From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Wed Feb 1 01:04:34 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:04:34 -0500 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome Message-ID: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> Hello listers, I am a enthusiastic List Recorder user. I've been gathering personal recommendations for the developer concerning improvements, fixes, and desired new features. I'm wondering if other List Recorder users would be willing to share such thoughts with me. How would you like to see this app improved? Here are some of my current favorite desired improvements Modest suggestions: I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. I would like moved items to be automatically unchecked once they are moved I would like to be placed on the first item of a list when I move to a list Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization I would like a option for a different sound for signaling the start of a recording. A clear click or pop would be just fine. Big suggestions: I would like to take written notes while I'm recording and later be able to review my written notes and if desired have the recording play back where I was when I made the note. I would like the option for a very fast quick record even when List recorder is in the background. For example I could be on a call and shake the phone and make a recording and have it be waiting in list recorder when I go back to the app. I would like the option to use the due date area to have my list recorder item become a calendar event Or, perhaps List Recorder items that come due could show up in notifications. I would like to be able to back up all my items onto the computer easily and also restore them back to the phone. I realize part of this is all ready available, as we can back up to a computer. I would like to be able to import a recording to make part of a list. For that matter it might be good to be able to import text as well. fixes: List recorder should return to the behavior broken in iOS5 where recording continues after the phone locks. Currently it stops recording. Thank you for any suggestions big or small. Currently I use many devices to meet my work needs, Victor Reader, Olympus recorder, Milestone 312, and if I could only have one device I'd pick my iPhone with List Recorder. I have done a few rustic podcasts on using List Recorder version 2.2. I'm no professional. However, I'm told they will be eventually made available at sixth mode.com The developer truly listens to and acts on suggestions. please share yours with me. I'd love to keep this app discussion on list but if people would rather contact me off list that is fine. eric Caron From opensesame at me.com Wed Feb 1 03:43:10 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:43:10 -0500 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Hello Eric, Thanks for taking the time to do this. I was hoping to switch from ClearRecord to List Recorder for recording my class lectures this semester, but the lock screen issue bit me in my first class, causing me to unknowingly not record the entire class, so I haven't touched List Recorder since then. I like the current feature set and the suggestions you mentioned, but for me the app is currently not an option because of the lock screen bug. Cheers, Bryan On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hello listers, > > I am a enthusiastic List Recorder user. I've been gathering personal recommendations for the developer concerning improvements, fixes, and desired new features. I'm wondering if other List Recorder users would be willing to share such thoughts with me. > > How would you like to see this app improved? > > > Here are some of my current favorite desired improvements > > Modest suggestions: > > I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. > I would like moved items to be automatically unchecked once they are moved > I would like to be placed on the first item of a list when I move to a list > Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization > I would like a option for a different sound for signaling the start of a recording. A clear click or pop would be just fine. > > Big suggestions: > > I would like to take written notes while I'm recording and later be able to review my written notes and if desired have the recording play back where I was when I made the note. > > I would like the option for a very fast quick record even when List recorder is in the background. For example I could be on a call and shake the phone and make a recording and have it be waiting in list recorder when I go back to the app. > > > I would like the option to use the due date area to have my list recorder item become a calendar event > > Or, perhaps List Recorder items that come due could show up in notifications. > I would like to be able to back up all my items onto the computer easily and also restore them back to the phone. I realize part of this is all ready available, as we can back up to a computer. > > I would like to be able to import a recording to make part of a list. > For that matter it might be good to be able to import text as well. > > fixes: > > List recorder should return to the behavior broken in iOS5 where recording continues after the phone locks. Currently it stops recording. > > Thank you for any suggestions big or small. > > Currently I use many devices to meet my work needs, Victor Reader, Olympus recorder, Milestone 312, and if I could only have one device I'd pick my iPhone with List Recorder. > > I have done a few rustic podcasts on using List Recorder version 2.2. I'm no professional. However, I'm told they will be eventually made available at sixth mode.com > > The developer truly listens to and acts on suggestions. please share yours with me. I'd love to keep this app discussion on list but if people would rather contact me off list that is fine. > > > eric Caron > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 03:45:40 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:45:40 -0800 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> the shake when i n a call aint going to happen. The reason? apple does not let you record or play anything in a call. but I do like the rest of your suggestions. On Jan 31, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello Eric, > > Thanks for taking the time to do this. I was hoping to switch from ClearRecord to List Recorder for recording my class lectures this semester, but the lock screen issue bit me in my first class, causing me to unknowingly not record the entire class, so I haven't touched List Recorder since then. > > I like the current feature set and the suggestions you mentioned, but for me the app is currently not an option because of the lock screen bug. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> Hello listers, >> >> I am a enthusiastic List Recorder user. I've been gathering personal recommendations for the developer concerning improvements, fixes, and desired new features. I'm wondering if other List Recorder users would be willing to share such thoughts with me. >> >> How would you like to see this app improved? >> >> >> Here are some of my current favorite desired improvements >> >> Modest suggestions: >> >> I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. >> I would like moved items to be automatically unchecked once they are moved >> I would like to be placed on the first item of a list when I move to a list >> Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization >> I would like a option for a different sound for signaling the start of a recording. A clear click or pop would be just fine. >> >> Big suggestions: >> >> I would like to take written notes while I'm recording and later be able to review my written notes and if desired have the recording play back where I was when I made the note. >> >> I would like the option for a very fast quick record even when List recorder is in the background. For example I could be on a call and shake the phone and make a recording and have it be waiting in list recorder when I go back to the app. >> >> >> I would like the option to use the due date area to have my list recorder item become a calendar event >> >> Or, perhaps List Recorder items that come due could show up in notifications. >> I would like to be able to back up all my items onto the computer easily and also restore them back to the phone. I realize part of this is all ready available, as we can back up to a computer. >> >> I would like to be able to import a recording to make part of a list. >> For that matter it might be good to be able to import text as well. >> >> fixes: >> >> List recorder should return to the behavior broken in iOS5 where recording continues after the phone locks. Currently it stops recording. >> >> Thank you for any suggestions big or small. >> >> Currently I use many devices to meet my work needs, Victor Reader, Olympus recorder, Milestone 312, and if I could only have one device I'd pick my iPhone with List Recorder. >> >> I have done a few rustic podcasts on using List Recorder version 2.2. I'm no professional. However, I'm told they will be eventually made available at sixth mode.com >> >> The developer truly listens to and acts on suggestions. please share yours with me. I'd love to keep this app discussion on list but if people would rather contact me off list that is fine. >> >> >> eric Caron >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Wed Feb 1 04:32:41 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:32:41 -0800 Subject: Help with ical on my mac In-Reply-To: <494107C7-7270-4D34-9F97-FFAE754776A2@mac-access.net> References: <5270085312209134367@unknownmsgid> <494107C7-7270-4D34-9F97-FFAE754776A2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Will ical tell you a few days in advance about an event? How do you ask it to send to email? Thanks. Lovette On 2012-01-31, at 10:42 AM, John Panarese wrote: > To be honest, iCal is one of those applications that some folks find difficult on the surface, but it really is not once you use it. > > Command-n will create a new event. You give the event a title and hit enter. Then, next to the title, there is an event scroll area you need to interact with. This is where you will setup specifics about the event, such as the date, time, alarms, invitees, etc. You just use the VO keys and right or left arrows to navigate the options and you, in the cases of setting the date and times, interact with the slider to move them. > > To search for an event by date, shift-command-t will enable you to do this. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:05 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > >> I sent an email before about getting help on ical and I don't know if >> it ggot through to the list. So I thought I would send another email. >> I need someone to tell me how to add calandar events on different days >> and how to move to an event? Also anything else that I need to know >> about ical. >> I'm using a Mac book pro. >> >> Thanks >> Margaret >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 05:46:11 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:46:11 -0800 Subject: Help with ical on my mac In-Reply-To: References: <5270085312209134367@unknownmsgid> <494107C7-7270-4D34-9F97-FFAE754776A2@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <91DD1ABF-2D3E-4596-A16B-3D17ED5B991E@gmail.com> You ask it to send you an email in the alerts section but you canot choose the email. it will send to your default one by default. I dunno if there is a way to change this though. On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > Will ical tell you a few days in advance about an event? How do you ask it to send to email? > Thanks. > Lovette > > On 2012-01-31, at 10:42 AM, John Panarese wrote: > >> To be honest, iCal is one of those applications that some folks find difficult on the surface, but it really is not once you use it. >> >> Command-n will create a new event. You give the event a title and hit enter. Then, next to the title, there is an event scroll area you need to interact with. This is where you will setup specifics about the event, such as the date, time, alarms, invitees, etc. You just use the VO keys and right or left arrows to navigate the options and you, in the cases of setting the date and times, interact with the slider to move them. >> >> To search for an event by date, shift-command-t will enable you to do this. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:05 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: >> >>> I sent an email before about getting help on ical and I don't know if >>> it ggot through to the list. So I thought I would send another email. >>> I need someone to tell me how to add calandar events on different days >>> and how to move to an event? Also anything else that I need to know >>> about ical. >>> I'm using a Mac book pro. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Margaret >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 06:22:40 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:22:40 -0800 Subject: ftp in mac osx lion, having trouble Message-ID: Ok. I have a user who is trying to upload to my ftp server I have going on lion. I have the user account created and they can log in. the trouble comes when they want to upload to a sub folder. I have the permission for everyone set to write only which should work. as I don't want them deleting files by accident. they get a permission denied even then so what's up? I'd give you the address but it's for a project. thanks all. From 1smartdog at cox.net Wed Feb 1 06:44:51 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 00:44:51 -0600 Subject: Help with Bookport software on my Mac Message-ID: Can anyone tell me how to change the source folder in Book Transfer for the Mac? I'm trying to download a .zip file from NLS books onto my Bookport. No problems on my PC. TIA Karen From mabuhay94 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 07:20:28 2012 From: mabuhay94 at gmail.com (Daniela Rubio) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 08:20:28 +0100 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> Message-ID: List recorder is a great App. When we are able to append more to an existing file and the screen lock bug is fixed, I will use it much more! And, by the way, have you thought in translating in to other languages? You could have much more users who speak spanish. If you are interested, just get back to me. Cheers! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 01/02/2012, a las 04:45, Sarah Alawami escribi?: > the shake when i n a call aint going to happen. The reason? apple does not let you record or play anything in a call. but I do like the rest of your suggestions. > On Jan 31, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Hello Eric, >> >> Thanks for taking the time to do this. I was hoping to switch from ClearRecord to List Recorder for recording my class lectures this semester, but the lock screen issue bit me in my first class, causing me to unknowingly not record the entire class, so I haven't touched List Recorder since then. >> >> I like the current feature set and the suggestions you mentioned, but for me the app is currently not an option because of the lock screen bug. >> >> Cheers, >> Bryan >> >> On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >> >>> Hello listers, >>> >>> I am a enthusiastic List Recorder user. I've been gathering personal recommendations for the developer concerning improvements, fixes, and desired new features. I'm wondering if other List Recorder users would be willing to share such thoughts with me. >>> >>> How would you like to see this app improved? >>> >>> >>> Here are some of my current favorite desired improvements >>> >>> Modest suggestions: >>> >>> I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. >>> I would like moved items to be automatically unchecked once they are moved >>> I would like to be placed on the first item of a list when I move to a list >>> Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization >>> I would like a option for a different sound for signaling the start of a recording. A clear click or pop would be just fine. >>> >>> Big suggestions: >>> >>> I would like to take written notes while I'm recording and later be able to review my written notes and if desired have the recording play back where I was when I made the note. >>> >>> I would like the option for a very fast quick record even when List recorder is in the background. For example I could be on a call and shake the phone and make a recording and have it be waiting in list recorder when I go back to the app. >>> >>> >>> I would like the option to use the due date area to have my list recorder item become a calendar event >>> >>> Or, perhaps List Recorder items that come due could show up in notifications. >>> I would like to be able to back up all my items onto the computer easily and also restore them back to the phone. I realize part of this is all ready available, as we can back up to a computer. >>> >>> I would like to be able to import a recording to make part of a list. >>> For that matter it might be good to be able to import text as well. >>> >>> fixes: >>> >>> List recorder should return to the behavior broken in iOS5 where recording continues after the phone locks. Currently it stops recording. >>> >>> Thank you for any suggestions big or small. >>> >>> Currently I use many devices to meet my work needs, Victor Reader, Olympus recorder, Milestone 312, and if I could only have one device I'd pick my iPhone with List Recorder. >>> >>> I have done a few rustic podcasts on using List Recorder version 2.2. I'm no professional. However, I'm told they will be eventually made available at sixth mode.com >>> >>> The developer truly listens to and acts on suggestions. please share yours with me. I'd love to keep this app discussion on list but if people would rather contact me off list that is fine. >>> >>> >>> eric Caron >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Wed Feb 1 08:18:25 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:18:25 +0100 Subject: Is there a good, Accessible alternative to the Find My Friends App here in Europe? Message-ID: <26B04BEB-4348-4F2A-96C2-A1927201C8D1@busboom.at> Hello everyone, Yesterday, I learned about an app from Geoff Waaler, and I wanted to install it on my iPhone. The app to which I am referring is called "Find My Friends." When I went to the link that Geoff provided, I was told that I couldn't download it because I was not authorized to download things from the US App Store. I then went into the Austrian App Store directly from my iPhone and did a search for the App. One result came up and it was a gratis App called "Find My Friends and I" from a company calledFastWhere. Is anyone familiar with this program, and can I use it to know the whereabouts of friends using the "Find My Friends" App from the US iStore? If not, does anyone know of a program that is equivalent and would exchange information with "Find My Friends?" If I am not mistaken, "Find My Friends" is an App developed by Apple. If this is the case, then I am wondering why it is not available here in Austria. Finally, I will be going to the States later this month for an extended visit. While I am physically present in the States, will I be able to purchase Apps from the US iStore? Many thanks, Mike From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Wed Feb 1 11:30:34 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 11:30:34 +0000 Subject: How to tell if iPhone is locked to a specific network Message-ID: Hello, I have an iPhone 3GS running the latest IOS 5 software. Short of changing my SIM card is there any way to know whether the ipHone is locked to a specific mobile network or not? Can I determine this from the iPhone settings in some way? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Wed Feb 1 13:19:47 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:19:47 +0000 Subject: How to tell if iPhone is locked to a specific network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F293BF3.1010704@techno-chat.net> Interesting this one, the only way I know of is to remember where you got the iPhone from. If it's from a carrier chances are it will be locked. If it's from Apple or some other reseller then chances are unlocked but depending on retailer it could be locked as well. On 01/02/2012 11:30, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I have an iPhone 3GS running the latest IOS 5 software. Short of changing my SIM card is there any way to know whether the ipHone is locked to a specific mobile network or not? Can I determine this from the iPhone settings in some way? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 14:05:09 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 06:05:09 -0800 Subject: How to tell if iPhone is locked to a specific network In-Reply-To: <4F293BF3.1010704@techno-chat.net> References: <4F293BF3.1010704@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Look at your status bar. It will say at&t or TMobile or in my friend's case, sprint. Also your phone will be a lot cheaper. An unlocked phone will cost you about $700 or so. Take care. On Feb 1, 2012, at 5:19 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > Interesting this one, the only way I know of is to remember where you got the iPhone from. If it's from a carrier chances are it will be locked. If it's from Apple or some other reseller then chances are unlocked but depending on retailer it could be locked as well. > > On 01/02/2012 11:30, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> Hello, >> I have an iPhone 3GS running the latest IOS 5 software. Short of changing my SIM card is there any way to know whether the ipHone is locked to a specific mobile network or not? Can I determine this from the iPhone settings in some way? >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 14:32:56 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria From Australia) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 01:32:56 +1100 Subject: bit the bullet! but have more questions. Message-ID: <3046BB6E-4700-4678-AF7A-131CE943D61A@gmail.com> HI. aI am away from home. I recently got the news that my pc is broken and probably can't be fixed. Unfortunately I don't have a back up of my phone on a drive anywhere here. I am pretty sure the data is unrecoverable besides it's 12 hours by car away. So, i bit the bullet and am now the proud owner of a mac mini. Is there any way i can create a library and back up my phone the way it is currently and then sinc it? Not too worried about the music and books, I have most of them on a hard drive or on my windows netbook i have with me. don't really want to re download all the apps though. Failing that, is there a way i can back all the apps to the cloud if i get more cloud space? How would i then sinc the phone with itunes and my new mac? what should i do about deauthorising the computer that's gone bye byes? thanks for any and all answers. Hope this is not too off topic. Will ask my other questions in another post. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 14:35:50 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria From Australia) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 01:35:50 +1100 Subject: new mac mini. Message-ID: <094E4D1A-24CE-4323-81B8-D99272E4863E@gmail.com> Hi. ok so the mac mini is set up and talking. i am slowly working through a tutorial i found on apple. is there a site out there like apple vis that lists apps that are accessible? Can anyone recommend some apps to get me started? Where would i find an email programme so i can set up my gmail account? and one more question am i correct in assuming if I'm using the apple keyboard with the mac i need to turn blue tooth off on my phone and visa versa? thanks Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 14:44:40 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 06:44:40 -0800 Subject: new mac mini. In-Reply-To: <094E4D1A-24CE-4323-81B8-D99272E4863E@gmail.com> References: <094E4D1A-24CE-4323-81B8-D99272E4863E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9E5F2866-4F07-40C2-ABE0-7603CF11C84B@gmail.com> You are correct on the latter asumption. You can use apple mail as it works fine. As for a lit of accessibil apps. applevis has a mac section now. Take care. On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:35 AM, Maria From Australia wrote: > Hi. ok so the mac mini is set up and talking. i am slowly working through a tutorial i found on apple. is there a site out there like apple vis that lists apps that are accessible? Can anyone recommend some apps to get me started? Where would i find an email programme so i can set up my gmail account? and one more question am i correct in assuming if I'm using the apple keyboard with the mac i need to turn blue tooth off on my phone and visa versa? > > thanks > > > Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 15:05:37 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 07:05:37 -0800 Subject: bit the bullet! but have more questions. In-Reply-To: <3046BB6E-4700-4678-AF7A-131CE943D61A@gmail.com> References: <3046BB6E-4700-4678-AF7A-131CE943D61A@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Maria From Australia wrote: > Is there any way i can create a library and back up my phone the way it is currently and then sinc it? Not too worried about the music and books, I have most of them on a hard drive or on my windows netbook i have with me. don't really want to re download all the apps though. Failing that, is there a way i can back all the apps to the cloud if i get more cloud space? How would i then sinc the phone with itunes and my new mac? > answer: You can create a cloud account and then back up your phone to it. 5 gigs is a lot though storage. I have 89 apps on my phone and I only use 2 gigs of space. I now synch contacts and apps and pics to the cloud and ICal events and it works great. > what should i do about deauthorising the computer that's gone bye byes answer: not much. You can only have 5 computers authorized at once. I think you can wait until you use all 5 spaces and then I believe choose to reset all of them. but I'm not sure on that matter. Take care. From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 15:49:11 2012 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 10:49:11 -0500 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> Message-ID: When in the app, it is sometimes difficult to use because with the slightest move of the phone, it ends up in edit mode, or list commands, or even wipe out. This makes it difficult to listen to the list, or add text or a recording. I think the app is great, and if there could be a way for this not to happen so easily, that would make the app even better, and certainly easier to use. On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Daniela Rubio wrote: List recorder is a great App. When we are able to append more to an existing file and the screen lock bug is fixed, I will use it much more! And, by the way, have you thought in translating in to other languages? You could have much more users who speak spanish. If you are interested, just get back to me. Cheers! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 01/02/2012, a las 04:45, Sarah Alawami escribi?: > the shake when i n a call aint going to happen. The reason? apple does not let you record or play anything in a call. but I do like the rest of your suggestions. > On Jan 31, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Hello Eric, >> >> Thanks for taking the time to do this. I was hoping to switch from ClearRecord to List Recorder for recording my class lectures this semester, but the lock screen issue bit me in my first class, causing me to unknowingly not record the entire class, so I haven't touched List Recorder since then. >> >> I like the current feature set and the suggestions you mentioned, but for me the app is currently not an option because of the lock screen bug. >> >> Cheers, >> Bryan >> >> On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >> >>> Hello listers, >>> >>> I am a enthusiastic List Recorder user. I've been gathering personal recommendations for the developer concerning improvements, fixes, and desired new features. I'm wondering if other List Recorder users would be willing to share such thoughts with me. >>> >>> How would you like to see this app improved? >>> >>> >>> Here are some of my current favorite desired improvements >>> >>> Modest suggestions: >>> >>> I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. >>> I would like moved items to be automatically unchecked once they are moved >>> I would like to be placed on the first item of a list when I move to a list >>> Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization >>> I would like a option for a different sound for signaling the start of a recording. A clear click or pop would be just fine. >>> >>> Big suggestions: >>> >>> I would like to take written notes while I'm recording and later be able to review my written notes and if desired have the recording play back where I was when I made the note. >>> >>> I would like the option for a very fast quick record even when List recorder is in the background. For example I could be on a call and shake the phone and make a recording and have it be waiting in list recorder when I go back to the app. >>> >>> >>> I would like the option to use the due date area to have my list recorder item become a calendar event >>> >>> Or, perhaps List Recorder items that come due could show up in notifications. >>> I would like to be able to back up all my items onto the computer easily and also restore them back to the phone. I realize part of this is all ready available, as we can back up to a computer. >>> >>> I would like to be able to import a recording to make part of a list. >>> For that matter it might be good to be able to import text as well. >>> >>> fixes: >>> >>> List recorder should return to the behavior broken in iOS5 where recording continues after the phone locks. Currently it stops recording. >>> >>> Thank you for any suggestions big or small. >>> >>> Currently I use many devices to meet my work needs, Victor Reader, Olympus recorder, Milestone 312, and if I could only have one device I'd pick my iPhone with List Recorder. >>> >>> I have done a few rustic podcasts on using List Recorder version 2.2. I'm no professional. However, I'm told they will be eventually made available at sixth mode.com >>> >>> The developer truly listens to and acts on suggestions. please share yours with me. I'd love to keep this app discussion on list but if people would rather contact me off list that is fine. >>> >>> >>> eric Caron >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From jpanarese at mac-access.net Wed Feb 1 18:00:42 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 13:00:42 -0500 Subject: Help with ical on my mac In-Reply-To: <91DD1ABF-2D3E-4596-A16B-3D17ED5B991E@gmail.com> References: <5270085312209134367@unknownmsgid> <494107C7-7270-4D34-9F97-FFAE754776A2@mac-access.net> <91DD1ABF-2D3E-4596-A16B-3D17ED5B991E@gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't know how I did it, but I actually can choose between 3 of my account for email alerts. Also, you can set audible reminders and you can have the alert or email activated in a variety of increments prior to the event. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:46 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You ask it to send you an email in the alerts section but you canot choose the email. it will send to your default one by default. I dunno if there is a way to change this though. > On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > >> Will ical tell you a few days in advance about an event? How do you ask it to send to email? >> Thanks. >> Lovette >> >> On 2012-01-31, at 10:42 AM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> To be honest, iCal is one of those applications that some folks find difficult on the surface, but it really is not once you use it. >>> >>> Command-n will create a new event. You give the event a title and hit enter. Then, next to the title, there is an event scroll area you need to interact with. This is where you will setup specifics about the event, such as the date, time, alarms, invitees, etc. You just use the VO keys and right or left arrows to navigate the options and you, in the cases of setting the date and times, interact with the slider to move them. >>> >>> To search for an event by date, shift-command-t will enable you to do this. >>> >>> Take Care >>> John Panarese >>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:05 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: >>> >>>> I sent an email before about getting help on ical and I don't know if >>>> it ggot through to the list. So I thought I would send another email. >>>> I need someone to tell me how to add calandar events on different days >>>> and how to move to an event? Also anything else that I need to know >>>> about ical. >>>> I'm using a Mac book pro. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Margaret >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jpanarese at mac-access.net Wed Feb 1 18:15:23 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 13:15:23 -0500 Subject: new mac mini. In-Reply-To: <094E4D1A-24CE-4323-81B8-D99272E4863E@gmail.com> References: <094E4D1A-24CE-4323-81B8-D99272E4863E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <24200C51-416D-49C1-BF77-8CC8A281324C@mac-access.net> Hi Maria, Applevis now has Mac applications reviewed as well, so you might want to check around their site. They just added that recently. As for the Bluetooth keyboard, yes, it's probably best to turn off BT on the opposite device. I do this as well. Lastly, you can set up Gmail in the Apple Mail program. By default, it will set up an imap account, and it should be pretty straight forward to accomplish. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Maria From Australia wrote: > Hi. ok so the mac mini is set up and talking. i am slowly working through a tutorial i found on apple. is there a site out there like apple vis that lists apps that are accessible? Can anyone recommend some apps to get me started? Where would i find an email programme so i can set up my gmail account? and one more question am i correct in assuming if I'm using the apple keyboard with the mac i need to turn blue tooth off on my phone and visa versa? > > thanks > > > Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Wed Feb 1 18:30:33 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:30:33 +0000 Subject: How to tell if iPhone is locked to a specific network In-Reply-To: References: <4F293BF3.1010704@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Hello All, Do any of you have an iPhone which you know is not locked to any specific network? If you have such an iPhone can you please check what the status bar at the top of the screen says. Does it tell you the name of the network associated with your current SIM card as it would for an iPhone which is locked to that network or does it say something else? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell On 1 Feb 2012, at 14:05, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Look at your status bar. It will say at&t or TMobile or in my friend's case, sprint. Also your phone will be a lot cheaper. An unlocked phone will cost you about $700 or so. > > Take care. > On Feb 1, 2012, at 5:19 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Interesting this one, the only way I know of is to remember where you got the iPhone from. If it's from a carrier chances are it will be locked. If it's from Apple or some other reseller then chances are unlocked but depending on retailer it could be locked as well. >> >> On 01/02/2012 11:30, Paul Hopewell wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I have an iPhone 3GS running the latest IOS 5 software. Short of changing my SIM card is there any way to know whether the ipHone is locked to a specific mobile network or not? Can I determine this from the iPhone settings in some way? >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Feb 1 18:44:12 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 13:44:12 -0500 Subject: ftp in mac osx lion, having trouble In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <243325AF-75FE-45A5-9684-5C7ED47F2187@softcon.com> Giving someone write access allows them to write files to that folder. That's all the permission you need to delete stuff. If you want them to upload things, then their upload folder should be outside of the project folder as a whole, so that there is no access for them to get to other files. It won't hurt to let them have read access, but it's likely you'll need to add execute permissions to the folder, sometimes some of the unix variants (and I've not tested osx for this behavior) won't allow anyone to read or write to the folder regardless of their permissions if they don't have execute permission. Odd, I know, but I've seen this behavior in slackware linux especially, and one or two other commercial unix variants such as aix and SunOs, though I'm not sure if it was just an artifact of the way we were doing things, or if it's an across the board problem. The simplest way to control users and their permissions is via groups, add them to a group that only has write access, then set the folder permissions to write only, for the group, then they can't see the other contents in the folder. However, for reasons stated above, write only access isn't always the best option. Some ftp clients will try to cd to the folder one level at a time, and if they can't hit the interveneing folders, they will fail even though they're not supposed to care what's before that level in the file hiearchy. In addition, I've seen ftp clients fail because they couldn't read the folder as well, though this hasn't been a problem with the command-line ftp programs I've used. Check to see what client this person is using, and try it yourself, to see if it's arguing or not. Then, if it is, check your system logs to see what the error actually is, this will help track down the problems. In osx, the console app (located in the utility folder) will give you access to the system logs. hth. From steve.holmes88 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 20:01:06 2012 From: steve.holmes88 at gmail.com (Steve Holmes) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:01:06 -0800 Subject: bit the bullet! but have more questions. In-Reply-To: References: <3046BB6E-4700-4678-AF7A-131CE943D61A@gmail.com> Message-ID: To the question of deauthorization of computers, you can deauthorize all your computers with a single hit once each year from the web site. If you had to do more often, then you might have to pleed with them over the phone. I thought I was gonna have to do that recently myself because my stupid windows environment got authorized twice some how. But I think I can go into iTunes on that machine and deauthorize one time to hopefully reduce the count. Good luck on the rest of the computer woes. On 2/1/12, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Maria From Australia wrote: > >> Is there any way i can create a library and back up my phone the way it is >> currently and then sinc it? Not too worried about the music and books, I >> have most of them on a hard drive or on my windows netbook i have with me. >> don't really want to re download all the apps though. Failing that, is >> there a way i can back all the apps to the cloud if i get more cloud >> space? How would i then sinc the phone with itunes and my new mac? > >> answer: You can create a cloud account and then back up your phone to it. >> 5 gigs is a lot though storage. I have 89 apps on my phone and I only use >> 2 gigs of space. I now synch contacts and apps and pics to the cloud and >> ICal events and it works great. > > >> what should i do about deauthorising the computer that's gone bye byes > > > answer: not much. You can only have 5 computers authorized at once. I think > you can wait until you use all 5 spaces and then I believe choose to reset > all of them. but I'm not sure on that matter. > > Take care. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From lyewchan at telus.net Wed Feb 1 20:24:51 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:24:51 -0800 Subject: Help with ical on my mac In-Reply-To: <91DD1ABF-2D3E-4596-A16B-3D17ED5B991E@gmail.com> References: <5270085312209134367@unknownmsgid> <494107C7-7270-4D34-9F97-FFAE754776A2@mac-access.net> <91DD1ABF-2D3E-4596-A16B-3D17ED5B991E@gmail.com> Message-ID: I did not see t his option. On 2012-01-31, at 9:46 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You ask it to send you an email in the alerts section but you canot choose the email. it will send to your default one by default. I dunno if there is a way to change this though. > On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > >> Will ical tell you a few days in advance about an event? How do you ask it to send to email? >> Thanks. >> Lovette >> >> On 2012-01-31, at 10:42 AM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> To be honest, iCal is one of those applications that some folks find difficult on the surface, but it really is not once you use it. >>> >>> Command-n will create a new event. You give the event a title and hit enter. Then, next to the title, there is an event scroll area you need to interact with. This is where you will setup specifics about the event, such as the date, time, alarms, invitees, etc. You just use the VO keys and right or left arrows to navigate the options and you, in the cases of setting the date and times, interact with the slider to move them. >>> >>> To search for an event by date, shift-command-t will enable you to do this. >>> >>> Take Care >>> John Panarese >>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:05 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: >>> >>>> I sent an email before about getting help on ical and I don't know if >>>> it ggot through to the list. So I thought I would send another email. >>>> I need someone to tell me how to add calandar events on different days >>>> and how to move to an event? Also anything else that I need to know >>>> about ical. >>>> I'm using a Mac book pro. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Margaret >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Wed Feb 1 20:45:55 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:45:55 -1000 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <59306ABE-CFC9-4930-B75C-945D23D5EE8F@mac.com> Hello Eric and Others, I'd make a few revisions to some of your suggested modifications for List Recorder: You said: ? I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. Instead of changing the default display sort method, why not request that users can manually rearrange the list items, in much the same way that users can re-arrange the order of bookmarks in Safari, or that I can re-order items I have turned into a list in the Simplenote app (where changing notes into a list is one of the premium subscriber features) by touching the iPhone at the right edge for the listed item and dragging it up or down? This is akin to your suggestion: ? Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization I also like the ability in the Simplenote app to "pin" certain notes to the top of a list, regardless of sort order. I agree with yourself, Bryan, and others, that the ability to record while the screen is locked is a "must fix" item. And certainly, more language localizations for the app, including Spanish as Daniela suggested, would be useful. Cheers, Esther From jpanarese at mac-access.net Wed Feb 1 20:51:54 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:51:54 -0500 Subject: Help with ical on my mac In-Reply-To: References: <5270085312209134367@unknownmsgid> <494107C7-7270-4D34-9F97-FFAE754776A2@mac-access.net> <91DD1ABF-2D3E-4596-A16B-3D17ED5B991E@gmail.com> Message-ID: It's in the alerts popup. You need to arrow down the list. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 1, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > I did not see t his option. > > On 2012-01-31, at 9:46 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> You ask it to send you an email in the alerts section but you canot choose the email. it will send to your default one by default. I dunno if there is a way to change this though. >> On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: >> >>> Will ical tell you a few days in advance about an event? How do you ask it to send to email? >>> Thanks. >>> Lovette >>> >>> On 2012-01-31, at 10:42 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>>> To be honest, iCal is one of those applications that some folks find difficult on the surface, but it really is not once you use it. >>>> >>>> Command-n will create a new event. You give the event a title and hit enter. Then, next to the title, there is an event scroll area you need to interact with. This is where you will setup specifics about the event, such as the date, time, alarms, invitees, etc. You just use the VO keys and right or left arrows to navigate the options and you, in the cases of setting the date and times, interact with the slider to move them. >>>> >>>> To search for an event by date, shift-command-t will enable you to do this. >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> John Panarese >>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:05 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: >>>> >>>>> I sent an email before about getting help on ical and I don't know if >>>>> it ggot through to the list. So I thought I would send another email. >>>>> I need someone to tell me how to add calandar events on different days >>>>> and how to move to an event? Also anything else that I need to know >>>>> about ical. >>>>> I'm using a Mac book pro. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Margaret >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 21:19:11 2012 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 22:19:11 +0100 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: <59306ABE-CFC9-4930-B75C-945D23D5EE8F@mac.com> References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> <59306ABE-CFC9-4930-B75C-945D23D5EE8F@mac.com> Message-ID: <753DA245-3D18-4952-8BE1-26EC05030A42@gmail.com> Hi. The possibility to record when the screen is locked would be a great fix. I need the possibility to add more recording to a recording, to append something to an existing recording. It would also be great if we could delete some of a recording that is unwanted. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 1, 2012 kl. 9:45 PM skrev Esther: > Hello Eric and Others, > > I'd make a few revisions to some of your suggested modifications for List Recorder: > > You said: > ? I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. > > Instead of changing the default display sort method, why not request that users can manually rearrange the list items, in much the same way that users can re-arrange the order of bookmarks in Safari, or that I can re-order items I have turned into a list in the Simplenote app (where changing notes into a list is one of the premium subscriber features) by touching the iPhone at the right edge for the listed item and dragging it up or down? > > This is akin to your suggestion: > ? Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization > > I also like the ability in the Simplenote app to "pin" certain notes to the top of a list, regardless of sort order. > > I agree with yourself, Bryan, and others, that the ability to record while the screen is locked is a "must fix" item. > > And certainly, more language localizations for the app, including Spanish as Daniela suggested, would be useful. > > Cheers, > > Esther > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 21:51:03 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria From Australia) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:51:03 +1100 Subject: bit the bullet! but have more questions. In-Reply-To: References: <3046BB6E-4700-4678-AF7A-131CE943D61A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi. ok, so if i back my phone up to the cloud then can i just sinc with itunes on my new mac? will it ask if i want to back things up first? in short i guess what i'm asking is, how do i keep all my apps in tact and sinc with itunes. thanks Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 02/02/2012, at 7:01 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: > To the question of deauthorization of computers, you can deauthorize > all your computers with a single hit once each year from the web site. > If you had to do more often, then you might have to pleed with them > over the phone. I thought I was gonna have to do that recently myself > because my stupid windows environment got authorized twice some how. > But I think I can go into iTunes on that machine and deauthorize one > time to hopefully reduce the count. > > Good luck on the rest of the computer woes. > > On 2/1/12, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Maria From Australia wrote: >> >>> Is there any way i can create a library and back up my phone the way it is >>> currently and then sinc it? Not too worried about the music and books, I >>> have most of them on a hard drive or on my windows netbook i have with me. >>> don't really want to re download all the apps though. Failing that, is >>> there a way i can back all the apps to the cloud if i get more cloud >>> space? How would i then sinc the phone with itunes and my new mac? >> >>> answer: You can create a cloud account and then back up your phone to it. >>> 5 gigs is a lot though storage. I have 89 apps on my phone and I only use >>> 2 gigs of space. I now synch contacts and apps and pics to the cloud and >>> ICal events and it works great. >> >> >>> what should i do about deauthorising the computer that's gone bye byes >> >> >> answer: not much. You can only have 5 computers authorized at once. I think >> you can wait until you use all 5 spaces and then I believe choose to reset >> all of them. but I'm not sure on that matter. >> >> Take care. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lauriemehta at yahoo.com Wed Feb 1 23:06:37 2012 From: lauriemehta at yahoo.com (Laurie Mehta) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:06:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: voiceover language question, please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1328137597.48872.YahooMailClassic@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi, Can voiceover read/speak in more than one language, depending on what text it encounters? On my MacBook Air, I have set language preferences in the order that I want, and I have enabled the scripts that I want, but voiceover is not reading in any language other than English, regardless of text. Apparently, the screen displays all scripts correctly, it is just that voiceover is not reading anything other than English. What I am hoping to achieve is what I have using NVDA in Windows. With NVDA, the reading can be set to read through text even switching automatically between languages. For example, if I have a document written in Hindi using Dev Nagri script, in which there is also some English text, NVDA will read both the Hindi and the English smoothly, switching as appropriate between the languages as the text alternates. So, can voiceover be multi-lingual? If so, how do I set this up? Thanks very much! - Laurie From james.austin at mac-access.net Wed Feb 1 23:15:10 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 23:15:10 +0000 Subject: voiceover language question, please In-Reply-To: <1328137597.48872.YahooMailClassic@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1328137597.48872.YahooMailClassic@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi - Laurie To my knowledge, no, VoiceOver cannot switch languages on the fly. it would certainly be auseful feature though. Having said this though, have you ensured that the checkbox "Allow VoiceOver to be contolled with AppleScript" is selected in the "General" pane of the VoiceOver Utility? I do not think this will help, but you never know, I've been wrong before. Per your suggestion, you might want to drop the accessibility folks at Apple a note, suggesting this feature. you can reach them at: accessibility at apple.com TC :) James You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 1 Feb 2012, at 23:06, Laurie Mehta wrote: > - Laurie From lyewchan at telus.net Wed Feb 1 23:52:48 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:52:48 -0800 Subject: Help with ical on my mac In-Reply-To: References: <5270085312209134367@unknownmsgid> <494107C7-7270-4D34-9F97-FFAE754776A2@mac-access.net> <91DD1ABF-2D3E-4596-A16B-3D17ED5B991E@gmail.com> Message-ID: How do I get m email address into my ical? It says I need to take it from the address book but I just don't see how to do that. Lovette On 2012-02-01, at 12:51 PM, John Panarese wrote: > It's in the alerts popup. You need to arrow down the list. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Feb 1, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > >> I did not see t his option. >> >> On 2012-01-31, at 9:46 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> You ask it to send you an email in the alerts section but you canot choose the email. it will send to your default one by default. I dunno if there is a way to change this though. >>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: >>> >>>> Will ical tell you a few days in advance about an event? How do you ask it to send to email? >>>> Thanks. >>>> Lovette >>>> >>>> On 2012-01-31, at 10:42 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>> >>>>> To be honest, iCal is one of those applications that some folks find difficult on the surface, but it really is not once you use it. >>>>> >>>>> Command-n will create a new event. You give the event a title and hit enter. Then, next to the title, there is an event scroll area you need to interact with. This is where you will setup specifics about the event, such as the date, time, alarms, invitees, etc. You just use the VO keys and right or left arrows to navigate the options and you, in the cases of setting the date and times, interact with the slider to move them. >>>>> >>>>> To search for an event by date, shift-command-t will enable you to do this. >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> John Panarese >>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:05 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I sent an email before about getting help on ical and I don't know if >>>>>> it ggot through to the list. So I thought I would send another email. >>>>>> I need someone to tell me how to add calandar events on different days >>>>>> and how to move to an event? Also anything else that I need to know >>>>>> about ical. >>>>>> I'm using a Mac book pro. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Margaret >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jpanarese at mac-access.net Thu Feb 2 00:07:58 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 19:07:58 -0500 Subject: Help with ical on my mac In-Reply-To: References: <5270085312209134367@unknownmsgid> <494107C7-7270-4D34-9F97-FFAE754776A2@mac-access.net> <91DD1ABF-2D3E-4596-A16B-3D17ED5B991E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Do you have a card designated as, my card, in Address Book? It seems, from what I have read, you need to have a card in your address book created for yourself. If you already do, try deleting and recreating and then setting it in iCal. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > How do I get m email address into my ical? It says I need to take it from the address book but I just don't see how to do that. > Lovette > > On 2012-02-01, at 12:51 PM, John Panarese wrote: > >> It's in the alerts popup. You need to arrow down the list. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: >> >>> I did not see t his option. >>> >>> On 2012-01-31, at 9:46 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> You ask it to send you an email in the alerts section but you canot choose the email. it will send to your default one by default. I dunno if there is a way to change this though. >>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Will ical tell you a few days in advance about an event? How do you ask it to send to email? >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> Lovette >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-01-31, at 10:42 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> To be honest, iCal is one of those applications that some folks find difficult on the surface, but it really is not once you use it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Command-n will create a new event. You give the event a title and hit enter. Then, next to the title, there is an event scroll area you need to interact with. This is where you will setup specifics about the event, such as the date, time, alarms, invitees, etc. You just use the VO keys and right or left arrows to navigate the options and you, in the cases of setting the date and times, interact with the slider to move them. >>>>>> >>>>>> To search for an event by date, shift-command-t will enable you to do this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take Care >>>>>> John Panarese >>>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:05 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I sent an email before about getting help on ical and I don't know if >>>>>>> it ggot through to the list. So I thought I would send another email. >>>>>>> I need someone to tell me how to add calandar events on different days >>>>>>> and how to move to an event? Also anything else that I need to know >>>>>>> about ical. >>>>>>> I'm using a Mac book pro. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Margaret >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 00:42:30 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:42:30 -0800 Subject: bit the bullet! but have more questions. In-Reply-To: References: <3046BB6E-4700-4678-AF7A-131CE943D61A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ah I didn't know that. Thanks for the tip. S On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > To the question of deauthorization of computers, you can deauthorize > all your computers with a single hit once each year from the web site. > If you had to do more often, then you might have to pleed with them > over the phone. I thought I was gonna have to do that recently myself > because my stupid windows environment got authorized twice some how. > But I think I can go into iTunes on that machine and deauthorize one > time to hopefully reduce the count. > > Good luck on the rest of the computer woes. > > On 2/1/12, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Maria From Australia wrote: >> >>> Is there any way i can create a library and back up my phone the way it is >>> currently and then sinc it? Not too worried about the music and books, I >>> have most of them on a hard drive or on my windows netbook i have with me. >>> don't really want to re download all the apps though. Failing that, is >>> there a way i can back all the apps to the cloud if i get more cloud >>> space? How would i then sinc the phone with itunes and my new mac? >> >>> answer: You can create a cloud account and then back up your phone to it. >>> 5 gigs is a lot though storage. I have 89 apps on my phone and I only use >>> 2 gigs of space. I now synch contacts and apps and pics to the cloud and >>> ICal events and it works great. >> >> >>> what should i do about deauthorising the computer that's gone bye byes >> >> >> answer: not much. You can only have 5 computers authorized at once. I think >> you can wait until you use all 5 spaces and then I believe choose to reset >> all of them. but I'm not sure on that matter. >> >> Take care. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 00:45:09 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:45:09 -0800 Subject: ftp in mac osx lion, having trouble In-Reply-To: <243325AF-75FE-45A5-9684-5C7ED47F2187@softcon.com> References: <243325AF-75FE-45A5-9684-5C7ED47F2187@softcon.com> Message-ID: <3A23CC0C-FFD2-4916-8592-FF88D4A0363C@gmail.com> He is using filezilla I think. and I don't know anything about groups but he will write to ~username/archives/scott douglas the archives folder and the 2 dj's folder names are set to write only bu I might try th eexicute thing as well. or set it to read and right. we'll see. On Feb 1, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Giving someone write access allows them to write files to that folder. That's all the permission you need to delete stuff. > If you want them to upload things, then their upload folder should be outside of the project folder as a whole, so that there is no access for them to get to other files. > It won't hurt to let them have read access, but it's likely you'll need to add execute permissions to the folder, sometimes some of the unix variants (and I've not tested osx for this behavior) won't allow anyone to read or write to the folder regardless of their permissions if they don't have execute permission. Odd, I know, but I've seen this behavior in slackware linux especially, and one or two other commercial unix variants such as aix and SunOs, though I'm not sure if it was just an artifact of the way we were doing things, or if it's an across the board problem. > The simplest way to control users and their permissions is via groups, add them to a group that only has write access, then set the folder permissions to write only, for the group, then they can't see the other contents in the folder. However, for reasons stated above, write only access isn't always the best option. Some ftp clients will try to cd to the folder one level at a time, and if they can't hit the interveneing folders, they will fail even though they're not supposed to care what's before that level in the file hiearchy. > In addition, I've seen ftp clients fail because they couldn't read the folder as well, though this hasn't been a problem with the command-line ftp programs I've used. > Check to see what client this person is using, and try it yourself, to see if it's arguing or not. Then, if it is, check your system logs to see what the error actually is, this will help track down the problems. In osx, the console app (located in the utility folder) will give you access to the system logs. > hth. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 00:57:35 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:57:35 -0800 Subject: ftp in mac osx lion, having trouble In-Reply-To: <243325AF-75FE-45A5-9684-5C7ED47F2187@softcon.com> References: <243325AF-75FE-45A5-9684-5C7ED47F2187@softcon.com> Message-ID: Ok. I am not sure if I solved it but here is the log from last night. It's in a text link so as not to overwhelm the list. http://tinypaste.com/20286048 i saw multiple attempts from the same person and i know who it was as they ejmailed me and said they had done it. I set both folders to read and right for the everyone group so we'll see if this works. Take care. and thanks and don't mind my ignerence on this stuff. I'm learning as I go. Take care. On Feb 1, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Giving someone write access allows them to write files to that folder. That's all the permission you need to delete stuff. > If you want them to upload things, then their upload folder should be outside of the project folder as a whole, so that there is no access for them to get to other files. > It won't hurt to let them have read access, but it's likely you'll need to add execute permissions to the folder, sometimes some of the unix variants (and I've not tested osx for this behavior) won't allow anyone to read or write to the folder regardless of their permissions if they don't have execute permission. Odd, I know, but I've seen this behavior in slackware linux especially, and one or two other commercial unix variants such as aix and SunOs, though I'm not sure if it was just an artifact of the way we were doing things, or if it's an across the board problem. > The simplest way to control users and their permissions is via groups, add them to a group that only has write access, then set the folder permissions to write only, for the group, then they can't see the other contents in the folder. However, for reasons stated above, write only access isn't always the best option. Some ftp clients will try to cd to the folder one level at a time, and if they can't hit the interveneing folders, they will fail even though they're not supposed to care what's before that level in the file hiearchy. > In addition, I've seen ftp clients fail because they couldn't read the folder as well, though this hasn't been a problem with the command-line ftp programs I've used. > Check to see what client this person is using, and try it yourself, to see if it's arguing or not. Then, if it is, check your system logs to see what the error actually is, this will help track down the problems. In osx, the console app (located in the utility folder) will give you access to the system logs. > hth. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Thu Feb 2 01:19:02 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:19:02 -0500 Subject: ftp in mac osx lion, having trouble In-Reply-To: References: <243325AF-75FE-45A5-9684-5C7ED47F2187@softcon.com> Message-ID: <68D82624-FF85-4846-95E6-3F39FB0A4FD8@softcon.com> I'm not seeing any error messages in that log file. Either ftpd didn't report any, or the log didn't display them when you searched for them. According to the log you showed, all that happened was a connection (several times) nothing occurred after connect, not an attempted upload, or even any downloads, or errors reading the file folders. Sorry it's such a pain, but it does get this way sometimes. :) From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Thu Feb 2 01:46:45 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:46:45 -0500 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <0CB000C0-A977-4062-8448-32C08B3C4806@Mac-Access.net> Hi Brian and others, Wow the responses to this question have been amazing and helpful. I'm not sure the best way to answer all of these so I think I will just work my way through one at a time and try not to repeat information as I go. The developer knows about the problem about recording stoping when the screen locks. She plans to do a fix in the next release. Please let me know about any other needed fixes. eric Caron On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello Eric, > > Thanks for taking the time to do this. I was hoping to switch from ClearRecord to List Recorder for recording my class lectures this semester, but the lock screen issue bit me in my first class, causing me to unknowingly not record the entire class, so I haven't touched List Recorder since then. > > I like the current feature set and the suggestions you mentioned, but for me the app is currently not an option because of the lock screen bug. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> Hello listers, >> >> I am a enthusiastic List Recorder user. I've been gathering personal recommendations for the developer concerning improvements, fixes, and desired new features. I'm wondering if other List Recorder users would be willing to share such thoughts with me. >> >> How would you like to see this app improved? >> >> >> Here are some of my current favorite desired improvements >> >> Modest suggestions: >> >> I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. >> I would like moved items to be automatically unchecked once they are moved >> I would like to be placed on the first item of a list when I move to a list >> Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization >> I would like a option for a different sound for signaling the start of a recording. A clear click or pop would be just fine. >> >> Big suggestions: >> >> I would like to take written notes while I'm recording and later be able to review my written notes and if desired have the recording play back where I was when I made the note. >> >> I would like the option for a very fast quick record even when List recorder is in the background. For example I could be on a call and shake the phone and make a recording and have it be waiting in list recorder when I go back to the app. >> >> >> I would like the option to use the due date area to have my list recorder item become a calendar event >> >> Or, perhaps List Recorder items that come due could show up in notifications. >> I would like to be able to back up all my items onto the computer easily and also restore them back to the phone. I realize part of this is all ready available, as we can back up to a computer. >> >> I would like to be able to import a recording to make part of a list. >> For that matter it might be good to be able to import text as well. >> >> fixes: >> >> List recorder should return to the behavior broken in iOS5 where recording continues after the phone locks. Currently it stops recording. >> >> Thank you for any suggestions big or small. >> >> Currently I use many devices to meet my work needs, Victor Reader, Olympus recorder, Milestone 312, and if I could only have one device I'd pick my iPhone with List Recorder. >> >> I have done a few rustic podcasts on using List Recorder version 2.2. I'm no professional. However, I'm told they will be eventually made available at sixth mode.com >> >> The developer truly listens to and acts on suggestions. please share yours with me. I'd love to keep this app discussion on list but if people would rather contact me off list that is fine. >> >> >> eric Caron >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Thu Feb 2 01:52:31 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:52:31 -0500 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1C59FB77-0607-4CE8-8D6E-9F16CA024891@Mac-Access.net> Hi Sarah and others, I guess my Phone call example was not a good one. What I'm looking for is a way to very quickly make a recording and have it waiting for me in a handy location. Other ideas on how that might be done would be great. My work is very fast paced and I'd love to be able to make very quick recordings. I even find waking up the phone and unlocking it to be frustrating time wise. My thought was that shaking the phone immediately to start a recording would be quick and easy and then a shake or two finger scrub to end the recording would work well. Any suggestions? Eric Caron On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > the shake when i n a call aint going to happen. The reason? apple does not let you record or play anything in a call. but I do like the rest of your suggestions. > On Jan 31, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Hello Eric, >> >> Thanks for taking the time to do this. I was hoping to switch from ClearRecord to List Recorder for recording my class lectures this semester, but the lock screen issue bit me in my first class, causing me to unknowingly not record the entire class, so I haven't touched List Recorder since then. >> >> I like the current feature set and the suggestions you mentioned, but for me the app is currently not an option because of the lock screen bug. >> >> Cheers, >> Bryan >> >> On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >> >>> Hello listers, >>> >>> I am a enthusiastic List Recorder user. I've been gathering personal recommendations for the developer concerning improvements, fixes, and desired new features. I'm wondering if other List Recorder users would be willing to share such thoughts with me. >>> >>> How would you like to see this app improved? >>> >>> >>> Here are some of my current favorite desired improvements >>> >>> Modest suggestions: >>> >>> I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. >>> I would like moved items to be automatically unchecked once they are moved >>> I would like to be placed on the first item of a list when I move to a list >>> Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization >>> I would like a option for a different sound for signaling the start of a recording. A clear click or pop would be just fine. >>> >>> Big suggestions: >>> >>> I would like to take written notes while I'm recording and later be able to review my written notes and if desired have the recording play back where I was when I made the note. >>> >>> I would like the option for a very fast quick record even when List recorder is in the background. For example I could be on a call and shake the phone and make a recording and have it be waiting in list recorder when I go back to the app. >>> >>> >>> I would like the option to use the due date area to have my list recorder item become a calendar event >>> >>> Or, perhaps List Recorder items that come due could show up in notifications. >>> I would like to be able to back up all my items onto the computer easily and also restore them back to the phone. I realize part of this is all ready available, as we can back up to a computer. >>> >>> I would like to be able to import a recording to make part of a list. >>> For that matter it might be good to be able to import text as well. >>> >>> fixes: >>> >>> List recorder should return to the behavior broken in iOS5 where recording continues after the phone locks. Currently it stops recording. >>> >>> Thank you for any suggestions big or small. >>> >>> Currently I use many devices to meet my work needs, Victor Reader, Olympus recorder, Milestone 312, and if I could only have one device I'd pick my iPhone with List Recorder. >>> >>> I have done a few rustic podcasts on using List Recorder version 2.2. I'm no professional. However, I'm told they will be eventually made available at sixth mode.com >>> >>> The developer truly listens to and acts on suggestions. please share yours with me. I'd love to keep this app discussion on list but if people would rather contact me off list that is fine. >>> >>> >>> eric Caron >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Thu Feb 2 02:02:17 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 21:02:17 -0500 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Daniella and others, Currently I'm aware that List recorder is available in French and Norwegian. This was only possible because other enthusiastic List Recorder users volunteered to do the translations. If other folks with the needed language skills can offer their help I am sure the developer would work with us to make the App available to more people. I had not thought about being able to append to a recording. I'll add that to my growing list of suggestions. I'm not really sure what doing a translation for the app requires. I'm sure that at least all the text on the app that is in English must be translated to the new Language. this must include button titles, headings, and probably tutorials on the app, and more I don't know about. If you really think you might be able to volunteer that type of time write to me, off list, and I'll facilitate that connection. Eric Caron On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Daniela Rubio wrote: > List recorder is a great App. When we are able to append more to an existing file and the screen lock bug is fixed, I will use it much more! > And, by the way, have you thought in translating in to other languages? You could have much more users who speak spanish. If you are interested, just get back to me. > Cheers! > > SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. > MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. > EN TWITTER: @macneticos > NUESTRO BLOG EN: > www.macneticus.blogspot.com > Y EL PODCAST EN:` > http://macneticos.libsyn.com > > > > El 01/02/2012, a las 04:45, Sarah Alawami escribi?: > >> the shake when i n a call aint going to happen. The reason? apple does not let you record or play anything in a call. but I do like the rest of your suggestions. >> On Jan 31, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >>> Hello Eric, >>> >>> Thanks for taking the time to do this. I was hoping to switch from ClearRecord to List Recorder for recording my class lectures this semester, but the lock screen issue bit me in my first class, causing me to unknowingly not record the entire class, so I haven't touched List Recorder since then. >>> >>> I like the current feature set and the suggestions you mentioned, but for me the app is currently not an option because of the lock screen bug. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Bryan >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>> >>>> Hello listers, >>>> >>>> I am a enthusiastic List Recorder user. I've been gathering personal recommendations for the developer concerning improvements, fixes, and desired new features. I'm wondering if other List Recorder users would be willing to share such thoughts with me. >>>> >>>> How would you like to see this app improved? >>>> >>>> >>>> Here are some of my current favorite desired improvements >>>> >>>> Modest suggestions: >>>> >>>> I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. >>>> I would like moved items to be automatically unchecked once they are moved >>>> I would like to be placed on the first item of a list when I move to a list >>>> Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization >>>> I would like a option for a different sound for signaling the start of a recording. A clear click or pop would be just fine. >>>> >>>> Big suggestions: >>>> >>>> I would like to take written notes while I'm recording and later be able to review my written notes and if desired have the recording play back where I was when I made the note. >>>> >>>> I would like the option for a very fast quick record even when List recorder is in the background. For example I could be on a call and shake the phone and make a recording and have it be waiting in list recorder when I go back to the app. >>>> >>>> >>>> I would like the option to use the due date area to have my list recorder item become a calendar event >>>> >>>> Or, perhaps List Recorder items that come due could show up in notifications. >>>> I would like to be able to back up all my items onto the computer easily and also restore them back to the phone. I realize part of this is all ready available, as we can back up to a computer. >>>> >>>> I would like to be able to import a recording to make part of a list. >>>> For that matter it might be good to be able to import text as well. >>>> >>>> fixes: >>>> >>>> List recorder should return to the behavior broken in iOS5 where recording continues after the phone locks. Currently it stops recording. >>>> >>>> Thank you for any suggestions big or small. >>>> >>>> Currently I use many devices to meet my work needs, Victor Reader, Olympus recorder, Milestone 312, and if I could only have one device I'd pick my iPhone with List Recorder. >>>> >>>> I have done a few rustic podcasts on using List Recorder version 2.2. I'm no professional. However, I'm told they will be eventually made available at sixth mode.com >>>> >>>> The developer truly listens to and acts on suggestions. please share yours with me. I'd love to keep this app discussion on list but if people would rather contact me off list that is fine. >>>> >>>> >>>> eric Caron >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Thu Feb 2 02:14:39 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 21:14:39 -0500 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5D194DEF-A74A-46D1-B5FA-E87D559046EB@Mac-Access.net> Hi marcy, Remember I'm responding to these messages as a List Recorder user. I have opinions that are different from other users and the developer. Personally, I agree with Marcy. I find the gestures can activate things unexpectedly and I would rather just use the touch screen. The default setting on List Recorder is to have all the phone movements turned on. This means as you tilt the phone in different ways things happen. Luckily, in settings you can turn off all these motions or just those you don't want. I've turned them all off! To do this in List Recorder go to settings and keep swiping until you hear no motion mode. then one more swipe and you have the option to turn this off or on. To stop the motions turn the switch on. I'd really like to know if people like the motions or if people don't like them or turn them off. When I first got List Recorder it was the original version. I saw a lot of potential and contacted the developer. I've been trying to improve the App ever since. Frankly, I don't use the motions at all and found them slow and intrusive. Sadly, I think the developer put a lot of work into them and liked the idea of giving people a fun and unique way to move around the App. So, other users, do you use the motions or turn them off. Do they improve your experience or would you not miss them if they were gone? Eric Caron On Feb 1, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > When in the app, it is sometimes difficult to use because with the slightest move of the phone, it ends up in edit mode, or list commands, or even wipe out. This makes it difficult to listen to the list, or add text or a recording. > > I think the app is great, and if there could be a way for this not to happen so easily, that would make the app even better, and certainly easier to use. > > On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Daniela Rubio wrote: > > List recorder is a great App. When we are able to append more to an existing file and the screen lock bug is fixed, I will use it much more! > And, by the way, have you thought in translating in to other languages? You could have much more users who speak spanish. If you are interested, just get back to me. > Cheers! > > SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. > MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. > EN TWITTER: @macneticos > NUESTRO BLOG EN: > www.macneticus.blogspot.com > Y EL PODCAST EN:` > http://macneticos.libsyn.com > > > > El 01/02/2012, a las 04:45, Sarah Alawami escribi?: > >> the shake when i n a call aint going to happen. The reason? apple does not let you record or play anything in a call. but I do like the rest of your suggestions. >> On Jan 31, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >>> Hello Eric, >>> >>> Thanks for taking the time to do this. I was hoping to switch from ClearRecord to List Recorder for recording my class lectures this semester, but the lock screen issue bit me in my first class, causing me to unknowingly not record the entire class, so I haven't touched List Recorder since then. >>> >>> I like the current feature set and the suggestions you mentioned, but for me the app is currently not an option because of the lock screen bug. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Bryan >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>> >>>> Hello listers, >>>> >>>> I am a enthusiastic List Recorder user. I've been gathering personal recommendations for the developer concerning improvements, fixes, and desired new features. I'm wondering if other List Recorder users would be willing to share such thoughts with me. >>>> >>>> How would you like to see this app improved? >>>> >>>> >>>> Here are some of my current favorite desired improvements >>>> >>>> Modest suggestions: >>>> >>>> I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. >>>> I would like moved items to be automatically unchecked once they are moved >>>> I would like to be placed on the first item of a list when I move to a list >>>> Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization >>>> I would like a option for a different sound for signaling the start of a recording. A clear click or pop would be just fine. >>>> >>>> Big suggestions: >>>> >>>> I would like to take written notes while I'm recording and later be able to review my written notes and if desired have the recording play back where I was when I made the note. >>>> >>>> I would like the option for a very fast quick record even when List recorder is in the background. For example I could be on a call and shake the phone and make a recording and have it be waiting in list recorder when I go back to the app. >>>> >>>> >>>> I would like the option to use the due date area to have my list recorder item become a calendar event >>>> >>>> Or, perhaps List Recorder items that come due could show up in notifications. >>>> I would like to be able to back up all my items onto the computer easily and also restore them back to the phone. I realize part of this is all ready available, as we can back up to a computer. >>>> >>>> I would like to be able to import a recording to make part of a list. >>>> For that matter it might be good to be able to import text as well. >>>> >>>> fixes: >>>> >>>> List recorder should return to the behavior broken in iOS5 where recording continues after the phone locks. Currently it stops recording. >>>> >>>> Thank you for any suggestions big or small. >>>> >>>> Currently I use many devices to meet my work needs, Victor Reader, Olympus recorder, Milestone 312, and if I could only have one device I'd pick my iPhone with List Recorder. >>>> >>>> I have done a few rustic podcasts on using List Recorder version 2.2. I'm no professional. However, I'm told they will be eventually made available at sixth mode.com >>>> >>>> The developer truly listens to and acts on suggestions. please share yours with me. I'd love to keep this app discussion on list but if people would rather contact me off list that is fine. >>>> >>>> >>>> eric Caron >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > -- > Marcy > marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 02:31:00 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:31:00 -0800 Subject: ftp in mac osx lion, having trouble In-Reply-To: <68D82624-FF85-4846-95E6-3F39FB0A4FD8@softcon.com> References: <243325AF-75FE-45A5-9684-5C7ED47F2187@softcon.com> <68D82624-FF85-4846-95E6-3F39FB0A4FD8@softcon.com> Message-ID: yeah I didn't either and I looked. Any ideas? I'm getting frustrated but I"m not going to give up. On Feb 1, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > I'm not seeing any error messages in that log file. Either ftpd didn't report any, or the log didn't display them when you searched for them. > According to the log you showed, all that happened was a connection (several times) nothing occurred after connect, not an attempted upload, or even any downloads, or errors reading the file folders. > Sorry it's such a pain, but it does get this way sometimes. :) > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 03:36:55 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 14:36:55 +1100 Subject: Deleting apps or programs off the Mac Message-ID: <-3544060700417466270@unknownmsgid> How do I delete an app or program off my Mac? Margaret Sent from my iPhone From w9fyi at mac-access.net Thu Feb 2 03:50:43 2012 From: w9fyi at mac-access.net (Justin Mann) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 21:50:43 -0600 Subject: for Anne Roberts? Message-ID: <7427AA82-65E2-49C7-9473-49999E5CFBDA@mac-access.net> Anne, Can you email me of list I am quite interested in this mla/apa template that you've got etc. My email is w9fyi at me.com Thanks Justin From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 04:26:03 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:26:03 -0800 Subject: Deleting apps or programs off the Mac In-Reply-To: <-3544060700417466270@unknownmsgid> References: <-3544060700417466270@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <91FF0CDD-CB38-41B0-92CD-AA0A09854D7B@gmail.com> hit cmd back space and theapp should be gone in to the trash. Take care all. On Feb 1, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > How do I delete an app or program off my Mac? > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 06:35:12 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 22:35:12 -0800 Subject: a loose foot not he bottom of my mbp Message-ID: <10356E41-43AE-4CF5-814B-332DE4147353@gmail.com> Hello all. I have a loose foot on my mac book pro. How can this be fixed? and will I have to take This thing into the apple store, again? Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Feb 2 07:56:14 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:56:14 +0100 Subject: for Anne Roberts? In-Reply-To: <7427AA82-65E2-49C7-9473-49999E5CFBDA@mac-access.net> References: <7427AA82-65E2-49C7-9473-49999E5CFBDA@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <824E9CD7-7E4B-4AA2-9922-E027D3A3BDE4@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Justin, I sent them to you the other day. Look in your Trash folder, in case the message was treated as spam. Cheers, Anne On 2 Feb 2012, at 04:50, Justin Mann wrote: > Anne, > Can you email me of list I am quite interested in this mla/apa template that you've got etc. My email is w9fyi at me.com > Thanks > Justin From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Feb 2 07:58:42 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:58:42 +0100 Subject: voiceover language question, please In-Reply-To: <1328137597.48872.YahooMailClassic@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1328137597.48872.YahooMailClassic@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8AB7DCB5-25C3-4C66-9EA6-D1A65928DB35@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Laurie, VoiceOver on the Mac does not switch voices automatically, but it's a quick matter to switch voices with VO-Cmd-Down Arrow. I switch between English and French all the time, so my Speech Attribute rotor stays on Default Voice. Cheers, Anne From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 09:14:41 2012 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 10:14:41 +0100 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: <5D194DEF-A74A-46D1-B5FA-E87D559046EB@Mac-Access.net> References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> <5D194DEF-A74A-46D1-B5FA-E87D559046EB@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Hi Eric. I dislike these gestures, they are difficult to remember and difficult to use for something at all. I would suggest, that they should be turned off by default. I will be happy to assist the developer to make list recorder available in danish. I will translate all the buttons and menus.. Best regards Annie. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 2, 2012 kl. 3:14 AM skrev Eric Caron: > Hi marcy, > > Remember I'm responding to these messages as a List Recorder user. I have opinions that are different from other users and the developer. > > Personally, I agree with Marcy. I find the gestures can activate things unexpectedly and I would rather just use the touch screen. The default setting on List Recorder is to have all the phone movements turned on. This means as you tilt the phone in different ways things happen. Luckily, in settings you can turn off all these motions or just those you don't want. > > I've turned them all off! > > To do this in List Recorder go to settings and keep swiping until you hear no motion mode. then one more swipe and you have the option to turn this off or on. To stop the motions turn the switch on. > > I'd really like to know if people like the motions or if people don't like them or turn them off. > > When I first got List Recorder it was the original version. I saw a lot of potential and contacted the developer. I've been trying to improve the App ever since. Frankly, I don't use the motions at all and found them slow and intrusive. Sadly, I think the developer put a lot of work into them and liked the idea of giving people a fun and unique way to move around the App. > > So, other users, do you use the motions or turn them off. Do they improve your experience or would you not miss them if they were gone? > > Eric Caron > On Feb 1, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > >> When in the app, it is sometimes difficult to use because with the slightest move of the phone, it ends up in edit mode, or list commands, or even wipe out. This makes it difficult to listen to the list, or add text or a recording. >> >> I think the app is great, and if there could be a way for this not to happen so easily, that would make the app even better, and certainly easier to use. >> >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Daniela Rubio wrote: >> >> List recorder is a great App. When we are able to append more to an existing file and the screen lock bug is fixed, I will use it much more! >> And, by the way, have you thought in translating in to other languages? You could have much more users who speak spanish. If you are interested, just get back to me. >> Cheers! >> >> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. >> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. >> EN TWITTER: @macneticos >> NUESTRO BLOG EN: >> www.macneticus.blogspot.com >> Y EL PODCAST EN:` >> http://macneticos.libsyn.com >> >> >> >> El 01/02/2012, a las 04:45, Sarah Alawami escribi?: >> >>> the shake when i n a call aint going to happen. The reason? apple does not let you record or play anything in a call. but I do like the rest of your suggestions. >>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Eric, >>>> >>>> Thanks for taking the time to do this. I was hoping to switch from ClearRecord to List Recorder for recording my class lectures this semester, but the lock screen issue bit me in my first class, causing me to unknowingly not record the entire class, so I haven't touched List Recorder since then. >>>> >>>> I like the current feature set and the suggestions you mentioned, but for me the app is currently not an option because of the lock screen bug. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Bryan >>>> >>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello listers, >>>>> >>>>> I am a enthusiastic List Recorder user. I've been gathering personal recommendations for the developer concerning improvements, fixes, and desired new features. I'm wondering if other List Recorder users would be willing to share such thoughts with me. >>>>> >>>>> How would you like to see this app improved? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here are some of my current favorite desired improvements >>>>> >>>>> Modest suggestions: >>>>> >>>>> I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. >>>>> I would like moved items to be automatically unchecked once they are moved >>>>> I would like to be placed on the first item of a list when I move to a list >>>>> Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization >>>>> I would like a option for a different sound for signaling the start of a recording. A clear click or pop would be just fine. >>>>> >>>>> Big suggestions: >>>>> >>>>> I would like to take written notes while I'm recording and later be able to review my written notes and if desired have the recording play back where I was when I made the note. >>>>> >>>>> I would like the option for a very fast quick record even when List recorder is in the background. For example I could be on a call and shake the phone and make a recording and have it be waiting in list recorder when I go back to the app. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would like the option to use the due date area to have my list recorder item become a calendar event >>>>> >>>>> Or, perhaps List Recorder items that come due could show up in notifications. >>>>> I would like to be able to back up all my items onto the computer easily and also restore them back to the phone. I realize part of this is all ready available, as we can back up to a computer. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to be able to import a recording to make part of a list. >>>>> For that matter it might be good to be able to import text as well. >>>>> >>>>> fixes: >>>>> >>>>> List recorder should return to the behavior broken in iOS5 where recording continues after the phone locks. Currently it stops recording. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for any suggestions big or small. >>>>> >>>>> Currently I use many devices to meet my work needs, Victor Reader, Olympus recorder, Milestone 312, and if I could only have one device I'd pick my iPhone with List Recorder. >>>>> >>>>> I have done a few rustic podcasts on using List Recorder version 2.2. I'm no professional. However, I'm told they will be eventually made available at sixth mode.com >>>>> >>>>> The developer truly listens to and acts on suggestions. please share yours with me. I'd love to keep this app discussion on list but if people would rather contact me off list that is fine. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> eric Caron >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> -- >> Marcy >> marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 09:37:41 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 20:37:41 +1100 Subject: External hard drive Message-ID: <-3973189677941851302@unknownmsgid> I have an external hard drive that I use with my windows laptop and when I plug it into my Mac it shows up.. That's not my problem. My problem is that I can't create folders or paste any folders from my Mac on to the external hard drive. What can I do about this? Margaret Sent from my iPhone From mike at busboom.at Thu Feb 2 09:46:00 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 10:46:00 +0100 Subject: Using a 32-bit USV Device on my Mac Message-ID: Hello all, I have an Aluminum Macbook from late 2008 with 4GB/Ram and a 2.4GHZ processor. I assume, but am not 100% sure that this is a 64-bit machine. I couldn't ascertain this when I went into the "About This Mac" option. I have a USB data stick for accessing the Internet during my upcoming visit to the U.S., and I am wondering how I can use this USB data stick. I checked with US Virgin Mobile, and this particular model will only work in 32-bit mode. Is there a way for me to use some sort of utility to emulate 32-bit mode under Lion 10.7.3? My alternative would be to run VMWare Fusion and Windows 7, but then my concern is that I would not be able to use mac applications that require an Internet connection. Any thoughts? Another approach might conceivably be for me to bite the bullet and purchase a USB DSL modem for my parents' phone line. Does anyone know of a reasonably-priced approach? I will be visiting my parents and they live in the middle of nowhere and don't have the Internet. I haven't lived in the States for over 30 years, so I'm pretty clueless about what my best approach would be. Normally when I go to the States, I have access to wireless networks, but that won't be the case for those five weeks. While I could live without the Internet if this were just vacation, I can't during this trip because I am involved in a book translation that is a collaborative project. Many thanks for any thoughts, Mike From margaretebooth at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 09:56:03 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 20:56:03 +1100 Subject: Sync ical with my iPhone Message-ID: <3818272694294136884@unknownmsgid> How do I set up ical on my Mac to sync with the calendar on myy iPhone? I want to be able to see my calendar events on both my Mac and iPhone. Margaret Sent from my iPhone From mabuhay94 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 09:59:08 2012 From: mabuhay94 at gmail.com (Daniela Rubio) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 10:59:08 +0100 Subject: Sync ical with my iPhone In-Reply-To: <3818272694294136884@unknownmsgid> References: <3818272694294136884@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <3ABD0899-B793-42B0-B719-5BB99AF78480@gmail.com> Just go ahead and activate iCloud on your mac as well and check the option to sinc Calendar events and contacts. Do the same on your IOS devise and you will have the events in both devises. SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 02/02/2012, a las 10:56, Margaret Booth escribi?: > How do I set up ical on my Mac to sync with the calendar on myy > iPhone? I want to be able to see my calendar events on both my Mac and > iPhone. > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 12:06:23 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 23:06:23 +1100 Subject: Searching in mail Message-ID: <-6816852342878904648@unknownmsgid> What is the shortcut key to bring up search in mail on my Mac? If there isn't a shortcut key how do I search for emails in mail? Margaret Sent from my iPhone From mabuhay94 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 12:27:40 2012 From: mabuhay94 at gmail.com (Daniela Rubio) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:27:40 +0100 Subject: Searching in mail In-Reply-To: <-6816852342878904648@unknownmsgid> References: <-6816852342878904648@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <58DBD0EC-8DBB-4D5B-B94B-ACA973C41A6B@gmail.com> Hello: When you are in the mailbox were you would like to search for a mail, press option Command and the later f to bring up the search field. Then, write the words or a name you are searching for. Mail will start speaking, for example, The message contains, xxx, and if you down arrow, you will bring up a menu where you can select the searching criteria, such as to look for that name in the messages, in the subject line, even you can see how it can help you to find mails related with people. When you have the criteria selected, do a Vo space and make a Vo Command t until you hear, Messages table. Interact with that table, and the only messages you will find are the ones that match with your search. You can open and work with that messages in the same way as always. When you are done and you want to bring up all your messages again, just go ahead and move trough the mailboxes table, select an other one and all will be set back to normal. Hope it helps. SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 02/02/2012, a las 13:06, Margaret Booth escribi?: > What is the shortcut key to bring up search in mail on my Mac? If > there isn't a shortcut key how do I search for emails in mail? > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Thu Feb 2 13:36:12 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:36:12 +0000 Subject: iphone 4s problem. Message-ID: <1D370BE5-654C-40FB-9850-A95D2E131107@googlemail.com> Hi all this is the second time i've had problems with a iphone 4s i'm using tessa the south african voice and this is the second time it has happened. The speach and sound has completely gone on the phone and this is the second fours i've had. Has anyone had this problem and if so how did you sort it. thanks. Ian McNamara From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 13:55:57 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria From Australia) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 00:55:57 +1100 Subject: Help with voiceover shortcut or gesture Message-ID: Hi have found quite a few commands for voiceover but this one I can't find. How does one open a link in a new window or tab with safari and how do u switch tabs speaking of safari. How can u copy a link you're sitting on? Ty in advance. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Thu Feb 2 14:45:27 2012 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 14:45:27 +0000 Subject: iphone 4s problem. In-Reply-To: <1D370BE5-654C-40FB-9850-A95D2E131107@googlemail.com> References: <1D370BE5-654C-40FB-9850-A95D2E131107@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ian. Never heard of this problem, but have you tried using compact Voice, as this may work. If not, then try changing the voice, with sighted help if you need to. Cheers. Lewis. On 2 Feb 2012, at 13:36, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi all this is the second time i've had problems with a iphone 4s i'm using tessa the south african voice and this is the second time it has happened. The speach and sound has completely gone on the phone and this is the second fours i've had. Has anyone had this problem and if so how did you sort it. > > thanks. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Thu Feb 2 14:55:16 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 14:55:16 +0000 Subject: iphone 4s problem. In-Reply-To: References: <1D370BE5-654C-40FB-9850-A95D2E131107@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <8F94B9E1-A299-4C16-952C-4AAE84358D61@googlemail.com> Hi how do i change to compact voice? Ian McNamara From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 16:58:50 2012 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 11:58:50 -0500 Subject: iphone 4s problem. In-Reply-To: <8F94B9E1-A299-4C16-952C-4AAE84358D61@googlemail.com> References: <1D370BE5-654C-40FB-9850-A95D2E131107@googlemail.com> <8F94B9E1-A299-4C16-952C-4AAE84358D61@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Go to settings/general/accessibility/voiceover on. In there you'll find a selection labelled, use compact voice. It is a toggle off or on. On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: Hi how do i change to compact voice? Ian McNamara <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Thu Feb 2 17:05:36 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 17:05:36 +0000 Subject: iphone 4s problem. In-Reply-To: References: <1D370BE5-654C-40FB-9850-A95D2E131107@googlemail.com> <8F94B9E1-A299-4C16-952C-4AAE84358D61@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <9EEE990C-5EFD-4BD2-B60D-AC398CDAEB17@googlemail.com> Thanks an adviser advised me to restore the settings back and set it up as a new Iphone so going to try that. see if it fixes the problem. Ian McNamara From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 17:13:48 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 09:13:48 -0800 Subject: Help with voiceover shortcut or gesture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: to switch tabs you hve to go tot the pages button and hit that and then use the change page comand to change tabs then hit done to get out of it. To clpy a link double tap and hold and then when the menu comes up click copy. On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Maria From Australia wrote: > Hi have found quite a few commands for voiceover but this one I can't find. How does one open a link in a new window or tab with safari and how do u switch tabs speaking of safari. How can u copy a link you're sitting on? Ty in advance. > > Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 17:14:25 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 09:14:25 -0800 Subject: Searching in mail In-Reply-To: <-6816852342878904648@unknownmsgid> References: <-6816852342878904648@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <41AEAC71-4BC4-4E1F-BA08-06BF89685B48@gmail.com> cmd option f will do it for you. there is a menu you can use to refine your search as well. Have fun. Take care all. On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > What is the shortcut key to bring up search in mail on my Mac? If > there isn't a shortcut key how do I search for emails in mail? > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 17:15:57 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 09:15:57 -0800 Subject: Using a 32-bit USV Device on my Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can hit the keys 3 2 together and hold them down while you start up. I believe this will work. There is a way to permanently go to 43 bit though but I cannot remember the terminal comand. On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello all, > > I have an Aluminum Macbook from late 2008 with 4GB/Ram and a 2.4GHZ processor. I assume, but am not 100% sure that this is a 64-bit machine. I couldn't ascertain this when I went into the "About This Mac" option. > > I have a USB data stick for accessing the Internet during my upcoming visit to the U.S., and I am wondering how I can use this USB data stick. I checked with US Virgin Mobile, and this particular model will only work in 32-bit mode. Is there a way for me to use some sort of utility to emulate 32-bit mode under Lion 10.7.3? > > My alternative would be to run VMWare Fusion and Windows 7, but then my concern is that I would not be able to use mac applications that require an Internet connection. Any thoughts? > > Another approach might conceivably be for me to bite the bullet and purchase a USB DSL modem for my parents' phone line. Does anyone know of a reasonably-priced approach? I will be visiting my parents and they live in the middle of nowhere and don't have the Internet. I haven't lived in the States for over 30 years, so I'm pretty clueless about what my best approach would be. Normally when I go to the States, I have access to wireless networks, but that won't be the case for those five weeks. While I could live without the Internet if this were just vacation, I can't during this trip because I am involved in a book translation that is a collaborative project. > > Many thanks for any thoughts, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 17:16:52 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 09:16:52 -0800 Subject: External hard drive In-Reply-To: <-3973189677941851302@unknownmsgid> References: <-3973189677941851302@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <8B74D1AD-98CA-4A05-86A9-F9D9DCD59029@gmail.com> It is an ntfs drive. there are some free tools that used to work but they broke with lion and were to my knowledge never fixed. but look for macfuse and see if you can get it to work. I hear that's one of the free ones that broke majorly. On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:37 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > I have an external hard drive that I use with my windows laptop and > when I plug it into my Mac it shows up.. That's not my problem. My > problem is that I can't create folders or paste any folders from my > Mac on to the external hard drive. What can I do about this? > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 17:45:25 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:45:25 -0500 Subject: VO muting and other IOS5 wierdness -> was iphone 4s problem. References: <1D370BE5-654C-40FB-9850-A95D2E131107@googlemail.com> <8F94B9E1-A299-4C16-952C-4AAE84358D61@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <7D8F5DFEF8E0449E84B2AE7FD3A7F05B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Ian, I doubt it's relevant, but you'll find the "use compact voice" option under settings->General->accessibility->voiceover. The compact voice is of lower quality, but the trade-off is that it will place less of a demand on system resources. Absent any kind of specifics in your problem scenario I can only venture to guess at a few possibilities. Sometimes the speaker volume winds up at the lowest possible setting. This could be as a result of human action such as having the phone in your pocket and the volume down button is pressed repeatedly. I also believe that an IOS bug causes this. For example, pulling my phone out of a dock some times results in the loss of volume, or some times it seems to happen for no discernible reason. To resolve this I'll take some action or gesture which should cause the speaker to emit output such as telling Siri to play music. Then holding the volume button should have an affect, which is not the case when there is no active sound output. If you hear the music, but not vo, try toggling it via the tripleClickHome gesture, or if that doesn't bring results press the power button eight times quickly to reinitialize. If you still get nothing other than ringtones emitted from your speaker, you may have a dust particle caught in the headphone jack causing the microswitch to remain open and consequently your hardware behaves as though headphones are connected regardless. When this occurs, you can usually dislodge the obstruction by inserting and withdrawing headphones into your jack about ten times quickly. A vacuum or canned air would also work. The above two problems are not specific to any particular IOS device or firmware level. Since I got my 4S, however, I've been experiencing an annoying intermittent/unreproducable problem that comes in two flavors. Since my hardware and firmware upgrades occurred simultaneously I can't say whether this is specific to the 4S, or if others running IOS5 are seeing this. The two others I know of who are experiencing the problem also use a 4S on the AT&T network, so perhaps the carrier/sim card is a factor? I donno! Anyway, what happens is that I answer a call and can hear/speak to my party for a second or two. Then we both go mute for about ten to fifteen seconds. If the person is not a regular caller, they'll likely assume the call was dropped and hang up. After the long pause, all goes back to normal. The second incarnation is that I do not hear my party, and in fact discover that my phone appears to be completely turned off since activating the mute switch does not cause any vibration. Pressing the power button has no affect, nor does the hard boot sequence (press and hold home and power for ten seconds). My phone becomes a paperweight for about ten minutes, after which I can power it on and the functionality returns to normal. I have not reported this to Apple because I cannot provide a scenario. I recall Sarah A once described how to capture log files, but this problem does not appear to generate a log entry. A friend contacted Apple and in typical fashion, they denied everything and replaced the phone which still has the same issue. So, if you're problem is not covered by the above, perhaps you could post a detailed description with a helpful subject line and we'll be glad to help. