog about this but > > 1. go in to ~username/library/Saved Application State and look for the com.apple.Safari.savedState folder. > > 2. delete all contents with in the folder. > > 3. hit cmd I. once you back out and are having that safari folder selected. > 4. check the Locked check box > > 5. hit cmd w. Now when you open just safari you will be able to not have it happen. this prevents the all or nothing approach as some apps I want to have this behavior. > > Take care all. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> William >> >> Go into system preferences > General, and turn of the Resume check box which causes all windows previous opened to trepan when you next start the app. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:44, william lomas wrote: >> >> hi all in safari now when I am downloading something in lion i see int he toolbar more toolbar items popup menu and when I hit enter on downloads, nothing happens? >> Also when a link is clicked why are all previously viewed pages opening at the same time? >> This behavior driving me mad smile >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Sep 22 18:42:32 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:42:32 +0100 Subject: tunnelblick again. In-Reply-To: <79B354C2-F83C-4DD2-9F4A-83C13FAF9996@mac-access.net> References: <79B354C2-F83C-4DD2-9F4A-83C13FAF9996@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Evening Lynne, Tunnelblick is a GUI front end for the OpenVPN client-server architecture. I have to say that, entirely off his own bat the developer has tried, and mostly succeeded, in making the app accessible. There are about 4 buttons that aren't accessible, but he knows it and is looking for fix(es). I'm working with him on it. Whether it would suit your needs I've no idea. All the best, D?nal On 22 Sep 2011, at 16:28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Donal > > Is this just a client or a server as well? > > We are wondering if there's an easier option to Apple's VPN. > > This is something we are looking to set up imminently. > > Lyne > > On 22 Sep 2011, at 15:15, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Just another note. It's amazing what you discover from poking around in settings. There is now a shortcut key which enables one to get to the Tunnelblick menu. So, even though the VO command doesn't pick up the icon in the status menu, one doesn't need it. They have also added sounds to inform users when a connection is established /interrupted. > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From mike at busboom.at Thu Sep 22 18:44:49 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:44:49 +0200 Subject: DAISY Reader for the Mac? Message-ID: <6805CF2C-3421-43F5-8CF9-F7E290FD6F68@busboom.at> Hello everyone, I frequently need to read material that is in the DAISY format. The way I do it now is to download the material to my Mac and then transfer it to my Victor Reader Stream. While this solution works, it isn't always the most convenient. Does anyone know of a program that will let a person read books and articles in the DAISY format on the Mac? I know that apps are available for iPhones, but I would really like something for the Mac. In case there is any confusion, I am not referring to audio files with the DAISY mark-up. Thank you, Mike From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 19:08:17 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:08:17 +0100 Subject: what going on in safari In-Reply-To: <32FFFDD4-BE8C-405A-9FE3-7541DB3443A4@gmail.com> References: <4A746855-7AE7-4023-8606-93E06E0BAE8E@gmail.com> <43EB219C-7107-41EC-94BD-05BDBE098DE4@gmail.com> <32FFFDD4-BE8C-405A-9FE3-7541DB3443A4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <711DEA21-30BC-465F-8D26-5370AAD90667@mac-access.net> Do you mean inSafari? If so, then when a download is in progress, use the item chooser menu to search for download. Then you'll find the "Downloads" button. Click on this with VO and you'll be presented with an area that you can interact with to see the current progress of your downloads. TC :) James On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:15, william lomas wrote: > thanks for this and how do I please see my downloads window? > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually you can easily do this for an individual app. I thought I posted a blog about this but >> >> 1. go in to ~username/library/Saved Application State and look for the com.apple.Safari.savedState folder. >> >> 2. delete all contents with in the folder. >> >> 3. hit cmd I. once you back out and are having that safari folder selected. >> 4. check the Locked check box >> >> 5. hit cmd w. Now when you open just safari you will be able to not have it happen. this prevents the all or nothing approach as some apps I want to have this behavior. >> >> Take care all. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> William >>> >>> Go into system preferences > General, and turn of the Resume check box which causes all windows previous opened to trepan when you next start the app. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:44, william lomas wrote: >>> >>> hi all in safari now when I am downloading something in lion i see int he toolbar more toolbar items popup menu and when I hit enter on downloads, nothing happens? >>> Also when a link is clicked why are all previously viewed pages opening at the same time? >>> This behavior driving me mad smile >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 19:09:29 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:09:29 +0100 Subject: what going on in safari In-Reply-To: <711DEA21-30BC-465F-8D26-5370AAD90667@mac-access.net> References: <4A746855-7AE7-4023-8606-93E06E0BAE8E@gmail.com> <43EB219C-7107-41EC-94BD-05BDBE098DE4@gmail.com> <32FFFDD4-BE8C-405A-9FE3-7541DB3443A4@gmail.com> <711DEA21-30BC-465F-8D26-5370AAD90667@mac-access.net> Message-ID: i thought it was in t e toolbar but the button is not there now in safari On Sep 22, 2011, at 7:08 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Do you mean inSafari? If so, then when a download is in progress, use the item chooser menu to search for download. Then you'll find the "Downloads" button. Click on this with VO and you'll be presented with an area that you can interact with to see the current progress of your downloads. > > TC :) > James > On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:15, william lomas wrote: > >> thanks for this and how do I please see my downloads window? >> >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually you can easily do this for an individual app. I thought I posted a blog about this but >>> >>> 1. go in to ~username/library/Saved Application State and look for the com.apple.Safari.savedState folder. >>> >>> 2. delete all contents with in the folder. >>> >>> 3. hit cmd I. once you back out and are having that safari folder selected. >>> 4. check the Locked check box >>> >>> 5. hit cmd w. Now when you open just safari you will be able to not have it happen. this prevents the all or nothing approach as some apps I want to have this behavior. >>> >>> Take care all. >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> William >>>> >>>> Go into system preferences > General, and turn of the Resume check box which causes all windows previous opened to trepan when you next start the app. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:44, william lomas wrote: >>>> >>>> hi all in safari now when I am downloading something in lion i see int he toolbar more toolbar items popup menu and when I hit enter on downloads, nothing happens? >>>> Also when a link is clicked why are all previously viewed pages opening at the same time? >>>> This behavior driving me mad smile >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 19:13:36 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:13:36 +0100 Subject: DAISY Reader for the Mac? In-Reply-To: <6805CF2C-3421-43F5-8CF9-F7E290FD6F68@busboom.at> References: <6805CF2C-3421-43F5-8CF9-F7E290FD6F68@busboom.at> Message-ID: <74A2BC33-2B1B-4B4F-B0DF-C143B619CF7F@mac-access.net> Hi Mike, There is Olearia from The Curtain University. I do not think there is a version specifically for OS X 10.7, but as other apps I use have not been specifically designed for 10.7 and seem to work fine, I see no reason why Olearia shouldn't. Get it here: http://www.cucat.org/projects/olearia/ TC :) james On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:44, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I frequently need to read material that is in the DAISY format. The way I do it now is to download the material to my Mac and then transfer it to my Victor Reader Stream. While this solution works, it isn't always the most convenient. Does anyone know of a program that will let a person read books and articles in the DAISY format on the Mac? I know that apps are available for iPhones, but I would really like something for the Mac. In case there is any confusion, I am not referring to audio files with the DAISY mark-up. > > Thank you, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dragoncatmc at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 19:17:25 2011 From: dragoncatmc at gmail.com (Marcia Yale) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:17:25 -0400 Subject: ITunes help Message-ID: <029101cc7953$e2b4fbe0$a81ef3a0$@gmail.com> I am looking for a decent tutorial or guide to using ITunes with VoiceOver as the Mac 101 tutorial just didn't cut it. I am having difficulty getting my head around how it is organized and how to find music and keep it organized and also how to make sure radio stations I link to will stay in ITunes so I don't have to go searching for them again. I guess what I am trying to say is that I would really like an actual manual which explains the software and how to use it! Any suggestions would be appreciated. Marcia Yale "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day I can hear her breathing."--Arundhati Roy From moopiecurran at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 19:20:02 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:20:02 -0400 Subject: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? Message-ID: <4EC03FA7-EC3C-4B4B-ADB9-B1EA5E61B05E@gmail.com> Hi, I'm planning to do a clean install of lion on my 2009 mac mini. But I'm curious, how do I restore my stuff, for example, internet key codes, application keys, and all my files. I have my mini backed up with Super Duper. Is this even possible, especially the restoration of all the key codes, so I don't have to ask for sighted help to read me the codes? Thanks, Courtney From moriond at mac.com Thu Sep 22 18:48:18 2011 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:48:18 -1000 Subject: tunnelblick again. In-Reply-To: <79B354C2-F83C-4DD2-9F4A-83C13FAF9996@mac-access.net> References: <79B354C2-F83C-4DD2-9F4A-83C13FAF9996@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <930C4F8B-6C23-4285-85F0-AA381D619654@mac.com> Hi Lynne, D?nal can correct me if I'm wrong, but Tunnelblick is a free, open-source graphical user interface for OpenVPN on Mac OSX, and can be used for client and/or server. As I recall, D?nal originally needed to work with the OpenVPN standard adopted by his university. At the time, I suggested that Viscosity (another interface) might work, because it had hooks to make it AppleScriptable to get around the accessibility issues of the status menu bar icon. But it seems as though Tunnelblick now supports both AppleScripting and access to the menu bar functions. (Amazing how the apps are stepping up to this solution now, I'm waiting for Dropbox to come out with a solution.) HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 22, 2011, at 05:28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Donal > > Is this just a client or a server as well? > > We are wondering if there's an easier option to Apple's VPN. > > This is something we are looking to set up imminently. > > Lyne > > On 22 Sep 2011, at 15:15, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Just another note. It's amazing what you discover from poking around in settings. There is now a shortcut key which enables one to get to the Tunnelblick menu. So, even though the VO command doesn't pick up the icon in the status menu, one doesn't need it. They have also added sounds to inform users when a connection is established /interrupted. > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > From mike at busboom.at Thu Sep 22 19:33:44 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:33:44 +0200 Subject: DAISY Reader for the Mac? In-Reply-To: <74A2BC33-2B1B-4B4F-B0DF-C143B619CF7F@mac-access.net> References: <6805CF2C-3421-43F5-8CF9-F7E290FD6F68@busboom.at> <74A2BC33-2B1B-4B4F-B0DF-C143B619CF7F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <41ECCFF4-5003-4A4E-90CB-85636E0760E3@busboom.at> Hi James, Thank you very much for responding so quickly. I was gratified to know that there was something available for the Mac. The software that you pointed me to looks ultimately promising, but it is still in Beta, and I immediately encountered problems that probably won't occur in final releases. When I tried to read a newspaper in DAISY format which I had downloaded from Bookshare, I was told that my audio file could not be read. I will spend more time on the Olearia web page to learn more about the software. Furthermore, I will report this bug. I believe that it will be well worthwhile to send the developers feedback since we really do need a piece of software that allows us to read DAISY texts on our desktop computers. Thanks again, Mike On 22,Sep,2011, at 8:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Mike, > > There is Olearia from The Curtain University. I do not think there is a version specifically for OS X 10.7, but as other apps I use have not been specifically designed for 10.7 and seem to work fine, I see no reason why Olearia shouldn't. > > Get it here: http://www.cucat.org/projects/olearia/ > > TC :) > james > On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:44, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I frequently need to read material that is in the DAISY format. The way I do it now is to download the material to my Mac and then transfer it to my Victor Reader Stream. While this solution works, it isn't always the most convenient. Does anyone know of a program that will let a person read books and articles in the DAISY format on the Mac? I know that apps are available for iPhones, but I would really like something for the Mac. In case there is any confusion, I am not referring to audio files with the DAISY mark-up. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Mike >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Sep 22 20:01:19 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:01:19 +0100 Subject: tunnelblick again. In-Reply-To: <930C4F8B-6C23-4285-85F0-AA381D619654@mac.com> References: <79B354C2-F83C-4DD2-9F4A-83C13FAF9996@mac-access.net> <930C4F8B-6C23-4285-85F0-AA381D619654@mac.com> Message-ID: <1E571777-19EA-4D41-B240-6E1F94B08BFC@computing.dcu.ie> Absolutely spot on Esther. He (the developer) even said that the addition of the keyboard shortcut and the various sounds was his idea in order to overcome the voiceover/status menu limitations. This, incidentally, is a biiig failing on Apple's part. I would have hoped that the inaccessibility of those extra status icons would have been fixed. There is a work around for developers, but Apple don't like you to use it. As an aside, I'd love to know how Radium have managed it. anyone on good terms with any of the devs over there? D?nal On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:48, Esther wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > D?nal can correct me if I'm wrong, but Tunnelblick is a free, open-source graphical user interface for OpenVPN on Mac OSX, and can be used for client and/or server. As I recall, D?nal originally needed to work with the OpenVPN standard adopted by his university. At the time, I suggested that Viscosity (another interface) might work, because it had hooks to make it AppleScriptable to get around the accessibility issues of the status menu bar icon. But it seems as though Tunnelblick now supports both AppleScripting and access to the menu bar functions. (Amazing how the apps are stepping up to this solution now, I'm waiting for Dropbox to come out with a solution.) > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 05:28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Donal >> >> Is this just a client or a server as well? >> >> We are wondering if there's an easier option to Apple's VPN. >> >> This is something we are looking to set up imminently. >> >> Lyne >> >> On 22 Sep 2011, at 15:15, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> Just another note. It's amazing what you discover from poking around in settings. There is now a shortcut key which enables one to get to the Tunnelblick menu. So, even though the VO command doesn't pick up the icon in the status menu, one doesn't need it. They have also added sounds to inform users when a connection is established /interrupted. >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Sep 22 19:46:43 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:46:43 +0100 Subject: tunnelblick again. In-Reply-To: <930C4F8B-6C23-4285-85F0-AA381D619654@mac.com> References: <79B354C2-F83C-4DD2-9F4A-83C13FAF9996@mac-access.net> <930C4F8B-6C23-4285-85F0-AA381D619654@mac.com> Message-ID: Absolutely spot on Esther. He (the developer) even said that the addition of the keyboard shortcut and the various sounds was his idea in order to overcome the voiceover/status menu limitations. This, incidentally, is a biiig failing on Apple's part. I would have hoped that the inaccessibility of those extra status icons would have been fixed. There is a work around for developers, but Apple don't like you to use it. As an aside, I'd love to know how Radium have managed it. anyone on good terms with any of the devs over there? D?nal On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:48, Esther wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > D?nal can correct me if I'm wrong, but Tunnelblick is a free, open-source graphical user interface for OpenVPN on Mac OSX, and can be used for client and/or server. As I recall, D?nal originally needed to work with the OpenVPN standard adopted by his university. At the time, I suggested that Viscosity (another interface) might work, because it had hooks to make it AppleScriptable to get around the accessibility issues of the status menu bar icon. But it seems as though Tunnelblick now supports both AppleScripting and access to the menu bar functions. (Amazing how the apps are stepping up to this solution now, I'm waiting for Dropbox to come out with a solution.) > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 05:28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Donal >> >> Is this just a client or a server as well? >> >> We are wondering if there's an easier option to Apple's VPN. >> >> This is something we are looking to set up imminently. >> >> Lyne >> >> On 22 Sep 2011, at 15:15, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> Just another note. It's amazing what you discover from poking around in settings. There is now a shortcut key which enables one to get to the Tunnelblick menu. So, even though the VO command doesn't pick up the icon in the status menu, one doesn't need it. They have also added sounds to inform users when a connection is established /interrupted. >> >> D?nal >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Sep 22 20:04:58 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:04:58 +0100 Subject: multiple addressbooks Message-ID: <8447DCC1-8DDF-4B55-8652-7E2A1F163EBB@computing.dcu.ie> Evening all, Well I finally braved the "previous recipients" window in mail and realised that there were rather a lot of addresses in there that, for some reason, hadn't ended up in my address book. So now they're all there I'm looking at some kind of organisational structure on the whole thing. The obvious way of course is to separate them in groups and/or smart groups which is no problem at all. However, just like the good old days of paper, I'd actually like two separate address books one for personal contacts one for work. I don't think this is feasible, but I'm open to ideas. Cheers, D?nal D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From zkline at speedpost.net Thu Sep 22 20:11:26 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:11:26 -0700 Subject: tunnelblick again. In-Reply-To: References: <79B354C2-F83C-4DD2-9F4A-83C13FAF9996@mac-access.net> <930C4F8B-6C23-4285-85F0-AA381D619654@mac.com> Message-ID: <9493F13F-2B4B-407E-8BE5-CC9829CC50E3@speedpost.net> Hi Donal and all, I'd be interested in hearing more about this workaround, and what you mean by Apple not wanting developers to use it. Is it really Apple's fault that third-party developers aren't making their status menus accessible? I'm not trying to play devil's advocate here, just interested in understanding exactly what's going on and what can be done about it. Best, Zack. On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:46 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Absolutely spot on Esther. He (the developer) even said that the addition of the keyboard shortcut and the various sounds was his idea in order to overcome the voiceover/status menu limitations. This, incidentally, is a biiig failing on Apple's part. I would have hoped that the inaccessibility of those extra status icons would have been fixed. There is a work around for developers, but Apple don't like you to use it. As an aside, I'd love to know how Radium have managed it. anyone on good terms with any of the devs over there? > > D?nal > On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:48, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Lynne, >> >> D?nal can correct me if I'm wrong, but Tunnelblick is a free, open-source graphical user interface for OpenVPN on Mac OSX, and can be used for client and/or server. As I recall, D?nal originally needed to work with the OpenVPN standard adopted by his university. At the time, I suggested that Viscosity (another interface) might work, because it had hooks to make it AppleScriptable to get around the accessibility issues of the status menu bar icon. But it seems as though Tunnelblick now supports both AppleScripting and access to the menu bar functions. (Amazing how the apps are stepping up to this solution now, I'm waiting for Dropbox to come out with a solution.) >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 05:28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Donal >>> >>> Is this just a client or a server as well? >>> >>> We are wondering if there's an easier option to Apple's VPN. >>> >>> This is something we are looking to set up imminently. >>> >>> Lyne >>> >>> On 22 Sep 2011, at 15:15, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>> Just another note. It's amazing what you discover from poking around in settings. There is now a shortcut key which enables one to get to the Tunnelblick menu. So, even though the VO command doesn't pick up the icon in the status menu, one doesn't need it. They have also added sounds to inform users when a connection is established /interrupted. >>> >>> D?nal >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Thu Sep 22 20:22:22 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:22:22 +0100 Subject: tunnelblick again. In-Reply-To: <9493F13F-2B4B-407E-8BE5-CC9829CC50E3@speedpost.net> References: <79B354C2-F83C-4DD2-9F4A-83C13FAF9996@mac-access.net> <930C4F8B-6C23-4285-85F0-AA381D619654@mac.com> <9493F13F-2B4B-407E-8BE5-CC9829CC50E3@speedpost.net> Message-ID: NOt at all Zak. Ok in order to put a status menu up there, you need to give it a certain window-type. I don't know if you are/were a jaws user, but using that screenreader you could get at this type of info under windows. So the devs are using the correct window-type (as specified by apple) for these extra menu items. However this type of window class isn't accessible with VO. So the workaround, believe it or not, is to use the same type of window-designation as the standard status menu items; spotlight, volume control, battery status on laptops etc. VO detects this type of menu, but not (as I said earlier) the extra ones. Cheers, D?nal On 22 Sep 2011, at 20:11, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Donal and all, > I'd be interested in hearing more about this workaround, and what you mean by Apple not wanting developers to use it. Is it really Apple's fault that third-party developers aren't making their status menus accessible? I'm not trying to play devil's advocate here, just interested in understanding exactly what's going on and what can be done about it. > Best, > Zack. > On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:46 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Absolutely spot on Esther. He (the developer) even said that the addition of the keyboard shortcut and the various sounds was his idea in order to overcome the voiceover/status menu limitations. This, incidentally, is a biiig failing on Apple's part. I would have hoped that the inaccessibility of those extra status icons would have been fixed. There is a work around for developers, but Apple don't like you to use it. As an aside, I'd love to know how Radium have managed it. anyone on good terms with any of the devs over there? >> >> D?nal >> On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:48, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Lynne, >>> >>> D?nal can correct me if I'm wrong, but Tunnelblick is a free, open-source graphical user interface for OpenVPN on Mac OSX, and can be used for client and/or server. As I recall, D?nal originally needed to work with the OpenVPN standard adopted by his university. At the time, I suggested that Viscosity (another interface) might work, because it had hooks to make it AppleScriptable to get around the accessibility issues of the status menu bar icon. But it seems as though Tunnelblick now supports both AppleScripting and access to the menu bar functions. (Amazing how the apps are stepping up to this solution now, I'm waiting for Dropbox to come out with a solution.) >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 05:28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Donal >>>> >>>> Is this just a client or a server as well? >>>> >>>> We are wondering if there's an easier option to Apple's VPN. >>>> >>>> This is something we are looking to set up imminently. >>>> >>>> Lyne >>>> >>>> On 22 Sep 2011, at 15:15, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>> >>>> Just another note. It's amazing what you discover from poking around in settings. There is now a shortcut key which enables one to get to the Tunnelblick menu. So, even though the VO command doesn't pick up the icon in the status menu, one doesn't need it. They have also added sounds to inform users when a connection is established /interrupted. >>>> >>>> D?nal >>>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 20:22:45 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:22:45 -0700 Subject: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? In-Reply-To: <4EC03FA7-EC3C-4B4B-ADB9-B1EA5E61B05E@gmail.com> References: <4EC03FA7-EC3C-4B4B-ADB9-B1EA5E61B05E@gmail.com> Message-ID: If you have a bootable back up you can restore wtih super duper. Now I don't use super duper but you should be able to do a bootable back up and restore everything including apps, keys, passwords, etc. Take care. On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I'm planning to do a clean install of lion on my 2009 mac mini. But I'm curious, how do I restore my stuff, for example, internet key codes, application keys, and all my files. I have my mini backed up with Super Duper. Is this even possible, especially the restoration of all the key codes, so I don't have to ask for sighted help to read me the codes? > > Thanks, > Courtney > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 20:21:32 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:21:32 -0700 Subject: multiple addressbooks In-Reply-To: <8447DCC1-8DDF-4B55-8652-7E2A1F163EBB@computing.dcu.ie> References: <8447DCC1-8DDF-4B55-8652-7E2A1F163EBB@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <02F3A1CA-83D3-43AE-9825-15153739D954@gmail.com> I don't think that is doable. that would be nice though if it could be done. If it can be done I'd also like to know. I do have it in groups and that helps for my EBlasts I send out but yeah I see what you mean. Take care all. On Sep 22, 2011, at 12:04 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Evening all, > > Well I finally braved the "previous recipients" window in mail and realised that there were rather a lot of addresses in there that, for some reason, hadn't ended up in my address book. So now they're all there I'm looking at some kind of organisational structure on the whole thing. > > The obvious way of course is to separate them in groups and/or smart groups which is no problem at all. However, just like the good old days of paper, I'd actually like two separate address books one for personal contacts one for work. I don't think this is feasible, but I'm open to ideas. > > Cheers, > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 20:30:46 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:30:46 -0400 Subject: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? In-Reply-To: References: <4EC03FA7-EC3C-4B4B-ADB9-B1EA5E61B05E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <432BCE18-578F-432A-BF38-91FA98B56EB6@gmail.com> Hi, Thanks for this, but won't that restore me back to SL, if I back up before I clean install? The backup I have is bootable. Thanks, Courtney On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > If you have a bootable back up you can restore wtih super duper. Now I don't use super duper but you should be able to do a bootable back up and restore everything including apps, keys, passwords, etc. > > Take care. > On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm planning to do a clean install of lion on my 2009 mac mini. But I'm curious, how do I restore my stuff, for example, internet key codes, application keys, and all my files. I have my mini backed up with Super Duper. Is this even possible, especially the restoration of all the key codes, so I don't have to ask for sighted help to read me the codes? >> >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Thu Sep 22 21:01:04 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (gunn at tznet.com) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:01:04 -0400 Subject: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? Message-ID: <380-2201194222014460@M2W135.mail2web.com> Hello Courtney: You are correct, andI would suggest if you can do a TimeMachine backup and after installing Lion, you'll be asked if you want to restore from a TimeMachine backup. John Gunn Original Message: ----------------- From: Courtney Curran moopiecurran at gmail.com Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:30:46 -0400 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Re: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? Hi, Thanks for this, but won't that restore me back to SL, if I back up before I clean install? The backup I have is bootable. Thanks, Courtney On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > If you have a bootable back up you can restore wtih super duper. Now I don't use super duper but you should be able to do a bootable back up and restore everything including apps, keys, passwords, etc. > > Take care. > On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm planning to do a clean install of lion on my 2009 mac mini. But I'm curious, how do I restore my stuff, for example, internet key codes, application keys, and all my files. I have my mini backed up with Super Duper. Is this even possible, especially the restoration of all the key codes, so I don't have to ask for sighted help to read me the codes? >> >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From moopiecurran at gmail.com Thu Sep 22 21:14:50 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:14:50 -0400 Subject: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? In-Reply-To: <380-2201194222014460@M2W135.mail2web.com> References: <380-2201194222014460@M2W135.mail2web.com> Message-ID: Hi, As I don't have an extra hard drive to erase and back up with time machine, is there any way I can use super duper? Thanks, Courtney On Sep 22, 2011, at 4:01 PM, gunn at tznet.com wrote: > Hello Courtney: > > You are correct, andI would suggest if you can do a TimeMachine backup and > after installing Lion, you'll be asked if you want to restore from a > TimeMachine backup. > > John Gunn > > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Courtney Curran moopiecurran at gmail.com > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:30:46 -0400 > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Subject: Re: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? > > > Hi, > Thanks for this, but won't that restore me back to SL, if I back up before > I clean install? The backup I have is bootable. > Thanks, > Courtney > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> If you have a bootable back up you can restore wtih super duper. Now I > don't use super duper but you should be able to do a bootable back up and > restore everything including apps, keys, passwords, etc. >> >> Take care. >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I'm planning to do a clean install of lion on my 2009 mac mini. But I'm > curious, how do I restore my stuff, for example, internet key codes, > application keys, and all my files. I have my mini backed up with Super > Duper. Is this even possible, especially the restoration of all the key > codes, so I don't have to ask for sighted help to read me the codes? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 22:35:12 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:35:12 +0100 Subject: tunnelblick again. In-Reply-To: References: <79B354C2-F83C-4DD2-9F4A-83C13FAF9996@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello Donal I'll have a look on the google-woogle website and I'm sure I'll find it. Then we will know. Thank you. Lynne On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:42, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: Evening Lynne, Tunnelblick is a GUI front end for the OpenVPN client-server architecture. I have to say that, entirely off his own bat the developer has tried, and mostly succeeded, in making the app accessible. There are about 4 buttons that aren't accessible, but he knows it and is looking for fix(es). I'm working with him on it. Whether it would suit your needs I've no idea. All the best, D?nal On 22 Sep 2011, at 16:28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Donal > > Is this just a client or a server as well? > > We are wondering if there's an easier option to Apple's VPN. > > This is something we are looking to set up imminently. > > Lyne > > On 22 Sep 2011, at 15:15, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Just another note. It's amazing what you discover from poking around in settings. There is now a shortcut key which enables one to get to the Tunnelblick menu. So, even though the VO command doesn't pick up the icon in the status menu, one doesn't need it. They have also added sounds to inform users when a connection is established /interrupted. > > D?nal > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 22:39:45 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:39:45 +0100 Subject: DAISY Reader for the Mac? In-Reply-To: <6805CF2C-3421-43F5-8CF9-F7E290FD6F68@busboom.at> References: <6805CF2C-3421-43F5-8CF9-F7E290FD6F68@busboom.at> Message-ID: Michael There are two solutions I know of: 1. Oleria which is a free reader. 2. GH Accessibility's "ReadHear" which is somewhat more expensive but it's also got more features. The former doesn't supports library or anything flash; but it plays your files. The second one supports full library functions and is also more proactive to the user. We personally use ReadHear; but it isn't to everybody's needs or liking. Just do a google for them and I'm sure you'll find them. If not let us know. Onh hang on, I think ReadHear is at http://www.gh-accessibility.com but I can't off hand remember the URL for Oleria. Lynne Lynne On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:44, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello everyone, I frequently need to read material that is in the DAISY format. The way I do it now is to download the material to my Mac and then transfer it to my Victor Reader Stream. While this solution works, it isn't always the most convenient. Does anyone know of a program that will let a person read books and articles in the DAISY format on the Mac? I know that apps are available for iPhones, but I would really like something for the Mac. In case there is any confusion, I am not referring to audio files with the DAISY mark-up. Thank you, Mike <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 22:41:52 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:41:52 +0100 Subject: what going on in safari In-Reply-To: <711DEA21-30BC-465F-8D26-5370AAD90667@mac-access.net> References: <4A746855-7AE7-4023-8606-93E06E0BAE8E@gmail.com> <43EB219C-7107-41EC-94BD-05BDBE098DE4@gmail.com> <32FFFDD4-BE8C-405A-9FE3-7541DB3443A4@gmail.com> <711DEA21-30BC-465F-8D26-5370AAD90667@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello James In fairness to William, this sometimes isn't the case. It seems to disappear, as it has on our system. Lynne On 22 Sep 2011, at 19:08, James AUSTIN wrote: Do you mean inSafari? If so, then when a download is in progress, use the item chooser menu to search for download. Then you'll find the "Downloads" button. Click on this with VO and you'll be presented with an area that you can interact with to see the current progress of your downloads. TC :) James On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:15, william lomas wrote: > thanks for this and how do I please see my downloads window? > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually you can easily do this for an individual app. I thought I posted a blog about this but >> >> 1. go in to ~username/library/Saved Application State and look for the com.apple.Safari.savedState folder. >> >> 2. delete all contents with in the folder. >> >> 3. hit cmd I. once you back out and are having that safari folder selected. >> 4. check the Locked check box >> >> 5. hit cmd w. Now when you open just safari you will be able to not have it happen. this prevents the all or nothing approach as some apps I want to have this behavior. >> >> Take care all. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> William >>> >>> Go into system preferences > General, and turn of the Resume check box which causes all windows previous opened to trepan when you next start the app. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:44, william lomas wrote: >>> >>> hi all in safari now when I am downloading something in lion i see int he toolbar more toolbar items popup menu and when I hit enter on downloads, nothing happens? >>> Also when a link is clicked why are all previously viewed pages opening at the same time? >>> This behavior driving me mad smile >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 22:44:53 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:44:53 +0100 Subject: what going on in safari In-Reply-To: References: <4A746855-7AE7-4023-8606-93E06E0BAE8E@gmail.com> <43EB219C-7107-41EC-94BD-05BDBE098DE4@gmail.com> <32FFFDD4-BE8C-405A-9FE3-7541DB3443A4@gmail.com> <711DEA21-30BC-465F-8D26-5370AAD90667@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <56A034A7-5EA9-41E1-A031-491008BE43B8@mac-access.net> How interesting. As of yet, I've not experienced this, although I'm sure I will at some point. Best James On 22 Sep 2011, at 22:41, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > In fairness to William, this sometimes isn't the case. It seems to disappear, as it has on our system. > > Lynne > On 22 Sep 2011, at 19:08, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Do you mean inSafari? If so, then when a download is in progress, use the item chooser menu to search for download. Then you'll find the "Downloads" button. Click on this with VO and you'll be presented with an area that you can interact with to see the current progress of your downloads. > > TC :) > James > On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:15, william lomas wrote: > >> thanks for this and how do I please see my downloads window? >> >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually you can easily do this for an individual app. I thought I posted a blog about this but >>> >>> 1. go in to ~username/library/Saved Application State and look for the com.apple.Safari.savedState folder. >>> >>> 2. delete all contents with in the folder. >>> >>> 3. hit cmd I. once you back out and are having that safari folder selected. >>> 4. check the Locked check box >>> >>> 5. hit cmd w. Now when you open just safari you will be able to not have it happen. this prevents the all or nothing approach as some apps I want to have this behavior. >>> >>> Take care all. >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> William >>>> >>>> Go into system preferences > General, and turn of the Resume check box which causes all windows previous opened to trepan when you next start the app. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:44, william lomas wrote: >>>> >>>> hi all in safari now when I am downloading something in lion i see int he toolbar more toolbar items popup menu and when I hit enter on downloads, nothing happens? >>>> Also when a link is clicked why are all previously viewed pages opening at the same time? >>>> This behavior driving me mad smile >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 22:46:39 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:46:39 +0100 Subject: tunnelblick again. In-Reply-To: <930C4F8B-6C23-4285-85F0-AA381D619654@mac.com> References: <79B354C2-F83C-4DD2-9F4A-83C13FAF9996@mac-access.net> <930C4F8B-6C23-4285-85F0-AA381D619654@mac.com> Message-ID: Hello Esther Thank you for the confirmation. I'll get to this tomorrow. For once it looks as though we might get a relaxing night; and I plan to make the most of it! Thank you again. Lynne On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:48, Esther wrote: D?nal can correct me if I'm wrong, but Tunnelblick is a free, open-source graphical user interface for OpenVPN on Mac OSX, and can be used for client and/or server. As I recall, D?nal originally needed to work with the OpenVPN standard adopted by his university. At the time, I suggested that Viscosity (another interface) might work, because it had hooks to make it AppleScriptable to get around the accessibility issues of the status menu bar icon. But it seems as though Tunnelblick now supports both AppleScripting and access to the menu bar functions. (Amazing how the apps are stepping up to this solution now, I'm waiting for Dropbox to come out with a solution.) From zkline at speedpost.net Thu Sep 22 22:46:42 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:46:42 -0700 Subject: what going on in safari In-Reply-To: References: <4A746855-7AE7-4023-8606-93E06E0BAE8E@gmail.com> <43EB219C-7107-41EC-94BD-05BDBE098DE4@gmail.com> <32FFFDD4-BE8C-405A-9FE3-7541DB3443A4@gmail.com> <711DEA21-30BC-465F-8D26-5370AAD90667@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynn and all, How do you have your Safari preferences configured? I've found that if you set downloads to only automatically be removed when Safari quits, the Downloads button doesn't disappear. It works quite reliably on my system. Best, Zack. On Sep 22, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello James > > In fairness to William, this sometimes isn't the case. It seems to disappear, as it has on our system. > > Lynne > On 22 Sep 2011, at 19:08, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Do you mean inSafari? If so, then when a download is in progress, use the item chooser menu to search for download. Then you'll find the "Downloads" button. Click on this with VO and you'll be presented with an area that you can interact with to see the current progress of your downloads. > > TC :) > James > On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:15, william lomas wrote: > >> thanks for this and how do I please see my downloads window? >> >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually you can easily do this for an individual app. I thought I posted a blog about this but >>> >>> 1. go in to ~username/library/Saved Application State and look for the com.apple.Safari.savedState folder. >>> >>> 2. delete all contents with in the folder. >>> >>> 3. hit cmd I. once you back out and are having that safari folder selected. >>> 4. check the Locked check box >>> >>> 5. hit cmd w. Now when you open just safari you will be able to not have it happen. this prevents the all or nothing approach as some apps I want to have this behavior. >>> >>> Take care all. >>> >>> Sarah Alawami >>> >>> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> >>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> William >>>> >>>> Go into system preferences > General, and turn of the Resume check box which causes all windows previous opened to trepan when you next start the app. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> On 22 Sep 2011, at 14:44, william lomas wrote: >>>> >>>> hi all in safari now when I am downloading something in lion i see int he toolbar more toolbar items popup menu and when I hit enter on downloads, nothing happens? >>>> Also when a link is clicked why are all previously viewed pages opening at the same time? >>>> This behavior driving me mad smile >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 22:51:13 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:51:13 +0100 Subject: what going on in safari In-Reply-To: References: <4A746855-7AE7-4023-8606-93E06E0BAE8E@gmail.com> <43EB219C-7107-41EC-94BD-05BDBE098DE4@gmail.com> <32FFFDD4-BE8C-405A-9FE3-7541DB3443A4@gmail.com> <711DEA21-30BC-465F-8D26-5370AAD90667@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4E9BDB37-A1E0-4669-81D1-F4843DC87492@mac-access.net> Hello Zack Which preference pane is this under? I'll give it a try. Lynne On 22 Sep 2011, at 22:46, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Lynn and all, How do you have your Safari preferences configured? I've found that if you set downloads to only automatically be removed when Safari quits, the Downloads button doesn't disappear. It works quite reliably on my system. From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 22:56:20 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:56:20 +0100 Subject: what going on in safari In-Reply-To: <4E9BDB37-A1E0-4669-81D1-F4843DC87492@mac-access.net> References: <4A746855-7AE7-4023-8606-93E06E0BAE8E@gmail.com> <43EB219C-7107-41EC-94BD-05BDBE098DE4@gmail.com> <32FFFDD4-BE8C-405A-9FE3-7541DB3443A4@gmail.com> <711DEA21-30BC-465F-8D26-5370AAD90667@mac-access.net> <4E9BDB37-A1E0-4669-81D1-F4843DC87492@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <9CD26EAA-2480-457B-86C1-42853BB0EE1A@mac-access.net> It's under General TC :) James On 22 Sep 2011, at 22:51, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Zack > > Which preference pane is this under? I'll give it a try. > > Lynne > > On 22 Sep 2011, at 22:46, Zachary Kline wrote: > > Hi Lynn and all, > How do you have your Safari preferences configured? I've found that if you set downloads to only automatically be removed when Safari quits, the Downloads button doesn't disappear. It works quite reliably on my system. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Thu Sep 22 22:58:21 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:58:21 -0500 Subject: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? In-Reply-To: References: <380-2201194222014460@M2W135.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <4BA5606F-B742-45F1-8DF1-AE64292B2E1B@tznet.com> Hello Courtney: When restoring I think you should be able to restore from the SuperDuper volume but can't say for shire. John On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > As I don't have an extra hard drive to erase and back up with time machine, is there any way I can use super duper? > Thanks, > Courtney > On Sep 22, 2011, at 4:01 PM, gunn at tznet.com wrote: > >> Hello Courtney: >> >> You are correct, andI would suggest if you can do a TimeMachine backup and >> after installing Lion, you'll be asked if you want to restore from a >> TimeMachine backup. >> >> John Gunn >> >> >> >> Original Message: >> ----------------- >> From: Courtney Curran moopiecurran at gmail.com >> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:30:46 -0400 >> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >> Subject: Re: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? >> >> >> Hi, >> Thanks for this, but won't that restore me back to SL, if I back up before >> I clean install? The backup I have is bootable. >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> If you have a bootable back up you can restore wtih super duper. Now I >> don't use super duper but you should be able to do a bootable back up and >> restore everything including apps, keys, passwords, etc. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I'm planning to do a clean install of lion on my 2009 mac mini. But I'm >> curious, how do I restore my stuff, for example, internet key codes, >> application keys, and all my files. I have my mini backed up with Super >> Duper. Is this even possible, especially the restoration of all the key >> codes, so I don't have to ask for sighted help to read me the codes? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Courtney >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >> http://mail2web.com/ . >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 23:13:49 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:13:49 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links Message-ID: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> Evening folks Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. Thank you TC:) James From zkline at speedpost.net Thu Sep 22 23:24:21 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:24:21 -0700 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi James, I've never encountered this before, though I primarily use Safari. I'm not sure what you'd consider "lots of links," but I've been on pages with hundreds of them with no problems to speak of. Best, Zack. On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Evening folks > > Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? > > I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. > > I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. > Thank you > TC:) > James > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Thu Sep 22 23:25:24 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:25:24 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Zack, Interesting. I mean any page really. I'm not sure it's page specific. TC :) james On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:24, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi James, > I've never encountered this before, though I primarily use Safari. I'm not sure what you'd consider "lots of links," but I've been on pages with hundreds of them with no problems to speak of. > Best, > Zack. > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Evening folks >> >> Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? >> >> I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. >> >> I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. >> Thank you >> TC:) >> James >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Thu Sep 22 23:44:45 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:44:45 -0300 Subject: Skype question. Message-ID: <1BFDD863A2564D47BA0112C14052AD21@MainComputer> Hi Folks: How does one accept a contact request from skype on the Mac? Thanks. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6486 (20110922) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 00:03:55 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:03:55 -0700 Subject: Skype question. In-Reply-To: <1BFDD863A2564D47BA0112C14052AD21@MainComputer> References: <1BFDD863A2564D47BA0112C14052AD21@MainComputer> Message-ID: Just vo right past the table after highlighting the request, go to except button and hit it. It should be there. There's also a block button as well. Take care. On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > How does one accept a contact request from skype on the Mac? > > Thanks. > > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6486 (20110922) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 00:04:56 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:04:56 -0700 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7AFF56CB-A7A6-48C6-8ABB-68B48D402D2A@gmail.com> i've encountered this. I go to my fantastico installer and I see page has 0 links yet I can vo right and left to them. This si a vo issue and needs to be remideed. It has been a problem since os10.7. Take care all. On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi James, > I've never encountered this before, though I primarily use Safari. I'm not sure what you'd consider "lots of links," but I've been on pages with hundreds of them with no problems to speak of. > Best, > Zack. > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Evening folks >> >> Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? >> >> I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. >> >> I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. >> Thank you >> TC:) >> James >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 00:06:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:06:47 -0700 Subject: tunnelblick again. In-Reply-To: References: <79B354C2-F83C-4DD2-9F4A-83C13FAF9996@mac-access.net> <930C4F8B-6C23-4285-85F0-AA381D619654@mac.com> Message-ID: <146A3DF6-6C97-4EB7-AFCE-E2FDB3C39FB3@gmail.com> Actually apple took away the ability to check the icons in the status bar under osx lion. I tried the method I used under snl and all I get is a ding. Take care all. On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:46 AM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Absolutely spot on Esther. He (the developer) even said that the addition of the keyboard shortcut and the various sounds was his idea in order to overcome the voiceover/status menu limitations. This, incidentally, is a biiig failing on Apple's part. I would have hoped that the inaccessibility of those extra status icons would have been fixed. There is a work around for developers, but Apple don't like you to use it. As an aside, I'd love to know how Radium have managed it. anyone on good terms with any of the devs over there? > > D?nal > On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:48, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Lynne, >> >> D?nal can correct me if I'm wrong, but Tunnelblick is a free, open-source graphical user interface for OpenVPN on Mac OSX, and can be used for client and/or server. As I recall, D?nal originally needed to work with the OpenVPN standard adopted by his university. At the time, I suggested that Viscosity (another interface) might work, because it had hooks to make it AppleScriptable to get around the accessibility issues of the status menu bar icon. But it seems as though Tunnelblick now supports both AppleScripting and access to the menu bar functions. (Amazing how the apps are stepping up to this solution now, I'm waiting for Dropbox to come out with a solution.) >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 05:28, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Donal >>> >>> Is this just a client or a server as well? >>> >>> We are wondering if there's an easier option to Apple's VPN. >>> >>> This is something we are looking to set up imminently. >>> >>> Lyne >>> >>> On 22 Sep 2011, at 15:15, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>> Just another note. It's amazing what you discover from poking around in settings. There is now a shortcut key which enables one to get to the Tunnelblick menu. So, even though the VO command doesn't pick up the icon in the status menu, one doesn't need it. They have also added sounds to inform users when a connection is established /interrupted. >>> >>> D?nal >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 00:10:22 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:10:22 -0400 Subject: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? In-Reply-To: <4BA5606F-B742-45F1-8DF1-AE64292B2E1B@tznet.com> References: <380-2201194222014460@M2W135.mail2web.com> <4BA5606F-B742-45F1-8DF1-AE64292B2E1B@tznet.com> Message-ID: <853D69A6-A5FE-40CE-A5A4-06C953F750D8@gmail.com> Hi John, Thanks for this, I'll look even more in depth at super duper tomorrow, I'll let you know what happens. Thanks for all your help, Courtney On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:58 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Hello Courtney: > > When restoring I think you should be able to restore from the SuperDuper volume but can't say for shire. > > John > > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> As I don't have an extra hard drive to erase and back up with time machine, is there any way I can use super duper? >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 4:01 PM, gunn at tznet.com wrote: >> >>> Hello Courtney: >>> >>> You are correct, andI would suggest if you can do a TimeMachine backup and >>> after installing Lion, you'll be asked if you want to restore from a >>> TimeMachine backup. >>> >>> John Gunn >>> >>> >>> >>> Original Message: >>> ----------------- >>> From: Courtney Curran moopiecurran at gmail.com >>> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:30:46 -0400 >>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>> Subject: Re: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> Thanks for this, but won't that restore me back to SL, if I back up before >>> I clean install? The backup I have is bootable. >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney >>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> If you have a bootable back up you can restore wtih super duper. Now I >>> don't use super duper but you should be able to do a bootable back up and >>> restore everything including apps, keys, passwords, etc. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I'm planning to do a clean install of lion on my 2009 mac mini. But I'm >>> curious, how do I restore my stuff, for example, internet key codes, >>> application keys, and all my files. I have my mini backed up with Super >>> Duper. Is this even possible, especially the restoration of all the key >>> codes, so I don't have to ask for sighted help to read me the codes? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Courtney >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >>> http://mail2web.com/ . >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 00:57:03 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:57:03 -0700 Subject: the see more link in apple mail messages: os lion Message-ID: Ok how in the world do I hit that see more link? I have tried vo space, clicking, jumping up and down and screaming out of frustration? Ok not that one yet but how do I access that one? Thanks. From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Fri Sep 23 01:01:48 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:01:48 -0400 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Lynne and others, Copy and paste is working for me now in VM Fusion 3. I was getting my fingers tangled and using windows commands on my Mac! So much to keep track of and I have muscle memory after more then 25 years of PC work! But, I can now use the copy command on either OS move to the other OS and use the paste command. this is very useful. I bet it works in VM 4. But, I have not been able to get VM 4 to work well for me yet. eric Caron On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Eric > > I think this still works; although I'm not 100%. I need to isolate our machine anyway so I'll try and let you know. > > Lynne > > On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:04, Eric Caron wrote: > > Hi Lynne and others, > > Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. Is there still a way to do this? > > Eric Caron > On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Geoff >> >> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >> ? 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >> >> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with anything Windows. >> >> ? 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >> >> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >> >> ? What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >> >> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie Fri Sep 23 01:01:02 2011 From: dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F3nal_Fitzpatrick?=) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:01:02 +0100 Subject: the see more link in apple mail messages: os lion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51552E63-1C8C-4F20-910F-FB0D420BCA3F@computing.dcu.ie> Which link is this? On 23 Sep 2011, at 00:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Ok how in the world do I hit that see more link? I have tried vo space, clicking, jumping up and down and screaming out of frustration? Ok not that one yet but how do I access that one? > > Thanks. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > D?nal Fitzpatrick dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Fri Sep 23 01:31:29 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (mike maslo) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:31:29 -0500 Subject: Skype question. In-Reply-To: References: <1BFDD863A2564D47BA0112C14052AD21@MainComputer> Message-ID: <001201cc7988$23c6b540$6b541fc0$@swbell.net> A follow up question on skype. Is there a way to erase the conversation logs on skype using vo? -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:04 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Skype question. Just vo right past the table after highlighting the request, go to except button and hit it. It should be there. There's also a block button as well. Take care. On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > How does one accept a contact request from skype on the Mac? > > Thanks. > > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6486 (20110922) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Fri Sep 23 01:34:07 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (mike maslo) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:34:07 -0500 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> Would the mac run with vm fusion with 4 gb of ram? -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:02 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 Hi Lynne and others, Copy and paste is working for me now in VM Fusion 3. I was getting my fingers tangled and using windows commands on my Mac! So much to keep track of and I have muscle memory after more then 25 years of PC work! But, I can now use the copy command on either OS move to the other OS and use the paste command. this is very useful. I bet it works in VM 4. But, I have not been able to get VM 4 to work well for me yet. eric Caron On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Eric > > I think this still works; although I'm not 100%. I need to isolate our machine anyway so I'll try and let you know. > > Lynne > > On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:04, Eric Caron wrote: > > Hi Lynne and others, > > Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. Is there still a way to do this? > > Eric Caron > On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Geoff >> >> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >> . 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >> >> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with anything Windows. >> >> . 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >> >> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >> >> . What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >> >> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 02:16:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:16:47 -0700 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <1BC5692B-BA45-44CA-9442-14E05E4BE484@gmail.com> yeah it will. As long as you alocate no more then 1 gb of ram with your guest system. Take care. On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:34 PM, mike maslo wrote: > Would the mac run with vm fusion with 4 gb of ram? > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:02 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 > > Hi Lynne and others, > > Copy and paste is working for me now in VM Fusion 3. I was getting > my fingers tangled and using windows commands on my Mac! So much to keep > track of and I have muscle memory after more then 25 years of PC work! > > But, I can now use the copy command on either OS move to the other OS and > use the paste command. this is very useful. > > I bet it works in VM 4. But, I have not been able to get VM 4 to work well > for me yet. > > eric Caron > > On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Eric >> >> I think this still works; although I'm not 100%. I need to isolate our > machine anyway so I'll try and let you know. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:04, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Hi Lynne and others, >> >> Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board > while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. > Is there still a way to do this? >> >> Eric Caron >> On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Geoff >>> >>> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>> . 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do > anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >>> >>> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with > anything Windows. >>> >>> . 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be > possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows > app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >>> >>> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >>> >>> . What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large > sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my > trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring > up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go > through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and > turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have > booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I > could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use > different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >>> >>> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 02:17:18 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:17:18 -0700 Subject: Skype question. In-Reply-To: <001201cc7988$23c6b540$6b541fc0$@swbell.net> References: <1BFDD863A2564D47BA0112C14052AD21@MainComputer> <001201cc7988$23c6b540$6b541fc0$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <867D6F56-BE08-46D4-A24F-10E713ACCFDE@gmail.com> go to prefs and then go to the privacy tab and there should be an arace button there. On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:31 PM, mike maslo wrote: > A follow up question on skype. Is there a way to erase the conversation logs > on skype using vo? > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:04 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Skype question. > > Just vo right past the table after highlighting the request, go to except > button and hit it. It should be there. There's also a block button as well. > > Take care. > > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> How does one accept a contact request from skype on the Mac? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, > in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6486 (20110922) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 02:17:57 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:17:57 -0700 Subject: the see more link in apple mail messages: os lion In-Reply-To: <51552E63-1C8C-4F20-910F-FB0D420BCA3F@computing.dcu.ie> References: <51552E63-1C8C-4F20-910F-FB0D420BCA3F@computing.dcu.ie> Message-ID: <85122A0F-8519-492B-973B-A0A99E3C99D8@gmail.com> When you are reading a conversation you can sometimes seea see more link from let's say, ma. How do I activate that link and read the rest of what the message contains? On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:01 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Which link is this? > On 23 Sep 2011, at 00:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ok how in the world do I hit that see more link? I have tried vo space, clicking, jumping up and down and screaming out of frustration? Ok not that one yet but how do I access that one? >> >> Thanks. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > D?nal Fitzpatrick > dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From zkline at speedpost.net Fri Sep 23 02:21:47 2011 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:21:47 -0700 Subject: the see more link in apple mail messages: os lion In-Reply-To: <85122A0F-8519-492B-973B-A0A99E3C99D8@gmail.com> References: <51552E63-1C8C-4F20-910F-FB0D420BCA3F@computing.dcu.ie> <85122A0F-8519-492B-973B-A0A99E3C99D8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <144D7CEF-B73E-45E0-9A67-8A61586FECEC@speedpost.net> Hi Sarah, THe link isn't a way to show more of the message itself, but rather a way to show the rest of that conversation. I don't know of a way to activate it myself but have never found it necessary. Best, Zack. On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > When you are reading a conversation you can sometimes seea see more link from let's say, ma. How do I activate that link and read the rest of what the message contains? > On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:01 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Which link is this? >> On 23 Sep 2011, at 00:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Ok how in the world do I hit that see more link? I have tried vo space, clicking, jumping up and down and screaming out of frustration? Ok not that one yet but how do I access that one? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> D?nal Fitzpatrick >> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From va3ets2000 at me.com Fri Sep 23 02:22:40 2011 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:22:40 -0400 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: <7AFF56CB-A7A6-48C6-8ABB-68B48D402D2A@gmail.com> References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> <7AFF56CB-A7A6-48C6-8ABB-68B48D402D2A@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've not come across this either. Does it make a difference if you're using Chrome, or Safari? I'm not using Chrome, as it's just not quite there yet in my opinion. On Sep 22, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > i've encountered this. I go to my fantastico installer and I see page has 0 links yet I can vo right and left to them. This si a vo issue and needs to be remideed. It has been a problem since os10.7. > > Take care all. > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi James, >> I've never encountered this before, though I primarily use Safari. I'm not sure what you'd consider "lots of links," but I've been on pages with hundreds of them with no problems to speak of. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Evening folks >>> >>> Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? >>> >>> I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. >>> >>> I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. >>> Thank you >>> TC:) >>> James >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Fri Sep 23 02:43:48 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:43:48 -0500 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> Message-ID: Hello Mike: On this early 2008 iMac, Fusion runs very with 3GB of ram allocated to Windows XP SP3. Take care, John On Sep 22, 2011, at 7:34 PM, mike maslo wrote: > Would the mac run with vm fusion with 4 gb of ram? > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:02 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 > > Hi Lynne and others, > > Copy and paste is working for me now in VM Fusion 3. I was getting > my fingers tangled and using windows commands on my Mac! So much to keep > track of and I have muscle memory after more then 25 years of PC work! > > But, I can now use the copy command on either OS move to the other OS and > use the paste command. this is very useful. > > I bet it works in VM 4. But, I have not been able to get VM 4 to work well > for me yet. > > eric Caron > > On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Eric >> >> I think this still works; although I'm not 100%. I need to isolate our > machine anyway so I'll try and let you know. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:04, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Hi Lynne and others, >> >> Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board > while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. > Is there still a way to do this? >> >> Eric Caron >> On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Geoff >>> >>> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>> . 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do > anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >>> >>> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with > anything Windows. >>> >>> . 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be > possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows > app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >>> >>> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >>> >>> . What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large > sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my > trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring > up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go > through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and > turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have > booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I > could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use > different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >>> >>> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Fri Sep 23 02:40:54 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (mike maslo) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:40:54 -0500 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <1BC5692B-BA45-44CA-9442-14E05E4BE484@gmail.com> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> <1BC5692B-BA45-44CA-9442-14E05E4BE484@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001501cc7991$d5a39c70$80ead550$@swbell.net> So windows will run with 1 gig of ram with jaws? -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:17 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 yeah it will. As long as you alocate no more then 1 gb of ram with your guest system. Take care. On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:34 PM, mike maslo wrote: > Would the mac run with vm fusion with 4 gb of ram? > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:02 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 > > Hi Lynne and others, > > Copy and paste is working for me now in VM Fusion 3. I was getting > my fingers tangled and using windows commands on my Mac! So much to > keep track of and I have muscle memory after more then 25 years of PC work! > > But, I can now use the copy command on either OS move to the other OS > and use the paste command. this is very useful. > > I bet it works in VM 4. But, I have not been able to get VM 4 to work > well for me yet. > > eric Caron > > On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Eric >> >> I think this still works; although I'm not 100%. I need to isolate >> our > machine anyway so I'll try and let you know. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:04, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Hi Lynne and others, >> >> Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board > while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. > Is there still a way to do this? >> >> Eric Caron >> On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Geoff >>> >>> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>> . 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver >>> do > anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >>> >>> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with > anything Windows. >>> >>> . 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would >>> it be > possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a > Windows app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >>> >>> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >>> >>> . What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy >>> large > sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off > my trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot > spots, bring up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to > turn off, go through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, > copy the text, and turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking > again I may as well have booted my xp machine and will still save time > accomplishing the task. If I could copy segments of code on a web > page into xCode without having to use different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >>> >>> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting > the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Sep 23 02:54:25 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:54:25 -0400 Subject: a trace route command in the terminal In-Reply-To: <673B6CDA-6D41-4F50-8E05-9465A2E81234@gmail.com> References: <673B6CDA-6D41-4F50-8E05-9465A2E81234@gmail.com> Message-ID: <06EA0E86-8253-4C55-95DD-B4645C98E86A@softcon.com> When you use traceroute, you only use the domain name, not the protocol. I.E. drop the http:// or the ftp://, traceroute is concerned only with the host itself, not the service it's providing. traceroute softcon.com will show you how many hops it takes to connect from you to softcon.com. traceroute yahoo.com will do the same, you should try various servers, and just check out how many hops they are from you. You'll notice different hop counts from time to time, this is because of the way the internet works, if a host drops out, your packets are rerouted through another one to reach your requested location. It's an interesting exercise, and provides a bit of entertainment when discovering just how truly connected your isp truly is. :) hth. On Sep 21, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello to all. I'm trying to do a trace route to a certain website > to collect info for the web master. I tried > > traceroute http://listen.ultrastreams.us with no joy. It says > unknown host and even google fails. Is the command wrong and if so > what's the correct one? I used to be able to do this under snl. > > Take care all. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http:// > music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact > me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- > access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 03:02:48 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:02:48 -0700 Subject: a trace route command in the terminal In-Reply-To: <06EA0E86-8253-4C55-95DD-B4645C98E86A@softcon.com> References: <673B6CDA-6D41-4F50-8E05-9465A2E81234@gmail.com> <06EA0E86-8253-4C55-95DD-B4645C98E86A@softcon.com> Message-ID: <102F2BAE-A065-4CBD-83D4-0793C96456EC@gmail.com> Yeah I got it from another list lol! Thanks. and I go tthe traces I wanted and needed to give to the company. Ty. On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > When you use traceroute, you only use the domain name, not the protocol. I.E. drop the http:// or the ftp://, traceroute is concerned only with the host itself, not the service it's providing. > traceroute softcon.com will show you how many hops it takes to connect from you to softcon.com. > traceroute yahoo.com will do the same, you should try various servers, and just check out how many hops they are from you. You'll notice different hop counts from time to time, this is because of the way the internet works, if a host drops out, your packets are rerouted through another one to reach your requested location. > It's an interesting exercise, and provides a bit of entertainment when discovering just how truly connected your isp truly is. :) > hth. > > > On Sep 21, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello to all. I'm trying to do a trace route to a certain website to collect info for the web master. I tried >> >> traceroute http://listen.ultrastreams.us with no joy. It says unknown host and even google fails. Is the command wrong and if so what's the correct one? I used to be able to do this under snl. >> >> Take care all. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 03:04:06 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:04:06 -0700 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> <7AFF56CB-A7A6-48C6-8ABB-68B48D402D2A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hmm When you go to the link chooser in the net flix sight? you will get this. I've seen a friend's computer do this. you will get links 0 itums but when you vo left and right through the sight you will find all the links. Iv'e seen this on twitter as well people discussing this with the new safari/webkit. Take care all. On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > I've not come across this either. Does it make a difference if you're using Chrome, or Safari? I'm not using Chrome, as it's just not quite there yet in my opinion. > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> i've encountered this. I go to my fantastico installer and I see page has 0 links yet I can vo right and left to them. This si a vo issue and needs to be remideed. It has been a problem since os10.7. >> >> Take care all. >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >> >>> Hi James, >>> I've never encountered this before, though I primarily use Safari. I'm not sure what you'd consider "lots of links," but I've been on pages with hundreds of them with no problems to speak of. >>> Best, >>> Zack. >>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Evening folks >>>> >>>> Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? >>>> >>>> I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. >>>> >>>> I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. >>>> Thank you >>>> TC:) >>>> James >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 03:04:51 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:04:51 -0700 Subject: the see more link in apple mail messages: os lion In-Reply-To: <144D7CEF-B73E-45E0-9A67-8A61586FECEC@speedpost.net> References: <51552E63-1C8C-4F20-910F-FB0D420BCA3F@computing.dcu.ie> <85122A0F-8519-492B-973B-A0A99E3C99D8@gmail.com> <144D7CEF-B73E-45E0-9A67-8A61586FECEC@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <5B3902F4-083D-4420-9EFA-A05FF12F2294@gmail.com> lol. I needed to in this case as the rest of the conversation never showed up in this message thread I was viewing. Any help please? On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Sarah, > THe link isn't a way to show more of the message itself, but rather a way to show the rest of that conversation. I don't know of a way to activate it myself but have never found it necessary. > Best, > Zack. > On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> When you are reading a conversation you can sometimes seea see more link from let's say, ma. How do I activate that link and read the rest of what the message contains? >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:01 PM, D?nal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Which link is this? >>> On 23 Sep 2011, at 00:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Ok how in the world do I hit that see more link? I have tried vo space, clicking, jumping up and down and screaming out of frustration? Ok not that one yet but how do I access that one? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> D?nal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitzpat at computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From orin8722 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 03:04:57 2011 From: orin8722 at gmail.com (Orin) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:04:57 -0400 Subject: Braille display pairing issues Message-ID: <3B1C71C2-92FC-49B6-9AA4-6E762404CD63@gmail.com> Hey everyone, To keep it short, I go into the braille settings, I turn on my braille display. It finds it and tries to pair. When I press the button for it to start pairing, I get a secure edit field and it's set on numbers. Anyone know what to do here? I have to type it quick, otherwise a dialog tells me it took too long. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Sep 23 03:40:23 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:40:23 -0400 Subject: Browsing sdef files in AppleScriptEditor. In-Reply-To: <976DC41A4BBC4648B5D358F06E608A0A@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <976DC41A4BBC4648B5D358F06E608A0A@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <2BC436EB-C420-43C7-9E52-03CB77B9B57B@softcon.com> When you're interacting with the sdef files, I've found no way to jump to sections, headers, and the like, I simply go down the column that lists the functions, then simply go across the row when I hit one I want to know more about. Once you interact with the table in question, regular vo up/down/right/left arrows works just fine for navigating the information in the table. On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings, > > When opening a scriptable dictionary file (e.g VoiceOver.sdef) the > available commands and objects are placed in a tree view. I assume > there must be a quick way to view text associated with the item in > focus, but it eludes me so far. VO-j always goes to the beginning > and there does not appear to be a shortcut menu. > > Is there an easier method to jump to the item of interest, or is > the item chooser the only game in town? TIA for any suggestions > and best regards. > Geoff > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- > access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Sep 23 03:42:35 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:42:35 -0400 Subject: photobooth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When you take a picture with photo booth, it automatically saves the photo in your ~/pictures folder. You can navigate to this folder via finder, and the picture will have a name with the time/date tacked onto it (if I remember correctly) but if you don't have any other pictures there, it will make it easy to spot. :) hth. On Sep 21, 2011, at 9:30 AM, william lomas wrote: > hi all when I take a photo in photo booth how do i save it? > or is that automatic? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- > access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 04:07:23 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:07:23 -0700 Subject: photobooth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Acutally they changed it in to a library now. I had to go to ~pictures/Photo Booth Library and right click and show package contents and from there go to pictures. It sucks but there ya go. Take care all. On Sep 22, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > When you take a picture with photo booth, it automatically saves the photo in your ~/pictures folder. You can navigate to this folder via finder, and the picture will have a name with the time/date tacked onto it (if I remember correctly) but if you don't have any other pictures there, it will make it easy to spot. :) > hth. > On Sep 21, 2011, at 9:30 AM, william lomas wrote: > >> hi all when I take a photo in photo booth how do i save it? >> or is that automatic? >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 06:52:26 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 06:52:26 +0100 Subject: Braille display pairing issues In-Reply-To: <3B1C71C2-92FC-49B6-9AA4-6E762404CD63@gmail.com> References: <3B1C71C2-92FC-49B6-9AA4-6E762404CD63@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2A6A04E7-B5B7-4D42-9EA0-AEEC02CE557A@gmail.com> type 0000 if that not work do 1234 On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:04 AM, Orin wrote: > Hey everyone, > > To keep it short, I go into the braille settings, I turn on my braille display. It finds it and tries to pair. When I press the button for it to start pairing, I get a secure edit field and it's set on numbers. Anyone know what to do here? I have to type it quick, otherwise a dialog tells me it took too long. > Orin > orin8722 at gmail.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks > Skype: orin1112 > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Sep 23 10:08:33 2011 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:08:33 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <543809BA-C3AA-4260-BB23-FDBA7C2774A3@hopewell.org.uk> HI Mike, I am using Fusion 4.0.1 on Mac OS 10.7.1 on an iMac with only 4GB of RAM. It works fine for me. Paul Hopewell On 23 Sep 2011, at 01:34, mike maslo wrote: > Would the mac run with vm fusion with 4 gb of ram? > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:02 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 > > Hi Lynne and others, > > Copy and paste is working for me now in VM Fusion 3. I was getting > my fingers tangled and using windows commands on my Mac! So much to keep > track of and I have muscle memory after more then 25 years of PC work! > > But, I can now use the copy command on either OS move to the other OS and > use the paste command. this is very useful. > > I bet it works in VM 4. But, I have not been able to get VM 4 to work well > for me yet. > > eric Caron > > On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Eric >> >> I think this still works; although I'm not 100%. I need to isolate our > machine anyway so I'll try and let you know. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:04, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Hi Lynne and others, >> >> Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board > while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. > Is there still a way to do this? >> >> Eric Caron >> On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Geoff >>> >>> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>> . 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do > anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >>> >>> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with > anything Windows. >>> >>> . 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be > possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows > app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >>> >>> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >>> >>> . What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large > sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my > trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring > up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go > through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and > turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have > booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I > could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use > different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >>> >>> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From opensesame at me.com Fri Sep 23 13:56:01 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:56:01 -0400 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <44E6CDB0-FA5A-42DA-A798-0BDF2D406BAC@me.com> Hello James, I'm not sure if this is the same thing, but I experience a version of this issue every time I load a new page. What generally happens is that the first time I open the rotor, it reports zero or only a few links. I'll then press escape to close the rotor, wait a few seconds, and open the rotor again and this usually resolves the issue. My assumption, which could well be wrong, is that the rotor needs the page to be fully loaded before it can detect the elements on that page; However, I don't seem to recall having this same issue under SL. Regarding Chrome: I'm glad to hear you're having success with Chrome. I've been using it as a secondary browser for a few months and I think it is definitely getting close to being an accessible alternative to Safari and Webkit. Cheers, Bryan On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:15:16 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:15:16 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: <44E6CDB0-FA5A-42DA-A798-0BDF2D406BAC@me.com> References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> <44E6CDB0-FA5A-42DA-A798-0BDF2D406BAC@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Brian, Your issue sounds exactly the same as mine. Sometimes though, even a fully loaded page results in a links router with zero or just a few links. Best James SKYPE: saulky1984 On 23 Sep 2011, at 13:56, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello James, > > I'm not sure if this is the same thing, but I experience a version of this issue every time I load a new page. What generally happens is that the first time I open the rotor, it reports zero or only a few links. I'll then press escape to close the rotor, wait a few seconds, and open the rotor again and this usually resolves the issue. My assumption, which could well be wrong, is that the rotor needs the page to be fully loaded before it can detect the elements on that page; However, I don't seem to recall having this same issue under SL. > > Regarding Chrome: I'm glad to hear you're having success with Chrome. I've been using it as a secondary browser for a few months and I think it is definitely getting close to being an accessible alternative to Safari and Webkit. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 14:21:17 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:21:17 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> <44E6CDB0-FA5A-42DA-A798-0BDF2D406BAC@me.com> Message-ID: <4B7F0563-7F4D-4F68-8657-E2FA5982FBE3@gmail.com> turn off voiceover and back on again all we need now is accessible tv catchup services like inlayer etc. still prefer windows for these at least they usable to find play stop pause rewind etc On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:15 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Brian, > > Your issue sounds exactly the same as mine. Sometimes though, even a fully loaded page results in a links router with zero or just a few links. > > Best > James > SKYPE: saulky1984 > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 13:56, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Hello James, >> >> I'm not sure if this is the same thing, but I experience a version of this issue every time I load a new page. What generally happens is that the first time I open the rotor, it reports zero or only a few links. I'll then press escape to close the rotor, wait a few seconds, and open the rotor again and this usually resolves the issue. My assumption, which could well be wrong, is that the rotor needs the page to be fully loaded before it can detect the elements on that page; However, I don't seem to recall having this same issue under SL. >> >> Regarding Chrome: I'm glad to hear you're having success with Chrome. I've been using it as a secondary browser for a few months and I think it is definitely getting close to being an accessible alternative to Safari and Webkit. >> >> Cheers, >> Bryan >> >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:30:56 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:30:56 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <62503766-854C-4B6E-A0CE-971C1AB8894A@mac-access.net> Hi James I'm not sure if this is related to what you're talking about here. But I frequently see issues where VoiceOver doesn't see elements on a web page. Not just links, edit boxes, check boxes, combo boxes, (what Apple called a "Pulldown"), and other element. I'm not sure it's a VO issues; because if I refresh the page, they usually come back as visible. I'm not using Crome, I haven't even tried it actually, but would be very interested in doing so if I could find the thing for Mac. Must look on Google. How accessible is Chrom and how well does it work with VoiceOver in terms of accessibility? Thanks, and it is really rest to be back in the land of the living, so to speak. Gordon On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:13, James AUSTIN wrote: Evening folks Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. Thank you TC:) James <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:32:56 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:32:56 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <35101459-BF5E-48A1-AAC0-C6F4A54CF544@mac-access.net> Hi James I just wanted to comment on one thing. Just because it works when you restart VoiceOver, that doesn't necessarily imply it's a problem with VoiceOver itself. I know that may not sound logical, but technically there are reasons why this may be true. Gordon On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:25, James AUSTIN wrote: Hi Zack, Interesting. I mean any page really. I'm not sure it's page specific. TC :) james On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:24, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi James, > I've never encountered this before, though I primarily use Safari. I'm not sure what you'd consider "lots of links," but I've been on pages with hundreds of them with no problems to speak of. > Best, > Zack. > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Evening folks >> >> Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? >> >> I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. >> >> I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. >> Thank you >> TC:) >> James >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 14:33:08 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:33:08 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: <62503766-854C-4B6E-A0CE-971C1AB8894A@mac-access.net> References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> <62503766-854C-4B6E-A0CE-971C1AB8894A@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7141AD4A-2E83-451E-92BF-B3DE068C7F0D@gmail.com> what makes chrome better though aren't they all the same? safari? lightning? they all don't provide access to flash because of adobes lack of support so we who need access to flash are stuck On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi James > > I'm not sure if this is related to what you're talking about here. But I frequently see issues where VoiceOver doesn't see elements on a web page. Not just links, edit boxes, check boxes, combo boxes, (what Apple called a "Pulldown"), and other element. > > I'm not sure it's a VO issues; because if I refresh the page, they usually come back as visible. > > I'm not using Crome, I haven't even tried it actually, but would be very interested in doing so if I could find the thing for Mac. Must look on Google. > > How accessible is Chrom and how well does it work with VoiceOver in terms of accessibility? > > Thanks, and it is really rest to be back in the land of the living, so to speak. > > Gordon > > On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:13, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Evening folks > > Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? > > I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. > > I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. > Thank you > TC:) > James > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:35:00 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:35:00 +0100 Subject: the see more link in apple mail messages: os lion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Sarah This is double Dutch to me. Could you try again please, this time explain your issue. :) Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 00:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: Ok how in the world do I hit that see more link? I have tried vo space, clicking, jumping up and down and screaming out of frustration? Ok not that one yet but how do I access that one? Thanks. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:37:18 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:37:18 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: <35101459-BF5E-48A1-AAC0-C6F4A54CF544@mac-access.net> References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> <35101459-BF5E-48A1-AAC0-C6F4A54CF544@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <662A6B4B-EB9F-4CC0-88F8-4E78D4042BCD@mac-access.net> Hi Gordon, Could you explain further please? I know you have said that it may not be a VoiceOver issue, but I am slightly confused by this, as despite there being no or little info in the web router, I can still navigate the page independent of that and click on links. Although sometimes, clicking on links is not possible. I'll write you off-list regarding your other questions. Thanks TC :) james On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:32, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi James > > I just wanted to comment on one thing. Just because it works when you restart VoiceOver, that doesn't necessarily imply it's a problem with VoiceOver itself. I know that may not sound logical, but technically there are reasons why this may be true. > > Gordon > > > On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:25, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Hi Zack, > > Interesting. I mean any page really. I'm not sure it's page specific. > > TC :) > james > On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:24, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi James, >> I've never encountered this before, though I primarily use Safari. I'm not sure what you'd consider "lots of links," but I've been on pages with hundreds of them with no problems to speak of. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Evening folks >>> >>> Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? >>> >>> I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. >>> >>> I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. >>> Thank you >>> TC:) >>> James >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:37:30 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:37:30 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Eric We're using v4 without issues. yes, sometimes you have to remember the key differences but after a while you'll find it becomes second nature. Actually I find Windows is now the alien world to me. I'm much more comfortable using OS X than Windows and I use Windows only as a last resort. Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 01:01, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Lynne and others, Copy and paste is working for me now in VM Fusion 3. I was getting my fingers tangled and using windows commands on my Mac! So much to keep track of and I have muscle memory after more then 25 years of PC work! But, I can now use the copy command on either OS move to the other OS and use the paste command. this is very useful. I bet it works in VM 4. But, I have not been able to get VM 4 to work well for me yet. From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:40:41 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:40:41 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: <7141AD4A-2E83-451E-92BF-B3DE068C7F0D@gmail.com> References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> <62503766-854C-4B6E-A0CE-971C1AB8894A@mac-access.net> <7141AD4A-2E83-451E-92BF-B3DE068C7F0D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <69AF36A0-B19C-4DE9-B5E5-90C7C136EB50@mac-access.net> Hi Will, Actually, Crome does support Flash, as does Safari ad does Lightening. The lack of accessibility with Flash is not browser dependent, but more related to VoiceOver. TC :) James On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:33, william lomas wrote: > what makes chrome better though aren't they all the same? > safari? > lightning? > they all don't provide access to flash because of adobes lack of support so we who need access to flash are stuck > > On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi James >> >> I'm not sure if this is related to what you're talking about here. But I frequently see issues where VoiceOver doesn't see elements on a web page. Not just links, edit boxes, check boxes, combo boxes, (what Apple called a "Pulldown"), and other element. >> >> I'm not sure it's a VO issues; because if I refresh the page, they usually come back as visible. >> >> I'm not using Crome, I haven't even tried it actually, but would be very interested in doing so if I could find the thing for Mac. Must look on Google. >> >> How accessible is Chrom and how well does it work with VoiceOver in terms of accessibility? >> >> Thanks, and it is really rest to be back in the land of the living, so to speak. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:13, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> Evening folks >> >> Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? >> >> I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. >> >> I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. >> Thank you >> TC:) >> James >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:41:53 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:41:53 +0100 Subject: the see more link in apple mail messages: os lion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Gordon, Sarah wants to know how she accesses the "see more" link in Mail message. TC :) James On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:35, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Sarah > > This is double Dutch to me. Could you try again please, this time explain your issue. :) > > Gordon > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 00:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > Ok how in the world do I hit that see more link? I have tried vo space, clicking, jumping up and down and screaming out of frustration? Ok not that one yet but how do I access that one? > > Thanks. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:42:40 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:42:40 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <04B456B9-84A3-4302-BD55-295FFE13E2B2@mac-access.net> Mike Basically the answer to your question is yes, but I strongly recommend upgrading to 8GB if you possibly can. We've done that on our MBP and all of our servers and it makes a terrific difference even in native OSX which we run 99.9% of the time on the clients and 100% of the time on the server. I really would suggest you upgrade. Remember also that the discussion of Windows itself is off topic for this group. But you're very welcome to join our new Windows list. To do so, send a message to and then authenticate. If you join that group, you could discuss the virtual machine setup here, then, discuss the actual Windos config on that list. Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 01:34, mike maslo wrote: Would the mac run with vm fusion with 4 gb of ram? -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:02 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 Hi Lynne and others, Copy and paste is working for me now in VM Fusion 3. I was getting my fingers tangled and using windows commands on my Mac! So much to keep track of and I have muscle memory after more then 25 years of PC work! But, I can now use the copy command on either OS move to the other OS and use the paste command. this is very useful. I bet it works in VM 4. But, I have not been able to get VM 4 to work well for me yet. eric Caron On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Eric > > I think this still works; although I'm not 100%. I need to isolate our machine anyway so I'll try and let you know. > > Lynne > > On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:04, Eric Caron wrote: > > Hi Lynne and others, > > Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. Is there still a way to do this? > > Eric Caron > On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Geoff >> >> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >> . 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >> >> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with anything Windows. >> >> . 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >> >> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >> >> . What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >> >> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >> >> Lynne >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 14:43:01 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:43:01 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: <69AF36A0-B19C-4DE9-B5E5-90C7C136EB50@mac-access.net> References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> <62503766-854C-4B6E-A0CE-971C1AB8894A@mac-access.net> <7141AD4A-2E83-451E-92BF-B3DE068C7F0D@gmail.com> <69AF36A0-B19C-4DE9-B5E5-90C7C136EB50@mac-access.net> Message-ID: thought it was adobe issue half the sites i need to help me catch up with tv use it so i use windows a lot more nowadays On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:40 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Will, > > Actually, Crome does support Flash, as does Safari ad does Lightening. The lack of accessibility with Flash is not browser dependent, but more related to VoiceOver. > > TC :) > James > On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:33, william lomas wrote: > >> what makes chrome better though aren't they all the same? >> safari? >> lightning? >> they all don't provide access to flash because of adobes lack of support so we who need access to flash are stuck >> >> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> Hi James >>> >>> I'm not sure if this is related to what you're talking about here. But I frequently see issues where VoiceOver doesn't see elements on a web page. Not just links, edit boxes, check boxes, combo boxes, (what Apple called a "Pulldown"), and other element. >>> >>> I'm not sure it's a VO issues; because if I refresh the page, they usually come back as visible. >>> >>> I'm not using Crome, I haven't even tried it actually, but would be very interested in doing so if I could find the thing for Mac. Must look on Google. >>> >>> How accessible is Chrom and how well does it work with VoiceOver in terms of accessibility? >>> >>> Thanks, and it is really rest to be back in the land of the living, so to speak. >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:13, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>> Evening folks >>> >>> Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? >>> >>> I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. >>> >>> I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. >>> Thank you >>> TC:) >>> James >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:43:50 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:43:50 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <1BC5692B-BA45-44CA-9442-14E05E4BE484@gmail.com> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> <1BC5692B-BA45-44CA-9442-14E05E4BE484@gmail.com> Message-ID: <33E89F93-4F85-4718-92B4-655FBB8F8D62@mac-access.net> Sarah I disagree with you here I've used it for ages and allocated 2GB when we've had only 4GB in the machine. It worked fine. Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 02:16, Sarah Alawami wrote: yeah it will. As long as you alocate no more then 1 gb of ram with your guest system. From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 14:44:18 2011 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:44:18 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <04B456B9-84A3-4302-BD55-295FFE13E2B2@mac-access.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> <04B456B9-84A3-4302-BD55-295FFE13E2B2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <16EE27EA-A067-4F4D-804D-E7BD6D9C0179@gmail.com> how do i find out how much ram my iMac i3 processor model can take? has four at the moment On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Mike > > Basically the answer to your question is yes, but I strongly recommend upgrading to 8GB if you possibly can. We've done that on our MBP and all of our servers and it makes a terrific difference even in native OSX which we run 99.9% of the time on the clients and 100% of the time on the server. > > I really would suggest you upgrade. Remember also that the discussion of Windows itself is off topic for this group. But you're very welcome to join our new Windows list. To do so, send a message to and then authenticate. > > If you join that group, you could discuss the virtual machine setup here, then, discuss the actual Windos config on that list. > > Gordon > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 01:34, mike maslo wrote: > > Would the mac run with vm fusion with 4 gb of ram? > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:02 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 > > Hi Lynne and others, > > Copy and paste is working for me now in VM Fusion 3. I was getting > my fingers tangled and using windows commands on my Mac! So much to keep > track of and I have muscle memory after more then 25 years of PC work! > > But, I can now use the copy command on either OS move to the other OS and > use the paste command. this is very useful. > > I bet it works in VM 4. But, I have not been able to get VM 4 to work well > for me yet. > > eric Caron > > On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Eric >> >> I think this still works; although I'm not 100%. I need to isolate our > machine anyway so I'll try and let you know. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:04, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Hi Lynne and others, >> >> Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board > while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. > Is there still a way to do this? >> >> Eric Caron >> On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Geoff >>> >>> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>> . 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do > anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >>> >>> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with > anything Windows. >>> >>> . 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be > possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows > app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >>> >>> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >>> >>> . What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large > sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my > trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring > up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go > through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and > turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have > booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I > could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use > different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >>> >>> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:48:24 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:48:24 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> <62503766-854C-4B6E-A0CE-971C1AB8894A@mac-access.net> <7141AD4A-2E83-451E-92BF-B3DE068C7F0D@gmail.com> <69AF36A0-B19C-4DE9-B5E5-90C7C136EB50@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Will, Yes as far as I understand it, there is an issue with Adobe not providing Flash accessibility o OS X. But there is also an issue with VoiceOver not being able to access it. I don't know if the sec second issue is Apple's responsibility or Adobe's. However, Google and others like W3C are trying to implement HTML5 which will provide developers with the ability to implement a lot or everything of what Flash currently permits. But I do understand your frustrations, and if you've found an alternative, then good for you. TC :) James On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:43, william lomas wrote: > thought it was adobe issue > half the sites i need to help me catch up with tv use it so i use windows a lot more nowadays > > On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:40 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Hi Will, >> >> Actually, Crome does support Flash, as does Safari ad does Lightening. The lack of accessibility with Flash is not browser dependent, but more related to VoiceOver. >> >> TC :) >> James >> On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:33, william lomas wrote: >> >>> what makes chrome better though aren't they all the same? >>> safari? >>> lightning? >>> they all don't provide access to flash because of adobes lack of support so we who need access to flash are stuck >>> >>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hi James >>>> >>>> I'm not sure if this is related to what you're talking about here. But I frequently see issues where VoiceOver doesn't see elements on a web page. Not just links, edit boxes, check boxes, combo boxes, (what Apple called a "Pulldown"), and other element. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure it's a VO issues; because if I refresh the page, they usually come back as visible. >>>> >>>> I'm not using Crome, I haven't even tried it actually, but would be very interested in doing so if I could find the thing for Mac. Must look on Google. >>>> >>>> How accessible is Chrom and how well does it work with VoiceOver in terms of accessibility? >>>> >>>> Thanks, and it is really rest to be back in the land of the living, so to speak. >>>> >>>> Gordon >>>> >>>> On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:13, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>> Evening folks >>>> >>>> Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? >>>> >>>> I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. >>>> >>>> I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. >>>> Thank you >>>> TC:) >>>> James >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:53:05 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:53:05 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: <662A6B4B-EB9F-4CC0-88F8-4E78D4042BCD@mac-access.net> References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> <35101459-BF5E-48A1-AAC0-C6F4A54CF544@mac-access.net> <662A6B4B-EB9F-4CC0-88F8-4E78D4042BCD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello James Let's just say that you're slightly muddying the waters by the fact that you're using Chrome. Chrome isn't an Apple product and, as such, you may not achieve the expect results all of the time. I'm not aware of any official Apple support for Chrome; although to be absolutely fair I've been out of circulation for a while and it's highly possible that things have changed. I'm still paying catch-up in a lot of respects. Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:37, James AUSTIN wrote: Hi Gordon, Could you explain further please? I know you have said that it may not be a VoiceOver issue, but I am slightly confused by this, as despite there being no or little info in the web router, I can still navigate the page independent of that and click on links. Although sometimes, clicking on links is not possible. I'll write you off-list regarding your other questions. Thanks TC :) james On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:32, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi James > > I just wanted to comment on one thing. Just because it works when you restart VoiceOver, that doesn't necessarily imply it's a problem with VoiceOver itself. I know that may not sound logical, but technically there are reasons why this may be true. > > Gordon > > > On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:25, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Hi Zack, > > Interesting. I mean any page really. I'm not sure it's page specific. > > TC :) > james > On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:24, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi James, >> I've never encountered this before, though I primarily use Safari. I'm not sure what you'd consider "lots of links," but I've been on pages with hundreds of them with no problems to speak of. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Evening folks >>> >>> Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? >>> >>> I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. >>> >>> I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. >>> Thank you >>> TC:) >>> James >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:55:44 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:55:44 +0100 Subject: the see more link in apple mail messages: os lion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16AE552F-92EA-4D6E-B286-C3293551A13F@mac-access.net> Hi James I've rad in subsequent messages that this is in "Conversation" view. I hate that name actually, I wish Apple would stop doing that! They are "Threads", not "Conversations". I don't use that view, which explains why I haven't seen this behaviour. Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:41, James AUSTIN wrote: Hi Gordon, Sarah wants to know how she accesses the "see more" link in Mail message. TC :) James On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:35, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Sarah > > This is double Dutch to me. Could you try again please, this time explain your issue. :) > > Gordon > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 00:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > Ok how in the world do I hit that see more link? I have tried vo space, clicking, jumping up and down and screaming out of frustration? Ok not that one yet but how do I access that one? > > Thanks. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 14:57:07 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:57:07 +0100 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <16EE27EA-A067-4F4D-804D-E7BD6D9C0179@gmail.com> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> <04B456B9-84A3-4302-BD55-295FFE13E2B2@mac-access.net> <16EE27EA-A067-4F4D-804D-E7BD6D9C0179@gmail.com> Message-ID: Have a look under "about this Mac > Memory" Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:44, william lomas wrote: how do i find out how much ram my iMac i3 processor model can take? has four at the moment On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Mike > > Basically the answer to your question is yes, but I strongly recommend upgrading to 8GB if you possibly can. We've done that on our MBP and all of our servers and it makes a terrific difference even in native OSX which we run 99.9% of the time on the clients and 100% of the time on the server. > > I really would suggest you upgrade. Remember also that the discussion of Windows itself is off topic for this group. But you're very welcome to join our new Windows list. To do so, send a message to and then authenticate. > > If you join that group, you could discuss the virtual machine setup here, then, discuss the actual Windos config on that list. > > Gordon > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 01:34, mike maslo wrote: > > Would the mac run with vm fusion with 4 gb of ram? > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:02 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 > > Hi Lynne and others, > > Copy and paste is working for me now in VM Fusion 3. I was getting > my fingers tangled and using windows commands on my Mac! So much to keep > track of and I have muscle memory after more then 25 years of PC work! > > But, I can now use the copy command on either OS move to the other OS and > use the paste command. this is very useful. > > I bet it works in VM 4. But, I have not been able to get VM 4 to work well > for me yet. > > eric Caron > > On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Eric >> >> I think this still works; although I'm not 100%. I need to isolate our > machine anyway so I'll try and let you know. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:04, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Hi Lynne and others, >> >> Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board > while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. > Is there still a way to do this? >> >> Eric Caron >> On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Geoff >>> >>> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>> . 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do > anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >>> >>> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with > anything Windows. >>> >>> . 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be > possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows > app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >>> >>> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >>> >>> . What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large > sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my > trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring > up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go > through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and > turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have > booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I > could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use > different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >>> >>> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From mike at busboom.at Fri Sep 23 15:02:23 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:02:23 +0200 Subject: DAISY Reader for the Mac? In-Reply-To: References: <6805CF2C-3421-43F5-8CF9-F7E290FD6F68@busboom.at> Message-ID: <1C5E5B30-8749-496A-B677-2C3D98DE9BAF@busboom.at> Lynne, this appears to be a great resource, and I would like to thank you for telling me about it. I will call the company today, ask a few questions they didn't cover on their site and get back to the list with my impressions. They are based in Indiana, only about 60 miles from where I grew up in Illinois; the world is small. Best regards, Mike On 22,Sep,2011, at 11:39 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Michael > > There are two solutions I know of: 1. Oleria which is a free reader. 2. GH Accessibility's "ReadHear" which is somewhat more expensive but it's also got more features. > > The former doesn't supports library or anything flash; but it plays your files. The second one supports full library functions and is also more proactive to the user. We personally use ReadHear; but it isn't to everybody's needs or liking. > > Just do a google for them and I'm sure you'll find them. If not let us know. > > Onh hang on, I think ReadHear is at http://www.gh-accessibility.com but I can't off hand remember the URL for Oleria. > > Lynne > > > Lynne > > > On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:44, Michael Busboom wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I frequently need to read material that is in the DAISY format. The way I do it now is to download the material to my Mac and then transfer it to my Victor Reader Stream. While this solution works, it isn't always the most convenient. Does anyone know of a program that will let a person read books and articles in the DAISY format on the Mac? I know that apps are available for iPhones, but I would really like something for the Mac. In case there is any confusion, I am not referring to audio files with the DAISY mark-up. > > Thank you, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 15:14:26 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:14:26 +0100 Subject: What's the point of 1Password? Message-ID: <3CF09EB3-6020-467F-8D86-23C9D7FC8FF8@mac-access.net> Hi all We have 1Password installed an active. When we run Safari and log into a website that requires passwords, we're always asked for the password and then the Master Password dialogue of 1Password pops up and asks us to unlock it and then save the website login. Going to the same password again does exactly the same thing, and again, and again, and agin. So what is the point of 1Password? Actually I'm finding 1Password a real pain in the but! I'm sick of this master password dialogue poplin up every time I want to visit a website I've used before and supposedly, saved the log-in info for. Gordon From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 15:21:12 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:21:12 +0100 Subject: DAISY Reader for the Mac? In-Reply-To: <1C5E5B30-8749-496A-B677-2C3D98DE9BAF@busboom.at> References: <6805CF2C-3421-43F5-8CF9-F7E290FD6F68@busboom.at> <1C5E5B30-8749-496A-B677-2C3D98DE9BAF@busboom.at> Message-ID: <41FC14FF-99A0-4CCB-B3EB-55A5EC1F03C8@mac-access.net> Hi Mike Not Lynne this time, but Gordon. Lynne and I use ReadHear quite a lot at night when we want to listen to something a little different and are not in the mood for music. The app is really good, although as I think Lynne said, a little on the expensive side. You have to activate it on their server on a per-machine basis. But you can easily deactivate it and run it on another machine under the same license if you wish. That's a good thing, because it makes it portable. I think it's perfectly fair given their definition of a single user license. Most companies define singe user much more loosely. They don't use activation technologies, of course. But that's just the way it is I guess. We try to respect licensing specifications when we buy something. And GH is no different. But I do wish their prices were a little more reasonable. Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 15:02, Michael Busboom wrote: Lynne, this appears to be a great resource, and I would like to thank you for telling me about it. I will call the company today, ask a few questions they didn't cover on their site and get back to the list with my impressions. They are based in Indiana, only about 60 miles from where I grew up in Illinois; the world is small. Best regards, Mike On 22,Sep,2011, at 11:39 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Michael > > There are two solutions I know of: 1. Oleria which is a free reader. 2. GH Accessibility's "ReadHear" which is somewhat more expensive but it's also got more features. > > The former doesn't supports library or anything flash; but it plays your files. The second one supports full library functions and is also more proactive to the user. We personally use ReadHear; but it isn't to everybody's needs or liking. > > Just do a google for them and I'm sure you'll find them. If not let us know. > > Onh hang on, I think ReadHear is at http://www.gh-accessibility.com but I can't off hand remember the URL for Oleria. > > Lynne > > > Lynne > > > On 22 Sep 2011, at 18:44, Michael Busboom wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I frequently need to read material that is in the DAISY format. The way I do it now is to download the material to my Mac and then transfer it to my Victor Reader Stream. While this solution works, it isn't always the most convenient. Does anyone know of a program that will let a person read books and articles in the DAISY format on the Mac? I know that apps are available for iPhones, but I would really like something for the Mac. In case there is any confusion, I am not referring to audio files with the DAISY mark-up. > > Thank you, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From sean.waiting at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 15:28:26 2011 From: sean.waiting at gmail.com (Sean Waiting) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:28:26 -0000 Subject: help please Message-ID: Dear All I have an apple mac computer and I would like some help find the menu short cut for it please can any body help me please. all the best from sean waiting. From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Sep 23 15:29:41 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 00:29:41 +1000 Subject: What's the point of 1Password? In-Reply-To: <3CF09EB3-6020-467F-8D86-23C9D7FC8FF8@mac-access.net> References: <3CF09EB3-6020-467F-8D86-23C9D7FC8FF8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <038AF566-0DB4-4BD9-9909-E759B6F83301@internode.on.net> Ah well if you save your passwords in 1 Password then you only have to enter your Master Password once in each session. How often you enter your Master Password for 1 Password is determined by the 1 Password Preferences, by default you're asked to enter the "master Password" for each new session of Safari you launch and this is a security measure but can be changed. I think from memory there's a "time-out" feature as well, for example if 1 Password isn't used within 20 minutes then the cache for the software is cleared. I would strongly recommend that you make sure you have the latest upgrade, one just released yesterday I think it was. On 24/09/2011, at 12:14 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi all > > We have 1Password installed an active. When we run Safari and log into a website that requires passwords, we're always asked for the password and then the Master Password dialogue of 1Password pops up and asks us to unlock it and then save the website login. > > Going to the same password again does exactly the same thing, and again, and again, and agin. So what is the point of 1Password? > > Actually I'm finding 1Password a real pain in the but! I'm sick of this master password dialogue poplin up every time I want to visit a website I've used before and supposedly, saved the log-in info for. > > Gordon > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 15:30:06 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:30:06 +0100 Subject: help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Sean if you mean the file, edit, view, etc. menu, press VoceOver+M. Gordo On 23 Sep 2001, at 20:42, Sean Waiting wrote: Dear All I have an apple mac computer and I would like some help find the menu short cut for it please can any body help me please. all the best from sean waiting. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 15:32:47 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:32:47 +0100 Subject: What's the point of 1Password? In-Reply-To: <038AF566-0DB4-4BD9-9909-E759B6F83301@internode.on.net> References: <3CF09EB3-6020-467F-8D86-23C9D7FC8FF8@mac-access.net> <038AF566-0DB4-4BD9-9909-E759B6F83301@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hi Dane, long time no speak. I'll have to check that preference then because Lynne is telling me she did set all that up. But it's entirely possible that something got screwed up during an update. It gets on my nerves, to be honest, being asked every time we repeat a visit to a website, even in the same Safari session, to enter the master password and save the log-in info. I'll go and check it right now though. Thanks. Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 15:29, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah well if you save your passwords in 1 Password then you only have to enter your Master Password once in each session. How often you enter your Master Password for 1 Password is determined by the 1 Password Preferences, by default you're asked to enter the "master Password" for each new session of Safari you launch and this is a security measure but can be changed. I think from memory there's a "time-out" feature as well, for example if 1 Password isn't used within 20 minutes then the cache for the software is cleared. I would strongly recommend that you make sure you have the latest upgrade, one just released yesterday I think it was. On 24/09/2011, at 12:14 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi all > > We have 1Password installed an active. When we run Safari and log into a website that requires passwords, we're always asked for the password and then the Master Password dialogue of 1Password pops up and asks us to unlock it and then save the website login. > > Going to the same password again does exactly the same thing, and again, and again, and agin. So what is the point of 1Password? > > Actually I'm finding 1Password a real pain in the but! I'm sick of this master password dialogue poplin up every time I want to visit a website I've used before and supposedly, saved the log-in info for. > > Gordon > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 15:52:36 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:52:36 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> <35101459-BF5E-48A1-AAC0-C6F4A54CF544@mac-access.net> <662A6B4B-EB9F-4CC0-88F8-4E78D4042BCD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Gordon, I take your point about Crome, but I've also experienced the same issues in Safari. This was the reason that I opted to use Crome, where they happen less often. TC :) James On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:53, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello James > > Let's just say that you're slightly muddying the waters by the fact that you're using Chrome. Chrome isn't an Apple product and, as such, you may not achieve the expect results all of the time. > > I'm not aware of any official Apple support for Chrome; although to be absolutely fair I've been out of circulation for a while and it's highly possible that things have changed. I'm still paying catch-up in a lot of respects. > > Gordon > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:37, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Hi Gordon, > > Could you explain further please? I know you have said that it may not be a VoiceOver issue, but I am slightly confused by this, as despite there being no or little info in the web router, I can still navigate the page independent of that and click on links. Although sometimes, clicking on links is not possible. > > I'll write you off-list regarding your other questions. > Thanks > TC :) > james > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:32, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi James >> >> I just wanted to comment on one thing. Just because it works when you restart VoiceOver, that doesn't necessarily imply it's a problem with VoiceOver itself. I know that may not sound logical, but technically there are reasons why this may be true. >> >> Gordon >> >> >> On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:25, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> Hi Zack, >> >> Interesting. I mean any page really. I'm not sure it's page specific. >> >> TC :) >> james >> On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:24, Zachary Kline wrote: >> >>> Hi James, >>> I've never encountered this before, though I primarily use Safari. I'm not sure what you'd consider "lots of links," but I've been on pages with hundreds of them with no problems to speak of. >>> Best, >>> Zack. >>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> Evening folks >>>> >>>> Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? >>>> >>>> I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have determined that it seems to be an issue with VoiceOver itself, not the web browser. If i restart VoiceOver, it seems to correct itself. >>>> >>>> I'm interested in anyone else's experiences with this. >>>> Thank you >>>> TC:) >>>> James >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 15:56:33 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:56:33 +0100 Subject: the see more link in apple mail messages: os lion In-Reply-To: <16AE552F-92EA-4D6E-B286-C3293551A13F@mac-access.net> References: <16AE552F-92EA-4D6E-B286-C3293551A13F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <56B0AAB8-F0D7-4AB6-871D-E23D81564A8D@mac-access.net> Hi Gordon, Like you, I do not use the so-called "Conversation view" when viewing messages, rather "Classic" view. However, when I am reading messages, I have occasionally come across the "See More" link. Am I missing something? Is there a way to change the reading of messages so that it works as it did in 10.6? Thereby negating the "see more" link? Thank you Best James On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:55, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi James > > I've rad in subsequent messages that this is in "Conversation" view. I hate that name actually, I wish Apple would stop doing that! They are "Threads", not "Conversations". > > I don't use that view, which explains why I haven't seen this behaviour. > > Gordon > > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:41, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Hi Gordon, > > Sarah wants to know how she accesses the "see more" link in Mail message. > > TC :) > James > On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:35, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi Sarah >> >> This is double Dutch to me. Could you try again please, this time explain your issue. :) >> >> Gordon >> >> On 23 Sep 2011, at 00:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >> Ok how in the world do I hit that see more link? I have tried vo space, clicking, jumping up and down and screaming out of frustration? Ok not that one yet but how do I access that one? >> >> Thanks. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris at mysticplace.info Fri Sep 23 16:07:53 2011 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:07:53 -0400 Subject: What's the point of 1Password? In-Reply-To: References: <038AF566-0DB4-4BD9-9909-E759B6F83301@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <20110923110751.60D2.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Hi, You could also give lastpass a try from www.lastpass.com Chris On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:32:47 +0100 Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Dane, long time no speak. > > I'll have to check that preference then because Lynne is telling me she did set all that up. > > But it's entirely possible that something got screwed up during an update. It gets on my nerves, to be honest, being asked every time we repeat a visit to a website, even in the same Safari session, to enter the master password and save the log-in info. > > I'll go and check it right now though. > > Thanks. > > Gordon > > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 15:29, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > Ah well if you save your passwords in 1 Password then you only have to enter your Master Password once in each session. > > How often you enter your Master Password for 1 Password is determined by the 1 Password Preferences, by default you're asked to enter the "master Password" for each new session of Safari you launch and this is a security measure but can be changed. > > I think from memory there's a "time-out" feature as well, for example if 1 Password isn't used within 20 minutes then the cache for the software is cleared. > > I would strongly recommend that you make sure you have the latest upgrade, one just released yesterday I think it was. > > > On 24/09/2011, at 12:14 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > We have 1Password installed an active. When we run Safari and log into a website that requires passwords, we're always asked for the password and then the Master Password dialogue of 1Password pops up and asks us to unlock it and then save the website login. > > > > Going to the same password again does exactly the same thing, and again, and again, and agin. So what is the point of 1Password? > > > > Actually I'm finding 1Password a real pain in the but! I'm sick of this master password dialogue poplin up every time I want to visit a website I've used before and supposedly, saved the log-in info for. > > > > Gordon > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info Mailing lists: lists.mysticplace.info From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Sep 23 16:25:44 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 01:25:44 +1000 Subject: What's the point of 1Password? In-Reply-To: References: <3CF09EB3-6020-467F-8D86-23C9D7FC8FF8@mac-access.net> <038AF566-0DB4-4BD9-9909-E759B6F83301@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <5B4D4F76-8FD8-4045-B4FC-68751C6FC6F2@internode.on.net> If ever you come across the "Save login info" just press the escape key and it will go away. This window may pop-up if you use Safari without using 1 Password to "login" to a site you visit as 1 Password may think that the site hasn't been saved and of course! its not activated at that point as you haven't entered the Master Password so it can be a catch 22 . On 24/09/2011, at 12:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Dane, long time no speak. > > I'll have to check that preference then because Lynne is telling me she did set all that up. > > But it's entirely possible that something got screwed up during an update. It gets on my nerves, to be honest, being asked every time we repeat a visit to a website, even in the same Safari session, to enter the master password and save the log-in info. > > I'll go and check it right now though. > > Thanks. > > Gordon > > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 15:29, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > Ah well if you save your passwords in 1 Password then you only have to enter your Master Password once in each session. > > How often you enter your Master Password for 1 Password is determined by the 1 Password Preferences, by default you're asked to enter the "master Password" for each new session of Safari you launch and this is a security measure but can be changed. > > I think from memory there's a "time-out" feature as well, for example if 1 Password isn't used within 20 minutes then the cache for the software is cleared. > > I would strongly recommend that you make sure you have the latest upgrade, one just released yesterday I think it was. > > > On 24/09/2011, at 12:14 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> We have 1Password installed an active. When we run Safari and log into a website that requires passwords, we're always asked for the password and then the Master Password dialogue of 1Password pops up and asks us to unlock it and then save the website login. >> >> Going to the same password again does exactly the same thing, and again, and again, and agin. So what is the point of 1Password? >> >> Actually I'm finding 1Password a real pain in the but! I'm sick of this master password dialogue poplin up every time I want to visit a website I've used before and supposedly, saved the log-in info for. >> >> Gordon >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Fri Sep 23 16:33:32 2011 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:33:32 +0100 Subject: Question about two apps Message-ID: <4E7CA6CC.8030905@techno-chat.net> Hello all. Has anyone used either Viz Wiz and/or Heytell? What do you all think of them? All comments will be greatly appreciated. Chat soon. From mike at busboom.at Fri Sep 23 16:36:16 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:36:16 +0200 Subject: What is com.apple.dock.extra Message-ID: Hello everyone, Ever since installing Lion, I hear the phrase "com.apple.dock.extra" as soon as Lion is up and running and Voice Over is talking. Can someone shed some light on what is going on, please? My computer is running fine. Best regards, Mike From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 16:39:17 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:39:17 +0100 Subject: VoiceOver not "seing" links In-Reply-To: References: <459680F0-33B8-4B54-9F2B-625F24F3680D@mac-access.net> <35101459-BF5E-48A1-AAC0-C6F4A54CF544@mac-access.net> <662A6B4B-EB9F-4CC0-88F8-4E78D4042BCD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi James I'll try to repro your issue. When I read your message for the first time, your initial message, I mean, I misunderstood it a little. But now I'm on the same page. But I'm not seeing the issue you mentioned. Which version of Safari were you using at the time? Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 15:52, James AUSTIN wrote: I take your point about Crome, but I've also experienced the same issues in Safari. This was the reason that I opted to use Crome, where they happen less often. From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 16:41:41 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:41:41 +0100 Subject: the see more link in apple mail messages: os lion In-Reply-To: <56B0AAB8-F0D7-4AB6-871D-E23D81564A8D@mac-access.net> References: <16AE552F-92EA-4D6E-B286-C3293551A13F@mac-access.net> <56B0AAB8-F0D7-4AB6-871D-E23D81564A8D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8B0507C5-E786-41EE-90AC-965C950E9D12@mac-access.net> Hi James No, I don't think you can change the way it handles messages. We too are using the classic layout because, to be honest, I haven't exactly been on top form lately and wanted something I could just use. I'm going to play around with the modern layout shortly to see if it's any more usable so we'll see. I haven't ever encountered the "See More Links" in any message. Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 15:56, James AUSTIN wrote: Hi Gordon, Like you, I do not use the so-called "Conversation view" when viewing messages, rather "Classic" view. However, when I am reading messages, I have occasionally come across the "See More" link. Am I missing something? Is there a way to change the reading of messages so that it works as it did in 10.6? Thereby negating the "see more" link? Thank you Best James On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:55, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi James > > I've rad in subsequent messages that this is in "Conversation" view. I hate that name actually, I wish Apple would stop doing that! They are "Threads", not "Conversations". > > I don't use that view, which explains why I haven't seen this behaviour. > > Gordon > > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:41, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Hi Gordon, > > Sarah wants to know how she accesses the "see more" link in Mail message. > > TC :) > James > On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:35, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi Sarah >> >> This is double Dutch to me. Could you try again please, this time explain your issue. :) >> >> Gordon >> >> On 23 Sep 2011, at 00:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >> Ok how in the world do I hit that see more link? I have tried vo space, clicking, jumping up and down and screaming out of frustration? Ok not that one yet but how do I access that one? >> >> Thanks. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 16:43:22 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:43:22 +0100 Subject: What's the point of 1Password? In-Reply-To: <20110923110751.60D2.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> References: <038AF566-0DB4-4BD9-9909-E759B6F83301@internode.on.net> <20110923110751.60D2.AD9F0EF3@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <0F821AAA-1334-430B-A4E6-19E1D750FEE6@mac-access.net> Hi Chris Thanks, I'll look. I've just installed the latest version. I think we already had it actually but I re-installed it, plus the Safari extension, just to be on the safe side. I need to play with this though to see how you use it to create strong passwords. Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 16:07, Chris G wrote: Hi, You could also give lastpass a try from www.lastpass.com Chris On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:32:47 +0100 Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Dane, long time no speak. > > I'll have to check that preference then because Lynne is telling me she did set all that up. > > But it's entirely possible that something got screwed up during an update. It gets on my nerves, to be honest, being asked every time we repeat a visit to a website, even in the same Safari session, to enter the master password and save the log-in info. > > I'll go and check it right now though. > > Thanks. > > Gordon > > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 15:29, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > Ah well if you save your passwords in 1 Password then you only have to enter your Master Password once in each session. > > How often you enter your Master Password for 1 Password is determined by the 1 Password Preferences, by default you're asked to enter the "master Password" for each new session of Safari you launch and this is a security measure but can be changed. > > I think from memory there's a "time-out" feature as well, for example if 1 Password isn't used within 20 minutes then the cache for the software is cleared. > > I would strongly recommend that you make sure you have the latest upgrade, one just released yesterday I think it was. > > > On 24/09/2011, at 12:14 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> We have 1Password installed an active. When we run Safari and log into a website that requires passwords, we're always asked for the password and then the Master Password dialogue of 1Password pops up and asks us to unlock it and then save the website login. >> >> Going to the same password again does exactly the same thing, and again, and again, and agin. So what is the point of 1Password? >> >> Actually I'm finding 1Password a real pain in the but! I'm sick of this master password dialogue poplin up every time I want to visit a website I've used before and supposedly, saved the log-in info for. >> >> Gordon >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > - The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info Mailing lists: lists.mysticplace.info <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 16:45:55 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:45:55 +0100 Subject: What's the point of 1Password? In-Reply-To: <5B4D4F76-8FD8-4045-B4FC-68751C6FC6F2@internode.on.net> References: <3CF09EB3-6020-467F-8D86-23C9D7FC8FF8@mac-access.net> <038AF566-0DB4-4BD9-9909-E759B6F83301@internode.on.net> <5B4D4F76-8FD8-4045-B4FC-68751C6FC6F2@internode.on.net> Message-ID: I'm lead to believe that you can press Command+Backslash or Command+Option+Backslash from the command prompt and 1Password will pop up. Is that right? I gather it will present you with a list of sites you've visited. If this is right, how I read it from the docs, it ain't working here. Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 16:25, Dane Trethowan wrote: If ever you come across the "Save login info" just press the escape key and it will go away. This window may pop-up if you use Safari without using 1 Password to "login" to a site you visit as 1 Password may think that the site hasn't been saved and of course! its not activated at that point as you haven't entered the Master Password so it can be a catch 22 . On 24/09/2011, at 12:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Dane, long time no speak. > > I'll have to check that preference then because Lynne is telling me she did set all that up. > > But it's entirely possible that something got screwed up during an update. It gets on my nerves, to be honest, being asked every time we repeat a visit to a website, even in the same Safari session, to enter the master password and save the log-in info. > > I'll go and check it right now though. > > Thanks. > > Gordon > > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 15:29, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > Ah well if you save your passwords in 1 Password then you only have to enter your Master Password once in each session. > > How often you enter your Master Password for 1 Password is determined by the 1 Password Preferences, by default you're asked to enter the "master Password" for each new session of Safari you launch and this is a security measure but can be changed. > > I think from memory there's a "time-out" feature as well, for example if 1 Password isn't used within 20 minutes then the cache for the software is cleared. > > I would strongly recommend that you make sure you have the latest upgrade, one just released yesterday I think it was. > > > On 24/09/2011, at 12:14 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> We have 1Password installed an active. When we run Safari and log into a website that requires passwords, we're always asked for the password and then the Master Password dialogue of 1Password pops up and asks us to unlock it and then save the website login. >> >> Going to the same password again does exactly the same thing, and again, and again, and agin. So what is the point of 1Password? >> >> Actually I'm finding 1Password a real pain in the but! I'm sick of this master password dialogue poplin up every time I want to visit a website I've used before and supposedly, saved the log-in info for. >> >> Gordon >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From mike at busboom.at Fri Sep 23 16:51:01 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:51:01 +0200 Subject: Take Control of Spotlight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1D3FBADB-70C1-437D-B141-9B56B5F3FB5B@busboom.at> Hi there, I would very much like to purchase "Take Control of Spotlight" from you. I remember that we pay via Paypal. Please let me know how to proceed. With best regards from Austria, Mike On 16,Sep,2011, at 9:07 PM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody; especially our Take Control fans > > If you've ever misplaced a file on your Mac and despaired of locating it again, we have a find for you: Sharon Zardetto's latest title, "Take Control of Spotlight for Finding Anything on Your Mac." The 158-page ebook is now available for just ?2.41 GBP from Mac Access Dot Net. > > Join Sharon as she explores the hidden depths of Spotlight searching, one of Mac OS X's most powerful yet least explained features. No matter how carefully you organise files and folders on your Mac, it's easy to lose important items. With Sharon's help, you can aim Apple's Spotlight quickly and precisely, and stop rummaging around in the darkness of your disk. > > After Sharon explains how Spotlight indexes your data and the "grammar" behind Spotlight searches, you'll examine the many ways you can start Spotlight searches: the magnifying glass in the menu bar, the search field in Finder windows or the Open and Save dialogs, a keyboard shortcut, a contextual menu, or customized and saved searches you've made for yourself. > > Then it's on to learning how to find exactly what you're looking for using keyword searches, multiple-criteria searches, Boolean searches, and more. And here's where you'll learn the most valuable lesson about Spotlight, which Apple has never fully explained, which is how to search directly using Spotlight's internal search language, making even complex searches quick and easy. > > Remember, searches aren't just about finding lost files, they're also useful for selecting a set of matching files to work on. For instance, we've used Spotlight to identify which photos in a folder are small thumbnails or which of our ebooks lack a certain phrase. You can even do things like find every GarageBand song in the key of E-flat. > > You'll learn these search-related techniques: > > * Improve search accuracy by limiting Spotlight to searching just where you want. > * Reduce result clutter by choosing which categories should appear in the Spotlight menu. > * Learn what to do when the Spotlight menu doesn't list an item that it should be able to find. > * Use criteria bars (and even the elusive Boolean bars!) to create complex search queries. > * Bypass criteria bars by typing complex, powerful queries in any Spotlight search field. > * Build Boolean searches with AND, OR, and NOT to narrow your search results precisely. > > In addition, you'll find out how to make your files even easier to find with these techniques: > > * Customise a file's metadata. > * Employ free third-party utilities to give your files useful, searchable tags. > * Set up sophisticated smart folders that provide dynamic file organization. > > In these days of terabyte drives, your Mac has enormous storage capacity, and you may have many thousands of files squirreled away (we don't even want to admit to how many hundreds of thousands of files are filling up our disks!). But with the Spotlight expertise you'll gain from this ebook, you'll be able to retrieve anything on your Mac, no matter how deeply it's buried or how specific you need to make your search. > > Although there's something in this ebook for all Mac users, including novices and power users, we were particularly pleased to learn more about typing complex search queries, making us faster and more fluid with our Macs than ever before! So, whether you've hardly realized that there's a fancy search engine in your Mac or you know it's there but have yet to harness its full power, get started with "Take Control of Spotlight for Finding Anything on Your Mac" today. > > If you are interested, we can expedite your orders right away. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From melissah at fuse.net Fri Sep 23 17:12:37 2011 From: melissah at fuse.net (Missy Hoppe) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:12:37 -0400 Subject: What is com.apple.dock.extra In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8197F3F9BB30415BAD118B5BAD1CDA45@HOPPE1> It's a pain in the tail is what it is. LOL! No idea what causes it, but supposedly, Apple is aware of the problem. Command-tab makes it go away, but for some reason, having to command-tab right away when I start my system irritates me. It's 1 of the many reasons I'm still using Snow Leopard for now. Weirdly enough, not everyone seems to get this particular problem, but I know plenty of us who are being frustrated by it. I think most cope with it better than I do though. (smile) I hope this helps, and that you're having a great day. Missy -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:36 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: What is com.apple.dock.extra Hello everyone, Ever since installing Lion, I hear the phrase "com.apple.dock.extra" as soon as Lion is up and running and Voice Over is talking. Can someone shed some light on what is going on, please? My computer is running fine. Best regards, Mike <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From mike at busboom.at Fri Sep 23 17:14:57 2011 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:14:57 +0200 Subject: Very sorry for posting to entire list Message-ID: The subject says it all. I meant for my "Take Control of Spotlight" to be a private posting. Please accept my apologies. Mike From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 17:23:16 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:23:16 -0400 Subject: Browsing sdef files in AppleScriptEditor. References: <976DC41A4BBC4648B5D358F06E608A0A@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <2BC436EB-C420-43C7-9E52-03CB77B9B57B@softcon.com> Message-ID: <33B8BF598839458B848D53A85CABFD09@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Travis, Thanks much for your post, but perhaps someone can clarify a bit? When I open VoiceOver.sdef I can interact with the outer table and traverse the available objects and commands. In Lion, from the top it reads: VoiceOver suite perform command grab screenshot click ... No matter which item is selected, I can only jump to the top of the HTML file. This does show a table with two columns and one row, but when I attempt to interact, VO treats it as text rather than a table. Perhaps a specific example will better illustrate where I'm stuck. I have AppleScript enabled in VO utility, and when I insert the two voiceOver check handler logic from the included "time of day" script can get the expected result from a "output" statement. Don't know why it didn't work when the script only consisted of a tell block, but that might be a question for another day. Lets say that my objective is to toggle the keyboard commander. The sdef file shows a "commander object". which responds to "perform command". I could not find any documentation of the types of commanders, but assume the available options are: "trackpad, keyboard, numeric, and quicknav. My thought is that this must be documented somewhere? Anyway, I looked up "perform command" which said: "Perform command text -- the English name of the VoiceOver command to perform". Okay, so based on what I read and already knew about voiceOver commanders I entered the following in AppleScriptEditor: ... handler logic copied from time of day script tell application "VoiceOver" Perform command "Toggle Keyboard Commander On or Off" end tell This is the exact text under commands menu -> general. I also tried just the first three words and adding only one specifier (IE "Toggle Keyboard Commander On". Regardless, I get an error #4 from VoiceOver at runtime. TIA for any getting started help, as I'd really like to put together a script that would better automate copying large blocks from web pages, which would involve toggling a number of VoiceOver objects. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Travis Siegel To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:40 PM Subject: Re: Browsing sdef files in AppleScriptEditor. When you're interacting with the sdef files, I've found no way to jump to sections, headers, and the like, I simply go down the column that lists the functions, then simply go across the row when I hit one I want to know more about. Once you interact with the table in question, regular vo up/down/right/left arrows works just fine for navigating the information in the table. On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings, > > When opening a scriptable dictionary file (e.g VoiceOver.sdef) the > available commands and objects are placed in a tree view. I assume > there must be a quick way to view text associated with the item in > focus, but it eludes me so far. VO-j always goes to the beginning > and there does not appear to be a shortcut menu. > > Is there an easier method to jump to the item of interest, or is > the item chooser the only game in town? TIA for any suggestions > and best regards. > Geoff > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- > access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From grtdane at internode.on.net Fri Sep 23 17:27:07 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 02:27:07 +1000 Subject: What's the point of 1Password? In-Reply-To: References: <3CF09EB3-6020-467F-8D86-23C9D7FC8FF8@mac-access.net> <038AF566-0DB4-4BD9-9909-E759B6F83301@internode.on.net> <5B4D4F76-8FD8-4045-B4FC-68751C6FC6F2@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4D6EAD06-069F-4D89-977D-2DE66D99311B@internode.on.net> Command-\ works from Safari yep but this command still has some accessibility issues which are being worked on so you may not be able to access it in Safari. Its a bit odd in its behaviour at times too! For example, suppose you visit a site which you have saved in 1 Password and press command-\, sometimes you're asked to enter the Master Password and then 1 Password automatically logs into the site which was the default behaviour of this shortcut before Lion and the additional functionality of the Safari 1 Password extension came along. The most reliable way to log into a web site I've found thus far is to go into the 1 Password application itself, find the site login you want by using the "search" function which has focus once the master password is entered and then pressing option-command-enter to "Autofill login", this command runs sfarai, brings up the login page and logs into the site. On 24/09/2011, at 1:45 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > I'm lead to believe that you can press Command+Backslash or Command+Option+Backslash from the command prompt and 1Password will pop up. Is that right? I gather it will present you with a list of sites you've visited. If this is right, how I read it from the docs, it ain't working here. > > Gordon > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 16:25, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > If ever you come across the "Save login info" just press the escape key and it will go away. > > This window may pop-up if you use Safari without using 1 Password to "login" to a site you visit as 1 Password may think that the site hasn't been saved and of course! its not activated at that point as you haven't entered the Master Password so it can be a catch 22 . > > > On 24/09/2011, at 12:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi Dane, long time no speak. >> >> I'll have to check that preference then because Lynne is telling me she did set all that up. >> >> But it's entirely possible that something got screwed up during an update. It gets on my nerves, to be honest, being asked every time we repeat a visit to a website, even in the same Safari session, to enter the master password and save the log-in info. >> >> I'll go and check it right now though. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Gordon >> >> >> On 23 Sep 2011, at 15:29, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> Ah well if you save your passwords in 1 Password then you only have to enter your Master Password once in each session. >> >> How often you enter your Master Password for 1 Password is determined by the 1 Password Preferences, by default you're asked to enter the "master Password" for each new session of Safari you launch and this is a security measure but can be changed. >> >> I think from memory there's a "time-out" feature as well, for example if 1 Password isn't used within 20 minutes then the cache for the software is cleared. >> >> I would strongly recommend that you make sure you have the latest upgrade, one just released yesterday I think it was. >> >> >> On 24/09/2011, at 12:14 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> We have 1Password installed an active. When we run Safari and log into a website that requires passwords, we're always asked for the password and then the Master Password dialogue of 1Password pops up and asks us to unlock it and then save the website login. >>> >>> Going to the same password again does exactly the same thing, and again, and again, and agin. So what is the point of 1Password? >>> >>> Actually I'm finding 1Password a real pain in the but! I'm sick of this master password dialogue poplin up every time I want to visit a website I've used before and supposedly, saved the log-in info for. >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 17:37:52 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:37:52 -0400 Subject: Very sorry for posting to entire list References: Message-ID: <5A885C8FFA4E40ADA82C850638746A14@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hey Michael, How bout posting your payPal password for us please? ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Busboom To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:14 PM Subject: Very sorry for posting to entire list The subject says it all. I meant for my "Take Control of Spotlight" to be a private posting. Please accept my apologies. Mike <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Fri Sep 23 18:52:03 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:52:03 +0100 Subject: Take Control of Spotlight In-Reply-To: <1D3FBADB-70C1-437D-B141-9B56B5F3FB5B@busboom.at> References: <1D3FBADB-70C1-437D-B141-9B56B5F3FB5B@busboom.at> Message-ID: <9B4B746B-9C9E-42A6-9BDA-BA242C6A3E65@mac-access.net> Mike Please contact Lynne privately. She takes care of this now. But give us a little while as we're just off out. Gordon On 23 Sep 2011, at 16:51, Michael Busboom wrote: Hi there, I would very much like to purchase "Take Control of Spotlight" from you. I remember that we pay via Paypal. Please let me know how to proceed. With best regards from Austria, Mike On 16,Sep,2011, at 9:07 PM, Gordon & Lynne Smith wrote: > Hello everybody; especially our Take Control fans > > If you've ever misplaced a file on your Mac and despaired of locating it again, we have a find for you: Sharon Zardetto's latest title, "Take Control of Spotlight for Finding Anything on Your Mac." The 158-page ebook is now available for just ?2.41 GBP from Mac Access Dot Net. > > Join Sharon as she explores the hidden depths of Spotlight searching, one of Mac OS X's most powerful yet least explained features. No matter how carefully you organise files and folders on your Mac, it's easy to lose important items. With Sharon's help, you can aim Apple's Spotlight quickly and precisely, and stop rummaging around in the darkness of your disk. > > After Sharon explains how Spotlight indexes your data and the "grammar" behind Spotlight searches, you'll examine the many ways you can start Spotlight searches: the magnifying glass in the menu bar, the search field in Finder windows or the Open and Save dialogs, a keyboard shortcut, a contextual menu, or customized and saved searches you've made for yourself. > > Then it's on to learning how to find exactly what you're looking for using keyword searches, multiple-criteria searches, Boolean searches, and more. And here's where you'll learn the most valuable lesson about Spotlight, which Apple has never fully explained, which is how to search directly using Spotlight's internal search language, making even complex searches quick and easy. > > Remember, searches aren't just about finding lost files, they're also useful for selecting a set of matching files to work on. For instance, we've used Spotlight to identify which photos in a folder are small thumbnails or which of our ebooks lack a certain phrase. You can even do things like find every GarageBand song in the key of E-flat. > > You'll learn these search-related techniques: > > * Improve search accuracy by limiting Spotlight to searching just where you want. > * Reduce result clutter by choosing which categories should appear in the Spotlight menu. > * Learn what to do when the Spotlight menu doesn't list an item that it should be able to find. > * Use criteria bars (and even the elusive Boolean bars!) to create complex search queries. > * Bypass criteria bars by typing complex, powerful queries in any Spotlight search field. > * Build Boolean searches with AND, OR, and NOT to narrow your search results precisely. > > In addition, you'll find out how to make your files even easier to find with these techniques: > > * Customise a file's metadata. > * Employ free third-party utilities to give your files useful, searchable tags. > * Set up sophisticated smart folders that provide dynamic file organization. > > In these days of terabyte drives, your Mac has enormous storage capacity, and you may have many thousands of files squirreled away (we don't even want to admit to how many hundreds of thousands of files are filling up our disks!). But with the Spotlight expertise you'll gain from this ebook, you'll be able to retrieve anything on your Mac, no matter how deeply it's buried or how specific you need to make your search. > > Although there's something in this ebook for all Mac users, including novices and power users, we were particularly pleased to learn more about typing complex search queries, making us faster and more fluid with our Macs than ever before! So, whether you've hardly realized that there's a fancy search engine in your Mac or you know it's there but have yet to harness its full power, get started with "Take Control of Spotlight for Finding Anything on Your Mac" today. > > If you are interested, we can expedite your orders right away. > > Lynne > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Sep 23 19:06:11 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:06:11 -0700 Subject: the see more link in apple mail messages: os lion In-Reply-To: <56B0AAB8-F0D7-4AB6-871D-E23D81564A8D@mac-access.net> References: <16AE552F-92EA-4D6E-B286-C3293551A13F@mac-access.net> <56B0AAB8-F0D7-4AB6-871D-E23D81564A8D@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <17FB7D92-25DD-4405-B667-BC0C7392F0A5@gmail.com> I use the conversation view so I don't have to use 2 hands to read mail and I can quickly skim. See mark taylor's blog for a more explaining definination. Take care. On Sep 23, 2011, at 7:56 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Gordon, > > Like you, I do not use the so-called "Conversation view" when viewing messages, rather "Classic" view. > > However, when I am reading messages, I have occasionally come across the "See More" link. Am I missing something? Is there a way to change the reading of messages so that it works as it did in 10.6? Thereby negating the "see more" link? > > Thank you > Best > James > On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:55, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi James >> >> I've rad in subsequent messages that this is in "Conversation" view. I hate that name actually, I wish Apple would stop doing that! They are "Threads", not "Conversations". >> >> I don't use that view, which explains why I haven't seen this behavior. >> >> Gordon >> >> >> On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:41, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> Hi Gordon, >> >> Sarah wants to know how she accesses the "see more" link in Mail message. >> >> TC :) >> James >> On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:35, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah >>> >>> This is double Dutch to me. Could you try again please, this time explain your issue. :) >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> On 23 Sep 2011, at 00:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>> Ok how in the world do I hit that see more link? I have tried vo space, clicking, jumping up and down and screaming out of frustration? Ok not that one yet but how do I access that one? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Fri Sep 23 23:56:19 2011 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:56:19 -0400 Subject: What is com.apple.dock.extra In-Reply-To: <8197F3F9BB30415BAD118B5BAD1CDA45@HOPPE1> References: <8197F3F9BB30415BAD118B5BAD1CDA45@HOPPE1> Message-ID: <0LRZ002DRZPYTVQ4@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Hi! Thanks for the tip. I thought it was an error message. I'd love to get rid of it. Matthew Chao At 12:12 PM 9/23/2011, you wrote: >It's a pain in the tail is what it is. LOL! No idea what causes it, >but supposedly, Apple is aware of the problem. >Command-tab makes it go away, but for some reason, having to >command-tab right away when I start my system irritates me. It's >1 of the many reasons I'm still using Snow Leopard for now. Weirdly >enough, not everyone seems to get this particular >problem, but I know plenty of us who are being frustrated by it. I >think most cope with it better than I do though. (smile) I >hope this helps, and that you're having a great day. >Missy > >-----Original Message----- >From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >[mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom >Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:36 AM >To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >Subject: What is com.apple.dock.extra > >Hello everyone, > >Ever since installing Lion, I hear the phrase "com.apple.dock.extra" >as soon as Lion is up and running and Voice Over is >talking. > >Can someone shed some light on what is going on, please? My >computer is running fine. > >Best regards, > >Mike > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > This email was scanned by VIPRE version 4.0.4194 when it was sent, using definitions version 10560 From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 01:17:47 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:17:47 -0700 Subject: What is com.apple.dock.extra In-Reply-To: <8197F3F9BB30415BAD118B5BAD1CDA45@HOPPE1> References: <8197F3F9BB30415BAD118B5BAD1CDA45@HOPPE1> Message-ID: <9B11F661-1727-4E77-855E-54DCC217897F@gmail.com> I have the problem but it does go away after a while. I always by habit cmd tabed tothe finder since snl don't ask me why so tha'ts fine lol! but I do wish it would go way and the more of us that bug the problem the more I think apple will be able to fix it. On Sep 23, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > It's a pain in the tail is what it is. LOL! No idea what causes it, but supposedly, Apple is aware of the problem. > Command-tab makes it go away, but for some reason, having to command-tab right away when I start my system irritates me. It's > 1 of the many reasons I'm still using Snow Leopard for now. Weirdly enough, not everyone seems to get this particular > problem, but I know plenty of us who are being frustrated by it. I think most cope with it better than I do though. (smile) I > hope this helps, and that you're having a great day. > Missy > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:36 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: What is com.apple.dock.extra > > Hello everyone, > > Ever since installing Lion, I hear the phrase "com.apple.dock.extra" as soon as Lion is up and running and Voice Over is > talking. > > Can someone shed some light on what is going on, please? My computer is running fine. > > Best regards, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Sat Sep 24 01:17:57 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (mike maslo) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:17:57 -0500 Subject: VM fusion Message-ID: <001801cc7a4f$6a09bd50$3e1d37f0$@swbell.net> Hi everyone I have seen suggestions for when I use vm firmware on how it should be configured. I understand that the windows is off topic but my question is if I have 4 gb of memory, what should or how should I set the memory? I saw someone say guest should be 1 gb. When you say guest is that mac or when I configure and it asks me on vm fusion that I should allocate 1 gb? Thanks for the help. From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Sep 24 01:54:39 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:54:39 -0500 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> Message-ID: Yes, this should be plenty of memory On Sep 22, 2011, at 7:34 PM, mike maslo wrote: > Would the mac run with vm fusion with 4 gb of ram? > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:02 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 > > Hi Lynne and others, > > Copy and paste is working for me now in VM Fusion 3. I was getting > my fingers tangled and using windows commands on my Mac! So much to keep > track of and I have muscle memory after more then 25 years of PC work! > > But, I can now use the copy command on either OS move to the other OS and > use the paste command. this is very useful. > > I bet it works in VM 4. But, I have not been able to get VM 4 to work well > for me yet. > > eric Caron > > On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello Eric >> >> I think this still works; although I'm not 100%. I need to isolate our > machine anyway so I'll try and let you know. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:04, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Hi Lynne and others, >> >> Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board > while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. > Is there still a way to do this? >> >> Eric Caron >> On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Geoff >>> >>> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>> . 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do > anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >>> >>> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with > anything Windows. >>> >>> . 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be > possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows > app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >>> >>> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >>> >>> . What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large > sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my > trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring > up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go > through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and > turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have > booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I > could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use > different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >>> >>> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Sat Sep 24 02:13:35 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (mike maslo) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:13:35 -0500 Subject: VM fusion 4.01 Message-ID: <000301cc7a57$2f2ddce0$8d8996a0$@swbell.net> Hi list sorry one more question. How much hard drive space should I allocate for vm fusion and the running or installation of windows as well as how much memory please. Thanks again in advance. From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Sep 24 11:10:32 2011 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 07:10:32 -0300 Subject: Navigon now question. Message-ID: <16FD065C11AF44D69AB7B6BA0222BC89@MainComputer> Hi Folks: Is it possible to use Navigon now to search for POIS? If so, how so? Thanks. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6489 (20110923) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From grtdane at internode.on.net Sat Sep 24 13:51:37 2011 From: grtdane at internode.on.net (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 22:51:37 +1000 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro becoming sluggish with Voiceover in long documents Message-ID: <23DE3E01-582A-4861-8D3F-ED3A6EABEA07@internode.on.net> This is a problem I'm noticing now and I'm sure I've not seen it before, has anyone else experienced this? I have an 8 page document I've written up here and the more I add the more sluggish Voiceover seems to become, this problem seems to have appeared since I installed the last Nisus Writer Pro update of a few weeks ago. I'm going to try some other tests such as copying the document to a new file, removing and redoing formatting etc to see what happens. From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 14:27:17 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:27:17 +0100 Subject: VM fusion In-Reply-To: <001801cc7a4f$6a09bd50$3e1d37f0$@swbell.net> References: <001801cc7a4f$6a09bd50$3e1d37f0$@swbell.net> Message-ID: Mike The "Guest" OS is the Windows configuration. The "Host" is Mac OS in this case. In other words the OS you boot into is the host and your virtual machines are the guests. As for your question about more memory. If you upgraded to 8GB for instance, and then opted to allocate 5 or 6 GB to Windows, that would be perfectly alright. The 50% advice is just what's commonly known as "playing it safe". But in the real world, you can get away with much more than that. Gordon On 24 Sep 2011, at 01:17, mike maslo wrote: Hi everyone I have seen suggestions for when I use vm firmware on how it should be configured. I understand that the windows is off topic but my question is if I have 4 gb of memory, what should or how should I set the memory? I saw someone say guest should be 1 gb. When you say guest is that mac or when I configure and it asks me on vm fusion that I should allocate 1 gb? Thanks for the help. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 14:29:25 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:29:25 +0100 Subject: VM fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <000301cc7a57$2f2ddce0$8d8996a0$@swbell.net> References: <000301cc7a57$2f2ddce0$8d8996a0$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <11546836-CA2C-4699-BF45-F8F121D7B1A7@mac-access.net> Mike I always set the value to something silly, such as 1TB. Although you're never going to be able to use that, the reason I do it is so that I'm sure that whatever I do I'm never going to run short on my configuration. It works well this way and I recommend it. Gordon On 24 Sep 2011, at 02:13, mike maslo wrote: Hi list sorry one more question. How much hard drive space should I allocate for vm fusion and the running or installation of windows as well as how much memory please. Thanks again in advance. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 14:30:59 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:30:59 +0100 Subject: Nisus Writer Pro becoming sluggish with Voiceover in long documents In-Reply-To: <23DE3E01-582A-4861-8D3F-ED3A6EABEA07@internode.on.net> References: <23DE3E01-582A-4861-8D3F-ED3A6EABEA07@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Hi Dane Yes, I noticed that a while back while writing a report. I don't think it's a VoiceOver issue since Lynne has also said that she's seeing sluggish behaviour even without VO. I think it's a Nisus issue. Gordon On 24 Sep 2011, at 13:51, Dane Trethowan wrote: This is a problem I'm noticing now and I'm sure I've not seen it before, has anyone else experienced this? I have an 8 page document I've written up here and the more I add the more sluggish Voiceover seems to become, this problem seems to have appeared since I installed the last Nisus Writer Pro update of a few weeks ago. I'm going to try some other tests such as copying the document to a new file, removing and redoing formatting etc to see what happens. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 15:02:57 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:02:57 +0100 Subject: Remotely logging into a Mac via SSH Message-ID: Hi all i wonder if anybody could answer this for me. When you log into another terminal, such as a Mac, via SSH, is it possible to run an application on that Mac, and have the display piped to the remote machine? For instance; could one run something like Pages on the remote machine (server) and see the output on the local terminal and interact with it? This probably isn't possible, I can see a hundred reasons why it wouldn't work. But I'm kind of clutching at straws since I would very much like a remote admin solution similar to the ones offered in the Windows environment. I know that all of the virtual ones offered by Internet providers, (such as Teamwork, Virtual PC and others) are inaccessible and, therefore, not an option. The SSH thing was the only one I could think of that might just work. Gordon From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 15:41:26 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:41:26 +0100 Subject: Remotely logging into a Mac via SSH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2DE8E988-1064-4DBE-9674-A5E47FCC1F45@mac-access.net> Hi Gordon, I'd need to lok into your SSH question to be able to answer it, but another solution has occurred to me, although I'm sure you've probably thought of it. How about using iChat as a remote tech support/admin interface. It's Screen Sharing functionality is excellent and I have been able to solve technical issues using it. It also works with VO. The only caveat is that iChat would have to be running on the other machine with the Screen Sharing already active. Not nearly as elegant as SSH, but maybe a possibility. TC :) James On 24 Sep 2011, at 15:02, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi all > > i wonder if anybody could answer this for me. When you log into another terminal, such as a Mac, via SSH, is it possible to run an application on that Mac, and have the display piped to the remote machine? > > For instance; could one run something like Pages on the remote machine (server) and see the output on the local terminal and interact with it? > > This probably isn't possible, I can see a hundred reasons why it wouldn't work. But I'm kind of clutching at straws since I would very much like a remote admin solution similar to the ones offered in the Windows environment. I know that all of the virtual ones offered by Internet providers, (such as Teamwork, Virtual PC and others) are inaccessible and, therefore, not an option. The SSH thing was the only one I could think of that might just work. > > Gordon > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Sat Sep 24 15:48:37 2011 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:48:37 -0400 Subject: What's the point of 1Password? In-Reply-To: <3CF09EB3-6020-467F-8D86-23C9D7FC8FF8@mac-access.net> References: <3CF09EB3-6020-467F-8D86-23C9D7FC8FF8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I am a happy convert to 1Password on my Mac, iphone & ipad. I do not, however, knowingly allow any applications to pass passwords to websites or other requesters, and 1Password is no exception. If I cannot recall an ID or password, I take the extra minute to launch 1Password, listen to the info I need, and then manually enter it into the requesting website or application. This practice probably stems from a high level of paranoia I acquired while working in corporate IT security for a number of years, YMMV. Prior to converting to 1Password, I had used a product called SplashID on my Palm, Mac and Windows devices for years, but that product had serious issues when it came to syncing the database to multiple IOS devices, so after doing my research and following discussions by Dane and others, I jumped on 1Password when it went on sale a few months ago as part of a Macupdate promo bundle. Cheers, Bryan On Sep 23, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > We have 1Password installed an active. When we run Safari and log into a website that requires passwords, we're always asked for the password and then the Master Password dialogue of 1Password pops up and asks us to unlock it and then save the website login. From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 15:52:26 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:52:26 +0100 Subject: Remotely logging into a Mac via SSH In-Reply-To: <2DE8E988-1064-4DBE-9674-A5E47FCC1F45@mac-access.net> References: <2DE8E988-1064-4DBE-9674-A5E47FCC1F45@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <7E36AD81-EC51-435C-8D0E-697E5E168AA5@mac-access.net> Hi James Hum! Actually I didn't hunk of that. I probably should have because I considered, and dismissed, Skype screen sharing as a solution. That method is too clunky, to use one of Lynne's favourite words. :) I guess it's time to configure our iChat server. Thanks for the suggestion. Gordon On 24 Sep 2011, at 15:41, James AUSTIN wrote: Hi Gordon, I'd need to lok into your SSH question to be able to answer it, but another solution has occurred to me, although I'm sure you've probably thought of it. How about using iChat as a remote tech support/admin interface. It's Screen Sharing functionality is excellent and I have been able to solve technical issues using it. It also works with VO. The only caveat is that iChat would have to be running on the other machine with the Screen Sharing already active. Not nearly as elegant as SSH, but maybe a possibility. TC :) James On 24 Sep 2011, at 15:02, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi all > > i wonder if anybody could answer this for me. When you log into another terminal, such as a Mac, via SSH, is it possible to run an application on that Mac, and have the display piped to the remote machine? > > For instance; could one run something like Pages on the remote machine (server) and see the output on the local terminal and interact with it? > > This probably isn't possible, I can see a hundred reasons why it wouldn't work. But I'm kind of clutching at straws since I would very much like a remote admin solution similar to the ones offered in the Windows environment. I know that all of the virtual ones offered by Internet providers, (such as Teamwork, Virtual PC and others) are inaccessible and, therefore, not an option. The SSH thing was the only one I could think of that might just work. > > Gordon > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 16:11:03 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:11:03 +0100 Subject: What's the point of 1Password? In-Reply-To: References: <3CF09EB3-6020-467F-8D86-23C9D7FC8FF8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Bryan 1Password doesn't seem to be doing a lot here, despite the fact that, I thin, it's properly configured. I set it up to allow us to auto-login. But still we're being presented with website passwords and asked to save the darn thing every time by 1Password. We have the latest OSX extension installed and configured. Per Dane's suggestion of yesterday I did go in to the preferences and configure the password preferences. I set them to what should have been automated mode, but to no effect it seems. We have the latest 1Password application installed. Clearly I'm doing something wrong but i'm absolutely baffled by what it might be. I'm getting to the point now where I'm contemplating using the very excellent "TrashMe" application to zap the darn thing and then just go back to the old way of doing things, manually. I'd rather not, as the concept of 1Password does, I can't deny, appeal to me. It has some very nice side-features which although we haven't yet used, I'm sure we could make good use of them if we could get the thing configured. But, it's just the usual thing I guess, time getting in the way at the moment. I've been working since 7 this morning to catch up with things I should have got done this week for my paid side of things. Those are now done and ready for the masses on Monday. So I'm trying now to get things configured for the non-commercial side of our operations and just today we overcame a very large obstacle which has been presenting a very big problem for a couple of months. Anyway, back to the point. I'll probably end up tearing up the existing work sheet and starting again. I'm not just throwing in the towel, don't get me wrong. I'm sure that 1Password is capable of far more and better than it's doing right now. I don't dispute for a second that this is most likely user configuration error. But at the moment it has me most confused. As for your security concerns, yes, I understand them totally. In fact I share some of them. But in all fairness, I think 1Password is pretty safe, since it's been designed from the ground up to be so. It's hard sometimes to let go of old paranoia. I still have a few of them which I just can't drop. But I think it's safe enough to trust 1Password. But I think I'll drop that just for now and see if I can set up TrueCrypt. Lynne tried, but gave up after a while because she found it too complicated. Well, she isn't a bird like me, I'll have a shot at it now and see if I can't encrypt a folder or two so that we can store it on Drop Box etc. Gordon On 24 Sep 2011, at 15:48, Bryan Jones wrote: I am a happy convert to 1Password on my Mac, iphone & ipad. I do not, however, knowingly allow any applications to pass passwords to websites or other requesters, and 1Password is no exception. If I cannot recall an ID or password, I take the extra minute to launch 1Password, listen to the info I need, and then manually enter it into the requesting website or application. This practice probably stems from a high level of paranoia I acquired while working in corporate IT security for a number of years, YMMV. Prior to converting to 1Password, I had used a product called SplashID on my Palm, Mac and Windows devices for years, but that product had serious issues when it came to syncing the database to multiple IOS devices, so after doing my research and following discussions by Dane and others, I jumped on 1Password when it went on sale a few months ago as part of a Macupdate promo bundle. Cheers, Bryan On Sep 23, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > We have 1Password installed an active. When we run Safari and log into a website that requires passwords, we're always asked for the password and then the Master Password dialogue of 1Password pops up and asks us to unlock it and then save the website login. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Sat Sep 24 16:25:15 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (mike maslo) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:25:15 -0500 Subject: VM fusion 4.1 final Message-ID: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> Hi list: Sorry for asking so many questions but I am about to install my other operating system on my computer and I wanted to get the recommended settings based upon my system I have. I have 4 gig of ram right now but eventually will upgrade and 500 gig hard drive. Based upon this information what would you recommend my configuration for vm fusion be for the guest computer? Thanks so much and again I apologize for so many questions. From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 17:02:01 2011 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:02:01 -0400 Subject: Question about two apps In-Reply-To: <4E7CA6CC.8030905@techno-chat.net> References: <4E7CA6CC.8030905@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: I've used both apps and think they are terrific! Heytell is completely accessible, and allows you to communicate verbally with friends who also have the app. It's kind of like a walkie-talkie system, where you send a message and the other person replies. If the app is closed, you get a message on the front of your device announcing that you have received a heytell message from, and the sender's name. There is a close button, which removes the dialogue but then you can go into the app when you are ready and the message will play. Or there is a view button, which takes you directly into the app and the message plays. To clarify, the message you've received will play when you open the app, without you having to do anything. Viz Wiz is also completely accessible. The first screen has a camera button to take a picture of the object, which can be anything from a can of beans to a shirt or a chair, or, well the list goes on and on. It then goes to a second screen with a record button, which you double tap, speak your question such as "What color is this shirt?" Double tap the screen again (don't flick or scroll just double tap). The next screen has choices of where you want to send the picture. You can send it to a web worker, to an IQ engine, email it to someone who can email back the answer, or send it to Twitter for all your friends to see and get an answer or ten from there. You can pick more than one of these with checkboxes. Pressing the send button will take you to the last screen, where you can view the answers as they arrive. Each screen has a short explanation of what you should do on that screen. Both apps are very easy to use, and give excellent results for what they are designed to do. Sure hope this helps! Go get them in the app store, they are both free! Marcy On Sep 23, 2011, at 11:33 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: Hello all. Has anyone used either Viz Wiz and/or Heytell? What do you all think of them? All comments will be greatly appreciated. Chat soon. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 17:47:22 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:47:22 -0400 Subject: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? In-Reply-To: <4BA5606F-B742-45F1-8DF1-AE64292B2E1B@tznet.com> References: <380-2201194222014460@M2W135.mail2web.com> <4BA5606F-B742-45F1-8DF1-AE64292B2E1B@tznet.com> Message-ID: <9CE168F8-024A-4851-B2C3-E483F977430D@gmail.com> Hi John, It doesn't appear that you can restore from the super duper volume, so therefore, I freed up space on one of my external drives and did a time machine backup. I'll let you know what happens. But before I go ahead with the clean lion install, I do have one question. When I do a restore from the time machine backup, can I choose what's restored? Thanks, Courtney On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:58 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Hello Courtney: > > When restoring I think you should be able to restore from the SuperDuper volume but can't say for shire. > > John > > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> As I don't have an extra hard drive to erase and back up with time machine, is there any way I can use super duper? >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 4:01 PM, gunn at tznet.com wrote: >> >>> Hello Courtney: >>> >>> You are correct, andI would suggest if you can do a TimeMachine backup and >>> after installing Lion, you'll be asked if you want to restore from a >>> TimeMachine backup. >>> >>> John Gunn >>> >>> >>> >>> Original Message: >>> ----------------- >>> From: Courtney Curran moopiecurran at gmail.com >>> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:30:46 -0400 >>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>> Subject: Re: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> Thanks for this, but won't that restore me back to SL, if I back up before >>> I clean install? The backup I have is bootable. >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney >>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> If you have a bootable back up you can restore wtih super duper. Now I >>> don't use super duper but you should be able to do a bootable back up and >>> restore everything including apps, keys, passwords, etc. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I'm planning to do a clean install of lion on my 2009 mac mini. But I'm >>> curious, how do I restore my stuff, for example, internet key codes, >>> application keys, and all my files. I have my mini backed up with Super >>> Duper. Is this even possible, especially the restoration of all the key >>> codes, so I don't have to ask for sighted help to read me the codes? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Courtney >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >>> http://mail2web.com/ . >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordon at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 18:01:56 2011 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:01:56 +0100 Subject: VM fusion 4.1 final In-Reply-To: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> References: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> Message-ID: Mike I suggest you set Windows up as 2GB, if you're running Lion, and if you can use the 64-bit version of Windows. Set the HD space for some silly value like 1TB (1024GB) and make sure the files are not fragmented, this is the default behaviour. Gordon On 24 Sep 2011, at 16:25, mike maslo wrote: Hi list: Sorry for asking so many questions but I am about to install my other operating system on my computer and I wanted to get the recommended settings based upon my system I have. I have 4 gig of ram right now but eventually will upgrade and 500 gig hard drive. Based upon this information what would you recommend my configuration for vm fusion be for the guest computer? Thanks so much and again I apologize for so many questions. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 19:04:06 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:04:06 -0400 Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? Message-ID: <21F4E074-430E-495D-B1B1-FED578CBE29D@gmail.com> Hi, I've been trying to pair my Jawbone Jambox with my mac, but it doesn't seem like they play nice, :) When I put my jambox in pairing mode, and select it with my mac, my mac goes silent. The jambox is turned on. Is there a proper way to pair it with the mac? Thanks, Courtney From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 19:09:42 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:09:42 -0700 Subject: the see more link in apple mail messages: os lion In-Reply-To: <8B0507C5-E786-41EE-90AC-965C950E9D12@mac-access.net> References: <16AE552F-92EA-4D6E-B286-C3293551A13F@mac-access.net> <56B0AAB8-F0D7-4AB6-871D-E23D81564A8D@mac-access.net> <8B0507C5-E786-41EE-90AC-965C950E9D12@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <276EDC11-7099-4934-968C-D20DBB71E939@gmail.com> In my haste I forgot to include the podcast to marks's blog. I only have the podcast url as I subscribed in itunes so copy this in to your itunes and look for the ep on how to handle modern view. I can't get some of the things to work but most of the stuff he explains works. http://feeds.feedburner.com/candleshore Take care. On Sep 23, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi James > > No, I don't think you can change the way it handles messages. We too are using the classic layout because, to be honest, I haven't exactly been on top form lately and wanted something I could just use. > > I'm going to play around with the modern layout shortly to see if it's any more usable so we'll see. I haven't ever encountered the "See More Links" in any message. > > Gordon > > On 23 Sep 2011, at 15:56, James AUSTIN wrote: > > Hi Gordon, > > Like you, I do not use the so-called "Conversation view" when viewing messages, rather "Classic" view. > > However, when I am reading messages, I have occasionally come across the "See More" link. Am I missing something? Is there a way to change the reading of messages so that it works as it did in 10.6? Thereby negating the "see more" link? > > Thank you > Best > James > On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:55, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi James >> >> I've rad in subsequent messages that this is in "Conversation" view. I hate that name actually, I wish Apple would stop doing that! They are "Threads", not "Conversations". >> >> I don't use that view, which explains why I haven't seen this behaviour. >> >> Gordon >> >> >> On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:41, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >> Hi Gordon, >> >> Sarah wants to know how she accesses the "see more" link in Mail message. >> >> TC :) >> James >> On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:35, Gordon Smith wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah >>> >>> This is double Dutch to me. Could you try again please, this time explain your issue. :) >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> On 23 Sep 2011, at 00:57, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>> Ok how in the world do I hit that see more link? I have tried vo space, clicking, jumping up and down and screaming out of frustration? Ok not that one yet but how do I access that one? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 19:10:59 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:10:59 -0700 Subject: Navigon now question. In-Reply-To: <16FD065C11AF44D69AB7B6BA0222BC89@MainComputer> References: <16FD065C11AF44D69AB7B6BA0222BC89@MainComputer> Message-ID: <2D2F715D-3E45-40D7-8691-5BF879BD1579@gmail.com> No You only can enter an address in free form. or corect address form. If you have points of interest saved in your contacts though you should be able to find them and have navigon now be able to enter in the address. Take care. On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:10 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Is it possible to use Navigon now to search for POIS? If so, how so? > > Thanks. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6489 (20110923) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 19:28:57 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:28:57 +0100 Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? In-Reply-To: <21F4E074-430E-495D-B1B1-FED578CBE29D@gmail.com> References: <21F4E074-430E-495D-B1B1-FED578CBE29D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Courtney This is easy. Use my review as a base and you'll get along fine. Lynne On 24 Sep 2011, at 19:04, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've been trying to pair my Jawbone Jambox with my mac, but it doesn't seem like they play nice, :) When I put my jambox in pairing mode, and select it with my mac, my mac goes silent. The jambox is turned on. Is there a proper way to pair it with the mac? Thanks, Courtney <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 19:30:48 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:30:48 +0100 Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? In-Reply-To: <21F4E074-430E-495D-B1B1-FED578CBE29D@gmail.com> References: <21F4E074-430E-495D-B1B1-FED578CBE29D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7641857E-A5FE-4B36-BC7F-0F23D0A213FF@mac-access.net> Courtney\ You need to use the Blue Tooth? preferences, not the sound preferences. Is that what you are doing? It sounds like you're using the sound preferences. Lynne On 24 Sep 2011, at 19:04, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I've been trying to pair my Jawbone Jambox with my mac, but it doesn't seem like they play nice, :) When I put my jambox in pairing mode, and select it with my mac, my mac goes silent. The jambox is turned on. Is there a proper way to pair it with the mac? Thanks, Courtney <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 19:35:15 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:35:15 -0700 Subject: garage gand: automating tempos Message-ID: <7250371E-59D9-459B-A536-2FD5B33BF033@gmail.com> Hello to all I have a piece I'm working on the end has a major retardando when the singing will sing "That's when you told me that i was the one." Is there a way to automate that slow down rather then trying to do it by hand? it sounds a disaster when I try lol. 'd rather it straight and then automate the slow down from I think its 50 to about 40 or so. lol! Take care all. Oh btw I never got the sound font thing figured out lol! Take care all Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 19:41:27 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:41:27 -0400 Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? References: <21F4E074-430E-495D-B1B1-FED578CBE29D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Courtney, I know it doesn't help you, but this went smoothly on my MBP under both SN and Lion. As I recall I brought my JB into pairing mode by moving the power switch to the upper most position as you must have also done. I think it worked the same way in SL, but I then went into status menus -> bluetooth -> setup bluetooth device and it immediately located my JB. I assume you're not doing anything differently -- is the Mac not finding your JB? Did you pair previously? If so perhaps you want to delete the phantom device and retry? Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Courtney Curran To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:04 PM Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? Hi, I've been trying to pair my Jawbone Jambox with my mac, but it doesn't seem like they play nice, :) When I put my jambox in pairing mode, and select it with my mac, my mac goes silent. The jambox is turned on. Is there a proper way to pair it with the mac? Thanks, Courtney <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 19:44:34 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:44:34 -0400 Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? In-Reply-To: References: <21F4E074-430E-495D-B1B1-FED578CBE29D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Thanks for this. No, I haven't paired previously, but when I choose it in the bluetooth setup assistant, and press continue, it seems to connect. After that, it seems to connect, but it isn't used as the audio device right away. Then when I tried to choose it as my audio device, my whole mac goes completely silent. I'm using lion. Thanks, Courtney On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Courtney, > > I know it doesn't help you, but this went smoothly on my MBP under both SN and Lion. > > As I recall I brought my JB into pairing mode by moving the power switch to the upper most position as you must have also done. I think it worked the same way in SL, but I then went into status menus -> bluetooth -> setup bluetooth device and it immediately located my JB. I assume you're not doing anything differently -- is the Mac not finding your JB? Did you pair previously? If so perhaps you want to delete the phantom device and retry? > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Courtney Curran > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:04 PM > Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? > > > Hi, > I've been trying to pair my Jawbone Jambox with my mac, but it doesn't seem like they play nice, :) When I put my jambox in pairing mode, and select it with my mac, my mac goes silent. The jambox is turned on. Is there a proper way to pair it with the mac? > Thanks, > Courtney > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 20:01:39 2011 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:01:39 -0400 Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? References: <21F4E074-430E-495D-B1B1-FED578CBE29D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5AD761EC3A7243BC9AE4E5D4A8149828@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi, I just tested here and what you described happens when my jb is connected to another audio source via the line-in jack. Alternatively have you paired with another device previously that is in range? From what you described it sounds as though you have paired successfully and are dealing with a conflict. HTH and Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Courtney Curran To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Pairing the jam box with the mac? Hi, Thanks for this. No, I haven't paired previously, but when I choose it in the bluetooth setup assistant, and press continue, it seems to connect. After that, it seems to connect, but it isn't used as the audio device right away. Then when I tried to choose it as my audio device, my whole mac goes completely silent. I'm using lion. Thanks, Courtney On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Courtney, > > I know it doesn't help you, but this went smoothly on my MBP under both SN and Lion. > > As I recall I brought my JB into pairing mode by moving the power switch to the upper most position as you must have also done. I think it worked the same way in SL, but I then went into status menus -> bluetooth -> setup bluetooth device and it immediately located my JB. I assume you're not doing anything differently -- is the Mac not finding your JB? Did you pair previously? If so perhaps you want to delete the phantom device and retry? > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Courtney Curran > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:04 PM > Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? > > > Hi, > I've been trying to pair my Jawbone Jambox with my mac, but it doesn't seem like they play nice, :) When I put my jambox in pairing mode, and select it with my mac, my mac goes silent. The jambox is turned on. Is there a proper way to pair it with the mac? > Thanks, > Courtney > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gunn at tznet.com Sat Sep 24 20:09:06 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:09:06 -0500 Subject: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? In-Reply-To: <9CE168F8-024A-4851-B2C3-E483F977430D@gmail.com> References: <380-2201194222014460@M2W135.mail2web.com> <4BA5606F-B742-45F1-8DF1-AE64292B2E1B@tznet.com> <9CE168F8-024A-4851-B2C3-E483F977430D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2089C5A9-9A92-4450-9BE6-8D7810399CD9@tznet.com> Hello Courtney: I don't believe you can choose what get restored. Basically the TimeMachine restores Applications ETC but not system files. One more thing I thought of, you'll have to upgrade iTunes and Safarie. Also you'll have to authorize the computer for iTunes. Good luck and sounds like you'll do fine. John On Sep 24, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi John, > It doesn't appear that you can restore from the super duper volume, so therefore, I freed up space on one of my external drives and did a time machine backup. I'll let you know what happens. But before I go ahead with the clean lion install, I do have one question. When I do a restore from the time machine backup, can I choose what's restored? > Thanks, > Courtney > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 5:58 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Hello Courtney: >> >> When restoring I think you should be able to restore from the SuperDuper volume but can't say for shire. >> >> John >> >> >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> As I don't have an extra hard drive to erase and back up with time machine, is there any way I can use super duper? >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney >>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 4:01 PM, gunn at tznet.com wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Courtney: >>>> >>>> You are correct, andI would suggest if you can do a TimeMachine backup and >>>> after installing Lion, you'll be asked if you want to restore from a >>>> TimeMachine backup. >>>> >>>> John Gunn >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Original Message: >>>> ----------------- >>>> From: Courtney Curran moopiecurran at gmail.com >>>> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:30:46 -0400 >>>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> Subject: Re: restoring my backed up materials after clean install of lion? >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Thanks for this, but won't that restore me back to SL, if I back up before >>>> I clean install? The backup I have is bootable. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Courtney >>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you have a bootable back up you can restore wtih super duper. Now I >>>> don't use super duper but you should be able to do a bootable back up and >>>> restore everything including apps, keys, passwords, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> I'm planning to do a clean install of lion on my 2009 mac mini. But I'm >>>> curious, how do I restore my stuff, for example, internet key codes, >>>> application keys, and all my files. I have my mini backed up with Super >>>> Duper. Is this even possible, especially the restoration of all the key >>>> codes, so I don't have to ask for sighted help to read me the codes? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Courtney >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >>>> http://mail2web.com/ . >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From gunn at tznet.com Sat Sep 24 20:13:18 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:13:18 -0500 Subject: VM fusion 4.1 final In-Reply-To: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> References: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <5AD5BCCA-C91F-450D-AC4E-236F8143E17C@tznet.com> Mike: If you have 4GB of ram set the ram for Windows at 3GB. Now when you update the ram to 8GB and if your OS is 64Bite, then you can update your ram to 6GB or however much you want. I of course wouldn't allocate to 8GB. smile If only using 32Bit than for the most part, Windows doesn't recognize anything over 3.3GB. Take care, John On Sep 24, 2011, at 10:25 AM, mike maslo wrote: > Hi list: > > Sorry for asking so many questions but I am about to install my other > operating system on my computer and I wanted to get the recommended settings > based upon my system I have. > > I have 4 gig of ram right now but eventually will upgrade and 500 gig hard > drive. > > Based upon this information what would you recommend my configuration for vm > fusion be for the guest computer? > > Thanks so much and again I apologize for so many questions. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 20:33:24 2011 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:33:24 -0400 Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? In-Reply-To: <5AD761EC3A7243BC9AE4E5D4A8149828@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <21F4E074-430E-495D-B1B1-FED578CBE29D@gmail.com> <5AD761EC3A7243BC9AE4E5D4A8149828@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: Hi, Yes, I've paired the jambox with my iPod touch before, so should I turn bluetooth off on that device? Nothing was in the line-in port of the jambox though. Thanks, Courtney On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi, > > I just tested here and what you described happens when my jb is connected to another audio source via the line-in jack. Alternatively have you paired with another device previously that is in range? From what you described it sounds as though you have paired successfully and are dealing with a conflict. > > HTH and Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Courtney Curran > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:44 PM > Subject: Re: Pairing the jam box with the mac? > > > Hi, > Thanks for this. No, I haven't paired previously, but when I choose it in the bluetooth setup assistant, and press continue, it seems to connect. After that, it seems to connect, but it isn't used as the audio device right away. Then when I tried to choose it as my audio device, my whole mac goes completely silent. I'm using lion. > > Thanks, > Courtney > On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Hi Courtney, >> >> I know it doesn't help you, but this went smoothly on my MBP under both SN and Lion. >> >> As I recall I brought my JB into pairing mode by moving the power switch to the upper most position as you must have also done. I think it worked the same way in SL, but I then went into status menus -> bluetooth -> setup bluetooth device and it immediately located my JB. I assume you're not doing anything differently -- is the Mac not finding your JB? Did you pair previously? If so perhaps you want to delete the phantom device and retry? >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Courtney Curran >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:04 PM >> Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? >> >> >> Hi, >> I've been trying to pair my Jawbone Jambox with my mac, but it doesn't seem like they play nice, :) When I put my jambox in pairing mode, and select it with my mac, my mac goes silent. The jambox is turned on. Is there a proper way to pair it with the mac? >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 21:28:29 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:28:29 -0700 Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? In-Reply-To: References: <21F4E074-430E-495D-B1B1-FED578CBE29D@gmail.com> <5AD761EC3A7243BC9AE4E5D4A8149828@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: Yeah. Try and turn it off on your ipod and then try and connect it again using your mac. Take care. On Sep 24, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Yes, I've paired the jambox with my iPod touch before, so should I turn bluetooth off on that device? Nothing was in the line-in port of the jambox though. > Thanks, > Courtney > On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I just tested here and what you described happens when my jb is connected to another audio source via the line-in jack. Alternatively have you paired with another device previously that is in range? From what you described it sounds as though you have paired successfully and are dealing with a conflict. >> >> HTH and Best regards. >> Geoff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Courtney Curran >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:44 PM >> Subject: Re: Pairing the jam box with the mac? >> >> >> Hi, >> Thanks for this. No, I haven't paired previously, but when I choose it in the bluetooth setup assistant, and press continue, it seems to connect. After that, it seems to connect, but it isn't used as the audio device right away. Then when I tried to choose it as my audio device, my whole mac goes completely silent. I'm using lion. >> >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >>> Hi Courtney, >>> >>> I know it doesn't help you, but this went smoothly on my MBP under both SN and Lion. >>> >>> As I recall I brought my JB into pairing mode by moving the power switch to the upper most position as you must have also done. I think it worked the same way in SL, but I then went into status menus -> bluetooth -> setup bluetooth device and it immediately located my JB. I assume you're not doing anything differently -- is the Mac not finding your JB? Did you pair previously? If so perhaps you want to delete the phantom device and retry? >>> >>> Best regards. >>> Geoff >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Courtney Curran >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:04 PM >>> Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> I've been trying to pair my Jawbone Jambox with my mac, but it doesn't seem like they play nice, :) When I put my jambox in pairing mode, and select it with my mac, my mac goes silent. The jambox is turned on. Is there a proper way to pair it with the mac? >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 21:52:57 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 21:52:57 +0100 Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? In-Reply-To: References: <21F4E074-430E-495D-B1B1-FED578CBE29D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E7F1213-337B-4103-8A57-5F13FCE58FBD@mac-access.net> Hello Courtney Would you like to write me off list and I'll try and talk you through this? Lynne On 24 Sep 2011, at 19:44, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, Thanks for this. No, I haven't paired previously, but when I choose it in the bluetooth setup assistant, and press continue, it seems to connect. After that, it seems to connect, but it isn't used as the audio device right away. Then when I tried to choose it as my audio device, my whole mac goes completely silent. I'm using lion. Thanks, Courtney On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Courtney, > > I know it doesn't help you, but this went smoothly on my MBP under both SN and Lion. > > As I recall I brought my JB into pairing mode by moving the power switch to the upper most position as you must have also done. I think it worked the same way in SL, but I then went into status menus -> bluetooth -> setup bluetooth device and it immediately located my JB. I assume you're not doing anything differently -- is the Mac not finding your JB? Did you pair previously? If so perhaps you want to delete the phantom device and retry? > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Courtney Curran > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:04 PM > Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? > > > Hi, > I've been trying to pair my Jawbone Jambox with my mac, but it doesn't seem like they play nice, :) When I put my jambox in pairing mode, and select it with my mac, my mac goes silent. The jambox is turned on. Is there a proper way to pair it with the mac? > Thanks, > Courtney > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 21:56:50 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 21:56:50 +0100 Subject: VM fusion 4.1 final In-Reply-To: <5AD5BCCA-C91F-450D-AC4E-236F8143E17C@tznet.com> References: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> <5AD5BCCA-C91F-450D-AC4E-236F8143E17C@tznet.com> Message-ID: Hello John Are you saying that, under Lion, you should set it to 3GB? I was under the impression that Lion needs a basic 2GB to run. Lynne On 24 Sep 2011, at 20:13, John Gunn wrote: Mike: If you have 4GB of ram set the ram for Windows at 3GB. Now when you update the ram to 8GB and if your OS is 64Bite, then you can update your ram to 6GB or however much you want. I of course wouldn't allocate to 8GB. smile If only using 32Bit than for the most part, Windows doesn't recognize anything over 3.3GB. From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 21:57:52 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 21:57:52 +0100 Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? In-Reply-To: References: <21F4E074-430E-495D-B1B1-FED578CBE29D@gmail.com> <5AD761EC3A7243BC9AE4E5D4A8149828@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <0E985BD1-C8FF-466F-BCE5-04F6F366E54A@mac-access.net> Courtney If you're connected to your iPod, you won't be able to use it on your Mac. Lynne On 24 Sep 2011, at 20:33, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, Yes, I've paired the jambox with my iPod touch before, so should I turn bluetooth off on that device? Nothing was in the line-in port of the jambox though. Thanks, Courtney On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi, > > I just tested here and what you described happens when my jb is connected to another audio source via the line-in jack. Alternatively have you paired with another device previously that is in range? From what you described it sounds as though you have paired successfully and are dealing with a conflict. > > HTH and Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Courtney Curran > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:44 PM > Subject: Re: Pairing the jam box with the mac? > > > Hi, > Thanks for this. No, I haven't paired previously, but when I choose it in the bluetooth setup assistant, and press continue, it seems to connect. After that, it seems to connect, but it isn't used as the audio device right away. Then when I tried to choose it as my audio device, my whole mac goes completely silent. I'm using lion. > > Thanks, > Courtney > On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Hi Courtney, >> >> I know it doesn't help you, but this went smoothly on my MBP under both SN and Lion. >> >> As I recall I brought my JB into pairing mode by moving the power switch to the upper most position as you must have also done. I think it worked the same way in SL, but I then went into status menus -> bluetooth -> setup bluetooth device and it immediately located my JB. I assume you're not doing anything differently -- is the Mac not finding your JB? Did you pair previously? If so perhaps you want to delete the phantom device and retry? >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Courtney Curran >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 2:04 PM >> Subject: Pairing the jam box with the mac? >> >> >> Hi, >> I've been trying to pair my Jawbone Jambox with my mac, but it doesn't seem like they play nice, :) When I put my jambox in pairing mode, and select it with my mac, my mac goes silent. The jambox is turned on. Is there a proper way to pair it with the mac? >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From mfurness at bell.net Sat Sep 24 23:02:10 2011 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:02:10 -0400 Subject: numbers moving down columns quickly Message-ID: Is there a key combo to move one to the end of a column, that is to where there is a blank cell? Thank you for your help! Mark I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. From gunn at tznet.com Sat Sep 24 22:40:28 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:40:28 -0500 Subject: VM fusion 4.1 final In-Reply-To: References: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> <5AD5BCCA-C91F-450D-AC4E-236F8143E17C@tznet.com> Message-ID: <50946838-0F2D-4134-AF61-E8D58779611C@tznet.com> Lynne: Actually what I meant is if running Windows 32 Bit the OS doesn't recognize anything over 3.3. So yes, you can set the RAM to 2GB but Lion isn't the restriction. Hope that Makes sense. smile. On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello John > > Are you saying that, under Lion, you should set it to 3GB? I was under the impression that Lion needs a basic 2GB to run. > > Lynne > > On 24 Sep 2011, at 20:13, John Gunn wrote: > > Mike: > > If you have 4GB of ram set the ram for Windows at 3GB. > > Now when you update the ram to 8GB and if your OS is 64Bite, then you can update your ram to 6GB or however much you want. I of course wouldn't allocate to 8GB. smile > > If only using 32Bit than for the most part, Windows doesn't recognize anything over 3.3GB. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 23:14:27 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 23:14:27 +0100 Subject: VM fusion 4.1 final In-Reply-To: <50946838-0F2D-4134-AF61-E8D58779611C@tznet.com> References: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> <5AD5BCCA-C91F-450D-AC4E-236F8143E17C@tznet.com> <50946838-0F2D-4134-AF61-E8D58779611C@tznet.com> Message-ID: Hello John No, you said: "If you have 4GB of ram set the ram for Windows at 3GB. Was it a typo? Lynne On 24 Sep 2011, at 22:40, John Gunn wrote: Lynne: Actually what I meant is if running Windows 32 Bit the OS doesn't recognize anything over 3.3. So yes, you can set the RAM to 2GB but Lion isn't the restriction. Hope that Makes sense. smile. On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello John > > Are you saying that, under Lion, you should set it to 3GB? I was under the impression that Lion needs a basic 2GB to run. > > Lynne > > On 24 Sep 2011, at 20:13, John Gunn wrote: > > Mike: > > If you have 4GB of ram set the ram for Windows at 3GB. > > Now when you update the ram to 8GB and if your OS is 64Bite, then you can update your ram to 6GB or however much you want. I of course wouldn't allocate to 8GB. smile > > If only using 32Bit than for the most part, Windows doesn't recognize anything over 3.3GB. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From sean.waiting at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 23:18:07 2011 From: sean.waiting at gmail.com (Sean Waiting) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 22:18:07 -0000 Subject: mac help please Message-ID: Dear All how do you get into the programmes using short cut keys please. all the best from sean waiting. From support at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 23:22:40 2011 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon & Lynne) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 23:22:40 +0100 Subject: Trouble In Paradise; Please Read! Message-ID: <331DF46E-AFFB-428F-96AB-1726C376FBFE@mac-access.net> Hello everybody You may have noticed our server was down for about an hour earlier this evening. We have seen the return of an old problem which has been bugging us for some time now and not even Apple's engineers know what's causing it. I won't go into all of the technical details now. But what I will tell you is that Gordon has taken the decision that, before all this complex database stuff dies totally, we need to port as much as we possibly can over to a different E-Mail server. We have actually been planning to do this anyway, but the return of our old enemy has caused us to move this up to the very top of the priority list. We will handle everything from here. You don't need to re-subscribe. But when the change is complete, instead of having the subscriber pages at *.tft-bbs.co.uk, they will be located at mail.mac-access.net which we think makes more sense anyway. Please understand that this is very large undertaking as it involves the migration of a lot of complex databases. However, the current configuration will remain intact and functional (we hope) until the new one is ready to go prime time. When it's all done, you'll still find the list post address exactly where it is now. But your options pages will have moved to mail.mac-access.net. I'll tell you more about this later, as it really is late here just now and I've forbidden Gordon to start working tonight. Lynne From lynne at mac-access.net Sat Sep 24 23:31:33 2011 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 23:31:33 +0100 Subject: mac help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <109584E7-96BB-456E-87E2-10530721E9F6@mac-access.net> Hello Sean May I give you a little word of advice? Don't expect OSX to function like Windows. Forget that you ever used Window, and then you'll find the new environment much easier to handle during the learning process. Windows isn't like OSX, and visa versa. There are ways of doing things; but you can't just expect the same functionality cross OS. Please please don't think I'm trying to in any way patronise you because I'm not. I'm trying to help you adjust. However, what you want to do can be done, by adding a programme to the Doc. To do this you need to: 1. Run your program from the Applications folder. 2. Open the Doc, by pressing either Control+F3 or VoiceOver+D. (VoiceOver = the Control & option keys together). 3. Locate the name of your application; you can type the first few letters of its name to jump to it quickly. 4. Press VoiceOver+Shift+M to bring up the context menu for the Doc. 5. Cursor down until you hear "Options submenu". Then cursor right. You'll then land on "Keep application in the dock". Hit enter and you're done. Now, you can open the dock using either Control+F3 or VoiceOver+D and type in the first letter or two of your application. I hope this helps in some way. Lynne On 25 Sep 2001, at 05:03, Sean Waiting wrote: Dear All how do you get into the programmes using short cut keys please. all the best from sean waiting. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Sep 24 23:45:26 2011 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:45:26 -0400 Subject: Remotely logging into a Mac via SSH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08E112AC-637E-423D-86CE-FEDFB1E87BFA@softcon.com> When you launch an application via terminal, (whether in ssh or not) the program will execute on the machine that contains the terminal session. Therefore, launching text edit using the open command via terminal will launch text edit on the remote host you're logged in through. Since the gui part of the osx does not use the same input/ output methods as terminal does, there is no way to pipe that output to the remote machine using standard tools. Using ssh as a go-between, it is possible to execute programs on remote machines and have the output show up on your local terminal, but this takes a bit of trickory with both ssh and i/o redirection. This of course doesn't work with gui apps though (more the pity) since it would be an excellent way to handle remote administrations. I don't know why apple doesn't build something like XServer/Xterm, and provide a way for aqua to send it's graphical info across the network to another machine, but until they do, any solutions we come up with are just going to be (as you say) clunky work-arounds. There's no technical reason why this couldn't be done, they already allow apple script functions to be run cross machines, so building something to interpret and control gui apps shouldn't really be all that big of a stretch, and I know it's something that has been frequently requested, and not just by us, lots of system admins would like the ability too. Something like this can be done using the xgrid technology, but that treats the machines as a single one, just with multiple processors, but still, no reason it can't be done, guess apple just doesn't consider it a priority at the moment. From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Sep 25 00:04:36 2011 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 00:04:36 +0100 Subject: mac help please? Message-ID: <67B738B3-6C03-4F5D-9CE1-6E1610C4C1D0@mac-access.net> Hi Sean, There are a number of ways to do this. 1. From the Dock. If you've not changed anything since getting your Mac, all of the most common apps on the mac will be in the Doc, which is a area of the screen populated by icon that represent applications. It's analogous to the Start Menu/Task Bar/System Tray. You can get to it in two ways; either by pressing VO keys *Control and Option held down) with D or by pressing Control + F3. The latter is an OS X shortcut but both do the same thing.? You can then use your arrow keys to move along the Dock. Press Enter/Return to open the app. You'll also notice that when an app opens, an icon representing it will appear in the Dock. It will stay there while the app is running and disappear when you quit it. There are ways to keep it in the Dock if it is something you use frequently, if that is your preferred way of accessing apps, but that's for another post. 2. Spotlight Spotlight is an integrated search tool within OS X. It is very powerful, and also serves as an app launcher. I think the default shortcut for opening the Spotlight search field is Control + Space. I've changed mine to Command+Space. You can then type the name of the app or a few letters of the app. Spotlight is context-sensitive and so will try to goes. For example, "Saf" will give you Safari. You can then arrow up and down the available choices, pressing Enter to select your choice. 3. The Applications folder In Finder, press Command+Shift+A This will bring up a window with all of your currently installed applications. Press Command+O to open your choice. That should eli you on your way for now, but remember also that you've got the VoiceOver help Available to you. Pressing VO keys + H will bring this menu up. You can also access VO help by pressing VO+Question Mark, but for now I think the menu will suit you just fine. Please feel free to write me off-list if you have questions about anything I've written here or alternatively, to contact me on Skype. My details will be at the end of this message. Best wishes TC :) James E-Mail: james.austin at mac-access.net SKYPE: saulky1984 - if you want to add me to Skpe, please could you tell me who you are and where you obtained my details. I will not add anyone who leaves the generic message in tact From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Sep 25 01:00:54 2011 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:00:54 -0400 Subject: VMWare Fusion 4.01 In-Reply-To: <543809BA-C3AA-4260-BB23-FDBA7C2774A3@hopewell.org.uk> References: <753677CE-620D-4535-8538-BE3494C19BD5@mac-access.net><41984CFF-296D-479D-B327-30890F90FC4C@charter.net><029C0035-B53B-439E-AD8C-A648D1D6B1AE@mac-access.net> <0EFE0BA7-2E56-4F43-906A-B587241746C0@blueyonder.co.uk> <8635BEB5E08143F6A77052976688D64D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <81EC2448-28F9-4367-9C9B-A6C1A795E7DF@mac-access.net> <5F21F3EB-A575-489D-A878-5D91D790B87E@Mac-Access.net> <399BADD3-7239-45F9-BD9D-23D8BCC69223@mac-access.net> <001301cc7988$8169a7c0$843cf740$@swbell.net> <543809BA-C3AA-4260-BB23-FDBA7C2774A3@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Paul, Can you clarify for me, are you running Fusion 4.1 with Jaws? If so Can you let me know the steps you took to set up your virtual machine? did you create a new one or did you successfully update a old one? I'm very interested as I'm having trouble getting this done on my end. Eric Caron On Sep 23, 2011, at 5:08 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > HI Mike, > I am using Fusion 4.0.1 on Mac OS 10.7.1 on an iMac with only 4GB of RAM. It works fine for me. > Paul Hopewell > On 23 Sep 2011, at 01:34, mike maslo wrote: > >> Would the mac run with vm fusion with 4 gb of ram? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron >> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:02 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 4.01 >> >> Hi Lynne and others, >> >> Copy and paste is working for me now in VM Fusion 3. I was getting >> my fingers tangled and using windows commands on my Mac! So much to keep >> track of and I have muscle memory after more then 25 years of PC work! >> >> But, I can now use the copy command on either OS move to the other OS and >> use the paste command. this is very useful. >> >> I bet it works in VM 4. But, I have not been able to get VM 4 to work well >> for me yet. >> >> eric Caron >> >> On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> >>> Hello Eric >>> >>> I think this still works; although I'm not 100%. I need to isolate our >> machine anyway so I'll try and let you know. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 21 Sep 2011, at 00:04, Eric Caron wrote: >>> >>> Hi Lynne and others, >>> >>> Below Lynne you mention that you can copy text onto the clip board >> while in Windows then paste on the mac side. I have my machine isolated. >> Is there still a way to do this? >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Geoff >>>> >>>> On 17 Sep 2011, at 20:44, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>>> >>>> . 1. Since Windows is running as a guest under Lion, can voiceOver do >> anything on the Windows side, or will I need to install my Screen reader? >>>> >>>> No. VoiceOver can't be used to navigate, operate or interact with >> anything Windows. >>>> >>>> . 2. Assuming that I would install a Screen reader on my MBP, would it be >> possible (perhaps with the aid of an Applescript) to cut text from a Windows >> app and paste it into an edit field on the Mac side? >>>> >>>> Yes. The clipboard is interchangeable natively. >>>> >>>> . What motivates the second question is that I often need to copy large >> sections of web pages, and by the time I mark two hot spots, turn off my >> trackpad commander, disable cursor tracking, click the two hot spots, bring >> up the context menu, discover which features I forgot to turn off, go >> through it all a second time, bring up a context menu, copy the text, and >> turn on my trackpad commander and cursor tracking again I may as well have >> booted my xp machine and will still save time accomplishing the task. If I >> could copy segments of code on a web page into xCode without having to use >> different machines and dropbox it might make this product worth while. >>>> >>>> Then you will encounter no problems in this regard. >>>> >>>> Lynne >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Sun Sep 25 01:19:59 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:19:59 -0500 Subject: VM fusion 4.1 final In-Reply-To: <5AD5BCCA-C91F-450D-AC4E-236F8143E17C@tznet.com> References: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> <5AD5BCCA-C91F-450D-AC4E-236F8143E17C@tznet.com> Message-ID: John: i saw the message to late and allocated windows to 2 gig of ram. Is there a way of adjusting it or am I stuck with it? I see you needed sighted help through parts of this. On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:13 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Mike: > > If you have 4GB of ram set the ram for Windows at 3GB. > > Now when you update the ram to 8GB and if your OS is 64Bite, then you can update your ram to 6GB or however much you want. I of course wouldn't allocate to 8GB. smile > > If only using 32Bit than for the most part, Windows doesn't recognize anything over 3.3GB. > > Take care, > > John > > > On Sep 24, 2011, at 10:25 AM, mike maslo wrote: > >> Hi list: >> >> Sorry for asking so many questions but I am about to install my other >> operating system on my computer and I wanted to get the recommended settings >> based upon my system I have. >> >> I have 4 gig of ram right now but eventually will upgrade and 500 gig hard >> drive. >> >> Based upon this information what would you recommend my configuration for vm >> fusion be for the guest computer? >> >> Thanks so much and again I apologize for so many questions. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Sun Sep 25 02:34:02 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:34:02 -0500 Subject: VM fusion 4.1 final In-Reply-To: References: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> <5AD5BCCA-C91F-450D-AC4E-236F8143E17C@tznet.com> <50946838-0F2D-4134-AF61-E8D58779611C@tznet.com> Message-ID: <58A9F1C3-3DBE-47B3-8FA9-44E2E312775B@tznet.com> What I mean is in the VmWare RAM allocation set to 3GB. On Sep 24, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello John > > No, you said: > "If you have 4GB of ram set the ram for Windows at 3GB. > Was it a typo? > > Lynne > > On 24 Sep 2011, at 22:40, John Gunn wrote: > > Lynne: > > Actually what I meant is if running Windows 32 Bit the OS doesn't recognize anything over 3.3. > > So yes, you can set the RAM to 2GB but Lion isn't the restriction. > > Hope that Makes sense. smile. > > > On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > >> Hello John >> >> Are you saying that, under Lion, you should set it to 3GB? I was under the impression that Lion needs a basic 2GB to run. >> >> Lynne >> >> On 24 Sep 2011, at 20:13, John Gunn wrote: >> >> Mike: >> >> If you have 4GB of ram set the ram for Windows at 3GB. >> >> Now when you update the ram to 8GB and if your OS is 64Bite, then you can update your ram to 6GB or however much you want. I of course wouldn't allocate to 8GB. smile >> >> If only using 32Bit than for the most part, Windows doesn't recognize anything over 3.3GB. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From gunn at tznet.com Sun Sep 25 02:40:53 2011 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:40:53 -0500 Subject: VM fusion 4.1 final In-Reply-To: References: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> <5AD5BCCA-C91F-450D-AC4E-236F8143E17C@tznet.com> Message-ID: Mike: You can adjust the ram. Make sure the Machine is stopped. Next if you hit command-E this will bring up settings. Or another way, hit command-shift-l which will bring the Library. VO right, interact and when the Machine is highlighted, do VO-Shift-M and arrow down to settings. Interact with the toolbar, show all and you'll see the area where you can adjust RAM. Take care, John On Sep 24, 2011, at 7:19 PM, michael maslo wrote: > John: > > i saw the message to late and allocated windows to 2 gig of ram. > > Is there a way of adjusting it or am I stuck with it? > I see you needed sighted help through parts of this. > > On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:13 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Mike: >> >> If you have 4GB of ram set the ram for Windows at 3GB. >> >> Now when you update the ram to 8GB and if your OS is 64Bite, then you can update your ram to 6GB or however much you want. I of course wouldn't allocate to 8GB. smile >> >> If only using 32Bit than for the most part, Windows doesn't recognize anything over 3.3GB. >> >> Take care, >> >> John >> >> >> On Sep 24, 2011, at 10:25 AM, mike maslo wrote: >> >>> Hi list: >>> >>> Sorry for asking so many questions but I am about to install my other >>> operating system on my computer and I wanted to get the recommended settings >>> based upon my system I have. >>> >>> I have 4 gig of ram right now but eventually will upgrade and 500 gig hard >>> drive. >>> >>> Based upon this information what would you recommend my configuration for vm >>> fusion be for the guest computer? >>> >>> Thanks so much and again I apologize for so many questions. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From n0oxy at charter.net Sun Sep 25 03:11:26 2011 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 21:11:26 -0500 Subject: VM fusion 4.1 final In-Reply-To: References: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> <5AD5BCCA-C91F-450D-AC4E-236F8143E17C@tznet.com> Message-ID: <5571297C-93AB-4F87-82D3-8744B581C498@charter.net> Generally, I allow windows to have half of my memory. This mac mini has 2 gb of ram, so I let fusion have 1 gb, this is a bit slow with windows 7 but it was work. I have another mini that has 4 gb of memory, for that one, windows has 2 GB On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello John > > Are you saying that, under Lion, you should set it to 3GB? I was under the impression that Lion needs a basic 2GB to run. > > Lynne > > On 24 Sep 2011, at 20:13, John Gunn wrote: > > Mike: > > If you have 4GB of ram set the ram for Windows at 3GB. > > Now when you update the ram to 8GB and if your OS is 64Bite, then you can update your ram to 6GB or however much you want. I of course wouldn't allocate to 8GB. smile > > If only using 32Bit than for the most part, Windows doesn't recognize anything over 3.3GB. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Sun Sep 25 03:15:33 2011 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (Mike Maslo) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 21:15:33 -0500 Subject: VM fusion 4.1 final In-Reply-To: References: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> <5AD5BCCA-C91F-450D-AC4E-236F8143E17C@tznet.com> Message-ID: <5D9BE595-217A-455F-9D19-2DBAC958B6C9@swbell.net> Two last questions please? 1. Should it be on full page? Reason I ask is that vo was still running and not sure why? 2. Is there a shortcut key to go between Mac and the virtual machine? Thanks so much for the help. Mike Maslo Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2011, at 8:40 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Mike: > > You can adjust the ram. > > Make sure the Machine is stopped. Next if you hit command-E this will bring up settings. > > Or another way, hit command-shift-l which will bring the Library. VO right, interact and when the Machine is highlighted, do VO-Shift-M and arrow down to settings. > > Interact with the toolbar, show all and you'll see the area where you can adjust RAM. > > Take care, > > John > > > On Sep 24, 2011, at 7:19 PM, michael maslo wrote: > >> John: >> >> i saw the message to late and allocated windows to 2 gig of ram. >> >> Is there a way of adjusting it or am I stuck with it? >> I see you needed sighted help through parts of this. >> >> On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:13 PM, John Gunn wrote: >> >>> Mike: >>> >>> If you have 4GB of ram set the ram for Windows at 3GB. >>> >>> Now when you update the ram to 8GB and if your OS is 64Bite, then you can update your ram to 6GB or however much you want. I of course wouldn't allocate to 8GB. smile >>> >>> If only using 32Bit than for the most part, Windows doesn't recognize anything over 3.3GB. >>> >>> Take care, >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> On Sep 24, 2011, at 10:25 AM, mike maslo wrote: >>> >>>> Hi list: >>>> >>>> Sorry for asking so many questions but I am about to install my other >>>> operating system on my computer and I wanted to get the recommended settings >>>> based upon my system I have. >>>> >>>> I have 4 gig of ram right now but eventually will upgrade and 500 gig hard >>>> drive. >>>> >>>> Based upon this information what would you recommend my configuration for vm >>>> fusion be for the guest computer? >>>> >>>> Thanks so much and again I apologize for so many questions. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Sep 25 03:44:40 2011 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:44:40 -0700 Subject: VM fusion 4.1 final In-Reply-To: <5D9BE595-217A-455F-9D19-2DBAC958B6C9@swbell.net> References: <000f01cc7ace$290273e0$7b075ba0$@swbell.net> <5AD5BCCA-C91F-450D-AC4E-236F8143E17C@tznet.com> <5D9BE595-217A-455F-9D19-2DBAC958B6C9@swbell.net> Message-ID: <92A8926F-285B-430A-BAED-34F3A8170613@gmail.com> Ther's a shgortcut. it's cmd g to go to the vm and cmd and control hit together to go back to the mac. You need to turn off vo if yo want the best experience. I've found that out anyway. On Sep 24, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Mike Maslo wrote: > Two last questions please? > > 1. Should it be on full page? Reason I ask is that vo was still running and not sure why? > > 2. Is there a shortcut key to go between Mac and the virtual machine? > > Thanks so much for the help. > > > Mike Maslo > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 24, 2011, at 8:40 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Mike: >> >> You can adjust the ram. >> >> Make sure the Machine is stopped. Next if you hit command-E this will bring up settings. >> >> Or another way, hit command-shift-l which will bring the Library. VO right, interact and when the Machine is highlighted, do VO-Shift-M and arrow down to settings. >> >> Interact with the toolbar, show all and you'll see the area where you can adjust RAM. >> >> Take care, >> >> John >> >> >> On Sep 24, 2011, at 7:19 PM, michael maslo wrote: >> >>> John: >>> >>> i saw the message to late and allocated windows to 2 gig of ram. >>> >>> Is there a way of adjusting it or am I stuck with it? >>> I see you needed sighted help through parts of this. >>> >>> On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:13 PM, John Gunn wrote: >>> >>>> Mike: >>>> >>>> If you have 4GB of ram set the ram for Windows at 3GB. >>>> >>>> Now when you update the ram to 8GB and if your OS is 64Bite, then you can update your ram to 6GB or however much you want. I of course wouldn't allocate to 8GB. smile >>>> >>>> If only using 32Bit than for the most part, Windows doesn't recognize anything over 3.3GB. >>>> >>>> Take care, >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 24, 2011, at 10:25 AM, mike maslo wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi list: >>>>> >>>>> Sorry for asking so many questions but I am about to install my other >>>>> operating system on my computer and I wanted to get the recommended settings >>>>> based upon my system I have. >>>>> >>>>> I have 4 gig of ram right now but eventually will upgrade and 500 gig hard >>>>> drive. >>>>> >>>>>