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian McNamara To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:55 AM Subject: Re: iphone 4s problem. Hi how do i change to compact voice? Ian McNamara <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Feb 2 18:29:35 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 18:29:35 +0000 Subject: iMac no longer plays start up music Message-ID: <213C1178-46D7-4DEA-BAB5-6D2C64C38133@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, For some time my iMac has stopped playing the chord it used to play shortly after being switched on. I had hoped that upgrading to Lion 10.7.3 would fix this but alas not. Any ideas on how I can restore that useful chord? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From tsiegel at softcon.com Thu Feb 2 01:19:02 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:19:02 -0500 Subject: ftp in mac osx lion, having trouble In-Reply-To: References: <243325AF-75FE-45A5-9684-5C7ED47F2187@softcon.com> Message-ID: <68D82624-FF85-4846-95E6-3F39FB0A4FD8@softcon.com> I'm not seeing any error messages in that log file. Either ftpd didn't report any, or the log didn't display them when you searched for them. According to the log you showed, all that happened was a connection (several times) nothing occurred after connect, not an attempted upload, or even any downloads, or errors reading the file folders. Sorry it's such a pain, but it does get this way sometimes. :) From opensesame at me.com Thu Feb 2 18:33:29 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:33:29 -0500 Subject: Call muting issue on 4S [Was: Re: VO muting and other IOS5 wierdness -> was iphone 4s problem.] In-Reply-To: <7D8F5DFEF8E0449E84B2AE7FD3A7F05B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <1D370BE5-654C-40FB-9850-A95D2E131107@googlemail.com> <8F94B9E1-A299-4C16-952C-4AAE84358D61@googlemail.com> <7D8F5DFEF8E0449E84B2AE7FD3A7F05B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: Geoff - I upgraded from the 4 to the 4S a few weeks ago and immediately began to experience the first issue you mentioned below. It doesn't happen on every call, but happens often enough to make me gun shy like the prox sensor did back when the 4 was first released. I've ATT network, latest IOS, standard troubleshooting, etc. Haven't notified Apple yet. Haven't experienced the second issue you listed. Bryan On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > what happens is that I answer a call and can hear/speak to my party for a second or two. Then we both go mute for about ten to fifteen seconds. If the person is not a regular caller, they'll likely assume the call was dropped and hang up. After the long pause, all goes back to normal. > > The second incarnation is that I do not hear my party, and in fact discover that my phone appears to be completely turned off since activating the mute switch does not cause any vibration. Pressing the power button has no affect, nor does the hard boot sequence (press and hold home and power for ten seconds). My phone becomes a paperweight for about ten minutes, after which I can power it on and the functionality returns to normal. From tsiegel at softcon.com Thu Feb 2 18:53:44 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:53:44 -0500 Subject: Help with voiceover shortcut or gesture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There are several options in the context menu, and most of the options you're asking about appear in that menu. To activate this menu, when the link you want is under the vo cursor, press vo-shift- m, and you'll get a pop-up menu with several options, one of which is copy link, and another of which is open in new window. hth. From gskroll at me.com Thu Feb 2 19:16:17 2012 From: gskroll at me.com (Glenn Kroll) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:16:17 -0500 Subject: Select All? Message-ID: <5395C77F-3A6C-42D9-ABF7-B7446C87E8ED@me.com> I am using an iPhone 4s and iPad 2 running the latest version of ios. I have some useful vision so move between VoiceOver and zoom. Is there an easy way (gesture?) to highlight text to then take advantage of the "Speak" option on the pop up that results from a "tap & hold"? Thanks! Glenn Sent from my iPhone From zkline at speedpost.net Thu Feb 2 19:18:52 2012 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 11:18:52 -0800 Subject: Call muting issue on 4S [Was: Re: VO muting and other IOS5 wierdness -> was iphone 4s problem.] In-Reply-To: References: <1D370BE5-654C-40FB-9850-A95D2E131107@googlemail.com> <8F94B9E1-A299-4C16-952C-4AAE84358D61@googlemail.com> <7D8F5DFEF8E0449E84B2AE7FD3A7F05B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <72587F26-8830-48AD-B008-149436A6A970@speedpost.net> Hi Brian and all, This is very odd, as I've not experienced this issue at all myself in the weeks since I got my iPhone. I'm on Verizon, perhaps the network has something to do with it? At any rate, as far as I'm concerned the phone works perfectly. I wish I had more constructive feedback to offer. I'd suggest calling the carrier, as they can tell you what happened on their end between the time the call arrived and you were able to speak. Yours, Zack. On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Geoff - I upgraded from the 4 to the 4S a few weeks ago and immediately began to experience the first issue you mentioned below. It doesn't happen on every call, but happens often enough to make me gun shy like the prox sensor did back when the 4 was first released. I've ATT network, latest IOS, standard troubleshooting, etc. Haven't notified Apple yet. Haven't experienced the second issue you listed. > > Bryan > > On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> what happens is that I answer a call and can hear/speak to my party for a second or two. Then we both go mute for about ten to fifteen seconds. If the person is not a regular caller, they'll likely assume the call was dropped and hang up. After the long pause, all goes back to normal. >> >> The second incarnation is that I do not hear my party, and in fact discover that my phone appears to be completely turned off since activating the mute switch does not cause any vibration. Pressing the power button has no affect, nor does the hard boot sequence (press and hold home and power for ten seconds). My phone becomes a paperweight for about ten minutes, after which I can power it on and the functionality returns to normal. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 19:46:55 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 14:46:55 -0500 Subject: Call muting issue on 4S [Was: Re: VO muting and other IOS5wierdness -> was iphone 4s problem.] References: <1D370BE5-654C-40FB-9850-A95D2E131107@googlemail.com><8F94B9E1-A299-4C16-952C-4AAE84358D61@googlemail.com><7D8F5DFEF8E0449E84B2AE7FD3A7F05B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <72587F26-8830-48AD-B008-149436A6A970@speedpost.net> Message-ID: Zach, This is helpful indeed. So I guess the question for Bryan and others is whether they saw this on the current IOS (5.01) before moving to the 4S and which carrier they're using? ----- Original Message ----- From: Zachary Kline To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Call muting issue on 4S [Was: Re: VO muting and other IOS5wierdness -> was iphone 4s problem.] Hi Brian and all, This is very odd, as I've not experienced this issue at all myself in the weeks since I got my iPhone. I'm on Verizon, perhaps the network has something to do with it? At any rate, as far as I'm concerned the phone works perfectly. I wish I had more constructive feedback to offer. I'd suggest calling the carrier, as they can tell you what happened on their end between the time the call arrived and you were able to speak. Yours, Zack. On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Geoff - I upgraded from the 4 to the 4S a few weeks ago and immediately began to experience the first issue you mentioned below. It doesn't happen on every call, but happens often enough to make me gun shy like the prox sensor did back when the 4 was first released. I've ATT network, latest IOS, standard troubleshooting, etc. Haven't notified Apple yet. Haven't experienced the second issue you listed. > > Bryan > > On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> what happens is that I answer a call and can hear/speak to my party for a second or two. Then we both go mute for about ten to fifteen seconds. If the person is not a regular caller, they'll likely assume the call was dropped and hang up. After the long pause, all goes back to normal. >> >> The second incarnation is that I do not hear my party, and in fact discover that my phone appears to be completely turned off since activating the mute switch does not cause any vibration. Pressing the power button has no affect, nor does the hard boot sequence (press and hold home and power for ten seconds). My phone becomes a paperweight for about ten minutes, after which I can power it on and the functionality returns to normal. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From opensesame at me.com Thu Feb 2 19:53:45 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:53:45 -0500 Subject: Call muting issue on 4S [Was: Re: VO muting and other IOS5wierdness -> was iphone 4s problem.] In-Reply-To: References: <1D370BE5-654C-40FB-9850-A95D2E131107@googlemail.com> <8F94B9E1-A299-4C16-952C-4AAE84358D61@googlemail.com> <7D8F5DFEF8E0449E84B2AE7FD3A7F05B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <72587F26-8830-48AD-B008-149436A6A970@speedpost.net> Message-ID: Didn't happen on my 4 running any version of IOS, including 5.01. Also, my sighted ex-wife, who upgraded from her ATT 3G to a 4S the same day I did, says the only time it happens to her is when she's on calls with me. Figure that one out. . Bryan On Feb 2, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Zach, > > This is helpful indeed. So I guess the question for Bryan and others is whether they saw this on the current IOS (5.01) before moving to the 4S and which carrier they're using? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Zachary Kline > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:18 PM > Subject: Re: Call muting issue on 4S [Was: Re: VO muting and other IOS5wierdness -> was iphone 4s problem.] > > > Hi Brian and all, > This is very odd, as I've not experienced this issue at all myself in the weeks since I got my iPhone. I'm on Verizon, perhaps the network has something to do with it? > At any rate, as far as I'm concerned the phone works perfectly. I wish I had more constructive feedback to offer. > I'd suggest calling the carrier, as they can tell you what happened on their end between the time the call arrived and you were able to speak. > Yours, > Zack. > On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Geoff - I upgraded from the 4 to the 4S a few weeks ago and immediately began to experience the first issue you mentioned below. It doesn't happen on every call, but happens often enough to make me gun shy like the prox sensor did back when the 4 was first released. I've ATT network, latest IOS, standard troubleshooting, etc. Haven't notified Apple yet. Haven't experienced the second issue you listed. >> >> Bryan >> >> On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> what happens is that I answer a call and can hear/speak to my party for a second or two. Then we both go mute for about ten to fifteen seconds. If the person is not a regular caller, they'll likely assume the call was dropped and hang up. After the long pause, all goes back to normal. >>> >>> The second incarnation is that I do not hear my party, and in fact discover that my phone appears to be completely turned off since activating the mute switch does not cause any vibration. Pressing the power button has no affect, nor does the hard boot sequence (press and hold home and power for ten seconds). My phone becomes a paperweight for about ten minutes, after which I can power it on and the functionality returns to normal. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From steve.holmes88 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 20:14:45 2012 From: steve.holmes88 at gmail.com (Steve Holmes) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:14:45 -0800 Subject: External hard drive In-Reply-To: <8B74D1AD-98CA-4A05-86A9-F9D9DCD59029@gmail.com> References: <-3973189677941851302@unknownmsgid> <8B74D1AD-98CA-4A05-86A9-F9D9DCD59029@gmail.com> Message-ID: Look for ntfs3g; that is what we use with linux to access read and write to NTFS file systems. I would think something like that should work with the mac since the mac is basically a BSD unix machine under the hood. I will also be interested in what you find here as I have a drive formatted with both NTFS and ext3 partitions. I'm reasonably sure the ext3 native linux partition is a non starter on the mac . On 2/2/12, Sarah Alawami wrote: > It is an ntfs drive. there are some free tools that used to work but they > broke with lion and were to my knowledge never fixed. but look for macfuse > and see if you can get it to work. I hear that's one of the free ones that > broke majorly. > On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:37 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > >> I have an external hard drive that I use with my windows laptop and >> when I plug it into my Mac it shows up.. That's not my problem. My >> problem is that I can't create folders or paste any folders from my >> Mac on to the external hard drive. What can I do about this? >> >> Margaret >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 21:02:46 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:02:46 -0800 Subject: External hard drive In-Reply-To: References: <-3973189677941851302@unknownmsgid> <8B74D1AD-98CA-4A05-86A9-F9D9DCD59029@gmail.com> Message-ID: I tried it and it broke and would not recignose any ntfs drives under lion but hopefully they got that fixed by now, Oh btw that is now a paid driver the toxera ntfs 3g if I'm thinking correctly. Sorry about spelling. On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > Look for ntfs3g; that is what we use with linux to access read and > write to NTFS file systems. I would think something like that should > work with the mac since the mac is basically a BSD unix machine under > the hood. I will also be interested in what you find here as I have a > drive formatted with both NTFS and ext3 partitions. I'm reasonably > sure the ext3 native linux partition is a non starter on the mac > . > > On 2/2/12, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> It is an ntfs drive. there are some free tools that used to work but they >> broke with lion and were to my knowledge never fixed. but look for macfuse >> and see if you can get it to work. I hear that's one of the free ones that >> broke majorly. >> On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:37 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: >> >>> I have an external hard drive that I use with my windows laptop and >>> when I plug it into my Mac it shows up.. That's not my problem. My >>> problem is that I can't create folders or paste any folders from my >>> Mac on to the external hard drive. What can I do about this? >>> >>> Margaret >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Thu Feb 2 21:22:25 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:22:25 -1000 Subject: External hard drive In-Reply-To: References: <-3973189677941851302@unknownmsgid> <8B74D1AD-98CA-4A05-86A9-F9D9DCD59029@gmail.com> Message-ID: <69B2F7AD-EF4A-4D20-B589-C6256567C219@mac.com> Hi Steve, Margaret, and Others, There are a couple of commercial solutions that will support writing to, as well as reading from external hard drives that you share with Windows systems. Vendors are Paragon and Tuxera for the NTFS-3G support Steve mentioned. There was an open-source project called MacFUSE (FUSE standing for Filesystem in Userspace), meant to make it easy to access files across different operating systems. That project stopped being supported in 2010, so the older downloadable interfaces that Sarah described are broken in Lion. Tuxera supposedly took up some of the public development, too, after the original effort dissolved, but the free NTFS-3G still hasn't been updated for a while, although they have brought out their commercial product for Lion. So the two commercial packages I'm aware of are Paragon Software Group's NTFS for Mac OS X and Tuxera NTFS, with prices of $19.95 and $36.50. Both have trial downloads at Macupdate. I'll point you to a blog article that gives a comparison of NTFS drivers for Mac OS X: and here is the shortened link if that wraps: It gets technical, and you have to read the summaries for the interpretation of the graphical data. Basically, it puts Tuxera slightly ahead, but ranks the two apps roughly equally (and estimates that the overall cost will be similar, so the selection depends on what you prioritize). The author chose Tuxera (based on reasons she gave at the end, which include not wanting to see the dot underscore file duplicates.) What's clear is that when you copy or delete folders full of files, NTFS-3G performance under both the schemes are much, much slower than the comparable operations on a drive formatted with Apple's native HFS+ format. I don't use these schemes to share with Windows file systems, so I have no personal experience. The only time I've ever used file sharing with Windows files is on dual-boot linux systems where a very small FAT partition was kept for Windows. (These were all machines sold as Windows laptops that were set up for linux use.) HTH. Some other list members may have more information. Cheers, Esther On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: > Look for ntfs3g; that is what we use with linux to access read and > write to NTFS file systems. I would think something like that should > work with the mac since the mac is basically a BSD unix machine under > the hood. I will also be interested in what you find here as I have a > drive formatted with both NTFS and ext3 partitions. I'm reasonably > sure the ext3 native linux partition is a non starter on the mac > . > > On 2/2/12, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> It is an ntfs drive. there are some free tools that used to work but they >> broke with lion and were to my knowledge never fixed. but look for macfuse >> and see if you can get it to work. I hear that's one of the free ones that >> broke majorly. >> On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:37 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: >> >>> I have an external hard drive that I use with my windows laptop and >>> when I plug it into my Mac it shows up.. That's not my problem. My >>> problem is that I can't create folders or paste any folders from my >>> Mac on to the external hard drive. What can I do about this? >>> >>> Margaret >>> >>> From lyewchan at telus.net Thu Feb 2 21:35:58 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:35:58 -0800 Subject: messages Message-ID: Hi there. Once in a while I find a message in trash that I never read in my in box. Does anyone know why or how to avoid this? Lovette From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 23:27:19 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:27:19 +1100 Subject: Help with voiceover shortcut or gesture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oopse i was half asleep and didn't explain that properly. the short cut i was after is for the mac. Or should that be short cuts? Thanks. Maria and Karly. ps now that I'm writing this message in apple mail, am wondering how to set up a signature? lol have used the other operating system for years but it's kind of fun to learn something new. thanks On 03/02/2012, at 4:13 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > to switch tabs you hve to go tot the pages button and hit that and then use the change page comand to change tabs then hit done to get out of it. To clpy a link double tap and hold and then when the menu comes up click copy. > On Feb 2, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Maria From Australia wrote: > >> Hi have found quite a few commands for voiceover but this one I can't find. How does one open a link in a new window or tab with safari and how do u switch tabs speaking of safari. How can u copy a link you're sitting on? Ty in advance. >> >> Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 23:35:25 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:35:25 +1100 Subject: Help with voiceover shortcut or gesture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39605283-A09F-42DE-9A46-B14C2B4F9FF2@gmail.com> HI. not getting those options with cvo shift m. i get back, reload page, open in dashboard, view source, save page as. and print page. thanks. Maria and Karly. On 03/02/2012, at 5:53 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > There are several options in the context menu, and most of the options you're asking about appear in that menu. To activate this menu, when the link you want is under the vo cursor, press vo-shift-m, and you'll get a pop-up menu with several options, one of which is copy link, and another of which is open in new window. > hth. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 23:44:51 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:44:51 -0800 Subject: Help with voiceover shortcut or gesture In-Reply-To: <39605283-A09F-42DE-9A46-B14C2B4F9FF2@gmail.com> References: <39605283-A09F-42DE-9A46-B14C2B4F9FF2@gmail.com> Message-ID: Strange. I can vo shift m on any link and get open link, download file, etc. I wonder if there's an option you have to change or try interacting wiht the text and fo arrowing to the link. then try vo shift m. good luck. On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > HI. not getting those options with cvo shift m. i get back, reload page, open in dashboard, view source, save page as. and print page. > > thanks. > > Maria and Karly. > > On 03/02/2012, at 5:53 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> There are several options in the context menu, and most of the options you're asking about appear in that menu. To activate this menu, when the link you want is under the vo cursor, press vo-shift-m, and you'll get a pop-up menu with several options, one of which is copy link, and another of which is open in new window. >> hth. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 00:37:05 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 19:37:05 -0500 Subject: Navigating in Preview. Message-ID: Greetings, I'm attempting to read a publication on my MBP running 10.7.3. It comes as either a 20.3 ePub document or a 60.3 MB PDF. When I open the epub, it launches an empty textedit window. I've waited several minutes to allow time for the file to open, but the file always appears to be blank. When I open the PDF, I can see the document in preview, but have not yet determined how to easily move around. Once I managed to jump to a page, but have not been able to make this happen with any degree of certainty. There must be a proper permutation of interaction and goto commands since it did happen once. I tried pressing command-option-g and entering a page number in the resulting dialog. I then have to stop interacting with the tool bar and vo-arrow to the text. If I use the scroll gesture it seems to reflect my desired position, but when I interact and start reading I'm at the top. Is there a better mac app for reading large documents? If not, what step am I missing in preview? TIA for any/all suggestions and best regards. Geoff From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Fri Feb 3 00:42:36 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 19:42:36 -0500 Subject: Navigating in Preview. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2FC674A2-FC7C-428B-ABFF-230F2A7272FA@Mac-Access.net> Geoff, I'm listening for responses to your request. If you get a description of Preview commands Please keep them on list as I've been needing to master this application. Sorry I don't have the answers just a shared need for the information. One tip though, I believe I've read discussion of a App called Skim that works well with voice Over. I figured I would start with Preview as normally my needs are pretty basic. Best. eric Caron On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm attempting to read a publication on my MBP running 10.7.3. It comes as either a 20.3 ePub document or a 60.3 MB PDF. > > When I open the epub, it launches an empty textedit window. I've waited several minutes to allow time for the file to open, but the file always appears to be blank. > > When I open the PDF, I can see the document in preview, but have not yet determined how to easily move around. Once I managed to jump to a page, but have not been able to make this happen with any degree of certainty. There must be a proper permutation of interaction and goto commands since it did happen once. > > I tried pressing command-option-g and entering a page number in the resulting dialog. I then have to stop interacting with the tool bar and vo-arrow to the text. If I use the scroll gesture it seems to reflect my desired position, but when I interact and start reading I'm at the top. > > Is there a better mac app for reading large documents? If not, what step am I missing in preview? > > TIA for any/all suggestions and best regards. > Geoff > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 00:48:34 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 16:48:34 -0800 Subject: Navigating in Preview. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C74C2BF-E7B5-4B98-9DE5-80D50FD63D9E@gmail.com> Try the app I use called Skim It works just swimmingly when dealigin with pdfs. Take care. On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm attempting to read a publication on my MBP running 10.7.3. It comes as either a 20.3 ePub document or a 60.3 MB PDF. > > When I open the epub, it launches an empty textedit window. I've waited several minutes to allow time for the file to open, but the file always appears to be blank. > > When I open the PDF, I can see the document in preview, but have not yet determined how to easily move around. Once I managed to jump to a page, but have not been able to make this happen with any degree of certainty. There must be a proper permutation of interaction and goto commands since it did happen once. > > I tried pressing command-option-g and entering a page number in the resulting dialog. I then have to stop interacting with the tool bar and vo-arrow to the text. If I use the scroll gesture it seems to reflect my desired position, but when I interact and start reading I'm at the top. > > Is there a better mac app for reading large documents? If not, what step am I missing in preview? > > TIA for any/all suggestions and best regards. > Geoff > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Fri Feb 3 02:51:50 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 21:51:50 -0500 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: <59306ABE-CFC9-4930-B75C-945D23D5EE8F@mac.com> References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> <59306ABE-CFC9-4930-B75C-945D23D5EE8F@mac.com> Message-ID: <84398C42-4A3D-4DA4-AB3B-7F3BE1D8D86E@Mac-Access.net> Hello Esther and others, Thanks to everyone again for these suggestions and tips. I've been adding them to my notes for suggestions to the developer and there were several I did not think of. Also, it is good to have some of my concerns validated. I'm going to comment below on portions of Esther's post. On Feb 1, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Esther wrote: > Hello Eric and Others, > > I'd make a few revisions to some of your suggested modifications for List Recorder: > > You said: > ? I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. > > Instead of changing the default display sort method, why not request that users can manually rearrange the list items, in much the same way that users can re-arrange the order of bookmarks in Safari, or that I can re-order items I have turned into a list in the Simplenote app (where changing notes into a list is one of the premium subscriber features) by touching the iPhone at the right edge for the listed item and dragging it up or down? > In the original List recorder App you could do just that but in real use it was a bit clunky. I'm told that there have been improvements in the iOS that may make bringing back this feature possible. Also, this feature works well in a single list but does not allow the user to move items into other lists. The current system of checking a item then pasting it is very much like the move option we now have on Lyon. The items are deleted from the original location and placed where you want them. The other reason I like the Manual sort rather then the Creation date is that with the manual sort you can decide ahead of time where you want the next list item to be. thus you eliminate the need to move it later. With creation date sort the new item is always the last in the list. So unless that is where you want it you now have to drag and drop or move it if you are in the Creation Date sort List Recorder comes with several sort options but currently you can't choose a default. > I also like the ability in the Simplenote app to "pin" certain notes to the top of a list, regardless of sort order. > In list Recorder you can do a similar function by checking the items you want at the top, then choosing the sort option that places checked items at the top of the list. This is not exactly the same function, but the two apps are very different. I agree with yourself, Bryan, and others, that the ability to record while the screen is locked is a "must fix" item. List Recorder, to me is primarily a app for organization using recordings. However, the text functions are also strong and seem to be getting improved. I must admit I don't use them a lot, but have used them more now that I have paired my keyboard to my phone. I think Simple Note is for text only and seems very powerful. Its search functions and sinking with the Mac are amazing. List Recorder is a recorder and note taker both and has different strengths. I especially enjoy the easy way items can be grouped into lists and even sub lists. I find that as I use the app I need to create more lists and organize things differently. It is easy to change locations of items and > > move them around into new lists or different lists as you need them. In my work list alone I have a presentation list, and inside that I have separate lists that I use for guides for different presentations. I just keep adding things in as I need them. > certainly, more language localizations for the app, including Spanish as Daniela suggested, would be useful. > It would be great if this app was available to users of other languages. I suspect that can happen if we can find capable volunteers to work with the developer. I remember in past discussions with her that she was very pleased when users offered to assist with translations. That is why French and Norwegian are now available. > Thanks again to Esther and all of you for your suggestions and observations. I will pass them along at the earliest opportunity. If you have more, keep them coming! eric Caron > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Feb 3 03:28:06 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 22:28:06 -0500 Subject: Navigating in Preview. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D6DD949-E508-45CC-A0F2-3DD2827EB7AA@softcon.com> If you're having trouble with previews continous view, try the single page view instead. This will only allow one page at a time to be vissible to vo, so that you won't be dropped back at the beginning of the document. There's some tricks for staying where you want to be in the preview app, but it's all dependent on whether or not you're interacting, and how your cursors are set, and (apparently) sometimes where the real cursor is. It's actually not hard to get where you want to go, but it is a bit tricky, and takes timing sometimes (since you need to catch vo before it starts reading from page 1, interact with the text, then (usually) you're back where vo was, but occasionally, this doesn't happen, so you get dropped back at the start, which can be quite confusing, especially if you're new to preview, and don't know how to move around. But, if you turn on single page view, this problem goes away, with the only caveat being that you can't read the whole pdf from start to finish with a vo-a like you can if it's in cntinuous mode. hth. From christoap at sky.com Fri Feb 3 09:19:11 2012 From: christoap at sky.com (Christo Thiardt) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:19:11 +0000 Subject: Handling Tables Message-ID: <000F0139-4CDD-4E17-A0A4-B12E409EA37A@sky.com> Dear All I have a number of Word documents with numerous tables filled with text. I also have to complete some of these with ticks in the appropriate places. Is there anyway of doing this using my MacBook with VO? Any suggestions will be gratefully received. Christo From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Feb 3 09:55:48 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:55:48 +0100 Subject: Handling Tables In-Reply-To: <000F0139-4CDD-4E17-A0A4-B12E409EA37A@sky.com> References: <000F0139-4CDD-4E17-A0A4-B12E409EA37A@sky.com> Message-ID: <7900DD0D-3F86-4235-BF7E-C96282C8D437@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Christo, On 3 Feb 2012, at 10:19, Christo Thiardt wrote: > > I have a number of Word documents with numerous tables filled with text. I also have to complete some of these with ticks in the appropriate places. > > Is there anyway of doing this using my MacBook with VO? TextEdit will read your documents with no trouble. If you find that ticking boxes is a problem, then things get more complicated. Pages doesn't handle tables well with VO. You can't even recognise a table unless you know it's there from reading the same document in TextEdit. A table shows up as a highlighted space, so if you can find it, you can copy it into a Numbers document, work on it there, and copy it back into Pages. Quite a messy procedure until you get used to it. If you find a highlighted space and want to know whether it is a table, go to the Format menu and go down to Table. In the submenu, look for "Convert table to text". If this option isn't dimmed, then you've got a table and you can make it visible using this command. However, if you modify the table under these circumstances, its formatting will be lost. Sorry for the ramble, but it's a complex subject. Cheers, Anne From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Feb 3 10:15:44 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:15:44 +0000 Subject: odd thing. Message-ID: <53C81C7C-EBDD-458D-9466-B4275E65AB21@googlemail.com> Hi all, when i go in to my home folder when trying to choose a itunes library in the store menu when i want to view an app, I can see it in the home folder on the finder in itunes but if i go in to the side bar menu on the finder and go to ianandriggs witch is my home folder i don't see the itunes folder. From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Fri Feb 3 12:45:32 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:45:32 +0000 Subject: Sound dock recommendations Message-ID: <4F2BD6EC.8010806@techno-chat.net> Hello all. First of all, I must stress I live in the UK. So UK availability would be of importance. Now onto the question. Does anyone have any recommendations regarding a sound dock for an iPhone 3GS? It must also charge the phone as well. Thanks in advance for any recommendations. From express_able at yahoo.com Fri Feb 3 15:10:29 2012 From: express_able at yahoo.com (Chris Johnson) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:10:29 -0700 Subject: NTFS external hard drive In-Reply-To: <9007625761782349746@unknownmsgid> References: <9007625761782349746@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <4F2BF8E5.2010500@yahoo.com> I use NTFS for Mac by Paragone (note: spelled with an e at the end not a g). They gave me good technical support over the phone a couple years ago. Chris Johnson Assistive Technology Specialist expressABLE Loveland, CO chris at eable.org On 1/31/12 1:54 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > I'm trying to use my NTFS external hard drive on my mac. I downloaded > a trial of paragong on to my Mac so I could use my NTFS external hard > drive but since I did this my external hard drive isn't showing up. > Can someone tell me if Paragong is the best progrram or is there a > better program. If there is a better program how do I remove paragong > off my Mac. > The reason I want to use this external hard dribe is beccause it has a > lot of my music and other things on it and some of it I want to putt > on to my Mac. > > Thanks > Margaret > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From express_able at yahoo.com Fri Feb 3 15:13:14 2012 From: express_able at yahoo.com (Chris Johnson) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:13:14 -0700 Subject: NTFS external hard drive In-Reply-To: <9007625761782349746@unknownmsgid> References: <9007625761782349746@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <4F2BF98A.1080308@yahoo.com> Ha! my bad; there's no e at the end either. Here's the number: 1-888-347-5462. Chris Johnson Assistive Technology Specialist expressABLE Loveland, CO chris at eable.org On 1/31/12 1:54 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > I'm trying to use my NTFS external hard drive on my mac. I downloaded > a trial of paragong on to my Mac so I could use my NTFS external hard > drive but since I did this my external hard drive isn't showing up. > Can someone tell me if Paragong is the best progrram or is there a > better program. If there is a better program how do I remove paragong > off my Mac. > The reason I want to use this external hard dribe is beccause it has a > lot of my music and other things on it and some of it I want to putt > on to my Mac. > > Thanks > Margaret > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Fri Feb 3 15:26:12 2012 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:26:12 +0000 Subject: editing playlists Message-ID: <583F472A-F876-42AC-9E63-DD73C6C45E14@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Hello all, I want to be able to remove songs from a playlist while it is playing. I have playlists set to shuffle and want to be able to get the vo cursor to the track now playing so I can edit it. Can anyone help? cheers Ian From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Fri Feb 3 15:27:31 2012 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:27:31 +0000 Subject: itunes movies Message-ID: Hi again, Can anyone tell me whether you can download films from itunes with audio description? Thanks Ian From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 17:57:08 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:57:08 -0800 Subject: itunes movies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96FA418B-1085-40DB-89DB-8CDFC84E0946@gmail.com> Probably not yet. I'd contact apple about this and see if they are willing to sign deals with the various discription studios out there and get those out there to us. On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: > Hi again, > > Can anyone tell me whether you can download films from itunes with audio description? > > Thanks > Ian > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 17:57:54 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:57:54 -0800 Subject: editing playlists In-Reply-To: <583F472A-F876-42AC-9E63-DD73C6C45E14@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> References: <583F472A-F876-42AC-9E63-DD73C6C45E14@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <9A3191FB-F19A-45A0-AED2-6FE1A45E0E68@gmail.com> go to the lcd section and hit show next view until you get to the name of the track view. then go to current song button and hit it and you will be placed there. I've used this many times on a 70 track playlist while I'm on air. Take care, On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: > Hello all, > > I want to be able to remove songs from a playlist while it is playing. > > I have > playlists set to shuffle and want to be able to get the vo cursor to the track now playing so I can edit it. > > Can anyone help? > > cheers > Ian > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 18:18:22 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:18:22 -0500 Subject: itunes movies In-Reply-To: <96FA418B-1085-40DB-89DB-8CDFC84E0946@gmail.com> References: <96FA418B-1085-40DB-89DB-8CDFC84E0946@gmail.com> Message-ID: You can get the movie "Up" from the iTunes store for $14.99 Just put Up in the search field and you'll see two versions. Jane On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Probably not yet. I'd contact apple about this and see if they are willing to sign deals with the various discription studios out there and get those out there to us. > On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: > >> Hi again, >> >> Can anyone tell me whether you can download films from itunes with audio description? >> >> Thanks >> Ian >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 18:21:16 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:21:16 -0500 Subject: extracting audio from video files Message-ID: <71F72ADF-BB9C-4A8C-938A-201949DB90D3@gmail.com> How can I get audio from .m4v files I have that includes audio description? Have a few DVDs ripped with audio description included, but I can't seem to get that track to export along with the main movie if I use QuickTime to Export as audio. Anyone know how I can do this? Yes, I know I can just sync the movies over to the iPad, but I want to be able to listen to the audio anywhere, and besides it's smaller than the movie. Jane From steve.holmes88 at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 18:53:34 2012 From: steve.holmes88 at gmail.com (Steve Holmes) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:53:34 -0800 Subject: Help with voiceover shortcut or gesture In-Reply-To: References: <39605283-A09F-42DE-9A46-B14C2B4F9FF2@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think this may vary depending on what the link is or goes to. I ran into this similar situation this morning. I originally started up Safari and went into the search box from the tool bar to look something up in Google. As I arrowed down the list of probable items to link to, I opened up the context menu and had trouble finding the item to open in a new tab. I also did not see anything for downloading; that would make sense here as the Google hits aren't usually downloadable items. Later on, I did find something I wanted to download and when opening that same context menu, I was offered additional choices including "Save linked file to Downloads" and "Saved linked file as..." I am still learning my way around Safari and the mac so I'm still "bouncing off the walls" just yet. Hope tHope these observations are of some help. On 2/2/12, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Strange. I can vo shift m on any link and get open link, download file, etc. > I wonder if there's an option you have to change or try interacting wiht the > text and fo arrowing to the link. then try vo shift m. > > good luck. > On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > >> HI. not getting those options with cvo shift m. i get back, reload page, >> open in dashboard, view source, save page as. and print page. >> >> thanks. >> >> Maria and Karly. >> >> On 03/02/2012, at 5:53 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: >> >>> There are several options in the context menu, and most of the options >>> you're asking about appear in that menu. To activate this menu, when the >>> link you want is under the vo cursor, press vo-shift-m, and you'll get a >>> pop-up menu with several options, one of which is copy link, and another >>> of which is open in new window. >>> hth. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 19:01:04 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:01:04 -0500 Subject: Navigating in Preview. References: <6D6DD949-E508-45CC-A0F2-3DD2827EB7AA@softcon.com> Message-ID: Thanks to all who responded. I may buy Skim though its primary function seems to be features I don't care about. Travis stated that its not hard to get where you want to go, and that is a reasonable expectation. After hiding the tool bar it seemed to work better, but now when I quit interacting, and bring up the go to page dialog via command-option-g and interact immediately, my focus remains where ever I was previously. Page up/down also have no apparent affect. Reading this 900 page file one page at a time (toggling interacting every step) is not a viable option. If this is in fact "not hard", perhaps you can offer a suggestion? TIA and best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Travis Siegel To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Navigating in Preview. If you're having trouble with previews continous view, try the single page view instead. This will only allow one page at a time to be vissible to vo, so that you won't be dropped back at the beginning of the document. There's some tricks for staying where you want to be in the preview app, but it's all dependent on whether or not you're interacting, and how your cursors are set, and (apparently) sometimes where the real cursor is. It's actually not hard to get where you want to go, but it is a bit tricky, and takes timing sometimes (since you need to catch vo before it starts reading from page 1, interact with the text, then (usually) you're back where vo was, but occasionally, this doesn't happen, so you get dropped back at the start, which can be quite confusing, especially if you're new to preview, and don't know how to move around. But, if you turn on single page view, this problem goes away, with the only caveat being that you can't read the whole pdf from start to finish with a vo-a like you can if it's in cntinuous mode. hth. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 19:34:41 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 11:34:41 -0800 Subject: extracting audio from video files In-Reply-To: <71F72ADF-BB9C-4A8C-938A-201949DB90D3@gmail.com> References: <71F72ADF-BB9C-4A8C-938A-201949DB90D3@gmail.com> Message-ID: Use mpeg stream clip to save them as something. I use a batch convertion to do that. I save them as aif and then use amadeus to convert them to mp3. Take care. On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Jane wrote: > How can I get audio from .m4v files I have that includes audio description? Have a few DVDs ripped with audio description included, but I can't seem to get that track to export along with the main movie if I use QuickTime to Export as audio. Anyone know how I can do this? > > Yes, I know I can just sync the movies over to the iPad, but I want to be able to listen to the audio anywhere, and besides it's smaller than the movie. > > Jane > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 19:35:36 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 11:35:36 -0800 Subject: itunes movies In-Reply-To: References: <96FA418B-1085-40DB-89DB-8CDFC84E0946@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5BF7301B-6FA8-4300-A79A-533C2BE78784@gmail.com> Oh is that the only movie that has DVS? I'm just curious. Take care all. On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Jane wrote: > You can get the movie "Up" from the iTunes store for $14.99 > > Just put Up in the search field and you'll see two versions. > > Jane > > > > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Probably not yet. I'd contact apple about this and see if they are willing to sign deals with the various discription studios out there and get those out there to us. >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: >> >>> Hi again, >>> >>> Can anyone tell me whether you can download films from itunes with audio description? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Ian >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Feb 3 19:44:34 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 09:44:34 -1000 Subject: itunes movies In-Reply-To: <96FA418B-1085-40DB-89DB-8CDFC84E0946@gmail.com> References: <96FA418B-1085-40DB-89DB-8CDFC84E0946@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5F9E6BA4-C079-4400-95FE-56D94E9A0F1D@mac.com> Hi Sarah and Ian, I thought there were considerably more audio described movies in the UK iTunes Store than in the US, where there are only a few or maybe one right now. Try doing a search of movies with the term "dvs". (In the US iTunes store, only "Up" will appear in a version for blind viewers). HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Probably not yet. I'd contact apple about this and see if they are willing to sign deals with the various discription studios out there and get those out there to us. > On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: > >> Hi again, >> >> Can anyone tell me whether you can download films from itunes with audio description? >> >> Thanks >> Ian >> From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Feb 3 19:56:16 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 19:56:16 +0000 Subject: Problem with Voxie and large files Message-ID: Hello, I am using the Voxie sound recorder app on my iPhone 3GS running the latest IOS 5. I am recording my piano playing and so am using the high quality recording option (22 KBPS). This works fine for recordings of about 2 minutes or less, but if I try to record say 5 minutes Voxie does not want to stop recording and save the results. Even at 2 minutes Voxie does not immediately end the recording but instead seems to take half a minute or so to catch up and save the recording. this catch up time seems to grow substantially as the recording gets longer and at 5 minutes I not convinced Voxie will ever catch up. Do others see this problem? WOuld it be better on an iPhone 4S with its faster processor? Is there anything I can do other than record the piano piece in 2 minute sections and use Amadeus Pro to join them together after the event. that is tricky as it is more difficult to maintain the same rhythm across multiple short recording sections. Many thanks for any tips. Paul Hopewell From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Feb 3 20:01:58 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 20:01:58 +0000 Subject: Navigating in Preview. In-Reply-To: References: <6D6DD949-E508-45CC-A0F2-3DD2827EB7AA@softcon.com> Message-ID: Hello Geoff, When I want to read a long PDF file I interact wit the test area and then press command+a to select all the text and then use the services option of preview to move the selected text into a new textedit window. I then save the textedit document as an RTF file which is then easy to read continuously. I have even used the services option to save the entire textedit document as a sound track in iTunes so that I can download it onto my iPod and listen to it in the garden or whatever. That works nicely. All the best.... Paul Hopewell From juanitatighan at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 20:46:20 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:46:20 -0500 Subject: itunes movies In-Reply-To: <5BF7301B-6FA8-4300-A79A-533C2BE78784@gmail.com> References: <96FA418B-1085-40DB-89DB-8CDFC84E0946@gmail.com> <5BF7301B-6FA8-4300-A79A-533C2BE78784@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6925E88A-471C-4319-BACD-2671DE789FD7@gmail.com> I saw Up and I think one of the Happy Feet movies, but I haven't seen more It's a shame, because I'd be happy to buy the movies if they had audio description from the iTunes store. Instead I end up buying the DVDs. Jane On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Oh is that the only movie that has DVS? I'm just curious. > > Take care all. > On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Jane wrote: > >> You can get the movie "Up" from the iTunes store for $14.99 >> >> Just put Up in the search field and you'll see two versions. >> >> Jane >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Probably not yet. I'd contact apple about this and see if they are willing to sign deals with the various discription studios out there and get those out there to us. >>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: >>> >>>> Hi again, >>>> >>>> Can anyone tell me whether you can download films from itunes with audio description? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Ian >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From steve.holmes88 at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 21:21:21 2012 From: steve.holmes88 at gmail.com (Steve Holmes) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:21:21 -0800 Subject: voice over question. In-Reply-To: References: <38B10D12-612F-46D1-81E8-0C6C5E53FEF0@gmail.com> <8E5F6F58-C651-41C8-BA2E-05B5106EAEE4@speedpost.net> <72E5B651-B822-4F49-AE8E-0EB14EB20F36@gmail.com> <46C68CE1-BEAF-414D-B93A-0C017B096C9F@mac-access.net> <26A1E5AF-A48A-4E64-98A8-71F591D1FED6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Count this to be sort of a mini victory... In a follow-up call I received earlier this week from the senior tech support person at Apple, she acknoleged that their engineers were able to reproduce my problem when they attempted to run a mac without a monitor Furthermore, she told me they would try and work that into a future update. Too bad 10.7.3 came out that same day so I'm sure it would be a while now. But at least they recognize that the problem exists and willingness to fix it. On 1/30/12, Steve Holmes wrote: > I wondered the same thing. I might actually try that this evening and > see what happens. That plug reminds me more of an USB connecter > however. Still anything's worth a try. I just don't wanna have to > shell out more bucs just fake out the Mini. I really think Apple > should fix this situation so that a monitor would not be required for > anything except for using the mac without VoiceOver. > > On 1/30/12, Diane Bomar wrote: >> For those having this problem, have you tried connecting the small >> monitor >> cable that comes with the Mac Mini? It might be a Thunderbolt cable, I am >> not sure, but, would be interested to know if just attaching the cable >> would >> work for you. I am not experiencing these problems. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "matthew Dyer" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:46 AM >> Subject: Re: voice over question. >> >> >>> Oh ok. I found a monitor for 20 bucks which I am waiting to be shipped. >>> There is a device thatt will trick the mac mioni into thinking there is >>> one, but don't know what is called >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>> >>>> That's interesting. I asked several people in the Apple stores this >>>> very >>>> >>>> question and they probably thought it a crazy idea but once they >>>> realized >>>> >>>> I was gonna use VO, they didn't think there would be any problem with >>>> that. >>>> Any ideas on how to "trick" the mini into seeing a monitor? >>>> >>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:44 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>>> >>>>> This is probably your issue than. I know Apple support will say you >>>>> can run a Mini without a monitor, but there have been several reports >>>>> to >>>>> >>>>> the contrary, including my own personal experience. You need to use a >>>>> monitor or trick the Mini into thinking it has a monitor connected. >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> John Panarese >>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Interesting question. No, I do not have a monitor connected. I went >>>>>> the cheap route here and chose to save $300 or so by not buying one. >>>>>> I >>>>>> >>>>>> wouldn't think that should affect this but who knows. I think I will >>>>>> update the Apple tech support staff that I don't have a monitor >>>>>> connected. I would be quite interested in this issue for sure. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the possible idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>>> This may seem an odd question, but do you have a monitor connected >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> your mac mini? I think I recall reading on this list that not having >>>>>>> one can lead to a number of strange preference-saving issues. >>>>>>> Voiceover should indeed be turned on automatically, as it does on my >>>>>>> MBP. >>>>>>> Yours, >>>>>>> Zack. >>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't exactly have this issue but I am having another issue with >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> new mac mini. I have my login options set to start VO >>>>>>>> automatically >>>>>>>> at the login prompt and that part works fine. But after I complete >>>>>>>> login by entering my password, I then have to turn VO back on with >>>>>>>> Command+F5 every time. I also confirm in system preferences that >>>>>>>> VO >>>>>>>> is indeed set on. Isn't VOsupposed to start up automatically after >>>>>>>> logging in? Apple tech support seems to be stumped on this one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Michael Fridey wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hi guys is people having same problem as me I am finding my >>>>>>>>> setting >>>>>>>>> in vo to speek greeting wen macbook loads up. >>>>>>>>> It is checked wen I shut down but wen i turn macbook on and it >>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>> not talk I go in and find the check box is unchecked. >>>>>>>>> cheers Michael. >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the >>>>>>>>> Mac-Access >>>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>>>>>> Trojan, >>>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum >>>> >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus >>>> >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> >>> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 22:40:37 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 17:40:37 -0500 Subject: extracting audio from video files In-Reply-To: References: <71F72ADF-BB9C-4A8C-938A-201949DB90D3@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have Mpeg STream Clip. I am able to get to the main track, but not the languages. How do I do that so I can get the movie playing with the right track to export? Also, what are the unlabeled buttons? I can sort of figure out the Play button, but not sure. I want to lable them if I can. Jane On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Use mpeg stream clip to save them as something. I use a batch convertion to do that. I save them as aif and then use amadeus to convert them to mp3. > > Take care. > On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Jane wrote: > >> How can I get audio from .m4v files I have that includes audio description? Have a few DVDs ripped with audio description included, but I can't seem to get that track to export along with the main movie if I use QuickTime to Export as audio. Anyone know how I can do this? >> >> Yes, I know I can just sync the movies over to the iPad, but I want to be able to listen to the audio anywhere, and besides it's smaller than the movie. >> >> Jane >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 23:39:13 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:39:13 -0800 Subject: extracting audio from video files In-Reply-To: References: <71F72ADF-BB9C-4A8C-938A-201949DB90D3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0369731C-AD3C-4661-B461-E6D05461E19F@gmail.com> just go to file and then export audio. you should be good to go from there. It will export the whole thing to what ever format you choose. I used handbreak to rip the dve in to the approprate language then mpeg stream clip to extract the audio. On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Jane wrote: > I have Mpeg STream Clip. I am able to get to the main track, but not the languages. How do I do that so I can get the movie playing with the right track to export? > > Also, what are the unlabeled buttons? I can sort of figure out the Play button, but not sure. I want to lable them if I can. > > Jane > > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Use mpeg stream clip to save them as something. I use a batch convertion to do that. I save them as aif and then use amadeus to convert them to mp3. >> >> Take care. >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Jane wrote: >> >>> How can I get audio from .m4v files I have that includes audio description? Have a few DVDs ripped with audio description included, but I can't seem to get that track to export along with the main movie if I use QuickTime to Export as audio. Anyone know how I can do this? >>> >>> Yes, I know I can just sync the movies over to the iPad, but I want to be able to listen to the audio anywhere, and besides it's smaller than the movie. >>> >>> Jane >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 23:39:44 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:39:44 -0800 Subject: voice over question. In-Reply-To: References: <38B10D12-612F-46D1-81E8-0C6C5E53FEF0@gmail.com> <8E5F6F58-C651-41C8-BA2E-05B5106EAEE4@speedpost.net> <72E5B651-B822-4F49-AE8E-0EB14EB20F36@gmail.com> <46C68CE1-BEAF-414D-B93A-0C017B096C9F@mac-access.net> <26A1E5AF-A48A-4E64-98A8-71F591D1FED6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Oh good! tha'ts very good news to hear. On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > Count this to be sort of a mini victory... In a follow-up call I > received earlier this week from the senior tech support person at > Apple, she acknoleged that their engineers were able to reproduce my > problem when they attempted to run a mac without a monitor > Furthermore, she told me they would try and work that into a future > update. Too bad 10.7.3 came out that same day so I'm sure it would be > a while now. But at least they recognize that the problem exists and > willingness to fix it. > > On 1/30/12, Steve Holmes wrote: >> I wondered the same thing. I might actually try that this evening and >> see what happens. That plug reminds me more of an USB connecter >> however. Still anything's worth a try. I just don't wanna have to >> shell out more bucs just fake out the Mini. I really think Apple >> should fix this situation so that a monitor would not be required for >> anything except for using the mac without VoiceOver. >> >> On 1/30/12, Diane Bomar wrote: >>> For those having this problem, have you tried connecting the small >>> monitor >>> cable that comes with the Mac Mini? It might be a Thunderbolt cable, I am >>> not sure, but, would be interested to know if just attaching the cable >>> would >>> work for you. I am not experiencing these problems. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "matthew Dyer" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:46 AM >>> Subject: Re: voice over question. >>> >>> >>>> Oh ok. I found a monitor for 20 bucks which I am waiting to be shipped. >>>> There is a device thatt will trick the mac mioni into thinking there is >>>> one, but don't know what is called >>>> >>>> Matthew >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's interesting. I asked several people in the Apple stores this >>>>> very >>>>> >>>>> question and they probably thought it a crazy idea but once they >>>>> realized >>>>> >>>>> I was gonna use VO, they didn't think there would be any problem with >>>>> that. >>>>> Any ideas on how to "trick" the mini into seeing a monitor? >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:44 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is probably your issue than. I know Apple support will say you >>>>>> can run a Mini without a monitor, but there have been several reports >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>>>>> the contrary, including my own personal experience. You need to use a >>>>>> monitor or trick the Mini into thinking it has a monitor connected. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take Care >>>>>> John Panarese >>>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Interesting question. No, I do not have a monitor connected. I went >>>>>>> the cheap route here and chose to save $300 or so by not buying one. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wouldn't think that should affect this but who knows. I think I will >>>>>>> update the Apple tech support staff that I don't have a monitor >>>>>>> connected. I would be quite interested in this issue for sure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the possible idea. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>>>> This may seem an odd question, but do you have a monitor connected >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> your mac mini? I think I recall reading on this list that not having >>>>>>>> one can lead to a number of strange preference-saving issues. >>>>>>>> Voiceover should indeed be turned on automatically, as it does on my >>>>>>>> MBP. >>>>>>>> Yours, >>>>>>>> Zack. >>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't exactly have this issue but I am having another issue with >>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> new mac mini. I have my login options set to start VO >>>>>>>>> automatically >>>>>>>>> at the login prompt and that part works fine. But after I complete >>>>>>>>> login by entering my password, I then have to turn VO back on with >>>>>>>>> Command+F5 every time. I also confirm in system preferences that >>>>>>>>> VO >>>>>>>>> is indeed set on. Isn't VOsupposed to start up automatically after >>>>>>>>> logging in? Apple tech support seems to be stumped on this one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Michael Fridey wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> hi guys is people having same problem as me I am finding my >>>>>>>>>> setting >>>>>>>>>> in vo to speek greeting wen macbook loads up. >>>>>>>>>> It is checked wen I shut down but wen i turn macbook on and it >>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>> not talk I go in and find the check box is unchecked. >>>>>>>>>> cheers Michael. >>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the >>>>>>>>>> Mac-Access >>>>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>>>>>>> Trojan, >>>>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! 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>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum >>>>> >>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus >>>>> >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting >>>> >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 23:42:07 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:42:07 -0500 Subject: extracting audio from video files In-Reply-To: <0369731C-AD3C-4661-B461-E6D05461E19F@gmail.com> References: <71F72ADF-BB9C-4A8C-938A-201949DB90D3@gmail.com> <0369731C-AD3C-4661-B461-E6D05461E19F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Oh I could never manage that. I could only manage to get all tracks so all the languages are there. Hmmm. Jane On Feb 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > just go to file and then export audio. you should be good to go from there. It will export the whole thing to what ever format you choose. > > I used handbreak to rip the dve in to the approprate language then mpeg stream clip to extract the audio. > On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Jane wrote: > >> I have Mpeg STream Clip. I am able to get to the main track, but not the languages. How do I do that so I can get the movie playing with the right track to export? >> >> Also, what are the unlabeled buttons? I can sort of figure out the Play button, but not sure. I want to lable them if I can. >> >> Jane >> >> >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Use mpeg stream clip to save them as something. I use a batch convertion to do that. I save them as aif and then use amadeus to convert them to mp3. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Jane wrote: >>> >>>> How can I get audio from .m4v files I have that includes audio description? Have a few DVDs ripped with audio description included, but I can't seem to get that track to export along with the main movie if I use QuickTime to Export as audio. Anyone know how I can do this? >>>> >>>> Yes, I know I can just sync the movies over to the iPad, but I want to be able to listen to the audio anywhere, and besides it's smaller than the movie. >>>> >>>> Jane >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 00:03:18 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 16:03:18 -0800 Subject: extracting audio from video files In-Reply-To: References: <71F72ADF-BB9C-4A8C-938A-201949DB90D3@gmail.com> <0369731C-AD3C-4661-B461-E6D05461E19F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Oops? Ok. use handbreak to extract from the dvd if you still have it. you should be able to extract your language you want. I hope that somewhat helps. Take care. On Feb 3, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Jane wrote: > Oh I could never manage that. I could only manage to get all tracks so all the languages are there. Hmmm. > > Jane > > > > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> just go to file and then export audio. you should be good to go from there. It will export the whole thing to what ever format you choose. >> >> I used handbreak to rip the dve in to the approprate language then mpeg stream clip to extract the audio. >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Jane wrote: >> >>> I have Mpeg STream Clip. I am able to get to the main track, but not the languages. How do I do that so I can get the movie playing with the right track to export? >>> >>> Also, what are the unlabeled buttons? I can sort of figure out the Play button, but not sure. I want to lable them if I can. >>> >>> Jane >>> >>> >>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Use mpeg stream clip to save them as something. I use a batch convertion to do that. I save them as aif and then use amadeus to convert them to mp3. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Jane wrote: >>>> >>>>> How can I get audio from .m4v files I have that includes audio description? Have a few DVDs ripped with audio description included, but I can't seem to get that track to export along with the main movie if I use QuickTime to Export as audio. Anyone know how I can do this? >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I know I can just sync the movies over to the iPad, but I want to be able to listen to the audio anywhere, and besides it's smaller than the movie. >>>>> >>>>> Jane >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 01:18:04 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 20:18:04 -0500 Subject: extracting audio from video files In-Reply-To: References: <71F72ADF-BB9C-4A8C-938A-201949DB90D3@gmail.com> <0369731C-AD3C-4661-B461-E6D05461E19F@gmail.com> Message-ID: That's kind of hard for some, but possible for others. Hmmm. Jane On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Oops? Ok. use handbreak to extract from the dvd if you still have it. you should be able to extract your language you want. I hope that somewhat helps. > > Take care. > On Feb 3, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Jane wrote: > >> Oh I could never manage that. I could only manage to get all tracks so all the languages are there. Hmmm. >> >> Jane >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> just go to file and then export audio. you should be good to go from there. It will export the whole thing to what ever format you choose. >>> >>> I used handbreak to rip the dve in to the approprate language then mpeg stream clip to extract the audio. >>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Jane wrote: >>> >>>> I have Mpeg STream Clip. I am able to get to the main track, but not the languages. How do I do that so I can get the movie playing with the right track to export? >>>> >>>> Also, what are the unlabeled buttons? I can sort of figure out the Play button, but not sure. I want to lable them if I can. >>>> >>>> Jane >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Use mpeg stream clip to save them as something. I use a batch convertion to do that. I save them as aif and then use amadeus to convert them to mp3. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Jane wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How can I get audio from .m4v files I have that includes audio description? Have a few DVDs ripped with audio description included, but I can't seem to get that track to export along with the main movie if I use QuickTime to Export as audio. Anyone know how I can do this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I know I can just sync the movies over to the iPad, but I want to be able to listen to the audio anywhere, and besides it's smaller than the movie. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jane >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sat Feb 4 05:58:36 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 00:58:36 -0500 Subject: extracting audio from video files In-Reply-To: <71F72ADF-BB9C-4A8C-938A-201949DB90D3@gmail.com> References: <71F72ADF-BB9C-4A8C-938A-201949DB90D3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <10A28EF6-CEA2-40F1-B607-F24023DF5CBA@softcon.com> If you have the program dvd remaster, it allows you to extract just the audio track from a dvd, so you don't have to extract the whole movie, then pull the sound out of that. It works pretty well. It isn't real cheap, but for it's feature set, it's well worth the 60 or so bucks they're asking (of course, I could be remembering the price wrong, it's been a while since I registered my copy). There's both a regular and a pro version if I remember correctly, I got the pro, just because after looking at the differences, I thought it was worth the extra funds, but again, it's been a while, so don't remember what made me choose that option. :) Guess I could go look, but that would take the fun out of it. From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 10:08:35 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 21:08:35 +1100 Subject: Help with Ical In-Reply-To: References: <6630309261504895040@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <000601cce324$fffbed90$fff3c8b0$@com> Thanks for your help on ical. I have followed your suggestions and I now am able to navigate around ical quiet well. I have one question which is where do I find view by month. I went into preferences and found how to do it by week or day not by month. I hope you can help. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 2:55 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Help with Ical Hello Margaret, I am running the latest version of Mac OS 10.7 (Lion). I have set iCal up to only have a single calendar and have checked the box saying "show event times" in calendar preferences. I use the view by month. I can use the Tab key to move forwards through calendar entries in chronological order and Shift+Tab to move backwards in chronological order (that only works correctly if you only have a single calendar). I avoid all day events as these are shown out of sequence using the tab key. Instead I show the all day event as starting at 07:00 and ending at 23:00. I also avoid having a separate birthdays calendar for the same reason. At the end of the month I press command+right_arrow to got to the next month. The easiest way to add an iCal event is to press command+n to create a new event and then type something like.... Dinner with Ken 23 February 19:30 to 23:30 and then press Enter. This will bring up a short dialogue with one line titled "event details" and a line "delete" and a line "done". If its just a simple one off event just move the Vo cursor to the "done" button and press that button. If its complicated like a repeating event interact with "event details" and enter the repeat pattern. then stop interacting with "event details" and press the "done" button as above. iCal works very nicely for me this way and is very easy to use. I have several complicated repeating events like one which alternates between the second tuesday of one month and the second Wednesday of the next month. I can tell you how to do this if it is not obvious. I use iCloud to replicate with the calendar on my iPhone. On my iPhone I use the list view which then shows the events in chronological order. Hope this helps. Please get back to me if you need more. Best wishes.... Paul Hopewell <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Feb 4 10:18:11 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 10:18:11 +0000 Subject: Help with Ical In-Reply-To: <000601cce324$fffbed90$fff3c8b0$@com> References: <6630309261504895040@unknownmsgid> <000601cce324$fffbed90$fff3c8b0$@com> Message-ID: <8605F837-11A2-4F5D-9691-425F5A185244@hopewell.org.uk> Margaret, Go to the View menu on the iCal menu bar. You will see view by month there. Alternatively use the shortcut command+3. All the best.... Paul Hopewell On 4 Feb 2012, at 10:08, Margaret Booth wrote: > Thanks for your help on ical. I have followed your suggestions and I now am > able to navigate around ical quiet well. I have one question which is where > do I find view by month. I went into preferences and found how to do it by > week or day not by month. I hope you can help. > > Margaret > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell > Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 2:55 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Help with Ical > > Hello Margaret, > I am running the latest version of Mac OS 10.7 (Lion). I have set iCal up to > only have a single calendar and have checked the box saying "show event > times" in calendar preferences. I use the view by month. I can use the Tab > key to move forwards through calendar entries in chronological order and > Shift+Tab to move backwards in chronological order (that only works > correctly if you only have a single calendar). I avoid all day events as > these are shown out of sequence using the tab key. Instead I show the all > day event as starting at 07:00 and ending at 23:00. I also avoid having a > separate birthdays calendar for the same reason. At the end of the month I > press command+right_arrow to got to the next month. > > The easiest way to add an iCal event is to press command+n to create a new > event and then type something like.... > > Dinner with Ken 23 February 19:30 to 23:30 > > and then press Enter. This will bring up a short dialogue with one line > titled "event details" and a line "delete" and a line "done". If its just a > simple one off event just move the Vo cursor to the "done" button and press > that button. If its complicated like a repeating event interact with "event > details" and enter the repeat pattern. then stop interacting with "event > details" and press the "done" button as above. > > iCal works very nicely for me this way and is very easy to use. I have > several complicated repeating events like one which alternates between the > second tuesday of one month and the second Wednesday of the next month. I > can tell you how to do this if it is not obvious. I use iCloud to replicate > with the calendar on my iPhone. On my iPhone I use the list view which then > shows the events in chronological order. > > Hope this helps. Please get back to me if you need more. > Best wishes.... > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 12:09:43 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 23:09:43 +1100 Subject: Recommending between pages and nisus writer pro Message-ID: <-5143026571787978474@unknownmsgid> I am about to start a course and I need a good word processor so I can type up documents. I am looking at pages and nisus writer pro which one do people on the list recommend. I want one that is easy to use and has shortcut keys to get to different areas in the document. Thanks! Margaret Sent from my iPhone From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 12:23:33 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 23:23:33 +1100 Subject: making play lists and downloading music into itunes Message-ID: <6524506410979699391@unknownmsgid> How do I download my music that I have in a folders on my external hard drive and on my Mac into Itunes? Also how do I create play lists in iTunes and how do I delete any songs or albums that I don't want any more? Thanks Margaret Sent from my iPhone From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Feb 4 12:53:08 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:53:08 +0000 Subject: markers in Amadeus Pro Message-ID: <99DF7077-49CE-4D9A-9B99-8DBD6D826A75@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, Is there any way for a VoiceOver user of Amadeus Pro to do the following: - find out what markers exist for a track - go to a specific named marker and start playing at that point - locate and delete an unwanted named marker - move a named marker slightly so that it is in the correct place. I am trying to edit some music. I have hopefully placed markers in the approximate position indicating the start of various music sections. I would like to start playback at each of these markers to determine that they are in the correct place and if not I would like to move them a bit while retaining their names. Is it possible to do this using VoiceOver? many thanks. Paul Hopewell From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 13:06:39 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 00:06:39 +1100 Subject: renaming files with mac? Message-ID: Hi Sorry guys but i have another question. I was trying to rename photos today and the only option i could find is make alias. I noticed that the orreginal file was kept. but if i click on the alias the photo would open. Is this the only way i can rename a file? is there a way to rename the actual file without keeping the origenal? thanks. another question i have is since my computer at home died and i don't have a good enough wireless connection to back up to the cloud. is there a programme out there that will let me back up my iphone? it doesn't have to be accessible as i have sighted help at the moment. mac or pc is fine. i can access a note book and my mac mini of course. thanks again. Maria and karly. From venables134 at btinternet.com Sat Feb 4 13:23:04 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 13:23:04 +0000 Subject: Recommending between pages and nisus writer pro In-Reply-To: <-5143026571787978474@unknownmsgid> References: <-5143026571787978474@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <443E3434-5400-484B-9135-1A4E47653D8F@btinternet.com> Hi Margaret, another word processor I would like to suggest for you to go and check out is called Bean. I don't know what you are wanting in your processor but I use this one for my college work and I have come to prefer it over pages and also it is free. Just google the name and try it out. If the worst comes to it, all you need do then is remove it from your apps folder. I hope this is helpful for you. Thanks Daniel On 4 Feb 2012, at 12:09, Margaret Booth wrote: > I am about to start a course and I need a good word processor so I can > type up documents. I am looking at pages and nisus writer pro which > one do people on the list recommend. I want one that is easy to use > and has shortcut keys to get to different areas in the document. > > Thanks! > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From caitlyn.furness at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 13:42:12 2012 From: caitlyn.furness at gmail.com (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 08:42:12 -0500 Subject: renaming files with mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42D89338-25D5-4B4D-AB12-3EF8933BB486@gmail.com> About renaming files, all you have to do is hit enter/return and type the new name and viola, it's done. hth, Caitlyn ps-I don't know about the back up question, sorry. On Feb 4, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: > Hi Sorry guys but i have another question. I was trying to rename photos today and the only option i could find is make alias. I noticed that the orreginal file was kept. but if i click on the alias the photo would open. Is this the only way i can rename a file? is there a way to rename the actual file without keeping the origenal? > > thanks. > > another question i have is since my computer at home died and i don't have a good enough wireless connection to back up to the cloud. is there a programme out there that will let me back up my iphone? it doesn't have to be accessible as i have sighted help at the moment. > > mac or pc is fine. i can access a note book and my mac mini of course. > > thanks > again. > Maria and karly. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Sat Feb 4 14:23:01 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:23:01 -0500 Subject: Backing up an iPhone [Was: Re: renaming files with mac?] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Maria, If I'm understanding your request, you want to back up your iPHone and you have a Mac Mini available. If that's the case you can connect your iPhone to your Mini using the USB cable that came with the iPhone. You can then launch iTunes if it doesn't launch automatically. iTunes should recognize your iPhone and it will appear under the list of devices in the sidebar. Use VO to navigate there, then press VO+Shift+M to open the contextual menu, arrow through the menu until you find "Back Up." Select that option and it will back up your IPhone. That's the short answer, but you might encounter some roadblocks depending on your settings, so I'd suggest consulting the following link to an Apple article detailing how to back up an iPhone using either iTunes or iCloud http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1766 HTH, Bryan On Feb 4, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: > another question i have is since my computer at home died and i don't have a good enough wireless connection to back up to the cloud. is there a programme out there that will let me back up my iphone? it doesn't have to be accessible as i have sighted help at the moment. > > mac or pc is fine. i can access a note book and my mac mini of course. From Mattchao at verizon.net Sat Feb 4 17:09:11 2012 From: Mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:09:11 -0500 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac Message-ID: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 17:37:01 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:37:01 -0800 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac In-Reply-To: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> Message-ID: The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but I've become proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate with out the use of keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at http://dlee.org/skype which allows me to do a lot more via the command line or terminal. Take care. On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. > > Matthew Chao > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 17:38:04 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:38:04 -0800 Subject: markers in Amadeus Pro In-Reply-To: <99DF7077-49CE-4D9A-9B99-8DBD6D826A75@hopewell.org.uk> References: <99DF7077-49CE-4D9A-9B99-8DBD6D826A75@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <082796FD-4896-46CB-A435-EB9A409AB901@gmail.com> Yep explore the marker window found under window. I dunno if you can move to a marker from there but you can atleast rename and adjust the time of said markers through there. Take care. On Feb 4, 2012, at 4:53 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > Is there any way for a VoiceOver user of Amadeus Pro to do the following: > - find out what markers exist for a track > - go to a specific named marker and start playing at that point > - locate and delete an unwanted named marker > - move a named marker slightly so that it is in the correct place. > > I am trying to edit some music. I have hopefully placed markers in the approximate position indicating the start of various music sections. I would like to start playback at each of these markers to determine that they are in the correct place and if not I would like to move them a bit while retaining their names. Is it possible to do this using VoiceOver? > many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 17:39:23 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:39:23 -0800 Subject: making play lists and downloading music into itunes In-Reply-To: <6524506410979699391@unknownmsgid> References: <6524506410979699391@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <0911987D-6E36-4606-9606-C66F250AD707@gmail.com> Hello. There are newmerious podcasts out thee that will help you with itunes. You don't download them actually from the folders you add them to the library wiht cmd O. Also you can hit cmd n to create a new playlist and then copy and paste the stuff from your library to said playlist and also from the finder as well. just make sure that copy is not on under advansed. Take care. On Feb 4, 2012, at 4:23 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > How do I download my music that I have in a folders on my external > hard drive and on my Mac into Itunes? Also how do I create play lists > in iTunes and how do I delete any songs or albums that I don't want > any more? > > Thanks > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 17:39:52 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:39:52 -0800 Subject: Help with Ical In-Reply-To: <000601cce324$fffbed90$fff3c8b0$@com> References: <6630309261504895040@unknownmsgid> <000601cce324$fffbed90$fff3c8b0$@com> Message-ID: go to the tool bar and go to the callender view switcher and choose month. On Feb 4, 2012, at 2:08 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > Thanks for your help on ical. I have followed your suggestions and I now am > able to navigate around ical quiet well. I have one question which is where > do I find view by month. I went into preferences and found how to do it by > week or day not by month. I hope you can help. > > Margaret > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell > Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 2:55 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Help with Ical > > Hello Margaret, > I am running the latest version of Mac OS 10.7 (Lion). I have set iCal up to > only have a single calendar and have checked the box saying "show event > times" in calendar preferences. I use the view by month. I can use the Tab > key to move forwards through calendar entries in chronological order and > Shift+Tab to move backwards in chronological order (that only works > correctly if you only have a single calendar). I avoid all day events as > these are shown out of sequence using the tab key. Instead I show the all > day event as starting at 07:00 and ending at 23:00. I also avoid having a > separate birthdays calendar for the same reason. At the end of the month I > press command+right_arrow to got to the next month. > > The easiest way to add an iCal event is to press command+n to create a new > event and then type something like.... > > Dinner with Ken 23 February 19:30 to 23:30 > > and then press Enter. This will bring up a short dialogue with one line > titled "event details" and a line "delete" and a line "done". If its just a > simple one off event just move the Vo cursor to the "done" button and press > that button. If its complicated like a repeating event interact with "event > details" and enter the repeat pattern. then stop interacting with "event > details" and press the "done" button as above. > > iCal works very nicely for me this way and is very easy to use. I have > several complicated repeating events like one which alternates between the > second tuesday of one month and the second Wednesday of the next month. I > can tell you how to do this if it is not obvious. I use iCloud to replicate > with the calendar on my iPhone. On my iPhone I use the list view which then > shows the events in chronological order. > > Hope this helps. Please get back to me if you need more. > Best wishes.... > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From Mattchao at verizon.net Sat Feb 4 17:47:53 2012 From: Mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:47:53 -0500 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> Message-ID: Hi, Sarah. How do I use the menus, say, to call a person as compared to using the Dialpad button? For example, I have a Skype name I want to contact, but can't find the edit box in which to type in his name and hit Enter. Also, how do I hang up? Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but I've become proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate with out the use of keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at http://dlee.org/skype which allows me to do a lot more via the command line or terminal. > > Take care. > On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > >> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. >> >> Matthew Chao >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 19:11:56 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 11:11:56 -0800 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> Message-ID: Just control click or hit vo shift m on the name you want to call from your contacts list and then hit enter on call. There then is a interface for when you do make calls. I have a podcast on how to use skype 5 here. Give it a bit of time to upload though. link: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/a_look_at_skype_5_for_mac.mp3 On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Sarah. How do I use the menus, say, to call a person as compared to using the Dialpad button? For example, I have a Skype name I want to contact, but can't find the edit box in which to type in his name and hit Enter. Also, how do I hang up? > > Thanks in advance. > > Matthew Chao > > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but I've become proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate with out the use of keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at http://dlee.org/skype which allows me to do a lot more via the command line or terminal. >> >> Take care. >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >> >>> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Matthew Chao >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 19:12:43 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 11:12:43 -0800 Subject: Help with Ical In-Reply-To: <8605F837-11A2-4F5D-9691-425F5A185244@hopewell.org.uk> References: <6630309261504895040@unknownmsgid> <000601cce324$fffbed90$fff3c8b0$@com> <8605F837-11A2-4F5D-9691-425F5A185244@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <1D26EB0A-2C6A-44F6-9048-B672C2707F3C@gmail.com> lol. I'm so used to the tool bar I keep forgeting to look in the view menu or memorising shortcuts lol! thanks for that. On Feb 4, 2012, at 2:18 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Margaret, > Go to the View menu on the iCal menu bar. You will see view by month there. Alternatively use the shortcut command+3. > All the best.... > > Paul Hopewell > On 4 Feb 2012, at 10:08, Margaret Booth wrote: > >> Thanks for your help on ical. I have followed your suggestions and I now am >> able to navigate around ical quiet well. I have one question which is where >> do I find view by month. I went into preferences and found how to do it by >> week or day not by month. I hope you can help. >> >> Margaret >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell >> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 2:55 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Help with Ical >> >> Hello Margaret, >> I am running the latest version of Mac OS 10.7 (Lion). I have set iCal up to >> only have a single calendar and have checked the box saying "show event >> times" in calendar preferences. I use the view by month. I can use the Tab >> key to move forwards through calendar entries in chronological order and >> Shift+Tab to move backwards in chronological order (that only works >> correctly if you only have a single calendar). I avoid all day events as >> these are shown out of sequence using the tab key. Instead I show the all >> day event as starting at 07:00 and ending at 23:00. I also avoid having a >> separate birthdays calendar for the same reason. At the end of the month I >> press command+right_arrow to got to the next month. >> >> The easiest way to add an iCal event is to press command+n to create a new >> event and then type something like.... >> >> Dinner with Ken 23 February 19:30 to 23:30 >> >> and then press Enter. This will bring up a short dialogue with one line >> titled "event details" and a line "delete" and a line "done". If its just a >> simple one off event just move the Vo cursor to the "done" button and press >> that button. If its complicated like a repeating event interact with "event >> details" and enter the repeat pattern. then stop interacting with "event >> details" and press the "done" button as above. >> >> iCal works very nicely for me this way and is very easy to use. I have >> several complicated repeating events like one which alternates between the >> second tuesday of one month and the second Wednesday of the next month. I >> can tell you how to do this if it is not obvious. I use iCloud to replicate >> with the calendar on my iPhone. On my iPhone I use the list view which then >> shows the events in chronological order. >> >> Hope this helps. Please get back to me if you need more. >> Best wishes.... >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Feb 4 19:44:07 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 19:44:07 +0000 Subject: Video to MP3 thanks to Sarah Message-ID: Hi Sarah, Many thanks for your tip of using Amadeus to convert a large MP4 video file to a much smaller MP3 audio file. that works a treat and I can now listen to downloaded TV programs on my iPod in comfort rather than at my iMac. All the best.... Paul Hopewell From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sat Feb 4 19:44:44 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 19:44:44 -0000 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> Message-ID: Just curious - what keys do you press to get a control click on VO? -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: 04 February 2012 19:12 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac Just control click or hit vo shift m on the name you want to call from your contacts list and then hit enter on call. There then is a interface for when you do make calls. I have a podcast on how to use skype 5 here. Give it a bit of time to upload though. link: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/a_look_at_skype_5_for_mac.mp3 On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Sarah. How do I use the menus, say, to call a person as compared to using the Dialpad button? For example, I have a Skype name I want to contact, but can't find the edit box in which to type in his name and hit Enter. Also, how do I hang up? > > Thanks in advance. > > Matthew Chao > > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but I've become proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate with out the use of keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at http://dlee.org/skype which allows me to do a lot more via the command line or terminal. >> >> Take care. >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >> >>> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Matthew Chao >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 20:10:16 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:10:16 -0800 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> Message-ID: Vo shift m will do the trick once yu interact with the table or what not. Take care. On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:44 AM, David Griffith wrote: > Just curious - what keys do you press to get a control click on VO? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: 04 February 2012 19:12 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac > > Just control click or hit vo shift m on the name you want to call from your > contacts list and then hit enter on call. There then is a interface for > when you do make calls. I have a podcast on how to use skype 5 here. Give it > a bit of time to upload though. > > link: > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/a_look_at_skype_5_for_mac.mp3 > > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > >> Hi, Sarah. How do I use the menus, say, to call a person as compared to > using the Dialpad button? For example, I have a Skype name I want to > contact, but can't find the edit box in which to type in his name and hit > Enter. Also, how do I hang up? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Matthew Chao >> >> >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but I've become > proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate with out the use of > keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at http://dlee.org/skype which > allows me to do a lot more via the command line or terminal. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd > give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or > keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is > Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> Matthew Chao >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 20:10:59 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:10:59 -0800 Subject: Video to MP3 thanks to Sarah In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh! I've never used amadeus to do that. I'm glad it worked. Yeah i guess I was not thinking outside the box lol! Take care. On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Sarah, > Many thanks for your tip of using Amadeus to convert a large MP4 video file to a much smaller MP3 audio file. that works a treat and I can now listen to downloaded TV programs on my iPod in comfort rather than at my iMac. > All the best.... > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 20:13:16 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:13:16 -0500 Subject: Video to MP3 thanks to Sarah In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I might have missed some messages in this topic, but can this be done with movies bought from itunes as well as videos ripped from dvd? Thanks, Courtney On 04/02/2012, at 2:44 in the Afternoon, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Sarah, > Many thanks for your tip of using Amadeus to convert a large MP4 video file to a much smaller MP3 audio file. that works a treat and I can now listen to downloaded TV programs on my iPod in comfort rather than at my iMac. > All the best.... > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Feb 4 20:20:40 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 20:20:40 +0000 Subject: Video to MP3 thanks to Sarah In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Courtney, Fraid I have only used Amadeus Pro to convert TV programs downloaded from the BBC via get iplayer automator to MP3. It would certainly be worth trying it on other types of video. I don't have any downloaded movies or DVDs. Best wishes... Paul Hopewell On 4 Feb 2012, at 20:13, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I might have missed some messages in this topic, but can this be done with movies bought from itunes as well as videos ripped from dvd? > Thanks, > CourtneyHi > On 04/02/2012, at 2:44 in the Afternoon, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> Many thanks for your tip of using Amadeus to convert a large MP4 video file to a much smaller MP3 audio file. that works a treat and I can now listen to downloaded TV programs on my iPod in comfort rather than at my iMac. >> All the best.... >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sat Feb 4 20:39:30 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:39:30 -0500 Subject: Problem with Voxie and large files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Paul, I'm sorry I can't help you with the Voxie question as I have not used the app for some time now. I did notice you mention using the high quality recording option. Because I've been doing a lot of work lately with List Recorder I noticed it records up to 44 KHZ. Is that the same or better then Voxie? It was described as CD quality. Anyway if you can't get Voxie up and running and or if you want a higher level of recording you could consider this app. Voxie served me very well when I first got my iPhone but I stopped using it because I found it difficult to organize the many quick recordings I needed to make. One thing to be away of though is that List Recorder has a bug ever since iOS 5 that stops recording when the phone goes into locked mode. This will be fixed in the next release but in the meantime users have to set the phone to not lock when doing long recordings. Eric Caron On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I am using the Voxie sound recorder app on my iPhone 3GS running the latest IOS 5. I am recording my piano playing and so am using the high quality recording option (22 KBPS). This works fine for recordings of about 2 minutes or less, but if I try to record say 5 minutes Voxie does not want to stop recording and save the results. Even at 2 minutes Voxie does not immediately end the recording but instead seems to take half a minute or so to catch up and save the recording. this catch up time seems to grow substantially as the recording gets longer and at 5 minutes I not convinced Voxie will ever catch up. > > Do others see this problem? WOuld it be better on an iPhone 4S with its faster processor? Is there anything I can do other than record the piano piece in 2 minute sections and use Amadeus Pro to join them together after the event. that is tricky as it is more difficult to maintain the same rhythm across multiple short recording sections. > > Many thanks for any tips. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sat Feb 4 20:45:03 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:45:03 -0500 Subject: Navigating in Preview. In-Reply-To: References: <6D6DD949-E508-45CC-A0F2-3DD2827EB7AA@softcon.com> Message-ID: Hi Geoff, I have read PDF files on the iPhone in ibooks. Is that a option? Or is using the iPhone not a good option for reading this file? I'm pretty sure you have a iPhone as I believe I remember several helpful and several humorous posts you have made regarding its use. Best, I still find PDF reading on the Mac and on PC challenging. eric Caron On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Thanks to all who responded. I may buy Skim though its primary function seems to be features I don't care about. > > Travis stated that its not hard to get where you want to go, and that is a reasonable expectation. After hiding the tool bar it seemed to work better, but now when I quit interacting, and bring up the go to page dialog via command-option-g and interact immediately, my focus remains where ever I was previously. Page up/down also have no apparent affect. Reading this 900 page file one page at a time (toggling interacting every step) is not a viable option. > > If this is in fact "not hard", perhaps you can offer a suggestion? > > TIA and best regards. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Travis Siegel > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:28 PM > Subject: Re: Navigating in Preview. > > > If you're having trouble with previews continous view, try the single > page view instead. This will only allow one page at a time to be > vissible to vo, so that you won't be dropped back at the beginning of > the document. There's some tricks for staying where you want to be > in the preview app, but it's all dependent on whether or not you're > interacting, and how your cursors are set, and (apparently) sometimes > where the real cursor is. It's actually not hard to get where you > want to go, but it is a bit tricky, and takes timing sometimes (since > you need to catch vo before it starts reading from page 1, interact > with the text, then (usually) you're back where vo was, but > occasionally, this doesn't happen, so you get dropped back at the > start, which can be quite confusing, especially if you're new to > preview, and don't know how to move around. > But, if you turn on single page view, this problem goes away, with > the only caveat being that you can't read the whole pdf from start to > finish with a vo-a like you can if it's in cntinuous mode. > hth. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From Mattchao at verizon.net Sat Feb 4 20:54:56 2012 From: Mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:54:56 -0500 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> Message-ID: <0F21ED0C-B82F-41A8-B5D1-CF57D61EC01C@verizon.net> How do I hang up on a call? Matthew Chao On Feb 4, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Vo shift m will do the trick once yu interact with the table or what not. > > Take care. > On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:44 AM, David Griffith wrote: > >> Just curious - what keys do you press to get a control click on VO? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >> Sent: 04 February 2012 19:12 >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac >> >> Just control click or hit vo shift m on the name you want to call from your >> contacts list and then hit enter on call. There then is a interface for >> when you do make calls. I have a podcast on how to use skype 5 here. Give it >> a bit of time to upload though. >> >> link: >> >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/a_look_at_skype_5_for_mac.mp3 >> >> >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >> >>> Hi, Sarah. How do I use the menus, say, to call a person as compared to >> using the Dialpad button? For example, I have a Skype name I want to >> contact, but can't find the edit box in which to type in his name and hit >> Enter. Also, how do I hang up? >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Matthew Chao >>> >>> >>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but I've become >> proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate with out the use of >> keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at http://dlee.org/skype which >> allows me to do a lot more via the command line or terminal. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd >> give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or >> keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is >> Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. >>>>> >>>>> Matthew Chao >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 21:10:11 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 13:10:11 -0800 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac In-Reply-To: <0F21ED0C-B82F-41A8-B5D1-CF57D61EC01C@verizon.net> References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> <0F21ED0C-B82F-41A8-B5D1-CF57D61EC01C@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4CD95512-5EF0-4B87-820C-7E9AF6DD6AE3@gmail.com> I actually answered that in my first message on this thread, I think. but if I forgot it's cmd shift h to hang up a call. Most of the time it works but sometimes it does not. On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > How do I hang up on a call? > > Matthew Chao > > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Vo shift m will do the trick once yu interact with the table or what not. >> >> Take care. >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:44 AM, David Griffith wrote: >> >>> Just curious - what keys do you press to get a control click on VO? >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>> Sent: 04 February 2012 19:12 >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac >>> >>> Just control click or hit vo shift m on the name you want to call from your >>> contacts list and then hit enter on call. There then is a interface for >>> when you do make calls. I have a podcast on how to use skype 5 here. Give it >>> a bit of time to upload though. >>> >>> link: >>> >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/a_look_at_skype_5_for_mac.mp3 >>> >>> >>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Sarah. How do I use the menus, say, to call a person as compared to >>> using the Dialpad button? For example, I have a Skype name I want to >>> contact, but can't find the edit box in which to type in his name and hit >>> Enter. Also, how do I hang up? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> Matthew Chao >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but I've become >>> proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate with out the use of >>> keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at http://dlee.org/skype which >>> allows me to do a lot more via the command line or terminal. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd >>> give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or >>> keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is >>> Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Matthew Chao >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sat Feb 4 21:35:00 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:35:00 +0000 Subject: skype notifications Message-ID: <4f2da105.8649b40a.70aa.ffffad40@mx.google.com> i am using the latest version of skype. am i best setting the popup button under preferences and notifications to contact is available from the list of buttons? i wonder if this has been my problem as regards monitoring when my contacts are on-line etc. From Mattchao at verizon.net Sat Feb 4 21:28:29 2012 From: Mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:28:29 -0500 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac In-Reply-To: <4CD95512-5EF0-4B87-820C-7E9AF6DD6AE3@gmail.com> References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> <0F21ED0C-B82F-41A8-B5D1-CF57D61EC01C@verizon.net> <4CD95512-5EF0-4B87-820C-7E9AF6DD6AE3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <234A9C5B-582D-4E14-9BB3-F309501AB779@verizon.net> Hi, Sarah. No, didn't see the Shift-command-h for hang-up. However, thanks. Also, is there a way I can type in a person's Skype name in Skype directly? Matthew Chao P.S. What' the link for that command-line file? Sorry for all the questions, but I am lucky if I have time to get on my Mac once a week due to work. Can't bring my Mac there. On Feb 4, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I actually answered that in my first message on this thread, I think. but if I forgot it's cmd shift h to hang up a call. Most of the time it works but sometimes it does not. > On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > >> How do I hang up on a call? >> >> Matthew Chao >> >> >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Vo shift m will do the trick once yu interact with the table or what not. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:44 AM, David Griffith wrote: >>> >>>> Just curious - what keys do you press to get a control click on VO? >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>>> Sent: 04 February 2012 19:12 >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac >>>> >>>> Just control click or hit vo shift m on the name you want to call from your >>>> contacts list and then hit enter on call. There then is a interface for >>>> when you do make calls. I have a podcast on how to use skype 5 here. Give it >>>> a bit of time to upload though. >>>> >>>> link: >>>> >>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/a_look_at_skype_5_for_mac.mp3 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Sarah. How do I use the menus, say, to call a person as compared to >>>> using the Dialpad button? For example, I have a Skype name I want to >>>> contact, but can't find the edit box in which to type in his name and hit >>>> Enter. Also, how do I hang up? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>> >>>>> Matthew Chao >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but I've become >>>> proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate with out the use of >>>> keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at http://dlee.org/skype which >>>> allows me to do a lot more via the command line or terminal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care. >>>>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd >>>> give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or >>>> keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is >>>> Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Matthew Chao >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Feb 4 21:31:11 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 21:31:11 +0000 Subject: Navigating in Preview. In-Reply-To: References: <6D6DD949-E508-45CC-A0F2-3DD2827EB7AA@softcon.com> Message-ID: <3F7A9AC9-5723-4310-9A3F-4878229D3C59@mac-access.net> Fileapp is also a good choice for reading PDFs on the iPhone. Interestingly, although Skim is touted to be a better PDF reader than Preview, for some reason, if you are reading in "single page" view, when you move to a new page in Skim, VoiceOver does not start reading from the top of the page when reading manually with the VO keys. You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 4 Feb 2012, at 20:45, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Geoff, > > I have read PDF files on the iPhone in ibooks. Is that a option? Or is using the iPhone not a good option for reading this file? I'm pretty sure you have a iPhone as I believe I remember several helpful and several humorous posts you have made regarding its use. > > Best, > I still find PDF reading on the Mac and on PC challenging. > > > > eric Caron > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Thanks to all who responded. I may buy Skim though its primary function seems to be features I don't care about. >> >> Travis stated that its not hard to get where you want to go, and that is a reasonable expectation. After hiding the tool bar it seemed to work better, but now when I quit interacting, and bring up the go to page dialog via command-option-g and interact immediately, my focus remains where ever I was previously. Page up/down also have no apparent affect. Reading this 900 page file one page at a time (toggling interacting every step) is not a viable option. >> >> If this is in fact "not hard", perhaps you can offer a suggestion? >> >> TIA and best regards. >> Geoff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Travis Siegel >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:28 PM >> Subject: Re: Navigating in Preview. >> >> >> If you're having trouble with previews continous view, try the single >> page view instead. This will only allow one page at a time to be >> vissible to vo, so that you won't be dropped back at the beginning of >> the document. There's some tricks for staying where you want to be >> in the preview app, but it's all dependent on whether or not you're >> interacting, and how your cursors are set, and (apparently) sometimes >> where the real cursor is. It's actually not hard to get where you >> want to go, but it is a bit tricky, and takes timing sometimes (since >> you need to catch vo before it starts reading from page 1, interact >> with the text, then (usually) you're back where vo was, but >> occasionally, this doesn't happen, so you get dropped back at the >> start, which can be quite confusing, especially if you're new to >> preview, and don't know how to move around. >> But, if you turn on single page view, this problem goes away, with >> the only caveat being that you can't read the whole pdf from start to >> finish with a vo-a like you can if it's in cntinuous mode. >> hth. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 22:38:28 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 14:38:28 -0800 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac In-Reply-To: <234A9C5B-582D-4E14-9BB3-F309501AB779@verizon.net> References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> <0F21ED0C-B82F-41A8-B5D1-CF57D61EC01C@verizon.net> <4CD95512-5EF0-4B87-820C-7E9AF6DD6AE3@gmail.com> <234A9C5B-582D-4E14-9BB3-F309501AB779@verizon.net> Message-ID: <9A5FB09D-76BA-42DA-9466-6DF9FC6E69FD@gmail.com> I gave the link in an earlier post to clisk. htp://dlee.org/skype and click on the clisk link. YOu will see something about command line interface for skype. I'm not sure if you can type the name of a skype id that is not in your contacts to call. If you can I have not found a way to do this. On Feb 4, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Sarah. No, didn't see the Shift-command-h for hang-up. However, thanks. Also, is there a way I can type in a person's Skype name in Skype directly? > > Matthew Chao > > P.S. What' the link for that command-line file? Sorry for all the questions, but I am lucky if I have time to get on my Mac once a week due to work. Can't bring my Mac there. > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I actually answered that in my first message on this thread, I think. but if I forgot it's cmd shift h to hang up a call. Most of the time it works but sometimes it does not. >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: >> >>> How do I hang up on a call? >>> >>> Matthew Chao >>> >>> >>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Vo shift m will do the trick once yu interact with the table or what not. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:44 AM, David Griffith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just curious - what keys do you press to get a control click on VO? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>>>> Sent: 04 February 2012 19:12 >>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Re: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac >>>>> >>>>> Just control click or hit vo shift m on the name you want to call from your >>>>> contacts list and then hit enter on call. There then is a interface for >>>>> when you do make calls. I have a podcast on how to use skype 5 here. Give it >>>>> a bit of time to upload though. >>>>> >>>>> link: >>>>> >>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/a_look_at_skype_5_for_mac.mp3 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, Sarah. How do I use the menus, say, to call a person as compared to >>>>> using the Dialpad button? For example, I have a Skype name I want to >>>>> contact, but can't find the edit box in which to type in his name and hit >>>>> Enter. Also, how do I hang up? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Matthew Chao >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but I've become >>>>> proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate with out the use of >>>>> keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at http://dlee.org/skype which >>>>> allows me to do a lot more via the command line or terminal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd >>>>> give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or >>>>> keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is >>>>> Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Matthew Chao >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>> the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ilovecountrymusic483 at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 00:18:42 2012 From: ilovecountrymusic483 at gmail.com (matthew Dyer) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 19:18:42 -0500 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1D7FDF81-BBDE-48E3-83BE-C36CBC8FF8E7@gmail.com> Hi, To hang up is command shift h. If you want to call someone in particular just start typing a name in the contact list and it will start a search and then do a vo shift m and select call and press enter. Matthew On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Sarah. How do I use the menus, say, to call a person as compared to using the Dialpad button? For example, I have a Skype name I want to contact, but can't find the edit box in which to type in his name and hit Enter. Also, how do I hang up? > > Thanks in advance. > > Matthew Chao > > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but I've become proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate with out the use of keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at http://dlee.org/skype which allows me to do a lot more via the command line or terminal. >> >> Take care. >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >> >>> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Matthew Chao >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 00:29:53 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 16:29:53 -0800 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac In-Reply-To: <1D7FDF81-BBDE-48E3-83BE-C36CBC8FF8E7@gmail.com> References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> <1D7FDF81-BBDE-48E3-83BE-C36CBC8FF8E7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <31C560A0-8772-4471-97C9-2B1F39944BD0@gmail.com> I think though he wanted to know if you could call someone who is no tin yoru contacts by typing in there skype id. I don't see a way to do it in the version of skype I'm running which is 5. Take care. On Feb 4, 2012, at 4:18 PM, matthew Dyer wrote: > Hi, > > To hang up is command shift h. If you want to call someone in particular just start typing a name in the contact list and it will start a search and then do a vo shift m and select call and press enter. > > Matthew > > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > >> Hi, Sarah. How do I use the menus, say, to call a person as compared to using the Dialpad button? For example, I have a Skype name I want to contact, but can't find the edit box in which to type in his name and hit Enter. Also, how do I hang up? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Matthew Chao >> >> >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but I've become proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate with out the use of keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at http://dlee.org/skype which allows me to do a lot more via the command line or terminal. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> Matthew Chao >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 00:30:42 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 16:30:42 -0800 Subject: skype notifications In-Reply-To: <4f2da105.8649b40a.70aa.ffffad40@mx.google.com> References: <4f2da105.8649b40a.70aa.ffffad40@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5B114A43-6C87-41BF-A5F9-B6D6F7311E3D@gmail.com> Yep that's the way to do it. Available is online, or I think also away. I can't remember but I think availiable is online. Take care. On Feb 4, 2012, at 1:35 PM, michael weaver wrote: > i am using the latest version of skype. > am i best setting the popup button under preferences and notifications to contact is available from the list of buttons? > i wonder if this has been my problem as regards monitoring when my contacts are on-line etc. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 05:26:00 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 16:26:00 +1100 Subject: editing playlists In-Reply-To: <9A3191FB-F19A-45A0-AED2-6FE1A45E0E68@gmail.com> References: <583F472A-F876-42AC-9E63-DD73C6C45E14@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <9A3191FB-F19A-45A0-AED2-6FE1A45E0E68@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601cce3c6$a82ef060$f88cd120$@com> Where is the LCD section? Argaret -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2012 4:58 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: editing playlists go to the lcd section and hit show next view until you get to the name of the track view. then go to current song button and hit it and you will be placed there. I've used this many times on a 70 track playlist while I'm on air. Take care, On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: > Hello all, > > I want to be able to remove songs from a playlist while it is playing. > > I have > playlists set to shuffle and want to be able to get the vo cursor to the track now playing so I can edit it. > > Can anyone help? > > cheers > Ian > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 05:50:28 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 21:50:28 -0800 Subject: editing playlists In-Reply-To: <000601cce3c6$a82ef060$f88cd120$@com> References: <583F472A-F876-42AC-9E63-DD73C6C45E14@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <9A3191FB-F19A-45A0-AED2-6FE1A45E0E68@gmail.com> <000601cce3c6$a82ef060$f88cd120$@com> Message-ID: <3F6702F4-93C5-4EA3-8AC9-21FF4E9F890A@gmail.com> It's right by the volume control. I don't know where it is physically on the screen but it's after the volume controls. Take care. On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > Where is the LCD section? > > Argaret > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2012 4:58 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: editing playlists > > go to the lcd section and hit show next view until you get to the name of > the track view. then go to current song button and hit it and you will be > placed there. I've used this many times on a 70 track playlist while I'm on > air. > > Take care, > On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I want to be able to remove songs from a playlist while it is playing. >> >> I have >> playlists set to shuffle and want to be able to get the vo cursor to the > track now playing so I can edit it. >> >> Can anyone help? >> >> cheers >> Ian >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 5 06:06:00 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:06:00 -1000 Subject: editing playlists In-Reply-To: <3F6702F4-93C5-4EA3-8AC9-21FF4E9F890A@gmail.com> References: <583F472A-F876-42AC-9E63-DD73C6C45E14@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <9A3191FB-F19A-45A0-AED2-6FE1A45E0E68@gmail.com> <000601cce3c6$a82ef060$f88cd120$@com> <3F6702F4-93C5-4EA3-8AC9-21FF4E9F890A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Margaret, You can also navigate to the LCD section by starting from the search text (Command-Option-F keyboard shortcut to go there), and then doing a VO-Left arrow twice (or Left arrow twice with QuickNav on, or flick left twice with TrackPad Commander on). If you interact with the LCD section you get detailed information about the currently playing track. Sarah, as another way of answering Ian's question, I thought that you could always press Command-L to go to the currently playing track in the songs table. If you started playing it from a playlist, you'd get the other song tracks in that playlist showing up in the songs table, the original playlist you selected would be highlighted in the sources table, and you would be able to edit the playlist contents in the songs table. Does this not also work? HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 4, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > It's right by the volume control. I don't know where it is physically on the screen but it's after the volume controls. > > Take care. > On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > >> Where is the LCD section? >> >> Argaret >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >> Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2012 4:58 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: editing playlists >> >> go to the lcd section and hit show next view until you get to the name of >> the track view. then go to current song button and hit it and you will be >> placed there. I've used this many times on a 70 track playlist while I'm on >> air. >> >> Take care, >> On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I want to be able to remove songs from a playlist while it is playing. >>> >>> I have >>> playlists set to shuffle and want to be able to get the vo cursor to the >> track now playing so I can edit it. >>> >>> Can anyone help? >>> >>> cheers >>> Ian >>> >> From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 07:05:45 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 02:05:45 -0500 Subject: iBooks and punctuation -> was Navigating in Preview. References: <6D6DD949-E508-45CC-A0F2-3DD2827EB7AA@softcon.com> <3F7A9AC9-5723-4310-9A3F-4878229D3C59@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <282F9CA97B15461AA03E39550859F075@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Eric, James and others, Using iBooks would be an excellent suggestion, especially if there is a setting in VoiceOver and/or iBooks that I'm missing. While using the two finger swipe down gesture to read "take control of the command line" in epub format, it was often necessary to ascertain the exact text or punctuation. In read-all mode I could not find a way to have voiceover say all punctuation, which would have made things more understandable when items with vowels were pronounced as words. The only way to really know the exact syntax was to stop VO, and move via word or character navigation to the start and flick through it one character at a time. This process is rendered harder by the fact that stopping from read-all does not appear to place the insertion pointer anywhere near the desired content. The other thing I noticed was that image captions are often read. Therefore in the case of the missing manual series where images are described in detail and that identical text is used to caption the associated image, the result is many time consuming entries from the department of redundancy department (DORD). My thought was that if I could instead read on the Mac, I could cut/paste examples from the take control book into terminal, and perhaps blow off image captions. Thanks to all who contributed preview and PDF reading suggestions also!! Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: James AUSTIN To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Navigating in Preview. Fileapp is also a good choice for reading PDFs on the iPhone. Interestingly, although Skim is touted to be a better PDF reader than Preview, for some reason, if you are reading in "single page" view, when you move to a new page in Skim, VoiceOver does not start reading from the top of the page when reading manually with the VO keys. You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 4 Feb 2012, at 20:45, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Geoff, > > I have read PDF files on the iPhone in ibooks. Is that a option? Or is using the iPhone not a good option for reading this file? I'm pretty sure you have a iPhone as I believe I remember several helpful and several humorous posts you have made regarding its use. > > Best, > I still find PDF reading on the Mac and on PC challenging. > > > > eric Caron > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Thanks to all who responded. I may buy Skim though its primary function seems to be features I don't care about. >> >> Travis stated that its not hard to get where you want to go, and that is a reasonable expectation. After hiding the tool bar it seemed to work better, but now when I quit interacting, and bring up the go to page dialog via command-option-g and interact immediately, my focus remains where ever I was previously. Page up/down also have no apparent affect. Reading this 900 page file one page at a time (toggling interacting every step) is not a viable option. >> >> If this is in fact "not hard", perhaps you can offer a suggestion? >> >> TIA and best regards. >> Geoff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Travis Siegel >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:28 PM >> Subject: Re: Navigating in Preview. >> >> >> If you're having trouble with previews continous view, try the single >> page view instead. This will only allow one page at a time to be >> vissible to vo, so that you won't be dropped back at the beginning of >> the document. There's some tricks for staying where you want to be >> in the preview app, but it's all dependent on whether or not you're >> interacting, and how your cursors are set, and (apparently) sometimes >> where the real cursor is. It's actually not hard to get where you >> want to go, but it is a bit tricky, and takes timing sometimes (since >> you need to catch vo before it starts reading from page 1, interact >> with the text, then (usually) you're back where vo was, but >> occasionally, this doesn't happen, so you get dropped back at the >> start, which can be quite confusing, especially if you're new to >> preview, and don't know how to move around. >> But, if you turn on single page view, this problem goes away, with >> the only caveat being that you can't read the whole pdf from start to >> finish with a vo-a like you can if it's in cntinuous mode. >> hth. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 09:56:22 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 09:56:22 +0000 Subject: passport Message-ID: <6B17A351-DC86-4F57-9E09-7330C0FE4F1A@gmail.com> hi all can i use image scan to take a photo of the front cover of my passport for a job application? i guess sighted people don't need it OCR they just read the image do they? the job application is asking me to attach the scanned document of my passport, the front cover and biometric pages, so I assume i just use image capture From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 11:05:22 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 22:05:22 +1100 Subject: Help with voiceover shortcut or gesture In-Reply-To: References: <39605283-A09F-42DE-9A46-B14C2B4F9FF2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <99FC0067-7876-4B01-8D47-C9529CE3DCF5@gmail.com> HI. what i did was set up a right mouse click using the track pad. this seems to work well. thanks for the suggestion. On 03/02/2012, at 10:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Strange. I can vo shift m on any link and get open link, download file, etc. I wonder if there's an option you have to change or try interacting wiht the text and fo arrowing to the link. then try vo shift m. > > good luck. > On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > >> HI. not getting those options with cvo shift m. i get back, reload page, open in dashboard, view source, save page as. and print page. >> >> thanks. >> >> Maria and Karly. >> >> On 03/02/2012, at 5:53 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: >> >>> There are several options in the context menu, and most of the options you're asking about appear in that menu. To activate this menu, when the link you want is under the vo cursor, press vo-shift-m, and you'll get a pop-up menu with several options, one of which is copy link, and another of which is open in new window. >>> hth. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Sun Feb 5 13:00:15 2012 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 13:00:15 +0000 Subject: editing playlists In-Reply-To: References: <583F472A-F876-42AC-9E63-DD73C6C45E14@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> <9A3191FB-F19A-45A0-AED2-6FE1A45E0E68@gmail.com> <000601cce3c6$a82ef060$f88cd120$@com> <3F6702F4-93C5-4EA3-8AC9-21FF4E9F890A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6EC197DC-0FED-4B8C-9A79-55F06B14D8F4@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Hi, thanks for the tip about command and l. It sort of works as long as you uninteract after each instance and then re interact. If you don't do that , the cursor stays on the last song you went to. Ian On 05 February 2012, at 06:06, Esther wrote: > Hi Margaret, > > You can also navigate to the LCD section by starting from the search text (Command-Option-F keyboard shortcut to go there), and then doing a VO-Left arrow twice (or Left arrow twice with QuickNav on, or flick left twice with TrackPad Commander on). If you interact with the LCD section you get detailed information about the currently playing track. > > Sarah, as another way of answering Ian's question, I thought that you could always press Command-L to go to the currently playing track in the songs table. If you started playing it from a playlist, you'd get the other song tracks in that playlist showing up in the songs table, the original playlist you selected would be highlighted in the sources table, and you would be able to edit the playlist contents in the songs table. Does this not also work? > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> It's right by the volume control. I don't know where it is physically on the screen but it's after the volume controls. >> >> Take care. >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: >> >>> Where is the LCD section? >>> >>> Argaret >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2012 4:58 AM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: editing playlists >>> >>> go to the lcd section and hit show next view until you get to the name of >>> the track view. then go to current song button and hit it and you will be >>> placed there. I've used this many times on a 70 track playlist while I'm on >>> air. >>> >>> Take care, >>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> I want to be able to remove songs from a playlist while it is playing. >>>> >>>> I have >>>> playlists set to shuffle and want to be able to get the vo cursor to the >>> track now playing so I can edit it. >>>> >>>> Can anyone help? >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> Ian >>>> >>> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 13:12:16 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 00:12:16 +1100 Subject: back with more questions apple mail Message-ID: <212D6104-0F63-4583-9A68-DC1A70F76884@gmail.com> Hi. i am trying out the classic layout in mail. it seems pretty good except that vo says blank at the beginning of each message as i'm navigating the list. is there any way i can get vo to stop saying blank, and then from etc? Hope i'm making sense. i noticed in the classic layout view you can choose which headers to see. is there a way to do this in the other view? thanks again Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Feb 5 14:13:58 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:13:58 +0000 Subject: cluttered screen in skype Message-ID: <4f2e8b24.6264b40a.460c.37ab@mx.google.com> i am running version 5 of skype on my macbook. however i appear to get a cluttered screen when i launch it like all the important stuff seems to be hidden like it is bringing up html pages on launch so it is like i keep having to stop interacting, try and locate the table and interact with that and try and access my contacts by doing something like down arrow to locate the nearest contact because voiceover doesn't seem to want to focus. i notice in previous versions of skype that the cursor would get stuck in html content after i had been on a call so i would sometimes have to exit skype altogether in order to get back to my contacts because shortcut keys wouldn't take me back to the right screen but it looks like the latest version seems to be a bit more problematic in this area unless i am doing something wrong when it comes to focusing on an important part of the screen in skype with voiceoverddy From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Feb 5 15:07:58 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:07:58 +0000 Subject: skype notifications Message-ID: <4f2e97cc.0604b40a.4eb8.ffffbef8@mx.google.com> i keep trying to set the choice to contact is available but every time i exit skype and relaunch skype, the choice i select in notifications is set back to announcing "you have signed in" like it is not saving my preferences properly. i have checked the box for speak text and that has saved so i am not sure what the problem is. > ----- Original Message ----- >From: Sarah Alawami To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Date sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 16:30:42 -0800 >Subject: Re: skype notifications >Yep that's the way to do it. Available is online, or I think also away. I can't remember but I think availiable is online. >Take care. >On Feb 4, 2012, at 1:35 PM, michael weaver wrote: >> i am using the latest version of skype. >> am i best setting the popup button under preferences and notifications to contact is available from the list of buttons? >> i wonder if this has been my problem as regards monitoring when my contacts are on-line etc. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- >To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> <1D7FDF81-BBDE-48E3-83BE-C36CBC8FF8E7@gmail.com> <31C560A0-8772-4471-97C9-2B1F39944BD0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0LYX003N4I7WZW60@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, All! That's exactly what I was looking for. Too bad Skype's so inaccessible. Facebook's not much better, either. So, the major social networking tools we want to use work sort of haphazardly or not at all. Just my opinion. Matthew Chao At 07:29 PM 2/4/2012, you wrote: >I think though he wanted to know if you could call someone who is no >tin yoru contacts by typing in there skype id. I don't see a way to >do it in the version of skype I'm running which is 5. > >Take care. >On Feb 4, 2012, at 4:18 PM, matthew Dyer wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > To hang up is command shift h. If you want to call someone in > particular just start typing a name in the contact list and it will > start a search and then do a vo shift m and select call and press enter. > > > > Matthew > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > > > >> Hi, Sarah. How do I use the menus, say, to call a person as > compared to using the Dialpad button? For example, I have a Skype > name I want to contact, but can't find the edit box in which to > type in his name and hit Enter. Also, how do I hang up? > >> > >> Thanks in advance. > >> > >> Matthew Chao > >> > >> > >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> > >>> The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but > I've become proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate > with out the use of keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at > http://dlee.org/skype which allows me to do a lot more via the > command line or terminal. > >>> > >>> Take care. > >>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so > thought I'd give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there > are no help screens or keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook > Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. > >>>> > >>>> Matthew Chao > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >>>> > >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >>>> > >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >>>> > >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: > >>>> . > >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >>>> > >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: > >>>> > >>> > >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >>> > >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >>> > >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >>> > >>> or at the public Mail Archive: > >>> . > >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >>> > >>> > >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >>> > >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: > >>> > >> > >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >> > >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > >> > >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >> > >> or at the public Mail Archive: > >> . > >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > >> > >> > >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >> > >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically > by visiting the list website at: > >> > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From lauriemehta at yahoo.com Sun Feb 5 17:21:15 2012 From: lauriemehta at yahoo.com (Laurie Mehta) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 12:21:15 -0500 Subject: back with more questions apple mail In-Reply-To: <212D6104-0F63-4583-9A68-DC1A70F76884@gmail.com> References: <212D6104-0F63-4583-9A68-DC1A70F76884@gmail.com> Message-ID: VO says blank because there is a blank space on the line where the graphic for unread message would be. This blank means that your message is not an unread message. If it was an unread message, the line would be read, beginning with the word unread. I do not find this to be a problem, personally. To me it means that VO is reading out all of the information that is available to seeing users. /smile/ hth- Laurie On Feb 5, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: Hi. i am trying out the classic layout in mail. it seems pretty good except that vo says blank at the beginning of each message as i'm navigating the list. is there any way i can get vo to stop saying blank, and then from etc? Hope i'm making sense. i noticed in the classic layout view you can choose which headers to see. is there a way to do this in the other view? thanks again Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 17:55:36 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 09:55:36 -0800 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac In-Reply-To: <0LYX003N4I7WZW60@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> <1D7FDF81-BBDE-48E3-83BE-C36CBC8FF8E7@gmail.com> <31C560A0-8772-4471-97C9-2B1F39944BD0@gmail.com> <0LYX003N4I7WZW60@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <36B434A0-50D4-4A23-9D73-78CD13579C71@gmail.com> Actually they work just fine. I find I don't need many keyboard shortcuts as I can assign them myself through the prefs and customize the way I want skype to be.. I could even if i wanted to change the cmd shift h to something else. So just because skype does not have all of these fancy stuff for navigation does not mean it is not accessible. I use this all the time for communicating with family and friends and clients when the time comes. Take care. On Feb 5, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, All! That's exactly what I was looking for. Too bad Skype's so inaccessible. Facebook's not much better, either. So, the major social networking tools we want to use work sort of haphazardly or not at all. Just my opinion. > > Matthew Chao > At 07:29 PM 2/4/2012, you wrote: >> I think though he wanted to know if you could call someone who is no tin your contacts by typing in there skype id. I don't see a way to do it in the version of skype I'm running which is 5. >> >> Take care. >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 4:18 PM, matthew Dyer wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > To hang up is command shift h. If you want to call someone in particular just start typing a name in the contact list and it will start a search and then do a vo shift m and select call and press enter. >> > >> > Matthew >> > >> > >> > On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, Sarah. How do I use the menus, say, to call a person as compared to using the Dialpad button? For example, I have a Skype name I want to contact, but can't find the edit box in which to type in his name and hit Enter. Also, how do I hang up? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> Matthew Chao >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >> >> >>> The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but I've become proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate with out the use of keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at http://dlee.org/skype which allows me to do a lot more via the command line or terminal. >> >>> >> >>> Take care. >> >>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. >> >>>> >> >>>> Matthew Chao >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >>>> >> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >>>> >> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >>>> >> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >> >>>> . >> >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >>>> >> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >>> >> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >>> >> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >>> >> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >> >>> . >> >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >>> >> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >>> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> >> . >> >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> > >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> > >> > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> > >> > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> > . >> > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > >> > >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> > >> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 17:56:29 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 09:56:29 -0800 Subject: cluttered screen in skype In-Reply-To: <4f2e8b24.6264b40a.460c.37ab@mx.google.com> References: <4f2e8b24.6264b40a.460c.37ab@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Tha's the home screen for facebook. Just stopinteracting and then vo shift cmd t to the table which is what you want. On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:13 AM, michael weaver wrote: > i am running version 5 of skype on my macbook. > however i appear to get a cluttered screen when i launch it like all the important stuff seems to be hidden like it is bringing up html pages on launch so it is like i keep having to stop interacting, try and locate the table and interact with that and try and access my contacts by doing something like down arrow to locate the nearest contact because voiceover doesn't seem to want to focus. > i notice in previous versions of skype that the cursor would get stuck in html content after i had been on a call so i would sometimes have to exit skype altogether in order to get back to my contacts because shortcut keys wouldn't take me back to the right screen but it looks like the latest version seems to be a bit more problematic in this area unless i am doing something wrong when it comes to focusing on an important part of the screen in skype with voiceoverddy > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From Mattchao at verizon.net Sun Feb 5 18:44:58 2012 From: Mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:44:58 -0500 Subject: Fusion Driving me Crazy Message-ID: <2E98218E-D8AE-4677-BA8C-EF72E10BA408@verizon.net> Hi, Folks. I realize this has been dealt with a few times, but I'm still having trouble with VmWare Fusion. Two questions: First, I'm using version 3.x. Can I upgrade to version 4.1, or do I need to go through version 4 before upgrading to 4.10? Second, I have the dmg file for 4.10. Do I mount it as a disk image, and/or how do I open it? Then where do I go from there? Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao From mattchao at verizon.net Sun Feb 5 21:04:22 2012 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:04:22 -0500 Subject: Using Skype on the iPhone Message-ID: <0LYX00LEZUJF99D0@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Folks. Has anyone figured out how to get Skype to work on speakerphone? Also, how do I know if the camera's working? Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 21:31:18 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 08:31:18 +1100 Subject: Help with fonts and styles on Bean Message-ID: <-7618688610425568305@unknownmsgid> I have just downloaded Bean and I havve worked out how to bold,italic and underline text but I have a few questions which are. How do you centre text? How do you use thee style option in the font menu? How do you find out if text has gott some sort of font, style,, centre, bold etc? I mean by this question is thatt in windows you can use a shortcut key which tells you if the text is bolded etc. I hope you understand what I mean. Thanks! Margaret Sent from my iPhone From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Feb 5 21:54:05 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 21:54:05 +0000 Subject: Help with fonts and styles on Bean In-Reply-To: <-7618688610425568305@unknownmsgid> References: <-7618688610425568305@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <5B255B55-C180-427B-B2C6-361956E719EF@mac-access.net> Hi margaret, I'm afraid i don't use Bean, so I can't answer your specific Bean question, but here are the answers to your other questions. > How do you centre text? On OS X, the command is Command+Shift+Backslash > How do you find out if text has gott some sort of font, style,, > centre, bold etc? I mean by this question is thatt in windows you > can use a shortcut key which tells you if the text is bolded etc. You can accomplish this in at least two ways: 1. Press VO+V to bring up the VoiceOver Verbosity menu. 2. Press left or right arrow (whichever you prefer), to cycle until you hear "adjust text attributes". 3. Use the up or down arrow to make your selection and press Enter/Return. If you've chosen to have VoiceOver speak the text attribute, then you're good to go. If however you've chosen to play a tone, then do the following to find out the text attribute: 1. When you hear the tone that signifies the new text attribute, after interacting with the "edit text" if you've not done so already, press VO+T on the appropriate word etc and VoiceOver will announce the change. I hope this is helpful. Warmest wishes J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 5 Feb 2012, at 21:31, Margaret Booth wrote: > I have just downloaded Bean and I havve worked out how to > bold,italic and underline text but I have a few questions which are. > > How do you centre text? > How do you use thee style option in the font menu? > How do you find out if text has gott some sort of font, style,, > centre, bold etc? I mean by this question is thatt in windows you > can use a shortcut key which tells you if the text is bolded etc. > > I hope you understand what I mean. > > Thanks! > > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sun Feb 5 22:32:50 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 22:32:50 +0000 Subject: Help with fonts and styles on Bean In-Reply-To: <-7618688610425568305@unknownmsgid> References: <-7618688610425568305@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <2F7914D7-224A-463F-A5E9-116E14CCB062@btinternet.com> Across the Mac, using VO T will give you font information. > You will find the centre command under the format menu in Bean or you can use command | - I found this command confusing before I realised that what this really means is that you press shift command backslash on my IMac keyboard. You get | if you press shift backslash so this makes sense Again this is not just a command for Beam but will work across the Mac.. Having said that I have just tried it in this mail message and although Voiceover announced centred when I did it VO T in this instance just gives the font information so it may not had worked. I have never used styles with a word processor so I am afraid somebody else wil have to help you with this. > David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com On 5 Feb 2012, at 21:31, Margaret Booth wrote: > I have just downloaded Bean and I havve worked out how to > bold,italic and underline text but I have a few questions which are. > > How do you centre text? > How do you use thee style option in the font menu? > How do you find out if text has gott some sort of font, style,, > centre, bold etc? I mean by this question is thatt in windows you > can use a shortcut key which tells you if the text is bolded etc. > > I hope you understand what I mean. > > Thanks! > > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 00:11:06 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 16:11:06 -0800 Subject: Help with fonts and styles on Bean In-Reply-To: <-7618688610425568305@unknownmsgid> References: <-7618688610425568305@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <3A25E0E4-5E7E-40FB-B293-0B72B7A589E0@gmail.com> I think center is still cmd shift backslash. and there is a vo keystroke that will let you see what is what but I'm drawing a blank. I'm still learning bean btw. On Feb 5, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > I have just downloaded Bean and I havve worked out how to > bold,italic and underline text but I have a few questions which are. > > How do you centre text? > How do you use thee style option in the font menu? > How do you find out if text has gott some sort of font, style,, > centre, bold etc? I mean by this question is thatt in windows you > can use a shortcut key which tells you if the text is bolded etc. > > I hope you understand what I mean. > > Thanks! > > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 00:15:16 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 16:15:16 -0800 Subject: Fusion Driving me Crazy In-Reply-To: <2E98218E-D8AE-4677-BA8C-EF72E10BA408@verizon.net> References: <2E98218E-D8AE-4677-BA8C-EF72E10BA408@verizon.net> Message-ID: You will copy the app in to the app folder and then run it. It will then ask you to set up and you let it do that. then you put in your serial key which can be found on your cd package. Take care. On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks. I realize this has been dealt with a few times, but I'm still having trouble with VmWare Fusion. Two questions: > > First, I'm using version 3.x. Can I upgrade to version 4.1, or do I need to go through version 4 before upgrading to 4.10? > > Second, I have the dmg file for 4.10. Do I mount it as a disk image, and/or how do I open it? Then where do I go from there? > > Thanks in advance. > > Matthew Chao > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From nc5rnc5r at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 02:35:08 2012 From: nc5rnc5r at gmail.com (Robert Carter) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 20:35:08 -0600 Subject: New Tech Doctor Podcast Message-ID: <77485FCC-3082-4DDF-B084-C64C39B5548D@gmail.com> Hi All, I just posted a new Tech Doctor podcast featuring Allison Sheridan host of the NOSILLA Cast over at http://www.podfeet.com Allison is a wonderful advocate for people who are blind and you will find this podcast most interesting and informative. Enjoy, Robert From mattchao at verizon.net Mon Feb 6 09:30:39 2012 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 04:30:39 -0500 Subject: Fusion Driving me Crazy In-Reply-To: References: <2E98218E-D8AE-4677-BA8C-EF72E10BA408@verizon.net> Message-ID: <0LYY001S5T352262@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Sarah. Ah, it did give me a choice of copying to applications or opening source; so I let it copy to apps? Matthew Chao At 07:15 PM 2/5/2012, you wrote: >You will copy the app in to the app folder and then run it. It will >then ask you to set up and you let it do that. then you put in your >serial key which can be found on your cd package. > >Take care. >On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > > > Hi, Folks. I realize this has been dealt with a few times, but > I'm still having trouble with VmWare Fusion. Two questions: > > > > First, I'm using version 3.x. Can I upgrade to version 4.1, or > do I need to go through version 4 before upgrading to 4.10? > > > > Second, I have the dmg file for 4.10. Do I mount it as a disk > image, and/or how do I open it? Then where do I go from there? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Matthew Chao > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Mon Feb 6 09:32:27 2012 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 04:32:27 -0500 Subject: Fusion Driving me Crazy In-Reply-To: References: <2E98218E-D8AE-4677-BA8C-EF72E10BA408@verizon.net> Message-ID: <0LYY00HIQT65V3B1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Also, the upgrade is a downloaded dmg file. Can I upgrade directly to 4.10, or do I have to go through 4.0 from 3.x? Have both files. Matthew Chao At 07:15 PM 2/5/2012, you wrote: >You will copy the app in to the app folder and then run it. It will >then ask you to set up and you let it do that. then you put in your >serial key which can be found on your cd package. > >Take care. >On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > > > Hi, Folks. I realize this has been dealt with a few times, but > I'm still having trouble with VmWare Fusion. Two questions: > > > > First, I'm using version 3.x. Can I upgrade to version 4.1, or > do I need to go through version 4 before upgrading to 4.10? > > > > Second, I have the dmg file for 4.10. Do I mount it as a disk > image, and/or how do I open it? Then where do I go from there? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Matthew Chao > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Mon Feb 6 13:11:47 2012 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 13:11:47 +0000 Subject: Mail conversation threads Message-ID: <13912D50-7BFD-43B1-AEDE-22777162BFD9@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk> Hi to all, When reading my forum lists in Mail I have them sorted into threads. Under snow leopard I could hit return on a subject I wanted to read and the individual emails would come up in the order they should be read. for some reason, under Lion the original question is always the last email in the stack. I have tried all sorts to try and reorder the thread without success. Any tips? many thanks Ian From mike at busboom.at Mon Feb 6 14:03:12 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:03:12 +0100 Subject: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_ Message-ID: Hello everyone, Last Friday, I purchased an unlocked iPhone 4S with 64 GB of RAM, and I am ecstatic. I am having one issue, however, and I'd really appreciate some thoughts. At present, I can only use VO with earphones. As soon as I remove the earphones, I don't hear a thing. The only sounds that ever emanate from the speakers are the tones that are sounded when the unit is plugged in to recharge the battery. Neither VO, nor apps that use audio can be heard without earphones. Is this normal, or is this just my iPhone? Thanks in advance for any thoughts on how to rectify this problem, Mike From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Feb 6 14:07:55 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 14:07:55 +0000 Subject: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <323F27E3-2D27-43E6-80BC-E265B3564F17@googlemail.com> Hello Mike, no it is your Iphone, this should not happen. I'm on my third Iphone fours as the speaker went on my other two phones. It might be worth getting a sighted person to check that the volume is on full when using speakers. If it is on full and there is still no sound, go to apple and try and get a replacement. Ian McNamara From ilovecountrymusic483 at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 14:09:44 2012 From: ilovecountrymusic483 at gmail.com (matthew Dyer) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 09:09:44 -0500 Subject: Itunes question Message-ID: Hi all, Have an itunes question. I just moved my lybrary over to an external drive. I changed whare the irt is located, but How do I know if what I am looking at is on the external drive or not? If the contence was moved over to the drive why is everything still on the macontash hd? Thanks. Matthew From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Mon Feb 6 14:26:58 2012 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:26:58 -0600 Subject: iMac no longer plays start up music Message-ID: <201202061426.q16EQwI8015543@x.it.okstate.edu> If it is otherwise working fine, you might try hitting the Volume up and or mute buttons at the top of the number pad during the time it should be playing this chord to see if you might have accidentally muted it or turned it down. At least on some Mac versions such as the Mac Pro, Voiceover remembers different audio settings for the startup sequence than it does when it finishes starting up and you have your desktop. If, for example, you had gotten the startup audio somehow routed to the bluetooth device, muted or turned all the way down, you might not hear anything at all until your desktop starts. One good thing is that it is almost surely a software configuration issue since it is consistent. I discovered this accidentally one day on a Mac Pro. This particular Mac has a tiny internal speaker that plays the startup music and any voiceover speech that occurs when the system has no users actually logged in. It was too faint to understand VO so I pressed the Volume Up key on the number pad with the idea of turning it back down when the speakers came on. The internal speaker got louder but this didn't change the main speaker volume when it finished booting and the desktop came on. The system remembers this new setting over reboots, power downs, etc so if one were to turn it all the way down, you would still have a working desktop with VO, but no startup music nor Voiceover when it wasn't you that was logged in. Basically, each mode of operation has its own sound profile that the Mac appears to store in some non-volatile way such as a file it always saves or maybe non-volatile memory, but it tries to remember how your sound and Voiceover were set even after an upgrade. So, when your Mac is booting or you were to log out of your session, a different sound profile rules until you are back in your desktop again. Martin Paul Hopewell writes: > Hello, > For some time my iMac has stopped playing the chord it used to play > shortly after being switched on. I had hoped that upgrading to Lion > 10.7.3 would fix this but alas not. Any ideas on how I can restore that > useful chord? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 14:49:36 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 06:49:36 -0800 Subject: Itunes question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8DC9B2A4-47DB-4DA6-91E0-778E0D01253A@gmail.com> What happens if you reveil the files in the finder and look at there path? if it is still in the finder then it is remembering bassed on location which it should Iv'e had similar issues but I in my case cannot move my library to an external drive but if the paths look right then I would not worry about it. On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:09 AM, matthew Dyer wrote: > Hi all, > > Have an itunes question. I just moved my lybrary over to an external drive. I changed whare the irt is located, but How do I know if what I am looking at is on the external drive or not? If the contence was moved over to the drive why is everything still on the macontash hd? Thanks. > > Matthew > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 14:51:01 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 06:51:01 -0800 Subject: Fusion Driving me Crazy In-Reply-To: <0LYY00HIQT65V3B1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> References: <2E98218E-D8AE-4677-BA8C-EF72E10BA408@verizon.net> <0LYY00HIQT65V3B1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <8106032A-AD50-45F5-A54D-55E2E15B0A2C@gmail.com> I upgraded to 4 but I don't see why ou cannot just upgrade to what ever version is out now. I have not checked my version of 4 but assume it's 4.1. Take care. On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:32 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Also, the upgrade is a downloaded dmg file. Can I upgrade directly to 4.10, or do I have to go through 4.0 from 3.x? Have both files. > > Matthew Chao > > At 07:15 PM 2/5/2012, you wrote: >> You will copy the app in to the app folder and then run it. It will then ask you to set up and you let it do that. then you put in your serial key which can be found on your cd package. >> >> Take care. >> On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >> >> > Hi, Folks. I realize this has been dealt with a few times, but I'm still having trouble with VmWare Fusion. Two questions: >> > >> > First, I'm using version 3.x. Can I upgrade to version 4.1, or do I need to go through version 4 before upgrading to 4.10? >> > >> > Second, I have the dmg file for 4.10. Do I mount it as a disk image, and/or how do I open it? Then where do I go from there? >> > >> > Thanks in advance. >> > >> > Matthew Chao >> > >> > >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> > >> > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> > >> > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> > >> > or at the public Mail Archive: >> > . >> > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> > >> > >> > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> > >> > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 6 15:17:44 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 05:17:44 -1000 Subject: Moving iTunes library to an external drive [was Re: Itunes question] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <098FCDBE-4C96-44B0-9597-621224913381@mac.com> Hi Matthew, You asked about moving your iTunes library to an external drive: > > Have an itunes question. I just moved my lybrary over to an external drive. I changed whare the irt is located, but How do I know if what I am looking at is on the external drive or not? If the contence was moved over to the drive why is everything still on the macontash hd? Thanks. > > Matthew I wrote a reply to Jane's question about this last week, and was going to point you to this, but a check of the archives showed that this post never made it to the list, although there's a copy in my Inbox dated January 28 (go figure). So I'll append this note along with apologies to Jane for the late reply. The brief answer to your question, Matthew, is that in order to move your iTunes library to an external drive, you have to update the information in the iTunes database to point to the new location. You do this by first changing the location for your iTunes Media Folder in the Advanced pane of your iTunes Preferences. This only specifies where future additions to your iTunes library will be written. To actually move your library to the external drive, you then use the "Organize Library?" menu option under iTunes. This is outlined in more detail in an iLounge article called " Transferring your iTunes Library (November 30, 2011)": In case that long link breaks, here's a shortened link to the same page: Please read that article, because it explains a lot of the basic concepts about how iTunes organizes your library. And to answer your question about how you can tell where any track in your iTunes library is located, if you select a track in the songs table and use the "Get Info" (Command-I) shortcut, the summary tab will show you the path to the file. There are also more details in my reply to Jane, pasted in and appended below my signature. HTH. Cheers, Esther Subject: Moving iTunes library to an external drive [was Re: Working with external Drive] Date: January 28, 2012 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Hi Jane, I've retitled your subject since the main question is about moving your iTunes library to an external drive and using it there. The best descriptions I've read of this process are the articles on the iLounge site. There's a recent (end of November 2011) iLounge article titled, "Transferring your iTunes Library" by Jesse Hollington that explains the process. I prefer to use their mobile site, especially when I access these articles from an iPhone or iPad, so that's the format I'm giving you in the link: ? Transferring your iTunes Library (November 30, 2011) In case that long link breaks, here's a shortened link to the same page: Otherwise, you can do a Google search on "ilounge transferring iTunes library", and use Safari Reader (via the Command-Shift-R shortcut on your Mac) to avoid the ads, additional graphics, etc. on their regular site. To briefly summarize, iTunes maintains the information on where your music, audiobooks, movies, etc. are located in a database file that is relatively small, that you will continue to keep on your main computer, while you move the contents files and folders from your iTunes Media folder to your external drive. However, the correct way to do this is by using iTunes with the "Organize Library?" option found as a submenu under the File menu's "Library" menu option. The iLounge articles use embedded graphics to display the option menus, so I'll describe the dialog menu that appears for the "Organize Library?" option. It consists of two check box options, one for "Consolidate files" that puts copies of all media files used by iTunes in the iTunes Media Folder while leaving the original files in their current location. The second check box option is for "Reorganize files" in the folder "iTunes music" that creates files and folders within the iTunes Media Folder location specified in the Advanced menu of your iTunes preferences, and places files that you imported into iTunes into the correct folders in this location, while leaving files that were not imported in their current locations. The article does a good job of describing the various options you have for moving your iTunes library files if you're upgrading your computer or, as in your case, simply moving the library to an external hard drive. It also describes the common wrong ways to try moving your iTunes files and the misconceptions behind these ways. In the case of moving iTunes content to an external hard drive, you're going to first bring up your iTunes preferences menu with the Command+Comma shortcut, and then navigate to the "Advanced menu" on the title bar. (I think you can use Command+7 to go directly to the "Advanced menu", but the general method of interacting with the toolbar, then navigating to "Advanced" and selecting it with VO-Space will work.) Then you'll need to change the iTunes media folder location to point to your external hard drive. After you change the iTunes media folder location by typing in a new path to the your external hard drive and pressing the "Change?" button, you can close your preferences window (Command+W). Once you've finished adjusting your preferences, you'll navigate to the "File Menu" on your iTunes menu bar and use the "Organize Library?" option. (For example, use either VO+M or Control+F2 to move to the menu bar, press "F" to move to the "File" menu, then arrow down and press "L" to move to the "Library" menu option, right arrow to the submenu to "Organize?", and press Return to bring up the dialog window.) You'll check the "Consolidate Files" to move your imported files to the new location on your external hard drive that you specified in your preferences. This process copies imported content to the new iTunes Media Folder location and updates your library database to the new paths. You can verify this by checking an entry in your music library and using "Get Info" (Command+I) and going to the "Summary" tab to check the path to that file. Once you've verified that your file are correctly copied to the new location, you can clean up and delete the originals. Common misconceptions and mistakes are simply trying to move your iTunes Media folder to the new location without updating the iTunes database. (The library database will still point to your original track locations). Often, people then try to add the folder contents in the new location to their iTunes library. This results in duplicate entries (from both the old and new locations). Then, they delete the old files, which results in both duplicate entries for tracks and dead links for the original track entries. While it is possible to clean this up on the Mac with AppleScripts, like "Super Remove Dead Tracks", and "Corral All Dupes" or "Dupin" (a paid and more powerful set of routines) from the "AppleScripts for iTunes" web site maintained by Doug Adams, it is really painful to try to clean up after these mistakes under the Windows version of iTunes. Another common error is thinking that just changing the iTunes Media Folder location path in the Advanced section of the iTunes preferences will change the current iTunes Media Folder location -- that you can move the iTunes Media Folder to another hard drive, and then just change the path in preferences and have everything work. What that location path actually controls is the where new additions to the iTunes library -- purchases from the iTunes Store, tracks ripped from CDs, etc. -- will be located. This is why, when moving your iTunes library to an external drive, you first change this path to the iTunes Media folder location in your preferences, and then use the command to Organize your library with the Consolidate library option checked to copy your files to the new location. Another concept that this article highlights is that these "Organize Library" options only copy over tracks that you permit iTunes to "organize". These are tracks that are in your iTunes Media Folder and whose file and folder structure are determined by their tag information. Many Windows users and some Mac users do not let iTunes reorganize tracks that have been added to iTunes. The current topic of moving an iTunes library is an intermediate to advanced level topic. (I know that Jane has previous background in this, so she can just read the tutorial for the information she needs). There are some good recent iLounge tutorials written by Jesse Hollington that cover basic iTunes concepts. These are: ? The Beginner?s Guide to iTunes (December 12, 2011) ? The Complete Guide to Album Tagging, Art and Playlists in iTunes (December 9, 2011) Once again, I've linked to the mobile ilounge versions of these guides, which is my preferred format for reading on the iPad. Shortened URL versions of these links, in case they wrap, are: for the beginner's guide: and for the guide on tagging: On the related topic of cleaning up using the "Super Remove Dead Tracks" AppleScript, you can read the archived posts from this list at the secondary Mail Archive: ? "iTunes AppleScript "Super Remove Dead Tracks" [was Re: Cleaning upitunes library]" http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access at mac-access.net/msg02563.html (The Mail Archive supports access key navigation, so you can read down the thread to the next posts with the Control+N shortcut for Safari, and Control+P for previous posts. If, for some reason, you're not using VoiceOver, or you turned on VoiceOver on a Mac where Safari was already open, use Control+Option+N and Control+Option+P for the access key combinations. In other web browsers, substitute the Control key with appropriate access key -- e.g., Alt+N and Alt+P in Internet Explorer.) Finally, Jane asked about podcast subscriptions. These should be correctly handled for an external drive. The way this works is that if the external drive is attached when she checks for updates, then the podcasts will download to the external drive. However, this will also allow you to get updates on your local drive when the external drive is not available. (This was set up to be workable for laptop users who might be using an external drive for most of their iTunes media content. I can probably find the appropriate section in an iLounge tutorial with some searching.) HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 26, 2012, at 17:33, Jane wrote: > I've got an external drive. I want to move all my iTunes stuff and some documents over to it. Will I be able to set iTunes library to use that external drive? How about subscribing to podcasts? I keep hearing they would appear on the internal drive and I'd have to transfer over to external. > > Jane > > From mike at busboom.at Mon Feb 6 16:11:18 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 17:11:18 +0100 Subject: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_ In-Reply-To: <323F27E3-2D27-43E6-80BC-E265B3564F17@googlemail.com> References: <323F27E3-2D27-43E6-80BC-E265B3564F17@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <7D26F25C-1FE1-4281-B94F-A96A78A079A1@busboom.at> Hello Ian, I am greatly relieved to report that the problem has been solved. Though your diagnosis was incorrect, it got me to thinking, and I resolved the problem in a pretty non-spectacular way. First of all, I went to the Sounds entry in settings and determined that my sound volume was at 100%. Then, I turned off the phone and waited for a minute before powering it up again. No change. Finally, while holding the volume up key, after unplugging the earphones, I just started randomly touching the screen to make VO talk. All of a sudden, I started hearing the speaker. This leads me to conclude that the external speaker volume is independent from the earphone volume. Perhaps this will help someone else, too. Best regards, and thank you for indirectly helping me resolve the problem. :) Mike On 6,Feb,2012, at 3:07 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hello Mike, no it is your Iphone, this should not happen. I'm on my third Iphone fours as the speaker went on my other two phones. It might be worth getting a sighted person to check that the volume is on full when using speakers. If it is on full and there is still no sound, go to apple and try and get a replacement. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 6 16:21:15 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:21:15 -1000 Subject: Adjusting VoiceOver speaker volume [was Re: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_] In-Reply-To: <7D26F25C-1FE1-4281-B94F-A96A78A079A1@busboom.at> References: <323F27E3-2D27-43E6-80BC-E265B3564F17@googlemail.com> <7D26F25C-1FE1-4281-B94F-A96A78A079A1@busboom.at> Message-ID: Hi Mike and Ian, Mike responded before I could, but his statement is correct: the volume of VoiceOver through the speaker and the volume for other audio sources playing through the speaker are set separately on the iPhone. If it happens that for some reason the volume for VoiceOver has dropped through the speakers, just start VoiceOver speaking -- for example, by doing a two finger flick up to read all the contents of the current screen -- and use the volume up controls at the side of the iPhone to increase VoiceOver's volume through the speaker while VoiceOver is speaking. You don't need to reset or turn off and then power up your phone to do this. You simply need to make sure that VoiceOver is speaking when you perform the volume up adjustments. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello Ian, > > I am greatly relieved to report that the problem has been solved. Though your diagnosis was incorrect, it got me to thinking, and I resolved the problem in a pretty non-spectacular way. > > First of all, I went to the Sounds entry in settings and determined that my sound volume was at 100%. Then, I turned off the phone and waited for a minute before powering it up again. No change. > > Finally, while holding the volume up key, after unplugging the earphones, I just started randomly touching the screen to make VO talk. All of a sudden, I started hearing the speaker. This leads me to conclude that the external speaker volume is independent from the earphone volume. Perhaps this will help someone else, too. > > Best regards, and thank you for indirectly helping me resolve the problem. :) > > Mike > On 6,Feb,2012, at 3:07 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> Hello Mike, no it is your Iphone, this should not happen. I'm on my third Iphone fours as the speaker went on my other two phones. It might be worth getting a sighted person to check that the volume is on full when using speakers. If it is on full and there is still no sound, go to apple and try and get a replacement. >> >> Ian McNamara From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 16:41:21 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:41:21 -0500 Subject: Adjusting VoiceOver speaker volume [was Re: Using the iPhone 4Swithout earphones_] References: <323F27E3-2D27-43E6-80BC-E265B3564F17@googlemail.com><7D26F25C-1FE1-4281-B94F-A96A78A079A1@busboom.at> Message-ID: You'll find that the volume will randomly drop -- some times the change is probably attributable to an inadvertent holding of the volume down key. Still, I suspect there may be a bug somewhere. For example, when I pull my phone out of a dock, the speaker volume may be all the way down. If the remedy you discovered does not work, and no sound other than ringtones is emitted from your speaker, there may be a dust particle caught in the headphone jack. This would cause the microswitch to remain open and consequently your hardware behaves as though headphones are connected regardless. When this occurs, you can usually dislodge the obstruction by inserting and withdrawing headphones into your jack about ten times quickly. A vacuum or canned air would also do the trick. I have not yet experienced this problem on my 4S, but assume the hardware is unchanged and hence that possibility still exists, so its something to bare in mind. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Esther To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:21 AM Subject: Adjusting VoiceOver speaker volume [was Re: Using the iPhone 4Swithout earphones_] Hi Mike and Ian, Mike responded before I could, but his statement is correct: the volume of VoiceOver through the speaker and the volume for other audio sources playing through the speaker are set separately on the iPhone. If it happens that for some reason the volume for VoiceOver has dropped through the speakers, just start VoiceOver speaking -- for example, by doing a two finger flick up to read all the contents of the current screen -- and use the volume up controls at the side of the iPhone to increase VoiceOver's volume through the speaker while VoiceOver is speaking. You don't need to reset or turn off and then power up your phone to do this. You simply need to make sure that VoiceOver is speaking when you perform the volume up adjustments. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello Ian, > > I am greatly relieved to report that the problem has been solved. Though your diagnosis was incorrect, it got me to thinking, and I resolved the problem in a pretty non-spectacular way. > > First of all, I went to the Sounds entry in settings and determined that my sound volume was at 100%. Then, I turned off the phone and waited for a minute before powering it up again. No change. > > Finally, while holding the volume up key, after unplugging the earphones, I just started randomly touching the screen to make VO talk. All of a sudden, I started hearing the speaker. This leads me to conclude that the external speaker volume is independent from the earphone volume. Perhaps this will help someone else, too. > > Best regards, and thank you for indirectly helping me resolve the problem. :) > > Mike > On 6,Feb,2012, at 3:07 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> Hello Mike, no it is your Iphone, this should not happen. I'm on my third Iphone fours as the speaker went on my other two phones. It might be worth getting a sighted person to check that the volume is on full when using speakers. If it is on full and there is still no sound, go to apple and try and get a replacement. >> >> Ian McNamara <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lyewchan at telus.net Mon Feb 6 17:23:31 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 09:23:31 -0800 Subject: bible Message-ID: <4861A916-C798-4256-B772-DC7E6C8C9B10@telus.net> Hi there. Wondering if anyone knows of software for the bible for the mac? Thanks. From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Feb 6 17:34:26 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 17:34:26 +0000 Subject: iMac no longer plays start up music In-Reply-To: <201202061426.q16EQwI8015543@x.it.okstate.edu> References: <201202061426.q16EQwI8015543@x.it.okstate.edu> Message-ID: <14E09CF5-7130-4CDF-BB47-C24FD3ADDDBA@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Martin, Yes you are dead right and your suggestion fixed the problem. I must have accidentally muted the sound at startup and my iMac has remembered that ever since. So just after pressing the start button I pressed the mute button which would have unmuted sound and presto the startup chord returned. My iMac has now remembered this so the startup chord now survives power off / power on. Many thanks for the tip.. Best regards..... Paul Hopewell On 6 Feb 2012, at 14:26, Martin McCormick wrote: > If it is otherwise working fine, you might try hitting > the Volume up and or mute buttons at the top of the number pad > during the time it should be playing this chord to see if you > might have accidentally muted it or turned it down. At least on > some Mac versions such as the Mac Pro, Voiceover remembers > different audio settings for the startup sequence than it does > when it finishes starting up and you have your desktop. > > If, for example, you had gotten the startup audio > somehow routed to the bluetooth device, muted or turned all the > way down, you might not hear anything at all until your desktop > starts. > > One good thing is that it is almost surely a software > configuration issue since it is consistent. > > I discovered this accidentally one day on a Mac Pro. > This particular Mac has a tiny internal speaker that plays the > startup music and any voiceover speech that occurs when the > system has no users actually logged in. It was too faint to > understand VO so I pressed the Volume Up key on the number pad > with the idea of turning it back down when the speakers came on. > The internal speaker got louder but this didn't change the > main speaker volume when it finished booting and the desktop came on. > The system remembers this new setting over reboots, power downs, > etc so if one were to turn it all the way down, you would still > have a working desktop with VO, but no startup music nor > Voiceover when it wasn't you that was logged in. Basically, each > mode of operation has its own sound profile that the Mac appears > to store in some non-volatile way such as a file it always saves > or maybe non-volatile memory, but it tries to remember how your > sound and Voiceover were set even after an upgrade. > > So, when your Mac is booting or you were to log out of > your session, a different sound profile rules until you are back in > your desktop again. > > Martin > > Paul Hopewell writes: >> Hello, >> For some time my iMac has stopped playing the chord it used to play >> shortly after being switched on. I had hoped that upgrading to Lion >> 10.7.3 would fix this but alas not. Any ideas on how I can restore that >> useful chord? >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Mon Feb 6 17:35:31 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:35:31 +0100 Subject: bible In-Reply-To: <4861A916-C798-4256-B772-DC7E6C8C9B10@telus.net> References: <4861A916-C798-4256-B772-DC7E6C8C9B10@telus.net> Message-ID: Greetings, One Bible app that I have is called Youversion. It seems to be okay, but I'd like something that would be a little easier to use. Nevertheless, it is accessible and at least one blind person that I know of really loves it. It's a question of personal taste, should think.. Kind regards, Mike On 6,Feb,2012, at 6:23 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > Hi there. Wondering if anyone knows of software for the bible for the mac? > Thanks. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Mon Feb 6 17:43:49 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:43:49 +0100 Subject: Siri and Orthography Message-ID: Hi, Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? Thanks in advance, Mike From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Feb 6 18:13:36 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:13:36 +0000 Subject: Siri and Orthography In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi michael, yes it is. for example just say hello, how are you? say the words comma and question mark and it will incert them for you. Ian McNamara From zkline at speedpost.net Mon Feb 6 18:14:49 2012 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:14:49 -0800 Subject: Siri and Orthography In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FE37112-23E9-40A9-A47C-6566B81D67CC@speedpost.net> Hi Mike, Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," "comma," and the like. Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this information. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hi, > > Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? > > Thanks in advance, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 19:12:40 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 14:12:40 -0500 Subject: Siri and Orthography References: <4FE37112-23E9-40A9-A47C-6566B81D67CC@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <93F0C83E00974B0ABB0411D68564DBD7@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri punctuation dictation refinements is here. Have fun! Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Zachary Kline To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography Hi Mike, Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," "comma," and the like. Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this information. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hi, > > Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? > > Thanks in advance, > > Mike > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From terry.clasper at btinternet.com Mon Feb 6 19:20:21 2012 From: terry.clasper at btinternet.com (Terry Clasper) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:20:21 -0000 Subject: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_ In-Reply-To: <7D26F25C-1FE1-4281-B94F-A96A78A079A1@busboom.at> References: <323F27E3-2D27-43E6-80BC-E265B3564F17@googlemail.com> <7D26F25C-1FE1-4281-B94F-A96A78A079A1@busboom.at> Message-ID: <016a01cce504$5ecc9f00$1c65dd00$@clasper@btinternet.com> Hi Michael.Yes indeed the two volumes are totaly independent of eachother and had I seen this in time I'd of been able to tell you what you found out lol Glad its all working again for you my friend! -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom Sent: 06 February 2012 16:11 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_ Hello Ian, I am greatly relieved to report that the problem has been solved. Though your diagnosis was incorrect, it got me to thinking, and I resolved the problem in a pretty non-spectacular way. First of all, I went to the Sounds entry in settings and determined that my sound volume was at 100%. Then, I turned off the phone and waited for a minute before powering it up again. No change. Finally, while holding the volume up key, after unplugging the earphones, I just started randomly touching the screen to make VO talk. All of a sudden, I started hearing the speaker. This leads me to conclude that the external speaker volume is independent from the earphone volume. Perhaps this will help someone else, too. Best regards, and thank you for indirectly helping me resolve the problem. :) Mike On 6,Feb,2012, at 3:07 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hello Mike, no it is your Iphone, this should not happen. I'm on my third Iphone fours as the speaker went on my other two phones. It might be worth getting a sighted person to check that the volume is on full when using speakers. If it is on full and there is still no sound, go to apple and try and get a replacement. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 6 19:41:48 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 09:41:48 -1000 Subject: Siri and Orthography In-Reply-To: <93F0C83E00974B0ABB0411D68564DBD7@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <4FE37112-23E9-40A9-A47C-6566B81D67CC@speedpost.net> <93F0C83E00974B0ABB0411D68564DBD7@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <7A9B61AC-1A9E-4323-BAAF-8ED86302DC3B@mac.com> Hi Mike, John Panarese's macfortheblind pages contains a couple of references that you might like, including all the tips for how to use punctuation for Dragon Dictation, that also apply to Siri. This is on the same page he keeps for third party tips and tricks for iOS apps, so I do a Google search on "macfortheblind prizmo tips" to find the link -- just because "prizmo" is pretty uncommon. Here's the link to the page: John has also put a .rtf file on "What can you say to Siri?" on his documentation page: However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting "Talking to Siri" from the iBooks Store: ? "Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11 This contains all the tips for dictation with punctuation, a discussion of what you can say to SIri, suggestions for how to improve Siri's recognition of your voice for dictation and commands (with some interesting tongue twisters to practice with), It basically assembles the information you can find on the internet in one place, with a detailed organization, and also discusses a few items that aren't generally treated elsewhere -- like apps, such as MailShot for group email messaging, that are designed to work with Siri. (This app is accessible, by the way, and can be used on iOS devices that don't support Siri.) HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri punctuation dictation refinements is here. > > > Have fun! > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Zachary Kline > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM > Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography > > > Hi Mike, > Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," "comma," and the like. > Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this information. > Hope this helps, > Zack. > On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Mike >> From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 07:03:44 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria From Australia) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:03:44 +1100 Subject: back with more questions apple mail In-Reply-To: References: <212D6104-0F63-4583-9A68-DC1A70F76884@gmail.com> Message-ID: <65349E82-D6AF-4DA9-9FA2-323573C82A4A@gmail.com> Ahh i see. thank you. i understand now. and you're right after a while it's not really a problem. Still getting used to navigating apple mail but I think i'm making progress. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 06/02/2012, at 4:21 AM, Laurie Mehta wrote: > VO says blank because there is a blank space on the line where the graphic for unread message would be. This blank means that your message is not an unread message. If it was an unread message, the line would be read, beginning with the word unread. > > I do not find this to be a problem, personally. To me it means that VO is reading out all of the information that is available to seeing users. /smile/ > > hth- Laurie > On Feb 5, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: > > Hi. i am trying out the classic layout in mail. it seems pretty good except that vo says blank at the beginning of each message as i'm navigating the list. is there any way i can get vo to stop saying blank, and then from etc? Hope i'm making sense. i noticed in the classic layout view you can choose which headers to see. is there a way to do this in the other view? > > thanks again > Maria Chapman > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Tue Feb 7 08:00:55 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:00:55 +0100 Subject: Siri and Orthography In-Reply-To: <7A9B61AC-1A9E-4323-BAAF-8ED86302DC3B@mac.com> References: <4FE37112-23E9-40A9-A47C-6566B81D67CC@speedpost.net> <93F0C83E00974B0ABB0411D68564DBD7@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <7A9B61AC-1A9E-4323-BAAF-8ED86302DC3B@mac.com> Message-ID: <43EC1A82-CA01-469F-8EA4-6B1A9BF7CC0B@busboom.at> Hello Esther, Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for everyone else who has taken the time to assist me. In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun. It has been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone. If I purchase the book, which app should I use to read it? Cheers, Mike On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Mike, > > John Panarese's macfortheblind pages contains a couple of references that you might like, including all the tips for how to use punctuation for Dragon Dictation, that also apply to Siri. This is on the same page he keeps for third party tips and tricks for iOS apps, so I do a Google search on "macfortheblind prizmo tips" to find the link -- just because "prizmo" is pretty uncommon. Here's the link to the page: > > > John has also put a .rtf file on "What can you say to Siri?" on his documentation page: > > > However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting "Talking to Siri" from the iBooks Store: > ? "Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun > http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11 > This contains all the tips for dictation with punctuation, a discussion of what you can say to SIri, suggestions for how to improve Siri's recognition of your voice for dictation and commands (with some interesting tongue twisters to practice with), It basically assembles the information you can find on the internet in one place, with a detailed organization, and also discusses a few items that aren't generally treated elsewhere -- like apps, such as MailShot for group email messaging, that are designed to work with Siri. (This app is accessible, by the way, and can be used on iOS devices that don't support Siri.) > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri punctuation dictation refinements is here. >> >> >> Have fun! >> Geoff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Zachary Kline >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM >> Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography >> >> >> Hi Mike, >> Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," "comma," and the like. >> Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this information. >> Hope this helps, >> Zack. >> On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Mike >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Tue Feb 7 08:05:28 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:05:28 +0100 Subject: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_ In-Reply-To: <016a01cce504$5ecc9f00$1c65dd00$@clasper@btinternet.com> References: <323F27E3-2D27-43E6-80BC-E265B3564F17@googlemail.com> <7D26F25C-1FE1-4281-B94F-A96A78A079A1@busboom.at> <016a01cce504$5ecc9f00$1c65dd00$@clasper@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <2137700E-8D06-4657-B987-87511F4C684D@busboom.at> Wow, the list owners sure aren't very discriminating in terms of whom they will allow on the list, are they! :) :) Thanks for your thoughts, Terry, and I shall contact you off-list. In terms of technology, we've come a long way since the first Arkenstone Readers, when I had the privilege of getting to know you. Take care, and thanks for your thoughts on the iPhone speaker/earphone issue. Mike On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:20 PM, Terry Clasper wrote: > Hi Michael.Yes indeed the two volumes are totaly independent of eachother > and had I seen this in time I'd of been able to tell you what you found out > lol > Glad its all working again for you my friend! > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom > Sent: 06 February 2012 16:11 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_ > > Hello Ian, > > I am greatly relieved to report that the problem has been solved. Though > your diagnosis was incorrect, it got me to thinking, and I resolved the > problem in a pretty non-spectacular way. > > First of all, I went to the Sounds entry in settings and determined that my > sound volume was at 100%. Then, I turned off the phone and waited for a > minute before powering it up again. No change. > > Finally, while holding the volume up key, after unplugging the earphones, I > just started randomly touching the screen to make VO talk. All of a sudden, > I started hearing the speaker. This leads me to conclude that the external > speaker volume is independent from the earphone volume. Perhaps this will > help someone else, too. > > Best regards, and thank you for indirectly helping me resolve the problem. > :) > > Mike > On 6,Feb,2012, at 3:07 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> Hello Mike, no it is your Iphone, this should not happen. I'm on my third > Iphone fours as the speaker went on my other two phones. It might be worth > getting a sighted person to check that the volume is on full when using > speakers. If it is on full and there is still no sound, go to apple and try > and get a replacement. >> >> Ian McNamara >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From zkline at speedpost.net Tue Feb 7 08:05:53 2012 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 00:05:53 -0800 Subject: Siri and Orthography In-Reply-To: <43EC1A82-CA01-469F-8EA4-6B1A9BF7CC0B@busboom.at> References: <4FE37112-23E9-40A9-A47C-6566B81D67CC@speedpost.net> <93F0C83E00974B0ABB0411D68564DBD7@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <7A9B61AC-1A9E-4323-BAAF-8ED86302DC3B@mac.com> <43EC1A82-CA01-469F-8EA4-6B1A9BF7CC0B@busboom.at> Message-ID: Hi Mike, Apple's iBOoks app will read eBOoks quite handily, including the one Ester mentioned. It's also the way you purchase books via the phone, though you can also do this on a mac or PC with iTunes. The app is quite accessible, and free, so I recommend taking a look at it. The available book catalog, at least in the US, is extensive, and though you can't read most of the books on any other device you can use iBooks with the vast majority of them, excluding some which contain bits of inaccessible graphical multimedia. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello Esther, > > Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for everyone else who has taken the time to assist me. > > In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun. It has been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone. If I purchase the book, which app should I use to read it? > > Cheers, > > Mike > > > On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> John Panarese's macfortheblind pages contains a couple of references that you might like, including all the tips for how to use punctuation for Dragon Dictation, that also apply to Siri. This is on the same page he keeps for third party tips and tricks for iOS apps, so I do a Google search on "macfortheblind prizmo tips" to find the link -- just because "prizmo" is pretty uncommon. Here's the link to the page: >> >> >> John has also put a .rtf file on "What can you say to Siri?" on his documentation page: >> >> >> However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting "Talking to Siri" from the iBooks Store: >> ? "Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11 >> This contains all the tips for dictation with punctuation, a discussion of what you can say to SIri, suggestions for how to improve Siri's recognition of your voice for dictation and commands (with some interesting tongue twisters to practice with), It basically assembles the information you can find on the internet in one place, with a detailed organization, and also discusses a few items that aren't generally treated elsewhere -- like apps, such as MailShot for group email messaging, that are designed to work with Siri. (This app is accessible, by the way, and can be used on iOS devices that don't support Siri.) >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >>> I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri punctuation dictation refinements is here. >>> >>> >>> Have fun! >>> Geoff >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Zachary Kline >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM >>> Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography >>> >>> >>> Hi Mike, >>> Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," "comma," and the like. >>> Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this information. >>> Hope this helps, >>> Zack. >>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Tue Feb 7 08:15:45 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:15:45 +0100 Subject: Siri and Orthography In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <170E6813-860B-4869-A2D2-B75280EB2842@busboom.at> Hello Ian, Zack, Geoff and Esther, It works! Per your suggestions, I just announced the punctuation marks as I went, and it worked perfectly. Then, I switched my keyboard to German, spoke German (including punctuation marks) and Siri performed flawlessly. The only downside, when I switched to German, was that my phone still spoke English. I wonder if there is a way to tie the VO output language to the keyboard one has in use. At any rate, per Esther's suggestion, I will buy the book in the App Store in order to refine my approach to speech input. Since my iPhone has 64GB of RAM, it might be possible to compose longer texts using Siri. I also downloaded the Dragon Dictation app, but I haven't tried it out yet. You guys are great; thanks for your help! Mike On 6,Feb,2012, at 7:13 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi michael, yes it is. for example just say hello, how are you? say the words comma and question mark and it will incert them for you. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Tue Feb 7 08:20:44 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:20:44 +0100 Subject: Siri and Orthography In-Reply-To: References: <4FE37112-23E9-40A9-A47C-6566B81D67CC@speedpost.net> <93F0C83E00974B0ABB0411D68564DBD7@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <7A9B61AC-1A9E-4323-BAAF-8ED86302DC3B@mac.com> <43EC1A82-CA01-469F-8EA4-6B1A9BF7CC0B@busboom.at> Message-ID: <6454B1B0-7FC2-4FF4-8046-47235CCF94F4@busboom.at> This is helpful information indeed, Zack. My only concern thus far is that to date, I keep hearing from English-speaking iPhone users here in Austria that only German language titles can be purchased from the Austrian store. I sure hope that I can purchase and enjoy books in English from the US app store when I fly to the States. Best regards, Mike . On 7,Feb,2012, at 9:05 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Mike, > Apple's iBOoks app will read eBOoks quite handily, including the one Ester mentioned. It's also the way you purchase books via the phone, though you can also do this on a mac or PC with iTunes. The app is quite accessible, and free, so I recommend taking a look at it. The available book catalog, at least in the US, is extensive, and though you can't read most of the books on any other device you can use iBooks with the vast majority of them, excluding some which contain bits of inaccessible graphical multimedia. > Hope this helps, > Zack. > On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello Esther, >> >> Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for everyone else who has taken the time to assist me. >> >> In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun. It has been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone. If I purchase the book, which app should I use to read it? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Mike >> >> >> On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> John Panarese's macfortheblind pages contains a couple of references that you might like, including all the tips for how to use punctuation for Dragon Dictation, that also apply to Siri. This is on the same page he keeps for third party tips and tricks for iOS apps, so I do a Google search on "macfortheblind prizmo tips" to find the link -- just because "prizmo" is pretty uncommon. Here's the link to the page: >>> >>> >>> John has also put a .rtf file on "What can you say to Siri?" on his documentation page: >>> >>> >>> However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting "Talking to Siri" from the iBooks Store: >>> ? "Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun >>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11 >>> This contains all the tips for dictation with punctuation, a discussion of what you can say to SIri, suggestions for how to improve Siri's recognition of your voice for dictation and commands (with some interesting tongue twisters to practice with), It basically assembles the information you can find on the internet in one place, with a detailed organization, and also discusses a few items that aren't generally treated elsewhere -- like apps, such as MailShot for group email messaging, that are designed to work with Siri. (This app is accessible, by the way, and can be used on iOS devices that don't support Siri.) >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>>> I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri punctuation dictation refinements is here. >>>> >>>> >>>> Have fun! >>>> Geoff >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Zachary Kline >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Mike, >>>> Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," "comma," and the like. >>>> Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this information. >>>> Hope this helps, >>>> Zack. >>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Feb 7 08:28:52 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 08:28:52 +0000 Subject: Siri and Orthography In-Reply-To: <43EC1A82-CA01-469F-8EA4-6B1A9BF7CC0B@busboom.at> References: <4FE37112-23E9-40A9-A47C-6566B81D67CC@speedpost.net> <93F0C83E00974B0ABB0411D68564DBD7@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <7A9B61AC-1A9E-4323-BAAF-8ED86302DC3B@mac.com> <43EC1A82-CA01-469F-8EA4-6B1A9BF7CC0B@busboom.at> Message-ID: <3EE27FF9-577F-48FA-A0EA-FF6CCF2CAB3D@googlemail.com> Hi Michael, Ibooks is a good app if it is available in the Ibooks store. From moriond at mac.com Tue Feb 7 09:37:00 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:37:00 -1000 Subject: Siri and Orthography In-Reply-To: <6454B1B0-7FC2-4FF4-8046-47235CCF94F4@busboom.at> References: <4FE37112-23E9-40A9-A47C-6566B81D67CC@speedpost.net> <93F0C83E00974B0ABB0411D68564DBD7@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <7A9B61AC-1A9E-4323-BAAF-8ED86302DC3B@mac.com> <43EC1A82-CA01-469F-8EA4-6B1A9BF7CC0B@busboom.at> <6454B1B0-7FC2-4FF4-8046-47235CCF94F4@busboom.at> Message-ID: Hi Mike, Zack has already answered your question about using the free iBooks app to both purchase and read ePub books. (There's both a "store" for purchasing books and a "library" for holding ePub books or PDF books that you read in this app. Your library can include both books you purchase from the iBooks store, and any DRM-free eBooks that you load into the iBooks app, either by emailing them to yourself as an attachment, or downloading them from a linked version from a web page or Dropbox file, then opening the file in iBooks, or exporting to iBooks.) "Talking to Siri" is available in the Austrian iBooks store. On the main iTunes Store home page, there's a link for "Change Country". I just checked by changing my iTunes Store country to "?sterreich" and clicking on the link in my earlier post for "Talking to Siri". The link worked, which means that the title is available in your store, and the price came up as 3.99 Euros. The easy way to change back to your country's iTunes Store is to sign into your account, since when you change countries you are immediately signed out. On my Mac I just press Command-Option-F to go to the search field, then VO-Down arrow to the sign in link and activate it with VO-Space. When I enter my login and password, I'll get a dialog window telling me that my Apple ID is only valid for the US iTunes Store, and that I will be switched there, so that I can try my purchase again (even though I'm not purchasing anything). I VO-Space on the "OK" button, and I'm switched to my account, which in my case is in the US iTunes Store. I think that the restrictions on iBooks titles to German language titles may apply to eBook versions of printed titles that are released and subject to copyright licensing distribution agreements by country -- for example, a popular novel for which different publishing groups in each country will bid on, for distribution sales rights. But titles like "Talking to Siri" exist only in electronic distributable form, and the authors make the distribution arrangements directly with Apple's iBookstore. There is no print copy of "Talking to Siri" distributed, as far as I know. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > This is helpful information indeed, Zack. My only concern thus far is that to date, I keep hearing from English-speaking iPhone users here in Austria that only German language titles can be purchased from the Austrian store. I sure hope that I can purchase and enjoy books in English from the US app store when I fly to the States. > > Best regards, > > Mike > . > On 7,Feb,2012, at 9:05 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> Apple's iBOoks app will read eBOoks quite handily, including the one Ester mentioned. It's also the way you purchase books via the phone, though you can also do this on a mac or PC with iTunes. The app is quite accessible, and free, so I recommend taking a look at it. The available book catalog, at least in the US, is extensive, and though you can't read most of the books on any other device you can use iBooks with the vast majority of them, excluding some which contain bits of inaccessible graphical multimedia. >> Hope this helps, >> Zack. >> On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Hello Esther, >>> >>> Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for everyone else who has taken the time to assist me. >>> >>> In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun. It has been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone. If I purchase the book, which app should I use to read it? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote: >>> Hi Mike, >>>> >>>> >>>> However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting "Talking to Siri" from the iBooks Store: >>>> ? "Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun >>>> >>>> From terry.clasper at btinternet.com Tue Feb 7 09:53:33 2012 From: terry.clasper at btinternet.com (Terry Clasper) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:53:33 -0000 Subject: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_ In-Reply-To: <2137700E-8D06-4657-B987-87511F4C684D@busboom.at> References: <323F27E3-2D27-43E6-80BC-E265B3564F17@googlemail.com> <7D26F25C-1FE1-4281-B94F-A96A78A079A1@busboom.at> <016a01cce504$5ecc9f00$1c65dd00$@clasper@btinternet.com> <2137700E-8D06-4657-B987-87511F4C684D@busboom.at> Message-ID: <00c701cce57e$5b169b70$1143d250$@clasper@btinternet.com> Hahaha no I was amazed I was allowed on to the list mate! So pleased your problem is resolved! Look forwad to the off list contact! -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom Sent: 07 February 2012 08:05 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_ Wow, the list owners sure aren't very discriminating in terms of whom they will allow on the list, are they! :) :) Thanks for your thoughts, Terry, and I shall contact you off-list. In terms of technology, we've come a long way since the first Arkenstone Readers, when I had the privilege of getting to know you. Take care, and thanks for your thoughts on the iPhone speaker/earphone issue. Mike On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:20 PM, Terry Clasper wrote: > Hi Michael.Yes indeed the two volumes are totaly independent of eachother > and had I seen this in time I'd of been able to tell you what you found out > lol > Glad its all working again for you my friend! > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom > Sent: 06 February 2012 16:11 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_ > > Hello Ian, > > I am greatly relieved to report that the problem has been solved. Though > your diagnosis was incorrect, it got me to thinking, and I resolved the > problem in a pretty non-spectacular way. > > First of all, I went to the Sounds entry in settings and determined that my > sound volume was at 100%. Then, I turned off the phone and waited for a > minute before powering it up again. No change. > > Finally, while holding the volume up key, after unplugging the earphones, I > just started randomly touching the screen to make VO talk. All of a sudden, > I started hearing the speaker. This leads me to conclude that the external > speaker volume is independent from the earphone volume. Perhaps this will > help someone else, too. > > Best regards, and thank you for indirectly helping me resolve the problem. > :) > > Mike > On 6,Feb,2012, at 3:07 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> Hello Mike, no it is your Iphone, this should not happen. I'm on my third > Iphone fours as the speaker went on my other two phones. It might be worth > getting a sighted person to check that the volume is on full when using > speakers. If it is on full and there is still no sound, go to apple and try > and get a replacement. >> >> Ian McNamara >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From terry.clasper at btinternet.com Tue Feb 7 10:02:04 2012 From: terry.clasper at btinternet.com (Terry Clasper) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:02:04 -0000 Subject: help for my wife Message-ID: <00c801cce57f$8b48c0b0$a1da4210$@clasper@btinternet.com> Hi everyone. I got my wife an IPhone 4S for Christmas and in the main she's getting on really well with it. However to assist in typing she wants a small handbag sized keyboard, which is usable from a totally blind persons perspective, i.e has clear markings on f and J etc, but that is nice and small and portable. I have the Apple keyboard,however this is too big for what she wants. So, on the basis of the welth of experience out there, what can people suggest to fit the bill? Thanks a lot! From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 14:26:29 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria From Australia) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 01:26:29 +1100 Subject: newby questions using adium? Message-ID: <0371CF41-E6E6-45E2-ADE8-3B8A9F3C2AD7@gmail.com> Hi. Just downloaded and installed adium. I managed to set up my accounts and can see the contact list. I've done some googling, but can't seem to find a whole lot of info on how to use this app with voiceover . Are there any audio or text demos out there that explain how to set up adium so it works best with voiceover ? I also can't figure out how to open and read chat windows. I know these are probably basic questions but please bear with me. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Tue Feb 7 14:43:15 2012 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:43:15 -0600 Subject: iMac no longer plays start up music Message-ID: <201202071443.q17EhFU5023172@x.it.okstate.edu> Wow! I nailed it. Thanks for the report. Paul Hopewell writes: > Hi Martin, > Yes you are dead right and your suggestion fixed the problem. I must have > accidentally muted the sound at startup and my iMac has remembered that > ever since. So just after pressing the start button I pressed the mute > button which would have unmuted sound and presto the startup chord > returned. My iMac has now remembered this so the startup chord now > survives power off / power on. > Many thanks for the tip.. > Best regards..... From fitzcl at centurylink.net Tue Feb 7 16:16:02 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 08:16:02 -0800 Subject: help for my wife In-Reply-To: <00c801cce57f$8b48c0b0$a1da4210$@clasper@btinternet.com> References: <00c801cce57f$8b48c0b0$a1da4210$@clasper@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <001401cce5b3$ca17dd10$5e479730$@net> RefreshaBraille from American Ptingin House. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Clasper Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:02 AM To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: help for my wife Hi everyone. I got my wife an IPhone 4S for Christmas and in the main she's getting on really well with it. However to assist in typing she wants a small handbag sized keyboard, which is usable from a totally blind persons perspective, i.e has clear markings on f and J etc, but that is nice and small and portable. I have the Apple keyboard,however this is too big for what she wants. So, on the basis of the welth of experience out there, what can people suggest to fit the bill? Thanks a lot! <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Feb 7 18:22:57 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:22:57 -0400 Subject: DropBox for the Mac. Message-ID: <5B965F1154004964B2D0E24F4DC76B5E@CNIBnotebook> Hi Gang: Is this app accessible? I can't get a darn thing out of it. thanks all over the place gang. From juanitatighan at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 18:34:05 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 13:34:05 -0500 Subject: Looking For AppleScript Guide Message-ID: Does anyone have the AppleScript guide? I tried to get the PDF but for some reason it will not download. Very annoying! Jane From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 18:44:09 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:44:09 -0800 Subject: DropBox for the Mac. In-Reply-To: <5B965F1154004964B2D0E24F4DC76B5E@CNIBnotebook> References: <5B965F1154004964B2D0E24F4DC76B5E@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: <8BA37916-4C37-40FD-8F28-B5B7DEAE2FAC@gmail.com> All you do is copy and past the files in to the folders once you get it installed. I'll let someone else outlind the install prociedure as I need to go grab breakfast though but I do use it all the time on my mac. Take care. On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Gang: > > Is this app accessible? I can't get a darn thing out of it. > > thanks all over the place gang. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Tue Feb 7 20:16:01 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:16:01 +0000 Subject: Looking For AppleScript Guide In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi jane, I'm afraid i don't have the guide, so can't help you on that front. however, there are a plethora of guides and tutorials on the net. You might also want to try O'Reily Media for such a guide. The AppleScript Language Guide on Apple's website is I think as clear as mud on some points and not exactly accessible with VoiceOver. I've tried this in the past. If you get anything, please come back and let us know how you're getting on and where you got it from. TC :) J On 7 Feb 2012, at 18:34, Jane wrote: > Does anyone have the AppleScript guide? I tried to get the PDF but for some reason it will not download. Very annoying! > > Jane > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From roger.firman at btinternet.com Wed Feb 8 07:17:15 2012 From: roger.firman at btinternet.com (Roger Firman) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 07:17:15 -0000 Subject: Zip files and a printer query Message-ID: Hello, A couple of things if I may. Could someone remind me about opening .zip folders and files on a Mac i.e. is any special software required. The folder has been sent as an email attachment. The printer query is just trying to establish if the printer has stopped working or not. It has been working and the only thing I can think of is that it was unplugged and now looks not to be working. As there are two USB ports, is it significant as to which one is used, appreciating that perhaps it may be best to try and plug peripherals back into the same ports. Any thoughts welcome. Regards, Roger. From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 07:40:54 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 01:40:54 -0600 Subject: Zip files and a printer query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <219EA20E-EA6C-4BC9-91F2-4CB626893ED9@gmail.com> Shouldn't make a difference on ports, just unplug and re-plug it and see if it sees it. As for .zip files, just v o spacebar on the file or since this is in an e-mail save it over to some place else such as desktop or documents v o spacebar on it and it should unzip. the new file should show up next to the .zip file. Simple as that, unless it's something like a rar file then you would want the unarchiver which can get those. On Feb 8, 2012, at 1:17 AM, Roger Firman wrote: > Hello, > > A couple of things if I may. > > Could someone remind me about opening .zip folders and files on a Mac > i.e. is any special software required. The folder has been sent as an > email attachment. > > The printer query is just trying to establish if the printer has stopped > working or not. It has been working and the only thing I can think of is > that it was unplugged and now looks not to be working. As there are two > USB ports, is it significant as to which one is used, appreciating that > perhaps it may be best to try and plug peripherals back into the same > ports. Any thoughts welcome. > > Regards, > > Roger. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From roger.firman at btinternet.com Wed Feb 8 08:04:30 2012 From: roger.firman at btinternet.com (Roger Firman) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 08:04:30 -0000 Subject: Zip files and a printer query In-Reply-To: <219EA20E-EA6C-4BC9-91F2-4CB626893ED9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thomas, Many thanks. Roger. From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Feb 8 13:59:14 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:59:14 -0400 Subject: Apple Mail question. Message-ID: Hi Folks: In Apple Mail, how do I make all of my mailboxes visible? The only ones that I see are in-box and sent. thanks. From zkline at speedpost.net Wed Feb 8 14:06:54 2012 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 06:06:54 -0800 Subject: Apple Mail question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11939395-1677-4945-8EB3-4135BEAC3C52@speedpost.net> Hi Jim, It depends where you're looking, really. If you're looking in the favorites bar, then yes, by default, you only see the inbox and sent mailboxes. There's a button you can press in that bar to show a mailbox list, however. If you're using classic view, which you can set in preferences, then mail behaves as it did in Snow Leopard. I hope this helps, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2012, at 5:59 AM, "Jim Noseworthy" wrote: > Hi Folks: > > In Apple Mail, how do I make all of my mailboxes visible? The only ones that I see are in-box and sent. > > thanks. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Wed Feb 8 15:59:07 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 16:59:07 +0100 Subject: Siri and Orthography In-Reply-To: References: <4FE37112-23E9-40A9-A47C-6566B81D67CC@speedpost.net> <93F0C83E00974B0ABB0411D68564DBD7@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <7A9B61AC-1A9E-4323-BAAF-8ED86302DC3B@mac.com> <43EC1A82-CA01-469F-8EA4-6B1A9BF7CC0B@busboom.at> <6454B1B0-7FC2-4FF4-8046-47235CCF94F4@busboom.at> Message-ID: Hello Esther, Your posting below causes me to wonder something else: Is it possible to peruse iBooks stores or other App stores on your Mac and have the item you purchased download to your iPhone when you go into the App store? I find that I am far more proficient on my Mac, in terms of web surfing than on my iPhone. If the answer to this question is in the affirmative, then how do I indicate that the item purchased is intended for use on the iPhone as opposed to on the Mac? Thanks and kindest regards, Mike to On 7,Feb,2012, at 10:37 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Zack has already answered your question about using the free iBooks app to both purchase and read ePub books. (There's both a "store" for purchasing books and a "library" for holding ePub books or PDF books that you read in this app. Your library can include both books you purchase from the iBooks store, and any DRM-free eBooks that you load into the iBooks app, either by emailing them to yourself as an attachment, or downloading them from a linked version from a web page or Dropbox file, then opening the file in iBooks, or exporting to iBooks.) "Talking to Siri" is available in the Austrian iBooks store. On the main iTunes Store home page, there's a link for "Change Country". I just checked by changing my iTunes Store country to "?sterreich" and clicking on the link in my earlier post for "Talking to Siri". The link worked, which means that the title is available in your store, and the price came up as 3.99 Euros. > > The easy way to change back to your country's iTunes Store is to sign into your account, since when you change countries you are immediately signed out. On my Mac I just press Command-Option-F to go to the search field, then VO-Down arrow to the sign in link and activate it with VO-Space. When I enter my login and password, I'll get a dialog window telling me that my Apple ID is only valid for the US iTunes Store, and that I will be switched there, so that I can try my purchase again (even though I'm not purchasing anything). I VO-Space on the "OK" button, and I'm switched to my account, which in my case is in the US iTunes Store. > > I think that the restrictions on iBooks titles to German language titles may apply to eBook versions of printed titles that are released and subject to copyright licensing distribution agreements by country -- for example, a popular novel for which different publishing groups in each country will bid on, for distribution sales rights. But titles like "Talking to Siri" exist only in electronic distributable form, and the authors make the distribution arrangements directly with Apple's iBookstore. There is no print copy of "Talking to Siri" distributed, as far as I know. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> This is helpful information indeed, Zack. My only concern thus far is that to date, I keep hearing from English-speaking iPhone users here in Austria that only German language titles can be purchased from the Austrian store. I sure hope that I can purchase and enjoy books in English from the US app store when I fly to the States. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Mike >> . >> On 7,Feb,2012, at 9:05 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> Apple's iBOoks app will read eBOoks quite handily, including the one Ester mentioned. It's also the way you purchase books via the phone, though you can also do this on a mac or PC with iTunes. The app is quite accessible, and free, so I recommend taking a look at it. The available book catalog, at least in the US, is extensive, and though you can't read most of the books on any other device you can use iBooks with the vast majority of them, excluding some which contain bits of inaccessible graphical multimedia. >>> Hope this helps, >>> Zack. >>> On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Esther, >>>> >>>> Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for everyone else who has taken the time to assist me. >>>> >>>> In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun. It has been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone. If I purchase the book, which app should I use to read it? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote: >>>> Hi Mike, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting "Talking to Siri" from the iBooks Store: >>>>> ? "Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun >>>>> >>>>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 18:34:53 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 13:34:53 -0500 Subject: DropBox for the Mac. References: <5B965F1154004964B2D0E24F4DC76B5E@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: <01C113497DB64AA88184CD18E2BB6E9E@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Jim, Run the installation directly from the volume (the .dmg file). For some reason, that method is accessible, where as copying it to the applications folder and running it from there is not. I got that tip on this list from Annie N last summer. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Noseworthy To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:22 PM Subject: DropBox for the Mac. Hi Gang: Is this app accessible? I can't get a darn thing out of it. thanks all over the place gang. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moriond at mac.com Wed Feb 8 20:54:23 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:54:23 -1000 Subject: Automatic Downloads of iTunes Purchases on iOS devices [was Re: Siri and Orthography] Message-ID: Hi Mike, I've changed the subject line to reflect your question about automatically downloading iTunes purchases you make on your Mac to your iPhone. Yes, it's possible to browse for iBooks and Apps on your Mac using iTunes, purchase these items from iTunes on your computer, and have the item you purchased automatically download onto your iPhone or other iOS device. This also works for music purchases. On your iOS device, go to Settings > Store. If you have a new iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad, this is the last of the settings items for the options that are built into your device, just before the individual settings that may be present for apps that you purchase. On my iPhone I have to do a three finger flick up to scroll to the second page in order to access the "Store" setting. You can also use the four finger tap in the bottom half of the screen to go to the last element of the screen. (Note: I have far too many apps with settings loaded onto my iPhone to navigate to the "Store" setting by going to the last element on my screen, so I just scroll to the second page, touch the bottom of the screen above the home button, and flick left to get to the "Store" setting.) Double tap on the "Store" button. On the "Store" screen you can set up Automatic Downloads, so that new iTunes Store purchases made for your account will automatically download to your device. This includes "free" apps, books, or music, and applies to purchases made from any location, such as your computer or another iOS device that shares the same Apple ID for your iTunes account. There are separate switches for Music, Apps, and Books, and you can double tap any of these to toggle the switch to "On" or back to "Off". So you might want to have your new app and book purchases automatically download to your iPhone, but not your music purchases, if you buy a lot. There's also a switch that allows you to use cellular data to download these new purchases when not connected to Wi-Fi. I usually leave this turned off, so that large items don't download until I have a Wi-Fi connection in order to avoid having this add to my cellular data usage. There is a similar setting to activate automatic downloads for books, apps, and music under your iTunes Preferences menu on the Mac under the Store tab. On your computer, press command-comma, then navigate to the "Store" tab (Command-4). I leave these unchecked -- especially the option for apps, in case a later version of an app loses accessibility, since I don't want my working versions to be replaced. However, you might want to automatically download music purchases made on your iPhone to your home iTunes library. When iBooks was first released, it was not possible to browse or purchase books through iTunes. This is a relatively recent feature -- meaning that it has been around for some months, but some users may not be aware of it. You may find that book browsing, in particular, is easier to do from iTunes on your Mac. List users who have both an iPhone and an iPad will recognize that more iBooks browsing options are available from their iPads than from their iPhones because of the larger screen real estate. If I want to view options for items like "Popular Pre-Orders" or "Best of the Month" on my iPhone, I can copy and paste the link from iTunes and mail it to myself. If I double tap on that link from my iPhone, I'll be able to access that special page, but I may not find some of those link options under the Store screen in the iBooks app, simply because it would make the screen too cluttered. From iTunes on your Mac, you can go directly to browse the Books section. I'm going to assume that you have QuickNav turned on (by simultaneously pressing the right and left arrow keys to toggle this on or off), so that I can type (and you can press) "Left arrow", instead of "VO-Left arrow" (or "Control-Option-Left arrow") to navigate, and so that when I tell you to "press the button" you'll simultaneously press the up and down arrow keys instead of using VO-Space. For those readers who are using TrackPad commander and the touch interface that is similar to the iPhone screen, it's even faster to just flick left, right, up, or down and double tap to press buttons or activate links. Mac Mini, iMac users, and users with Mac Laptops made before 2009 will need to get a Magic Trackpad for this experience. 1. To browse the iBooks Store from iTunes on your Mac, select the "iTunes Store" in your sources table. Pressing Command-Shift-H will automatically select the iTunes Store, or you can choose "Home" under the "Store" menu of your iTunes menu bar, or else simply navigate to your sources table, interact, and navigate to "iTunes Store" 2. Navigate using your right or left arrow key to "Books". I usually do this by pressing right arrow from the sources table to navigate through the buttons for "Home", "Music", "Movies", "TV Show", "App Store" and "Books". When you right arrow from each category, such as "Books", there will be a menu button, such as "Books, menu button", that you can press. Pressing "Books" takes you to the main page for Books in iTunes, but using the "Books, menu button" lets you select specific categories. It will also let you navigate directly to "Audiobooks" if you are looking for that content. 3. Arrow down through the categories of the "Books menu" to select your browsing category. The first item will be "Audiobooks", but all subsequent menu items will refer to iBooks entries. These will be categories like "Enhanced Books" (with multimedia options as well as text -- haven't tried these), "Quick Reads", "Popular Pre-Orders", and "Under $3.99", followed by topical features (e.g., currently "Valentine's Day"), and then a long list of subject categories in alphabetical order (e.g, "Arts & Entertainment", "Business & Personal Finance", "Children & Teens", "Classics", "Cookbooks", "Fiction & Literature","Textbooks"). 4. If you want to return to selecting the browsing categories from anywhere in the iTunes Store, you can go back to the main search field by pressing Command-Option-F. Then, either right arrow past the sources table to the buttons for Home, etc. or I find it faster to first down arrow from the search field then left arrow through the buttons to the "Books, menu button". (You cycle through all the buttons for store categories in reverse order, but it takes fewer key presses to get to this button). This kind of navigation is really fast with TrackPad commander, by the way. Starting from the search text field, I flick down once then flick left 6 times to the "Books, menu button" and double tap. Then I flick down through the categories in the menu and double tap on the one I want. If you're accustomed to the touch screen navigation on your iPhone, you may really like this. 5. Another thing to point out is that you can view your purchases from the iTunes Store, if you are logged into your account, by navigating to "Purchased" under the "Quick Links" heading on any page. This is also a new feature. So if I want to check my previous book purchases, I can set my rotor to "Headings" (e.g., by simultaneously pressing either the up and left arrow keys or up and right arrow keys), then navigate through the headings (by pressing the down arrow key) to "Books Quick Links", then right arrow to the "Purchased" link and activate it. I'll be shown a page with my previous book purchases. I can also switch to checking on previous music, TV show, and app purchases from this page, or search for entries. There's a "Purchased" entry under the "Quick Links" for the main iTunes store home page, as well as the individual categories. The "Purchases" link is always the last item under the "Quick Links", so if you want to speed up your navigation a bit, when you set your rotor to "Headings", navigate to the heading just after "Quick Links" then left arrow twice to get to the list for previous heading and then to the "Purchased" link under "Quick Links". HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 8, 2012, at 5:59 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello Esther, > > Your posting below causes me to wonder something else: > > Is it possible to peruse iBooks stores or other App stores on your Mac and have the item you purchased download to your iPhone when you go into the App store? I find that I am far more proficient on my Mac, in terms of web surfing than on my iPhone. If the answer to this question is in the affirmative, then how do I indicate that the item purchased is intended for use on the iPhone as opposed to on the Mac? > > Thanks and kindest regards, > > Mike > From lyewchan at telus.net Wed Feb 8 22:15:40 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:15:40 -0800 Subject: smart mailboxes Message-ID: Hi there. How does smart mailboxes work and how do you set them up? I have one for kals which I hoped would filter mail dealing with monthly Kals would go there but it is not going that way. Thanks for any help. Lovette From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 22:33:56 2012 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:33:56 -0500 Subject: smart mailboxes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Go to mailbox in the menu bar, and arrow down to new smart mailbox then press enter. Name the mailbox, then set up the criteria for the messages you want to go in there. On Feb 8, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: Hi there. How does smart mailboxes work and how do you set them up? I have one for kals which I hoped would filter mail dealing with monthly Kals would go there but it is not going that way. Thanks for any help. Lovette <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From mabuhay94 at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 22:42:42 2012 From: mabuhay94 at gmail.com (Daniela Rubio) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:42:42 -0500 Subject: Declaration addressed to Apple for Accessibility inprovement Message-ID: <5FEAE90A-3693-41DB-9251-6F24EF8370FA@gmail.com> Hello all: Here I send a link for a sign recollection addressed to Apple. The iniciative was started by a group of spanish speaking people, but I think it would be great for all, regardless of our native language. The page is in spanish, but is very easy to follow. The form fields are just: Name, Last name, E-mail and the check box where you accept the regulations of the page. In the page we can see the letter in english and spanish, but I paste it here before the link. Users with and without disabilities who use Apple products declare the following: We recognize the great work done by Apple in order to include support for multiple disability profiles for their products. With this, many people can access a big variety of services and content on the same date, in the same way and paying the same as people without disabilities. However, the great potential of this effort made by Apple could grow more. A major commitment by the company is required to achieve full accessibility in their products and services, as people with disabilities still face problems accessing them freely. For all this we request: Apple should give more importance to the accessibility of applications from the App store and the Mac app store, since there are many developers who ignore or do not pay attention to the needs of people with disabilities. It is very important to raise the presence of accessible design issues and tools for improving accessibility within the documentation, design guidelines and development tools provided by Apple to its developers, for at this time, , documentation and accessibility tools fill in positions of minor importance, and many developers are unaware of these elements. Apple should reward the efforts of developers who create accessible applications by giving them a greater visibility within the application stores. for this a new category or distinction for applications should be created in the Mac App store and app store, where applications in which accessibility is assured are classified. To achieve this, besides creating the distinctive character or the corresponding category in the App Store, Apple should define procedures for evaluating the applications accessibility during the review process prior to the publishing of each application. Apple should integrate accessibility within their staff. Employees at Apple should have more training and awareness about accessibility and disabilities , so they can more effectively help this group of users to take more advantage of Apple's products and services. According to the fact that Spanish is a language whose speakers number is high worldwide, and more people from spanish speaking countries acquire and use Apple products, we find necessary that the support of accesibility at apple.com extends into Spanish in order to improve the feedback between Apple and its users, for this feedback has proved to be very important for the company. here you have the link http://actuable.es/peticiones/la-accesibilidad-plena-un-camino-al-excelencia-2 SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Wed Feb 8 23:07:24 2012 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:07:24 +0000 Subject: Declaration addressed to Apple for Accessibility inprovement In-Reply-To: <5FEAE90A-3693-41DB-9251-6F24EF8370FA@gmail.com> References: <5FEAE90A-3693-41DB-9251-6F24EF8370FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi there! Well I'm up for it and I cannot speak Spanish! So I hit a problem you told us about the form fields but you left one out and I think it will not let you complete the process without filling it in! So help please! And also are you on visionaries it might be good to post this there! Colin On 8 Feb 2012, at 22:42, Daniela Rubio wrote: > Hello all: > Here I send a link for a sign recollection addressed to Apple. > The initiative was started by a group of spanish speaking people, but I think it would be great for all, regardless of our native language. > The page is in spanish, but is very easy to follow. The form fields are just: Name, Last name, E-mail and the check box where you accept the regulations of the page. > In the page we can see the letter in english and spanish, but I paste it here before the link. > > > > > Users with and without disabilities who use Apple products declare the following: > > We recognise the great work done by Apple in order to include support for multiple disability profiles for their products. With this, many people can access a big variety of services and content on the same date, in the same way and paying the same as people without disabilities. However, the great potential of this effort made by Apple could grow more. A major commitment by the company is required to achieve full accessibility in their products and services, as people with disabilities still face problems accessing them freely. For all this we request: > > Apple should give more importance to the accessibility of applications from the App store and the Mac app store, since there are many developers who ignore or do not pay attention to the needs of people with disabilities. It is very important to raise the presence of accessible design issues and tools for improving accessibility within the documentation, design guidelines and development tools provided by Apple to its developers, for at this time, , documentation and accessibility tools fill in positions of minor importance, and many developers are unaware of these elements. > Apple should reward the efforts of developers who create accessible applications by giving them a greater visibility within the application stores. for this a new category or distinction for applications should be created in the Mac App store and app store, where applications in which accessibility is assured are classified. To achieve this, besides creating the distinctive character or the corresponding category in the App Store, Apple should define procedures for evaluating the applications accessibility during the review process prior to the publishing of each application. > Apple should integrate accessibility within their staff. Employees at Apple should have more training and awareness about accessibility and disabilities , so they can more effectively help this group of users to take more advantage of Apple's products and services. > According to the fact that Spanish is a language whose speakers number is high worldwide, and more people from spanish speaking countries acquire and use Apple products, we find necessary that the support of accesibility at apple.com extends into Spanish in order to improve the feedback between Apple and its users, for this feedback has proved to be very important for the company. > > here you have the link > http://actuable.es/peticiones/la-accesibilidad-plena-un-camino-al-excelencia-2 > > > > > SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. > MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. > EN TWITTER: @macneticos > NUESTRO BLOG EN: > www.macneticus.blogspot.com > Y EL PODCAST EN:` > http://macneticos.libsyn.com > > > SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. > MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. > EN TWITTER: @macneticos > NUESTRO BLOG EN: > www.macneticus.blogspot.com > Y EL PODCAST EN:` > http://macneticos.libsyn.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mabuhay94 at gmail.com Wed Feb 8 23:11:40 2012 From: mabuhay94 at gmail.com (Daniela Rubio) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:11:40 -0500 Subject: Declaration addressed to Apple for Accessibility inprovement In-Reply-To: References: <5FEAE90A-3693-41DB-9251-6F24EF8370FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: My goodness! I forgot zeepcode, which is the last one before the checkbox. Sory, and if you can find an english accessible web to collect signs, just post it where ever you feel it can work. I also invite you to publish this in blogs or other places. Take care! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 08/02/2012, a las 18:07, Red.Falcon escribi?: > Hi there! > Well I'm up for it and I cannot speak Spanish! > So I hit a problem you told us about the form fields but you left one out and I think it will not let you complete the process without filling it in! > So help please! > And also are you on visionaries it might be good to post this there! > Colin > > On 8 Feb 2012, at 22:42, Daniela Rubio wrote: > >> Hello all: >> Here I send a link for a sign recollection addressed to Apple. >> The initiative was started by a group of spanish speaking people, but I think it would be great for all, regardless of our native language. >> The page is in spanish, but is very easy to follow. The form fields are just: Name, Last name, E-mail and the check box where you accept the regulations of the page. >> In the page we can see the letter in english and spanish, but I paste it here before the link. >> >> >> >> >> Users with and without disabilities who use Apple products declare the following: >> >> We recognise the great work done by Apple in order to include support for multiple disability profiles for their products. With this, many people can access a big variety of services and content on the same date, in the same way and paying the same as people without disabilities. However, the great potential of this effort made by Apple could grow more. A major commitment by the company is required to achieve full accessibility in their products and services, as people with disabilities still face problems accessing them freely. For all this we request: >> >> Apple should give more importance to the accessibility of applications from the App store and the Mac app store, since there are many developers who ignore or do not pay attention to the needs of people with disabilities. It is very important to raise the presence of accessible design issues and tools for improving accessibility within the documentation, design guidelines and development tools provided by Apple to its developers, for at this time, , documentation and accessibility tools fill in positions of minor importance, and many developers are unaware of these elements. >> Apple should reward the efforts of developers who create accessible applications by giving them a greater visibility within the application stores. for this a new category or distinction for applications should be created in the Mac App store and app store, where applications in which accessibility is assured are classified. To achieve this, besides creating the distinctive character or the corresponding category in the App Store, Apple should define procedures for evaluating the applications accessibility during the review process prior to the publishing of each application. >> Apple should integrate accessibility within their staff. Employees at Apple should have more training and awareness about accessibility and disabilities , so they can more effectively help this group of users to take more advantage of Apple's products and services. >> According to the fact that Spanish is a language whose speakers number is high worldwide, and more people from spanish speaking countries acquire and use Apple products, we find necessary that the support of accesibility at apple.com extends into Spanish in order to improve the feedback between Apple and its users, for this feedback has proved to be very important for the company. >> >> here you have the link >> http://actuable.es/peticiones/la-accesibilidad-plena-un-camino-al-excelencia-2 >> >> >> >> >> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. >> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. >> EN TWITTER: @macneticos >> NUESTRO BLOG EN: >> www.macneticus.blogspot.com >> Y EL PODCAST EN:` >> http://macneticos.libsyn.com >> >> >> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. >> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. >> EN TWITTER: @macneticos >> NUESTRO BLOG EN: >> www.macneticus.blogspot.com >> Y EL PODCAST EN:` >> http://macneticos.libsyn.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 00:13:02 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 16:13:02 -0800 Subject: Declaration addressed to Apple for Accessibility inprovement In-Reply-To: References: <5FEAE90A-3693-41DB-9251-6F24EF8370FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: I thoguth there was already an initiave at www.change.org for this but I could be wrong. When I get home I'll contemplate signgin but my spanish is so bad I barely remember what I learned in colledge. On Feb 8, 2012, at 15:11, Daniela Rubio wrote: > My goodness! > I forgot zeepcode, which is the last one before the checkbox. > Sory, and if you can find an english accessible web to collect signs, just post it where ever you feel it can work. I also invite you to publish this in blogs or other places. > Take care! > > SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. > MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. > EN TWITTER: @macneticos > NUESTRO BLOG EN: > www.macneticus.blogspot.com > Y EL PODCAST EN:` > http://macneticos.libsyn.com > > > > El 08/02/2012, a las 18:07, Red.Falcon escribi?: > >> Hi there! >> Well I'm up for it and I cannot speak Spanish! >> So I hit a problem you told us about the form fields but you left one out and I think it will not let you complete the process without filling it in! >> So help please! >> And also are you on visionaries it might be good to post this there! >> Colin >> >> On 8 Feb 2012, at 22:42, Daniela Rubio wrote: >> >>> Hello all: >>> Here I send a link for a sign recollection addressed to Apple. >>> The initiative was started by a group of spanish speaking people, but I think it would be great for all, regardless of our native language. >>> The page is in spanish, but is very easy to follow. The form fields are just: Name, Last name, E-mail and the check box where you accept the regulations of the page. >>> In the page we can see the letter in english and spanish, but I paste it here before the link. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Users with and without disabilities who use Apple products declare the following: >>> >>> We recognise the great work done by Apple in order to include support for multiple disability profiles for their products. With this, many people can access a big variety of services and content on the same date, in the same way and paying the same as people without disabilities. However, the great potential of this effort made by Apple could grow more. A major commitment by the company is required to achieve full accessibility in their products and services, as people with disabilities still face problems accessing them freely. For all this we request: >>> >>> Apple should give more importance to the accessibility of applications from the App store and the Mac app store, since there are many developers who ignore or do not pay attention to the needs of people with disabilities. It is very important to raise the presence of accessible design issues and tools for improving accessibility within the documentation, design guidelines and development tools provided by Apple to its developers, for at this time, , documentation and accessibility tools fill in positions of minor importance, and many developers are unaware of these elements. >>> Apple should reward the efforts of developers who create accessible applications by giving them a greater visibility within the application stores. for this a new category or distinction for applications should be created in the Mac App store and app store, where applications in which accessibility is assured are classified. To achieve this, besides creating the distinctive character or the corresponding category in the App Store, Apple should define procedures for evaluating the applications accessibility during the review process prior to the publishing of each application. >>> Apple should integrate accessibility within their staff. Employees at Apple should have more training and awareness about accessibility and disabilities , so they can more effectively help this group of users to take more advantage of Apple's products and services. >>> According to the fact that Spanish is a language whose speakers number is high worldwide, and more people from spanish speaking countries acquire and use Apple products, we find necessary that the support of accesibility at apple.com extends into Spanish in order to improve the feedback between Apple and its users, for this feedback has proved to be very important for the company. >>> >>> here you have the link >>> http://actuable.es/peticiones/la-accesibilidad-plena-un-camino-al-excelencia-2 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. >>> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. >>> EN TWITTER: @macneticos >>> NUESTRO BLOG EN: >>> www.macneticus.blogspot.com >>> Y EL PODCAST EN:` >>> http://macneticos.libsyn.com >>> >>> >>> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. >>> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. >>> EN TWITTER: @macneticos >>> NUESTRO BLOG EN: >>> www.macneticus.blogspot.com >>> Y EL PODCAST EN:` >>> http://macneticos.libsyn.com >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 00:14:26 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 16:14:26 -0800 Subject: Apple Mail question. In-Reply-To: <11939395-1677-4945-8EB3-4135BEAC3C52@speedpost.net> References: <11939395-1677-4945-8EB3-4135BEAC3C52@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <1CEBAC16-81DE-4292-A501-990C24BDFAB8@gmail.com> On Feb 8, 2012, at 6:06, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Jim, > It depends where you're looking, really. If you're looking in the favorites bar, then yes, by default, you only see the inbox and sent mailboxes. There's a button you can press in that bar to show a mailbox list, however. If you're using classic view, which you can set in preferences, then mail behaves as it did in Snow Leopard. > I hope this helps, > Zack. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 8, 2012, at 5:59 AM, "Jim Noseworthy" wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> In Apple Mail, how do I make all of my mailboxes visible? The only ones that I see are in-box and sent. >> >> thanks. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Simply press cmd shift m to hide and unhidje the mail boxes. I use and often times forget this keystroke. Tc all From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 00:16:21 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 16:16:21 -0800 Subject: DropBox for the Mac. In-Reply-To: <01C113497DB64AA88184CD18E2BB6E9E@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <5B965F1154004964B2D0E24F4DC76B5E@CNIBnotebook> <01C113497DB64AA88184CD18E2BB6E9E@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: I thoguth they chahnged that where you have to show package contents and brows to a path which I cannot remember as I'm not home.. On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:34, "Geoff Waaler" wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Run the installation directly from the volume (the .dmg file). For some reason, that method is accessible, where as copying it to the applications folder and running it from there is not. I got that tip on this list from Annie N last summer. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Noseworthy > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:22 PM > Subject: DropBox for the Mac. > > > Hi Gang: > > Is this app accessible? I can't get a darn thing out of it. > > thanks all over the place gang. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 13:46:14 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:46:14 +1100 Subject: help with Skype and analogue mic. Message-ID: <98B504C9-94EC-4DB7-8BF5-77BD14263097@gmail.com> Hi. my mic doesn't seem to be working in skype. I can't hear myself in the skype test call, and no one else can hear me either. Tried looking in the options and it says input device 0 percent but i can't seem to find a way to change it. the mic is plugged in to the right jack and when i go in to sound in system preferences it says line in and i have the volume set to about half way. Is there a way i can test to see if the mic is working? This particular mic works on my pc. Is there a built in app that i can use to test the mic? thanks for any ideas. Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 16:29:18 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 08:29:18 -0800 Subject: help with Skype and analogue mic. In-Reply-To: <98B504C9-94EC-4DB7-8BF5-77BD14263097@gmail.com> References: <98B504C9-94EC-4DB7-8BF5-77BD14263097@gmail.com> Message-ID: Download an app called line in. from rog amiba. YOu can test yoru devices that way. and set the line in volume to about 100 percent not 50. then see if it works. On Feb 9, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: > Hi. > > my mic doesn't seem to be working in skype. I can't hear myself in the skype test call, and no one else can hear me either. Tried looking in the options and it says input device 0 percent but i can't seem to find a way to change it. the mic is plugged in to the right jack and when i go in to sound in system preferences it says line in and i have the volume set to about half way. Is there a way i can test to see if the mic is working? This particular mic works on my pc. Is there a built in app that i can use to test the mic? > > thanks for any ideas. > > > Maria Chapman > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > will get you fb as well as email > skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Thu Feb 9 17:01:51 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:01:51 -0400 Subject: Apple Mail Favorites bar question. Message-ID: <5B5DB95AAA4645C19BCF49DA559FB460@CNIBnotebook> Hi Folks: How does one move or delete a mailbox from the favorites bar in Apple Mail? thanks all over the place gang. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 17:08:48 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:08:48 -0800 Subject: Apple Mail Favorites bar question. In-Reply-To: <5B5DB95AAA4645C19BCF49DA559FB460@CNIBnotebook> References: <5B5DB95AAA4645C19BCF49DA559FB460@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: I read that you have to drag the email box off of it to remove and on to it to add, but I tried and it failed. Drag and drop does not seem to work for that task. Take care all;; On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > How does one move or delete a mailbox from the favorites bar in Apple Mail? > > thanks all over the place gang. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 18:05:12 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 10:05:12 -0800 Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? Message-ID: <0523EB03-3873-494B-A4C1-1EF0DE5D73FA@gmail.com> Hello. I heard somewhere that you can remotely lock an iPhone from your mac. I've searched all over google but cannot find a way to do this. I'm asking on behalf of a friend how to do this and I'm curious myself lol! Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 From lyewchan at telus.net Thu Feb 9 18:22:39 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 10:22:39 -0800 Subject: more email questions Message-ID: Hi there. I seem to have been able to create smart mailboxes but I have two with the same name how do I delte one? I tried to drag and drop on trash and it appeared to work but when I was back in mail the two are still there. Also I notice that the personal email that I get does go into the folder or mailbox I created but it also is in the inbox is this how it works? Is there a way for the email boxes to open that have messages? Okay I had more than two questions. *smile* Lovette From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 20:19:16 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:19:16 -0500 Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? References: <0523EB03-3873-494B-A4C1-1EF0DE5D73FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3D896BA0F4F34722AAAAC78BC9BA4AB0@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Sarah, Assuming that your friend installed IOS5 and enabled "find my iphone" in settings-->iCloud, this is sort of possible by going to the icloud.com site and signing on with an Apple ID and selecting "find my iphone". >From my testing, this now only appears to be possible using either Google Chrome or Webkit/Safari. Be ware of a few rather severe accessibility barriers though. If a passcode is already set on the phone, one can select "find my iPhone" and after pressing the unlabeled button below the device (EG joe blows iPhone located 2 minutes ago) select "remote lock and then press a button to confirm. If a passcode is not set, however, the site prompts for a passcode and confirmation. Sadly, these fields are not accessible to voiceOver or any other screen reading technology that I've tested so far. Even guessing and entering four digit numbers in the two likely places doesn't work. On the Windows side (running XP pro), I can use Chrome with the same limitation described above (IE if a passcode is not already set I'm completely SOL), but I wouldn't dare try this using Mozilla Firefox 10.0. When I select "remote lock" I keep receiving the admonishment for "remote wipe" and chicken out. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Alawami To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:05 PM Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? Hello. I heard somewhere that you can remotely lock an iPhone from your mac. I've searched all over google but cannot find a way to do this. I'm asking on behalf of a friend how to do this and I'm curious myself lol! Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 20:32:22 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:32:22 -0800 Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? In-Reply-To: <3D896BA0F4F34722AAAAC78BC9BA4AB0@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <0523EB03-3873-494B-A4C1-1EF0DE5D73FA@gmail.com> <3D896BA0F4F34722AAAAC78BC9BA4AB0@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <78A7B7A1-BFBD-4CB6-96C5-BB869EFF268E@gmail.com> Acutally there was someone totally blind who can do it successfully wiht a mac. I dunno how though. but they can do it every single time. Take care all On Feb 9, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Assuming that your friend installed IOS5 and enabled "find my iphone" in settings-->iCloud, this is sort of possible by going to the icloud.com site and signing on with an Apple ID and selecting "find my iphone". > > From my testing, this now only appears to be possible using either Google Chrome or Webkit/Safari. Be ware of a few rather severe accessibility barriers though. If a passcode is already set on the phone, one can select "find my iPhone" and after pressing the unlabeled button below the device (EG joe blows iPhone located 2 minutes ago) select "remote lock and then press a button to confirm. If a passcode is not set, however, the site prompts for a passcode and confirmation. Sadly, these fields are not accessible to voiceOver or any other screen reading technology that I've tested so far. Even guessing and entering four digit numbers in the two likely places doesn't work. > > On the Windows side (running XP pro), I can use Chrome with the same limitation described above (IE if a passcode is not already set I'm completely SOL), but I wouldn't dare try this using Mozilla Firefox 10.0. When I select "remote lock" I keep receiving the admonishment for "remote wipe" and chicken out. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sarah Alawami > To: mac access list iOS Accessibility > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:05 PM > Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? > > > Hello. I heard somewhere that you can remotely lock an iPhone from your mac. I've searched all over google but cannot find a way to do this. I'm asking on behalf of a friend how to do this and I'm curious myself lol! > > Take care all. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 20:34:43 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:34:43 -0500 Subject: changing the gain in amadeus pro Message-ID: <43486CD9-10D9-4C26-A0EE-8AF3D91DA541@gmail.com> Hi, I'm trying to convert a cassette tape to a MP3, but the gain isn't right, the recorder isn't picking it up in amadeus. How can I fix it, the sliders are dimmed. Thanks, Courtney From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Thu Feb 9 20:43:17 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:43:17 +0000 Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? In-Reply-To: <0523EB03-3873-494B-A4C1-1EF0DE5D73FA@gmail.com> References: <0523EB03-3873-494B-A4C1-1EF0DE5D73FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F342FE5.9090803@techno-chat.net> Enable Find my iPhone on your device by going to settings, iCloud. Then on your mac go to www.icloud.com. On 09/02/2012 18:05, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. I heard somewhere that you can remotely lock an iPhone from your mac. I've searched all over google but cannot find a way to do this. I'm asking on behalf of a friend how to do this and I'm curious myself lol! > > Take care all. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From khwicca at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 20:56:41 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:56:41 -0500 Subject: My PC died Message-ID: <2C102C87-DCE4-4C2A-9E74-8A3874855BA3@gmail.com> I'm looking for some honest advice here. My desktop PC is dead. It's four years old, so I'm not going to try and put a new hard drive in it or fix memory or whatever is wrong. It doesn't even pretend to boot. There are some apps that I still use that are PC. I haven't found anything Apple to replace them with as yet. Given that, would I be better off to still get an Apple and put a Windows 7 OS on it to run these? Or, would it be better to go with another PC? I want to do what makes the most sense, but I do love the accessibility of the Apple and if I could bring it home and do all the setup myself, it'd sure be cool. If I went with an Apple, would it be best to get an iMac? It seems like the closest to a PC desktop. Kristeen Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From 1smartdog at cox.net Thu Feb 9 21:13:18 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:13:18 -0600 Subject: My PC died References: <2C102C87-DCE4-4C2A-9E74-8A3874855BA3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <71E6A468E31848388530D5C8FDB77EEE@karen796b6a58c> Kristeen, Not that I wish to discourage you from replacing your PC if that is what you really want to do. However, the fix for your PC could be as simple as a new power cord or a power supply, both of which are inexpensive easy fixes. Good luck with whatever you choose. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristeen Hughes" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: My PC died > I'm looking for some honest advice here. My desktop PC is dead. It's four > years old, so I'm not going to try and put a new hard drive in it or fix > memory or whatever is wrong. It doesn't even pretend to boot. There are > some apps that I still use that are PC. I haven't found anything Apple to > replace them with as yet. Given that, would I be better off to still get > an Apple and put a Windows 7 OS on it to run these? Or, would it be better > to go with another PC? I want to do what makes the most sense, but I do > love the accessibility of the Apple and if I could bring it home and do > all the setup myself, it'd sure be cool. > > If I went with an Apple, would it be best to get an iMac? It seems like > the closest to a PC desktop. > > Kristeen > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 21:16:36 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:16:36 -0500 Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? References: <0523EB03-3873-494B-A4C1-1EF0DE5D73FA@gmail.com><3D896BA0F4F34722AAAAC78BC9BA4AB0@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <78A7B7A1-BFBD-4CB6-96C5-BB869EFF268E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <63051C242FC046CEA51AB8D13957F2C0@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Sarah, By "do it", are you saying this person can remotely set a pass code, or compose a message to appear on the iphone when playing a sound? I normally don't give up easily, but have tried this with four browsers on XP and Lion, and so far no tricks such as clicking the mouse or turning off virtual cursor in JFW13 have ever worked. I wrote to the Apple accessibility team on this issue some months back and of course received no reply. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Alawami To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:32 PM Subject: Re: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? Acutally there was someone totally blind who can do it successfully wiht a mac. I dunno how though. but they can do it every single time. Take care all On Feb 9, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Assuming that your friend installed IOS5 and enabled "find my iphone" in settings-->iCloud, this is sort of possible by going to the icloud.com site and signing on with an Apple ID and selecting "find my iphone". > > From my testing, this now only appears to be possible using either Google Chrome or Webkit/Safari. Be ware of a few rather severe accessibility barriers though. If a passcode is already set on the phone, one can select "find my iPhone" and after pressing the unlabeled button below the device (EG joe blows iPhone located 2 minutes ago) select "remote lock and then press a button to confirm. If a passcode is not set, however, the site prompts for a passcode and confirmation. Sadly, these fields are not accessible to voiceOver or any other screen reading technology that I've tested so far. Even guessing and entering four digit numbers in the two likely places doesn't work. > > On the Windows side (running XP pro), I can use Chrome with the same limitation described above (IE if a passcode is not already set I'm completely SOL), but I wouldn't dare try this using Mozilla Firefox 10.0. When I select "remote lock" I keep receiving the admonishment for "remote wipe" and chicken out. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sarah Alawami > To: mac access list iOS Accessibility > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:05 PM > Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? > > > Hello. I heard somewhere that you can remotely lock an iPhone from your mac. I've searched all over google but cannot find a way to do this. I'm asking on behalf of a friend how to do this and I'm curious myself lol! > > Take care all. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From d.griffith at btinternet.com Thu Feb 9 21:28:30 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 21:28:30 +0000 Subject: Apple Mail Favorites bar question. In-Reply-To: References: <5B5DB95AAA4645C19BCF49DA559FB460@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: Not very helpful I know but I did achieve this. the tricky thing is dropping it into the place you want. So perhaps persevere with trying unless they have broken it somehow .. David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com On 9 Feb 2012, at 17:08, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I read that you have to drag the email box off of it to remove and on to it to add, but I tried and it failed. Drag and drop does not seem to work for that task. > > Take care all;; > On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> How does one move or delete a mailbox from the favorites bar in Apple Mail? >> >> thanks all over the place gang. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Thu Feb 9 21:42:05 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:42:05 -1000 Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? In-Reply-To: <63051C242FC046CEA51AB8D13957F2C0@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <0523EB03-3873-494B-A4C1-1EF0DE5D73FA@gmail.com> <3D896BA0F4F34722AAAAC78BC9BA4AB0@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <78A7B7A1-BFBD-4CB6-96C5-BB869EFF268E@gmail.com> <63051C242FC046CEA51AB8D13957F2C0@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: Hi Geoff, I just tried this from Safari 5.1 on my MobileMe account, and my reaction is yuck! I did manage to lock my iPhone (with existing passcode), but it reminded me that one of the reasons I was putting off the upgrade to Lion, apart from genuinely needing to use some software that wasn't updated for Lion, was not wanting to go to Safari 5.0. Navigating Find my iPhone with VoiceOver in Safari 5.1 is genuinely a worse experience. I can use this site with Leopard running Safari 5.0.6 better and more consistently and with far fewer problems than I can using Safari 5.1 in Lion. Cheers, Esther On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > By "do it", are you saying this person can remotely set a pass code, or compose a message to appear on the iphone when playing a sound? I normally don't give up easily, but have tried this with four browsers on XP and Lion, and so far no tricks such as clicking the mouse or turning off virtual cursor in JFW13 have ever worked. I wrote to the Apple accessibility team on this issue some months back and of course received no reply. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sarah Alawami > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:32 PM > Subject: Re: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? > > > Acutally there was someone totally blind who can do it successfully wiht a mac. I dunno how though. but they can do it every single time. > > Take care all > On Feb 9, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Assuming that your friend installed IOS5 and enabled "find my iphone" in settings-->iCloud, this is sort of possible by going to the icloud.com site and signing on with an Apple ID and selecting "find my iphone". >> >> From my testing, this now only appears to be possible using either Google Chrome or Webkit/Safari. Be ware of a few rather severe accessibility barriers though. If a passcode is already set on the phone, one can select "find my iPhone" and after pressing the unlabeled button below the device (EG joe blows iPhone located 2 minutes ago) select "remote lock and then press a button to confirm. If a passcode is not set, however, the site prompts for a passcode and confirmation. Sadly, these fields are not accessible to voiceOver or any other screen reading technology that I've tested so far. Even guessing and entering four digit numbers in the two likely places doesn't work. >> >> On the Windows side (running XP pro), I can use Chrome with the same limitation described above (IE if a passcode is not already set I'm completely SOL), but I wouldn't dare try this using Mozilla Firefox 10.0. When I select "remote lock" I keep receiving the admonishment for "remote wipe" and chicken out. >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sarah Alawami >> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility >> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:05 PM >> Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? >> >> >> Hello. I heard somewhere that you can remotely lock an iPhone from your mac. I've searched all over google but cannot find a way to do this. I'm asking on behalf of a friend how to do this and I'm curious myself lol! >> >> Take care all. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 22:07:21 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:07:21 -0800 Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? In-Reply-To: <63051C242FC046CEA51AB8D13957F2C0@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <0523EB03-3873-494B-A4C1-1EF0DE5D73FA@gmail.com><3D896BA0F4F34722AAAAC78BC9BA4AB0@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <78A7B7A1-BFBD-4CB6-96C5-BB869EFF268E@gmail.com> <63051C242FC046CEA51AB8D13957F2C0@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: they can remotely lock there phone every single time. via the mac. I have no idea how and they are not forth coming at the moment lol! I asked them. On Feb 9, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > By "do it", are you saying this person can remotely set a pass code, or compose a message to appear on the iphone when playing a sound? I normally don't give up easily, but have tried this with four browsers on XP and Lion, and so far no tricks such as clicking the mouse or turning off virtual cursor in JFW13 have ever worked. I wrote to the Apple accessibility team on this issue some months back and of course received no reply. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sarah Alawami > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:32 PM > Subject: Re: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? > > > Acutally there was someone totally blind who can do it successfully wiht a mac. I dunno how though. but they can do it every single time. > > Take care all > On Feb 9, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Assuming that your friend installed IOS5 and enabled "find my iphone" in settings-->iCloud, this is sort of possible by going to the icloud.com site and signing on with an Apple ID and selecting "find my iphone". >> >> From my testing, this now only appears to be possible using either Google Chrome or Webkit/Safari. Be ware of a few rather severe accessibility barriers though. If a passcode is already set on the phone, one can select "find my iPhone" and after pressing the unlabeled button below the device (EG joe blows iPhone located 2 minutes ago) select "remote lock and then press a button to confirm. If a passcode is not set, however, the site prompts for a passcode and confirmation. Sadly, these fields are not accessible to voiceOver or any other screen reading technology that I've tested so far. Even guessing and entering four digit numbers in the two likely places doesn't work. >> >> On the Windows side (running XP pro), I can use Chrome with the same limitation described above (IE if a passcode is not already set I'm completely SOL), but I wouldn't dare try this using Mozilla Firefox 10.0. When I select "remote lock" I keep receiving the admonishment for "remote wipe" and chicken out. >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sarah Alawami >> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility >> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:05 PM >> Subject: remotely locking an iPhone from your mac? >> >> >> Hello. I heard somewhere that you can remotely lock an iPhone from your mac. I've searched all over google but cannot find a way to do this. I'm asking on behalf of a friend how to do this and I'm curious myself lol! >> >> Take care all. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. >> If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 22:08:11 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:08:11 -0800 Subject: Apple Mail Favorites bar question. In-Reply-To: References: <5B5DB95AAA4645C19BCF49DA559FB460@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: I have not gotten it to work since lion came out. not removing or adding stuff. I wish it could be in a menu bar or context menu or what not. On Feb 9, 2012, at 1:28 PM, David Griffith wrote: > Not very helpful I know but I did achieve this. the tricky thing is dropping it into the place you want. So perhaps persevere with trying unless they have broken it somehow .. > David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > > > > On 9 Feb 2012, at 17:08, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I read that you have to drag the email box off of it to remove and on to it to add, but I tried and it failed. Drag and drop does not seem to work for that task. >> >> Take care all;; >> On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> How does one move or delete a mailbox from the favorites bar in Apple Mail? >>> >>> thanks all over the place gang. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Fri Feb 10 00:38:53 2012 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 18:38:53 -0600 Subject: My PC died In-Reply-To: <2C102C87-DCE4-4C2A-9E74-8A3874855BA3@gmail.com> References: <2C102C87-DCE4-4C2A-9E74-8A3874855BA3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49660888-84CC-41A4-831F-B41E8C9CED90@charter.net> You could get a mac mini, these are priced decently and you could install windows 7 on it, I would not get another pc, that's for sure. On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I'm looking for some honest advice here. My desktop PC is dead. It's four years old, so I'm not going to try and put a new hard drive in it or fix memory or whatever is wrong. It doesn't even pretend to boot. There are some apps that I still use that are PC. I haven't found anything Apple to replace them with as yet. Given that, would I be better off to still get an Apple and put a Windows 7 OS on it to run these? Or, would it be better to go with another PC? I want to do what makes the most sense, but I do love the accessibility of the Apple and if I could bring it home and do all the setup myself, it'd sure be cool. > > If I went with an Apple, would it be best to get an iMac? It seems like the closest to a PC desktop. > > Kristeen > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 01:28:41 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 20:28:41 -0500 Subject: My PC died In-Reply-To: <71E6A468E31848388530D5C8FDB77EEE@karen796b6a58c> References: <2C102C87-DCE4-4C2A-9E74-8A3874855BA3@gmail.com> <71E6A468E31848388530D5C8FDB77EEE@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: <6FAF9804-5B74-4FAC-9DE7-32D6AC40B3D3@gmail.com> Unfortunately, it isn't that easy, though I wish it were. The computer will turn on but will not run the POST (Power On Self Test. There's no problem with the power. It's the hard drive or memory or motherboard. I've worked with hardware for quite a few years and I know these symptoms quite well. I just don't want to put money into a computer that is several years old and which has run almost 24/7 all of that time. Kristeen On Feb 9, 2012, at 4:13 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > Kristeen, > Not that I wish to discourage you from replacing your PC if that is what you really want to do. However, the fix for your PC could be as simple as a new power cord or a power supply, both of which are inexpensive easy fixes. > > Good luck with whatever you choose. > > Karen > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristeen Hughes" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 2:56 PM > Subject: My PC died > > >> I'm looking for some honest advice here. My desktop PC is dead. It's four years old, so I'm not going to try and put a new hard drive in it or fix memory or whatever is wrong. It doesn't even pretend to boot. There are some apps that I still use that are PC. I haven't found anything Apple to replace them with as yet. Given that, would I be better off to still get an Apple and put a Windows 7 OS on it to run these? Or, would it be better to go with another PC? I want to do what makes the most sense, but I do love the accessibility of the Apple and if I could bring it home and do all the setup myself, it'd sure be cool. >> >> If I went with an Apple, would it be best to get an iMac? It seems like the closest to a PC desktop. >> >> Kristeen >> >> Kristeen Hughes >> khwicca at gmail.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Fri Feb 10 01:40:25 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 20:40:25 -0500 Subject: My PC died In-Reply-To: <49660888-84CC-41A4-831F-B41E8C9CED90@charter.net> References: <2C102C87-DCE4-4C2A-9E74-8A3874855BA3@gmail.com> <49660888-84CC-41A4-831F-B41E8C9CED90@charter.net> Message-ID: <2A8E9078-9C42-4DDF-84C8-A05FA9449E4F@Mac-Access.net> Mike and Christine, If Christine goes with the Mini can she use her old monitor to attach to the mini? this might solve the occasional display issue I've heard about with the mini plus make the Mini accessible to sighted users. The mini is probably a practical option for many blind users for price and small footprint on the desk. Also, I'm with Mike on this. I still use Windows apps but run them on my Mac Book. I don't miss my PC at home. Plus between the Mac and VM Fusion I rarely need sighted help. At work I often need sighted help as Jaws stops talking at in opportune moments. Which Mac to get is really a individual decision, there are so many variables. Eric Caron On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > You could get a mac mini, these are priced decently and you could install windows 7 on it, I would not get another pc, that's for sure. > On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> I'm looking for some honest advice here. My desktop PC is dead. It's four years old, so I'm not going to try and put a new hard drive in it or fix memory or whatever is wrong. It doesn't even pretend to boot. There are some apps that I still use that are PC. I haven't found anything Apple to replace them with as yet. Given that, would I be better off to still get an Apple and put a Windows 7 OS on it to run these? Or, would it be better to go with another PC? I want to do what makes the most sense, but I do love the accessibility of the Apple and if I could bring it home and do all the setup myself, it'd sure be cool. >> >> If I went with an Apple, would it be best to get an iMac? It seems like the closest to a PC desktop. >> >> Kristeen >> >> Kristeen Hughes >> khwicca at gmail.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 02:13:33 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 21:13:33 -0500 Subject: My PC died In-Reply-To: <49660888-84CC-41A4-831F-B41E8C9CED90@charter.net> References: <2C102C87-DCE4-4C2A-9E74-8A3874855BA3@gmail.com> <49660888-84CC-41A4-831F-B41E8C9CED90@charter.net> Message-ID: <5F1A8ED2-5D60-45B7-98FA-6615629E53E0@gmail.com> If I'm remembering correctly, the minis that are out there now do not have a cd/dvd drive. Is this true? I bought my mimi a little over a year ago and so it has one. I'm thinking about iMacs. Do any of you have one? Kristeen On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > You could get a mac mini, these are priced decently and you could install windows 7 on it, I would not get another pc, that's for sure. > On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> I'm looking for some honest advice here. My desktop PC is dead. It's four years old, so I'm not going to try and put a new hard drive in it or fix memory or whatever is wrong. It doesn't even pretend to boot. There are some apps that I still use that are PC. I haven't found anything Apple to replace them with as yet. Given that, would I be better off to still get an Apple and put a Windows 7 OS on it to run these? Or, would it be better to go with another PC? I want to do what makes the most sense, but I do love the accessibility of the Apple and if I could bring it home and do all the setup myself, it'd sure be cool. >> >> If I went with an Apple, would it be best to get an iMac? It seems like the closest to a PC desktop. >> >> Kristeen >> >> Kristeen Hughes >> khwicca at gmail.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 05:24:50 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:24:50 -0600 Subject: My PC died In-Reply-To: <5F1A8ED2-5D60-45B7-98FA-6615629E53E0@gmail.com> References: <2C102C87-DCE4-4C2A-9E74-8A3874855BA3@gmail.com> <49660888-84CC-41A4-831F-B41E8C9CED90@charter.net> <5F1A8ED2-5D60-45B7-98FA-6615629E53E0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0DE00662-8A80-47A6-923A-E509619E7763@gmail.com> Have an i-mac here that I bought last October, have another one here that still works that we bought in December of 2002, it is a power pc can't evolve it's o s any farther than what it is. Love this new one though, went with the 21 inch and invested the money into getting the larger amount of ram which keeps things licking along nice and fast. As for Minis, if it has a usb port you can get an external burner although it may show up as unsupported. Had to use one with the old i-mac because it's cd drive doesn't work right and hasn't worked at all for past year or so. Having a drawer type drive and eject on keyboard with several cats in the house isn't necessarily good think that's what ruined that drive. New i-mac disks just slid into the side, the computer is all in the monitor, the only thing else is just a stand coming out of the back so it's pretty slick actually. On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > If I'm remembering correctly, the minis that are out there now do not have a cd/dvd drive. Is this true? I bought my mimi a little over a year ago and so it has one. I'm thinking about iMacs. Do any of you have one? > > Kristeen > > On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> You could get a mac mini, these are priced decently and you could install windows 7 on it, I would not get another pc, that's for sure. >> On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >> >>> I'm looking for some honest advice here. My desktop PC is dead. It's four years old, so I'm not going to try and put a new hard drive in it or fix memory or whatever is wrong. It doesn't even pretend to boot. There are some apps that I still use that are PC. I haven't found anything Apple to replace them with as yet. Given that, would I be better off to still get an Apple and put a Windows 7 OS on it to run these? Or, would it be better to go with another PC? I want to do what makes the most sense, but I do love the accessibility of the Apple and if I could bring it home and do all the setup myself, it'd sure be cool. >>> >>> If I went with an Apple, would it be best to get an iMac? It seems like the closest to a PC desktop. >>> >>> Kristeen >>> >>> Kristeen Hughes >>> khwicca at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 06:31:35 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:31:35 +1100 Subject: help with Skype and analogue mic. In-Reply-To: References: <98B504C9-94EC-4DB7-8BF5-77BD14263097@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6BF44717-FE20-4403-9542-DE4BC75759A7@gmail.com> HI. so i can get this from the app store? thanks i will. Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl On 10/02/2012, at 3:29 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Download an app called line in. from rog amiba. YOu can test yoru devices that way. and set the line in volume to about 100 percent not 50. then see if it works. > On Feb 9, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> my mic doesn't seem to be working in skype. I can't hear myself in the skype test call, and no one else can hear me either. Tried looking in the options and it says input device 0 percent but i can't seem to find a way to change it. the mic is plugged in to the right jack and when i go in to sound in system preferences it says line in and i have the volume set to about half way. Is there a way i can test to see if the mic is working? This particular mic works on my pc. Is there a built in app that i can use to test the mic? >> >> thanks for any ideas. >> >> >> Maria Chapman >> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> will get you fb as well as email >> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Feb 10 08:15:01 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:15:01 +0000 Subject: podcast. Message-ID: <0E60DB72-8C06-438A-96F4-758E4E6110D5@googlemail.com> Hi just subscribed to a podcast which has downloaded the second eppasoad and when i go to try for the first one it says dimmd uncheck checkbox undownloaded epppasoad one is there anyway i can still get the first eppasoad to download. Ian McNamara From christoap at sky.com Fri Feb 10 08:26:16 2012 From: christoap at sky.com (Christo Thiardt) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:26:16 +0000 Subject: DAISY for the Mac Message-ID: <26B83DCB-7849-4129-BA4C-03BE6E406728@sky.com> Dear All is there a DAISY software program available for the Mac? And if so, where can I find it? Thanks for help Christo From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 08:24:03 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:24:03 -0600 Subject: podcast. In-Reply-To: <0E60DB72-8C06-438A-96F4-758E4E6110D5@googlemail.com> References: <0E60DB72-8C06-438A-96F4-758E4E6110D5@googlemail.com> Message-ID: What cast is it? Perhaps go up to the group name of the podcast, v o shift m and click show all episodes, then again v o shift m and download all available episodes. If it doesn't download, then perhaps it is no longer at the source anymore. On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:15 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi just subscribed to a podcast which has downloaded the second episode and when i go to try for the first one it says dimmd uncheck checkbox undownloaded episode one is there anyway i can still get the first episode to download. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 09:22:46 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:22:46 +0000 Subject: oddities in dates Message-ID: hi for 10th may 2012 my mac is now saying a membership i put on hold will start october 5th why is it doing this? i using lion From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 10:16:02 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:16:02 +1100 Subject: help with Skype and analogue mic. update In-Reply-To: References: <98B504C9-94EC-4DB7-8BF5-77BD14263097@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi. got the line in app, and the mic doesn't appear to be working. the line in port on a mac mini is supposed to be for a mic right? got someone sighted to have a look and everything appears to be fine with the volume settings etc. Can a normal headset mic be used ok with a mac mini or do i have to buy a usb mic? in short i'm wondering if the line in port is faulty? is there anything else i can try? Are there anymore settings we need to look at? thanks. ps i tried 2 different mics both just standard headsets not usb that work on a windows laptop. Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl On 10/02/2012, at 3:29 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Download an app called line in. from rog amiba. YOu can test yoru devices that way. and set the line in volume to about 100 percent not 50. then see if it works. > On Feb 9, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> my mic doesn't seem to be working in skype. I can't hear myself in the skype test call, and no one else can hear me either. Tried looking in the options and it says input device 0 percent but i can't seem to find a way to change it. the mic is plugged in to the right jack and when i go in to sound in system preferences it says line in and i have the volume set to about half way. Is there a way i can test to see if the mic is working? This particular mic works on my pc. Is there a built in app that i can use to test the mic? >> >> thanks for any ideas. >> >> >> Maria Chapman >> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> will get you fb as well as email >> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Fri Feb 10 11:32:43 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:32:43 +0000 Subject: DAISY for the Mac In-Reply-To: <26B83DCB-7849-4129-BA4C-03BE6E406728@sky.com> References: <26B83DCB-7849-4129-BA4C-03BE6E406728@sky.com> Message-ID: Try Googlin Olearia David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com On 10 Feb 2012, at 08:26, Christo Thiardt wrote: > Dear All > > is there a DAISY software program available for the Mac? And if so, where can I find it? > > Thanks for help > > Christo > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcsut at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 16:15:17 2012 From: marcsut at gmail.com (Marc Sutton) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:15:17 -0800 Subject: DAISY for the Mac In-Reply-To: References: <26B83DCB-7849-4129-BA4C-03BE6E406728@sky.com> Message-ID: Hi, I downloaded the Olearia app. Anyone know how to get bookshare or NFB newsline publications to work with the app? Trying to open both types of files produced an error. Marc On Feb 10, 2012, at 3:32 AM, David Griffith wrote: > Try Googlin Olearia > David Griffith > d.griffith at btinternet.com > > > > On 10 Feb 2012, at 08:26, Christo Thiardt wrote: > >> Dear All >> >> is there a DAISY software program available for the Mac? And if so, where can I find it? >> >> Thanks for help >> >> Christo >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 18:30:26 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:30:26 -0800 Subject: help with Skype and analogue mic. update In-Reply-To: References: <98B504C9-94EC-4DB7-8BF5-77BD14263097@gmail.com> Message-ID: If it is that kind of mic you need to plug one ned in to the headphone jack snd one end in to the mic jack. Did you set the max in your input tab le to 100 percent as you will need that as line levels are extremly low by nature. On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:16 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: > Hi. got the line in app, and the mic doesn't appear to be working. the line in port on a mac mini is supposed to be for a mic right? got someone sighted to have a look and everything appears to be fine with the volume settings etc. Can a normal headset mic be used ok with a mac mini or do i have to buy a usb mic? in short i'm wondering if the line in port is faulty? is there anything else i can try? > Are there anymore settings we need to look at? > thanks. > > ps i tried 2 different mics both just standard headsets not usb that work on a windows laptop. > > Maria Chapman > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > will get you fb as well as email > skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl > > > > > On 10/02/2012, at 3:29 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Download an app called line in. from rog amiba. YOu can test yoru devices that way. and set the line in volume to about 100 percent not 50. then see if it works. >> On Feb 9, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> my mic doesn't seem to be working in skype. I can't hear myself in the skype test call, and no one else can hear me either. Tried looking in the options and it says input device 0 percent but i can't seem to find a way to change it. the mic is plugged in to the right jack and when i go in to sound in system preferences it says line in and i have the volume set to about half way. Is there a way i can test to see if the mic is working? This particular mic works on my pc. Is there a built in app that i can use to test the mic? >>> >>> thanks for any ideas. >>> >>> >>> Maria Chapman >>> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>> will get you fb as well as email >>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 18:31:07 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:31:07 -0800 Subject: oddities in dates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A6A7B9F-5753-40E2-A811-75AA2652EFD3@gmail.com> What language do you have it set to. Dates are often set and spoken differently in different parts of the usa and uk. On Feb 10, 2012, at 1:22 AM, william lomas wrote: > hi for 10th may 2012 my mac is now saying a membership i put on hold will start october 5th why is it doing this? > i using lion > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 18:31:46 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:31:46 -0800 Subject: podcast. In-Reply-To: References: <0E60DB72-8C06-438A-96F4-758E4E6110D5@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <2B91715E-8D0C-40D7-9FEA-F1D7811C33D3@gmail.com> Or control click the first ep and hit enter on download. If you cannot that means it broke and you have to contact the podcast owner. On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: > What cast is it? Perhaps go up to the group name of the podcast, v o shift m and click show all episodes, then again v o shift m and download all available episodes. If it doesn't download, then perhaps it is no longer at the source anymore. > On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:15 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> Hi just subscribed to a podcast which has downloaded the second episode and when i go to try for the first one it says dimmd uncheck checkbox undownloaded episode one is there anyway i can still get the first episode to download. >> >> Ian McNamara >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Feb 10 18:50:04 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:50:04 +0000 Subject: podcast. In-Reply-To: <2B91715E-8D0C-40D7-9FEA-F1D7811C33D3@gmail.com> References: <0E60DB72-8C06-438A-96F4-758E4E6110D5@googlemail.com> <2B91715E-8D0C-40D7-9FEA-F1D7811C33D3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <65CB99C9-E3FE-4759-90A8-B3C4CA8E1AE5@googlemail.com> Hi thanks I went to update podcast and it worked. Ian McNamara From khwicca at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 19:11:24 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:11:24 -0500 Subject: Putting things on the doc Message-ID: I can't remember how to do this and would like to add a couple of apps. Kristeen Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 20:26:12 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:26:12 -0800 Subject: Putting things on the doc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In snow leopard cmd shift to n the app in question, or file if you want to do that as well. Ibn leopard you open the app or file, navigate to it in the doc, vo shift m and I think under options hit keep in dock. Take care. On Feb 10, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I can't remember how to do this and would like to add a couple of apps. > > Kristeen > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 21:48:20 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:48:20 -0800 Subject: a perplexing iTunes issue Message-ID: Hello to all. I want to convert a 30 or 40 page rtf document to speach using the workflow. that ships with lion. I'm running os 10.7.3 and I noticed that it will convert a 30 second clip fine but it stops 8 or sometimes even 20 seconds in to the selected 30 page document. I made sure all text was selected. What do I need to do to fix this? I need to get this done way before monday. Thanks all. From d.griffith at btinternet.com Fri Feb 10 23:25:03 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:25:03 -0000 Subject: a perplexing iTunes issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <97D38470633142D2B6EA4D6915DB38D8@acer4d025c48b8> I think this may be a limitation. I am also using Lion and when I tried to do this with a 30 page text document last week it completely failed. As you say small clips are fine but anything substantial and I-tunes does not appear able to cope . I guess I could split the file up into smaller segments but I am afraid I could not be bothered and went instead to use the free speech utility in fusion under Windows. Regards David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: 10 February 2012 21:48 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: a perplexing iTunes issue Hello to all. I want to convert a 30 or 40 page rtf document to speach using the workflow. that ships with lion. I'm running os 10.7.3 and I noticed that it will convert a 30 second clip fine but it stops 8 or sometimes even 20 seconds in to the selected 30 page document. I made sure all text was selected. What do I need to do to fix this? I need to get this done way before monday. Thanks all. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From zkline at speedpost.net Fri Feb 10 23:27:19 2012 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:27:19 -0800 Subject: a perplexing iTunes issue In-Reply-To: <97D38470633142D2B6EA4D6915DB38D8@acer4d025c48b8> References: <97D38470633142D2B6EA4D6915DB38D8@acer4d025c48b8> Message-ID: Hi David and all, There are also third-party utilities designed to do this sort of thing, such as SayIt, which is available in the Mac App Store. I've used this to convert large texts before, without any of these strange issues. I'm not sure why they should be happening, but wanted to share my two cents. Yours, Zack. On Feb 10, 2012, at 3:25 PM, David Griffith wrote: > I think this may be a limitation. I am also using Lion and when I tried to > do this with a 30 page text document last week it completely failed. > As you say small clips are fine but anything substantial and I-tunes does > not appear able to cope . > I guess I could split the file up into smaller segments but I am afraid I > could not be bothered and went instead to use the free speech utility in > fusion under Windows. > > Regards > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: 10 February 2012 21:48 > To: mac access list iOS Accessibility > Subject: a perplexing iTunes issue > > Hello to all. > > I want to convert a 30 or 40 page rtf document to speach using the > workflow. that ships with lion. I'm running os 10.7.3 and I noticed that > it will convert a 30 second clip fine but it stops 8 or sometimes even 20 > seconds in to the selected 30 page document. I made sure all text was > selected. What do I need to do to fix this? I need to get this done way > before monday. > > Thanks all. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 23:34:06 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:34:06 -0800 Subject: a perplexing iTunes issue In-Reply-To: <97D38470633142D2B6EA4D6915DB38D8@acer4d025c48b8> References: <97D38470633142D2B6EA4D6915DB38D8@acer4d025c48b8> Message-ID: <500A023D-F626-4871-AA1A-0019FF7A0F2E@gmail.com> Acutally I round the work around maybe. I left the dialogue there for about half an hour and came back and the full 30 page document showed up as an m4a file. If I have to do this every time tha'ts rediculous but Im willing to be patient. On Feb 10, 2012, at 3:25 PM, David Griffith wrote: > I think this may be a limitation. I am also using Lion and when I tried to > do this with a 30 page text document last week it completely failed. > As you say small clips are fine but anything substantial and I-tunes does > not appear able to cope . > I guess I could split the file up into smaller segments but I am afraid I > could not be bothered and went instead to use the free speech utility in > fusion under Windows. > > Regards > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: 10 February 2012 21:48 > To: mac access list iOS Accessibility > Subject: a perplexing iTunes issue > > Hello to all. > > I want to convert a 30 or 40 page rtf document to speach using the > workflow. that ships with lion. I'm running os 10.7.3 and I noticed that > it will convert a 30 second clip fine but it stops 8 or sometimes even 20 > seconds in to the selected 30 page document. I made sure all text was > selected. What do I need to do to fix this? I need to get this done way > before monday. > > Thanks all. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Feb 11 00:15:50 2012 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:15:50 -0600 Subject: My PC died In-Reply-To: <5F1A8ED2-5D60-45B7-98FA-6615629E53E0@gmail.com> References: <2C102C87-DCE4-4C2A-9E74-8A3874855BA3@gmail.com> <49660888-84CC-41A4-831F-B41E8C9CED90@charter.net> <5F1A8ED2-5D60-45B7-98FA-6615629E53E0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6EFFB535-3A87-476D-9C62-ABDD67B634D8@charter.net> Yes, the current minis no longer have this, I think apple removed it too soon, should have waited another year or 2 On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > If I'm remembering correctly, the minis that are out there now do not have a cd/dvd drive. Is this true? I bought my mimi a little over a year ago and so it has one. I'm thinking about iMacs. Do any of you have one? > > Kristeen > > On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> You could get a mac mini, these are priced decently and you could install windows 7 on it, I would not get another pc, that's for sure. >> On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >> >>> I'm looking for some honest advice here. My desktop PC is dead. It's four years old, so I'm not going to try and put a new hard drive in it or fix memory or whatever is wrong. It doesn't even pretend to boot. There are some apps that I still use that are PC. I haven't found anything Apple to replace them with as yet. Given that, would I be better off to still get an Apple and put a Windows 7 OS on it to run these? Or, would it be better to go with another PC? I want to do what makes the most sense, but I do love the accessibility of the Apple and if I could bring it home and do all the setup myself, it'd sure be cool. >>> >>> If I went with an Apple, would it be best to get an iMac? It seems like the closest to a PC desktop. >>> >>> Kristeen >>> >>> Kristeen Hughes >>> khwicca at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 00:53:28 2012 From: jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com (Jonathan Tyrer) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:53:28 +0000 Subject: My PC died In-Reply-To: <6EFFB535-3A87-476D-9C62-ABDD67B634D8@charter.net> References: <2C102C87-DCE4-4C2A-9E74-8A3874855BA3@gmail.com> <49660888-84CC-41A4-831F-B41E8C9CED90@charter.net> <5F1A8ED2-5D60-45B7-98FA-6615629E53E0@gmail.com> <6EFFB535-3A87-476D-9C62-ABDD67B634D8@charter.net> Message-ID: Kristeen If you have a Pc and a screen reader you know how to use, together with some apps you need to use, then there is no advantage at all in replaceing your PC with a Mac. There is nothing you can do on a Mac that you can't do on a PC. Addedd to this is the time it will take to learn a new operating system, new screen reader and new apps. Plus, the very real possibility that even if you get a Mac, yu will still need to run Windows in some way because you need to use a Windows app such as Word or Excell. If you know Windows and your screen reader and the apps you use, why on earth would you buy an expensive mac computer with an operating system you don't know, a screen reader that is limited and no access to the productivity applications the vast majority of people in work rely on? The only reason is that you have the time and money to want to experiment and that is completely OK with me. Jonathan On 11/02/2012, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Yes, the current minis no longer have this, I think apple removed it too > soon, should have waited another year or 2 > On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> If I'm remembering correctly, the minis that are out there now do not have >> a cd/dvd drive. Is this true? I bought my mimi a little over a year ago >> and so it has one. I'm thinking about iMacs. Do any of you have one? >> >> Kristeen >> >> On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> You could get a mac mini, these are priced decently and you could install >>> windows 7 on it, I would not get another pc, that's for sure. >>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >>> >>>> I'm looking for some honest advice here. My desktop PC is dead. It's >>>> four years old, so I'm not going to try and put a new hard drive in it >>>> or fix memory or whatever is wrong. It doesn't even pretend to boot. >>>> There are some apps that I still use that are PC. I haven't found >>>> anything Apple to replace them with as yet. Given that, would I be >>>> better off to still get an Apple and put a Windows 7 OS on it to run >>>> these? Or, would it be better to go with another PC? I want to do what >>>> makes the most sense, but I do love the accessibility of the Apple and >>>> if I could bring it home and do all the setup myself, it'd sure be cool. >>>> >>>> If I went with an Apple, would it be best to get an iMac? It seems like >>>> the closest to a PC desktop. >>>> >>>> Kristeen >>>> >>>> Kristeen Hughes >>>> khwicca at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Kristeen Hughes >> khwicca at gmail.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 08:19:15 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:19:15 +1100 Subject: twitter? Message-ID: HI. what is everyone using for twitter on the mac? and i've heard of growl but am not sure what it is? thanks for the input. Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sat Feb 11 10:10:12 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:10:12 +1100 Subject: help with Skype and analogue mic. update In-Reply-To: References: <98B504C9-94EC-4DB7-8BF5-77BD14263097@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B3FC358-9820-4206-A662-DD3A58682DE2@gmail.com> Hi. I did all that, then i googled and found that in a lot of cases these mics don't do well with the line in ports, so i went and bought a usb mic. Now I can have voice over going through the usb headset and music and stuff going through the external speaker if i want. Yes, i have done this before with a pc but I don't know the mac seems to handle it much more smoothly for some reason. I can now chat on skype and it sounds pretty clear apparently. thanks everyone for your help. Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl On 11/02/2012, at 5:30 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > If it is that kind of mic you need to plug one ned in to the headphone jack snd one end in to the mic jack. Did you set the max in your input tab le to 100 percent as you will need that as line levels are extremly low by nature. > On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:16 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: > >> Hi. got the line in app, and the mic doesn't appear to be working. the line in port on a mac mini is supposed to be for a mic right? got someone sighted to have a look and everything appears to be fine with the volume settings etc. Can a normal headset mic be used ok with a mac mini or do i have to buy a usb mic? in short i'm wondering if the line in port is faulty? is there anything else i can try? >> Are there anymore settings we need to look at? >> thanks. >> >> ps i tried 2 different mics both just standard headsets not usb that work on a windows laptop. >> >> Maria Chapman >> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> will get you fb as well as email >> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >> >> >> >> >> On 10/02/2012, at 3:29 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Download an app called line in. from rog amiba. YOu can test yoru devices that way. and set the line in volume to about 100 percent not 50. then see if it works. >>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: >>> >>>> Hi. >>>> >>>> my mic doesn't seem to be working in skype. I can't hear myself in the skype test call, and no one else can hear me either. Tried looking in the options and it says input device 0 percent but i can't seem to find a way to change it. the mic is plugged in to the right jack and when i go in to sound in system preferences it says line in and i have the volume set to about half way. Is there a way i can test to see if the mic is working? This particular mic works on my pc. Is there a built in app that i can use to test the mic? >>>> >>>> thanks for any ideas. >>>> >>>> >>>> Maria Chapman >>>> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>> will get you fb as well as email >>>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sat Feb 11 16:52:19 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:52:19 -0500 Subject: System Max free App today Message-ID: Hi listers, System Max is a app that gives you all kinds of information about your phone. I downloaded it today because it is currently free. I thought it would be worth checking out. I'm not experienced with such applications but thought it might be useful and I thought some of you might be interested. I read about the app in the daily update provided by another free app called AppsGonefree. System Max seemed to be working ok with Voice Over though the labels were not the best. Someone who understands such apps better would need to report back. I hope some of you find this useful. Eric Caron From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Feb 11 19:20:18 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:20:18 +0000 Subject: iPhone jail break / unlock software Message-ID: <47F1095C-E938-4748-9F66-A0C9823EF3D2@hopewell.org.uk> Hello All, Have any of you used software to jail break and then unlock an iPhone running IOS 5.0.1? If so which software / service did you use and is it possible to do the entire process using VoiceOver without sighted assistance? I am having terrible trouble getting Orange in the UK to unlock my pay as you go iPhone. they keep promising but never deliver and never tell me anything. I want to use the giffgaff network instead as it is much cheaper for pay as you go with unlimited Internet and text messages. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Feb 11 20:24:11 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:24:11 +0000 Subject: Need help with Amadeus Pro Message-ID: Hello Amadeus Pro Users, I would appreciate a few tips on using Amadeus Pro with VoiceOver. I can replay the music I have recorded and can position named markers at desirable points. I have discovered the markers and selection windows but cannot fathom out how to effectively use these. If I look at the markers window I can see the named markers I have added along with quite a few other markers which are mistakes and which I would like to remove. How does one remove a named marker? Having got rid of the rubbish markers I would like to delete the music between a couple of my named markers. I can do that with some difficulty by noting the time position of the markers of interest from the markers window and then using that to edit the start and end times of the selection in the selection window. However that is tedious and error prone. I hope there is an easier way. Then I would like to start playing the music from one of my named markers first to check that the marker is in the correct place and then to continue playing and editing the music starting at the marker of interest rather than starting at the beginning of the music. I would much appreciate any tips. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Sat Feb 11 23:14:03 2012 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:14:03 +1100 Subject: twitter? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Maria How are you? I use YoruFukurou for twitter. It is totally accessible and easy to use. I hope this helps. Cheers Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Maria Chapman Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2012 7:19 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: twitter? HI. what is everyone using for twitter on the mac? and i've heard of growl but am not sure what it is? thanks for the input. Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 06:13:40 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:13:40 -0800 Subject: help with Skype and analogue mic. update In-Reply-To: <4B3FC358-9820-4206-A662-DD3A58682DE2@gmail.com> References: <98B504C9-94EC-4DB7-8BF5-77BD14263097@gmail.com> <4B3FC358-9820-4206-A662-DD3A58682DE2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <07F26759-A8AD-42AC-A0D2-2E716171B6FC@gmail.com> Cool. glad you go t it working. i didn't know that there were issues as I don't use a desktop mic. i use a studio mixer connected to my mac lol! Again glad you got it fixed. On Feb 11, 2012, at 2:10 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: > Hi. I did all that, then i googled and found that in a lot of cases these mics don't do well with the line in ports, so i went and bought a usb mic. Now I can have voice over going through the usb headset and music and stuff going through the external speaker if i want. Yes, i have done this before with a pc but I don't know the mac seems to handle it much more smoothly for some reason. I can now chat on skype and it sounds pretty clear apparently. > > thanks everyone for your help. > Maria Chapman > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > will get you fb as well as email > skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl > > > > > On 11/02/2012, at 5:30 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> If it is that kind of mic you need to plug one ned in to the headphone jack snd one end in to the mic jack. Did you set the max in your input tab le to 100 percent as you will need that as line levels are extremly low by nature. >> On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:16 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: >> >>> Hi. got the line in app, and the mic doesn't appear to be working. the line in port on a mac mini is supposed to be for a mic right? got someone sighted to have a look and everything appears to be fine with the volume settings etc. Can a normal headset mic be used ok with a mac mini or do i have to buy a usb mic? in short i'm wondering if the line in port is faulty? is there anything else i can try? >>> Are there anymore settings we need to look at? >>> thanks. >>> >>> ps i tried 2 different mics both just standard headsets not usb that work on a windows laptop. >>> >>> Maria Chapman >>> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>> will get you fb as well as email >>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/02/2012, at 3:29 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Download an app called line in. from rog amiba. YOu can test yoru devices that way. and set the line in volume to about 100 percent not 50. then see if it works. >>>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> >>>>> my mic doesn't seem to be working in skype. I can't hear myself in the skype test call, and no one else can hear me either. Tried looking in the options and it says input device 0 percent but i can't seem to find a way to change it. the mic is plugged in to the right jack and when i go in to sound in system preferences it says line in and i have the volume set to about half way. Is there a way i can test to see if the mic is working? This particular mic works on my pc. Is there a built in app that i can use to test the mic? >>>>> >>>>> thanks for any ideas. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Maria Chapman >>>>> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>>> will get you fb as well as email >>>>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 09:51:07 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:51:07 +1100 Subject: help with Skype and analogue mic. update In-Reply-To: <07F26759-A8AD-42AC-A0D2-2E716171B6FC@gmail.com> References: <98B504C9-94EC-4DB7-8BF5-77BD14263097@gmail.com> <4B3FC358-9820-4206-A662-DD3A58682DE2@gmail.com> <07F26759-A8AD-42AC-A0D2-2E716171B6FC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi. thanks. the line in app is pretty cool though. I was able to establish that the line in port works by hooking up my iphone. thanks for that recommendation. Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl On 12/02/2012, at 5:13 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Cool. glad you go t it working. i didn't know that there were issues as I don't use a desktop mic. i use a studio mixer connected to my mac lol! > > Again glad you got it fixed. > On Feb 11, 2012, at 2:10 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: > >> Hi. I did all that, then i googled and found that in a lot of cases these mics don't do well with the line in ports, so i went and bought a usb mic. Now I can have voice over going through the usb headset and music and stuff going through the external speaker if i want. Yes, i have done this before with a pc but I don't know the mac seems to handle it much more smoothly for some reason. I can now chat on skype and it sounds pretty clear apparently. >> >> thanks everyone for your help. >> Maria Chapman >> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> will get you fb as well as email >> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >> >> >> >> >> On 11/02/2012, at 5:30 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> If it is that kind of mic you need to plug one ned in to the headphone jack snd one end in to the mic jack. Did you set the max in your input tab le to 100 percent as you will need that as line levels are extremly low by nature. >>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:16 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: >>> >>>> Hi. got the line in app, and the mic doesn't appear to be working. the line in port on a mac mini is supposed to be for a mic right? got someone sighted to have a look and everything appears to be fine with the volume settings etc. Can a normal headset mic be used ok with a mac mini or do i have to buy a usb mic? in short i'm wondering if the line in port is faulty? is there anything else i can try? >>>> Are there anymore settings we need to look at? >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> ps i tried 2 different mics both just standard headsets not usb that work on a windows laptop. >>>> >>>> Maria Chapman >>>> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>> will get you fb as well as email >>>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/02/2012, at 3:29 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Download an app called line in. from rog amiba. YOu can test yoru devices that way. and set the line in volume to about 100 percent not 50. then see if it works. >>>>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi. >>>>>> >>>>>> my mic doesn't seem to be working in skype. I can't hear myself in the skype test call, and no one else can hear me either. Tried looking in the options and it says input device 0 percent but i can't seem to find a way to change it. the mic is plugged in to the right jack and when i go in to sound in system preferences it says line in and i have the volume set to about half way. Is there a way i can test to see if the mic is working? This particular mic works on my pc. Is there a built in app that i can use to test the mic? >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks for any ideas. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Maria Chapman >>>>>> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>>>> will get you fb as well as email >>>>>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 09:55:45 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:55:45 +1100 Subject: twitter? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi. Yes it does help, thanks. I have it now and it looks pretty good. Am still getting used to it after years of qwitter but am getting the hang of it. still not quite sure how to save a search but I'll figure it out. Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl On 12/02/2012, at 10:14 AM, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi Maria > > How are you? I use YoruFukurou for twitter. It is totally accessible and > easy to use. > > I hope this helps. > > Cheers > > Paula > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Maria Chapman > Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2012 7:19 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: twitter? > > HI. what is everyone using for twitter on the mac? and i've heard of growl > but am not sure what it is? > > thanks for the input. > > Maria Chapman > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > will get you fb as well as email > skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 10:06:10 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:06:10 +0000 Subject: download files Message-ID: <855758C7-6A9C-49D1-8563-5B2EAE0273EA@gmail.com> hi all in safari when i click a link to a file i want, it opens preview, yet when i trya nd right click to download linked file rather than open directly on the site, it just says the path to the file, not the PDF itself to download is this please normal? Running latest safari and Lion Will From mabuhay94 at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 09:27:08 2012 From: mabuhay94 at gmail.com (Daniela Rubio) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 10:27:08 +0100 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: <5D194DEF-A74A-46D1-B5FA-E87D559046EB@Mac-Access.net> References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> <5D194DEF-A74A-46D1-B5FA-E87D559046EB@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <5527A86B-9126-4502-9DBF-D9E71B8C2A4F@gmail.com> Hi! Regarding the motions of the devise, I can tell you by experience, that this, when turned on voluntarily, could be of great help for people, like my friend Nancy, who can not use correctly the touch screen. She uses asistive touch and I don't think that she or other users would be happy if the upgrade takes this out. I think that sometimes developers make innovations which they think are just going to be fun, but they end up being of great use for people with different characteristics. Thank you for reading. SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 02/02/2012, a las 03:14, Eric Caron escribi?: > Hi marcy, > > Remember I'm responding to these messages as a List Recorder user. I have opinions that are different from other users and the developer. > > Personally, I agree with Marcy. I find the gestures can activate things unexpectedly and I would rather just use the touch screen. The default setting on List Recorder is to have all the phone movements turned on. This means as you tilt the phone in different ways things happen. Luckily, in settings you can turn off all these motions or just those you don't want. > > I've turned them all off! > > To do this in List Recorder go to settings and keep swiping until you hear no motion mode. then one more swipe and you have the option to turn this off or on. To stop the motions turn the switch on. > > I'd really like to know if people like the motions or if people don't like them or turn them off. > > When I first got List Recorder it was the original version. I saw a lot of potential and contacted the developer. I've been trying to improve the App ever since. Frankly, I don't use the motions at all and found them slow and intrusive. Sadly, I think the developer put a lot of work into them and liked the idea of giving people a fun and unique way to move around the App. > > So, other users, do you use the motions or turn them off. Do they improve your experience or would you not miss them if they were gone? > > Eric Caron > On Feb 1, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > >> When in the app, it is sometimes difficult to use because with the slightest move of the phone, it ends up in edit mode, or list commands, or even wipe out. This makes it difficult to listen to the list, or add text or a recording. >> >> I think the app is great, and if there could be a way for this not to happen so easily, that would make the app even better, and certainly easier to use. >> >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Daniela Rubio wrote: >> >> List recorder is a great App. When we are able to append more to an existing file and the screen lock bug is fixed, I will use it much more! >> And, by the way, have you thought in translating in to other languages? You could have much more users who speak spanish. If you are interested, just get back to me. >> Cheers! >> >> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. >> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. >> EN TWITTER: @macneticos >> NUESTRO BLOG EN: >> www.macneticus.blogspot.com >> Y EL PODCAST EN:` >> http://macneticos.libsyn.com >> >> >> >> El 01/02/2012, a las 04:45, Sarah Alawami escribi?: >> >>> the shake when i n a call aint going to happen. The reason? apple does not let you record or play anything in a call. but I do like the rest of your suggestions. >>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Eric, >>>> >>>> Thanks for taking the time to do this. I was hoping to switch from ClearRecord to List Recorder for recording my class lectures this semester, but the lock screen issue bit me in my first class, causing me to unknowingly not record the entire class, so I haven't touched List Recorder since then. >>>> >>>> I like the current feature set and the suggestions you mentioned, but for me the app is currently not an option because of the lock screen bug. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Bryan >>>> >>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello listers, >>>>> >>>>> I am a enthusiastic List Recorder user. I've been gathering personal recommendations for the developer concerning improvements, fixes, and desired new features. I'm wondering if other List Recorder users would be willing to share such thoughts with me. >>>>> >>>>> How would you like to see this app improved? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here are some of my current favorite desired improvements >>>>> >>>>> Modest suggestions: >>>>> >>>>> I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. >>>>> I would like moved items to be automatically unchecked once they are moved >>>>> I would like to be placed on the first item of a list when I move to a list >>>>> Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization >>>>> I would like a option for a different sound for signaling the start of a recording. A clear click or pop would be just fine. >>>>> >>>>> Big suggestions: >>>>> >>>>> I would like to take written notes while I'm recording and later be able to review my written notes and if desired have the recording play back where I was when I made the note. >>>>> >>>>> I would like the option for a very fast quick record even when List recorder is in the background. For example I could be on a call and shake the phone and make a recording and have it be waiting in list recorder when I go back to the app. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would like the option to use the due date area to have my list recorder item become a calendar event >>>>> >>>>> Or, perhaps List Recorder items that come due could show up in notifications. >>>>> I would like to be able to back up all my items onto the computer easily and also restore them back to the phone. I realize part of this is all ready available, as we can back up to a computer. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to be able to import a recording to make part of a list. >>>>> For that matter it might be good to be able to import text as well. >>>>> >>>>> fixes: >>>>> >>>>> List recorder should return to the behavior broken in iOS5 where recording continues after the phone locks. Currently it stops recording. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for any suggestions big or small. >>>>> >>>>> Currently I use many devices to meet my work needs, Victor Reader, Olympus recorder, Milestone 312, and if I could only have one device I'd pick my iPhone with List Recorder. >>>>> >>>>> I have done a few rustic podcasts on using List Recorder version 2.2. I'm no professional. However, I'm told they will be eventually made available at sixth mode.com >>>>> >>>>> The developer truly listens to and acts on suggestions. please share yours with me. I'd love to keep this app discussion on list but if people would rather contact me off list that is fine. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> eric Caron >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> -- >> Marcy >> marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 03:47:08 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:47:08 +1100 Subject: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac In-Reply-To: <4CD95512-5EF0-4B87-820C-7E9AF6DD6AE3@gmail.com> References: <08538750-7A17-4EDE-BC39-3F26AF439A8A@verizon.net> <0F21ED0C-B82F-41A8-B5D1-CF57D61EC01C@verizon.net> <4CD95512-5EF0-4B87-820C-7E9AF6DD6AE3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0B59D5F6-CAD5-461B-80F8-66A9859DBA6A@gmail.com> Hi. What about answering a call? is there a short cut for that? or an easy way to answer? about to set up skype. thanks in advance Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl On 05/02/2012, at 8:10 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I actually answered that in my first message on this thread, I think. but if I forgot it's cmd shift h to hang up a call. Most of the time it works but sometimes it does not. > On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > >> How do I hang up on a call? >> >> Matthew Chao >> >> >> On Feb 4, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Vo shift m will do the trick once yu interact with the table or what not. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:44 AM, David Griffith wrote: >>> >>>> Just curious - what keys do you press to get a control click on VO? >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>>> Sent: 04 February 2012 19:12 >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: Keyboard Shortcuts for Skype on the Mac >>>> >>>> Just control click or hit vo shift m on the name you want to call from your >>>> contacts list and then hit enter on call. There then is a interface for >>>> when you do make calls. I have a podcast on how to use skype 5 here. Give it >>>> a bit of time to upload though. >>>> >>>> link: >>>> >>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/a_look_at_skype_5_for_mac.mp3 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Sarah. How do I use the menus, say, to call a person as compared to >>>> using the Dialpad button? For example, I have a Skype name I want to >>>> contact, but can't find the edit box in which to type in his name and hit >>>> Enter. Also, how do I hang up? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>> >>>>> Matthew Chao >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The only shortcut you can do to my knowledge is hang up but I've become >>>> proficient at the menus and the screens so can navigate with out the use of >>>> keyboard shortcuts. Also I use clisk found at http://dlee.org/skype which >>>> allows me to do a lot more via the command line or terminal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care. >>>>>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, Folks. Haven't used Skype on the Mac for a while, so thought I'd >>>> give it a try. However, when I get into Skype, there are no help screens or >>>> keyboard shortcuts. Am using a MacBook Pro. Can anyone help out here? Is >>>> Skype worth using here? Thanks in advance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Matthew Chao >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.trethowan at me.com Sun Feb 12 13:17:40 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:17:40 +1100 Subject: Apple TV bringing possibilities to your fingertips Message-ID: <039F761C-8861-49C1-9B60-08994478A3AA@me.com> Hi Everyone! I like many others love my Apple TV though its taken me a good while to get down to exploring the capabilities of the device. I intend to write about 2 different functions of the Apple TV, thus my ramble will be split into 2 emails. I thought I'd have a look in the "TV" option from the main menu and was pleasantly surprised to discover that many of the TV networks are listed, these networks such as National Geographic, BBC and so on offer many of their shows for purchase. BBC seem to have one of the widest ranges available so I purchased a few shows from them including the very widely acclaimed "Walking With Diner-sores" which was released in 1999. Apple TV gives you a choice of purchasing individual episodes or full seasons, Apple refer to the purchase of a season as a "Seasons Pass". So having purchased "Walking With Diner-Sores" I was then able to start watching any of the 12 episodes in the season I purchased at once thanks to iCloud. After some fiddling on the iMac I was able to download all the seasons I'd purchased onto the computer, this means I can keep what I've purchased and watch it at any time on my iMac, Apple TV etc, to watch from the Apple TV you need to set up "Home Sharing" so the Apple TV can stream from your Mac, Windows PC and so on. The world "Amazing!" comes to mind when attempting to describe all this but I hear that those of influience when it comes to the English language suggest that "Amazing!" is a word to often used in the English language today, they want it band thus I'll have to think a similar adjective for for any other "Amazing!" products I find but I'm sure you get my drift all the same . From d.trethowan at me.com Sun Feb 12 13:21:23 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:21:23 +1100 Subject: Squeezebox Media Players with Mac and iPhone/iPad Message-ID: <7966146C-631A-47E7-A28C-39490D4FA05C@me.com> Subject line says it all really. I've recorded a Podcast on the subject of the Logitech Squeezebox players, I show how they can be used with apps for iPhone/iPad, I also use Safari with the Mac to control the player, if you'd like to hear the demo then download from If you have any trouble downloading the file then send me a private email and I'll try to help you out. From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Feb 12 15:05:21 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:05:21 -0500 Subject: Reminders App podcast and tutorial Message-ID: <58D8765E-040D-4CD3-8417-FE87FB0B6473@Mac-Access.net> Hello fellow listers, Recently I decided I wanted to use the Reminders Application and decided to learn how to use it. I've created a podcast that shares what I've learned about the Reminders App, and how to use it with Voice Over. I don't know where to post this podcast so for now it is in my dropbox and the link is below. I tried very hard to make this a enjoyable but useful podcast. Hopefully it is helpful and has very little chatter. I tested this link and it worked for me. If anyone has additional tips on using the app please share them as I did not cover some of the advanced features such as searching and using the dates area. Also, for me this link starts playing and I'm not sure how to advise people if they just want to down load it for future use. If someone knows how to do that please let us know. Eric Caron http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/Reminders%20With%20Voice%20Over%20And%20ios5.mp3 From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Feb 12 15:26:55 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:26:55 -0500 Subject: List Recorder suggestions welcome In-Reply-To: <5527A86B-9126-4502-9DBF-D9E71B8C2A4F@gmail.com> References: <501E58F2-711C-4A0B-BEA0-6282555FD549@Mac-Access.net> <8B8FF423-4BD8-4634-8439-BA01AE61F96F@gmail.com> <5D194DEF-A74A-46D1-B5FA-E87D559046EB@Mac-Access.net> <5527A86B-9126-4502-9DBF-D9E71B8C2A4F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7310CF2A-1400-49C6-8420-563BC06541AD@Mac-Access.net> Hi Daniela, What a nice thought and suggestion. You are absolutely correct. My thought is though that because the tilt gestures are unfamiliar to most new users it is probably better to not have them on as the default but rather turned on in settings. Some people have told me they gave up on the App because they could not figure out why the app kept backing up and going to the edit area, in what they thought was a random way. You are correct that this functionality could be helpful to some users. I wish I had thought of that! Eric Caron On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:27 AM, Daniela Rubio wrote: > Hi! > Regarding the motions of the devise, I can tell you by experience, that this, when turned on voluntarily, could be of great help for people, like my friend Nancy, who can not use correctly the touch screen. She uses asistive touch and I don't think that she or other users would be happy if the upgrade takes this out. > I think that sometimes developers make innovations which they think are just going to be fun, but they end up being of great use for people with different characteristics. > Thank you for reading. > > SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. > MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. > EN TWITTER: @macneticos > NUESTRO BLOG EN: > www.macneticus.blogspot.com > Y EL PODCAST EN:` > http://macneticos.libsyn.com > > > > El 02/02/2012, a las 03:14, Eric Caron escribi?: > >> Hi marcy, >> >> Remember I'm responding to these messages as a List Recorder user. I have opinions that are different from other users and the developer. >> >> Personally, I agree with Marcy. I find the gestures can activate things unexpectedly and I would rather just use the touch screen. The default setting on List Recorder is to have all the phone movements turned on. This means as you tilt the phone in different ways things happen. Luckily, in settings you can turn off all these motions or just those you don't want. >> >> I've turned them all off! >> >> To do this in List Recorder go to settings and keep swiping until you hear no motion mode. then one more swipe and you have the option to turn this off or on. To stop the motions turn the switch on. >> >> I'd really like to know if people like the motions or if people don't like them or turn them off. >> >> When I first got List Recorder it was the original version. I saw a lot of potential and contacted the developer. I've been trying to improve the App ever since. Frankly, I don't use the motions at all and found them slow and intrusive. Sadly, I think the developer put a lot of work into them and liked the idea of giving people a fun and unique way to move around the App. >> >> So, other users, do you use the motions or turn them off. Do they improve your experience or would you not miss them if they were gone? >> >> Eric Caron >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >> >>> When in the app, it is sometimes difficult to use because with the slightest move of the phone, it ends up in edit mode, or list commands, or even wipe out. This makes it difficult to listen to the list, or add text or a recording. >>> >>> I think the app is great, and if there could be a way for this not to happen so easily, that would make the app even better, and certainly easier to use. >>> >>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Daniela Rubio wrote: >>> >>> List recorder is a great App. When we are able to append more to an existing file and the screen lock bug is fixed, I will use it much more! >>> And, by the way, have you thought in translating in to other languages? You could have much more users who speak spanish. If you are interested, just get back to me. >>> Cheers! >>> >>> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. >>> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. >>> EN TWITTER: @macneticos >>> NUESTRO BLOG EN: >>> www.macneticus.blogspot.com >>> Y EL PODCAST EN:` >>> http://macneticos.libsyn.com >>> >>> >>> >>> El 01/02/2012, a las 04:45, Sarah Alawami escribi?: >>> >>>> the shake when i n a call aint going to happen. The reason? apple does not let you record or play anything in a call. but I do like the rest of your suggestions. >>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Eric, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for taking the time to do this. I was hoping to switch from ClearRecord to List Recorder for recording my class lectures this semester, but the lock screen issue bit me in my first class, causing me to unknowingly not record the entire class, so I haven't touched List Recorder since then. >>>>> >>>>> I like the current feature set and the suggestions you mentioned, but for me the app is currently not an option because of the lock screen bug. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Bryan >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello listers, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am a enthusiastic List Recorder user. I've been gathering personal recommendations for the developer concerning improvements, fixes, and desired new features. I'm wondering if other List Recorder users would be willing to share such thoughts with me. >>>>>> >>>>>> How would you like to see this app improved? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are some of my current favorite desired improvements >>>>>> >>>>>> Modest suggestions: >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like the default list sort method to be manual rather then by creation date. >>>>>> I would like moved items to be automatically unchecked once they are moved >>>>>> I would like to be placed on the first item of a list when I move to a list >>>>>> Within in a single list I would like to be able to drag and drop items for quick reorganization >>>>>> I would like a option for a different sound for signaling the start of a recording. A clear click or pop would be just fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> Big suggestions: >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to take written notes while I'm recording and later be able to review my written notes and if desired have the recording play back where I was when I made the note. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like the option for a very fast quick record even when List recorder is in the background. For example I could be on a call and shake the phone and make a recording and have it be waiting in list recorder when I go back to the app. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like the option to use the due date area to have my list recorder item become a calendar event >>>>>> >>>>>> Or, perhaps List Recorder items that come due could show up in notifications. >>>>>> I would like to be able to back up all my items onto the computer easily and also restore them back to the phone. I realize part of this is all ready available, as we can back up to a computer. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to be able to import a recording to make part of a list. >>>>>> For that matter it might be good to be able to import text as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> fixes: >>>>>> >>>>>> List recorder should return to the behavior broken in iOS5 where recording continues after the phone locks. Currently it stops recording. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for any suggestions big or small. >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently I use many devices to meet my work needs, Victor Reader, Olympus recorder, Milestone 312, and if I could only have one device I'd pick my iPhone with List Recorder. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have done a few rustic podcasts on using List Recorder version 2.2. I'm no professional. However, I'm told they will be eventually made available at sixth mode.com >>>>>> >>>>>> The developer truly listens to and acts on suggestions. please share yours with me. I'd love to keep this app discussion on list but if people would rather contact me off list that is fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> eric Caron >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Marcy >>> marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Feb 12 15:58:36 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:58:36 -0500 Subject: Need help with Amadeus Pro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EE2B2B4-B6F7-4C10-AF9C-ACA8E1165F81@Mac-Access.net> Hello Paul, If you have the time you might find the podcast I did on Amadeus Pro helpful. It is a bit outdated but I think I covered some of your questions there. Once you do that let me know if you have more questions and I'll try to help. I did the podcast to try to help fairly new blind users of Amadeus Pro. You can find the podcast at blindcooltec.com. search for Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD. Hope this helps. eric Caron On Feb 11, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello Amadeus Pro Users, > I would appreciate a few tips on using Amadeus Pro with VoiceOver. I can replay the music I have recorded and can position named markers at desirable points. I have discovered the markers and selection windows but cannot fathom out how to effectively use these. If I look at the markers window I can see the named markers I have added along with quite a few other markers which are mistakes and which I would like to remove. How does one remove a named marker? > > Having got rid of the rubbish markers I would like to delete the music between a couple of my named markers. I can do that with some difficulty by noting the time position of the markers of interest from the markers window and then using that to edit the start and end times of the selection in the selection window. However that is tedious and error prone. I hope there is an easier way. > > Then I would like to start playing the music from one of my named markers first to check that the marker is in the correct place and then to continue playing and editing the music starting at the marker of interest rather than starting at the beginning of the music. > > I would much appreciate any tips. > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Feb 12 17:15:17 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:15:17 +0000 Subject: Need help with Amadeus Pro In-Reply-To: <0EE2B2B4-B6F7-4C10-AF9C-ACA8E1165F81@Mac-Access.net> References: <0EE2B2B4-B6F7-4C10-AF9C-ACA8E1165F81@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <950787DE-26BF-48F0-9BE7-C7FAA3D6B3F6@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Eric, Many thanks for your Email and offer of further help. I did listen to your podcast but that was some time ago. Now that I have a specific job to do with Amadeus Pro I will listen to the podcast again and get back to you if I still have questions. Many thanks.... Paul Hopewell On 12 Feb 2012, at 15:58, Eric Caron wrote: > Hello Paul, > > If you have the time you might find the podcast I did on Amadeus Pro helpful. It is a bit outdated but I think I covered some of your questions there. Once you do that let me know if you have more questions and I'll try to help. I did the podcast to try to help fairly new blind users of Amadeus Pro. > > You can find the podcast at blindcooltec.com. search for Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD. > > Hope this helps. > > eric Caron > > On Feb 11, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello Amadeus Pro Users, >> I would appreciate a few tips on using Amadeus Pro with VoiceOver. I can replay the music I have recorded and can position named markers at desirable points. I have discovered the markers and selection windows but cannot fathom out how to effectively use these. If I look at the markers window I can see the named markers I have added along with quite a few other markers which are mistakes and which I would like to remove. How does one remove a named marker? >> >> Having got rid of the rubbish markers I would like to delete the music between a couple of my named markers. I can do that with some difficulty by noting the time position of the markers of interest from the markers window and then using that to edit the start and end times of the selection in the selection window. However that is tedious and error prone. I hope there is an easier way. >> >> Then I would like to start playing the music from one of my named markers first to check that the marker is in the correct place and then to continue playing and editing the music starting at the marker of interest rather than starting at the beginning of the music. >> >> I would much appreciate any tips. >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tonyo122 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Feb 12 18:36:35 2012 From: tonyo122 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tony Orlebar) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:36:35 +0000 Subject: Mac Office 2012 Message-ID: I can not use voice over with Mac Office 2012 the voice over cursor only moves around the menu bars. But I can not type anything in. From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sun Feb 12 18:49:19 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:49:19 +0100 Subject: Mac Office 2012 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8361F089-F99B-49D9-9069-CFB313305764@anarchie.org.uk> MS Office isn't accessible with VoiceOver. Are you just looking for a word processor or the full office suite? If you need the full suite, then you'll need iWork. Cheers, Anne On 12 Feb 2012, at 19:36, Tony Orlebar wrote: > > I can not use voice over with Mac Office 2012 the voice over cursor only moves around the menu bars. But I can not type anything in. > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sun Feb 12 18:53:10 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:53:10 -0000 Subject: Mac Office 2012 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am afraid Office is not accessible to Voiceover. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Tony Orlebar Sent: 12 February 2012 18:37 To: Mac Access Subject: Mac Office 2012 I can not use voice over with Mac Office 2012 the voice over cursor only moves around the menu bars. But I can not type anything in. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 19:08:40 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:08:40 -0800 Subject: Mac Office 2012 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35CBF64F-D7FF-417A-B2AF-F840CA80AADD@gmail.com> Yep and we've contcted microsoft since 2007 or so pleading to them to put accessibility in and they probably did not read the feedback form they themselves put up on there website. You will need IWork. I don't use it much but it looks ok from what I can tell. On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:53 AM, David Griffith wrote: > I am afraid Office is not accessible to Voiceover. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Tony Orlebar > Sent: 12 February 2012 18:37 > To: Mac Access > Subject: Mac Office 2012 > > > I can not use voice over with Mac Office 2012 the voice over cursor only > moves around the menu bars. But I can not type anything in. > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.trethowan at me.com Sun Feb 12 21:16:01 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:16:01 +1100 Subject: Review/Demo of Squeezebox internet Radio/Media Player with Mac and iPad Message-ID: <7394CBEA-0921-45CA-853A-8C99DF71FA5F@me.com> Hi! Okay, had some private Email here which seems to indicate that people were having trouble downloading the Podcast MP3 file so try this alternative. From d.trethowan at me.com Sun Feb 12 21:20:21 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:20:21 +1100 Subject: Review/Demo of Squeezebox internet Radio/Media Player Message-ID: <2EB979F1-0CD3-499B-AE65-11D915C4524A@me.com> Hi! Okay, had some private Email here which seems to indicate that people were having trouble downloading the Podcast MP3 file so try this alternative. From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 15:10:40 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:10:40 -0600 Subject: Reminders App podcast and tutorial In-Reply-To: <58D8765E-040D-4CD3-8417-FE87FB0B6473@Mac-Access.net> References: <58D8765E-040D-4CD3-8417-FE87FB0B6473@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: On the link just do a control click which acts like v o shift m, in the menu that comes up there is a download linked file, should go grab it without even bring up Safari, it's already grabbed it while I was typing this e-mail and put it in downloads folder. So thats how you can do that for downloading verses listening to it. On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Eric Caron wrote: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/Reminders%20With%20Voice%20Over%20And%20ios5.mp3 From fitzcl at centurylink.net Sun Feb 12 22:29:34 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:29:34 -0800 Subject: Changing Apple ID on IPhone Message-ID: <002201cce9d5$cc709d60$6551d820$@net> I've changed my Apple ID, but on my IPhone I can't get it to change. What am I supposed to do? Catherine Golding Olympia, Washington From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 11:46:12 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:46:12 -0600 Subject: download files In-Reply-To: <855758C7-6A9C-49D1-8563-5B2EAE0273EA@gmail.com> References: <855758C7-6A9C-49D1-8563-5B2EAE0273EA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3A3EE16D-7997-4E0D-B69C-3679A3B868DE@gmail.com> Depends on the site, don't forget the option return combo, that does still work for downloading. On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:06 AM, william lomas wrote: > hi all in safari when i click a link to a file i want, it opens preview, yet when i trya nd right click to download linked file rather than open directly on the site, it just says the path to the file, not the PDF itself to download is this please normal? > Running latest safari and Lion > Will > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 12 22:33:30 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:33:30 -0800 Subject: Changing Apple ID on IPhone In-Reply-To: <002201cce9d5$cc709d60$6551d820$@net> References: <002201cce9d5$cc709d60$6551d820$@net> Message-ID: <3631305E-AD96-4219-9064-06457AE8CED5@gmail.com> Iv'e never done this but try signign out and then back in wiht the appropiate id and pass. On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Catherine G wrote: > I've changed my Apple ID, but on my IPhone I can't get it to change. What > am I supposed to do? > > > > Catherine Golding > > Olympia, Washington > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From fitzcl at centurylink.net Sun Feb 12 23:30:06 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:30:06 -0800 Subject: Changing my password on IPhone Message-ID: <000001cce9de$41824650$c486d2f0$@net> Where do I sign out? I can't find it anywhere. Catherine Golding Olympia, Washington From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 12 23:41:23 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:41:23 -1000 Subject: Changing my password on IPhone In-Reply-To: <000001cce9de$41824650$c486d2f0$@net> References: <000001cce9de$41824650$c486d2f0$@net> Message-ID: <0E1F43AD-B701-4836-B570-C10C95D80A75@mac.com> Hi Catherine, I think you find the Apple ID under Settings > Store. When I go there, my Apple ID shows up at the bottom of the screen. If I double tap it, I have the options to "View Apple ID", "Sign Out", or "Cancel". Double tapping "View Apple ID" prompts me for my login password, and lets me edit my account settings, such as payment information. Before you make any permanent changes, where did you go to change your Apple ID, and what is the reason you are changing it? That my help to make more constructive suggestions about how to proceed. Cheers, Esther On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Catherine G wrote: > Where do I sign out? I can't find it anywhere. > > > > Catherine Golding > > Olympia, Washington From fitzcl at centurylink.net Sun Feb 12 23:47:05 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:47:05 -0800 Subject: Changing my password on IPhone In-Reply-To: <0E1F43AD-B701-4836-B570-C10C95D80A75@mac.com> References: <000001cce9de$41824650$c486d2f0$@net> <0E1F43AD-B701-4836-B570-C10C95D80A75@mac.com> Message-ID: <000501cce9e0$a13234f0$e3969ed0$@net> I need to change it because the ISP I used as my ID is no longer valid, so in order to validate a real account, I changed it. I'll try what you suggest and see what happens. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:41 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Changing my password on IPhone Hi Catherine, I think you find the Apple ID under Settings > Store. When I go there, my Apple ID shows up at the bottom of the screen. If I double tap it, I have the options to "View Apple ID", "Sign Out", or "Cancel". Double tapping "View Apple ID" prompts me for my login password, and lets me edit my account settings, such as payment information. Before you make any permanent changes, where did you go to change your Apple ID, and what is the reason you are changing it? That my help to make more constructive suggestions about how to proceed. Cheers, Esther On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Catherine G wrote: > Where do I sign out? I can't find it anywhere. > > > > Catherine Golding > > Olympia, Washington <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 12 23:49:28 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:49:28 -1000 Subject: Changing my password on IPhone In-Reply-To: <000501cce9e0$a13234f0$e3969ed0$@net> References: <000001cce9de$41824650$c486d2f0$@net> <0E1F43AD-B701-4836-B570-C10C95D80A75@mac.com> <000501cce9e0$a13234f0$e3969ed0$@net> Message-ID: Hi Catherine, Your Apple ID is not the same as your email address. That's why I asked. You can continue to use it, I think, even if that no longer works as an email address. Changing it gets pretty messy. Esther On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Catherine G wrote: > I need to change it because the ISP I used as my ID is no longer valid, so > in order to validate a real account, I changed it. I'll try what you > suggest and see what happens. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:41 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Changing my password on IPhone > > Hi Catherine, > > I think you find the Apple ID under Settings > Store. When I go there, my > Apple ID shows up at the bottom of the screen. If I double tap it, I have > the options to "View Apple ID", "Sign Out", or "Cancel". Double tapping > "View Apple ID" prompts me for my login password, and lets me edit my > account settings, such as payment information. > > Before you make any permanent changes, where did you go to change your > Apple ID, and what is the reason you are changing it? That my help to make > more constructive suggestions about how to proceed. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Catherine G wrote: > >> Where do I sign out? I can't find it anywhere. >> >> >> >> Catherine Golding >> >> Olympia, Washington > From d.trethowan at me.com Mon Feb 13 01:09:11 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:09:11 +1100 Subject: Getting the latest generation of iPod Touch next week Message-ID: <76569121-C180-40E7-A2AB-33D9357A8A48@me.com> Hi! Going to buy an iPod touch next week so am wondering, what the quality of the internal speaker is like? I don't intend using this much but may have to use it in the course of using the device with Voiceover . Shame, I read in my local Mac computer column some time ago that Apple plans to gradually faze out the iPod over time and this makes a certain amount of sense given that most customers prefer their music on an iPhone these days according to Apple so I'm going to get a "Touch" whilst the going's good . I take it that using the "Touch" is pretty much like using an iPhone 4 without the phone? From d.trethowan at me.com Mon Feb 13 02:12:00 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:12:00 +1100 Subject: Reminders on iPhone/iPad, how to mark them Message-ID: <363FBA2F-2BF9-420A-A657-BEC0DDA270D7@me.com> Hi! In the "Reminders" app how do you mark a reminder as completed? From mumwith2kids at gmail.com Mon Feb 13 02:38:21 2012 From: mumwith2kids at gmail.com (Stephanie Mitchell) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:38:21 +1000 Subject: accounting software Message-ID: <4f3877a9.e49a320a.5275.319a@mx.google.com> I need some mac software, or something that you sync from my ipad to the mac. I am looking for a way that keep track of my incoming and outgoing expensives. Steph From lauriemehta at yahoo.com Mon Feb 13 03:01:39 2012 From: lauriemehta at yahoo.com (Laurie Mehta) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:01:39 -0500 Subject: question about adding recipients in messages In-Reply-To: References: <58D8765E-040D-4CD3-8417-FE87FB0B6473@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <9231BFA2-D809-4597-8EF9-C4CBD0C49E7B@yahoo.com> In Apple Mail (on a MacBook) how do you add recipients (more than one) in the to or cc field? When I try to do this, the first address autofills correctly, but when I try to add additional addresses this deletes what was entered already. I have tried using a semicolon or a comma to separate addresses as I would in a Windows-based program, but this did not work for me in Apple Mail. I ended up typing each address out including greater than and less than signs to offset them and separating them with semicolons. This is obviously not a desirable method. :-) I want to be able to take advantage of autofill from my contacts. Thanks for any advice on how to add several recipients into either the to or the cc fields for mail I'm sending! - Laurie (who is very new to Mac) From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Mon Feb 13 03:20:09 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:20:09 -0600 Subject: question about adding recipients in messages In-Reply-To: <9231BFA2-D809-4597-8EF9-C4CBD0C49E7B@yahoo.com> References: <58D8765E-040D-4CD3-8417-FE87FB0B6473@Mac-Access.net> <9231BFA2-D809-4597-8EF9-C4CBD0C49E7B@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2D948B5E-1A21-4901-B4C6-53FCC16B4C5D@gmail.com> Did you end the first one with a comma? WHile it talks in the auto fill, just type comma and then start typing the next. If that doesn't work then you have to find the last letter of the filled address, highlight it and then re type it and comma, but typing the comma itself should do it. On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Laurie Mehta wrote: > In Apple Mail (on a MacBook) how do you add recipients (more than one) in the to or cc field? > > When I try to do this, the first address autofills correctly, but when I try to add additional addresses this deletes what was entered already. > I have tried using a semicolon or a comma to separate addresses as I would in a Windows-based program, but this did not work for me in Apple Mail. > > I ended up typing each address out including greater than and less than signs to offset them and separating them with semicolons. This is obviously not a desirable method. :-) > I want to be able to take advantage of autofill from my contacts. > > Thanks for any advice on how to add several recipients into either the to or the cc fields for mail I'm sending! > > - Laurie (who is very new to Mac) > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Mon Feb 13 03:52:45 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:52:45 -0500 Subject: Reminders on iPhone/iPad, how to mark them In-Reply-To: <363FBA2F-2BF9-420A-A657-BEC0DDA270D7@me.com> References: <363FBA2F-2BF9-420A-A657-BEC0DDA270D7@me.com> Message-ID: <0DE6EC18-EC89-4BE1-8B21-5CBE9666C153@Mac-Access.net> Hi Dane, I recently posted a podcast that covered this and the other aspects of the Reminders. app. Below is my post and the link to the podcast. The short answer is listen to the reminder you have created. It is listed twice. one of them will say unchecked double tap to check it and it is marked as complete. this causes other actions as well but that is in the podcast. Eric Caron old post follows: Hi Eric, thank you for getting back to me so promptly. The number to call is 616-883-2999 followed by pound. Afterwards, press 1 for live rooms and the room number is 2428. I host the conference every Wednesday night from 7:00 PM Eastern and on Saturdays at 6:00 PM Eastern. You are free to come in when you can. Again, thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Caron" To: "beverly" Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Reminders App podcast tutorial Hi Beverly, I might be able to attend. I work during the week and generally have busy weekends, but it is winter and things are a little slower. Give me more info and if I can participate I will. ERic Caron On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:01 PM, beverly wrote: > Eric, I listened to your podcast, and thanks a bunch for making it! I host an iPhone discussion conference call every Wednesday and Saturday and I would like to invite you to attend. If you have other apps that you would be willing to demonstrate, that would be fantastic. Please let me know if you would be interested, then I will give you the details. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Caron" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:02 AM > Subject: Reminders App podcast tutorial > > > Hello fellow listers, > > Recently I decided I wanted to use the Reminders Application and decided to learn how to use it. Soon after that I noticed some messages from listers with questions about the App. I've created a podcast that shares what I've learned about the Reminders App, and how to use it with Voice Over. I don't know where to post this podcast so for now it is in my dropbox and the link is below. > > I tried very hard to make this a enjoyable but useful podcast. Hopefully it is helpful and has very little chatter. > > I tested this link and it worked for me. If anyone has additional tips on using the app please share them as I did not cover some of the advanced features such as searching and using the dates area. > > Also, for me this link starts playing and I'm not sure how to advise people if they just want to down load it for future use. If someone knows how to do that please let us know. > > Eric Caron > On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > In the "Reminders" app how do you mark a reminder as completed? > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Mon Feb 13 06:17:00 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:17:00 -0500 Subject: Changing my password on IPhone References: <000001cce9de$41824650$c486d2f0$@net><0E1F43AD-B701-4836-B570-C10C95D80A75@mac.com><000501cce9e0$a13234f0$e3969ed0$@net> Message-ID: <09D0A216068F450FA332B7BF60E3352C@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Catherine, Esther and others. Though it can be messy, some times it works out better in the long run. It was out of mom's control last Summer, when her ISP literally went away over night. She ordered her 4S by phone, and the sales rep created a new Apple ID because eMail communication was the only way that she could agree to the carrier's contract terms. So I was tasked with merging the two ids while retaining access to the apps purchased under the old ID. What I learned is that Sarah's suggestion should (but does not always) work. If the change can not be completed via signing out/in under the Store menu in iTunes, it may be necessary to deactivate the old id at the itunes site. If you have Apple care, they can talk you through it over the phone; I don't recall the exact procedure, and I suspect that Apple is making this info difficult to find in Google. What I recall was signing in with mom's old Apple ID and then appending text such as a period (.) and a word such as delete, disable, or remove. So the prompt would be something like Me at MyISP.com.delete and after entering the password and confirming, its gone. The whole process does not take much time and will retain your DRM info from the old ID, but Iit may be best to call Apple and make sure you do it right. The other nice thing is that you'll once again get receipts when making purchases, and receive confirmation of genius bar appointments, etc. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Esther To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 6:49 PM Subject: Re: Changing my password on IPhone Hi Catherine, Your Apple ID is not the same as your email address. That's why I asked. You can continue to use it, I think, even if that no longer works as an email address. Changing it gets pretty messy. Esther On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Catherine G wrote: > I need to change it because the ISP I used as my ID is no longer valid, so > in order to validate a real account, I changed it. I'll try what you > suggest and see what happens. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:41 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Changing my password on IPhone > > Hi Catherine, > > I think you find the Apple ID under Settings > Store. When I go there, my > Apple ID shows up at the bottom of the screen. If I double tap it, I have > the options to "View Apple ID", "Sign Out", or "Cancel". Double tapping > "View Apple ID" prompts me for my login password, and lets me edit my > account settings, such as payment information. > > Before you make any permanent changes, where did you go to change your > Apple ID, and what is the reason you are changing it? That my help to make > more constructive suggestions about how to proceed. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Catherine G wrote: > >> Where do I sign out? I can't find it anywhere. >> >> >> >> Catherine Golding >> >> Olympia, Washington > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 13 06:22:29 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:22:29 -0800 Subject: Emptying the trash automatically | Macworld Message-ID: <3075110C-F088-4FB2-991B-B108FD03B494@gmail.com> a very good tip, but use with care!!! http://www.macworld.com/article/165305/2012/02/emptying_the_trash_automatically.html#lsrc.rss_howto From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 13 06:35:43 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:35:43 -0800 Subject: Changing my password on IPhone In-Reply-To: <09D0A216068F450FA332B7BF60E3352C@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <000001cce9de$41824650$c486d2f0$@net><0E1F43AD-B701-4836-B570-C10C95D80A75@mac.com><000501cce9e0$a13234f0$e3969ed0$@net> <09D0A216068F450FA332B7BF60E3352C@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <62BFA7B4-1A75-4BBD-A88D-ED3C70012CEE@gmail.com> Yeah interesting. I hope I myself don't have to do that. that would just make my day lol! thanks for the info. and take care. On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Catherine, Esther and others. > > Though it can be messy, some times it works out better in the long run. It was out of mom's control last Summer, when her ISP literally went away over night. She ordered her 4S by phone, and the sales rep created a new Apple ID because eMail communication was the only way that she could agree to the carrier's contract terms. So I was tasked with merging the two ids while retaining access to the apps purchased under the old ID. > > What I learned is that Sarah's suggestion should (but does not always) work. If the change can not be completed via signing out/in under the Store menu in iTunes, it may be necessary to deactivate the old id at the itunes site. If you have Apple care, they can talk you through it over the phone; I don't recall the exact procedure, and I suspect that Apple is making this info difficult to find in Google. What I recall was signing in with mom's old Apple ID and then appending text such as a period (.) and a word such as delete, disable, or remove. So the prompt would be something like Me at MyISP.com.delete and after entering the password and confirming, its gone. > > The whole process does not take much time and will retain your DRM info from the old ID, but Iit may be best to call Apple and make sure you do it right. The other nice thing is that you'll once again get receipts when making purchases, and receive confirmation of genius bar appointments, etc. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Esther > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 6:49 PM > Subject: Re: Changing my password on IPhone > > > Hi Catherine, > > Your Apple ID is not the same as your email address. That's why I asked. You can continue to use it, I think, even if that no longer works as an email address. Changing it gets pretty messy. > > Esther > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Catherine G wrote: > >> I need to change it because the ISP I used as my ID is no longer valid, so >> in order to validate a real account, I changed it. I'll try what you >> suggest and see what happens. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther >> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:41 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Changing my password on IPhone >> >> Hi Catherine, >> >> I think you find the Apple ID under Settings > Store. When I go there, my >> Apple ID shows up at the bottom of the screen. If I double tap it, I have >> the options to "View Apple ID", "Sign Out", or "Cancel". Double tapping >> "View Apple ID" prompts me for my login password, and lets me edit my >> account settings, such as payment information. >> >> Before you make any permanent changes, where did you go to change your >> Apple ID, and what is the reason you are changing it? That my help to make >> more constructive suggestions about how to proceed. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Catherine G wrote: >> >>> Where do I sign out? I can't find it anywhere. >>> >>> >>> >>> Catherine Golding >>> >>> Olympia, Washington >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.trethowan at me.com Mon Feb 13 10:05:14 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:05:14 +1100 Subject: Pandora Clients for Mac Message-ID: <3052FD19-8005-4F03-8CCE-31837659B89E@me.com> Hi! The new version of Airfoil has integration with a number of Pandora clients for the Mac Just wondering if anyone has tried the clients listed at the above link, are any accessible? From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Mon Feb 13 11:32:28 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:32:28 -0500 Subject: Reminders on iPhone/iPad, how to mark them In-Reply-To: <0DE6EC18-EC89-4BE1-8B21-5CBE9666C153@Mac-Access.net> References: <363FBA2F-2BF9-420A-A657-BEC0DDA270D7@me.com> <0DE6EC18-EC89-4BE1-8B21-5CBE9666C153@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <37D29F79-61F3-46C3-9C53-0B3889E3CD64@Mac-Access.net> Hello Dane and other Listers, In response to Dane's question on Reminders I pasted in the wrong post. Here is the correct post from earlier this week and the link to the Reminder's podcast. Eric Caron Recently I decided I wanted to use the Reminders Application and decided to learn how to use it. I've created a podcast that shares what I've learned about the Reminders App, and how to use it with Voice Over. I don't know where to post this podcast so for now it is in my dropbox and the link is below. I tried very hard to make this a enjoyable but useful podcast. Hopefully it is helpful and has very little chatter. I tested this link and it worked for me. If anyone has additional tips on using the app please share them as I did not cover some of the advanced features such as searching and using the dates area. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/Reminders%20With%20Voice%20Over%20And%20ios5.mp3 On >> Subject: Reminders App podcast tutorial >> >> >> Hello fellow listers, >> >> Recently I decided I wanted to use the Reminders Application and decided to learn how to use it. Soon after that I noticed some messages from listers with questions about the App. I've created a podcast that shares what I've learned about the Reminders App, and how to use it with Voice Over. I don't know where to post this podcast so for now it is in my dropbox and the link is below. >> >> I tried very hard to make this a enjoyable but useful podcast. Hopefully it is helpful and has very little chatter. >> >> I tested this link and it worked for me. If anyone has additional tips on using the app please share them as I did not cover some of the advanced features such as searching and using the dates area. >> >> Also, for me this link starts playing and I'm not sure how to advise people if they just want to down load it for future use. If someone knows how to do that please let us know. >> >> Eric Caron >> > > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> In the "Reminders" app how do you mark a reminder as completed? >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Feb 13 12:45:58 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:45:58 +0000 Subject: Getting the latest generation of iPod Touch next week In-Reply-To: <76569121-C180-40E7-A2AB-33D9357A8A48@me.com> References: <76569121-C180-40E7-A2AB-33D9357A8A48@me.com> Message-ID: <4F390606.1000603@techno-chat.net> Correct. I don't like the internal speaker that much compared to the iPhone, which I believe has two, pretty darn good internal speakers. I still however like a bit of extra bass. This is down to my poor hearing, so choose to listen to music through my speaker dock. On 13/02/2012 01:09, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Going to buy an iPod touch next week so am wondering, what the quality of the internal speaker is like? > > I don't intend using this much but may have to use it in the course of using the device with Voiceover. > > Shame, I read in my local Mac computer column some time ago that Apple plans to gradually faze out the iPod over time and this makes a certain amount of sense given that most customers prefer their music on an iPhone these days according to Apple so I'm going to get a "Touch" whilst the going's good. > > I take it that using the "Touch" is pretty much like using an iPhone 4 without the phone? > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Feb 13 15:17:53 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:17:53 +0000 Subject: Need help with Amadeus Pro In-Reply-To: <0EE2B2B4-B6F7-4C10-AF9C-ACA8E1165F81@Mac-Access.net> References: <0EE2B2B4-B6F7-4C10-AF9C-ACA8E1165F81@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <4D091D37-0626-4D83-9FB0-CD570942B6EE@hopewell.org.uk> Hello Eric, I have just finished listening to your excellent podcast on Amadeus Pro. that has given me some pointers but I would still appreciate your advice on the best way to do the following... I have recorded myself playing the piano and now want to remove errors from the recording. There are two types of error a) long pauses while I find the correct notes and b) short sections of playing the wrong notes followed by a replay of that section with the correct notes. To remove a section containing wrong notes I would like to be able to do something like the following: - Play the recording and use the p key to insert a marker immediately I hear an incorrect note and then insert another marker when I hear the correct note. I would then select the music between the above pair of markers. - A way to adjust the above selection so that it starts a little before the incorrect note and finishes a little before the correct note. Are there any shortcut keys which will extend the left hand side of a selection a little bit to the left and another shortcut to extend the right hand end of a selection a little bit to the left. Presumably these shortcuts would also move the corresponding markers. Without something like this it is very difficult to place a marker just before an incorrect note rather than on that incorrect note or just after that incorrect note. - A way to play the notes for several seconds before the above selection and for several seconds after the above selection so that I can determine if the selection is in the correct place before I delete it. From your podcast it seems that setting the preview period in Amadeus Pro preferences to say 10 seconds and then pressing the e key will achieve this. Is that correct? If I delete a selection between two markers are the markers also deleted or are they still present both now marking the same place i.e. just before the deleted section. I hope you can see what I am trying to achieve and many thanks for any tips on the best way to do this using VoiceOver. Best regards.... Paul Hopewell On 12 Feb 2012, at 15:58, Eric Caron wrote: > Hello Paul, > > If you have the time you might find the podcast I did on Amadeus Pro helpful. It is a bit outdated but I think I covered some of your questions there. Once you do that let me know if you have more questions and I'll try to help. I did the podcast to try to help fairly new blind users of Amadeus Pro. > > You can find the podcast at blindcooltec.com. search for Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD. > > Hope this helps. > > eric Caron > > On Feb 11, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello Amadeus Pro Users, >> I would appreciate a few tips on using Amadeus Pro with VoiceOver. I can replay the music I have recorded and can position named markers at desirable points. I have discovered the markers and selection windows but cannot fathom out how to effectively use these. If I look at the markers window I can see the named markers I have added along with quite a few other markers which are mistakes and which I would like to remove. How does one remove a named marker? >> >> Having got rid of the rubbish markers I would like to delete the music between a couple of my named markers. I can do that with some difficulty by noting the time position of the markers of interest from the markers window and then using that to edit the start and end times of the selection in the selection window. However that is tedious and error prone. I hope there is an easier way. >> >> Then I would like to start playing the music from one of my named markers first to check that the marker is in the correct place and then to continue playing and editing the music starting at the marker of interest rather than starting at the beginning of the music. >> >> I would much appreciate any tips. >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From fitzcl at centurylink.net Mon Feb 13 15:40:20 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:40:20 -0800 Subject: Changing password on IPhone Message-ID: <000f01ccea65$cb8c7c80$62a57580$@net> I was able to change it successfully. Thanks for the help. From fitzcl at centurylink.net Mon Feb 13 15:50:26 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:50:26 -0800 Subject: Reminders on iPhone/iPad, how to mark them In-Reply-To: <37D29F79-61F3-46C3-9C53-0B3889E3CD64@Mac-Access.net> References: <363FBA2F-2BF9-420A-A657-BEC0DDA270D7@me.com> <0DE6EC18-EC89-4BE1-8B21-5CBE9666C153@Mac-Access.net> <37D29F79-61F3-46C3-9C53-0B3889E3CD64@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <001701ccea67$34cea230$9e6be690$@net> Very helpful. Catherine Golding Olympia, Washington -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Caron Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 3:32 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Reminders on iPhone/iPad, how to mark them Hello Dane and other Listers, In response to Dane's question on Reminders I pasted in the wrong post. Here is the correct post from earlier this week and the link to the Reminder's podcast. Eric Caron Recently I decided I wanted to use the Reminders Application and decided to learn how to use it. I've created a podcast that shares what I've learned about the Reminders App, and how to use it with Voice Over. I don't know where to post this podcast so for now it is in my dropbox and the link is below. I tried very hard to make this a enjoyable but useful podcast. Hopefully it is helpful and has very little chatter. I tested this link and it worked for me. If anyone has additional tips on using the app please share them as I did not cover some of the advanced features such as searching and using the dates area. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/Reminders%20With%20Voice%20Over%20And%20ios 5.mp3 On >> Subject: Reminders App podcast tutorial >> >> >> Hello fellow listers, >> >> Recently I decided I wanted to use the Reminders Application and decided to learn how to use it. Soon after that I noticed some messages from listers with questions about the App. I've created a podcast that shares what I've learned about the Reminders App, and how to use it with Voice Over. I don't know where to post this podcast so for now it is in my dropbox and the link is below. >> >> I tried very hard to make this a enjoyable but useful podcast. Hopefully it is helpful and has very little chatter. >> >> I tested this link and it worked for me. If anyone has additional tips on using the app please share them as I did not cover some of the advanced features such as searching and using the dates area. >> >> Also, for me this link starts playing and I'm not sure how to advise people if they just want to down load it for future use. If someone knows how to do that please let us know. >> >> Eric Caron >> > > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> In the "Reminders" app how do you mark a reminder as completed? >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 13 16:05:42 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:05:42 -1000 Subject: a perplexing iTunes issue In-Reply-To: <500A023D-F626-4871-AA1A-0019FF7A0F2E@gmail.com> References: <97D38470633142D2B6EA4D6915DB38D8@acer4d025c48b8> <500A023D-F626-4871-AA1A-0019FF7A0F2E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah, David, and Zack, I'm late to this thread, but I have a few quick comments. If the workflow Sarah uses is the Services menu option, "Add to iTunes as a Spoken Track", it will use the default encoding format for the m4a file. This is 128 kbps variable bit rate at CD quality sampling (44.1 kHz). Changing your iTunes import preferences (Command-comma for the preferences menu) under button for "Import Settings" on the General tab, from "iTunes Plus" to "Spoken Podcast" (32 kbps, 22.05 kHz with voice filtering) will make the resulting file about 4 times smaller. Speeding up the voice speaking rate by sticking an embedded command at the start of the selected text, such as: [[rate 400]] (that's two left brackets followed by the word "rate" followed by a space and the number "400" followed by two right brackets) will make the resulting file even smaller (and shorter). I'm sure that text to speech programs that record don't use iTunes Plus music settings for the program. If anyone bought Assistiveware's GhostReader as an inexpensive add-on with the InfoVox voices, that program also lets you record text to a file, and even has an undocumented feature that lets you switch between the InfoVox iVox (Acapela group) voices on your system mid-text, so you can change voices (and languages) in the middle of your recording. GhostReader is not designed for visually impaired users, but is quite useful. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 10, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Acutally I round the work around maybe. I left the dialogue there for about half an hour and came back and the full 30 page document showed up as an m4a file. If I have to do this every time tha'ts rediculous but Im willing to be patient. > On Feb 10, 2012, at 3:25 PM, David Griffith wrote: > >> I think this may be a limitation. I am also using Lion and when I tried to >> do this with a 30 page text document last week it completely failed. >> As you say small clips are fine but anything substantial and I-tunes does >> not appear able to cope . >> I guess I could split the file up into smaller segments but I am afraid I >> could not be bothered and went instead to use the free speech utility in >> fusion under Windows. >> >> Regards >> >> David Griffith >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >> Sent: 10 February 2012 21:48 >> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility >> Subject: a perplexing iTunes issue >> >> Hello to all. >> >> I want to convert a 30 or 40 page rtf document to speach using the >> workflow. that ships with lion. I'm running os 10.7.3 and I noticed that >> it will convert a 30 second clip fine but it stops 8 or sometimes even 20 >> seconds in to the selected 30 page document. I made sure all text was >> selected. What do I need to do to fix this? I need to get this done way >> before monday. >> >> Thanks all. From christoap at sky.com Mon Feb 13 20:40:50 2012 From: christoap at sky.com (Christo Thiardt) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:40:50 +0000 Subject: Olearia Daisy Reader Message-ID: <61DD02ED-CD03-4AAC-A0F7-90CC431A0163@sky.com> Hello I have been successful in downloading the above. I can skip forward and back within the text however, the fast forward/backward do not seem to work. Can anyone help with details of utilising this program to its fullest capability? Many thanks in advance Christo From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Mon Feb 13 23:04:39 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:04:39 -0500 Subject: Need help with Amadeus Pro In-Reply-To: <4D091D37-0626-4D83-9FB0-CD570942B6EE@hopewell.org.uk> References: <0EE2B2B4-B6F7-4C10-AF9C-ACA8E1165F81@Mac-Access.net> <4D091D37-0626-4D83-9FB0-CD570942B6EE@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <9665ACA1-D8CF-43EC-90FA-73B28CD8313E@Mac-Access.net> Hi Paul, I was sent some podcasts on Amadeus Pro created by another user. I don't think they were ever posted. I've written to him to see if I can share them. They cover ways of doing some of the things you ask below. I don't use these commands much as I rely on landing the marker just where I need it. But yes you can adjust the left and the right side of the selected area with letters. Again I'm no expert but I think others on this list use these commands often. For example I read that using the letters a, s, and d, move the left marker in a selection I believe letter a moves it to the left for example . I will offer you and the other listers the podcasts that demonstrate this once I get permission. Then, once you master these skills it is your turn to do a Amadeus Pro tutorial! ERic Caron On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello Eric, > I have just finished listening to your excellent podcast on Amadeus Pro. that has given me some pointers but I would still appreciate your advice on the best way to do the following... > > I have recorded myself playing the piano and now want to remove errors from the recording. There are two types of error a) long pauses while I find the correct notes and b) short sections of playing the wrong notes followed by a replay of that section with the correct notes. > > To remove a section containing wrong notes I would like to be able to do something like the following: > > - Play the recording and use the p key to insert a marker immediately I hear an incorrect note and then insert another marker when I hear the correct note. I would then select the music between the above pair of markers. > > - A way to adjust the above selection so that it starts a little before the incorrect note and finishes a little before the correct note. Are there any shortcut keys which will extend the left hand side of a selection a little bit to the left and another shortcut to extend the right hand end of a selection a little bit to the left. Presumably these shortcuts would also move the corresponding markers. Without something like this it is very difficult to place a marker just before an incorrect note rather than on that incorrect note or just after that incorrect note. > > - A way to play the notes for several seconds before the above selection and for several seconds after the above selection so that I can determine if the selection is in the correct place before I delete it. From your podcast it seems that setting the preview period in Amadeus Pro preferences to say 10 seconds and then pressing the e key will achieve this. Is that correct? > > If I delete a selection between two markers are the markers also deleted or are they still present both now marking the same place i.e. just before the deleted section. > > I hope you can see what I am trying to achieve and many thanks for any tips on the best way to do this using VoiceOver. > Best regards.... > > Paul Hopewell > On 12 Feb 2012, at 15:58, Eric Caron wrote: > >> Hello Paul, >> >> If you have the time you might find the podcast I did on Amadeus Pro helpful. It is a bit outdated but I think I covered some of your questions there. Once you do that let me know if you have more questions and I'll try to help. I did the podcast to try to help fairly new blind users of Amadeus Pro. >> >> You can find the podcast at blindcooltec.com. search for Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> eric Caron >> >> On Feb 11, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello Amadeus Pro Users, >>> I would appreciate a few tips on using Amadeus Pro with VoiceOver. I can replay the music I have recorded and can position named markers at desirable points. I have discovered the markers and selection windows but cannot fathom out how to effectively use these. If I look at the markers window I can see the named markers I have added along with quite a few other markers which are mistakes and which I would like to remove. How does one remove a named marker? >>> >>> Having got rid of the rubbish markers I would like to delete the music between a couple of my named markers. I can do that with some difficulty by noting the time position of the markers of interest from the markers window and then using that to edit the start and end times of the selection in the selection window. However that is tedious and error prone. I hope there is an easier way. >>> >>> Then I would like to start playing the music from one of my named markers first to check that the marker is in the correct place and then to continue playing and editing the music starting at the marker of interest rather than starting at the beginning of the music. >>> >>> I would much appreciate any tips. >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Tue Feb 14 02:06:54 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:06:54 -0500 Subject: Tips for Playing Amazon Instant Videos on the Mac Message-ID: <81375925-7128-4A76-A403-1DCA18872AE5@me.com> I can't remember if I posted this before, but it's been on my mind to do so for a while. As an Amazon Prime member -- and I think this applies to Amazon Student and Amazon Mom members also -- I have access to a few thousand free movies and TV shows. These are only available as streaming Flash videos on the Mac, and are not available at all on i-Devices AFAIK. I also don't know if these are available outside of the US. On those rare occasions when i feel like playing a movie, I use the following steps to launch and control these instant videos on my Mac. This might not be the best method so please feel free to comment if you have a better mousetrap. 1. Install the "ClickToFlash" Safari extension. You can find and install it by going to the Safari Extensions Gallery from the Safari Menu or by going directly to the following site: https://extensions.apple.com/ and using VO+f to search for "clickto". 2. Go to the main Amazon site and log in. 3. Go to your Prime page. I do this by using the Item Chooser VO+i to locate the link labelled "Amazon Prime." 4. To browse the library of Prime elegible instant videos, I use the Item Chooser to locate the link labelled "Browse Instant VIdeos." 5. On the resulting page I am able to browse videos by navigating through various categories using the standard VO commands and the Web Rotor. I can also use Amazon's standard search bar to search for a title in the "Amazon Instant Video" category. 6. Once I've located a video I want to watch, I can VO+Spacebar on the link labelled "Prime Members" and this will open a page for this video. This page includes a brief description of the video along with viewer ratings and other info. 7. If I want to play this video, I can start it by locating and clicking the button labelled "button-watch-prime." Again, I tend to just use the ItemChooser to quickly find this button. Amazon seems to have chosen to make this button immune to the standard VO+Spacebar press, so you might need to bring the mouse pointer to the VO cursor by pressing VO+Command+F5 and then either clicking the mouse/trackpad button or double-clicking the VO+Shift+Spacebar combination to activate the button and start the movie playing. 8. Depending on your Click2Flash settings, the video might start playing or you might hear nothing. Mine is the latter case as I prefer to launch it myself. I do this by using the mouse/trackpad to move the pointer around the screen until I hear VO announce "Group." This is apparently how VO reports the Flash pane. When I've heard this, I click the mouse/trackpad button and this tells Click2Flash to let the Flash content begin playing. Note that I also have VO set to"Speak text under mouse after delay" with the delay set to 0 seconds. Thiese settings are found in VO Utility / Verbosity / Announcements. 9. With Click2FLash installed it is possible to control these Flash videos to some extent. I'm able to Pause, Play, skip forward, skip backward and adjust the volume as follows:. Pause/Play: Press the spacebar. Skip forward: Press the Right Arrow key. Skip backward: Press the Left Arrow key. Adjust video volume: Press the Up or Down Arrow keys to increase or decrease the volume. Note that the system seems to require that the focus be inside the Flash pane for these key commands to work. I sometimes need to move the mouse pointer back into the Flash pane labelled "Group" and click again to return focus. Cheers, Bryan From d.griffith at btinternet.com Tue Feb 14 05:59:28 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:59:28 +0000 Subject: Olearia Daisy Reader In-Reply-To: <61DD02ED-CD03-4AAC-A0F7-90CC431A0163@sky.com> References: <61DD02ED-CD03-4AAC-A0F7-90CC431A0163@sky.com> Message-ID: Well it seems t work in my version. I use numpad commander so if I navigate to the fast forward button and press numpad 5 it jumps forward. If i hold numpad 5 down on the forward button you get the monkey chatter of the book being read out at rapid speed as you move through it. If you are not using numpad commander then I guess VO space should achieve the same results. David Griffith David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com On 13 Feb 2012, at 20:40, Christo Thiardt wrote: > Hello > > I have been successful in downloading the above. > > I can skip forward and back within the text however, the fast forward/backward do not seem to work. > > Can anyone help with details of utilising this program to its fullest capability? > > Many thanks in advance > > Christo > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 06:28:01 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:28:01 -0800 Subject: a perplexing iTunes issue In-Reply-To: References: <97D38470633142D2B6EA4D6915DB38D8@acer4d025c48b8> <500A023D-F626-4871-AA1A-0019FF7A0F2E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5125F812-D1D2-40CB-B3DE-FA99F1292927@gmail.com> Actually I did [[rate 250]] and selected all 30 pages. It only recorded about in one case 4 minutes of the document. I had to use the say command to get it done. On Feb 13, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, David, and Zack, > > I'm late to this thread, but I have a few quick comments. If the workflow Sarah uses is the Services menu option, "Add to iTunes as a Spoken Track", it will use the default encoding format for the m4a file. This is 128 kbps variable bit rate at CD quality sampling (44.1 kHz). Changing your iTunes import preferences (Command-comma for the preferences menu) under button for "Import Settings" on the General tab, from "iTunes Plus" to "Spoken Podcast" (32 kbps, 22.05 kHz with voice filtering) will make the resulting file about 4 times smaller. Speeding up the voice speaking rate by sticking an embedded command at the start of the selected text, such as: > [[rate 400]] > (that's two left brackets followed by the word "rate" followed by a space and the number "400" followed by two right brackets) will make the resulting file even smaller (and shorter). > > I'm sure that text to speech programs that record don't use iTunes Plus music settings for the program. If anyone bought Assistiveware's GhostReader as an inexpensive add-on with the InfoVox voices, that program also lets you record text to a file, and even has an undocumented feature that lets you switch between the InfoVox iVox (Acapela group) voices on your system mid-text, so you can change voices (and languages) in the middle of your recording. GhostReader is not designed for visually impaired users, but is quite useful. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Feb 10, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Acutally I round the work around maybe. I left the dialogue there for about half an hour and came back and the full 30 page document showed up as an m4a file. If I have to do this every time tha'ts rediculous but Im willing to be patient. >> On Feb 10, 2012, at 3:25 PM, David Griffith wrote: >> >>> I think this may be a limitation. I am also using Lion and when I tried to >>> do this with a 30 page text document last week it completely failed. >>> As you say small clips are fine but anything substantial and I-tunes does >>> not appear able to cope . >>> I guess I could split the file up into smaller segments but I am afraid I >>> could not be bothered and went instead to use the free speech utility in >>> fusion under Windows. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> David Griffith >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>> Sent: 10 February 2012 21:48 >>> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: a perplexing iTunes issue >>> >>> Hello to all. >>> >>> I want to convert a 30 or 40 page rtf document to speach using the >>> workflow. that ships with lion. I'm running os 10.7.3 and I noticed that >>> it will convert a 30 second clip fine but it stops 8 or sometimes even 20 >>> seconds in to the selected 30 page document. I made sure all text was >>> selected. What do I need to do to fix this? I need to get this done way >>> before monday. >>> >>> Thanks all. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Feb 14 18:25:29 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:25:29 +0000 Subject: cookies. Message-ID: <6F4E9CF6-ECB2-47F9-90ED-91FBE29393F0@googlemail.com> Hi all, how do i turn cookies on in safarie. Ian McNamara From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 18:35:19 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:35:19 +0000 Subject: cookies. In-Reply-To: <6F4E9CF6-ECB2-47F9-90ED-91FBE29393F0@googlemail.com> References: <6F4E9CF6-ECB2-47F9-90ED-91FBE29393F0@googlemail.com> Message-ID: go to preferences, privacy and set cooky level there On Feb 14, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi all, how do i turn cookies on in safarie. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Tue Feb 14 18:37:54 2012 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:37:54 +0000 Subject: suggestions for External HD's Message-ID: <28930A6F-2835-4CB8-964A-762255EE476F@virginmedia.com> Hi all! I'm looking at getting a external HD and was wondering which make's people think are good matches with the Mac! I'm new to buying them so have no idea which are good or to avoid! TIA Colin From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 19:07:04 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:07:04 -0800 Subject: an odd problem with mail and saving prefs Message-ID: <3F21E260-5561-424C-B63A-96717FF46DAA@gmail.com> Hello there. I have an odd problem with saving mail prefs. When I do so I get this. Writing your preferences to disk has failed. Your preferences may not have been saved. The permissions on ~/Library/Preferences may be wrong or your disk may be full. I have read write access and my disk is not full at all. Ok I have about 30 gigs free but that should be enough to write the prefs that I need to modify. What can I do in this case? Thanks. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 19:23:44 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:23:44 -0800 Subject: suggestions for External HD's In-Reply-To: <28930A6F-2835-4CB8-964A-762255EE476F@virginmedia.com> References: <28930A6F-2835-4CB8-964A-762255EE476F@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <4A627357-8BA7-48A8-A424-F30D33ED227A@gmail.com> I have a 2 tb elements drive that i love. It's vary very quiet and quick at doing stuff such as back ups and read write operations. On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi all! > I'm looking at getting a external HD and was wondering which make's people think are good matches with the Mac! > I'm new to buying them so have no idea which are good or to avoid! > TIA > Colin > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Tue Feb 14 19:34:34 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:34:34 -1000 Subject: suggestions for External HD's In-Reply-To: <28930A6F-2835-4CB8-964A-762255EE476F@virginmedia.com> References: <28930A6F-2835-4CB8-964A-762255EE476F@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: Hi Colin, You'll probably get other suggestions, but if I'm buying an external HD for storing work data, where I care most about reliability, then I'll buy a G-Technology Drive: http://www.g-technology.com/ I purchased a 3 Terabyte G-Drive (SATA with both USB and FireWire connectors) just before Christmas for just under $300 (about ?190). There are certainly cheaper solutions. And I know that Gordon recommended the Promise Smartstor DS4600 system as a RAID disk system (which is industrial strength -- not something I'd use as a single user who is not working with servers and storage.) Sarah recommended the Western Digital My Passport Essential drive (look for her review from last August). That's a portable drive. I've been a bit leery of the Western Digital portable MyPassport drives since reading a lot of bad reviews in Fall 2010 (I bought one from the Apple Store, found a ton of failure reports around that time, and returned it without using. The salesperson who exchanged it for a G-Drive admitted that he had bought one of the WD MyPassport drives a couple of months earlier and had already had to send it back twice to the manufacturer.) Not sure why there was such a plummet in quality, because the early models reviewed well. I think the larger Western Digital My Book Studio drives are still well regarded. I'd go to a site like Newegg.com, or Tiger Direct, and read the reviews and ratings by customers. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi all! > I'm looking at getting a external HD and was wondering which make's people think are good matches with the Mac! > I'm new to buying them so have no idea which are good or to avoid! > TIA > Colin > > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 19:48:47 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:48:47 -0800 Subject: suggestions for External HD's In-Reply-To: References: <28930A6F-2835-4CB8-964A-762255EE476F@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: Actually I recommended the 2tb usb elements drive not the passport. I don't even like the way that thing looks lol! it looks a bit too much like a book. lol! The elements drive is extremely quiet. I can't even hear it when it turns on except for every once in a while. If I ran a server I'd try and put these things in. but for home use it is quite good and does the job quite well. I've had it for close to a year now with out any issues. Take care all. Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Colin, > > You'll probably get other suggestions, but if I'm buying an external HD for storing work data, where I care most about reliability, then I'll buy a G-Technology Drive: > http://www.g-technology.com/ > > I purchased a 3 Terabyte G-Drive (SATA with both USB and FireWire connectors) just before Christmas for just under $300 (about ?190). There are certainly cheaper solutions. And I know that Gordon recommended the Promise Smartstor DS4600 system as a RAID disk system (which is industrial strength -- not something I'd use as a single user who is not working with servers and storage.) Sarah recommended the Western Digital My Passport Essential drive (look for her review from last August). That's a portable drive. I've been a bit leery of the Western Digital portable MyPassport drives since reading a lot of bad reviews in Fall 2010 (I bought one from the Apple Store, found a ton of failure reports around that time, and returned it without using. The salesperson who exchanged it for a G-Drive admitted that he had bought one of the WD MyPassport drives a couple of months earlier and had already had to send it back twice to the manufacturer.) Not sure why there was such a plummet in quality, because the early models reviewed well. I think the larger Western Digital My Book Studio drives are still well regarded. > > I'd go to a site like Newegg.com, or Tiger Direct, and read the reviews and ratings by customers. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > >> Hi all! >> I'm looking at getting a external HD and was wondering which make's people think are good matches with the Mac! >> I'm new to buying them so have no idea which are good or to avoid! >> TIA >> Colin >> >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From kevin.andrews94 at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 19:52:02 2012 From: kevin.andrews94 at gmail.com (Kevin Andrews) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:52:02 -0500 Subject: suggestions for External HD's In-Reply-To: References: <28930A6F-2835-4CB8-964A-762255EE476F@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <4F3ABB62.7040606@gmail.com> Hi Sarah and the list, I'd recommend the elements drive as well. I got the 2.5 tb model off Amazon. It was decently priced in my opinion. I like how it's so quiet you can barely tell it's running. Hope that helps! On 2/14/2012 2:48 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually I recommended the 2tb usb elements drive not the passport. I don't even like the way that thing looks lol! it looks a bit too much like a book. lol! The elements drive is extremely quiet. I can't even hear it when it turns on except for every once in a while. If I ran a server I'd try and put these things in. but for home use it is quite good and does the job quite well. I've had it for close to a year now with out any issues. > > Take care all. > > Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. > Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening > > On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Colin, >> >> You'll probably get other suggestions, but if I'm buying an external HD for storing work data, where I care most about reliability, then I'll buy a G-Technology Drive: >> http://www.g-technology.com/ >> >> I purchased a 3 Terabyte G-Drive (SATA with both USB and FireWire connectors) just before Christmas for just under $300 (about ?190). There are certainly cheaper solutions. And I know that Gordon recommended the Promise Smartstor DS4600 system as a RAID disk system (which is industrial strength -- not something I'd use as a single user who is not working with servers and storage.) Sarah recommended the Western Digital My Passport Essential drive (look for her review from last August). That's a portable drive. I've been a bit leery of the Western Digital portable MyPassport drives since reading a lot of bad reviews in Fall 2010 (I bought one from the Apple Store, found a ton of failure reports around that time, and returned it without using. The salesperson who exchanged it for a G-Drive admitted that he had bought one of the WD MyPassport drives a couple of months earlier and had already had to send it back twice to the manufacturer.) Not sure why there was such a plummet in quality, because the early models reviewed well. I think the larger Western Digital My Book Studio drives are still well regarded. >> >> I'd go to a site like Newegg.com, or Tiger Direct, and read the reviews and ratings by customers. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> I'm looking at getting a external HD and was wondering which make's people think are good matches with the Mac! >>> I'm new to buying them so have no idea which are good or to avoid! >>> TIA >>> Colin >>> >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Kevin J. Andrews Email: kevin.andrews94 at gmail.com "A man who never made a mistake never tried anything new."-Albert Einstein From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 20:13:01 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:13:01 -0800 Subject: suggestions for External HD's In-Reply-To: <4F3ABB62.7040606@gmail.com> References: <28930A6F-2835-4CB8-964A-762255EE476F@virginmedia.com> <4F3ABB62.7040606@gmail.com> Message-ID: <32FAEFB7-E904-4A64-AA1E-8F24952CBF55@gmail.com> Ah cool. good I'm not the only one who loves this drive. I got mine from b&h photo video for about 80 bucks. andy it's just amazing. and the read write speeds are pretty good for usb2.0. IN fact when my tm drive dies I'm getting an elements what ever the size will be in 2 years lol! Take care all. Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Kevin Andrews wrote: > Hi Sarah and the list, > > I'd recommend the elements drive as well. I got the 2.5 tb model off Amazon. It was decently priced in my opinion. I like how it's so quiet you can barely tell it's running. > > Hope that helps! > > On 2/14/2012 2:48 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> Actually I recommended the 2tb usb elements drive not the passport. I don't even like the way that thing looks lol! it looks a bit too much like a book. lol! The elements drive is extremely quiet. I can't even hear it when it turns on except for every once in a while. If I ran a server I'd try and put these things in. but for home use it is quite good and does the job quite well. I've had it for close to a year now with out any issues. >> >> Take care all. >> >> Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. >> Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening >> >> On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Colin, >>> >>> You'll probably get other suggestions, but if I'm buying an external HD for storing work data, where I care most about reliability, then I'll buy a G-Technology Drive: >>> http://www.g-technology.com/ >>> >>> I purchased a 3 Terabyte G-Drive (SATA with both USB and FireWire connectors) just before Christmas for just under $300 (about ?190). There are certainly cheaper solutions. And I know that Gordon recommended the Promise Smartstor DS4600 system as a RAID disk system (which is industrial strength -- not something I'd use as a single user who is not working with servers and storage.) Sarah recommended the Western Digital My Passport Essential drive (look for her review from last August). That's a portable drive. I've been a bit leery of the Western Digital portable MyPassport drives since reading a lot of bad reviews in Fall 2010 (I bought one from the Apple Store, found a ton of failure reports around that time, and returned it without using. The salesperson who exchanged it for a G-Drive admitted that he had bought one of the WD MyPassport drives a couple of months earlier and had already had to send it back twice to the manufacturer.) Not sure why there was such a plummet in quality, because the early models reviewed well. I think the larger Western Digital My Book Studio drives are still well regarded. >>> >>> I'd go to a site like Newegg.com, or Tiger Direct, and read the reviews and ratings by customers. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all! >>>> I'm looking at getting a external HD and was wondering which make's people think are good matches with the Mac! >>>> I'm new to buying them so have no idea which are good or to avoid! >>>> TIA >>>> Colin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > > -- > Kevin J. Andrews > Email: kevin.andrews94 at gmail.com > > > "A man who never made a mistake never tried anything new."-Albert Einstein > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Tue Feb 14 20:47:19 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:47:19 -1000 Subject: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone? In-Reply-To: References: <46b90df4-e6e7-c88b-9928-95a0ea9c8728@me.com> <7CB59CDE66BE44A88D1C4E2EBB057166@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <1D020FA7-AFB5-4970-A931-AE44FF985FDF@mac.com> Hi Mike, If you haven't yet purchased FutureTap's "Where To? -- Discover your next destination" app, it's on sale now for Valentine's Day. This will supply points of interests for all your destinations in Europe and the US, sorted by distance from your current location (or a location or address that you specify -- which can be selected from your Address Book). Results can be sent to GPS apps that can give turn by turn instructions (Navigon, TomTom, MotionX GPS Drive, Sygic, or the Maps app), or you can use the updating direction and distance feature in the app to monitor your travel towards a POI. ? "Where To? -- Discover your next destination" ($0.99, normally $2.99) by FutureTap: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Cheers, Esther From khwicca at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 22:45:44 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:45:44 -0500 Subject: Network question Message-ID: I am using wifi and once upon a time I used a network next door because it was available and I was replacing my router. Now, even though I am using my own network, every time I reboot, or the computer goes to sleep, the network reverts back to the next door one. I want to stop this behavior and no matter how much I look and try different settings, it isn't happening. It is annoying to always have to check on which network you're using and most of the time it's the wrong one. Thanks. Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Feb 15 01:11:12 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:11:12 -0500 Subject: Network question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14A83A4E-53A6-4A12-91C9-7601DBE04560@softcon.com> You can do one of two things. First, if you have sighted assistance, simply drag and drop the networks into the preferred order (you can do this w/o sighted assistance, but it's easier if it is done by someone with vision. On the other hand, you can just remove the next door network from your list, and your system will no longer connect to it. hth. On Feb 14, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I am using wifi and once upon a time I used a network next door > because it was available and I was replacing my router. Now, even > though I am using my own network, every time I reboot, or the > computer goes to sleep, the network reverts back to the next door > one. I want to stop this behavior and no matter how much I look and > try different settings, it isn't happening. It is annoying to > always have to check on which network you're using and most of the > time it's the wrong one. > > Thanks. > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- > access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From mabuhay94 at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 02:38:56 2012 From: mabuhay94 at gmail.com (Daniela Rubio) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:38:56 -0500 Subject: Help with mailboxes in mail for mac (lion) Message-ID: <014D6531-B678-4260-9CBA-38F436D437C7@gmail.com> Hello all: I really need some help here! Today all the mailboxes I have created desapeared from the mailboxes list. I just can't find them, but they seem to be inside the trash mailbox. I think I did nothing strange, but please, if you have any ideas they would be of great help. Thank you! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com From d.trethowan at me.com Wed Feb 15 02:49:46 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:49:46 +1100 Subject: Domino Train game Message-ID: <9BB629CE-03F4-4DA7-A0F8-2963760C9C77@me.com> Hi! Could someone get back to me privately with a little more information on how one plays this game on iIOS devices? Sorry, my weak point is indeed games . From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 03:13:07 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:13:07 -0500 Subject: Network question In-Reply-To: <14A83A4E-53A6-4A12-91C9-7601DBE04560@softcon.com> References: <14A83A4E-53A6-4A12-91C9-7601DBE04560@softcon.com> Message-ID: <0FFDCC90-3CC4-4056-BF12-423ACE806A07@gmail.com> I can't find any way to remove the network. I have a preferred order, but the computer seems to ignore that. How can I remove it? Kristeen On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > You can do one of two things. > First, if you have sighted assistance, simply drag and drop the networks into the preferred order (you can do this w/o sighted assistance, but it's easier if it is done by someone with vision. > On the other hand, you can just remove the next door network from your list, and your system will no longer connect to it. > hth. > > On Feb 14, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> I am using wifi and once upon a time I used a network next door because it was available and I was replacing my router. Now, even though I am using my own network, every time I reboot, or the computer goes to sleep, the network reverts back to the next door one. I want to stop this behavior and no matter how much I look and try different settings, it isn't happening. It is annoying to always have to check on which network you're using and most of the time it's the wrong one. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Kristeen Hughes >> khwicca at gmail.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 03:17:58 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:17:58 -0500 Subject: torrent app Message-ID: <0E0EDBF8-A9B8-4085-A3B8-93AA743BCFD4@gmail.com> Is there a good torrent app out there for the mac and VO? Kristeen Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From jpanarese at mac-access.net Wed Feb 15 03:25:26 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:25:26 -0500 Subject: Network question In-Reply-To: <0FFDCC90-3CC4-4056-BF12-423ACE806A07@gmail.com> References: <14A83A4E-53A6-4A12-91C9-7601DBE04560@softcon.com> <0FFDCC90-3CC4-4056-BF12-423ACE806A07@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7E6DD370-03E6-4326-A6A4-E6866531C855@mac-access.net> In System preferences,, choosee Network. Then, navigate to the services table and make sure, wifi, is selected. Navigate to the, advanced, button and VO-space on it. Find the table of preferred networks and interact with it. Select the one you want to remove and immediately stop interacting. Use VO keys and right arrow to navigate to the, wifi preferred networks control group and interact with that. Navigate to the remove button, and VO-space on it. This should remove the network from your preferred networks table. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I can't find any way to remove the network. I have a preferred order, but the computer seems to ignore that. How can I remove it? > > Kristeen > > On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> You can do one of two things. >> First, if you have sighted assistance, simply drag and drop the networks into the preferred order (you can do this w/o sighted assistance, but it's easier if it is done by someone with vision. >> On the other hand, you can just remove the next door network from your list, and your system will no longer connect to it. >> hth. >> >> On Feb 14, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >> >>> I am using wifi and once upon a time I used a network next door because it was available and I was replacing my router. Now, even though I am using my own network, every time I reboot, or the computer goes to sleep, the network reverts back to the next door one. I want to stop this behavior and no matter how much I look and try different settings, it isn't happening. It is annoying to always have to check on which network you're using and most of the time it's the wrong one. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Kristeen Hughes >>> khwicca at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 03:30:24 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:30:24 -0500 Subject: Network question In-Reply-To: <7E6DD370-03E6-4326-A6A4-E6866531C855@mac-access.net> References: <14A83A4E-53A6-4A12-91C9-7601DBE04560@softcon.com> <0FFDCC90-3CC4-4056-BF12-423ACE806A07@gmail.com> <7E6DD370-03E6-4326-A6A4-E6866531C855@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Awesome!!! That worked! I was missing a piece there with the control group. Thanks again. Kristeen On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:25 PM, John Panarese wrote: > In System preferences,, choosee Network. > Then, navigate to the services table and make sure, wifi, is selected. > Navigate to the, advanced, button and VO-space on it. > Find the table of preferred networks and interact with it. > Select the one you want to remove and immediately stop interacting. > Use VO keys and right arrow to navigate to the, wifi preferred networks control group and interact with that. > Navigate to the remove button, and VO-space on it. > > This should remove the network from your preferred networks table. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> I can't find any way to remove the network. I have a preferred order, but the computer seems to ignore that. How can I remove it? >> >> Kristeen >> >> On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: >> >>> You can do one of two things. >>> First, if you have sighted assistance, simply drag and drop the networks into the preferred order (you can do this w/o sighted assistance, but it's easier if it is done by someone with vision. >>> On the other hand, you can just remove the next door network from your list, and your system will no longer connect to it. >>> hth. >>> >>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: >>> >>>> I am using wifi and once upon a time I used a network next door because it was available and I was replacing my router. Now, even though I am using my own network, every time I reboot, or the computer goes to sleep, the network reverts back to the next door one. I want to stop this behavior and no matter how much I look and try different settings, it isn't happening. It is annoying to always have to check on which network you're using and most of the time it's the wrong one. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Kristeen Hughes >>>> khwicca at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Kristeen Hughes >> khwicca at gmail.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From moriond at mac.com Wed Feb 15 03:36:18 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:36:18 -1000 Subject: Network question In-Reply-To: <7E6DD370-03E6-4326-A6A4-E6866531C855@mac-access.net> References: <14A83A4E-53A6-4A12-91C9-7601DBE04560@softcon.com> <0FFDCC90-3CC4-4056-BF12-423ACE806A07@gmail.com> <7E6DD370-03E6-4326-A6A4-E6866531C855@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi Kristeen, John answered this while I was typing my reply. Just one suggestion as a quick way to navigate to the correct menu in System Preferences > Network. 1. VO-M or Control-F2 to the menu bar, then arrow down 2. Press "L" to move to "Location" 3. Right arrow to the Location sub-menu, then arrow down to "Network Preferences?" and press "Return". This will put you on the correct pane with Wi-Fi highlighted. 4. Then follow John's steps for navigating to the "Advanced" button and press it (VO-Space). 5. Navigate to the table of Preferred Networks and interact (VO-Shift-Down arrow). 6. Select the network you want to remove and stop interacting (VO-Shift-Up arrow) 7. Navigate (VO-Right arrow) to "Wi-Fi Preferred Networks group" and interact, 8. Navigate to "Remove network profile button" and press (VO-space) 9. close the window with Command-W This just ensures you navigate to the correct page of your System Preferences > Network with Wi-Fi automatically selected (if you are currently connected to a Wi-Fi network). HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 14, 2012, at 5:25 PM, John Panarese wrote: > In System preferences,, choosee Network. > Then, navigate to the services table and make sure, wifi, is selected. > Navigate to the, advanced, button and VO-space on it. > Find the table of preferred networks and interact with it. > Select the one you want to remove and immediately stop interacting. > Use VO keys and right arrow to navigate to the, wifi preferred networks control group and interact with that. > Navigate to the remove button, and VO-space on it. > > This should remove the network from your preferred networks table. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> I can't find any way to remove the network. I have a preferred order, but the computer seems to ignore that. How can I remove it? >> >> Kristeen >> From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 03:44:43 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:44:43 -0500 Subject: Safari questions Message-ID: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> I know I'm pestering all of you folks and making you think, but now that there is no PC, I have to learn some of the things that I was putting off. I do try and find the answers by looking, but sometimes it doesn't seem to work for me. If you are reading a link or any text for that matter, is there any way to see what you are reading letter by letter or word by word? Also, I am very frustrated by the find feature. When I use command+f it finds what I want wonderfully, but then it won't let me go there. And, is there a quick command for finding the next occurrence of something you've already searched for? Thanks. Kristeen Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From lauriemehta at yahoo.com Wed Feb 15 03:48:30 2012 From: lauriemehta at yahoo.com (Laurie Mehta) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:48:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: question about adding recipients in messages In-Reply-To: <2D948B5E-1A21-4901-B4C6-53FCC16B4C5D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1329277710.22790.YahooMailClassic@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Thank you. --- On Sun, 2/12/12, Thomas McMahan wrote: > From: Thomas McMahan > Subject: Re: question about adding recipients in messages > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Date: Sunday, February 12, 2012, 10:20 PM > Did you end the first one with a > comma?? WHile it talks in the auto fill, just type > comma and then start typing the next.? If that doesn't > work then you have to find the last letter of the filled > address, highlight it and then re type it and comma, but > typing the comma itself should do it.? > On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Laurie Mehta wrote: > > > In Apple Mail (on a MacBook) how do you add recipients > (more than one) in the to or cc field? > > > > When I try to do this, the first address autofills > correctly, but when I try to add additional addresses this > deletes what was entered already. > > I have tried using a semicolon or a comma to separate > addresses as I would in a Windows-based program, but this > did not work for me in Apple Mail. > > > > I ended up typing each address out including greater > than and less than signs to offset them and separating them > with semicolons. This is obviously not a desirable method. > :-) > > I want to be able to take advantage of autofill from my > contacts. > > > > Thanks for any advice on how to add several recipients > into either the to or the cc fields for mail I'm sending! > > > > - Laurie (who is very new to Mac) > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted? > ? to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own > dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, > spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options > periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted? ? > to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated > web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options > periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 10:37:21 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:37:21 -0600 Subject: Safari questions In-Reply-To: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> References: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> Message-ID: In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it is is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow. If it's a link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then by interacting you can get it letter by letter. As for the other questions, don't know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to be at where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will put up with navigating instead. On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:44 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I know I'm pestering all of you folks and making you think, but now that there is no PC, I have to learn some of the things that I was putting off. I do try and find the answers by looking, but sometimes it doesn't seem to work for me. > > If you are reading a link or any text for that matter, is there any way to see what you are reading letter by letter or word by word? > > Also, I am very frustrated by the find feature. When I use command+f it finds what I want wonderfully, but then it won't let me go there. And, is there a quick command for finding the next occurrence of something you've already searched for? > > Thanks. > > Kristeen > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Wed Feb 15 10:58:43 2012 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:58:43 +0000 Subject: Safari questions In-Reply-To: References: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> Message-ID: I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and third press by phonetic spelling. It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with vo plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow. Hope this helps G From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote: > In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it is is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow. If it's a link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then by interacting you can get it letter by letter. As for the other questions, don't know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to be at where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will put up with navigating instead. From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 11:45:09 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 05:45:09 -0600 Subject: Safari questions In-Reply-To: References: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <810F3FA8-5645-4F02-B428-FD59FD198740@gmail.com> That would do it, thanks for the reminder, had forgotten about do that, makes it a lot more simple huh? On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:58 AM, Gordon Keen wrote: > I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and third press by phonetic spelling. > > It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with vo plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow. > > Hope this helps > > G > > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. > On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote: > >> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it is is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow. If it's a link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then by interacting you can get it letter by letter. As for the other questions, don't know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to be at where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will put up with navigating instead. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk Wed Feb 15 11:58:28 2012 From: sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk (Sunil Peck) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:58:28 +0000 Subject: Unable to use iTunes while autofilling iPhone Message-ID: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02E5933A4F64@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Hi, I wanted to watch a video in iTunes while iTunes was simultaneously autofilling my iPhone. But soon after the process started I heard the 'iTunes busy' announcement when I pressed a key or tried to navigate anywhere within iTunes. I turned Voiceover off and back on several times but the problem persisted. After about half an hour I powered my MacBook down because I had no way of finding out what was going on in iTunes or how to get it to function properly. I'm using a MacBook Pro running the latest version of Lion and my iPhone is a 16gb 3GS. I had allocated either 8 or 10gb of the iPhone's memory and the library it was autofilling from is about 40gb. Is there anything I can do so that next time, iTunes isn't rendered completely useless during the autofill process? If for instance it's worth autofilling less of my iPhone's memory, how much would it be worth reducing the 8 or 10gb by? Thanks in advance for advice. Sunil ________________________________ Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by guarantee (number 520866). 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From va3ets2000 at me.com Wed Feb 15 13:16:39 2012 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:16:39 -0500 Subject: Pandora Clients for Mac In-Reply-To: <3052FD19-8005-4F03-8CCE-31837659B89E@me.com> References: <3052FD19-8005-4F03-8CCE-31837659B89E@me.com> Message-ID: No, have not tried them, as I don't believe PAndora can be used outside the US, and I'm in Canada here. GRRRR, wish it could, as it sounds really cool. On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > The new version of Airfoil has integration with a number of Pandora clients for the Mac > > Just wondering if anyone has tried the clients listed at the above link, are any accessible? > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.trethowan at me.com Wed Feb 15 14:20:56 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 01:20:56 +1100 Subject: Pandora Clients for Mac In-Reply-To: References: <3052FD19-8005-4F03-8CCE-31837659B89E@me.com> Message-ID: <2CFF9A65-3A40-429E-875B-C045546E537D@me.com> Yep, it can be used outside the U.S. if you use a VPN service such as Witopia, I use a Windows client at the moment but would like to use the service on my Mac so I'm going to investigate these clients, even better if at least one is accessible and better still! if it integrates seamlessly into Airfoil. On 16/02/2012, at 12:16 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > No, have not tried them, as I don't believe PAndora can be used outside the US, and I'm in Canada here. GRRRR, wish it could, as it sounds really cool. > On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> The new version of Airfoil has integration with a number of Pandora clients for the Mac >> >> Just wondering if anyone has tried the clients listed at the above link, are any accessible? >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 15:35:13 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:35:13 -0500 Subject: Louis Message-ID: I tried using Louis on my Mac to turn text into Braille, but it won't run. Does anyone know if there's an update out there that'll run under Lion? Jane From khwicca at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 15:49:06 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:49:06 -0500 Subject: Safari questions In-Reply-To: References: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <721C37F6-912A-4521-A1A2-6F13F842DB64@gmail.com> Thank you. It helped a lot. Kristeen On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Gordon Keen wrote: > I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and third press by phonetic spelling. > > It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with vo plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow. > > Hope this helps > > G > > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. > On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote: > >> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it is is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow. If it's a link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then by interacting you can get it letter by letter. As for the other questions, don't know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to be at where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will put up with navigating instead. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 16:48:08 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:48:08 -0500 Subject: Safari questions References: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> <721C37F6-912A-4521-A1A2-6F13F842DB64@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9B60F39F52C142D599A3498BDF664906@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Kristeen, One tool that may help with searching is the item chooser (VO-i). Its functionality seems to have been abated in Lion, but its remains a way to quickly skip to elements on the web and elsewhere. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Kristeen Hughes To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Safari questions Thank you. It helped a lot. Kristeen On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Gordon Keen wrote: > I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and third press by phonetic spelling. > > It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with vo plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow. > > Hope this helps > > G > > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. > On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote: > >> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it is is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow. If it's a link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then by interacting you can get it letter by letter. As for the other questions, don't know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to be at where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will put up with navigating instead. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moriond at mac.com Wed Feb 15 17:20:57 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:20:57 -1000 Subject: Safari questions In-Reply-To: <9B60F39F52C142D599A3498BDF664906@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> <721C37F6-912A-4521-A1A2-6F13F842DB64@gmail.com> <9B60F39F52C142D599A3498BDF664906@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <9984704F-0373-4886-A574-7FEAF389B9CA@mac.com> Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others, I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for both current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A nice feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an item to include category. For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a web page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their "Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results for links. If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead for the second match. By then, there are only a few matches on the menu, and I can arrow down to the match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space to be taken to my selection. Remember that item chooser menu only navigates you to an element. If there's a link or button that you're trying to activate you still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press. If you decide to amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start typing again. Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help find things. Geoff, in what regards do feel item chooser's functionality has been abated in Lion? Also, which web item rotor settings do people find most helpful to use/add? (From the experience on the iPhone, surprisingly, images are very useful for navigation on the iOS screens). Cheers, Esther On Feb 15, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Kristeen, > > One tool that may help with searching is the item chooser (VO-i). Its functionality seems to have been abated in Lion, but its remains a way to quickly skip to elements on the web and elsewhere. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kristeen Hughes > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: Safari questions > > > Thank you. It helped a lot. > > Kristeen > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Gordon Keen wrote: > >> I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and third press by phonetic spelling. >> >> It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with vo plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow. >> >> Hope this helps >> >> G >> >> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. >> On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote: >> >>> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it is is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow. If it's a link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then by interacting you can get it letter by letter. As for the other questions, don't know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to be at where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will put up with navigating instead. >> From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Feb 15 18:49:49 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:49:49 -0500 Subject: Safari questions In-Reply-To: <810F3FA8-5645-4F02-B428-FD59FD198740@gmail.com> References: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> <810F3FA8-5645-4F02-B428-FD59FD198740@gmail.com> Message-ID: To navigate letter-by-letter, use vo-shift-left/right arrow. That will move you a character at a time, as long as you're already interacting with the item in question. hth. From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Wed Feb 15 19:15:31 2012 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:15:31 +0000 Subject: Safari questions In-Reply-To: <9984704F-0373-4886-A574-7FEAF389B9CA@mac.com> References: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> <721C37F6-912A-4521-A1A2-6F13F842DB64@gmail.com> <9B60F39F52C142D599A3498BDF664906@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <9984704F-0373-4886-A574-7FEAF389B9CA@mac.com> Message-ID: Isn't she wonderful? I've learnt so much from Esther's helpful posts, it's a pity there's not a BAFTA, Golden Globe or Oscar we can award her. Heartfelt thanks G From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. On 15 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Esther wrote: > Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others, > > I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for both current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A nice feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an item to include category. For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a web page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their "Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results for links. If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead for the second match. By then, there are only a few matches on the menu, and I can arrow down to the match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space to be taken to my selection. Remember that item chooser menu only navigates you to an element. If there's a link or button that you're trying to activate you > still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press. If you decide to amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start typing again. Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help find things. > From mattchao at verizon.net Wed Feb 15 19:26:53 2012 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:26:53 -0500 Subject: Determining Status of Download Message-ID: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> Hi, Folks. I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 4.x. How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount received? I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the download status. Thanks in advance for your help. Matthew Chao From jpanarese at mac-access.net Wed Feb 15 19:40:03 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:40:03 -0500 Subject: Determining Status of Download In-Reply-To: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> References: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> Message-ID: <281045E7-6DE0-4020-AC65-8D4BB032BF15@mac-access.net> Try option-command-l. That should get you to the download status popup. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks. I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 4.x. How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount received? I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the download status. Thanks in advance for your help. > > Matthew Chao > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From Mattchao at verizon.net Wed Feb 15 19:51:15 2012 From: Mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:51:15 -0500 Subject: Determining Status of Download In-Reply-To: <281045E7-6DE0-4020-AC65-8D4BB032BF15@mac-access.net> References: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> <281045E7-6DE0-4020-AC65-8D4BB032BF15@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <11409A08-E8F2-4161-BEEC-9E42BF6D1946@verizon.net> Hi, John. Thanks for the tip. Also, have some questions about Fusion. Does the full version download contain the Fusion Tools, compared to the "lite" download, or do they both have the tools? Thanks. Matthew Chao On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:40 PM, John Panarese wrote: > Try option-command-l. That should get you to the download status popup. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > >> Hi, Folks. I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 4.x. How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount received? I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the download status. Thanks in advance for your help. >> >> Matthew Chao >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Wed Feb 15 19:53:51 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:53:51 -1000 Subject: Determining Status of Download In-Reply-To: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> References: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1004EB09-AF15-43A5-8C31-8BD2BCECEE06@mac.com> Hi Matthew, I'm new to Lion, so someone else may have a better answer for you. If you're in Safari, there's a "Downloads button" on the toolbar that you can navigate to by pressing Command-Option-F (to move to the Google search field) then navigate with VO-Right arrow to the button and press it (VO-Space). You need to have your toolbar showing in order for this to work (Command-Shift-Backslash to toggle this between show and hide on an English input keyboard). Once you have pressed this button, the Command-Option-L shortcut to bring up the Downloads window of Safari seems to work from Safari. When I first started using Safari 5.1.2 under Lion a few days ago, I tried Command-Option-L and couldn't get this shortcut to work for me from Safari. It will work from Finder to show the downloads folder, but not from Safari. The issue was that I usually keep my Safari toolbar hidden. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks. I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 4.x. How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount received? I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the download status. Thanks in advance for your help. > > Matthew Chao > From jpanarese at mac-access.net Wed Feb 15 19:54:25 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:54:25 -0500 Subject: Determining Status of Download In-Reply-To: <11409A08-E8F2-4161-BEEC-9E42BF6D1946@verizon.net> References: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> <281045E7-6DE0-4020-AC65-8D4BB032BF15@mac-access.net> <11409A08-E8F2-4161-BEEC-9E42BF6D1946@verizon.net> Message-ID: Unfortunately, I have yet to try Fusion, so I really don't know the answer to that. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, John. Thanks for the tip. Also, have some questions about Fusion. Does the full version download contain the Fusion Tools, compared to the "lite" download, or do they both have the tools? Thanks. > > Matthew Chao > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:40 PM, John Panarese wrote: > >> Try option-command-l. That should get you to the download status popup. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: >> >>> Hi, Folks. I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 4.x. How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount received? I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the download status. Thanks in advance for your help. >>> >>> Matthew Chao >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Wed Feb 15 19:57:54 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:57:54 -1000 Subject: Determining Status of Download In-Reply-To: <281045E7-6DE0-4020-AC65-8D4BB032BF15@mac-access.net> References: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> <281045E7-6DE0-4020-AC65-8D4BB032BF15@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <676B1AC7-0FC4-4746-BCD1-739482006ADA@mac.com> Hi John, Can you use Command-Option-L from Safari to show the downloads window if you don't have the toolbar showing? Also, I thought that when I first tried this (even with the toolbar showing) that I couldn't get Command-Option-L to show the downloads window. It was only after I navigated to the "Downloads button" in the Safari toolbar and pressed it (VO-Space) that I was able to use Command-Option-L from Safari (as opposed to from Finder) to show the Downloads window. Cheers, Esther On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:40 AM, John Panarese wrote: > Try option-command-l. That should get you to the download status popup. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > >> Hi, Folks. I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 4.x. How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount received? I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the download status. Thanks in advance for your help. >> >> Matthew Chao >> >> From Mattchao at verizon.net Wed Feb 15 20:04:45 2012 From: Mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:04:45 -0500 Subject: Determining Status of Download In-Reply-To: <1004EB09-AF15-43A5-8C31-8BD2BCECEE06@mac.com> References: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> <1004EB09-AF15-43A5-8C31-8BD2BCECEE06@mac.com> Message-ID: <2C9592BA-D963-4BB2-907A-1E865DDE8EE6@verizon.net> Hi, Esther. Thanks for the info. I've upgraded my system to Lion this past fall, so I'm still learning. Worse yet, since my work uses Windows, I don't have a lot of time to devote to my Mac, so it gets confusing at times. Again, thanks. Matthew Chao On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > I'm new to Lion, so someone else may have a better answer for you. If you're in Safari, there's a "Downloads button" on the toolbar that you can navigate to by pressing Command-Option-F (to move to the Google search field) then navigate with VO-Right arrow to the button and press it (VO-Space). You need to have your toolbar showing in order for this to work (Command-Shift-Backslash to toggle this between show and hide on an English input keyboard). > > Once you have pressed this button, the Command-Option-L shortcut to bring up the Downloads window of Safari seems to work from Safari. When I first started using Safari 5.1.2 under Lion a few days ago, I tried Command-Option-L and couldn't get this shortcut to work for me from Safari. It will work from Finder to show the downloads folder, but not from Safari. > > The issue was that I usually keep my Safari toolbar hidden. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: > >> Hi, Folks. I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 4.x. How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount received? I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the download status. Thanks in advance for your help. >> >> Matthew Chao >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From Mattchao at verizon.net Wed Feb 15 20:07:47 2012 From: Mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:07:47 -0500 Subject: Determining Status of Download In-Reply-To: References: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> <281045E7-6DE0-4020-AC65-8D4BB032BF15@mac-access.net> <11409A08-E8F2-4161-BEEC-9E42BF6D1946@verizon.net> Message-ID: <47E9E941-2C8C-4CE5-A2D5-52F3BBFD7F42@verizon.net> Hi, John. Thanks. Will give your ideas a try. Matthew Chao On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:54 PM, John Panarese wrote: > Unfortunately, I have yet to try Fusion, so I really don't know the answer to that. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > >> Hi, John. Thanks for the tip. Also, have some questions about Fusion. Does the full version download contain the Fusion Tools, compared to the "lite" download, or do they both have the tools? Thanks. >> >> Matthew Chao >> >> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:40 PM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> Try option-command-l. That should get you to the download status popup. >>> >>> Take Care >>> John Panarese >>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Folks. I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 4.x. How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount received? I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the download status. Thanks in advance for your help. >>>> >>>> Matthew Chao >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jpanarese at mac-access.net Wed Feb 15 20:10:00 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:10:00 -0500 Subject: Determining Status of Download In-Reply-To: <676B1AC7-0FC4-4746-BCD1-739482006ADA@mac.com> References: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> <281045E7-6DE0-4020-AC65-8D4BB032BF15@mac-access.net> <676B1AC7-0FC4-4746-BCD1-739482006ADA@mac.com> Message-ID: <1F3BE805-491F-4B0E-B1F8-EBADA03EB53F@mac-access.net> It wasn't working initially. I know in the first release of Lion it wasn't working at all. However, I'm not sure if something was added, but someone pointed it out to me a few months ago that it is working again. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi John, > > Can you use Command-Option-L from Safari to show the downloads window if you don't have the toolbar showing? Also, I thought that when I first tried this (even with the toolbar showing) that I couldn't get Command-Option-L to show the downloads window. It was only after I navigated to the "Downloads button" in the Safari toolbar and pressed it (VO-Space) that I was able to use Command-Option-L from Safari (as opposed to from Finder) to show the Downloads window. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:40 AM, John Panarese wrote: > >> Try option-command-l. That should get you to the download status popup. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: >> >>> Hi, Folks. I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 4.x. How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount received? I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the download status. Thanks in advance for your help. >>> >>> Matthew Chao >>> >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Wed Feb 15 20:11:37 2012 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:11:37 +1100 Subject: Last Fm In-Reply-To: References: <3052FD19-8005-4F03-8CCE-31837659B89E@me.com> Message-ID: <5FBF7FD768A0430D872F3D2DB461FB89@PaulaPC> Hi there Try last fm, it's a similar concept and quite good. You can use it by using the web interface too. Take care Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Dan Eickmeier Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:17 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Pandora Clients for Mac No, have not tried them, as I don't believe PAndora can be used outside the US, and I'm in Canada here. GRRRR, wish it could, as it sounds really cool. On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > The new version of Airfoil has integration with a number of Pandora clients for the Mac > > Just wondering if anyone has tried the clients listed at the above link, are any accessible? > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Wed Feb 15 20:12:17 2012 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:12:17 +1100 Subject: Pandora Clients for Mac In-Reply-To: <2CFF9A65-3A40-429E-875B-C045546E537D@me.com> References: <3052FD19-8005-4F03-8CCE-31837659B89E@me.com> <2CFF9A65-3A40-429E-875B-C045546E537D@me.com> Message-ID: <71CD3DB8DB944C58A549F36F250E08C6@PaulaPC> You can use Pandora outside the Us? How do we do this? I'm in Australia. Thanks for your help Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 1:21 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Pandora Clients for Mac Yep, it can be used outside the U.S. if you use a VPN service such as Witopia, I use a Windows client at the moment but would like to use the service on my Mac so I'm going to investigate these clients, even better if at least one is accessible and better still! if it integrates seamlessly into Airfoil. On 16/02/2012, at 12:16 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > No, have not tried them, as I don't believe PAndora can be used outside the US, and I'm in Canada here. GRRRR, wish it could, as it sounds really cool. > On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> The new version of Airfoil has integration with a number of Pandora clients for the Mac >> >> Just wondering if anyone has tried the clients listed at the above link, are any accessible? >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moriond at mac.com Wed Feb 15 20:19:11 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:19:11 -1000 Subject: Determining Status of Download In-Reply-To: <1F3BE805-491F-4B0E-B1F8-EBADA03EB53F@mac-access.net> References: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> <281045E7-6DE0-4020-AC65-8D4BB032BF15@mac-access.net> <676B1AC7-0FC4-4746-BCD1-739482006ADA@mac.com> <1F3BE805-491F-4B0E-B1F8-EBADA03EB53F@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <65F05836-0795-405B-93A5-A114A9CF42AF@mac.com> Hi John, I'm doing this on a clean install of Lion from about a week ago, and the Command-Option-L shortcut for viewing the Downloads window in Safari only works for me if I have the Safari toolbar showing. Otherwise, even though VoiceOver says "Show Downloads" when I press Command-Option-L in Safari, it doesn't actually show me the downloads window. I'm used to hiding my toolbar, which is a habit so that the extra elements don't show up when I use item chooser menu. This is not a big thing, because there aren't that many of them, but it's a habit of mine, since I can still use Command-Option-F to go to the Google search field or Command-L to move to the address bar, and the toolbar will open up for the operation and then close again. But what I found is that: 1) Command-Option-L only works if my Safari toolbar is showing -- otherwise there's no downloads window, even if it is announced 2) Even if the toolbar is showing, Command-Option-L didn't work for me until after the first time I navigated to the Downloads button and pressed it. Again, this is the experience from a recent clean install. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:10 AM, John Panarese wrote: > It wasn't working initially. I know in the first release of Lion it wasn't working at all. However, I'm not sure if something was added, but someone pointed it out to me a few months ago that it is working again. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> Can you use Command-Option-L from Safari to show the downloads window if you don't have the toolbar showing? Also, I thought that when I first tried this (even with the toolbar showing) that I couldn't get Command-Option-L to show the downloads window. It was only after I navigated to the "Downloads button" in the Safari toolbar and pressed it (VO-Space) that I was able to use Command-Option-L from Safari (as opposed to from Finder) to show the Downloads window. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:40 AM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> Try option-command-l. That should get you to the download status popup. >>> >>> Take Care >>> John Panarese >>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Folks. I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 4.x. How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount received? I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the download status. Thanks in advance for your help. >>>> >>>> Matthew Chao >>>> >>>> From d.trethowan at me.com Wed Feb 15 20:21:35 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:21:35 +1100 Subject: Paula Hobley In-Reply-To: <71CD3DB8DB944C58A549F36F250E08C6@PaulaPC> References: <3052FD19-8005-4F03-8CCE-31837659B89E@me.com> <2CFF9A65-3A40-429E-875B-C045546E537D@me.com> <71CD3DB8DB944C58A549F36F250E08C6@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <871523B8-2510-42AA-9D22-09F986680FBB@me.com> Hi! I'm replying to you privately as this thread will probably stray off topic for the list a little . The first thing you need to be able to use Pandora is a VPN or Virtual Private Network, there are several services around which provide these including Hotspot Shield at the Mac client is accessible and there's a free version available though I would suggest that you get the paid version as its not restricted, has no advertising etc. Once you're "behind the shield" networks in the U.S. are fooled into thinking you're in the States rather than from Australia thus you can access a whole heap of material you normally wouldn't be able to otherwise from Australia if you were using your standard Internet. I'm from Australia myself and I use a VPN here though my system is a little more complex than what I've outlined, I won't go into it here unless you're particularly interested. Now the next thing and this is of particular concern if you plan to use Pandora, as I understand it the web interface isn't particularly accessible thus you need a Pandora client or player, I have tested one for Windows called "Hope", its $10.00 to buy and is very nice, as yet I haven't tested a Pandora client for Mac but they're out there, at least 2 of them. On 16/02/2012, at 7:12 AM, Paula Hobley wrote: > You can use Pandora outside the Us? How do we do this? I'm in Australia. > > Thanks for your help > > Paula > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 1:21 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Pandora Clients for Mac > > Yep, it can be used outside the U.S. if you use a VPN service such as > Witopia, I use a Windows client at the moment but would like to use the > service on my Mac so I'm going to investigate these clients, even better if > at least one is accessible and better still! if it integrates seamlessly > into Airfoil. > > > On 16/02/2012, at 12:16 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> No, have not tried them, as I don't believe PAndora can be used outside > the US, and I'm in Canada here. GRRRR, wish it could, as it sounds really > cool. >> On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> The new version of Airfoil has integration with a number of Pandora > clients for the Mac > -airfoil/> >>> >>> Just wondering if anyone has tried the clients listed at the above link, > are any accessible? >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Wed Feb 15 20:29:48 2012 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:29:48 +1100 Subject: Pandora In-Reply-To: <871523B8-2510-42AA-9D22-09F986680FBB@me.com> References: <3052FD19-8005-4F03-8CCE-31837659B89E@me.com><2CFF9A65-3A40-429E-875B-C045546E537D@me.com><71CD3DB8DB944C58A549F36F250E08C6@PaulaPC> <871523B8-2510-42AA-9D22-09F986680FBB@me.com> Message-ID: <7926E1A892F744F68E8FECF0B872772C@PaulaPC> Hi Dane Firstly, appologies for posting this to the list, I can't access Dane's actual email address. I know this is off topic. Thanks for replying to my message. Is there any chance you would be able to talk me through this on skype on the weekend? It is sounding a little complex, I'm reasonably technologically savvie, but this is all very new. I have skype. Thanks very much for your help. Take care and have a wonderful day. Cheers Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 7:22 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Paula Hobley Hi! I'm replying to you privately as this thread will probably stray off topic for the list a little . The first thing you need to be able to use Pandora is a VPN or Virtual Private Network, there are several services around which provide these including Hotspot Shield at the Mac client is accessible and there's a free version available though I would suggest that you get the paid version as its not restricted, has no advertising etc. Once you're "behind the shield" networks in the U.S. are fooled into thinking you're in the States rather than from Australia thus you can access a whole heap of material you normally wouldn't be able to otherwise from Australia if you were using your standard Internet. I'm from Australia myself and I use a VPN here though my system is a little more complex than what I've outlined, I won't go into it here unless you're particularly interested. Now the next thing and this is of particular concern if you plan to use Pandora, as I understand it the web interface isn't particularly accessible thus you need a Pandora client or player, I have tested one for Windows called "Hope", its $10.00 to buy and is very nice, as yet I haven't tested a Pandora client for Mac but they're out there, at least 2 of them. On 16/02/2012, at 7:12 AM, Paula Hobley wrote: > You can use Pandora outside the Us? How do we do this? I'm in Australia. > > Thanks for your help > > Paula > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 1:21 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Pandora Clients for Mac > > Yep, it can be used outside the U.S. if you use a VPN service such as > Witopia, I use a Windows client at the moment but would like to use the > service on my Mac so I'm going to investigate these clients, even better if > at least one is accessible and better still! if it integrates seamlessly > into Airfoil. > > > On 16/02/2012, at 12:16 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> No, have not tried them, as I don't believe PAndora can be used outside > the US, and I'm in Canada here. GRRRR, wish it could, as it sounds really > cool. >> On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:05 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> The new version of Airfoil has integration with a number of Pandora > clients for the Mac > -airfoil/> >>> >>> Just wondering if anyone has tried the clients listed at the above link, > are any accessible? >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jpanarese at mac-access.net Wed Feb 15 20:33:03 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:33:03 -0500 Subject: Determining Status of Download In-Reply-To: <65F05836-0795-405B-93A5-A114A9CF42AF@mac.com> References: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> <281045E7-6DE0-4020-AC65-8D4BB032BF15@mac-access.net> <676B1AC7-0FC4-4746-BCD1-739482006ADA@mac.com> <1F3BE805-491F-4B0E-B1F8-EBADA03EB53F@mac-access.net> <65F05836-0795-405B-93A5-A114A9CF42AF@mac.com> Message-ID: <048E78D2-3645-429D-9646-CA7BB22E3A6C@mac-access.net> Hi Sther, My toolbar is showing, so that is probably a factor for sure. I don't normally hide the toolbar. Like I said, when I first installed, Lion, the option-command-l would not work at all to show the downloads window. I had to use an Apple Script toggle to get it to work. However, someone pointed out to me a few months ago that the shortcut was suddenly working again. When I then tried it, I suddenly was having success. So, I assume the toolbar might be a factor now. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi John, > > I'm doing this on a clean install of Lion from about a week ago, and the Command-Option-L shortcut for viewing the Downloads window in Safari only works for me if I have the Safari toolbar showing. Otherwise, even though VoiceOver says "Show Downloads" when I press Command-Option-L in Safari, it doesn't actually show me the downloads window. > > I'm used to hiding my toolbar, which is a habit so that the extra elements don't show up when I use item chooser menu. This is not a big thing, because there aren't that many of them, but it's a habit of mine, since I can still use Command-Option-F to go to the Google search field or Command-L to move to the address bar, and the toolbar will open up for the operation and then close again. > > But what I found is that: > 1) Command-Option-L only works if my Safari toolbar is showing -- otherwise there's no downloads window, even if it is announced > 2) Even if the toolbar is showing, Command-Option-L didn't work for me until after the first time I navigated to the Downloads button and pressed it. > > Again, this is the experience from a recent clean install. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:10 AM, John Panarese wrote: > >> It wasn't working initially. I know in the first release of Lion it wasn't working at all. However, I'm not sure if something was added, but someone pointed it out to me a few months ago that it is working again. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> Can you use Command-Option-L from Safari to show the downloads window if you don't have the toolbar showing? Also, I thought that when I first tried this (even with the toolbar showing) that I couldn't get Command-Option-L to show the downloads window. It was only after I navigated to the "Downloads button" in the Safari toolbar and pressed it (VO-Space) that I was able to use Command-Option-L from Safari (as opposed to from Finder) to show the Downloads window. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:40 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>>> Try option-command-l. That should get you to the download status popup. >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> John Panarese >>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Folks. I'm in the process of downloading the latest version of Fusion 4.x. How do I determine the status of the download e.g., size and amount received? I know how to switch between my Safari windows, but can't get the download status. Thanks in advance for your help. >>>>> >>>>> Matthew Chao >>>>> >>>>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Wed Feb 15 21:02:15 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:02:15 -0500 Subject: Help with mailboxes in mail for mac (lion) In-Reply-To: <014D6531-B678-4260-9CBA-38F436D437C7@gmail.com> References: <014D6531-B678-4260-9CBA-38F436D437C7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Daniela, I'm not a strong mail user. I'm sorry this happened to you. It would be very stressful to me if this happened. The only thing I can think to try is to try pressing rebuild the last option in the mailbox tab in Mail. Other then that I would probably go to a time machine backup or a Carbon Copy cloner backup., that is if you have either available. Sorry I don't have more or better suggestions. Eric Caron On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote: > Hello all: > I really need some help here! Today all the mailboxes I have created desapeared from the mailboxes list. I just can't find them, but they seem to be inside the trash mailbox. I think I did nothing strange, but please, if you have any ideas they would be of great help. > Thank you! > > SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. > MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. > EN TWITTER: @macneticos > NUESTRO BLOG EN: > www.macneticus.blogspot.com > Y EL PODCAST EN:` > http://macneticos.libsyn.com > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mabuhay94 at gmail.com Wed Feb 15 22:14:41 2012 From: mabuhay94 at gmail.com (Daniela Rubio) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:14:41 -0500 Subject: Help with mailboxes in mail for mac (lion) In-Reply-To: References: <014D6531-B678-4260-9CBA-38F436D437C7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <01FCBCF6-0C81-4DC8-91A6-CF0D05420DAE@gmail.com> Thank you Erick. I just can`t find the rebuilt the last obtion button in the mailbox tab. more hearts? I can't do a time Machine, because I have being bad and I don't have my hard drive here. Now I am in the US training with a new dog guide. Well, thank you so much and I will be waiting for more ideas if some come! take care! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 15/02/2012, a las 16:02, Eric Caron escribi?: > Hi Daniela, > > I'm not a strong mail user. I'm sorry this happened to you. It would be very stressful to me if this happened. > > The only thing I can think to try is to try pressing rebuild the last option in the mailbox tab in Mail. > > Other then that I would probably go to a time machine backup or a Carbon Copy cloner backup., that is if you have either available. > > Sorry I don't have more or better suggestions. > > Eric Caron > > > On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote: > >> Hello all: >> I really need some help here! Today all the mailboxes I have created desapeared from the mailboxes list. I just can't find them, but they seem to be inside the trash mailbox. I think I did nothing strange, but please, if you have any ideas they would be of great help. >> Thank you! >> >> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. >> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. >> EN TWITTER: @macneticos >> NUESTRO BLOG EN: >> www.macneticus.blogspot.com >> Y EL PODCAST EN:` >> http://macneticos.libsyn.com >> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Feb 15 22:21:32 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:21:32 -0500 Subject: Help with mailboxes in mail for mac (lion) In-Reply-To: <01FCBCF6-0C81-4DC8-91A6-CF0D05420DAE@gmail.com> References: <014D6531-B678-4260-9CBA-38F436D437C7@gmail.com> <01FCBCF6-0C81-4DC8-91A6-CF0D05420DAE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3FAE49ED-5D91-4BAD-9A74-52EA57E47B6A@softcon.com> I don't have lion, (don't have the ram for it) but it's possible your mailboxes aren't trashed at all. If you highlight the trash folder, and use the vo-backslash key combination, it will close the trash folder, then you can navigate up/down (mostly up) and see if your other folders are still there. It's perfectly normal for your mailboxes to show up in the trash folder, because that's where your deleted mail goes. This does not mean that your mailboxes are gone, only that all the messages you deleted are in the trash. This has no bearing at all on the folders that exist in your actual inbox. Obviously, it is possible you've deleted your entire inbox and all it's folders, but it's rather difficult to do that by accident, so I'd wager you'll find your mailboxes after you collapse the trash folder, then go up again to see the other mailboxes. hth. From opensesame at me.com Wed Feb 15 22:40:01 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:40:01 -0500 Subject: Determining Status of Download In-Reply-To: <65F05836-0795-405B-93A5-A114A9CF42AF@mac.com> References: <779ED63A-3584-44B1-BB80-09B89F462E09@verizon.net> <281045E7-6DE0-4020-AC65-8D4BB032BF15@mac-access.net> <676B1AC7-0FC4-4746-BCD1-739482006ADA@mac.com> <1F3BE805-491F-4B0E-B1F8-EBADA03EB53F@mac-access.net> <65F05836-0795-405B-93A5-A114A9CF42AF@mac.com> Message-ID: I can confirm that the Command+Option+L combo does not open the safari downloads window on my MBA running Lion 10.7.3 if I have the toolbar hiddne. VO announces "Show downloads" but does not open the window. Same results if I have the toolbar hidden but the bookmarks bar showing. Same results if VO is turned off. Same results if I try to activate the downloads window through the View menu option. Same results with the latest build of webkit. Same results if I've had 3 extra shots of espresso before trying this. BTW Esther -- Glad to hear you're now running Lion! I'll drop my plan to request that the next Applevis campaign be to "Get Esther upgraded to Lion." ;) Cheers, Bryan On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Esther wrote: > I'm doing this on a clean install of Lion from about a week ago, and the Command-Option-L shortcut for viewing the Downloads window in Safari only works for me if I have the Safari toolbar showing. Otherwise, even though VoiceOver says "Show Downloads" when I press Command-Option-L in Safari, it doesn't actually show me the downloads window. > > I'm used to hiding my toolbar, which is a habit so that the extra elements don't show up when I use item chooser menu. This is not a big thing, because there aren't that many of them, but it's a habit of mine, since I can still use Command-Option-F to go to the Google search field or Command-L to move to the address bar, and the toolbar will open up for the operation and then close again. > > But what I found is that: > 1) Command-Option-L only works if my Safari toolbar is showing -- otherwise there's no downloads window, even if it is announced > 2) Even if the toolbar is showing, Command-Option-L didn't work for me until after the first time I navigated to the Downloads button and pressed it. From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Thu Feb 16 02:25:04 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:25:04 -0500 Subject: Amadeus Pro Small Podcasts Message-ID: <69E3F458-FD6B-4E3E-BEE9-CD075D7A7996@Mac-Access.net> Paul and other interested listers, Paul had asked about some additional features in Amadeus Pro. The link below is to a zipped folder with two podcast that were done by Dave, a man who wanted to add to the podcast I did a few years ago. He said I could give them to those who might be interested. It has been some time since I heard them. The style is rather unique, and there is good information covered. Here is the link for anyone who might be interested in trying them. I'll leave it up for a week or so. Eric Caron http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/Dave%27s%20Podcasts.zip From margaretebooth at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 06:00:48 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:00:48 +1100 Subject: Maxamising windows in text edit Message-ID: <-7496823556333320093@unknownmsgid> Can someone tell me how to maximise the window when I'm working in text edit. Margaret Sent from my iPhone From margaretebooth at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 06:09:47 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:09:47 +1100 Subject: pasting text from an email into text edit Message-ID: <558253539321955228@unknownmsgid> When I copy text from an email and then paste the text into text edit it turns out as a paragrapph. This is the way vo reads the text.. I have tried press enter after paragraphs but this doesn't work. What can I do to fix it? Margaret Sent from my iPhone From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 06:26:29 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:26:29 +0000 Subject: wifi sync Message-ID: <0C34B24C-B2EC-4A46-B0A5-B941807E6450@gmail.com> hi all, does wifis ync work when the iphone 4 is connected to the wall outlet? for me it only found the mac when plugged in to the mac itself via wifi what is the point in this? From tsiegel at softcon.com Thu Feb 16 07:25:36 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:25:36 -0500 Subject: Maxamising windows in text edit In-Reply-To: <-7496823556333320093@unknownmsgid> References: <-7496823556333320093@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: I'm not sure what you mean by maximize the window. What are you trying to accomplish? If you want text edit to be the only item vissible on the screen, then use hide others (in the text edit menu, usually command-shift-h) This should move all other running applications out of the viewing area, leaving just text edit in the foreground. I'm told this doesn't always work, but when it does, it frees the screen of clutter, making it easier for sighted folks to help you find things on the screen. If you're trying to make the window as large as possible, then use the zoom option it's available under the window menu, though it doesn't have a keystroke tied to it by default, though if it's something you use regularly, you can assign one of your choosing to it via the keyboard shortcuts panel in preferences. There's no exact windows equivalent of maximize the window, so that it takes up the whole screen, because even the zoom option only makes the window a little larger, but from what I've been told, it still doesn't cover the entire viewing area, though it does make things a bit larger for those who can't see it clearly, or if you have a bunch of windows open, and your sighted helper can't tell which one you're on, it does serve to point out where you are. Especially if you have a lot of windows open, it can be difficult to pinpoint which one you're currently using sometimes. hth. From va3ets2000 at me.com Thu Feb 16 06:45:42 2012 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 01:45:42 -0500 Subject: wifi sync In-Reply-To: <0C34B24C-B2EC-4A46-B0A5-B941807E6450@gmail.com> References: <0C34B24C-B2EC-4A46-B0A5-B941807E6450@gmail.com> Message-ID: <10D152CE-189B-458C-954F-7E719BFECD0D@me.com> Yeah, I don't get it either. I can never seem to get Wifi sync to work. . . I have never been able to get it to work, it always says that my Mac isn't available. On Feb 16, 2012, at 1:26 AM, william lomas wrote: > hi all, does wifis ync work when the iphone 4 is connected to the wall outlet? > for me it only found the mac when plugged in to the mac itself via wifi what is the point in this? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 08:53:06 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:53:06 +1100 Subject: Maxamising windows in text edit In-Reply-To: References: <-7496823556333320093@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <024a01ccec88$6ab5f9c0$4021ed40$@com> I'm trying to make the text edit larger so The sighted person who is working with me can see what I am doing in Text edit. That's why I'm asking the question. Where do you find the window menu so I can zoom it up? Margaret -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Travis Siegel Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 6:26 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Maxamising windows in text edit I'm not sure what you mean by maximize the window. What are you trying to accomplish? If you want text edit to be the only item vissible on the screen, then use hide others (in the text edit menu, usually command-shift-h) This should move all other running applications out of the viewing area, leaving just text edit in the foreground. I'm told this doesn't always work, but when it does, it frees the screen of clutter, making it easier for sighted folks to help you find things on the screen. If you're trying to make the window as large as possible, then use the zoom option it's available under the window menu, though it doesn't have a keystroke tied to it by default, though if it's something you use regularly, you can assign one of your choosing to it via the keyboard shortcuts panel in preferences. There's no exact windows equivalent of maximize the window, so that it takes up the whole screen, because even the zoom option only makes the window a little larger, but from what I've been told, it still doesn't cover the entire viewing area, though it does make things a bit larger for those who can't see it clearly, or if you have a bunch of windows open, and your sighted helper can't tell which one you're on, it does serve to point out where you are. Especially if you have a lot of windows open, it can be difficult to pinpoint which one you're currently using sometimes. hth. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From christoap at sky.com Thu Feb 16 08:56:19 2012 From: christoap at sky.com (Christo Thiardt) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:56:19 +0000 Subject: Safari questions In-Reply-To: References: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> <721C37F6-912A-4521-A1A2-6F13F842DB64@gmail.com> <9B60F39F52C142D599A3498BDF664906@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <9984704F-0373-4886-A574-7FEAF389B9CA@mac.com> Message-ID: <99388B53-0A36-46A3-8C20-8F8DAA44B0D5@sky.com> Hello I entirely agree with Gordon. As a complete novice with Mac and other Apple products: Esther has been a God sent! Thank you Esther and all ? Christo On 15 Feb 2012, at 19:15, Gordon Keen wrote: > Isn't she wonderful? > > > I've learnt so much from Esther's helpful posts, it's a pity there's not a BAFTA, Golden Globe or Oscar we can award her. > > Heartfelt thanks > > G > > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. > On 15 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others, >> >> I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for both current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A nice feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an item to include category. For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a web page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their "Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results for links. If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead for the second match. By then, there are only a few matches on the menu, and I can arrow down to the match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space to be taken to my selection. Remember that item chooser menu only navigates you to an element. If there's a link or button that you're trying to activate yo > u >> still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press. If you decide to amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start typing again. Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help find things. >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 08:58:44 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:58:44 -0600 Subject: Maxamising windows in text edit In-Reply-To: <024a01ccec88$6ab5f9c0$4021ed40$@com> References: <-7496823556333320093@unknownmsgid> <024a01ccec88$6ab5f9c0$4021ed40$@com> Message-ID: V o m takes you into apple menu arrow right and there it will be. Well after going over past apple, text edit, file, edit, view etc. Then go down that sub list and it will be there. On Feb 16, 2012, at 2:53 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > I'm trying to make the text edit larger so The sighted person who is working > with me can see what I am doing in Text edit. That's why I'm asking the > question. > Where do you find the window menu so I can zoom it up? > > Margaret > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Travis Siegel > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 6:26 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Maxamising windows in text edit > > I'm not sure what you mean by maximize the window. What are you > trying to accomplish? > If you want text edit to be the only item vissible on the screen, > then use hide others (in the text edit menu, usually command-shift-h) > This should move all other running applications out of the viewing > area, leaving just text edit in the foreground. I'm told this > doesn't always work, but when it does, it frees the screen of > clutter, making it easier for sighted folks to help you find things > on the screen. > If you're trying to make the window as large as possible, then use > the zoom option it's available under the window menu, though it > doesn't have a keystroke tied to it by default, though if it's > something you use regularly, you can assign one of your choosing to > it via the keyboard shortcuts panel in preferences. There's no exact > windows equivalent of maximize the window, so that it takes up the > whole screen, because even the zoom option only makes the window a > little larger, but from what I've been told, it still doesn't cover > the entire viewing area, though it does make things a bit larger for > those who can't see it clearly, or if you have a bunch of windows > open, and your sighted helper can't tell which one you're on, it does > serve to point out where you are. > Especially if you have a lot of windows open, it can be difficult to > pinpoint which one you're currently using sometimes. > hth. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 08:59:36 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:59:36 -0600 Subject: Safari questions In-Reply-To: <99388B53-0A36-46A3-8C20-8F8DAA44B0D5@sky.com> References: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> <721C37F6-912A-4521-A1A2-6F13F842DB64@gmail.com> <9B60F39F52C142D599A3498BDF664906@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <9984704F-0373-4886-A574-7FEAF389B9CA@mac.com> <99388B53-0A36-46A3-8C20-8F8DAA44B0D5@sky.com> Message-ID: Even for those who aren't novices she is. On Feb 16, 2012, at 2:56 AM, Christo Thiardt wrote: > Hello > > I entirely agree with Gordon. > > As a complete novice with Mac and other Apple products: Esther has been a God sent! > > Thank you Esther and all ? > > Christo > > > On 15 Feb 2012, at 19:15, Gordon Keen wrote: > >> Isn't she wonderful? >> >> >> I've learnt so much from Esther's helpful posts, it's a pity there's not a BAFTA, Golden Globe or Oscar we can award her. >> >> Heartfelt thanks >> >> G >> >> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. >> On 15 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others, >>> >>> I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for both current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A nice feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an item to include category. For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a web page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their "Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results for links. If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead for the second match. By then, there are only a few matches on the menu, and I can arrow down to the match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space to be taken to my selection. Remember that item chooser menu only navigates you to an element. If there's a link or button that you're trying to activate yo >> u >>> still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press. If you decide to amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start typing again. Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help find things. >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Thu Feb 16 16:51:33 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:51:33 -0800 Subject: skype Message-ID: HI there. Just wondering if anyone knows how to dial a number with skype then enter another number if wanting to enter a chat room? I can dial the original number but don't get how to do another number after that? Thanks. Lovette From weavermicha at googlemail.com Thu Feb 16 18:53:14 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:53:14 +0000 Subject: voice call problem in skype Message-ID: <4f3d4ce6.879acc0a.3868.74d3@mx.google.com> i don't know if there is a problem with my mac or anything but i made a call to someone this morning and it sounded like the person took the call but when i kept saying anything like "hello" i didn't hear the person at the other end. my speech on the mac isn't affected nor any other sounds. i heard the blip so i am assuming my call connected unless of course it was rejected. i had the headset for my i-phone plugged into the earphone socket of the macbook. i would have thought that if the call had been answered i would have heard the person at the other end. i can't understand if it is a problem with the i-phone headset i plugged into the mac, the mac itself, or a problem at the other end. From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Thu Feb 16 18:42:15 2012 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:42:15 +0000 Subject: voice call problem in skype In-Reply-To: <4f3d4ce6.879acc0a.3868.74d3@mx.google.com> References: <4f3d4ce6.879acc0a.3868.74d3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Michael. Hs this only happened with the one person? If so, it would be more than likely their end. If not, then it could be that the call wasn't answered, it was rejected, or the connection could've been weak, as you say that no other sounds were affected. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 16 Feb 2012, at 18:53, michael weaver wrote: > i don't know if there is a problem with my mac or anything but i made a call to someone this morning and it sounded like the person took the call but when i kept saying anything like "hello" i didn't hear the person at the other end. > my speech on the mac isn't affected nor any other sounds. > i heard the blip so i am assuming my call connected unless of course it was rejected. > i had the headset for my i-phone plugged into the earphone socket of the macbook. > i would have thought that if the call had been answered i would have heard the person at the other end. > i can't understand if it is a problem with the i-phone headset i plugged into the mac, the mac itself, or a problem at the other end. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 18:53:33 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:53:33 -0800 Subject: voice call problem in skype In-Reply-To: <4f3d4ce6.879acc0a.3868.74d3@mx.google.com> References: <4f3d4ce6.879acc0a.3868.74d3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <44D848A9-FA55-48FA-A6CE-7E04994E4667@gmail.com> Check your output to see if it has not changed. Sometimes skype loves to play games on that. Also check your input under the prefs in skype to see if that has not changed as well. and then do a echo123 test to see that all is well. Take care. Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening On Feb 16, 2012, at 10:53 AM, michael weaver wrote: > i don't know if there is a problem with my mac or anything but i made a call to someone this morning and it sounded like the person took the call but when i kept saying anything like "hello" i didn't hear the person at the other end. > my speech on the mac isn't affected nor any other sounds. > i heard the blip so i am assuming my call connected unless of course it was rejected. > i had the headset for my i-phone plugged into the earphone socket of the macbook. > i would have thought that if the call had been answered i would have heard the person at the other end. > i can't understand if it is a problem with the i-phone headset i plugged into the mac, the mac itself, or a problem at the other end. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Thu Feb 16 19:54:06 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:54:06 +0000 Subject: wifi sync In-Reply-To: <0C34B24C-B2EC-4A46-B0A5-B941807E6450@gmail.com> References: <0C34B24C-B2EC-4A46-B0A5-B941807E6450@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F3D5EDE.5030706@techno-chat.net> Agreed, can't get it to work at all even when plugged into my dock. On 16/02/2012 06:26, william lomas wrote: > hi all, does wifis ync work when the iphone 4 is connected to the wall outlet? > for me it only found the mac when plugged in to the mac itself via wifi what is the point in this? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From fitzcl at centurylink.net Thu Feb 16 22:35:05 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:35:05 -0800 Subject: IPhone issue Message-ID: <003401ccecfb$3b5fc3e0$b21f4ba0$@net> When I answer my IPhone, the speech part of VO starts babbling and I can't hear the person speaking. How do I change this? Catherine Golding Olympia, Washington From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 22:36:36 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:36:36 -0800 Subject: showing all characters in bean? Message-ID: Hello. I need to see if some chars were replaced correctly. I'm using bean to do this. Is there a way to show all chars so I can make sure I replaced ^b with ^m? thanks. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 22:37:22 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:37:22 -0800 Subject: wifi sync In-Reply-To: <10D152CE-189B-458C-954F-7E719BFECD0D@me.com> References: <0C34B24C-B2EC-4A46-B0A5-B941807E6450@gmail.com> <10D152CE-189B-458C-954F-7E719BFECD0D@me.com> Message-ID: Try turning on iTunes as you need to get iTunes running to work. it won't just happen as far as I've found out. Take care. Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Yeah, I don't get it either. I can never seem to get Wifi sync to work. . . I have never been able to get it to work, it always says that my Mac isn't available. > On Feb 16, 2012, at 1:26 AM, william lomas wrote: > >> hi all, does wifis ync work when the iphone 4 is connected to the wall outlet? >> for me it only found the mac when plugged in to the mac itself via wifi what is the point in this? >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From 1smartdog at cox.net Fri Feb 17 01:05:11 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:05:11 -0600 Subject: IPhone issue References: <003401ccecfb$3b5fc3e0$b21f4ba0$@net> Message-ID: <1F5933E60C6142E49E38D03876DB44D9@karen796b6a58c> There may be a feature of which I am not aware but a two-finger single tap shuts VO up. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine G" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:35 PM Subject: IPhone issue > When I answer my IPhone, the speech part of VO starts babbling and I can't > hear the person speaking. How do I change this? > > > > Catherine Golding > > Olympia, Washington > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 01:42:37 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:42:37 -0800 Subject: IPhone issue In-Reply-To: <1F5933E60C6142E49E38D03876DB44D9@karen796b6a58c> References: <003401ccecfb$3b5fc3e0$b21f4ba0$@net> <1F5933E60C6142E49E38D03876DB44D9@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: You could do that, or you can do a 3 finger double tap to mute speech. Take care all. On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:05 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > There may be a feature of which I am not aware but a two-finger single tap shuts VO up. > > Karen > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine G" > To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:35 PM > Subject: IPhone issue > > >> When I answer my IPhone, the speech part of VO starts babbling and I can't >> hear the person speaking. How do I change this? >> >> >> >> Catherine Golding >> >> Olympia, Washington >> >> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From fitzcl at centurylink.net Fri Feb 17 03:02:30 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:02:30 -0800 Subject: Icloud Message-ID: <005801cced20$96f31070$c4d93150$@net> I changed the ID and pass word on my Apple products, but ICloud doesn't seem to get it. Although it acknowledges my new one, it still tells me I can't connect with my old one. What's up? Catherine Golding Olympia, Washington From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 03:07:17 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:07:17 -0800 Subject: Missing apps, missing Safari warnings, and more | Macworld Message-ID: some tidbits that might help someone. Take care. http://www.macworld.com/article/165394/2012/02/missing_apps_missing_safari_warnings_and_more.html#lsrc.rss_howto From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 04:04:50 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:04:50 +1100 Subject: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream? Message-ID: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> Hi. the subject line says it all. was wondering if there is an accessible app to listen to and record internet radio? I use klango in windows but as far as i can tell from google there isn't a mac version of klango yet. so is there something mainstream? something i can use to search for stations and play and record the stream would be really good. speaking of which, is there a way to see radio streams in itunes via country? e.g. australian streams etc? thanks. Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 05:06:24 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:06:24 -0800 Subject: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream? In-Reply-To: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> References: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think in iTunes radio it is only by genre. Not country. I could be wrong though as I'm new to it myself. Take care. On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > Hi. the subject line says it all. was wondering if there is an accessible app to listen to and record internet radio? I use klango in windows but as far as i can tell from google there isn't a mac version of klango yet. so is there something mainstream? something i can use to search for stations and play and record the stream would be really good. speaking of which, is there a way to see radio streams in itunes via country? e.g. australian streams etc? > > thanks. > > Maria Chapman > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > will get you fb as well as email > skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening From margaretebooth at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 07:33:10 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:33:10 +1100 Subject: Safari questions In-Reply-To: <99388B53-0A36-46A3-8C20-8F8DAA44B0D5@sky.com> References: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> <721C37F6-912A-4521-A1A2-6F13F842DB64@gmail.com> <9B60F39F52C142D599A3498BDF664906@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <9984704F-0373-4886-A574-7FEAF389B9CA@mac.com> <99388B53-0A36-46A3-8C20-8F8DAA44B0D5@sky.com> Message-ID: <02e801cced46$685de7a0$3919b6e0$@com> I happen to agree with you all. Esther has been a great help to me as well as others on this list like Sarah. I am very grateful that everyone is patient and answers all of my questions. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christo Thiardt Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 7:56 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Safari questions Hello I entirely agree with Gordon. As a complete novice with Mac and other Apple products: Esther has been a God sent! Thank you Esther and all . Christo On 15 Feb 2012, at 19:15, Gordon Keen wrote: > Isn't she wonderful? > > > I've learnt so much from Esther's helpful posts, it's a pity there's not a BAFTA, Golden Globe or Oscar we can award her. > > Heartfelt thanks > > G > > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. > On 15 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others, >> >> I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for both current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A nice feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an item to include category. For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a web page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their "Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results for links. If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead for the second match. By then, there are only a few matches on the menu, and I can arrow down to the match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space to be taken to my selection. Remember that item chooser menu only navigates you to an element. If there's a link or button that you're trying to activate yo > u >> still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press. If you decide to amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start typing again. Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help find things. >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From terry.clasper at btinternet.com Fri Feb 17 09:20:54 2012 From: terry.clasper at btinternet.com (Terry Clasper) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:20:54 -0000 Subject: IPhone issue In-Reply-To: <003401ccecfb$3b5fc3e0$b21f4ba0$@net> References: <003401ccecfb$3b5fc3e0$b21f4ba0$@net> Message-ID: <010801cced55$7353b310$59fb1930$@clasper@btinternet.com> Hi the best way to stop this is to make sure the triple tap home is set to turn VO on and off, then when you start a call and the speech become irritating just triple tap the home button to toggle VO off, do the call then triple tap again to turn it back on. I do this regularly and it works just fine! -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine G Sent: 16 February 2012 22:35 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: IPhone issue When I answer my IPhone, the speech part of VO starts babbling and I can't hear the person speaking. How do I change this? Catherine Golding Olympia, Washington <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 09:48:20 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 03:48:20 -0600 Subject: Safari questions In-Reply-To: <02e801cced46$685de7a0$3919b6e0$@com> References: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> <721C37F6-912A-4521-A1A2-6F13F842DB64@gmail.com> <9B60F39F52C142D599A3498BDF664906@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <9984704F-0373-4886-A574-7FEAF389B9CA@mac.com> <99388B53-0A36-46A3-8C20-8F8DAA44B0D5@sky.com> <02e801cced46$685de7a0$3919b6e0$@com> Message-ID: <4A2C5BDE-EA28-4C2B-AB93-73C8D63EB241@gmail.com> Well most of us have been in the same place, and will be so again at some point if we are all honest with ourselves. Might be matters of different apps and problems, but we've all been where you are. On Feb 17, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > I happen to agree with you all. Esther has been a great help to me as well > as others on this list like Sarah. I am very grateful that everyone is > patient and answers all of my questions. > > Margaret > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christo Thiardt > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 7:56 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Safari questions > > Hello > > I entirely agree with Gordon. > > As a complete novice with Mac and other Apple products: Esther has been a > God sent! > > Thank you Esther and all . > > Christo > > > On 15 Feb 2012, at 19:15, Gordon Keen wrote: > >> Isn't she wonderful? >> >> >> I've learnt so much from Esther's helpful posts, it's a pity there's not a > BAFTA, Golden Globe or Oscar we can award her. >> >> Heartfelt thanks >> >> G >> >> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. >> On 15 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others, >>> >>> I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for > both current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A > nice feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an > item to include category. For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a > web page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their > "Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then > quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match > those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results > for links. If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead > for the second match. By then, there are only a few matches on the menu, > and I can arrow down to the match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space > to be taken to my selection. Remember that item chooser menu only navigates > you to an element. If there's a link or button that you're trying to > activate yo >> u >>> still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press. If you decide > to amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start > typing again. Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help > find things. >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Fri Feb 17 12:17:15 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:17:15 +0000 Subject: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream? In-Reply-To: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> References: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F3E454B.9020607@techno-chat.net> I wonder the same. Any equivalents to Tapin Radio out there? This is an excellent internet radio for the other OS, but I don't think a mac version exists. On 17/02/2012 04:04, Maria Chapman wrote: > Hi. the subject line says it all. was wondering if there is an accessible app to listen to and record internet radio? I use klango in windows but as far as i can tell from google there isn't a mac version of klango yet. so is there something mainstream? something i can use to search for stations and play and record the stream would be really good. speaking of which, is there a way to see radio streams in itunes via country? e.g. australian streams etc? > > thanks. > > Maria Chapman > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > will get you fb as well as email > skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Fri Feb 17 12:18:03 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:18:03 +0000 Subject: wifi sync In-Reply-To: References: <0C34B24C-B2EC-4A46-B0A5-B941807E6450@gmail.com> <10D152CE-189B-458C-954F-7E719BFECD0D@me.com> Message-ID: <4F3E457B.6050202@techno-chat.net> That's what I do, and it doesn't work. On 16/02/2012 22:37, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Try turning on iTunes as you need to get iTunes running to work. it won't just happen as far as I've found out. > > Take care. > Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. > Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> Yeah, I don't get it either. I can never seem to get Wifi sync to work. . . I have never been able to get it to work, it always says that my Mac isn't available. >> On Feb 16, 2012, at 1:26 AM, william lomas wrote: >> >>> hi all, does wifis ync work when the iphone 4 is connected to the wall outlet? >>> for me it only found the mac when plugged in to the mac itself via wifi what is the point in this? >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Feb 17 13:35:28 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:35:28 +0000 Subject: Voice Mail on the iPhone Message-ID: <8C46DBF8-DC8C-431F-89E2-8E45B40D6193@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I have a couple of questions about using Voice Mail on my iPhone running IOS 5.0.1. First how do I set the phone number which will be called when I press the Voice Mail button in the phone app? I have looked at the iPhone settings and cannot find any which will let me enter the Voice Mail phone number which is 443 for my network. Second how can I use the phone keypad with VoiceOver active when retrieving a Voice Mail item? If I use the number keypad to dial 443 I can get to my Voice Mail. However I then have to press 1 on the keypad to open my Voice Mail. Alas I cannot hear the keypad using VoiceOver so cannot enter 1. If I plug in some headphones this solves the above problem but what if I do not have any headphones to hand? Many thanks for any tips. Paul Hopewell From terry.clasper at btinternet.com Fri Feb 17 13:43:56 2012 From: terry.clasper at btinternet.com (Terry Clasper) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:43:56 -0000 Subject: Voice Mail on the iPhone In-Reply-To: <8C46DBF8-DC8C-431F-89E2-8E45B40D6193@hopewell.org.uk> References: <8C46DBF8-DC8C-431F-89E2-8E45B40D6193@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <003c01cced7a$325b50a0$9711f1e0$@clasper@btinternet.com> HI. I think the answer to the first question is that if you activate the services for your provider within settings, the voicemail should configure itself. Second, the only way to use the keypad to interact with the system once your in there is to listen via headphones. This way voiceover lets you interact with the keypad in the expected way. To my knowledge you cant do this without headphone but I'm sure if I'm wrong someone more knowledgeable will contribute. Thanks a lot. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell Sent: 17 February 2012 13:35 To: mac-access Subject: Voice Mail on the iPhone Hello, I have a couple of questions about using Voice Mail on my iPhone running IOS 5.0.1. First how do I set the phone number which will be called when I press the Voice Mail button in the phone app? I have looked at the iPhone settings and cannot find any which will let me enter the Voice Mail phone number which is 443 for my network. Second how can I use the phone keypad with VoiceOver active when retrieving a Voice Mail item? If I use the number keypad to dial 443 I can get to my Voice Mail. However I then have to press 1 on the keypad to open my Voice Mail. Alas I cannot hear the keypad using VoiceOver so cannot enter 1. If I plug in some headphones this solves the above problem but what if I do not have any headphones to hand? Many thanks for any tips. Paul Hopewell <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From khwicca at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 16:05:12 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:05:12 -0500 Subject: Safari questions In-Reply-To: <4A2C5BDE-EA28-4C2B-AB93-73C8D63EB241@gmail.com> References: <163B9D9D-F837-4999-ADA1-091D165FFA8D@gmail.com> <721C37F6-912A-4521-A1A2-6F13F842DB64@gmail.com> <9B60F39F52C142D599A3498BDF664906@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <9984704F-0373-4886-A574-7FEAF389B9CA@mac.com> <99388B53-0A36-46A3-8C20-8F8DAA44B0D5@sky.com> <02e801cced46$685de7a0$3919b6e0$@com> <4A2C5BDE-EA28-4C2B-AB93-73C8D63EB241@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0B5F9C6F-98DB-434A-8126-9B2AAD9F3221@gmail.com> To all, I thank you so very much for all your help. I am indeed thankful, so can I ask some more questions? (grin) To you, Esther, I agree with all who have said that your knowledge and willingness to share it are absolutely phenomenal. Thank you and thank you all. kristeen On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: > Well most of us have been in the same place, and will be so again at some point if we are all honest with ourselves. Might be matters of different apps and problems, but we've all been where you are. > On Feb 17, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > >> I happen to agree with you all. Esther has been a great help to me as well >> as others on this list like Sarah. I am very grateful that everyone is >> patient and answers all of my questions. >> >> Margaret >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christo Thiardt >> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 7:56 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Safari questions >> >> Hello >> >> I entirely agree with Gordon. >> >> As a complete novice with Mac and other Apple products: Esther has been a >> God sent! >> >> Thank you Esther and all . >> >> Christo >> >> >> On 15 Feb 2012, at 19:15, Gordon Keen wrote: >> >>> Isn't she wonderful? >>> >>> >>> I've learnt so much from Esther's helpful posts, it's a pity there's not a >> BAFTA, Golden Globe or Oscar we can award her. >>> >>> Heartfelt thanks >>> >>> G >>> >>> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. >>> On 15 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others, >>>> >>>> I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for >> both current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A >> nice feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an >> item to include category. For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a >> web page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their >> "Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then >> quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match >> those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results >> for links. If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead >> for the second match. By then, there are only a few matches on the menu, >> and I can arrow down to the match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space >> to be taken to my selection. Remember that item chooser menu only navigates >> you to an element. If there's a link or button that you're trying to >> activate yo >>> u >>>> still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press. If you decide >> to amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start >> typing again. Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help >> find things. >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From fitzcl at centurylink.net Fri Feb 17 16:09:18 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:09:18 -0800 Subject: Searching in app store Message-ID: <000d01cced8e$817502d0$845f0870$@net> How do I search for an item in the App store? I know how on the IPhone, but not the Mac. From fitzcl at centurylink.net Fri Feb 17 16:25:34 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:25:34 -0800 Subject: Searching in ap store Message-ID: <001a01cced90$c7371090$55a531b0$@net> I found it. From khwicca at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 17:45:14 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:45:14 -0500 Subject: Browser choices Message-ID: <9B700ACA-451C-472B-8528-F2EC06B0030D@gmail.com> Do any of you use a browser other than Safari? If so, do you prefer the browser you chose over Safari and what is that browser? Kriateen From LYEWCHAN at TELUS.NET Fri Feb 17 19:20:09 2012 From: LYEWCHAN at TELUS.NET (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:20:09 -0800 Subject: Skype Message-ID: <1C44EE59-3484-4675-928A-DB3228100936@TELUS.NET> Is there anywehre to go for tips on using skype as a blind mac user? THanks. Lovette From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Fri Feb 17 21:16:29 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 21:16:29 +0000 Subject: Searching for Mail in time machine backups Message-ID: <66C3B3A8-058C-450D-9DE2-DC751467380B@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I need to retrieve an Apple Mail item from a specific person. I know this item is somewhere in Apple Mail in my time machine backups. Is there any way I can quickly find it perhaps by spotlight or mail search? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 22:25:34 2012 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:25:34 +0100 Subject: Browser choices In-Reply-To: <9B700ACA-451C-472B-8528-F2EC06B0030D@gmail.com> References: <9B700ACA-451C-472B-8528-F2EC06B0030D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1EDDCE45-4D9B-4B6D-8B2E-EAA41545D040@gmail.com> Hi. I use both safari, webkit and google chrome. I do not prefer any of these. But sometimes does safari a good job and other times google chrome. If you have a javabased page without frames google chrome often will do better than the others. I am looking forward to see if firefox will be fully accessible, if so I am sure, I will love to use that browser. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 17, 2012 kl. 6:45 PM skrev Kristeen Hughes: > Do any of you use a browser other than Safari? If so, do you prefer the browser you chose over Safari and what is that browser? > > Kriateen > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Feb 17 22:39:36 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:39:36 -1000 Subject: Searching for Mail in time machine backups In-Reply-To: <66C3B3A8-058C-450D-9DE2-DC751467380B@hopewell.org.uk> References: <66C3B3A8-058C-450D-9DE2-DC751467380B@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <9A8F58BA-8159-4C50-9721-51E9565CCCE9@mac.com> Hi Paul, I got the following to work, but VoiceOver went silent on me, and I had to toggle it off and on. I'm only just getting used to Mail in Lion. 1. Press Command-Option-F to go the search bar in the Mail Message viewer. 2. Type in the name of the person who has sent you mail, e.g. I typed "Paul Hopewell". 3. VO-Down arrow. VoiceOver may become sluggish here, depending on the size and contents of your mailbox. VoiceOver should say, first, "People", then "Paul Hopewell" and your email address. 4. Navigate to the messages table. The "From:" column should be populated with the name you typed in. As I said, VoiceOver stopped talking once for me when I did this. I had to toggle it off and on. When I went back to the search field (with Command-Option-F), it announced, "From Paul Hopewell menu button". HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I need to retrieve an Apple Mail item from a specific person. I know this item is somewhere in Apple Mail in my time machine backups. Is there any way I can quickly find it perhaps by spotlight or mail search? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell From n0oxy at charter.net Sat Feb 18 00:29:22 2012 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:29:22 -0600 Subject: Browser choices In-Reply-To: <9B700ACA-451C-472B-8528-F2EC06B0030D@gmail.com> References: <9B700ACA-451C-472B-8528-F2EC06B0030D@gmail.com> Message-ID: I use chrome at times, I think it's faster than safari though there are still a few issues with it with voiceover, apparently firefox access is also in the works. On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > Do any of you use a browser other than Safari? If so, do you prefer the browser you chose over Safari and what is that browser? > > Kriateen > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 18 02:20:42 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:20:42 -0800 Subject: wifi sync In-Reply-To: <4F3E457B.6050202@techno-chat.net> References: <0C34B24C-B2EC-4A46-B0A5-B941807E6450@gmail.com> <10D152CE-189B-458C-954F-7E719BFECD0D@me.com> <4F3E457B.6050202@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <10995233-67D6-47EA-9A72-F7DB9790C0E4@gmail.com> Odd? I'll be playing with it today in a few hours so will see if I can get it to work. Tc. On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:18 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > That's what I do, and it doesn't work. > > On 16/02/2012 22:37, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> Try turning on iTunes as you need to get iTunes running to work. it won't just happen as far as I've found out. >> >> Take care. >> Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. >> Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening >> >> On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> >>> Yeah, I don't get it either. I can never seem to get Wifi sync to work. . . I have never been able to get it to work, it always says that my Mac isn't available. >>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 1:26 AM, william lomas wrote: >>> >>>> hi all, does wifis ync work when the iphone 4 is connected to the wall outlet? >>>> for me it only found the mac when plugged in to the mac itself via wifi what is the point in this? >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Sat Feb 18 02:15:19 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 21:15:19 -0500 Subject: Browser choices In-Reply-To: References: <9B700ACA-451C-472B-8528-F2EC06B0030D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <246F3C5B-FFA4-4632-B0C3-BF9AF752789D@me.com> I primarily use Webkit, which is essentially Safari that gets updated nightly. This means you get some cutting edge fixes and bleeding-edge bugs. It's available at: www.webkit.org. I sometimes use Google Chrome, available at: https://www.google.com/chrome/index.html?hl=en&brand=CHMA&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-bk&utm_medium=ha&installdataindex=homepagepromo There is also a screen-reading extension called "ChromeVox" available for Chrome. It works independently of VO inside the Chrome browser. It is still early indevelopment so YMMV. You can get it here: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn As Mike mentioned, Mozilla does seem to be moving forward on a VO accessible version of Firefox. Hooray! Some details can be found at Marco's Accessibility Blog at: http://www.marcozehe.de/2012/01/17/accessible-firefox-on-mac-os-x-things-are-ramping-up/ As I understand things, Safari, Webkit & Chrome are all built from the same code base. Firefox is not and would thus be the first true alternative accessible browser available for OS X. Let's hope it really happens! Bryan On Feb 17, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > voiceover, apparently firefox access is also in the works. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 18 05:04:51 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 21:04:51 -0800 Subject: having trouble saving prefs in a new install of lion Message-ID: <7BA6B5D6-02A8-481F-AD15-2FF450DAC3A8@gmail.com> Hello to all. I had to reformat the drive and reinstall lion. I'm having some issues. 1. vo is not starting at start up. 2. my prefs are not saving during reboots. 3. I cannot tab between buttons in system prefs. Can anyone shed some light on this? I've checked my permit ions and they all look fine. I have read right access to everything. From support at mac-access.net Sat Feb 18 12:30:51 2012 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon, Lynne & Tracy) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:30:51 +0000 Subject: Apologies Message-ID: <0204B0ED-8D78-4BE0-905E-7585B8F5F4BA@mac-access.net> Hello everybody Those of you awaiting support, we sincerely apologise. We have been away from home out of necessity all week and only just got back about 6 hours ago. I am trying to clear the backlog now. Lynne From va3ets2000 at me.com Sat Feb 18 12:20:36 2012 From: va3ets2000 at me.com (Dan Eickmeier) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:20:36 -0500 Subject: wifi sync In-Reply-To: <10995233-67D6-47EA-9A72-F7DB9790C0E4@gmail.com> References: <0C34B24C-B2EC-4A46-B0A5-B941807E6450@gmail.com> <10D152CE-189B-458C-954F-7E719BFECD0D@me.com> <4F3E457B.6050202@techno-chat.net> <10995233-67D6-47EA-9A72-F7DB9790C0E4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <469141F1-8FB1-4410-A1C3-3A9A6D6BC784@me.com> even with iTUnes opened, I'm finding it doesn't work. i've never actually seen it work to tell you the truth actually. If there's some trick to get it to consistently, would love to know. On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Odd? I'll be playing with it today in a few hours so will see if I can get it to work. > > Tc. > On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:18 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> That's what I do, and it doesn't work. >> >> On 16/02/2012 22:37, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> Try turning on iTunes as you need to get iTunes running to work. it won't just happen as far as I've found out. >>> >>> Take care. >>> Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. >>> Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening >>> >>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, I don't get it either. I can never seem to get Wifi sync to work. . . I have never been able to get it to work, it always says that my Mac isn't available. >>>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 1:26 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>> >>>>> hi all, does wifis ync work when the iphone 4 is connected to the wall outlet? >>>>> for me it only found the mac when plugged in to the mac itself via wifi what is the point in this? >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Feb 18 13:34:34 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:34:34 +0000 Subject: wifi sync In-Reply-To: <469141F1-8FB1-4410-A1C3-3A9A6D6BC784@me.com> References: <0C34B24C-B2EC-4A46-B0A5-B941807E6450@gmail.com> <10D152CE-189B-458C-954F-7E719BFECD0D@me.com> <4F3E457B.6050202@techno-chat.net> <10995233-67D6-47EA-9A72-F7DB9790C0E4@gmail.com> <469141F1-8FB1-4410-A1C3-3A9A6D6BC784@me.com> Message-ID: Hi folks, It worked for me consistently until IOS 5.0.1. Even with iTunes open and the Wi-Fi option selected,. TC :) J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 18 Feb 2012, at 12:20, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > even with iTUnes opened, I'm finding it doesn't work. i've never actually seen it work to tell you the truth actually. If there's some trick to get it to consistently, would love to know. > On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Odd? I'll be playing with it today in a few hours so will see if I can get it to work. >> >> Tc. >> On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:18 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >>> That's what I do, and it doesn't work. >>> >>> On 16/02/2012 22:37, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> Try turning on iTunes as you need to get iTunes running to work. it won't just happen as far as I've found out. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. >>>> Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening >>>> >>>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, I don't get it either. I can never seem to get Wifi sync to work. . . I have never been able to get it to work, it always says that my Mac isn't available. >>>>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 1:26 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hi all, does wifis ync work when the iphone 4 is connected to the wall outlet? >>>>>> for me it only found the mac when plugged in to the mac itself via wifi what is the point in this? >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From blindworrell at yahoo.com Sat Feb 18 15:53:39 2012 From: blindworrell at yahoo.com (Ed Worrell) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:53:39 -0700 Subject: A new accessible social networking app called Status Report Message-ID: <4DA390F1-3D78-4885-98BC-3C44045AD21B@yahoo.com> Hello LIsters. I have been working with an app developer to make his Social networking app accessible. The app is called Status Report. Here is the direct link to it in the app store. http://itunes.apple.com/ye/app/status-report/id474219737?mt=8 The app interface is very simple. The app was made only to update your status and to look at, like. and comment on your friends status messages. It will not allow you to send direct messages to your friends, or allow you to chat with them, but it is a great app and Anders the developer should be commended for his quick turn around on this app. He is very quick to respond and had many if not all of the bugs with voiceover fixed with in a couple of hours of talking to him. To refresh the page and see new posts by your friends just find the first status on the main page and double tap and drag down and this will refresh your feed, he even made it so voiceover tells you that it is updateing and when it has finished updateing. This is a simple and great app that should not be overlooked. He is planning to add more social networking sites in future updates. Give it a shot Thanks ED From blindworrell at yahoo.com Sat Feb 18 16:22:59 2012 From: blindworrell at yahoo.com (Ed Worrell) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:22:59 -0700 Subject: A new accessible social networking app called Status Report In-Reply-To: <4DA390F1-3D78-4885-98BC-3C44045AD21B@yahoo.com> References: <4DA390F1-3D78-4885-98BC-3C44045AD21B@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00B0DE38-7164-4178-904F-977587124348@yahoo.com> HEllo listers I forgot to say what sites this app works with. It works with Facebook, Twitter, Foursquare,and Instagram. Anders is planning to add more social sites in a future update, enjoy. Ed From mike at busboom.at Sat Feb 18 17:00:22 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Mike Busboom) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:00:22 +0100 Subject: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone? In-Reply-To: <1D020FA7-AFB5-4970-A931-AE44FF985FDF@mac.com> References: <46b90df4-e6e7-c88b-9928-95a0ea9c8728@me.com> <7CB59CDE66BE44A88D1C4E2EBB057166@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <1D020FA7-AFB5-4970-A931-AE44FF985FDF@mac.com> Message-ID: Thank you very much, Esther, for the heads up. I was still able to take advantage of the Valentine's Day offer. I look forward to learning how to use the App. Unfortunately, I got the German version which, by the way, is called "Wohin." It will be weird listening to prompts in German as the App names points of interest in the US with German pronunciation. :) Anyway, thanks so much for the recommendation. Mike On 14,Feb,2012, at 9:47 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Mike, > > If you haven't yet purchased FutureTap's "Where To? -- Discover your next destination" app, it's on sale now for Valentine's Day. This will supply points of interests for all your destinations in Europe and the US, sorted by distance from your current location (or a location or address that you specify -- which can be selected from your Address Book). Results can be sent to GPS apps that can give turn by turn instructions (Navigon, TomTom, MotionX GPS Drive, Sygic, or the Maps app), or you can use the updating direction and distance feature in the app to monitor your travel towards a POI. > > ? "Where To? -- Discover your next destination" ($0.99, normally $2.99) by FutureTap: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sat Feb 18 17:20:00 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:20:00 -1000 Subject: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone? In-Reply-To: References: <46b90df4-e6e7-c88b-9928-95a0ea9c8728@me.com> <7CB59CDE66BE44A88D1C4E2EBB057166@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <1D020FA7-AFB5-4970-A931-AE44FF985FDF@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, You can change to language that "Where To?" uses in Settings. From the main "Where To?" screen that shows when you launch, double tap the "Settings" button in the top right corner. On the "Settings" page, flick right to "Categories: System Language" and double tap. On the "Categories" page, flick right to "English" and double tap to select. Then double tap the "Settings, back button" in the top left corner to leave the "Categories" page and return to "Settings". In the "Settings" page, double tap the "Done" button in the top right corner of the screen. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 18, 2012, at 7:00 AM, Mike Busboom wrote: > Thank you very much, Esther, for the heads up. I was still able to take advantage of the Valentine's Day offer. I look forward to learning how to use the App. Unfortunately, I got the German version which, by the way, is called "Wohin." It will be weird listening to prompts in German as the App names points of interest in the US with German pronunciation. :) Anyway, thanks so much for the recommendation. > > Mike > > On 14,Feb,2012, at 9:47 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> If you haven't yet purchased FutureTap's "Where To? -- Discover your next destination" app, it's on sale now for Valentine's Day. This will supply points of interests for all your destinations in Europe and the US, sorted by distance from your current location (or a location or address that you specify -- which can be selected from your Address Book). Results can be sent to GPS apps that can give turn by turn instructions (Navigon, TomTom, MotionX GPS Drive, Sygic, or the Maps app), or you can use the updating direction and distance feature in the app to monitor your travel towards a POI. >> >> ? "Where To? -- Discover your next destination" ($0.99, normally $2.99) by FutureTap: >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> From mike at busboom.at Sat Feb 18 17:26:41 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Mike Busboom) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:26:41 +0100 Subject: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone? In-Reply-To: References: <46b90df4-e6e7-c88b-9928-95a0ea9c8728@me.com> <7CB59CDE66BE44A88D1C4E2EBB057166@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <1D020FA7-AFB5-4970-A931-AE44FF985FDF@mac.com> Message-ID: <05B8889D-10B0-41CD-BC39-C10625C0C8E8@busboom.at> Fantastic, Esther, and thank you. It just makes sense to have the device speak the language that the streets and POI's are named in. That having been said, I am glad that one can have prompting in his/her mother language in countries where all the streets, categories and POI's will be foreign. Again, thank you! Mike On 18,Feb,2012, at 6:20 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Mike, > > You can change to language that "Where To?" uses in Settings. From the main "Where To?" screen that shows when you launch, double tap the "Settings" button in the top right corner. On the "Settings" page, flick right to "Categories: System Language" and double tap. On the "Categories" page, flick right to "English" and double tap to select. Then double tap the "Settings, back button" in the top left corner to leave the "Categories" page and return to "Settings". In the "Settings" page, double tap the "Done" button in the top right corner of the screen. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 18, 2012, at 7:00 AM, Mike Busboom wrote: > >> Thank you very much, Esther, for the heads up. I was still able to take advantage of the Valentine's Day offer. I look forward to learning how to use the App. Unfortunately, I got the German version which, by the way, is called "Wohin." It will be weird listening to prompts in German as the App names points of interest in the US with German pronunciation. :) Anyway, thanks so much for the recommendation. >> >> Mike >> >> On 14,Feb,2012, at 9:47 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> If you haven't yet purchased FutureTap's "Where To? -- Discover your next destination" app, it's on sale now for Valentine's Day. This will supply points of interests for all your destinations in Europe and the US, sorted by distance from your current location (or a location or address that you specify -- which can be selected from your Address Book). Results can be sent to GPS apps that can give turn by turn instructions (Navigon, TomTom, MotionX GPS Drive, Sygic, or the Maps app), or you can use the updating direction and distance feature in the app to monitor your travel towards a POI. >>> >>> ? "Where To? -- Discover your next destination" ($0.99, normally $2.99) by FutureTap: >>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sat Feb 18 17:37:38 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:37:38 -1000 Subject: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone? In-Reply-To: <05B8889D-10B0-41CD-BC39-C10625C0C8E8@busboom.at> References: <46b90df4-e6e7-c88b-9928-95a0ea9c8728@me.com> <7CB59CDE66BE44A88D1C4E2EBB057166@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <1D020FA7-AFB5-4970-A931-AE44FF985FDF@mac.com> <05B8889D-10B0-41CD-BC39-C10625C0C8E8@busboom.at> Message-ID: Hi Mike, "Where To?" is set up to use your default system language, for the 10 language localizations that the app supports. So if your system language is set to German, that's what will be used. However, you can also set it manually to another language. Of course, as a VoiceOver user, you would use the rotor to change the voice to match the language of your selection. Cheers, Esther On Feb 18, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Mike Busboom wrote: > Fantastic, Esther, and thank you. It just makes sense to have the device speak the language that the streets and POI's are named in. That having been said, I am glad that one can have prompting in his/her mother language in countries where all the streets, categories and POI's will be foreign. > > Again, thank you! > > Mike > > On 18,Feb,2012, at 6:20 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> You can change to language that "Where To?" uses in Settings. From the main "Where To?" screen that shows when you launch, double tap the "Settings" button in the top right corner. On the "Settings" page, flick right to "Categories: System Language" and double tap. On the "Categories" page, flick right to "English" and double tap to select. Then double tap the "Settings, back button" in the top left corner to leave the "Categories" page and return to "Settings". In the "Settings" page, double tap the "Done" button in the top right corner of the screen. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 18, 2012, at 7:00 AM, Mike Busboom wrote: >> >>> Thank you very much, Esther, for the heads up. I was still able to take advantage of the Valentine's Day offer. I look forward to learning how to use the App. Unfortunately, I got the German version which, by the way, is called "Wohin." It will be weird listening to prompts in German as the App names points of interest in the US with German pronunciation. :) Anyway, thanks so much for the recommendation. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 14,Feb,2012, at 9:47 PM, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Mike, >>>> >>>> If you haven't yet purchased FutureTap's "Where To? -- Discover your next destination" app, it's on sale now for Valentine's Day. This will supply points of interests for all your destinations in Europe and the US, sorted by distance from your current location (or a location or address that you specify -- which can be selected from your Address Book). Results can be sent to GPS apps that can give turn by turn instructions (Navigon, TomTom, MotionX GPS Drive, Sygic, or the Maps app), or you can use the updating direction and distance feature in the app to monitor your travel towards a POI. >>>> >>>> ? "Where To? -- Discover your next destination" ($0.99, normally $2.99) by FutureTap: >>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> >> From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 18 18:42:46 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:42:46 -0800 Subject: wifi sync In-Reply-To: References: <0C34B24C-B2EC-4A46-B0A5-B941807E6450@gmail.com> <10D152CE-189B-458C-954F-7E719BFECD0D@me.com> <4F3E457B.6050202@techno-chat.net> <10995233-67D6-47EA-9A72-F7DB9790C0E4@gmail.com> <469141F1-8FB1-4410-A1C3-3A9A6D6BC784@me.com> Message-ID: <075CB220-16BF-4A20-9B1B-330186B69E12@gmail.com> Hmm Maybe apple will have that fixed when ever the next update comes out. but I would still bug it with them via the bug tracker just in case. On Feb 18, 2012, at 5:34 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi folks, > > It worked for me consistently until IOS 5.0.1. Even with iTunes open and the Wi-Fi option selected,. > > TC :) > J > You can contact me in the following ways: > E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you > > On 18 Feb 2012, at 12:20, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> even with iTUnes opened, I'm finding it doesn't work. i've never actually seen it work to tell you the truth actually. If there's some trick to get it to consistently, would love to know. >> On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Odd? I'll be playing with it today in a few hours so will see if I can get it to work. >>> >>> Tc. >>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:18 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>> >>>> That's what I do, and it doesn't work. >>>> >>>> On 16/02/2012 22:37, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> Try turning on iTunes as you need to get iTunes running to work. it won't just happen as far as I've found out. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. >>>>> Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, I don't get it either. I can never seem to get Wifi sync to work. . . I have never been able to get it to work, it always says that my Mac isn't available. >>>>>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 1:26 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> hi all, does wifis ync work when the iphone 4 is connected to the wall outlet? >>>>>>> for me it only found the mac when plugged in to the mac itself via wifi what is the point in this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From orin8722 at gmail.com Sat Feb 18 20:24:04 2012 From: orin8722 at gmail.com (Orin) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:24:04 -0500 Subject: A new accessible social networking app called Status Report In-Reply-To: <4DA390F1-3D78-4885-98BC-3C44045AD21B@yahoo.com> References: <4DA390F1-3D78-4885-98BC-3C44045AD21B@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6FC698E9-63F9-4D32-AECB-5F075B8F7082@gmail.com> I wonder if he plans on adding features like chatting etc in the future. These features would be awesome. We need a fully featured FB and or all social network client. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Ed Worrell wrote: > Hello LIsters. I have been working with an app developer to make his Social networking app accessible. The app is called Status Report. Here is the direct link to it in the app store. > http://itunes.apple.com/ye/app/status-report/id474219737?mt=8 > The app interface is very simple. The app was made only to update your status and to look at, like. and comment on your friends status messages. It will not allow you to send direct messages to your friends, or allow you to chat with them, but it is a great app and Anders the developer should be commended for his quick turn around on this app. He is very quick to respond and had many if not all of the bugs with voiceover fixed with in a couple of hours of talking to him. > > To refresh the page and see new posts by your friends just find the first status on the main page and double tap and drag down and this will refresh your feed, he even made it so voiceover tells you that it is updateing and when it has finished updateing. This is a simple and great app that should not be overlooked. He is planning to add more social networking sites in future updates. > > Give it a shot > > Thanks > ED > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sat Feb 18 20:28:27 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:28:27 +0000 Subject: A new accessible social networking app called Status Report In-Reply-To: <6FC698E9-63F9-4D32-AECB-5F075B8F7082@gmail.com> References: <4DA390F1-3D78-4885-98BC-3C44045AD21B@yahoo.com> <6FC698E9-63F9-4D32-AECB-5F075B8F7082@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, I agree faceedk is a good app though as well. From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Feb 18 21:24:43 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:24:43 +0000 Subject: Editing with Amadeus Pro Message-ID: <78D98BB5-5884-45EC-90D6-124C6C8B93E2@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Eric, Many thanks for sending me the short podcasts about editing with Amadeus Pro. I can now reliably correct my piano playing! For example to remove a prolonged silence I play the track until I hear the start of the silence and place a marker there. I then continue until I hear the first note after the silence and place a second marker there. I then extend the selection to the prior marker. I then press the space bar to hear the selection and adjust it by pressing the a, s, d, or f keys to adjust the left hand end or right hand end of the selection. I press the desired key a few times and then press the space bar to hear the result and then press the desired key again until the result is correct. If I overshoot I can easily reverse that. I then press the e key to hear the effect of removing the selection (I set the preview time in Amadeus preferences to its maximum of 2 seconds). when all is correct I press the delete key to delete the selection and press the command+delete key to remove the markers associated wit the selection. I then save the result in case I mess it up later on. This all sounds very tedious but is surprisingly quick and easy to do. A good trick is to set the horizontal zoom slider so that each press of the a through f keys does a sensible amount of adjustment. Rather than do a podcast on this I would prefer to write it up as a shortish document with fully detailed instructions. If I did that where could I put the document so that it would be useful to others? Is blind cool tech exclusively podcasts or are text documents also acceptable? I prefer documents as it is much easier to locate salient points after the initial read through, whereas with a podcast I have to listen to quite a bit of material I am familiar with tho locate the point of interest. WIth a text document this is easily accomplished by the find command. Anyway when I have a bit more experience of this editing I will write it up or podcast it and save it somewhere. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From opensesame at me.com Sat Feb 18 22:23:02 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:23:02 -0500 Subject: Adobe Digital Editions Preview 3 released Message-ID: <2EEBF744-1CBF-4C83-9E89-961516F97464@me.com> Adobe has released another unfinished version of their "Digital Editions" epub & pdf reader application. They are slowly -- and I emphasize the word *slowly* -- adding VO support to this product. I'm interested to hear if folks are finding any accessibility improvements in the latest version. I found no improvements over the previous version, and the following issues still exist as far as I can tell: VO still restarts when attempting to interact with a page. It still doesn't seem possible to navigate reliably -- or at all -- by anything smaller than a page. They have chosen not to label the same unlabeled toolbar buttons from the last release. The app whent into a non-responsive state several times in my initial testing, which simply involved trying to read the 8 page epub guide installed with the app. Here's a link to the Adobe Labs page for this application: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/digitaleditions1-8.html Bryan From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sat Feb 18 23:38:34 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria From Australia) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:38:34 +1100 Subject: Editing with Amadeus Pro In-Reply-To: <78D98BB5-5884-45EC-90D6-124C6C8B93E2@hopewell.org.uk> References: <78D98BB5-5884-45EC-90D6-124C6C8B93E2@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: HI. If you write such a document i would love a copy. My email address is below. I have used gold wave before for this type of stuff, but would like to learn to do it on the mac. thanks Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 19/02/2012, at 8:24 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Eric, > Many thanks for sending me the short podcasts about editing with Amadeus Pro. I can now reliably correct my piano playing! For example to remove a prolonged silence I play the track until I hear the start of the silence and place a marker there. I then continue until I hear the first note after the silence and place a second marker there. I then extend the selection to the prior marker. I then press the space bar to hear the selection and adjust it by pressing the a, s, d, or f keys to adjust the left hand end or right hand end of the selection. I press the desired key a few times and then press the space bar to hear the result and then press the desired key again until the result is correct. If I overshoot I can easily reverse that. I then press the e key to hear the effect of removing the selection (I set the preview time in Amadeus preferences to its maximum of 2 seconds). when all is correct I press the delete key to delete the selection and press the command+delete key t > o remove the markers associated wit the selection. I then save the result in case I mess it up later on. This all sounds very tedious but is surprisingly quick and easy to do. A good trick is to set the horizontal zoom slider so that each press of the a through f keys does a sensible amount of adjustment. > > Rather than do a podcast on this I would prefer to write it up as a shortish document with fully detailed instructions. If I did that where could I put the document so that it would be useful to others? Is blind cool tech exclusively podcasts or are text documents also acceptable? I prefer documents as it is much easier to locate salient points after the initial read through, whereas with a podcast I have to listen to quite a bit of material I am familiar with tho locate the point of interest. WIth a text document this is easily accomplished by the find command. > Anyway when I have a bit more experience of this editing I will write it up or podcast it and save it somewhere. > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Feb 19 00:52:00 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:52:00 -0500 Subject: Editing with Amadeus Pro In-Reply-To: <78D98BB5-5884-45EC-90D6-124C6C8B93E2@hopewell.org.uk> References: <78D98BB5-5884-45EC-90D6-124C6C8B93E2@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <55C21BDF-89A4-410C-9A71-1E42903E7216@Mac-Access.net> Hi Paul and others, I'm so glad those podcasts from Dave helped you. I'll need to listen to them again myself! I find podcasts with demonstrations are easier for me to use for things like Amadeus Pro. But I would take your write up for sure! But, please consider doing a podcast showing what you have learned. Eric Caron On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Eric, > Many thanks for sending me the short podcasts about editing with Amadeus Pro. I can now reliably correct my piano playing! For example to remove a prolonged silence I play the track until I hear the start of the silence and place a marker there. I then continue until I hear the first note after the silence and place a second marker there. I then extend the selection to the prior marker. I then press the space bar to hear the selection and adjust it by pressing the a, s, d, or f keys to adjust the left hand end or right hand end of the selection. I press the desired key a few times and then press the space bar to hear the result and then press the desired key again until the result is correct. If I overshoot I can easily reverse that. I then press the e key to hear the effect of removing the selection (I set the preview time in Amadeus preferences to its maximum of 2 seconds). when all is correct I press the delete key to delete the selection and press the command+delete key t > o remove the markers associated wit the selection. I then save the result in case I mess it up later on. This all sounds very tedious but is surprisingly quick and easy to do. A good trick is to set the horizontal zoom slider so that each press of the a through f keys does a sensible amount of adjustment. > > Rather than do a podcast on this I would prefer to write it up as a shortish document with fully detailed instructions. If I did that where could I put the document so that it would be useful to others? Is blind cool tech exclusively podcasts or are text documents also acceptable? I prefer documents as it is much easier to locate salient points after the initial read through, whereas with a podcast I have to listen to quite a bit of material I am familiar with tho locate the point of interest. WIth a text document this is easily accomplished by the find command. > Anyway when I have a bit more experience of this editing I will write it up or podcast it and save it somewhere. > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Sun Feb 19 05:00:57 2012 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 23:00:57 -0600 Subject: Editing with Amadeus Pro In-Reply-To: <55C21BDF-89A4-410C-9A71-1E42903E7216@Mac-Access.net> References: <78D98BB5-5884-45EC-90D6-124C6C8B93E2@hopewell.org.uk> <55C21BDF-89A4-410C-9A71-1E42903E7216@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Hello Eric: I want to personally thank you for providing that download. Dave has really done a wonderful job and of course it was your fault when you did a podcast creating a cd from to old albumb podcast. smile I will also write to Dave on his wonderful work. Take care, John On Feb 18, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Paul and others, > > I'm so glad those podcasts from Dave helped you. I'll need to listen to them again myself! > > I find podcasts with demonstrations are easier for me to use for things like Amadeus Pro. But I would take your write up for sure! > > But, please consider doing a podcast showing what you have learned. > > Eric Caron > > On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hi Eric, >> Many thanks for sending me the short podcasts about editing with Amadeus Pro. I can now reliably correct my piano playing! For example to remove a prolonged silence I play the track until I hear the start of the silence and place a marker there. I then continue until I hear the first note after the silence and place a second marker there. I then extend the selection to the prior marker. I then press the space bar to hear the selection and adjust it by pressing the a, s, d, or f keys to adjust the left hand end or right hand end of the selection. I press the desired key a few times and then press the space bar to hear the result and then press the desired key again until the result is correct. If I overshoot I can easily reverse that. I then press the e key to hear the effect of removing the selection (I set the preview time in Amadeus preferences to its maximum of 2 seconds). when all is correct I press the delete key to delete the selection and press the command+delete key > t >> o remove the markers associated wit the selection. I then save the result in case I mess it up later on. This all sounds very tedious but is surprisingly quick and easy to do. A good trick is to set the horizontal zoom slider so that each press of the a through f keys does a sensible amount of adjustment. >> >> Rather than do a podcast on this I would prefer to write it up as a shortish document with fully detailed instructions. If I did that where could I put the document so that it would be useful to others? Is blind cool tech exclusively podcasts or are text documents also acceptable? I prefer documents as it is much easier to locate salient points after the initial read through, whereas with a podcast I have to listen to quite a bit of material I am familiar with tho locate the point of interest. WIth a text document this is easily accomplished by the find command. >> Anyway when I have a bit more experience of this editing I will write it up or podcast it and save it somewhere. >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sun Feb 19 08:21:26 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:21:26 +0100 Subject: Adobe Digital Editions Preview 3 released In-Reply-To: <2EEBF744-1CBF-4C83-9E89-961516F97464@me.com> References: <2EEBF744-1CBF-4C83-9E89-961516F97464@me.com> Message-ID: <43E0D4A5-F20B-4D89-A951-72237160939C@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Bryan, I've just got the new version and I can't find any changes at all. With the previous version, I read quite a few books without much trouble, and simply copied any pages I wanted to look at closely into TextEdit by using the VO-Shift-c command. By the way, to select a chapter from the TOC, just press space bar. I always forget that one. Cheers, Anne On 18 Feb 2012, at 23:23, Bryan Jones wrote: > Adobe has released another unfinished version of their "Digital Editions" epub & pdf reader application. They are slowly -- and I emphasize the word *slowly* -- adding VO support to this product. I'm interested to hear if folks are finding any accessibility improvements in the latest version. I found no improvements over the previous version, and the following issues still exist as far as I can tell: VO still restarts when attempting to interact with a page. It still doesn't seem possible to navigate reliably -- or at all -- by anything smaller than a page. They have chosen not to label the same unlabeled toolbar buttons from the last release. The app whent into a non-responsive state several times in my initial testing, which simply involved trying to read the 8 page epub guide installed with the app. > > Here's a link to the Adobe Labs page for this application: > http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/digitaleditions1-8.html > > Bryan > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Feb 19 08:27:08 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:27:08 +0000 Subject: youtube help. Message-ID: <35E82194-87F5-4653-B3C6-A5FE8702B4D0@googlemail.com> Hi all, on youtube if I subscribe to a channel and go in to it where do i go to change it forinstance if I want email updates. thanks Ian McNamara From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 08:36:26 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 03:36:26 -0500 Subject: Lion clean installation. Message-ID: Greetings y'all, I've been experiencing some random weirdness and decided to start from scratch. To that end, I faked the Mac app store into letting me download 10.7.3 and am attempting to burn it to either a DVD or a 32 GB SD card (smallest one I have available right now). When I drop the InstallESD.dmg file into disk utility, select burn, insert a DVD and select burn, it goes into the verification process for about 15 minutes before presenting an error indicating that the disk could not be created. I treated the first DVD as a coaster, and verified the "InstallESD.dmg" image before trying again and obtaining the same result (or lack there of). The DVD mounts and the content seems plausible, but I don't know if I want to kill my partition and learn in mid install that the verification error message was actually validly issued. I then tried copying the image to my SD card, but seem to be going about this wrong. I select the restore tab and drop the .dmg file into the source area. When I attempt to drop the unnamed SD volume onto the target field, it appears to land in the source area, and simultaneously activate the "first aid" tab. I tried the outer volume (item reads 32 GB reader), but could not determine how to remain in the restore tab and render the "restore" button active. I tried reformatting the sd card as "OSX Journaled", but still no luck. Assuming that I eventually create a bootable SD card, how can I quickly boot to it? Is there a command key combo like command-r or command-c? I tried holding option during power up, but vo did not start, or respond to command-f5. I could probably boot the recovery partition, and exit to have vo active in the drive selection prompt, but thought I'd ask whether there's a quicker method? Best regards. Geoff From tonyo122 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Feb 19 12:23:32 2012 From: tonyo122 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tony Orlebar) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:23:32 +0000 Subject: Emails Message-ID: <7BE48106-6F9E-414E-97DA-25B7953A243F@blueyonder.co.uk> How do I filter the emails coming through from mac access? From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Feb 19 13:09:19 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:09:19 +0000 Subject: Editing with Amadeus Pro In-Reply-To: <55C21BDF-89A4-410C-9A71-1E42903E7216@Mac-Access.net> References: <78D98BB5-5884-45EC-90D6-124C6C8B93E2@hopewell.org.uk> <55C21BDF-89A4-410C-9A71-1E42903E7216@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Hi Eric, OK I will have a go at a podcast. I have never done a podcast so would appreciate a few tips on the mechanics. In particular what technology is best for concurrently recording my voice, the output of VoiceOver, and the Amadeus playback using my iMac? I could record it all using my Victor Reader Stream but I suspect there is a better way. Many thanks for any tips. Paul Hopewell recorindg particulart ghave On 19 Feb 2012, at 00:52, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Paul and others, > > I'm so glad those podcasts from Dave helped you. I'll need to listen to them again myself! > > I find podcasts with demonstrations are easier for me to use for things like Amadeus Pro. But I would take your write up for sure! > > But, please consider doing a podcast showing what you have learned. > > Eric Caron > > On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hi Eric, >> Many thanks for sending me the short podcasts about editing with Amadeus Pro. I can now reliably correct my piano playing! For example to remove a prolonged silence I play the track until I hear the start of the silence and place a marker there. I then continue until I hear the first note after the silence and place a second marker there. I then extend the selection to the prior marker. I then press the space bar to hear the selection and adjust it by pressing the a, s, d, or f keys to adjust the left hand end or right hand end of the selection. I press the desired key a few times and then press the space bar to hear the result and then press the desired key again until the result is correct. If I overshoot I can easily reverse that. I then press the e key to hear the effect of removing the selection (I set the preview time in Amadeus preferences to its maximum of 2 seconds). when all is correct I press the delete key to delete the selection and press the command+delete key > t >> o remove the markers associated wit the selection. I then save the result in case I mess it up later on. This all sounds very tedious but is surprisingly quick and easy to do. A good trick is to set the horizontal zoom slider so that each press of the a through f keys does a sensible amount of adjustment. >> >> Rather than do a podcast on this I would prefer to write it up as a shortish document with fully detailed instructions. If I did that where could I put the document so that it would be useful to others? Is blind cool tech exclusively podcasts or are text documents also acceptable? I prefer documents as it is much easier to locate salient points after the initial read through, whereas with a podcast I have to listen to quite a bit of material I am familiar with tho locate the point of interest. WIth a text document this is easily accomplished by the find command. >> Anyway when I have a bit more experience of this editing I will write it up or podcast it and save it somewhere. >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sun Feb 19 13:25:22 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:25:22 +0000 Subject: Carbon Coypy cloner Message-ID: <3216473D-62CD-4E18-87BF-BC4275CD193D@btinternet.com> Carbon Copy cloner is driving me nuts. I have tried umpteen times now to set up a clone of my primary Mac Drive. I have tried 3 different drives and each time i get a configuration concern message. What I am doing is . 1. Launching disk Utility 2. select the drive and formatting it as Mac Extended. 3. Then going to partition tab. 4. I am am selecting one partition. I then try to format the partition.partition as the partition mode. 5. I have now tried every type of Mac Format with all three drives that is Mac Extended mac Case sensitive and the older type format called, I think ATT. Despite all this every single time I try to clone Carbon copy morosely informs me of a configuration concern and refers me to help page which I must have read at least 10 times now. Can some one hep preserve my sanity and give me a clue as to what I am doing wrong? David Griffith David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Feb 19 15:00:34 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:00:34 +0000 Subject: How to do this on a Mac? Message-ID: Hello, Below are some instructions copied from a web site on how to modify settings in a Netgear DG843G wireless router so that it works with a Sony Ericsson Arc S Android phone. These instructions are written for a Windows computer. My question is how can I do the same job on my iMac running Mac OS 10.7.3? I can get as far as setting the router into debug mode but am then stuck. I suspect it can be done via Terminal but not sure how. Go into Control Panel - Programs and features - Turn Windows features on or off Flag the voice "Telnet client", click Ok, save if necessary and close. Now open your browser, type http://192.168.0.1/setup.cgi?todo=debug, enter username and password usually they are: "admin" and "password" Now you can see " Debug enable", then go to Start - Run and write telnet 192.168.0.1 a dos window will be open, and after the sign #, type this value: wlctl bi 50 so, you have the beacon interval set to 50 ms, close the browser and the prompt dos. Note: if you restart the router, you have to repeat the procedure every time ! Many thanks for any help. Paul Hopewell From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Feb 19 15:56:05 2012 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:56:05 +0000 Subject: How to do this on a Mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5D6942F1-4F13-4819-A79D-FE75AF0E5D36@blueyonder.co.uk> Just ignore the windows telnet stuff, and just simply enter the URL into Safari and enter your username and password. On 19 Feb 2012, at 15:00, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > Below are some instructions copied from a web site on how to modify settings in a Netgear DG843G wireless router so that it works with a Sony Ericsson Arc S Android phone. These instructions are written for a Windows computer. My question is how can I do the same job on my iMac running Mac OS 10.7.3? I can get as far as setting the router into debug mode but am then stuck. I suspect it can be done via Terminal but not sure how. > > Go into Control Panel - Programs and features - Turn Windows features on or off > Flag the voice "Telnet client", click Ok, save if necessary and close. > Now open your browser, type http://192.168.0.1/setup.cgi?todo=debug, enter username and password > usually they are: "admin" and "password" > Now you can see " Debug enable", then go to Start - Run and write telnet 192.168.0.1 > a dos window will be open, and after the sign #, type this value: > wlctl bi 50 > > so, you have the beacon interval set to 50 ms, close the browser and the prompt dos. > Note: if you restart the router, you have to repeat the procedure every time ! > > Many thanks for any help. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Sun Feb 19 16:02:58 2012 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:02:58 -0500 Subject: Getting Skype to Work in Speaker Mode on the iPhone Message-ID: <0LZN0013JDX1URF0@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Folks. Perhaps I missed this, but is there a way to get Skype on the iPhone to work in speakerphone mode? Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao From jpanarese at mac-access.net Sun Feb 19 17:28:26 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:28:26 -0500 Subject: Lion clean installation. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Geoff, Theoretically, you are doing everything correctly as far as creating a bootable DVD using the installESD.dmg file. Have you tried this using an original version of Lion downloaded from the Mac App Store, instead of a 10.7.3 version? Also, what kind of Mac are you trying this process on and is it running 10.7.3 itself? As for creating the flash drive, I have the same issues trying to use the Restore tab. The only thing I was able to do is make a Recovery Disk Assistant you can get from Apple to run. The problem is this does not include all of the install data and if you have a Mac that was released after Lion's release, I understand that it doesn't always work as far as trying to use the Recovery on it. For some reason, drag and drop just does not work in Disk Utility in the Restore tab. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd also be very interested in them. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:36 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings y'all, > > I've been experiencing some random weirdness and decided to start from scratch. To that end, I faked the Mac app store into letting me download 10.7.3 and am attempting to burn it to either a DVD or a 32 GB SD card (smallest one I have available right now). > > When I drop the InstallESD.dmg file into disk utility, select burn, insert a DVD and select burn, it goes into the verification process for about 15 minutes before presenting an error indicating that the disk could not be created. I treated the first DVD as a coaster, and verified the "InstallESD.dmg" image before trying again and obtaining the same result (or lack there of). > > The DVD mounts and the content seems plausible, but I don't know if I want to kill my partition and learn in mid install that the verification error message was actually validly issued. > > I then tried copying the image to my SD card, but seem to be going about this wrong. I select the restore tab and drop the .dmg file into the source area. When I attempt to drop the unnamed SD volume onto the target field, it appears to land in the source area, and simultaneously activate the "first aid" tab. I tried the outer volume (item reads 32 GB reader), but could not determine how to remain in the restore tab and render the "restore" button active. I tried reformatting the sd card as "OSX Journaled", but still no luck. > > Assuming that I eventually create a bootable SD card, how can I quickly boot to it? Is there a command key combo like command-r or command-c? I tried holding option during power up, but vo did not start, or respond to command-f5. I could probably boot the recovery partition, and exit to have vo active in the drive selection prompt, but thought I'd ask whether there's a quicker method? > > Best regards. > Geoff > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 18:06:51 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:06:51 -0800 Subject: Lion clean installation. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just did this. you need to use a thumb drive. 1. insert thumb drive. 2. format it as mac osx extended journaled. 3. erase all content. 4. click restore and control click the flash drive.. 5. set it as destination. 6,. I had to do the erase again and hit restore tab 7. choose image button and mount the 10.7.3 dmg. 8. make sure your destination is now set to the thumb drive and click restore. 9. confirm. It will take about 30 minutes for this to be accomplished. good luck. On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:28 AM, John Panarese wrote: > Hi Geoff, > Theoretically, you are doing everything correctly as far as creating a bootable DVD using the installESD.dmg file. > > Have you tried this using an original version of Lion downloaded from the Mac App Store, instead of a 10.7.3 version? Also, what kind of Mac are you trying this process on and is it running 10.7.3 itself? > > As for creating the flash drive, I have the same issues trying to use the Restore tab. The only thing I was able to do is make a Recovery Disk Assistant you can get from Apple to run. The problem is this does not include all of the install data and if you have a Mac that was released after Lion's release, I understand that it doesn't always work as far as trying to use the Recovery on it. > > For some reason, drag and drop just does not work in Disk Utility in the Restore tab. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd also be very interested in them. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:36 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Greetings y'all, >> >> I've been experiencing some random weirdness and decided to start from scratch. To that end, I faked the Mac app store into letting me download 10.7.3 and am attempting to burn it to either a DVD or a 32 GB SD card (smallest one I have available right now). >> >> When I drop the InstallESD.dmg file into disk utility, select burn, insert a DVD and select burn, it goes into the verification process for about 15 minutes before presenting an error indicating that the disk could not be created. I treated the first DVD as a coaster, and verified the "InstallESD.dmg" image before trying again and obtaining the same result (or lack there of). >> >> The DVD mounts and the content seems plausible, but I don't know if I want to kill my partition and learn in mid install that the verification error message was actually validly issued. >> >> I then tried copying the image to my SD card, but seem to be going about this wrong. I select the restore tab and drop the .dmg file into the source area. When I attempt to drop the unnamed SD volume onto the target field, it appears to land in the source area, and simultaneously activate the "first aid" tab. I tried the outer volume (item reads 32 GB reader), but could not determine how to remain in the restore tab and render the "restore" button active. I tried reformatting the sd card as "OSX Journaled", but still no luck. >> >> Assuming that I eventually create a bootable SD card, how can I quickly boot to it? Is there a command key combo like command-r or command-c? I tried holding option during power up, but vo did not start, or respond to command-f5. I could probably boot the recovery partition, and exit to have vo active in the drive selection prompt, but thought I'd ask whether there's a quicker method? >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 18:08:44 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:08:44 -0800 Subject: youtube help. In-Reply-To: <35E82194-87F5-4653-B3C6-A5FE8702B4D0@googlemail.com> References: <35E82194-87F5-4653-B3C6-A5FE8702B4D0@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1407244E-4062-4E36-B798-A342B6C7766F@gmail.com> There is a fly out menu when you click your username buton. You can then vo rigbht to settings and inbox and all of tht. Now let's hope youtube does not or has not changed the settings whenh I last did this. Take care all. On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi all, on youtube if I subscribe to a channel and go in to it where do i go to change it forinstance if I want email updates. > > thanks Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 18:10:55 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:10:55 -0800 Subject: cmd option l takes me to an empty download folder but it is not truly empty. Message-ID: <3B99D6A9-708D-4400-950B-64873AFEC0AB@gmail.com> Hello to all. Cmd shift down arrow takes me to a empty downloads folder in the finder but when I brows to it from my home directory it is not empty. I tried to copy the content of this mystery folder but no joy. what am I doing wrong here or what did I do to screw up. This is on a clean install of lion 10.7.3. all updated. Take care. all. Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 18:11:50 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:11:50 -0500 Subject: Lion clean installation. References: Message-ID: <4D10243E405B4936BC350F34E2478CAD@DD952WB1> Hello John, Thanks much for the info -- I'm running a mid 2010 13 inch MBP which was upgraded to Lion 10.7.3 with 8GB of memory. I believe that the 10.7.3 build is the only version available from the app store. Sounds like its time to purchase an 8GB sd card and find a pair of eyes that can follow directions :). Best. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:28 PM Subject: Re: Lion clean installation. > Hi Geoff, > Theoretically, you are doing everything correctly as far as creating a > bootable DVD using the installESD.dmg file. > > Have you tried this using an original version of Lion downloaded from > the Mac App Store, instead of a 10.7.3 version? Also, what kind of Mac > are you trying this process on and is it running 10.7.3 itself? > > As for creating the flash drive, I have the same issues trying to use > the Restore tab. The only thing I was able to do is make a Recovery Disk > Assistant you can get from Apple to run. The problem is this does not > include all of the install data and if you have a Mac that was released > after Lion's release, I understand that it doesn't always work as far as > trying to use the Recovery on it. > > For some reason, drag and drop just does not work in Disk Utility in > the Restore tab. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd also be very > interested in them. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:36 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Greetings y'all, >> >> I've been experiencing some random weirdness and decided to start from >> scratch. To that end, I faked the Mac app store into letting me download >> 10.7.3 and am attempting to burn it to either a DVD or a 32 GB SD card >> (smallest one I have available right now). >> >> When I drop the InstallESD.dmg file into disk utility, select burn, >> insert a DVD and select burn, it goes into the verification process for >> about 15 minutes before presenting an error indicating that the disk >> could not be created. I treated the first DVD as a coaster, and verified >> the "InstallESD.dmg" image before trying again and obtaining the same >> result (or lack there of). >> >> The DVD mounts and the content seems plausible, but I don't know if I >> want to kill my partition and learn in mid install that the verification >> error message was actually validly issued. >> >> I then tried copying the image to my SD card, but seem to be going about >> this wrong. I select the restore tab and drop the .dmg file into the >> source area. When I attempt to drop the unnamed SD volume onto the >> target field, it appears to land in the source area, and simultaneously >> activate the "first aid" tab. I tried the outer volume (item reads 32 GB >> reader), but could not determine how to remain in the restore tab and >> render the "restore" button active. I tried reformatting the sd card as >> "OSX Journaled", but still no luck. >> >> Assuming that I eventually create a bootable SD card, how can I quickly >> boot to it? Is there a command key combo like command-r or command-c? I >> tried holding option during power up, but vo did not start, or respond to >> command-f5. I could probably boot the recovery partition, and exit to >> have vo active in the drive selection prompt, but thought I'd ask whether >> there's a quicker method? >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sun Feb 19 18:23:33 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:23:33 +0000 Subject: How to do this on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <5D6942F1-4F13-4819-A79D-FE75AF0E5D36@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <5D6942F1-4F13-4819-A79D-FE75AF0E5D36@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: I Chris, My problem is with the second part of the Windows instructions. I can forget the initial telnet stuff and instead use Safari to logon to my Netgear router in debug mode with no problem. My problem is with.... "Now you can see " Debug enable" (which I can indeed see), then go to Start - Run and write telnet 192.168.0.1 >> a DOS window will be open, and after the sign #, type this value: wlctl bi 50" Presumably I need the Mac equivalent of the telnet stuff to do that and the Mac equivalent of the DOS window to enter the command to be executed by the Netgear router. Or maybe it is not possible to do this on a Mac???? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell On 19 Feb 2012, at 15:56, Chris Moore wrote: > Just ignore the windows telnet stuff, and just simply enter the URL into Safari and enter your username and password. > On 19 Feb 2012, at 15:00, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> Below are some instructions copied from a web site on how to modify settings in a Netgear DG843G wireless router so that it works with a Sony Ericsson Arc S Android phone. These instructions are written for a Windows computer. My question is how can I do the same job on my iMac running Mac OS 10.7.3? I can get as far as setting the router into debug mode but am then stuck. I suspect it can be done via Terminal but not sure how. >> >> Go into Control Panel - Programs and features - Turn Windows features on or off >> Flag the voice "Telnet client", click Ok, save if necessary and close. >> Now open your browser, type http://192.168.0.1/setup.cgi?todo=debug, enter username and password >> usually they are: "admin" and "password" >> Now you can see " Debug enable", then go to Start - Run and write telnet 192.168.0.1 >> a dos window will be open, and after the sign #, type this value: >> wlctl bi 50 >> >> so, you have the beacon interval set to 50 ms, close the browser and the prompt dos. >> Note: if you restart the router, you have to repeat the procedure every time ! >> >> Many thanks for any help. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jpanarese at mac-access.net Sun Feb 19 18:25:17 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:25:17 -0500 Subject: Lion clean installation. In-Reply-To: <4D10243E405B4936BC350F34E2478CAD@DD952WB1> References: <4D10243E405B4936BC350F34E2478CAD@DD952WB1> Message-ID: <1D37855F-5920-4AA1-884D-7B5D845EC333@mac-access.net> Hi Geoff, I'm going to try Sarah's instructions later. I think I missed a step in her procedure, but this should work for a Flash drive as well as a DVD. As long as it creates a 4 GB disk, it will have all of the install data needed to be used on any Mac to upgrade or clean install Lion. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 19, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hello John, > > Thanks much for the info -- I'm running a mid 2010 13 inch MBP which was upgraded to Lion 10.7.3 with 8GB of memory. I believe that the 10.7.3 build is the only version available from the app store. Sounds like its time to purchase an 8GB sd card and find a pair of eyes that can follow directions :). > > Best. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:28 PM > Subject: Re: Lion clean installation. > > >> Hi Geoff, >> Theoretically, you are doing everything correctly as far as creating a bootable DVD using the installESD.dmg file. >> >> Have you tried this using an original version of Lion downloaded from the Mac App Store, instead of a 10.7.3 version? Also, what kind of Mac are you trying this process on and is it running 10.7.3 itself? >> >> As for creating the flash drive, I have the same issues trying to use the Restore tab. The only thing I was able to do is make a Recovery Disk Assistant you can get from Apple to run. The problem is this does not include all of the install data and if you have a Mac that was released after Lion's release, I understand that it doesn't always work as far as trying to use the Recovery on it. >> >> For some reason, drag and drop just does not work in Disk Utility in the Restore tab. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd also be very interested in them. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:36 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >>> Greetings y'all, >>> >>> I've been experiencing some random weirdness and decided to start from scratch. To that end, I faked the Mac app store into letting me download 10.7.3 and am attempting to burn it to either a DVD or a 32 GB SD card (smallest one I have available right now). >>> >>> When I drop the InstallESD.dmg file into disk utility, select burn, insert a DVD and select burn, it goes into the verification process for about 15 minutes before presenting an error indicating that the disk could not be created. I treated the first DVD as a coaster, and verified the "InstallESD.dmg" image before trying again and obtaining the same result (or lack there of). >>> >>> The DVD mounts and the content seems plausible, but I don't know if I want to kill my partition and learn in mid install that the verification error message was actually validly issued. >>> >>> I then tried copying the image to my SD card, but seem to be going about this wrong. I select the restore tab and drop the .dmg file into the source area. When I attempt to drop the unnamed SD volume onto the target field, it appears to land in the source area, and simultaneously activate the "first aid" tab. I tried the outer volume (item reads 32 GB reader), but could not determine how to remain in the restore tab and render the "restore" button active. I tried reformatting the sd card as "OSX Journaled", but still no luck. >>> >>> Assuming that I eventually create a bootable SD card, how can I quickly boot to it? Is there a command key combo like command-r or command-c? I tried holding option during power up, but vo did not start, or respond to command-f5. I could probably boot the recovery partition, and exit to have vo active in the drive selection prompt, but thought I'd ask whether there's a quicker method? >>> >>> Best regards. >>> Geoff >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jpanarese at mac-access.net Sun Feb 19 18:27:50 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:27:50 -0500 Subject: Lion clean installation. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <241FE6DE-B6E0-43EA-83D2-5C262B52CB5C@mac-access.net> Hi Sarah, I'll have to try this. I think I missed a step when I tried before. Thank you for these instructions. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 19, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I just did this. you need to use a thumb drive. > > 1. insert thumb drive. > > 2. format it as mac osx extended journaled. > > 3. erase all content. > > 4. click restore and control click the flash drive.. > > 5. set it as destination. > > 6,. I had to do the erase again and hit restore tab > > 7. choose image button and mount the 10.7.3 dmg. > > > 8. make sure your destination is now set to the thumb drive and click restore. > > 9. confirm. It will take about 30 minutes for this to be accomplished. > > good luck. > On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:28 AM, John Panarese wrote: > >> Hi Geoff, >> Theoretically, you are doing everything correctly as far as creating a bootable DVD using the installESD.dmg file. >> >> Have you tried this using an original version of Lion downloaded from the Mac App Store, instead of a 10.7.3 version? Also, what kind of Mac are you trying this process on and is it running 10.7.3 itself? >> >> As for creating the flash drive, I have the same issues trying to use the Restore tab. The only thing I was able to do is make a Recovery Disk Assistant you can get from Apple to run. The problem is this does not include all of the install data and if you have a Mac that was released after Lion's release, I understand that it doesn't always work as far as trying to use the Recovery on it. >> >> For some reason, drag and drop just does not work in Disk Utility in the Restore tab. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd also be very interested in them. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:36 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >>> Greetings y'all, >>> >>> I've been experiencing some random weirdness and decided to start from scratch. To that end, I faked the Mac app store into letting me download 10.7.3 and am attempting to burn it to either a DVD or a 32 GB SD card (smallest one I have available right now). >>> >>> When I drop the InstallESD.dmg file into disk utility, select burn, insert a DVD and select burn, it goes into the verification process for about 15 minutes before presenting an error indicating that the disk could not be created. I treated the first DVD as a coaster, and verified the "InstallESD.dmg" image before trying again and obtaining the same result (or lack there of). >>> >>> The DVD mounts and the content seems plausible, but I don't know if I want to kill my partition and learn in mid install that the verification error message was actually validly issued. >>> >>> I then tried copying the image to my SD card, but seem to be going about this wrong. I select the restore tab and drop the .dmg file into the source area. When I attempt to drop the unnamed SD volume onto the target field, it appears to land in the source area, and simultaneously activate the "first aid" tab. I tried the outer volume (item reads 32 GB reader), but could not determine how to remain in the restore tab and render the "restore" button active. I tried reformatting the sd card as "OSX Journaled", but still no luck. >>> >>> Assuming that I eventually create a bootable SD card, how can I quickly boot to it? Is there a command key combo like command-r or command-c? I tried holding option during power up, but vo did not start, or respond to command-f5. I could probably boot the recovery partition, and exit to have vo active in the drive selection prompt, but thought I'd ask whether there's a quicker method? >>> >>> Best regards. >>> Geoff >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 18:35:32 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:35:32 -0800 Subject: I can't save any documents Message-ID: Hello. still running the clean install of lion I can't save any documents and I mean any documents. I get the you don't have permission and it won't even auto save. I made sure that I was set to read and right in the folders, but no go. this happened when I clean installed lion before and that was 2 days ago. I need to do this as I have several college assignments and assessments to do and write as soon as possible. Please help. Oh and doing a permissions repair did not work. thanks. Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. From nc5rnc5r at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 18:40:10 2012 From: nc5rnc5r at gmail.com (Robert Carter) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:40:10 -0600 Subject: New Tech Doctor Podcast Message-ID: Hi All, In the just published Tech Doctor podcast, Robert Carter and Allison Mervis discuss mainstream versus specialized technology, Allison's experience with an Android tablet and jail breaking iOS devices. As always, the podcast is available at http://www.dr-carter.com Robert Carter From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Feb 19 18:43:49 2012 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:43:49 +0000 Subject: How to do this on a Mac? In-Reply-To: References: <5D6942F1-4F13-4819-A79D-FE75AF0E5D36@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Have you tried doing it in terminal? you will find it in your utility folder. On 19 Feb 2012, at 18:23, Paul Hopewell wrote: > I Chris, > My problem is with the second part of the Windows instructions. I can forget the initial telnet stuff and instead use Safari to logon to my Netgear router in debug mode with no problem. My problem is with.... > > "Now you can see " Debug enable" (which I can indeed see), then go to Start - Run and write telnet 192.168.0.1 >>> a DOS window will be open, and after the sign #, type this value: > wlctl bi 50" > > > Presumably I need the Mac equivalent of the telnet stuff to do that and the Mac equivalent of the DOS window to enter the command to be executed by the Netgear router. Or maybe it is not possible to do this on a Mac???? > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > On 19 Feb 2012, at 15:56, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Just ignore the windows telnet stuff, and just simply enter the URL into Safari and enter your username and password. >> On 19 Feb 2012, at 15:00, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> Below are some instructions copied from a web site on how to modify settings in a Netgear DG843G wireless router so that it works with a Sony Ericsson Arc S Android phone. These instructions are written for a Windows computer. My question is how can I do the same job on my iMac running Mac OS 10.7.3? I can get as far as setting the router into debug mode but am then stuck. I suspect it can be done via Terminal but not sure how. >>> >>> Go into Control Panel - Programs and features - Turn Windows features on or off >>> Flag the voice "Telnet client", click Ok, save if necessary and close. >>> Now open your browser, type http://192.168.0.1/setup.cgi?todo=debug, enter username and password >>> usually they are: "admin" and "password" >>> Now you can see " Debug enable", then go to Start - Run and write telnet 192.168.0.1 >>> a dos window will be open, and after the sign #, type this value: >>> wlctl bi 50 >>> >>> so, you have the beacon interval set to 50 ms, close the browser and the prompt dos. >>> Note: if you restart the router, you have to repeat the procedure every time ! >>> >>> Many thanks for any help. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 19:14:42 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:14:42 -0500 Subject: I can't save any documents References: Message-ID: Hi Sarah, I had this issue last Summer and steps such as repairing permissions and clean reinstalls did not fix it. Strangely noone else could reproduce the problem and while preparing my post I can't seem to make it happen, though at some point I'm sure it will when I'm attempting to write to my hd while in a hurry. Since it does not appear to affect most people, I suspect this bug only bites those who have done a clean install, and perhaps is model specific also? I know this sounds strange, but try switching views. I don't recall exactly which view was problematic for me (column I think). So try switching to a different view such as list and you'll probably have no problems writing to your HD. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 1:35 PM Subject: I can't save any documents > Hello. still running the clean install of lion I can't save any documents > and I mean any documents. I get the you don't have permission and it won't > even auto save. I made sure that I was set to read and right in the > folders, but no go. this happened when I clean installed lion before and > that was 2 days ago. I need to do this as I have several college > assignments and assessments to do and write as soon as possible. > > Please help. Oh and doing a permissions repair did not work. > > thanks. > Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on > the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 19:16:28 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:16:28 -0500 Subject: I can't save any documents References: Message-ID: <67D85E67BDD5469187CBF2562535EF7F@DD952WB1> Hi Sarah, I had this issue last Summer and steps such as repairing permissions and clean reinstalls did not fix it. Strangely noone else could reproduce the problem and while preparing my post I can't seem to make it happen, though at some point I'm sure it will when I'm attempting to write to my hd while in a hurry. Since it does not appear to affect most people, I suspect this bug only bites those who have done a clean install, and perhaps is model specific also? I know this sounds strange, but try switching views. I don't recall exactly which view was problematic for me (column I think). So try switching to a different view such as list and you'll probably have no problems writing to your HD. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 1:35 PM Subject: I can't save any documents > Hello. still running the clean install of lion I can't save any documents > and I mean any documents. I get the you don't have permission and it won't > even auto save. I made sure that I was set to read and right in the > folders, but no go. this happened when I clean installed lion before and > that was 2 days ago. I need to do this as I have several college > assignments and assessments to do and write as soon as possible. > > Please help. Oh and doing a permissions repair did not work. > > thanks. > Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on > the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 19 19:16:41 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:16:41 -1000 Subject: cmd option l takes me to an empty download folder but it is not truly empty. In-Reply-To: <3B99D6A9-708D-4400-950B-64873AFEC0AB@gmail.com> References: <3B99D6A9-708D-4400-950B-64873AFEC0AB@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah, What view setting are you using for Finder? (e.g., column view, list view, etc.) If I'm using list view (Command-2) and I use the Command-Option-L shortcut, I'll be taken directly to the contents of the folder, and if I use Command-Up arrow I'll be placed in the Downloads folder. However, if I start in column view mode (Command-3), and I use the Command-Option-L shortcut, I'll be in my Downloads folder, but then using Command-Up arrow puts focus in my home directory accounts folder (e.g., VoiceOver says "esther" instead of "Downloads" in this mode. I think this may have something to do with the weird Command-Option-L implementation for viewing the Downloads window, where under Lion this shortcut now works in FInder, but didn't originally work from Safari, and where it now only works from Safari when the toolbar is not hidden. I also tried clearing my Safari Downloads window after using Command-Option-L from Safari. In Finder, Command-Option-L still shows everything in the Downloads folder, so it's not viewing the window. You should also be able to view your Downloads folder from the Dock, if you've previously set it up with the Context menu (VO-Shift-M) to display as "Folder" and view contents as "List". I currently have this set to sort by "Date Added" -- which is the default setting if you don't change this with the context menu. To view the "Downloads" folder from the Dock, use either VO-D or Control-F3 to navigate to the Dock (or if you have TrackPad Commander enabled, do a two-finger double tap from the bottom half of the TrackPad). Then, I use Fn+Down Arrow or Up Arrow (Page Down or Page Up on a full-size keyboard) to navigate through the sections for Applications, Files and Folders, and Trash in the dock, and Right or Left arrow keys or the typed first letters of a name to navigate to what I want. On a laptop, with the default installation setup, Control-F3 then Fn-Down Arrow puts me at the first folder in the Files and Folders section of the Dock, which is "Documents". Pressing left arrow puts focus on "Downloads", and I can access the menu by pressing space bar, VO-D, or "Return". Then, I can press down arrow to move through the menu (in this case, viewing the most recently added files first). Or I can press up arrow to read the "View in Finder" menu option, in case I really want to view the contents in a Finder window where I can change the viewing mode, find out about file sizes and kinds of file if I am using list mode (Command-2), or sort on column entries (e.g. list items by kind to find applications or media files; sort by size, etc.), or perform operations like copying or moving files. If you want to change the viewing mode of the files in the Downloads folder in your Dock, you can do this from the "Options" menu. Arrowing down from the top of the folder menu in the dock, you'll first view the items sorted according to the order you have selected (e.g., by "Date Added" for downloads), then "Options" and "Show in Finder". So if you access the Downloads folder with space bar, VO-D, or by pressing "Return", and use Up arrow to navigate, you'll get "Show in Finder", "Options", and then the file contents starting with oldest added files first. If you open the Downloads folder and use Down arrow, you'll view the most recent items first. If you want to change the sort order to view these alphabetically, press Command-Down arrow to move to the end of the menu, which is "Show in Finder", then Up arrow to "Options", and right arrow to the sub-menu. Arrow down through the sort options and press "Return" at the one you want. The first one will be "Name". Then, access the folder again (e.g., VO-D, then space bar) and arrow down to view the contents in alphabetical order. The sort ordering for viewing contents of folders in the dock is separate from the viewing options you set up to view these folders in Finder. HTH. It sounds as though this is a weird focus issue for the Command-Option-L shortcut in Finder. This shortcut was really originally defined for Safari. Cheers, Esther On Feb 19, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello to all. Cmd shift down arrow takes me to a empty downloads folder in the finder but when I brows to it from my home directory it is not empty. I tried to copy the content of this mystery folder but no joy. what am I doing wrong here or what did I do to screw up. This is on a clean install of lion 10.7.3. all updated. > > Take care. all. > Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 19:45:25 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:45:25 -0800 Subject: cmd option l takes me to an empty download folder but it is not truly empty. In-Reply-To: References: <3B99D6A9-708D-4400-950B-64873AFEC0AB@gmail.com> Message-ID: I use list view. and it does say empty table but when I navigate to said table manually via home/downloads I can see my contents. Someone else I know of is having this problem as well. Take care. On Feb 19, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > What view setting are you using for Finder? (e.g., column view, list view, etc.) If I'm using list view (Command-2) and I use the Command-Option-L shortcut, I'll be taken directly to the contents of the folder, and if I use Command-Up arrow I'll be placed in the Downloads folder. However, if I start in column view mode (Command-3), and I use the Command-Option-L shortcut, I'll be in my Downloads folder, but then using Command-Up arrow puts focus in my home directory accounts folder (e.g., VoiceOver says "esther" instead of "Downloads" in this mode. I think this may have something to do with the weird Command-Option-L implementation for viewing the Downloads window, where under Lion this shortcut now works in FInder, but didn't originally work from Safari, and where it now only works from Safari when the toolbar is not hidden. > > I also tried clearing my Safari Downloads window after using Command-Option-L from Safari. In Finder, Command-Option-L still shows everything in the Downloads folder, so it's not viewing the window. > > You should also be able to view your Downloads folder from the Dock, if you've previously set it up with the Context menu (VO-Shift-M) to display as "Folder" and view contents as "List". I currently have this set to sort by "Date Added" -- which is the default setting if you don't change this with the context menu. To view the "Downloads" folder from the Dock, use either VO-D or Control-F3 to navigate to the Dock (or if you have TrackPad Commander enabled, do a two-finger double tap from the bottom half of the TrackPad). Then, I use Fn+Down Arrow or Up Arrow (Page Down or Page Up on a full-size keyboard) to navigate through the sections for Applications, Files and Folders, and Trash in the dock, and Right or Left arrow keys or the typed first letters of a name to navigate to what I want. > > On a laptop, with the default installation setup, Control-F3 then Fn-Down Arrow puts me at the first folder in the Files and Folders section of the Dock, which is "Documents". Pressing left arrow puts focus on "Downloads", and I can access the menu by pressing space bar, VO-D, or "Return". Then, I can press down arrow to move through the menu (in this case, viewing the most recently added files first). Or I can press up arrow to read the "View in Finder" menu option, in case I really want to view the contents in a Finder window where I can change the viewing mode, find out about file sizes and kinds of file if I am using list mode (Command-2), or sort on column entries (e.g. list items by kind to find applications or media files; sort by size, etc.), or perform operations like copying or moving files. > > If you want to change the viewing mode of the files in the Downloads folder in your Dock, you can do this from the "Options" menu. Arrowing down from the top of the folder menu in the dock, you'll first view the items sorted according to the order you have selected (e.g., by "Date Added" for downloads), then "Options" and "Show in Finder". So if you access the Downloads folder with space bar, VO-D, or by pressing "Return", and use Up arrow to navigate, you'll get "Show in Finder", "Options", and then the file contents starting with oldest added files first. If you open the Downloads folder and use Down arrow, you'll view the most recent items first. If you want to change the sort order to view these alphabetically, press Command-Down arrow to move to the end of the menu, which is "Show in Finder", then Up arrow to "Options", and right arrow to the sub-menu. Arrow down through the sort options and press "Return" at the one you want. The first one will be "Name". Then, ac > cess the folder again (e.g., VO-D, then space bar) and arrow down to view the contents in alphabetical order. > > The sort ordering for viewing contents of folders in the dock is separate from the viewing options you set up to view these folders in Finder. > > HTH. It sounds as though this is a weird focus issue for the Command-Option-L shortcut in Finder. This shortcut was really originally defined for Safari. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 19, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello to all. Cmd shift down arrow takes me to a empty downloads folder in the finder but when I brows to it from my home directory it is not empty. I tried to copy the content of this mystery folder but no joy. what am I doing wrong here or what did I do to screw up. This is on a clean install of lion 10.7.3. all updated. >> >> Take care. all. >> Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 19:46:49 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:46:49 -0800 Subject: I can't save any documents In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29C3F179-F41F-4706-AAD4-A24B44182C96@gmail.com> I'm using list view. No go. Any thoughts? strangely my pref files can save fine. On Feb 19, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > I had this issue last Summer and steps such as repairing permissions and clean reinstalls did not fix it. Strangely noone else could reproduce the problem and while preparing my post I can't seem to make it happen, though at some point I'm sure it will when I'm attempting to write to my hd while in a hurry. Since it does not appear to affect most people, I suspect this bug only bites those who have done a clean install, and perhaps is model specific also? > > I know this sounds strange, but try switching views. I don't recall exactly which view was problematic for me (column I think). So try switching to a different view such as list and you'll probably have no problems writing to your HD. > > Best regards. > Geoff > ----- > Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 1:35 PM > Subject: I can't save any documents > > >> Hello. still running the clean install of lion I can't save any documents and I mean any documents. I get the you don't have permission and it won't even auto save. I made sure that I was set to read and right in the folders, but no go. this happened when I clean installed lion before and that was 2 days ago. I need to do this as I have several college assignments and assessments to do and write as soon as possible. >> >> Please help. Oh and doing a permissions repair did not work. >> >> thanks. >> Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 19 19:46:19 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:46:19 -1000 Subject: I can't save any documents In-Reply-To: <67D85E67BDD5469187CBF2562535EF7F@DD952WB1> References: <67D85E67BDD5469187CBF2562535EF7F@DD952WB1> Message-ID: Hi Sarah and Geoff, There was definitely something odd about using column view to display the Command-Option-L shortcut for Documents in Sarah's earlier post. I had no problems when I switched to List view (Command-2) for Finder. But that didn't affect my ability to write files. Cheers, Esther On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > I had this issue last Summer and steps such as repairing permissions and clean reinstalls did not fix it. Strangely noone else could reproduce the problem and while preparing my post I can't seem to make it happen, though at some point I'm sure it will when I'm attempting to write to my hd while in a hurry. Since it does not appear to affect most people, I suspect this bug only bites those who have done a clean install, and perhaps is model specific also? > > I know this sounds strange, but try switching views. I don't recall exactly which view was problematic for me (column I think). So try switching to a different view such as list and you'll probably have no problems writing to your HD. > > Best regards. > Geoff > ----- > Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 1:35 PM > Subject: I can't save any documents > > >> Hello. still running the clean install of lion I can't save any documents and I mean any documents. I get the you don't have permission and it won't even auto save. I made sure that I was set to read and right in the folders, but no go. this happened when I clean installed lion before and that was 2 days ago. I need to do this as I have several college assignments and assessments to do and write as soon as possible. >> >> Please help. Oh and doing a permissions repair did not work. >> >> thanks. >> Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. >> From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 19 19:52:21 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:52:21 -1000 Subject: I can't save any documents In-Reply-To: <29C3F179-F41F-4706-AAD4-A24B44182C96@gmail.com> References: <29C3F179-F41F-4706-AAD4-A24B44182C96@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1A73A2A7-5839-4EFB-83D7-33BA8DAC0C8D@mac.com> Hi Sarah, Try creating a new folder under home directory. Then check if you can save files to that directory. In the default setup the folders in your home directory like Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Music, Movies, and Pictures have some odd indirect address setup. In a pinch, you'll be able to work and save files to that folder while you work out what the problem is. Esther On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'm using list view. No go. Any thoughts? strangely my pref files can save fine. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 20:32:28 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:32:28 -0800 Subject: I can't save any documents In-Reply-To: <1A73A2A7-5839-4EFB-83D7-33BA8DAC0C8D@mac.com> References: <29C3F179-F41F-4706-AAD4-A24B44182C96@gmail.com> <1A73A2A7-5839-4EFB-83D7-33BA8DAC0C8D@mac.com> Message-ID: <5E46DF7E-F87A-45A0-86D3-CF26658FD69D@gmail.com> Well it appears to work now, for now. I won't be able to do any work in automator but I don't have to worry about that yet. I hope it does not quit working. but let's say to parity a podcast title, this is not my favorite weekend in tech lol! On Feb 19, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Try creating a new folder under home directory. Then check if you can save files to that directory. In the default setup the folders in your home directory like Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Music, Movies, and Pictures have some odd indirect address setup. > > In a pinch, you'll be able to work and save files to that folder while you work out what the problem is. > > Esther > > On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I'm using list view. No go. Any thoughts? strangely my pref files can save fine. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Feb 19 20:45:25 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:45:25 -0500 Subject: Editing with Amadeus Pro In-Reply-To: References: <78D98BB5-5884-45EC-90D6-124C6C8B93E2@hopewell.org.uk> <55C21BDF-89A4-410C-9A71-1E42903E7216@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Hi Paul and others, Paul, My experience is that just about any digital recorder will do the job well enough for a podcast. For me it is about the content and not how flashy it is. I did the Amadeus Pro podcast with a Olympus DM 50. I clipped the microphone to my lap top screen and had my lap top output playing through speakers behind me. The results were audible and that was good enough. I sometimes fine the high tech podcasts with mixers and such a bit over powering. Also, With some podcast using Autio hijack Pro for example the quality of the computer is so loud that it both overwhelms the human speaker and sounds so much like my actual computer that I have been confused as to whether I did something on my computer or the podcast did! So your Victor reader should be fine. the only catch is the Victor records in a format you will not be able to import into Amadeus Pro to edit or convert to mp3. that is unless you have the optional soft pack upgrade. I have heard many clear podcasts recorded with the Victor Reader Stream. So again the voice output doesn't need to be spectacular to work well. My recent podcasts on using the Reminders App and List Recorder were just don with the internal microphone with Amadeus Pro. I didn't do much of anything to clean them up other then delete extra sound. My iPhone was being used normally just near the computer. I hope to make future ones better as you and others increase my knowledge of Amadeus Pro. But I promise to not get carried away with music and echoes and all that stuff. This is a great thread, I've been pushing myself to learn more thanks to you folks. eRic Caron On Feb 19, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Eric, > OK I will have a go at a podcast. I have never done a podcast so would appreciate a few tips on the mechanics. In particular what technology is best for concurrently recording my voice, the output of VoiceOver, and the Amadeus playback using my iMac? I could record it all using my Victor Reader Stream but I suspect there is a better way. > Many thanks for any tips. > > Paul Hopewell > recorindg particulart ghave > On 19 Feb 2012, at 00:52, Eric Caron wrote: > >> Hi Paul and others, >> >> I'm so glad those podcasts from Dave helped you. I'll need to listen to them again myself! >> >> I find podcasts with demonstrations are easier for me to use for things like Amadeus Pro. But I would take your write up for sure! >> >> But, please consider doing a podcast showing what you have learned. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hi Eric, >>> Many thanks for sending me the short podcasts about editing with Amadeus Pro. I can now reliably correct my piano playing! For example to remove a prolonged silence I play the track until I hear the start of the silence and place a marker there. I then continue until I hear the first note after the silence and place a second marker there. I then extend the selection to the prior marker. I then press the space bar to hear the selection and adjust it by pressing the a, s, d, or f keys to adjust the left hand end or right hand end of the selection. I press the desired key a few times and then press the space bar to hear the result and then press the desired key again until the result is correct. If I overshoot I can easily reverse that. I then press the e key to hear the effect of removing the selection (I set the preview time in Amadeus preferences to its maximum of 2 seconds). when all is correct I press the delete key to delete the selection and press the command+delete ke > y >> t >>> o remove the markers associated wit the selection. I then save the result in case I mess it up later on. This all sounds very tedious but is surprisingly quick and easy to do. A good trick is to set the horizontal zoom slider so that each press of the a through f keys does a sensible amount of adjustment. >>> >>> Rather than do a podcast on this I would prefer to write it up as a shortish document with fully detailed instructions. If I did that where could I put the document so that it would be useful to others? Is blind cool tech exclusively podcasts or are text documents also acceptable? I prefer documents as it is much easier to locate salient points after the initial read through, whereas with a podcast I have to listen to quite a bit of material I am familiar with tho locate the point of interest. WIth a text document this is easily accomplished by the find command. >>> Anyway when I have a bit more experience of this editing I will write it up or podcast it and save it somewhere. >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Feb 19 20:52:29 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:52:29 -0500 Subject: changing the gain in amadeus pro In-Reply-To: <43486CD9-10D9-4C26-A0EE-8AF3D91DA541@gmail.com> References: <43486CD9-10D9-4C26-A0EE-8AF3D91DA541@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8EA7DCA1-34A0-4029-9A94-C0A6A5D3E2EC@Mac-Access.net> Hi Courtney, I was hoping someone else would answer your question as I'm not sure I can actually find your solution. No one else has tried so here goes. Depending on the input source I've seen different behavior with the gain. With my USB turntable I can not adjust the gain. They are dimmed. With my Griffin iMic or the internal microphone the gain sliders are no longer dimmed. So for my turntable if I want to increase the gain I use the editing functions after the recording is complete. You can select the sound then go to affects and then to amplify. You can then raise and lower the gain. Now this may not be exactly the same as adjusting the gain in advance. But, it may solve your problem. I hope this helps. Eric Caron On Feb 9, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to convert a cassette tape to a MP3, but the gain isn't right, the recorder isn't picking it up in amadeus. How can I fix it, the sliders are dimmed. > Thanks, > Courtney > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Feb 19 21:06:39 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:06:39 -0500 Subject: Amadeus pro and Horizontal and Verticle Zoom Message-ID: <70C98DA1-9242-4371-AAAD-930DAC8D6D87@Mac-Access.net> Amadeus Pro users and Listers, I would like to better understand just what is happening when I adjust the horizontal and vertical Zoom. I change the slider and as far as I can tell nothing different is happening. I wanted a way to speed up movement as I move with the arrow keys through a recording. Maybe it is too subtle for me but I don't notice a difference whether I have the Zoom set to 100 or 10 percent. Tips would be greatly appreciated. eric Caron From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 22:29:06 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:29:06 -0800 Subject: Amadeus pro and Horizontal and Verticle Zoom In-Reply-To: <70C98DA1-9242-4371-AAAD-930DAC8D6D87@Mac-Access.net> References: <70C98DA1-9242-4371-AAAD-930DAC8D6D87@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: You zoom out all the way and when you hold down arrows you will move quickly through file. you zoom in by change the slider and you move slowly as you hold down the arrows. This is useful when editing large audio files. Take care.. On Feb 19, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Amadeus Pro users and Listers, > > I would like to better understand just what is happening when I adjust the horizontal and > vertical Zoom. I change the slider and as far as I can tell nothing different is happening. I wanted a way to speed up movement as I move with the arrow keys through a recording. Maybe it is too subtle for me but I don't notice a difference whether I have the Zoom set to 100 or 10 percent. > > Tips would be greatly appreciated. > > eric Caron > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Sun Feb 19 22:46:05 2012 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:46:05 -0600 Subject: pairing laptop to iPhone Message-ID: <9FC9298AD3824129B3891705A571F7F0@your2c061f0461> Hi, I am trying to pair my laptop with bluetooth to my iPhone, and it tells me that I need to know the security code, probably a 4-digit code, of the iPhone. How do I find this out? I have never set up a security code for my iPhone. Thanks. Glenn From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Feb 19 22:50:29 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:50:29 -0500 Subject: Amadeus pro and Horizontal and Verticle Zoom In-Reply-To: References: <70C98DA1-9242-4371-AAAD-930DAC8D6D87@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Hi Sara, Which direction do I change the slider to increase the speed? The default seems to be 100 percent so is that the maximum speed or do I zoom in by bringing the slider down to zero? Eric Caron On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You zoom out all the way and when you hold down arrows you will move quickly through file. you zoom in by change the slider and you move slowly as you hold down the arrows. This is useful when editing large audio files. > > Take care.. > On Feb 19, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> Amadeus Pro users and Listers, >> >> I would like to better understand just what is happening when I adjust the horizontal and >> vertical Zoom. I change the slider and as far as I can tell nothing different is happening. I wanted a way to speed up movement as I move with the arrow keys through a recording. Maybe it is too subtle for me but I don't notice a difference whether I have the Zoom set to 100 or 10 percent. >> >> Tips would be greatly appreciated. >> >> eric Caron >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 22:54:22 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:54:22 -0800 Subject: Amadeus pro and Horizontal and Verticle Zoom In-Reply-To: References: <70C98DA1-9242-4371-AAAD-930DAC8D6D87@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <936B24AD-AD47-4942-A3A4-2DCA05FB5CFF@gmail.com> Actually don't use the slider. Use shift equals to zoom out and dash key to zoom in. Do this via trial and error. Take care all On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Sara, > > Which direction do I change the slider to increase the speed? The default seems to be 100 percent so is that the maximum speed or do I zoom in by bringing the slider down to zero? > > Eric Caron > On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> You zoom out all the way and when you hold down arrows you will move quickly through file. you zoom in by change the slider and you move slowly as you hold down the arrows. This is useful when editing large audio files. >> >> Take care.. >> On Feb 19, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >> >>> Amadeus Pro users and Listers, >>> >>> I would like to better understand just what is happening when I adjust the horizontal and >>> vertical Zoom. I change the slider and as far as I can tell nothing different is happening. I wanted a way to speed up movement as I move with the arrow keys through a recording. Maybe it is too subtle for me but I don't notice a difference whether I have the Zoom set to 100 or 10 percent. >>> >>> Tips would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> eric Caron >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 23:11:47 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:11:47 -0800 Subject: transferring callanders from one iCloud id to another Message-ID: <9AE58FEF-E744-4778-89CA-3C6A60D5161A@gmail.com> Hello. is this possible? I'm having issues sign in in to iCloud so I figured just creating a new account would do the trick but I have no idea how to transfer my calendar from my main one to a separate .me address Any advice here? It will not keep a local back up which is what I want until I get this thing set up. From stuartyoung at samobile.net Sun Feb 19 23:33:21 2012 From: stuartyoung at samobile.net (Stuart Young) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:33:21 +0000 Subject: pairing laptop to iPhone In-Reply-To: <9FC9298AD3824129B3891705A571F7F0@your2c061f0461> References: <9FC9298AD3824129B3891705A571F7F0@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <2D6929D1-BB8B-4558-B45D-917E316D2FDF@samobile.net> Hi Glenn. I would give 1234 or 0000 a try, as they are normally one of the default paring codes on phones like the IPhone. Regards. Stuart. On 19 Feb 2012, at 22:46, Glenn wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to pair my laptop with bluetooth to my iPhone, and it tells me > that I need to know the security code, probably a 4-digit code, of the > iPhone. > How do I find this out? > I have never set up a security code for my iPhone. > Thanks. > Glenn > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Feb 19 23:25:11 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:25:11 +0000 Subject: pairing laptop to iPhone In-Reply-To: <9FC9298AD3824129B3891705A571F7F0@your2c061f0461> References: <9FC9298AD3824129B3891705A571F7F0@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <7565BE09-E438-4BDC-98EF-67CB2DAE03D8@mac-access.net> Hi Glenn, When you first introduce your iPhone to your keyboard, you'll get a message on the iPhone, asking you to enter a specific code. I think it's four digits in length. After typing this code on the keyboard and pressing Enter, you should be god to go. You'll need to be quite quick though as the security thing has a time out feature. TC :) J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 19 Feb 2012, at 22:46, Glenn wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to pair my laptop with bluetooth to my iPhone, and it tells me > that I need to know the security code, probably a 4-digit code, of the > iPhone. > How do I find this out? > I have never set up a security code for my iPhone. > Thanks. > Glenn > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Mon Feb 20 00:01:04 2012 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:01:04 -0600 Subject: pairing laptop to iPhone References: <9FC9298AD3824129B3891705A571F7F0@your2c061f0461> <7565BE09-E438-4BDC-98EF-67CB2DAE03D8@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <4BCC33F5AF60402B8830BF2A30882BDB@your2c061f0461> Hi, I first tried 0000, and when that did not work, I tried my own set, and that did not work either. The laptop bluetooth program has a place to put in some digits too, that is why I have no idea of what it should be. I will try 1 2 3 4, but I need help, because I am not fast enough. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James AUSTIN" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 5:25 PM Subject: Re: pairing laptop to iPhone Hi Glenn, When you first introduce your iPhone to your keyboard, you'll get a message on the iPhone, asking you to enter a specific code. I think it's four digits in length. After typing this code on the keyboard and pressing Enter, you should be god to go. You'll need to be quite quick though as the security thing has a time out feature. TC :) J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 19 Feb 2012, at 22:46, Glenn wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to pair my laptop with bluetooth to my iPhone, and it tells me > that I need to know the security code, probably a 4-digit code, of the > iPhone. > How do I find this out? > I have never set up a security code for my iPhone. > Thanks. > Glenn > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Mon Feb 20 00:14:10 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:14:10 -0500 Subject: Amadeus pro and Horizontal and Verticle Zoom In-Reply-To: <936B24AD-AD47-4942-A3A4-2DCA05FB5CFF@gmail.com> References: <70C98DA1-9242-4371-AAAD-930DAC8D6D87@Mac-Access.net> <936B24AD-AD47-4942-A3A4-2DCA05FB5CFF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5CD2CEDF-EAC6-4157-8D04-660E2F8280B4@Mac-Access.net> Sarah, Which key stroke makes it possible to move faster? Again I tried these in the past and I didn't notice a change. Eric Caron On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually don't use the slider. Use shift equals to zoom out and dash key to zoom in. Do this via trial and error. > > Take care all > On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> Hi Sara, >> >> Which direction do I change the slider to increase the speed? The default seems to be 100 percent so is that the maximum speed or do I zoom in by bringing the slider down to zero? >> >> Eric Caron >> On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> You zoom out all the way and when you hold down arrows you will move quickly through file. you zoom in by change the slider and you move slowly as you hold down the arrows. This is useful when editing large audio files. >>> >>> Take care.. >>> On Feb 19, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>> >>>> Amadeus Pro users and Listers, >>>> >>>> I would like to better understand just what is happening when I adjust the horizontal and >>>> vertical Zoom. I change the slider and as far as I can tell nothing different is happening. I wanted a way to speed up movement as I move with the arrow keys through a recording. Maybe it is too subtle for me but I don't notice a difference whether I have the Zoom set to 100 or 10 percent. >>>> >>>> Tips would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> eric Caron >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From annakb at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 20 01:24:54 2012 From: annakb at sbcglobal.net (Ann Byrne) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:24:54 -0600 Subject: Getting to the ports to set up e-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <544171.83157.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> On my new/used Mac mini, I can receive mail, but can't send it. I think the problem is with the ports. In mail, under accounts, advanced, I can't find the place to change the port settings. I found it once, and it said 25, 465, 5, 7, radio button, 1 of 2. the second was a custom, and I guess that's what I needed, because instead of 25 it should be 995. But I wanted to double check. And I have *never, not once, been able to get back to that dialog. Can someone tell me please how to get there??? Or am I barking up the wrong mailbox? thanks much, Ann From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 02:00:30 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:00:30 -0800 Subject: Amadeus pro and Horizontal and Verticle Zoom In-Reply-To: <5CD2CEDF-EAC6-4157-8D04-660E2F8280B4@Mac-Access.net> References: <70C98DA1-9242-4371-AAAD-930DAC8D6D87@Mac-Access.net> <936B24AD-AD47-4942-A3A4-2DCA05FB5CFF@gmail.com> <5CD2CEDF-EAC6-4157-8D04-660E2F8280B4@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <19B56E69-3602-4D0E-8426-B96333561E36@gmail.com> dash will alow you to zune out but you have to hold down the arros you cannot just tap. or you will move by 1 second incroments. On Feb 19, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Sarah, > > Which key stroke makes it possible to move faster? Again I tried these in the past and I didn't notice a change. > > Eric Caron > On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually don't use the slider. Use shift equals to zoom out and dash key to zoom in. Do this via trial and error. >> >> Take care all >> On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >> >>> Hi Sara, >>> >>> Which direction do I change the slider to increase the speed? The default seems to be 100 percent so is that the maximum speed or do I zoom in by bringing the slider down to zero? >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> You zoom out all the way and when you hold down arrows you will move quickly through file. you zoom in by change the slider and you move slowly as you hold down the arrows. This is useful when editing large audio files. >>>> >>>> Take care.. >>>> On Feb 19, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>>> >>>>> Amadeus Pro users and Listers, >>>>> >>>>> I would like to better understand just what is happening when I adjust the horizontal and >>>>> vertical Zoom. I change the slider and as far as I can tell nothing different is happening. I wanted a way to speed up movement as I move with the arrow keys through a recording. Maybe it is too subtle for me but I don't notice a difference whether I have the Zoom set to 100 or 10 percent. >>>>> >>>>> Tips would be greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> eric Caron >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 20 02:02:09 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:02:09 -1000 Subject: Getting to the ports to set up e-mail In-Reply-To: <544171.83157.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <544171.83157.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <63294A07-6F1A-4046-A035-0B898C8214A8@mac.com> Hello Anne, I'm not sure how your mail port settings should be configured, but you can get to this information through your Mail preferences settings. 1. From Mail, type Command-Comma to bring up your preferences menu 2. Navigate to the "Accounts" button on your title bar and press it. A quick way to do this is to use Control-F5 to move to the toolbar then tab to the "Accounts" button and press with VO-Space, then tab past the last button to where you here "Accounts, table" 3. Interact with the table to select the account you want to work with then stop interacting with the table 4. Navigate (VO-RIght arrow) to the "Advanced" tab (3 of 3), and select it (VO-Space). These are the advanced settings for the account that you selected, whose basic information was specified on the "Account information" tab (1 of 3). 5. Navigate to the advanced options that include text boxes for items such as IMPA Path Prefix and Port number, and make any necessary changes. 6. Close the Preferences window with Command-W when done. One of the very useful guides in the "Take Control" series of ebooks put out by TidBITS is the one dealing with Apple Mail. The last available version is "Take Control of Apple in Snow Leopard" and there is not yet an update for Lion. I'd wait for the new version to appear, then take advantage of the special 80 per cent discount that members of this list have for purchasing the Take Control guides. To read more about this, check the "Breaking News!" link at the main mac-access.net web page: http://www.mac-access.net/ These guides have all sorts of information that I haven't found as easily in other places. At typical prices to list members of $2 to $3 per guide, and with permanent access to the latest revisions and updates for download in PDF, ePub, etc. formats, I think these are well worth if if you need more extensive information on one of these subjects than you can get from questions on the list. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Ann Byrne wrote: > On my new/used Mac mini, I can receive mail, but can't send it. I think the problem is with the ports. In mail, under accounts, advanced, I can't find the place to change the port settings. I found it once, and it said 25, 465, 5, 7, radio button, 1 of 2. the second was a custom, and I guess that's what I needed, because instead of 25 it should be 995. But I wanted to double check. And I have *never, not once, been able to get back to that dialog. > > Can someone tell me please how to get there??? Or am I barking up the wrong mailbox? > > thanks much, > > Ann > From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 20 02:20:18 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:20:18 -1000 Subject: pairing laptop to iPhone In-Reply-To: <4BCC33F5AF60402B8830BF2A30882BDB@your2c061f0461> References: <9FC9298AD3824129B3891705A571F7F0@your2c061f0461> <7565BE09-E438-4BDC-98EF-67CB2DAE03D8@mac-access.net> <4BCC33F5AF60402B8830BF2A30882BDB@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <0635D690-BEE0-4C27-BC26-18D7D9AC0CB6@mac.com> Hi Glenn, What are you trying to do by pairing your laptop and iPhone? I've only done this when using a program like iKeyboard or Type2Phone that lets me use my laptop keyboard like a Bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone. When I use Bluetooth to pair the iPhone and laptop I don't actually have to type in any PIN numbers. I turn Bluetooth on in the Settings > General > Bluetooth screen of my iPhone. What happens the first time I go to the System Preferences > Bluetooth menu on my laptop to check the boxes so that Bluetooth is turned on and discoverable, after my iPhone shows up as a discovered device and I run the Bluetooth Setup Assistant, is that I'm prompted with a 6 digit code from my laptop's Bluetooth Setup Assistant window, and on my iPhone, under the Settings > General > Bluetooth screen, I get a message "Esther's MacBook Pro would like to pair with your iPhone. Confirm that the PIN code "xxxxxx" is shown on "Esther's MacBook Pro" and there are buttons for "Cancel" and "Pair". All I have to do is double tap the "Pair" button on the screen of my iPhone to apply the PIN code entry on the iPhone that also matches the one that shows up on my laptop. When I pair a Bluetooth keyboard to the iPhone, there's usually a prompt on the iPhone screen to have me type in a four digit PIN on the keyboard and press "Return" to pair the keyboard. The pairing with my laptop is different, since there are six digits to the PIN, but I don't actually have to type anything in -- just double tap the "Pair" button on the message that gives the six digit PIN code. In some instances you may get a message that pairing has failed or timed out even though there is now an entry for "Glenn's MacBook Pro" in the list of devices on the Settings > General > Bluetooth screen for your iPhone. You may try double tapping that entry and see whether your iPhone connects to your laptop. I've read that some desktop Macs actually do require you to type in the six digit PIN to pair to your iPhone in Bluetooth, but for laptops you should just be able to double tap the "Pair" button that appears in the dialog window. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Glenn wrote: > Hi, > I first tried 0000, and when that did not work, I tried my own set, and that > did not work either. > The laptop bluetooth program has a place to put in some digits too, that is > why I have no idea of what it should be. > I will try 1 2 3 4, but I need help, because I am not fast enough. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James AUSTIN" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 5:25 PM > Subject: Re: pairing laptop to iPhone > > > Hi Glenn, > > When you first introduce your iPhone to your keyboard, you'll get a message > on the iPhone, asking you to enter a specific code. I think it's four digits > in length. After typing this code on the keyboard and pressing Enter, you > should be god to go. You'll need to be quite quick though as the security > thing has a time out feature. > > TC :) > J > You can contact me in the following ways: > E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who > you are when you send a request. Thank you > > On 19 Feb 2012, at 22:46, Glenn wrote: > >> Hi, >> I am trying to pair my laptop with bluetooth to my iPhone, and it tells me >> that I need to know the security code, probably a 4-digit code, of the >> iPhone. >> How do I find this out? >> I have never set up a security code for my iPhone. >> Thanks. >> Glenn >> From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Mon Feb 20 02:29:52 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:29:52 -0500 Subject: Reminders app Advanced features Podcast Message-ID: <17D436ED-A46B-4408-8A32-2EB0B33D83CD@Mac-Access.net> Hello Listers, This second Podcast about the Reminders App covers the following additional areas: How to change the order of your Reminder Lists How to better use the Date Tab How to use the Search area How to move between lists in the list tab How to use Siri to make a reminder that actually goes off when desired I've submitted this to applevis.com but in the meantime here is a dropbox link if anyone is interested. eric Caron http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/Reminders%20Application%20Using%20Advanced%20Features.mp3 From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 03:04:40 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:04:40 -0800 Subject: having the iCloud blues. Message-ID: <11717E5A-8FE6-4FF5-A7D9-5954060942A4@gmail.com> Hello to all. Starting friday when i did a clean install i tried to sign in to icloud. It gave me an error which can be found here. Http://Tinypaste.Com/ece6d1dc i then checked that all of my stuff was correct by signing in to apple store and other places. I could. I even checked at the apple id site where i can manage my stuff and all was good. I then checked at the icloud website to see if i could sign in and all was fine. All this with an apple senior adviser. I then proceeded to reboot and try again and got that same message linked above. After that i tried to create a new apple id just for icloud, this after backing up my calendar contacts and more.. I then got this set of error messages from the console. Http://Tinypaste.Com/dd5ef9ea i checked to see that i was signed out but every time i go to mail contacts and calendars in system prefs i get the please enter your password. Then it never recognized it. I then sign out and delete the icloud thing from mail contacts and calendars. It appears every single time i reboot the system, or command tab back to it from some ware else. I'm at a loss as to what to do here. Any suggestions anyone might have? i already did a clean install so it can't be that. It even happened on a broken install so i dunno what['s up there and apple techs i've talked to are stumped as well. Take care all. From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Mon Feb 20 13:25:19 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:25:19 -0500 Subject: Speeding up podcasts on iphone Message-ID: Hello listers, Can someone remind me how I can speed up play back of a podcast or book on the iPhone in the music app? I'm pretty sure I read there was a way but now can't remember. Also, I believe we could not do that in iTunes. Has that changed? I'm sure even the sighted world would like to be able to speed up audio with the pitch controlled. It is a great time saver. Tips appreciated! eric Caron From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 15:10:51 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:10:51 -0500 Subject: Speeding up podcasts on iphone References: Message-ID: <6CF53A2EDF8B4E6FB28137B677A2570A@DD952WB1> Hi Eric, The "album art" button in the center exposes additional options. One of these (if the content is set to spoken media such as Podcast or audiobook) is a toggle control edge about three quarters of an inch below the top. This will cycle between "half, "normal", and "double". Also, the item immediately above "playback speed" labeled "track position" you can either swipe up or down to move by a predictable increment, or use the passthrough gesture and drag right/left to fast forward or rewind. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Caron" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: Speeding up podcasts on iphone > Hello listers, > > Can someone remind me how I can speed up play back of a podcast or book on > the iPhone in the music app? I'm pretty sure I read there was a way but > now can't remember. > > Also, I believe we could not do that in iTunes. Has that changed? > > I'm sure even the sighted world would like to be able to speed up audio > with the pitch controlled. It is a great time saver. > > Tips appreciated! > > eric Caron > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 17:56:56 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:56:56 -0500 Subject: best usb hub to work with a mac? Message-ID: <9187462899910736358@unknownmsgid> Hi, What's the best USB hub that works with a white macbook? Thanks, Courtney Sent from my iPad From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Feb 20 19:36:50 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:36:50 +0000 Subject: Why does this web page not work on Mac Message-ID: Hello, Can someone please have a look at the following web page.... http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/161035 The page displays OK on Safari but the link to logon / register does not work. If I open the context menu while on the link and choose open in new window or open in new tab I get a message about a serious system error. The same problem happens if I use Google Chrome. However if I run Windows on VMWare fusion the logon works fine with firefox (I have not tried Internet Explorer). Alas I am so rusty on Windows I cannot remember how to interact with tables using WindowEyes which I need to do to reply to a post. So I would much rather do the job with Safari. Is there any way to open the logon/ register link using Safari or Chrome? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Mon Feb 20 19:45:44 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:45:44 -0500 Subject: Speeding up podcasts on iphone In-Reply-To: <6CF53A2EDF8B4E6FB28137B677A2570A@DD952WB1> References: <6CF53A2EDF8B4E6FB28137B677A2570A@DD952WB1> Message-ID: <154967EB-EEE9-4C79-8058-66E4D89F1A62@Mac-Access.net> Hi Geoff and others, Thats it, and I realize now that I could not find it because I have turned off hints on my iPhone. I didn't miss them but I see now that I miss some info I may have forgotten. It used to be when I landed on the Album arts button it said something like press to reveal more controls. So am I right that this is not a option on the Mac in iTunes? Thanks again! I'm off to power through some podcast listening. Eric Caron On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Eric, > > The "album art" button in the center exposes additional options. One of these (if the content is set to spoken media such as Podcast or audiobook) is a toggle control edge about three quarters of an inch below the top. This will cycle between "half, "normal", and "double". > > Also, the item immediately above "playback speed" labeled "track position" you can either swipe up or down to move by a predictable increment, or use the passthrough gesture and drag right/left to fast forward or rewind. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Caron" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:25 AM > Subject: Speeding up podcasts on iphone > > >> Hello listers, >> >> Can someone remind me how I can speed up play back of a podcast or book on the iPhone in the music app? I'm pretty sure I read there was a way but now can't remember. >> >> Also, I believe we could not do that in iTunes. Has that changed? >> >> I'm sure even the sighted world would like to be able to speed up audio with the pitch controlled. It is a great time saver. >> >> Tips appreciated! >> >> eric Caron >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jpanarese at mac-access.net Mon Feb 20 19:48:03 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:48:03 -0500 Subject: Why does this web page not work on Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2430EE19-2CC2-4FE4-A84D-D0D8EC31805B@mac-access.net> I am seeing the same thing. Could this be an actual problem with the site and not the browser? Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 20, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > Can someone please have a look at the following web page.... > http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/161035 > > The page displays OK on Safari but the link to logon / register does not work. If I open the context menu while on the link and choose open in new window or open in new tab I get a message about a serious system error. The same problem happens if I use Google Chrome. > > However if I run Windows on VMWare fusion the logon works fine with firefox (I have not tried Internet Explorer). Alas I am so rusty on Windows I cannot remember how to interact with tables using WindowEyes which I need to do to reply to a post. > > So I would much rather do the job with Safari. Is there any way to open the logon/ register link using Safari or Chrome? > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Mon Feb 20 19:52:28 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:52:28 +0100 Subject: Why does this web page not work on Mac In-Reply-To: <2430EE19-2CC2-4FE4-A84D-D0D8EC31805B@mac-access.net> References: <2430EE19-2CC2-4FE4-A84D-D0D8EC31805B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: I would say the problem is with WebKit which means that the site is probably optimised for IE. You should complain about this. Cheers, Anne From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 20 20:09:13 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:09:13 -1000 Subject: Why does this web page not work on Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8E624ACD-F7E7-4179-A6D8-58A25A323C62@mac.com> Hi Paul, OK, this is really weird, but although I couldn't make any of this work on my Mac, even trying the different user agents under the developer's menu (to emulate other browsers) or by using Webkit, I was able to get the link working on my iPhone using Atomic Web. I bet that the free, Lite version of that app would work for you. Anyway, I went to the top level web page address for support, and tried double tapping the link for login/register. On my iPhone it worked! Then I copied the address in the URL location field, and mailed it to myself. I could use that link on my Mac to get to the page for login/register. Here it is: https://account.sonyericsson.com/logininline?cc=gb&lc=en&mya_mode=inline&oauth_token=071205ed-6138-424f-b060-c7ef86f5036f (Don't know whether this will work for you) My conclusion is that there is a bug in the javascript implementation through the browser. I think that it is not a question of VoiceOver's interface. In a pinch, get the free Atomic Web Browser Lite app: http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/atomic-web-browser-lite/id355513788?mt=8 Then do the registration from your iPhone. I went back and tried this on my iPhone with Atomic Web Browser Lite. I have the full version, which is only $0.99. It has a lot of neat features, including support of downloads and the ability to view web pages in the Desktop version. But the feature I was going to try out is its ability to emulate a wide range of browsers. As it turned out, I didn't have to change any settings. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > Can someone please have a look at the following web page.... > http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/161035 > > The page displays OK on Safari but the link to logon / register does not work. If I open the context menu while on the link and choose open in new window or open in new tab I get a message about a serious system error. The same problem happens if I use Google Chrome. > > However if I run Windows on VMWare fusion the logon works fine with firefox (I have not tried Internet Explorer). Alas I am so rusty on Windows I cannot remember how to interact with tables using WindowEyes which I need to do to reply to a post. > > So I would much rather do the job with Safari. Is there any way to open the logon/ register link using Safari or Chrome? > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > From mattchao at verizon.net Mon Feb 20 20:23:07 2012 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:23:07 -0500 Subject: Removing an App from My MacBook Pro Message-ID: <0LZP0067OKMNJJ80@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Folks.I seem to be having a problem removing an app from my MacBook Pro. Problem is as follows: A few months ago, I installed some apps from Nokia for my N86 cellphone. However, I found that this app wasn't all that accessible, so I tried to uninstall it. However, when I found the app in the application folder and tried to uninstall it, I got an error message basically saying I couldn't uninstall it because it was running. However, I can't find the running program to unstinstall. Is there something on the Mac equivalent to Task Manager I can use to find and turn off the program so I can ultimately uninstall it? Thanks in advance for your help. Matthew Chao From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 20 20:24:48 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:24:48 -1000 Subject: Why does this web page not work on Mac In-Reply-To: <8E624ACD-F7E7-4179-A6D8-58A25A323C62@mac.com> References: <8E624ACD-F7E7-4179-A6D8-58A25A323C62@mac.com> Message-ID: <08A765BD-7215-4F20-8E95-F83C8E13D744@mac.com> Hi Paul and Others, Quick update: the web page and link work in Safari on the iPhone, without any other apps. I should have tried this first! I just double tapped on the link in your mail message from my iPhone, then set the rotor to links when the web page opened up in Safari on my iPhone. If you activate the link in Safari on your iPhone it will take you to a login/register page. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul, > > OK, this is really weird, but although I couldn't make any of this work on my Mac, even trying the different user agents under the developer's menu (to emulate other browsers) or by using Webkit, I was able to get the link working on my iPhone using Atomic Web. I bet that the free, Lite version of that app would work for you. > > Anyway, I went to the top level web page address for support, and tried double tapping the link for login/register. On my iPhone it worked! Then I copied the address in the URL location field, and mailed it to myself. I could use that link on my Mac to get to the page for login/register. Here it is: > https://account.sonyericsson.com/logininline?cc=gb&lc=en&mya_mode=inline&oauth_token=071205ed-6138-424f-b060-c7ef86f5036f > (Don't know whether this will work for you) > > My conclusion is that there is a bug in the javascript implementation through the browser. I think that it is not a question of VoiceOver's interface. > > In a pinch, get the free Atomic Web Browser Lite app: > http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/atomic-web-browser-lite/id355513788?mt=8 > > Then do the registration from your iPhone. I went back and tried this on my iPhone with Atomic Web Browser Lite. I have the full version, which is only $0.99. It has a lot of neat features, including support of downloads and the ability to view web pages in the Desktop version. But the feature I was going to try out is its ability to emulate a wide range of browsers. As it turned out, I didn't have to change any settings. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> Can someone please have a look at the following web page.... >> http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/161035 >> >> The page displays OK on Safari but the link to logon / register does not work. If I open the context menu while on the link and choose open in new window or open in new tab I get a message about a serious system error. The same problem happens if I use Google Chrome. >> >> However if I run Windows on VMWare fusion the logon works fine with firefox (I have not tried Internet Explorer). Alas I am so rusty on Windows I cannot remember how to interact with tables using WindowEyes which I need to do to reply to a post. >> >> So I would much rather do the job with Safari. Is there any way to open the logon/ register link using Safari or Chrome? >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 20:33:58 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:33:58 -0800 Subject: Why does this web page not work on Mac In-Reply-To: <08A765BD-7215-4F20-8E95-F83C8E13D744@mac.com> References: <8E624ACD-F7E7-4179-A6D8-58A25A323C62@mac.com> <08A765BD-7215-4F20-8E95-F83C8E13D744@mac.com> Message-ID: <0900EEAF-A93E-4A57-9CE7-F55C2972A053@gmail.com> You can also try lightning as well. that can be found under the mac app store. On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul and Others, > > Quick update: the web page and link work in Safari on the iPhone, without any other apps. I should have tried this first! I just double tapped on the link in your mail message from my iPhone, then set the rotor to links when the web page opened up in Safari on my iPhone. If you activate the link in Safari on your iPhone it will take you to a login/register page. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> OK, this is really weird, but although I couldn't make any of this work on my Mac, even trying the different user agents under the developer's menu (to emulate other browsers) or by using Webkit, I was able to get the link working on my iPhone using Atomic Web. I bet that the free, Lite version of that app would work for you. >> >> Anyway, I went to the top level web page address for support, and tried double tapping the link for login/register. On my iPhone it worked! Then I copied the address in the URL location field, and mailed it to myself. I could use that link on my Mac to get to the page for login/register. Here it is: >> https://account.sonyericsson.com/logininline?cc=gb&lc=en&mya_mode=inline&oauth_token=071205ed-6138-424f-b060-c7ef86f5036f >> (Don't know whether this will work for you) >> >> My conclusion is that there is a bug in the javascript implementation through the browser. I think that it is not a question of VoiceOver's interface. >> >> In a pinch, get the free Atomic Web Browser Lite app: >> http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/atomic-web-browser-lite/id355513788?mt=8 >> >> Then do the registration from your iPhone. I went back and tried this on my iPhone with Atomic Web Browser Lite. I have the full version, which is only $0.99. It has a lot of neat features, including support of downloads and the ability to view web pages in the Desktop version. But the feature I was going to try out is its ability to emulate a wide range of browsers. As it turned out, I didn't have to change any settings. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> Can someone please have a look at the following web page.... >>> http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/161035 >>> >>> The page displays OK on Safari but the link to logon / register does not work. If I open the context menu while on the link and choose open in new window or open in new tab I get a message about a serious system error. The same problem happens if I use Google Chrome. >>> >>> However if I run Windows on VMWare fusion the logon works fine with firefox (I have not tried Internet Explorer). Alas I am so rusty on Windows I cannot remember how to interact with tables using WindowEyes which I need to do to reply to a post. >>> >>> So I would much rather do the job with Safari. Is there any way to open the logon/ register link using Safari or Chrome? >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 20:35:52 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:35:52 -0800 Subject: Removing an App from My MacBook Pro In-Reply-To: <0LZP0067OKMNJJ80@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0LZP0067OKMNJJ80@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <324705D3-7B01-476F-B428-8E7AD13FE418@gmail.com> go to utilities, the activity monitor and find the process in question then do a cmd shift q to quit. if that does not work try cmd option q. My computer is a bit slow right now so I'm not going to try and run another task lol! On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Folks.I seem to be having a problem removing an app from my MacBook Pro. Problem is as follows: > > A few months ago, I installed some apps from Nokia for my N86 cellphone. However, I found that this app wasn't all that accessible, so I tried to uninstall it. However, when I found the app in the application folder and tried to uninstall it, I got an error message basically saying I couldn't uninstall it because it was running. However, I can't find the running program to unstinstall. Is there something on the Mac equivalent to Task Manager I can use to find and turn off the program so I can ultimately uninstall it? Thanks in advance for your help. > > Matthew Chao > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mattchao at verizon.net Mon Feb 20 20:38:20 2012 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:38:20 -0500 Subject: Removing an App from My MacBook Pro In-Reply-To: <324705D3-7B01-476F-B428-8E7AD13FE418@gmail.com> References: <0LZP0067OKMNJJ80@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> <324705D3-7B01-476F-B428-8E7AD13FE418@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0LZP004P7LC11I71@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Sarah. Thanks. Will give it a try. Matthew Chao At 03:35 PM 2/20/2012, you wrote: >go to utilities, the activity monitor and find the process in >question then do a cmd shift q to quit. if that does not work try cmd option q. > >My computer is a bit slow right now so I'm not going to try and run >another task lol! >On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > > > Hi, Folks.I seem to be having a problem removing an app from my > MacBook Pro. Problem is as follows: > > > > A few months ago, I installed some apps from Nokia for my N86 > cellphone. However, I found that this app wasn't all that > accessible, so I tried to uninstall it. However, when I found the > app in the application folder and tried to uninstall it, I got an > error message basically saying I couldn't uninstall it because it > was running. However, I can't find the running program to > unstinstall. Is there something on the Mac equivalent to Task > Manager I can use to find and turn off the program so I can > ultimately uninstall it? Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > Matthew Chao > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 20 20:42:24 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:42:24 -1000 Subject: Why does this web page not work on Mac In-Reply-To: <0900EEAF-A93E-4A57-9CE7-F55C2972A053@gmail.com> References: <8E624ACD-F7E7-4179-A6D8-58A25A323C62@mac.com> <08A765BD-7215-4F20-8E95-F83C8E13D744@mac.com> <0900EEAF-A93E-4A57-9CE7-F55C2972A053@gmail.com> Message-ID: <59931288-4BAB-451F-ADB3-D7512339F4FB@mac.com> Hi Sarah, Did you try Paul's web site link in Lightning? I just went to the Mac App Store, and while Lightning seems to get good ratings, the first review said: Given how fast Webkit-based browsers are, and the way this particular browser is set up for speed, it's no suprise that this is one fast little browser. I like it, and can see a place for it in my toolbox, but I often find that links on a page I navigate to are "dead"?you can't click on them. But that's the only real problem I've encountered with the program, so I hope the developer continues to work on getting the wrinkles out. When I need to fire up a browser for a quick search, or some fast research, I'd be apt to use this, rather than wait for Safari, or Firefox to load, and this will still be faster than either for many kinds of web browsing. Since Paul is hoping to use the links on his web page, it's a little disconcerting to read that the links are often "dead" using this browser. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You can also try lightning as well. that can be found under the mac app store. > On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Paul and Others, >> >> Quick update: the web page and link work in Safari on the iPhone, without any other apps. I should have tried this first! I just double tapped on the link in your mail message from my iPhone, then set the rotor to links when the web page opened up in Safari on my iPhone. If you activate the link in Safari on your iPhone it will take you to a login/register page. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> OK, this is really weird, but although I couldn't make any of this work on my Mac, even trying the different user agents under the developer's menu (to emulate other browsers) or by using Webkit, I was able to get the link working on my iPhone using Atomic Web. I bet that the free, Lite version of that app would work for you. >>> >>> Anyway, I went to the top level web page address for support, and tried double tapping the link for login/register. On my iPhone it worked! Then I copied the address in the URL location field, and mailed it to myself. I could use that link on my Mac to get to the page for login/register. Here it is: >>> https://account.sonyericsson.com/logininline?cc=gb&lc=en&mya_mode=inline&oauth_token=071205ed-6138-424f-b060-c7ef86f5036f >>> (Don't know whether this will work for you) >>> >>> My conclusion is that there is a bug in the javascript implementation through the browser. I think that it is not a question of VoiceOver's interface. >>> >>> In a pinch, get the free Atomic Web Browser Lite app: >>> http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/atomic-web-browser-lite/id355513788?mt=8 >>> >>> Then do the registration from your iPhone. I went back and tried this on my iPhone with Atomic Web Browser Lite. I have the full version, which is only $0.99. It has a lot of neat features, including support of downloads and the ability to view web pages in the Desktop version. But the feature I was going to try out is its ability to emulate a wide range of browsers. As it turned out, I didn't have to change any settings. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> Can someone please have a look at the following web page.... >>>> http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/161035 >>>> >>>> The page displays OK on Safari but the link to logon / register does not work. If I open the context menu while on the link and choose open in new window or open in new tab I get a message about a serious system error. The same problem happens if I use Google Chrome. >>>> >>>> However if I run Windows on VMWare fusion the logon works fine with firefox (I have not tried Internet Explorer). Alas I am so rusty on Windows I cannot remember how to interact with tables using WindowEyes which I need to do to reply to a post. >>>> >>>> So I would much rather do the job with Safari. Is there any way to open the logon/ register link using Safari or Chrome? >>>> >>>> Many thanks. >>>> >>>> Paul Hopewell >>>> >>> >> From mattchao at verizon.net Mon Feb 20 20:48:17 2012 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:48:17 -0500 Subject: Removing an App from My MacBook Pro In-Reply-To: <324705D3-7B01-476F-B428-8E7AD13FE418@gmail.com> References: <0LZP0067OKMNJJ80@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> <324705D3-7B01-476F-B428-8E7AD13FE418@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0LZP00IHFLSMI631@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Sarah. This list is GREAT! Thanks for the info; I did what you suggested, and the app is gon! Had to do the second option and force-quit. Then, deleted the app with no problem. Kudos to this group! Matthew Chao At 03:35 PM 2/20/2012, you wrote: >go to utilities, the activity monitor and find the process in >question then do a cmd shift q to quit. if that does not work try cmd option q. > >My computer is a bit slow right now so I'm not going to try and run >another task lol! >On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Matthew Chao wrote: > > > Hi, Folks.I seem to be having a problem removing an app from my > MacBook Pro. Problem is as follows: > > > > A few months ago, I installed some apps from Nokia for my N86 > cellphone. However, I found that this app wasn't all that > accessible, so I tried to uninstall it. However, when I found the > app in the application folder and tried to uninstall it, I got an > error message basically saying I couldn't uninstall it because it > was running. However, I can't find the running program to > unstinstall. Is there something on the Mac equivalent to Task > Manager I can use to find and turn off the program so I can > ultimately uninstall it? Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > Matthew Chao > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Mon Feb 20 20:46:43 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:46:43 -0400 Subject: CrushFtp Server. Message-ID: Hi Folks: Is CrushFTP server accessible. If not, any recommendations? Thanks all over the place. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6900 (20120220) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 21:17:03 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:17:03 -0800 Subject: CrushFtp Server. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10AE1C6F-619A-49AB-B4D6-0C87AECC157B@gmail.com> I use transmit. I've never used the other ftp server you speak of. Take care. On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Is CrushFTP server accessible. If not, any recommendations? > > Thanks all over the place. > > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6900 (20120220) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 21:18:04 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:18:04 -0800 Subject: Why does this web page not work on Mac In-Reply-To: <59931288-4BAB-451F-ADB3-D7512339F4FB@mac.com> References: <8E624ACD-F7E7-4179-A6D8-58A25A323C62@mac.com> <08A765BD-7215-4F20-8E95-F83C8E13D744@mac.com> <0900EEAF-A93E-4A57-9CE7-F55C2972A053@gmail.com> <59931288-4BAB-451F-ADB3-D7512339F4FB@mac.com> Message-ID: <7DB349D2-5A8E-40B1-8502-9ECD681F3B22@gmail.com> I've tried websites that don't work at all in webkit in lightning and they work fine. It is a neat little jem I use for my router's page for example. Take care. On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Did you try Paul's web site link in Lightning? I just went to the Mac App Store, and while Lightning seems to get good ratings, the first review said: > Given how fast Webkit-based browsers are, and the way this particular browser is set up for speed, it's no suprise that this is one fast little browser. I like it, and can see a place for it in my toolbox, but I often find that links on a page I navigate to are "dead"?you can't click on them. But that's the only real problem I've encountered with the program, so I hope the developer continues to work on getting the wrinkles out. When I need to fire up a browser for a quick search, or some fast research, I'd be apt to use this, rather than wait for Safari, or Firefox to load, and this will still be faster than either for many kinds of web browsing. > > Since Paul is hoping to use the links on his web page, it's a little disconcerting to read that the links are often "dead" using this browser. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> You can also try lightning as well. that can be found under the mac app store. >> On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul and Others, >>> >>> Quick update: the web page and link work in Safari on the iPhone, without any other apps. I should have tried this first! I just double tapped on the link in your mail message from my iPhone, then set the rotor to links when the web page opened up in Safari on my iPhone. If you activate the link in Safari on your iPhone it will take you to a login/register page. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Paul, >>>> >>>> OK, this is really weird, but although I couldn't make any of this work on my Mac, even trying the different user agents under the developer's menu (to emulate other browsers) or by using Webkit, I was able to get the link working on my iPhone using Atomic Web. I bet that the free, Lite version of that app would work for you. >>>> >>>> Anyway, I went to the top level web page address for support, and tried double tapping the link for login/register. On my iPhone it worked! Then I copied the address in the URL location field, and mailed it to myself. I could use that link on my Mac to get to the page for login/register. Here it is: >>>> https://account.sonyericsson.com/logininline?cc=gb&lc=en&mya_mode=inline&oauth_token=071205ed-6138-424f-b060-c7ef86f5036f >>>> (Don't know whether this will work for you) >>>> >>>> My conclusion is that there is a bug in the javascript implementation through the browser. I think that it is not a question of VoiceOver's interface. >>>> >>>> In a pinch, get the free Atomic Web Browser Lite app: >>>> http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/atomic-web-browser-lite/id355513788?mt=8 >>>> >>>> Then do the registration from your iPhone. I went back and tried this on my iPhone with Atomic Web Browser Lite. I have the full version, which is only $0.99. It has a lot of neat features, including support of downloads and the ability to view web pages in the Desktop version. But the feature I was going to try out is its ability to emulate a wide range of browsers. As it turned out, I didn't have to change any settings. >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> Can someone please have a look at the following web page.... >>>>> http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/161035 >>>>> >>>>> The page displays OK on Safari but the link to logon / register does not work. If I open the context menu while on the link and choose open in new window or open in new tab I get a message about a serious system error. The same problem happens if I use Google Chrome. >>>>> >>>>> However if I run Windows on VMWare fusion the logon works fine with firefox (I have not tried Internet Explorer). Alas I am so rusty on Windows I cannot remember how to interact with tables using WindowEyes which I need to do to reply to a post. >>>>> >>>>> So I would much rather do the job with Safari. Is there any way to open the logon/ register link using Safari or Chrome? >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Paul Hopewell >>>>> >>>> >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 20 21:28:25 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:28:25 -1000 Subject: Lightning Web Browser [was Re: Why does this web page not work on Mac] In-Reply-To: <7DB349D2-5A8E-40B1-8502-9ECD681F3B22@gmail.com> References: <8E624ACD-F7E7-4179-A6D8-58A25A323C62@mac.com> <08A765BD-7215-4F20-8E95-F83C8E13D744@mac.com> <0900EEAF-A93E-4A57-9CE7-F55C2972A053@gmail.com> <59931288-4BAB-451F-ADB3-D7512339F4FB@mac.com> <7DB349D2-5A8E-40B1-8502-9ECD681F3B22@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah, Thanks for the tip. I've purchased Lightning Web Browser from the Mac App Store as an alternative to Webkit, Safari, and Chrome, and it does seem fast. But I'll just mention for Paul that trying his web site in Lightning, gave the same errors I got with Webkit and Safari. So my alternative suggestion for him still holds: use Safari on his iPhone to access the login/register site via the web page link for that Sony Ericsson support page. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 20, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I've tried websites that don't work at all in webkit in lightning and they work fine. It is a neat little jem I use for my router's page for example. > > Take care. > On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Did you try Paul's web site link in Lightning? I just went to the Mac App Store, and while Lightning seems to get good ratings, the first review said: >> Given how fast Webkit-based browsers are, and the way this particular browser is set up for speed, it's no suprise that this is one fast little browser. I like it, and can see a place for it in my toolbox, but I often find that links on a page I navigate to are "dead"?you can't click on them. But that's the only real problem I've encountered with the program, so I hope the developer continues to work on getting the wrinkles out. When I need to fire up a browser for a quick search, or some fast research, I'd be apt to use this, rather than wait for Safari, or Firefox to load, and this will still be faster than either for many kinds of web browsing. >> >> Since Paul is hoping to use the links on his web page, it's a little disconcerting to read that the links are often "dead" using this browser. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> You can also try lightning as well. that can be found under the mac app store. >>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Paul and Others, >>>> >>>> Quick update: the web page and link work in Safari on the iPhone, without any other apps. I should have tried this first! I just double tapped on the link in your mail message from my iPhone, then set the rotor to links when the web page opened up in Safari on my iPhone. If you activate the link in Safari on your iPhone it will take you to a login/register page. >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Esther wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Paul, >>>>> >>>>> OK, this is really weird, but although I couldn't make any of this work on my Mac, even trying the different user agents under the developer's menu (to emulate other browsers) or by using Webkit, I was able to get the link working on my iPhone using Atomic Web. I bet that the free, Lite version of that app would work for you. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, I went to the top level web page address for support, and tried double tapping the link for login/register. On my iPhone it worked! Then I copied the address in the URL location field, and mailed it to myself. I could use that link on my Mac to get to the page for login/register. Here it is: >>>>> https://account.sonyericsson.com/logininline?cc=gb&lc=en&mya_mode=inline&oauth_token=071205ed-6138-424f-b060-c7ef86f5036f >>>>> (Don't know whether this will work for you) >>>>> >>>>> My conclusion is that there is a bug in the javascript implementation through the browser. I think that it is not a question of VoiceOver's interface. >>>>> >>>>> In a pinch, get the free Atomic Web Browser Lite app: >>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/atomic-web-browser-lite/id355513788?mt=8 >>>>> >>>>> Then do the registration from your iPhone. I went back and tried this on my iPhone with Atomic Web Browser Lite. I have the full version, which is only $0.99. It has a lot of neat features, including support of downloads and the ability to view web pages in the Desktop version. But the feature I was going to try out is its ability to emulate a wide range of browsers. As it turned out, I didn't have to change any settings. >>>>> >>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Esther >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> Can someone please have a look at the following web page.... >>>>>> http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/161035 >>>>>> >>>>>> The page displays OK on Safari but the link to logon / register does not work. If I open the context menu while on the link and choose open in new window or open in new tab I get a message about a serious system error. The same problem happens if I use Google Chrome. >>>>>> >>>>>> However if I run Windows on VMWare fusion the logon works fine with firefox (I have not tried Internet Explorer). Alas I am so rusty on Windows I cannot remember how to interact with tables using WindowEyes which I need to do to reply to a post. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I would much rather do the job with Safari. Is there any way to open the logon/ register link using Safari or Chrome? >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul Hopewell >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 21:59:57 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:59:57 -0800 Subject: Lightning Web Browser [was Re: Why does this web page not work on Mac] In-Reply-To: References: <8E624ACD-F7E7-4179-A6D8-58A25A323C62@mac.com> <08A765BD-7215-4F20-8E95-F83C8E13D744@mac.com> <0900EEAF-A93E-4A57-9CE7-F55C2972A053@gmail.com> <59931288-4BAB-451F-ADB3-D7512339F4FB@mac.com> <7DB349D2-5A8E-40B1-8502-9ECD681F3B22@gmail.com> Message-ID: <75FF99C5-7AE5-4F69-8799-5315219AD5E9@gmail.com> Ah Well hope they can get the site working for webkit/safari on the computer. good luck to all. On Feb 20, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Thanks for the tip. I've purchased Lightning Web Browser from the Mac App Store as an alternative to Webkit, Safari, and Chrome, and it does seem fast. But I'll just mention for Paul that trying his web site in Lightning, gave the same errors I got with Webkit and Safari. So my alternative suggestion for him still holds: use Safari on his iPhone to access the login/register site via the web page link for that Sony Ericsson support page. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 20, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I've tried websites that don't work at all in webkit in lightning and they work fine. It is a neat little jem I use for my router's page for example. >> >> Take care. >> On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah, >>> >>> Did you try Paul's web site link in Lightning? I just went to the Mac App Store, and while Lightning seems to get good ratings, the first review said: >>> Given how fast Webkit-based browsers are, and the way this particular browser is set up for speed, it's no suprise that this is one fast little browser. I like it, and can see a place for it in my toolbox, but I often find that links on a page I navigate to are "dead"?you can't click on them. But that's the only real problem I've encountered with the program, so I hope the developer continues to work on getting the wrinkles out. When I need to fire up a browser for a quick search, or some fast research, I'd be apt to use this, rather than wait for Safari, or Firefox to load, and this will still be faster than either for many kinds of web browsing. >>> >>> Since Paul is hoping to use the links on his web page, it's a little disconcerting to read that the links are often "dead" using this browser. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> You can also try lightning as well. that can be found under the mac app store. >>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Esther wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Paul and Others, >>>>> >>>>> Quick update: the web page and link work in Safari on the iPhone, without any other apps. I should have tried this first! I just double tapped on the link in your mail message from my iPhone, then set the rotor to links when the web page opened up in Safari on my iPhone. If you activate the link in Safari on your iPhone it will take you to a login/register page. >>>>> >>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Esther >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Esther wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Paul, >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, this is really weird, but although I couldn't make any of this work on my Mac, even trying the different user agents under the developer's menu (to emulate other browsers) or by using Webkit, I was able to get the link working on my iPhone using Atomic Web. I bet that the free, Lite version of that app would work for you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, I went to the top level web page address for support, and tried double tapping the link for login/register. On my iPhone it worked! Then I copied the address in the URL location field, and mailed it to myself. I could use that link on my Mac to get to the page for login/register. Here it is: >>>>>> https://account.sonyericsson.com/logininline?cc=gb&lc=en&mya_mode=inline&oauth_token=071205ed-6138-424f-b060-c7ef86f5036f >>>>>> (Don't know whether this will work for you) >>>>>> >>>>>> My conclusion is that there is a bug in the javascript implementation through the browser. I think that it is not a question of VoiceOver's interface. >>>>>> >>>>>> In a pinch, get the free Atomic Web Browser Lite app: >>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/atomic-web-browser-lite/id355513788?mt=8 >>>>>> >>>>>> Then do the registration from your iPhone. I went back and tried this on my iPhone with Atomic Web Browser Lite. I have the full version, which is only $0.99. It has a lot of neat features, including support of downloads and the ability to view web pages in the Desktop version. But the feature I was going to try out is its ability to emulate a wide range of browsers. As it turned out, I didn't have to change any settings. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Esther >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> Can someone please have a look at the following web page.... >>>>>>> http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/161035 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The page displays OK on Safari but the link to logon / register does not work. If I open the context menu while on the link and choose open in new window or open in new tab I get a message about a serious system error. The same problem happens if I use Google Chrome. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However if I run Windows on VMWare fusion the logon works fine with firefox (I have not tried Internet Explorer). Alas I am so rusty on Windows I cannot remember how to interact with tables using WindowEyes which I need to do to reply to a post. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I would much rather do the job with Safari. Is there any way to open the logon/ register link using Safari or Chrome? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul Hopewell >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 10:05:13 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:05:13 +0000 Subject: linked in accessibility Message-ID: <310FE245-93E1-457A-9C7E-E54D846A2097@gmail.com> hi all, On linked in can anyone see where to add skills, your headline etc. using safari under lion? i see add position and add eduction links etc. on my profile but nowhere to add a headline regards, WIll From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Tue Feb 21 12:33:20 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:33:20 +0000 Subject: Why does this web page not work on Mac In-Reply-To: <59931288-4BAB-451F-ADB3-D7512339F4FB@mac.com> References: <8E624ACD-F7E7-4179-A6D8-58A25A323C62@mac.com> <08A765BD-7215-4F20-8E95-F83C8E13D744@mac.com> <0900EEAF-A93E-4A57-9CE7-F55C2972A053@gmail.com> <59931288-4BAB-451F-ADB3-D7512339F4FB@mac.com> Message-ID: <02E95253-B074-4A98-A446-12BDA4EFD0BA@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, Thanks to Esther and Sarah for your comments on this problem. I have installed the lightening browser and will play with it. I have found that I can get to the login page using Google chrome as follows. I use the tab key to locate the login link and then press Enter. that brings up the login page. As I do have a user ID I was able to login. However that did not help me much as I could not then figure out how to add a post to the forum. There were lots of links to reply to existing posts but none of them did anything! Running Windows XP with WindowEyes under VMWare fusion I was able to activate a reply link but I could not then figure out how to create the reply. There were lots of edit related links to e.g. make text bold but no edit area in which to enter the text. The Gremlins are definitely against my desire to complain about this Android phone or to even find out which wireless routers it actually works with. I will now try an Email to Sony support team but will not hold my breath on getting a reply! It is my wife's Android phone. My iPhone is wonderful by comparison! Best regards.... Paul Hopewell On 20 Feb 2012, at 20:42, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Did you try Paul's web site link in Lightning? I just went to the Mac App Store, and while Lightning seems to get good ratings, the first review said: > Given how fast Webkit-based browsers are, and the way this particular browser is set up for speed, it's no suprise that this is one fast little browser. I like it, and can see a place for it in my toolbox, but I often find that links on a page I navigate to are "dead"?you can't click on them. But that's the only real problem I've encountered with the program, so I hope the developer continues to work on getting the wrinkles out. When I need to fire up a browser for a quick search, or some fast research, I'd be apt to use this, rather than wait for Safari, or Firefox to load, and this will still be faster than either for many kinds of web browsing. > > Since Paul is hoping to use the links on his web page, it's a little disconcerting to read that the links are often "dead" using this browser. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> You can also try lightning as well. that can be found under the mac app store. >> On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul and Others, >>> >>> Quick update: the web page and link work in Safari on the iPhone, without any other apps. I should have tried this first! I just double tapped on the link in your mail message from my iPhone, then set the rotor to links when the web page opened up in Safari on my iPhone. If you activate the link in Safari on your iPhone it will take you to a login/register page. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Paul, >>>> >>>> OK, this is really weird, but although I couldn't make any of this work on my Mac, even trying the different user agents under the developer's menu (to emulate other browsers) or by using Webkit, I was able to get the link working on my iPhone using Atomic Web. I bet that the free, Lite version of that app would work for you. >>>> >>>> Anyway, I went to the top level web page address for support, and tried double tapping the link for login/register. On my iPhone it worked! Then I copied the address in the URL location field, and mailed it to myself. I could use that link on my Mac to get to the page for login/register. Here it is: >>>> https://account.sonyericsson.com/logininline?cc=gb&lc=en&mya_mode=inline&oauth_token=071205ed-6138-424f-b060-c7ef86f5036f >>>> (Don't know whether this will work for you) >>>> >>>> My conclusion is that there is a bug in the javascript implementation through the browser. I think that it is not a question of VoiceOver's interface. >>>> >>>> In a pinch, get the free Atomic Web Browser Lite app: >>>> http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/atomic-web-browser-lite/id355513788?mt=8 >>>> >>>> Then do the registration from your iPhone. I went back and tried this on my iPhone with Atomic Web Browser Lite. I have the full version, which is only $0.99. It has a lot of neat features, including support of downloads and the ability to view web pages in the Desktop version. But the feature I was going to try out is its ability to emulate a wide range of browsers. As it turned out, I didn't have to change any settings. >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> Can someone please have a look at the following web page.... >>>>> http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/161035 >>>>> >>>>> The page displays OK on Safari but the link to logon / register does not work. If I open the context menu while on the link and choose open in new window or open in new tab I get a message about a serious system error. The same problem happens if I use Google Chrome. >>>>> >>>>> However if I run Windows on VMWare fusion the logon works fine with firefox (I have not tried Internet Explorer). Alas I am so rusty on Windows I cannot remember how to interact with tables using WindowEyes which I need to do to reply to a post. >>>>> >>>>> So I would much rather do the job with Safari. Is there any way to open the logon/ register link using Safari or Chrome? >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Paul Hopewell >>>>> >>>> >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Feb 21 14:18:23 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:18:23 -0400 Subject: Athentication window problem. Message-ID: Hi Folks: Now and then, I get an authentication window popup asking me to enter my password when I install a program. The problem is, I can't bring the window in to focus. Is there a procedure for acomplishing this task? Thanks all over the place gang. From zkline at speedpost.net Tue Feb 21 14:23:38 2012 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:23:38 -0800 Subject: Athentication window problem. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jim, In a case like this, VO-F2, the Window chooser, is your friend. Press it twice rapidly and you'll get a nice menu listing all your open windows, including the authentication dialog. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 21, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Now and then, I get an authentication window popup asking me to enter my password when I install a program. The problem is, I can't bring the window in to focus. Is there a procedure for acomplishing this task? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Feb 21 14:30:37 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:30:37 -0400 Subject: Athentication window problem. References: Message-ID: Hey Zac: Thanks all over the place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachary Kline" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:23 AM Subject: Re: Athentication window problem. > Hi Jim, > In a case like this, VO-F2, the Window chooser, is your friend. Press it > twice rapidly and you'll get a nice menu listing all your open windows, > including the authentication dialog. > Hope this helps, > Zack. > On Feb 21, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> Now and then, I get an authentication window popup asking me to enter my >> password when I install a program. The problem is, I can't bring the >> window in to focus. Is there a procedure for acomplishing this task? >> >> Thanks all over the place gang. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Fri Feb 17 11:09:43 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:09:43 +1100 Subject: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream? In-Reply-To: References: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <27C13783-EFF8-4075-985E-749F31BEB7FB@gmail.com> Hi. ok so if i then search for the stations i want and get the urls is there a way to bookmark them in itunes? thanks Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl On 17/02/2012, at 4:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I think in iTunes radio it is only by genre. Not country. I could be wrong though as I'm new to it myself. > > Take care. > On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > >> Hi. the subject line says it all. was wondering if there is an accessible app to listen to and record internet radio? I use klango in windows but as far as i can tell from google there isn't a mac version of klango yet. so is there something mainstream? something i can use to search for stations and play and record the stream would be really good. speaking of which, is there a way to see radio streams in itunes via country? e.g. australian streams etc? >> >> thanks. >> >> Maria Chapman >> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> will get you fb as well as email >> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. > Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.trethowan at me.com Tue Feb 21 16:07:22 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:07:22 +1100 Subject: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream? In-Reply-To: <27C13783-EFF8-4075-985E-749F31BEB7FB@gmail.com> References: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> <27C13783-EFF8-4075-985E-749F31BEB7FB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <07001C30-8427-48D6-9FC5-9F01BB5D1B99@me.com> Sorry, I haven't been following this thread much. You're probably right about iTunes only letting you search by gemra and that's a bit of a problem. Now you asked about recording radio streams you search for? If you're using iTunes on a Mac you could use Audio Hijack Pro to record the stream being played by iTunes. On 17/02/2012, at 10:09 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > Hi. ok so if i then search for the stations i want and get the urls is there a way to bookmark them in itunes? > > thanks > > Maria Chapman > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > will get you fb as well as email > skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl > > > > > On 17/02/2012, at 4:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I think in iTunes radio it is only by genre. Not country. I could be wrong though as I'm new to it myself. >> >> Take care. >> On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: >> >>> Hi. the subject line says it all. was wondering if there is an accessible app to listen to and record internet radio? I use klango in windows but as far as i can tell from google there isn't a mac version of klango yet. so is there something mainstream? something i can use to search for stations and play and record the stream would be really good. speaking of which, is there a way to see radio streams in itunes via country? e.g. australian streams etc? >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> Maria Chapman >>> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>> will get you fb as well as email >>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. >> Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 16:48:18 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:48:18 +1100 Subject: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream? In-Reply-To: <07001C30-8427-48D6-9FC5-9F01BB5D1B99@me.com> References: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> <27C13783-EFF8-4075-985E-749F31BEB7FB@gmail.com> <07001C30-8427-48D6-9FC5-9F01BB5D1B99@me.com> Message-ID: Hi dane. I could just go find the stations i want, but how can i bookmark them in itunes so i can play them later? thanks. Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl On 22/02/2012, at 3:07 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Sorry, I haven't been following this thread much. > > You're probably right about iTunes only letting you search by gemra and that's a bit of a problem. > > Now you asked about recording radio streams you search for? If you're using iTunes on a Mac you could use Audio Hijack Pro to record the stream being played by iTunes. > > > On 17/02/2012, at 10:09 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > >> Hi. ok so if i then search for the stations i want and get the urls is there a way to bookmark them in itunes? >> >> thanks >> >> Maria Chapman >> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> will get you fb as well as email >> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >> >> >> >> >> On 17/02/2012, at 4:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I think in iTunes radio it is only by genre. Not country. I could be wrong though as I'm new to it myself. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: >>> >>>> Hi. the subject line says it all. was wondering if there is an accessible app to listen to and record internet radio? I use klango in windows but as far as i can tell from google there isn't a mac version of klango yet. so is there something mainstream? something i can use to search for stations and play and record the stream would be really good. speaking of which, is there a way to see radio streams in itunes via country? e.g. australian streams etc? >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> Maria Chapman >>>> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>> will get you fb as well as email >>>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> Sarah Alawami: owner and founder of WICS Radio America. >>> Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for listening >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Tue Feb 21 17:40:52 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:40:52 -0500 Subject: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream? In-Reply-To: References: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> <27C13783-EFF8-4075-985E-749F31BEB7FB@gmail.com> <07001C30-8427-48D6-9FC5-9F01BB5D1B99@me.com> Message-ID: <9031842A-395D-4043-95F0-4D4AA031837A@me.com> I save my preferred readio streams in iTunes playlists. There are several ways to do this. If you've located and highlighted a stream you want to save into a new playlist, simply press Command+Shift+N and iTunes will present a dialog box allowing you to create and name a new playlist, and it will automatically place a link to that stream in that playlist. Playlists will be listed in your iTunes sources list. If you want to add a new stream to an existing playlist, you can simply use the copy and paste functions. HTH, Bryan On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: > Hi dane. I could just go find the stations i want, but how can i bookmark them in itunes so i can play them later? From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 17:45:24 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:45:24 +1100 Subject: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream? In-Reply-To: <9031842A-395D-4043-95F0-4D4AA031837A@me.com> References: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> <27C13783-EFF8-4075-985E-749F31BEB7FB@gmail.com> <07001C30-8427-48D6-9FC5-9F01BB5D1B99@me.com> <9031842A-395D-4043-95F0-4D4AA031837A@me.com> Message-ID: <4E4A579B-9B62-4DCE-BDA0-2CF90EEC3B24@gmail.com> Hi. if i add the stream to an existing play list, can I select an individual stream later on? so for example could i have a play list of say australian stations and maybe another one with my favourite internet stations etc? thanks. Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl On 22/02/2012, at 4:40 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > I save my preferred readio streams in iTunes playlists. There are several ways to do this. If you've located and highlighted a stream you want to save into a new playlist, simply press Command+Shift+N and iTunes will present a dialog box allowing you to create and name a new playlist, and it will automatically place a link to that stream in that playlist. Playlists will be listed in your iTunes sources list. > > If you want to add a new stream to an existing playlist, you can simply use the copy and paste functions. > > HTH, > Bryan > > On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: >> Hi dane. I could just go find the stations i want, but how can i bookmark them in itunes so i can play them later? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Tue Feb 21 18:11:18 2012 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:11:18 +0000 Subject: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream? In-Reply-To: <4E4A579B-9B62-4DCE-BDA0-2CF90EEC3B24@gmail.com> References: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> <27C13783-EFF8-4075-985E-749F31BEB7FB@gmail.com> <07001C30-8427-48D6-9FC5-9F01BB5D1B99@me.com> <9031842A-395D-4043-95F0-4D4AA031837A@me.com> <4E4A579B-9B62-4DCE-BDA0-2CF90EEC3B24@gmail.com> Message-ID: <861E26DE-395F-4022-B6DC-91DE33E9B075@virginmedia.com> Hi Maria! Well you can make as many playlist's as you wish! And another way to add to a playlist is to open vo+shift+m and in that menu you will find add to playlist sub menu and just arrow to the playlist you wish to add the stream your on and press vo space and it will be added! hth Colin On 21 Feb 2012, at 17:45, Maria Chapman wrote: > Hi. if i add the stream to an existing play list, can I select an individual stream later on? so for example could i have a play list of say australian stations and maybe another one with my favourite internet stations etc? > > thanks. > > > Maria Chapman > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > will get you fb as well as email > skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl > > > > > On 22/02/2012, at 4:40 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> I save my preferred readio streams in iTunes playlists. There are several ways to do this. If you've located and highlighted a stream you want to save into a new playlist, simply press Command+Shift+N and iTunes will present a dialog box allowing you to create and name a new playlist, and it will automatically place a link to that stream in that playlist. Playlists will be listed in your iTunes sources list. >> >> If you want to add a new stream to an existing playlist, you can simply use the copy and paste functions. >> >> HTH, >> Bryan >> >> On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: >>> Hi dane. I could just go find the stations i want, but how can i bookmark them in itunes so i can play them later? >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Tue Feb 21 18:16:00 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:16:00 -0500 Subject: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream? In-Reply-To: <4E4A579B-9B62-4DCE-BDA0-2CF90EEC3B24@gmail.com> References: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> <27C13783-EFF8-4075-985E-749F31BEB7FB@gmail.com> <07001C30-8427-48D6-9FC5-9F01BB5D1B99@me.com> <9031842A-395D-4043-95F0-4D4AA031837A@me.com> <4E4A579B-9B62-4DCE-BDA0-2CF90EEC3B24@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm pretty sure you'll be able to do what you're asking. I'm in the US and have several international streams saved in various playlists. I have multiple playlists for different genres of streams plus I have a "favorites" playlist that contains some of those same streams that I access most often. HTH, Bryan On Feb 21, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > Hi. if i add the stream to an existing play list, can I select an individual stream later on? so for example could i have a play list of say australian stations and maybe another one with my favourite internet stations etc? From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 19:16:12 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:16:12 -0800 Subject: Search iTunes radio stations using playlists | Macworld Message-ID: I know someone had this question. Here is the answer again in a nutshell. http://www.macworld.com/article/165485/2012/02/search_itunes_radio_stations_using_playlists.html#lsrc.rss_howto From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Tue Feb 21 20:58:26 2012 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:58:26 -0600 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String Message-ID: <201202212058.q1LKwQ2P013049@x.it.okstate.edu> I am quoting some text from a previous message about a different application of the same idea so I figured I had better pick a different subject. I am trying to outwit a very complex Windows-centric web site that I need to use for work so I will try cheerfully lying to it by saying that I am using Internet Explorer to see if I get any further than I have been getting all day which is nowhere. Bryan Jones writes: > 1. when you're in Safari go to Safari Preferences by pressing > Command+comma. So far, so good. > 2. In Safari Preferences interact with the toolbar, select the"Advanced" > button, stop interacting with the toolbar, navigate to the item labeled, > "Show Develop Menu in Menu Bar," and make sure this checkbox is checked. That was exactly as described. > This will add a menu item labeled "Develop" into the menu for both Safari > and Webkit. If I look at the safari menu, there is no new item even though the development box remains checked. Where should this show up? Thanks. Martin McCormick From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 21:33:24 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:33:24 -0600 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String In-Reply-To: <201202212058.q1LKwQ2P013049@x.it.okstate.edu> References: <201202212058.q1LKwQ2P013049@x.it.okstate.edu> Message-ID: Between bookmarks and Window. Then go into the user agent sub menu. Did you happen to shut Safari down and restart it? If not try that, then see if it sticks. On Feb 21, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > I am quoting some text from a previous message about a > different application of the same idea so I figured I had better > pick a different subject. > > I am trying to outwit a very complex Windows-centric web > site that I need to use for work so I will try cheerfully lying > to it by saying that I am using Internet Explorer to see if I > get any further than I have been getting all day which is > nowhere. > > Bryan Jones writes: >> 1. when you're in Safari go to Safari Preferences by pressing >> Command+comma. > > So far, so good. > >> 2. In Safari Preferences interact with the toolbar, select the"Advanced" >> button, stop interacting with the toolbar, navigate to the item labeled, >> "Show Develop Menu in Menu Bar," and make sure this checkbox is checked. > > That was exactly as described. > >> This will add a menu item labeled "Develop" into the menu for both Safari >> and Webkit. > > If I look at the safari menu, there is no new item even > though the development box remains checked. > > Where should this show up? > > Thanks. > > Martin McCormick > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Tue Feb 21 21:46:43 2012 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:46:43 -0600 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String Message-ID: <201202212146.q1LLkhSx013527@x.it.okstate.edu> Thomas McMahan writes: > Between bookmarks and Window. Then go into the user agent sub menu. Did > you happen to shut Safari down and restart it? If not try that, then see > if it sticks. I did shut it down and restart it. If I go into the Preferences and select Advanced, I still have the checkbox checked for the development menu. The only thing I don't have is the development menue anywhere. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 22:03:37 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:03:37 -0800 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String In-Reply-To: <201202212146.q1LLkhSx013527@x.it.okstate.edu> References: <201202212146.q1LLkhSx013527@x.it.okstate.edu> Message-ID: Odd. I did not even have to restart safari. It just worked right out of the box. Did you try and reboot the computer as a last resort to see if that would work? On Feb 21, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > Thomas McMahan writes: >> Between bookmarks and Window. Then go into the user agent sub menu. Did >> you happen to shut Safari down and restart it? If not try that, then see >> if it sticks. > > I did shut it down and restart it. If I go into the > Preferences and select Advanced, I still have the checkbox > checked for the development menu. The only thing I don't have is > the development menue anywhere. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Wed Feb 22 03:15:50 2012 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:15:50 -0600 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String Message-ID: <201202220315.q1M3FoTd015001@x.it.okstate.edu> Actually, rebooting didn't even cross my mind as that is more of a Windows way of doing things. Macs are unix systems which certainly doesn't mean that they don't get sick, but that each running application essentially runs in its own little bubble in which it has protection from all the other processes. When you exit safari, for instance, the kernel reclaims safari's slice of time and other resources and it is as if it had never existed. When you restart it again, you've essentially rebooted it and there is no need to reboot the whole system as long as everything else is genning right along normally. Sarah Alawami writes: >Did you try and reboot the computer as a last resort to see if > that would work? From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 06:08:15 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:08:15 -0800 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String In-Reply-To: <201202220315.q1M3FoTd015001@x.it.okstate.edu> References: <201202220315.q1M3FoTd015001@x.it.okstate.edu> Message-ID: It might just work. I had to reboot to fix an issue I was having. as I have some odd problems. lol so rebooting the system often helps me solve stuff. Take care. On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > Actually, rebooting didn't even cross my mind as that is > more of a Windows way of doing things. Macs are unix systems > which certainly doesn't mean that they don't get sick, but that > each running application essentially runs in its own little > bubble in which it has protection from all the other processes. > When you exit safari, for instance, the kernel reclaims safari's > slice of time and other resources and it is as if it had never > existed. When you restart it again, you've essentially rebooted > it and there is no need to reboot the whole system as long as > everything else is genning right along normally. > Sarah Alawami writes: >> Did you try and reboot the computer as a last resort to see if >> that would work? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 06:17:23 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria From Australia) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:17:23 +1100 Subject: Search iTunes radio stations using playlists | Macworld In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: thanks for this article which lead me to other articles. Interesting. If anyone else is interested in this topic take a look at the articles after the one linked below. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 22/02/2012, at 6:16 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I know someone had this question. Here is the answer again in a nutshell. > > > http://www.macworld.com/article/165485/2012/02/search_itunes_radio_stations_using_playlists.html#lsrc.rss_howto > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 06:21:52 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria From Australia) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:21:52 +1100 Subject: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream? In-Reply-To: <861E26DE-395F-4022-B6DC-91DE33E9B075@virginmedia.com> References: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> <27C13783-EFF8-4075-985E-749F31BEB7FB@gmail.com> <07001C30-8427-48D6-9FC5-9F01BB5D1B99@me.com> <9031842A-395D-4043-95F0-4D4AA031837A@me.com> <4E4A579B-9B62-4DCE-BDA0-2CF90EEC3B24@gmail.com> <861E26DE-395F-4022-B6DC-91DE33E9B075@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <12233E9A-5BA9-4FB7-A8B9-DAC9A8C27D5B@gmail.com> HI. thank you very much. You guys are awesome. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 22/02/2012, at 5:11 AM, "Red.Falcon" wrote: > Hi Maria! > Well you can make as many playlist's as you wish! > And another way to add to a playlist is to open vo+shift+m and in that menu you will find add to playlist sub menu and just arrow to the playlist you wish to add the stream your on and press vo space and it will be added! > hth > Colin > > On 21 Feb 2012, at 17:45, Maria Chapman wrote: > >> Hi. if i add the stream to an existing play list, can I select an individual stream later on? so for example could i have a play list of say australian stations and maybe another one with my favourite internet stations etc? >> >> thanks. >> >> >> Maria Chapman >> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> will get you fb as well as email >> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >> >> >> >> >> On 22/02/2012, at 4:40 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >>> I save my preferred readio streams in iTunes playlists. There are several ways to do this. If you've located and highlighted a stream you want to save into a new playlist, simply press Command+Shift+N and iTunes will present a dialog box allowing you to create and name a new playlist, and it will automatically place a link to that stream in that playlist. Playlists will be listed in your iTunes sources list. >>> >>> If you want to add a new stream to an existing playlist, you can simply use the copy and paste functions. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Bryan >>> >>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: >>>> Hi dane. I could just go find the stations i want, but how can i bookmark them in itunes so i can play them later? >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.trethowan at me.com Wed Feb 22 06:23:09 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:23:09 +1100 Subject: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream? In-Reply-To: <12233E9A-5BA9-4FB7-A8B9-DAC9A8C27D5B@gmail.com> References: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> <27C13783-EFF8-4075-985E-749F31BEB7FB@gmail.com> <07001C30-8427-48D6-9FC5-9F01BB5D1B99@me.com> <9031842A-395D-4043-95F0-4D4AA031837A@me.com> <4E4A579B-9B62-4DCE-BDA0-2CF90EEC3B24@gmail.com> <861E26DE-395F-4022-B6DC-91DE33E9B075@virginmedia.com> <12233E9A-5BA9-4FB7-A8B9-DAC9A8C27D5B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8707E1AB-92B6-4EC8-8AF5-043BB44871E8@me.com> We try to help, particularly just after your Birthday . On 22/02/2012, at 5:21 PM, Maria From Australia wrote: > HI. > > thank you very much. You guys are awesome. > > > > Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 22/02/2012, at 5:11 AM, "Red.Falcon" wrote: > >> Hi Maria! >> Well you can make as many playlist's as you wish! >> And another way to add to a playlist is to open vo+shift+m and in that menu you will find add to playlist sub menu and just arrow to the playlist you wish to add the stream your on and press vo space and it will be added! >> hth >> Colin >> >> On 21 Feb 2012, at 17:45, Maria Chapman wrote: >> >>> Hi. if i add the stream to an existing play list, can I select an individual stream later on? so for example could i have a play list of say australian stations and maybe another one with my favourite internet stations etc? >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> >>> Maria Chapman >>> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>> will get you fb as well as email >>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 22/02/2012, at 4:40 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>> >>>> I save my preferred readio streams in iTunes playlists. There are several ways to do this. If you've located and highlighted a stream you want to save into a new playlist, simply press Command+Shift+N and iTunes will present a dialog box allowing you to create and name a new playlist, and it will automatically place a link to that stream in that playlist. Playlists will be listed in your iTunes sources list. >>>> >>>> If you want to add a new stream to an existing playlist, you can simply use the copy and paste functions. >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> Bryan >>>> >>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: >>>>> Hi dane. I could just go find the stations i want, but how can i bookmark them in itunes so i can play them later? >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 07:34:53 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria From Australia) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:34:53 +1100 Subject: accessible way to listen to internet radio and record the stream? In-Reply-To: <8707E1AB-92B6-4EC8-8AF5-043BB44871E8@me.com> References: <8D388450-1935-44BB-8136-DBF59A6EFC3C@gmail.com> <27C13783-EFF8-4075-985E-749F31BEB7FB@gmail.com> <07001C30-8427-48D6-9FC5-9F01BB5D1B99@me.com> <9031842A-395D-4043-95F0-4D4AA031837A@me.com> <4E4A579B-9B62-4DCE-BDA0-2CF90EEC3B24@gmail.com> <861E26DE-395F-4022-B6DC-91DE33E9B075@virginmedia.com> <12233E9A-5BA9-4FB7-A8B9-DAC9A8C27D5B@gmail.com> <8707E1AB-92B6-4EC8-8AF5-043BB44871E8@me.com> Message-ID: <2FC8A44D-1D79-4600-9026-3F305A073B85@gmail.com> lol. yeah i guess the mac mini was an early birthday present to myself. lol Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 22/02/2012, at 5:23 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > We try to help, particularly just after your Birthday . > > > On 22/02/2012, at 5:21 PM, Maria From Australia wrote: > >> HI. >> >> thank you very much. You guys are awesome. >> >> >> >> Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 22/02/2012, at 5:11 AM, "Red.Falcon" wrote: >> >>> Hi Maria! >>> Well you can make as many playlist's as you wish! >>> And another way to add to a playlist is to open vo+shift+m and in that menu you will find add to playlist sub menu and just arrow to the playlist you wish to add the stream your on and press vo space and it will be added! >>> hth >>> Colin >>> >>> On 21 Feb 2012, at 17:45, Maria Chapman wrote: >>> >>>> Hi. if i add the stream to an existing play list, can I select an individual stream later on? so for example could i have a play list of say australian stations and maybe another one with my favourite internet stations etc? >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> Maria Chapman >>>> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>> will get you fb as well as email >>>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 22/02/2012, at 4:40 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> I save my preferred readio streams in iTunes playlists. There are several ways to do this. If you've located and highlighted a stream you want to save into a new playlist, simply press Command+Shift+N and iTunes will present a dialog box allowing you to create and name a new playlist, and it will automatically place a link to that stream in that playlist. Playlists will be listed in your iTunes sources list. >>>>> >>>>> If you want to add a new stream to an existing playlist, you can simply use the copy and paste functions. >>>>> >>>>> HTH, >>>>> Bryan >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: >>>>>> Hi dane. I could just go find the stations i want, but how can i bookmark them in itunes so i can play them later? >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From steve.holmes88 at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 13:15:10 2012 From: steve.holmes88 at gmail.com (Steve Holmes) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:15:10 -0800 Subject: Mac Office 2012 In-Reply-To: <35CBF64F-D7FF-417A-B2AF-F840CA80AADD@gmail.com> References: <35CBF64F-D7FF-417A-B2AF-F840CA80AADD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120222131510.GA29290@linlap.wavecable.com> What happened to OpenOffice or Libreoffice? I heard from some older podcasts that Open Office was becoming more accessible but that was back in the Leopard days. On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:08:40AM -0800, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yep and we've contcted microsoft since 2007 or so pleading to them to put accessibility in and they probably did not read the feedback form they themselves put up on there website. You will need IWork. I don't use it much but it looks ok from what I can tell. > On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:53 AM, David Griffith wrote: > > > I am afraid Office is not accessible to Voiceover. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Tony Orlebar > > Sent: 12 February 2012 18:37 > > To: Mac Access > > Subject: Mac Office 2012 > > > > > > I can not use voice over with Mac Office 2012 the voice over cursor only > > moves around the menu bars. But I can not type anything in. > > > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > > and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > > the list website at: > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Feb 22 13:27:54 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:27:54 -0400 Subject: Accessible FTP server. Message-ID: <44D8F33599D24A988BE960CFC3215884@CNIBnotebook> Hi Folks: Anyone know of a good accessible FTP server out there? I am trying PureFTPD server and, although it is somewhat accessible, some FTP clients are having trouble logging on to the server. I've also tried CrushFTP but accessibility is an issue there. Any help would be appreciated all over the place. From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Feb 22 13:30:30 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:30:30 -0400 Subject: auto-filling in Safari. Message-ID: Hi Folks: How does one prvent Safari from filling in text while one is typing an address? Thanks all over the place. From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 14:29:51 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:29:51 -0600 Subject: auto-filling in Safari. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1F5B4935-B84F-40ED-90D4-C8F5A3CB14A3@gmail.com> Should be able to go into Safari preference s and there is an autofill tab, and should be able to turn it off. On Feb 22, 2012, at 7:30 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > How does one prvent Safari from filling in text while one is typing an address? > > Thanks all over the place. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Wed Feb 22 14:36:18 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:36:18 -0500 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String In-Reply-To: <201202220315.q1M3FoTd015001@x.it.okstate.edu> References: <201202220315.q1M3FoTd015001@x.it.okstate.edu> Message-ID: Lion, it's apps, and it's processes are far from perfectly sandboxed. If I'm in an application and I get the Beach Ball of Death AKA BBOD AKA Busy Busy Busy Busy), I consider it a lucky day when Lion actually allows me to force quit the app without the rest of the system getting flaky. Most times I just save my work and restart the system at that point. Bryan On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > Actually, rebooting didn't even cross my mind as that is > more of a Windows way of doing things. Macs are unix systems > which certainly doesn't mean that they don't get sick, but that > each running application essentially runs in its own little > bubble in which it has protection from all the other processes. From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Feb 22 14:57:57 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:57:57 -0400 Subject: auto-filling in Safari. References: <1F5B4935-B84F-40ED-90D4-C8F5A3CB14A3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <26BBE1197B544299A7C76EC6F9F385F3@CNIBnotebook> Thomas: There are indeed options there but URL auto-filling is not one of them. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas McMahan" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:29 AM Subject: Re: auto-filling in Safari. > Should be able to go into Safari preference s and there is an autofill > tab, and should be able to turn it off. > On Feb 22, 2012, at 7:30 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> How does one prvent Safari from filling in text while one is typing an >> address? >> >> Thanks all over the place. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 15:04:52 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:04:52 -0600 Subject: auto-filling in Safari. In-Reply-To: <26BBE1197B544299A7C76EC6F9F385F3@CNIBnotebook> References: <1F5B4935-B84F-40ED-90D4-C8F5A3CB14A3@gmail.com> <26BBE1197B544299A7C76EC6F9F385F3@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: <1C2C7C43-1476-4093-B295-F7B8085CC7FB@gmail.com> yeah, I see that now, since mine is currently hanging up between pages, just checked that. Am thinking of earlier versions then, have only been in there twice including today with then newer versions that are lion compatible. So far the only thing I've been able to do is to be interacted in it, and just plow through with typing. Unfortunately a person who can't type fast or only types using limited amount of fingers is going to be driven serious nuts with that auto fill. The other thing to do is to intentional mess up one letter or character thus braking the normal string and back up one space and then start typing the rest and hopefully it will shut up, unless someone else here knows a way to shut that up. Those are the fast solutions, but not the most effective ones obviously. On Feb 22, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Thomas: > > There are indeed options there but URL auto-filling is not one of them. > > Thanks. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas McMahan" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: auto-filling in Safari. > > >> Should be able to go into Safari preference s and there is an autofill tab, and should be able to turn it off. >> On Feb 22, 2012, at 7:30 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> How does one prevent Safari from filling in text while one is typing an address? >>> >>> Thanks all over the place. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Feb 22 15:10:29 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:10:29 -0400 Subject: auto-filling in Safari. References: <1F5B4935-B84F-40ED-90D4-C8F5A3CB14A3@gmail.com> <26BBE1197B544299A7C76EC6F9F385F3@CNIBnotebook> <1C2C7C43-1476-4093-B295-F7B8085CC7FB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9D5B22FB9C9942548BE5FE8B1BC84433@CNIBnotebook> Hello: I did get a terminal command from the net but it doesn't work. A work-around is to type a space before the URL. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas McMahan" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM Subject: Re: auto-filling in Safari. > yeah, I see that now, since mine is currently hanging up between pages, > just checked that. Am thinking of earlier versions then, have only been > in there twice including today with then newer versions that are lion > compatible. So far the only thing I've been able to do is to be > interacted in it, and just plow through with typing. Unfortunately a > person who can't type fast or only types using limited amount of fingers > is going to be driven serious nuts with that auto fill. The other thing > to do is to intentional mess up one letter or character thus braking the > normal string and back up one space and then start typing the rest and > hopefully it will shut up, unless someone else here knows a way to shut > that up. Those are the fast solutions, but not the most effective ones > obviously. > > On Feb 22, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Thomas: >> >> There are indeed options there but URL auto-filling is not one of them. >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas McMahan" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:29 AM >> Subject: Re: auto-filling in Safari. >> >> >>> Should be able to go into Safari preference s and there is an autofill >>> tab, and should be able to turn it off. >>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 7:30 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks: >>>> >>>> How does one prevent Safari from filling in text while one is typing an >>>> address? >>>> >>>> Thanks all over the place. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Wed Feb 22 20:14:04 2012 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:14:04 -0600 Subject: auto-filling in Safari. Message-ID: <201202222014.q1MKE4A7019731@x.it.okstate.edu> Occasionally, I have reached up and muted the audio while I typed a URL because that constant attempt to help drives me bonkers. After typing the last character in the URL, I usually unmute the sound so I can hear what sort of thing happened when it is time to hit Enter "Jim Noseworthy" writes: > I did get a terminal command from the net but it doesn't work. A > work-around is to type a space before the URL. That one is new to me. I will have to try that and see if the babbling stops. By the way, I have understood autofill to mean the filling in of your user name and password on web forms, not the automatic attempt to help you complete what the system thinks you meant to type. From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Wed Feb 22 20:39:36 2012 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:39:36 -0600 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String Message-ID: <201202222039.q1MKdavv019875@x.it.okstate.edu> I forgot to mention that I am still running Snowleopard and its version of safari which may be the problem, here. Since the development box is in the advanced form, there should be some way to get that menu to appear. I also got the dreaded spinning beachball of death and voiceover chanting "safari busy. Safary ready . . busy ready busy," etc on a web form I was filling out yesterday so I finally turned off voiceover and then turned it back on in a few minutes and it seemed to have resolved its death grip on whatever is happening during these events. I have had this particular Mac for a couple of years, now, and it is mostly steady as a rock. Some of the Windows-oriented web sites I try it on make safari positively croak, however. As for Lion's processes being properly protected from one another, it could be that the resources of the system are being severely strained by one or more applications especially if voiceover is running. It really shouldn't just melt down. I am not a trained MacOS expert, but generally, one way to really kill a unix box is to let it run out of memory and swap space. The OS installer probably takes note of all these resources, but if your system is a little low on RAM, for instance, the installer will hopefully make the best of the worst decisions. This doesn't mean that you will crash every time, but you may when the system gets very busy and some of those apps hog memory. Bryan Jones writes: > Lion, it's apps, and it's processes are far from perfectly sandboxed. If > I'm in an application and I get the Beach Ball of Death AKA BBOD AKA Busy > Busy Busy Busy), I consider it a lucky day when Lion actually allows me > to force quit the app without the rest of the system getting flaky. Most > times I just save my work and restart the system at that point. > > Bryan From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 21:33:52 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:33:52 -0600 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String In-Reply-To: <201202222039.q1MKdavv019875@x.it.okstate.edu> References: <201202222039.q1MKdavv019875@x.it.okstate.edu> Message-ID: <421F2EA8-0CCB-4028-814E-EE7A26DB3519@gmail.com> That shouldn't be a problem it still should show up, even in the later versions for Tiger had the check in the preferences I think, can't remember for sure because when I set it up was years ago in terminal and it always remembered it with upgrades. So I don't think running Snow Leopard is the problem in itself. For the develop menu that is. On Feb 22, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > I forgot to mention that I am still running Snow leopard > and its version of safari which may be the problem, here. > > Since the development box is in the advanced form, there > should be some way to get that menu to appear. > > I also got the dreaded spinning beachball of death and > voiceover chanting "safari busy. Safary ready . . busy ready > busy," etc on a web form I was filling out yesterday so I > finally turned off voiceover and then turned it back on in a few > minutes and it seemed to have resolved its death grip on > whatever is happening during these events. > > I have had this particular Mac for a couple of years, > now, and it is mostly steady as a rock. Some of the > Windows-oriented web sites I try it on make safari positively > croak, however. > > As for Lion's processes being properly protected from > one another, it could be that the resources of the system are > being severely strained by one or more applications especially > if voiceover is running. It really shouldn't just melt down. > > I am not a trained MacOS expert, but generally, one way > to really kill a unix box is to let it run out of memory and > swap space. The OS installer probably takes note of all these > resources, but if your system is a little low on RAM, for > instance, the installer will hopefully make the best of the > worst decisions. This doesn't mean that you will crash every time, but you > may when the system gets very busy and some of those apps hog > memory. > > Bryan Jones writes: >> Lion, it's apps, and it's processes are far from perfectly sandboxed. If >> I'm in an application and I get the Beach Ball of Death AKA BBOD AKA Busy >> Busy Busy Busy), I consider it a lucky day when Lion actually allows me >> to force quit the app without the rest of the system getting flaky. Most >> times I just save my work and restart the system at that point. >> >> Bryan > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Feb 22 21:47:51 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:47:51 -0400 Subject: starting and stopping services on a Mac. Message-ID: <31A3A95CD4E0444DB21CFCEE0D548974@MainComputer> Hi Folks: Is there a program out there that would enable one to stop and start services on a Mac? Thanks all over the place. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6905 (20120222) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From fitzcl at centurylink.net Thu Feb 23 04:12:54 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:12:54 -0800 Subject: Reminders question Message-ID: <003a01ccf1e1$6b670130$42350390$@net> My reminders are set up, but I don't get any tone reminder. Why not? Catherine Golding Olympia, Washington From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Feb 23 10:41:49 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:41:49 +0000 Subject: Changing iPhone name Message-ID: <48362764-BE68-4C10-ABC1-264C04AC9A39@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, How can I change the name of my iPhone 3GS? Can I do this without causing lots of disruption? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Thu Feb 23 14:36:42 2012 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:36:42 -0600 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String Message-ID: <201202231436.q1NEagEI024212@x.it.okstate.edu> I think the reason I don't see the development menu is that I have killed my safari menu bar somewhere along the way. Opening safari presents the toolbar, several bookmarks I have set over time and a couple of links to Apple and Yahoo that were kindly included in the original installation. The toolbar opens with an input field for one to type in a link, a link to google and the buttons to let you bookmark if you like. Since I am apt to go to many different URL's, I turned off a "home page" some time ago since it meant usually clearing that page and going where I really wanted to go that time so that may be where I killed the safari menu bar. If one opens safari and then accesses the menu bars for the system with VO-m, the safari menu is one right move away from the Apple menu as it should be, but I don't beleive this is the menu we are talking about. I think if I get the safari menu back on the screen, the development menu should be there. Thomas McMahan writes: > That shouldn't be a problem it still should show up, even in the later > versions for Tiger had the check in the preferences I think, can't > remember for sure because when I set it up was years ago in terminal and > it always remembered it with upgrades. So I don't think running Snow > Leopard is the problem in itself. For the develop menu that is. From moriond at mac.com Thu Feb 23 14:43:25 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:43:25 -1000 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String In-Reply-To: <201202231436.q1NEagEI024212@x.it.okstate.edu> References: <201202231436.q1NEagEI024212@x.it.okstate.edu> Message-ID: Hi Martin, If you navigate to the menu bar (with VO-M or Control-F2), then VO-Right arrow past "Safari" or press "D" (with QuickNav off), can you access the "Develop" menu on the Safari menu bar? It should be to the right of "Bookmarks". HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:36 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: > I think the reason I don't see the development menu is > that I have killed my safari menu bar somewhere along the way. > Opening safari presents the toolbar, several bookmarks I have > set over time and a couple of links to Apple and Yahoo that were > kindly included in the original installation. The toolbar > opens with an input field for one to type in a link, a link to > google and the buttons to let you bookmark if you like. > > Since I am apt to go to many different URL's, I turned > off a "home page" some time ago since it meant usually clearing > that page and going where I really wanted to go that time so > that may be where I killed the safari menu bar. > > If one opens safari and then accesses the menu bars for > the system with VO-m, the safari menu is one right move away > from the Apple menu as it should be, but I don't beleive this is > the menu we are talking about. > > I think if I get the safari menu back on the screen, the > development menu should be there. > > Thomas McMahan writes: >> That shouldn't be a problem it still should show up, even in the later >> versions for Tiger had the check in the preferences I think, can't >> remember for sure because when I set it up was years ago in terminal and >> it always remembered it with upgrades. So I don't think running Snow >> Leopard is the problem in itself. For the develop menu that is. From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Thu Feb 23 16:19:26 2012 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:19:26 -0600 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String Message-ID: <201202231619.q1NGJQBo024769@x.it.okstate.edu> I really feel stupid right about now. Esther writes: > If you navigate to the menu bar (with VO-M or Control-F2), then VO-Right > arrow past "Safari" or press "D" (with QuickNav off), can you access the > "Develop" menu on the Safari menu bar? It should be to the right of > "Bookmarks". It's all there. This was a great combination of trying to make something harder than it should be by not being thorough enough. I am used to seeing the Menu bar with Apple Finder, File, Edit, View Window and Help. When I started Safari, safari's menu was right next to Apple and then there was File and Edit again which made me think that was all the new links and stop looking. I also thought this new menu might be in safari, itself so I kept looking in there for something new and didn't really go through the entire menu bar from one end to the other as the next two links past safari seemed familiar so why go on? Just one more link over would have told me everything. I was not very smart this time. Thanks very much to all of you for your help. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 17:30:23 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 09:30:23 -0800 Subject: Changing iPhone name In-Reply-To: <48362764-BE68-4C10-ABC1-264C04AC9A39@hopewell.org.uk> References: <48362764-BE68-4C10-ABC1-264C04AC9A39@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <15A7C173-6515-42C5-B23F-1F666CD21967@gmail.com> YOu can do it in iTunes or you can do it in ios 5. In ios 5 go to settings and then about and tap your phone's name and type anew one. then synch with iTunes. in itunes go to devices then your iPhone's name in the sources table then vo shift m after interacting with the sources table and then go to rename, type in the new name and synch. Take care all. On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:41 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > How can I change the name of my iPhone 3GS? Can I do this without causing lots of disruption? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Thu Feb 23 18:55:57 2012 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:55:57 -0600 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String Message-ID: <201202231855.q1NItv7S025670@x.it.okstate.edu> Now that I know everything was okay, I tried changing the user agent string. It is very easy and once you reset it, you go back to the main safari window to make your connection using the modified user agent string. The change is only good for that safari session and it automatically reverts back to Automatic the next time you call safari so one doesn't have to worry about forgetting to put it back and making other things not work. In my case, the web site I was trying to use delivered the same broken page after trying Internet Explorer 7, 8 and 9 and even iphone IOS4. I know we don't support Apple products on our site, but I wanted to see if maybe it might spit out a different web source and things might accidentally work better. They didn't, but it is nice to know this feature exists. Too bad firefox for the MAC isn't ready for Voiceover yet. My wife has a Mac but has normal vision so she uses firefox and has very little trouble. In an ideal situation, there should be more than one browser so that if one doesn't work, there is a Plan B. From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Thu Feb 23 19:23:06 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:23:06 +0000 Subject: Changing iPhone name In-Reply-To: <48362764-BE68-4C10-ABC1-264C04AC9A39@hopewell.org.uk> References: <48362764-BE68-4C10-ABC1-264C04AC9A39@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <4F46921A.9060506@techno-chat.net> Go to settings, general, about. On 23/02/2012 10:41, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > How can I change the name of my iPhone 3GS? Can I do this without causing lots of disruption? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 19:54:18 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:54:18 +1000 Subject: drop box? Message-ID: <2D864C0B-F4E1-41A3-9852-33891C911C02@gmail.com> HI. ok so I have installed drop box on my mac mini. In the other os I can go to drop box in the system tray and see what drop box is doing, exit drop box etc. Is there a way to do this on the mac? e.g. if I am on a prepaid connection and i want to exit drop box so it doesn't upload and download a heap of files, or if I am uploading a file and i would like to check it's progress? Hope this post makes sense? thanks Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl From 1smartdog at cox.net Thu Feb 23 20:27:06 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:27:06 -0600 Subject: Changing iPhone name References: <48362764-BE68-4C10-ABC1-264C04AC9A39@hopewell.org.uk> <4F46921A.9060506@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Besides settings>general>about you can also change the name in iTunes. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Changing iPhone name > Go to settings, general, about. > > On 23/02/2012 10:41, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> Hello, >> How can I change the name of my iPhone 3GS? Can I do this without causing >> lots of disruption? >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Feb 23 20:27:19 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:27:19 +0000 Subject: Changing iPhone name In-Reply-To: <4F46921A.9060506@techno-chat.net> References: <48362764-BE68-4C10-ABC1-264C04AC9A39@hopewell.org.uk> <4F46921A.9060506@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Sarah and Chris, Many thanks for the info on how to change my iPhone name. It worked fine doing it from the iPhone but when I first tried doing it from itunes my new name got updated by the old name when I synced the phone. I expected a name change to be traumatic and disruptive but it was real easy! Best regards.... Paul Hopewell On 23 Feb 2012, at 19:23, chris hallsworth wrote: > Go to settings, general, about. > > On 23/02/2012 10:41, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> Hello, >> How can I change the name of my iPhone 3GS? Can I do this without causing lots of disruption? >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From christoap at sky.com Thu Feb 23 20:33:09 2012 From: christoap at sky.com (Christo Thiardt) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:33:09 +0000 Subject: Sorting in Mail Message-ID: Dear All when sorting mail messages by "From" - how do I go to all the "M's" for instance? Secondly, using a MacBook Pro and Lion: what is the keystroke for going up/down a page in sorting the messages? Any help: much appreciated. Thank you. From 1smartdog at cox.net Thu Feb 23 21:27:41 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:27:41 -0600 Subject: Changing iPhone name References: <48362764-BE68-4C10-ABC1-264C04AC9A39@hopewell.org.uk><4F46921A.9060506@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <87D927C429BF4A30B01DD1DB9F81287D@karen796b6a58c> I change my phone's name pretty frequently using iTunes but you do have to have your phone plugged in, of course. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hopewell" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:27 PM Subject: Re: Changing iPhone name > Sarah and Chris, > Many thanks for the info on how to change my iPhone name. It worked fine > doing it from the iPhone but when I first tried doing it from itunes my > new name got updated by the old name when I synced the phone. I expected a > name change to be traumatic and disruptive but it was real easy! > Best regards.... > > Paul Hopewell > On 23 Feb 2012, at 19:23, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Go to settings, general, about. >> >> On 23/02/2012 10:41, Paul Hopewell wrote: >>> Hello, >>> How can I change the name of my iPhone 3GS? Can I do this without >>> causing lots of disruption? >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Thu Feb 23 21:45:28 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:45:28 -1000 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String In-Reply-To: <201202231855.q1NItv7S025670@x.it.okstate.edu> References: <201202231855.q1NItv7S025670@x.it.okstate.edu> Message-ID: <9FABD6E2-316D-403B-9C73-0B59E321A18A@mac.com> Hi Martin, You wrote: > Too bad firefox for the MAC isn't ready for Voiceover yet. I know that you have access to an iPhone since you mentioned trying iOS 4. I was really surprised to find out that Safari on the iPhone could handle getting to the login/create account information that Paul Hopewell was trying to access on the Sony Ericsson support forums, when Safari and WebKit (with multiple user agents tried) and Chrome could not. But I never got around to trying or needed to try Atomic Web Browser for his site. This web browser does many more browser emulations in its settings, and you can try them all out in the free, Atomic Web Browser Lite app: http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/atomic-web-browser-lite/id355513788?mt=8 Firefox is one of the browser emulations supported by this app under the "Identify Browser as" options under "Settings" within the app. If that works and you need to do downloads within the browser, you should get the regular Atomic Web Browser app for $0.99: ? Atomic Web Browser - Full Screen Tabbed Browser w/ Download Manager & Dropbox ($0.99) by RichTech: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/atomic-web-browser-full-screen/id347929410?mt=8 HTH. Cheers, Esther From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 21:47:04 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:47:04 +1000 Subject: image verification? Message-ID: <0150B90D-3F7C-4CA3-957B-3ADCE29F348A@gmail.com> HI. is there a way to deal with capchers on the mac? was trying to join the mac rumours forum but i can't find an audio capcher thing. Is there a service simular to salona or web visum? thanks Maria from australia Newbie mac user. bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 21:50:36 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:50:36 -0800 Subject: image verification? In-Reply-To: <0150B90D-3F7C-4CA3-957B-3ADCE29F348A@gmail.com> References: <0150B90D-3F7C-4CA3-957B-3ADCE29F348A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <584AA2CC-06CA-4D8C-9E97-68F17B222EA3@gmail.com> You will need to use firefox on windows with webvisum. but even I could not get that to work. It looks like the captcha changes all the time and joining looks not quite possible with sited help. On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > HI. is there a way to deal with capchers on the mac? was trying to join the mac rumours forum but i can't find an audio capcher thing. > > Is there a service simular to salona or web visum? > > thanks > > Maria from australia > Newbie mac user. > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > will get you fb as well as email > skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl > > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 21:53:16 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:53:16 -0600 Subject: image verification? In-Reply-To: <0150B90D-3F7C-4CA3-957B-3ADCE29F348A@gmail.com> References: <0150B90D-3F7C-4CA3-957B-3ADCE29F348A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <735FA84C-3E20-4550-A477-DE8D262C817B@gmail.com> Salona has service for Mac, but the last time I checked it they didn't have snapshot available, have to capture the image and send it to them and if someone is there they send it back as another page. It's been months well, actually probably close to a year since I was over there, hopefully others on the list will have more current information for you. I usually resort to booting up a windows machine and using firefox with webvism plugging for captchas that don't have audio. On Feb 23, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > HI. is there a way to deal with capchers on the mac? was trying to join the mac rumours forum but i can't find an audio capcher thing. > > Is there a service similar to salona or web visum? > > thanks > > Maria from australia > Newbie mac user. > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > will get you fb as well as email > skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl > > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 23:04:16 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:04:16 -0800 Subject: image verification? In-Reply-To: <735FA84C-3E20-4550-A477-DE8D262C817B@gmail.com> References: <0150B90D-3F7C-4CA3-957B-3ADCE29F348A@gmail.com> <735FA84C-3E20-4550-A477-DE8D262C817B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <203A1FB1-3A5B-4FFF-A227-05A6DB75B805@gmail.com> when you are lucky you will find someone online for that ervice but I quit using it a year ago as no one was online ever. Take care. On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote: > Salona has service for Mac, but the last time I checked it they didn't have snapshot available, have to capture the image and send it to them and if someone is there they send it back as another page. It's been months well, actually probably close to a year since I was over there, hopefully others on the list will have more current information for you. I usually resort to booting up a windows machine and using firefox with webvism plugging for captchas that don't have audio. > On Feb 23, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > >> HI. is there a way to deal with capchers on the mac? was trying to join the mac rumours forum but i can't find an audio capcher thing. >> >> Is there a service similar to salona or web visum? >> >> thanks >> >> Maria from australia >> Newbie mac user. >> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> will get you fb as well as email >> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Thu Feb 23 23:12:55 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:12:55 -1000 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String In-Reply-To: <9FABD6E2-316D-403B-9C73-0B59E321A18A@mac.com> References: <201202231855.q1NItv7S025670@x.it.okstate.edu> <9FABD6E2-316D-403B-9C73-0B59E321A18A@mac.com> Message-ID: <2EA6B61E-141D-4F04-92DF-39EEC2520B41@mac.com> Hello Martin, Sorry for the correction, but the ability to "Identify Browser As" is one of the features of the paid Atomic Web Browser app ($0.99) under iOS, and is not available in Atomic Web Lite. I usually used the paid version, and only put the Lite version on my iPhone for testing purposes. This time I launched the wrong version. If you navigate to "Settings White" button at the bottom of the screen, one of the options is "Identify Browser As". Firefox 3 and 5 are both options, among a host of others. ? Atomic Web Browser - Full Screen Tabbed Browser w/ Download Manager & Dropbox ($0.99) by RichTech: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/atomic-web-browser-full-screen/id347929410?mt=8 HTH. Cheers, Esther From moriond at mac.com Thu Feb 23 23:16:50 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:16:50 -1000 Subject: image verification? In-Reply-To: <203A1FB1-3A5B-4FFF-A227-05A6DB75B805@gmail.com> References: <0150B90D-3F7C-4CA3-957B-3ADCE29F348A@gmail.com> <735FA84C-3E20-4550-A477-DE8D262C817B@gmail.com> <203A1FB1-3A5B-4FFF-A227-05A6DB75B805@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Maria, I've never tried this, but if you have your iPhone with VizWiz, could you take a picture of the screen of your Mac and have one of the web workers tell you what was in the CAPTCHA? Cheers, Esther >> On Feb 23, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: >> >>> HI. is there a way to deal with capchers on the mac? was trying to join the mac rumours forum but i can't find an audio capcher thing. >>> >>> Is there a service similar to salona or web visum? >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> Maria from australia >>> Newbie mac user. >>> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>> will get you fb as well as email >>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>> From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 23:33:26 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:33:26 -0800 Subject: image verification? In-Reply-To: References: <0150B90D-3F7C-4CA3-957B-3ADCE29F348A@gmail.com> <735FA84C-3E20-4550-A477-DE8D262C817B@gmail.com> <203A1FB1-3A5B-4FFF-A227-05A6DB75B805@gmail.com> Message-ID: Now tha'ts an idea. I didn't eventhink of that. Give it a try and let us know. Take care. On Feb 23, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Maria, > I've never tried this, but if you have your iPhone with VizWiz, could you take a picture of the screen of your Mac and have one of the web workers tell you what was in the CAPTCHA? > > Cheers, > > Esther > >>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: >>> >>>> HI. is there a way to deal with capchers on the mac? was trying to join the mac rumours forum but i can't find an audio capcher thing. >>>> >>>> Is there a service similar to salona or web visum? >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> Maria from australia >>>> Newbie mac user. >>>> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>>> will get you fb as well as email >>>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Feb 24 03:34:06 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:34:06 -1000 Subject: Speeding up podcasts on the Mac [was Re: Speeding up podcasts on iphone] In-Reply-To: <154967EB-EEE9-4C79-8058-66E4D89F1A62@Mac-Access.net> References: <6CF53A2EDF8B4E6FB28137B677A2570A@DD952WB1> <154967EB-EEE9-4C79-8058-66E4D89F1A62@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Hi Eric, You wrote: > So am I right that this is not a option on the Mac in iTunes? > Thanks again! I'm off to power through some podcast listening. iTunes can't change the speed of playback, but VLC and QuickTime Player can. The version of QuickTime Player that was used by default before Snow Leopard, and which is now called QuickTime Player 7, has an A/V (audio/visual) control window. You show or hide it with the shortcut Command-K, and there are sliders that let you adjust playback speed, along with volume, balance, treble, bass, pitch, along with video brightness, color, and tint. This is AppleScriptable, so what I do is use a pair of AppleScripts to switch between playing a track in iTunes and Quick Time Player 7. The first AppleScript pauses iTunes, notes the time into the track where playing was paused, then starts QuickTime Player 7 playing at that time at a faster rate of my choosing. Here it is coded for 2 times speed, pasted in below: (* Play selected track in QuickTime at 2x speed Source: Mac OS X hints Jan 6, 2006 Play this podcast at 1.5x http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060103000452805 *) tell application "iTunes" try pause set my_track to location of current track set my_seconds to player position on error set my_track to location of item 1 of selection set my_seconds to 0 end try end tell tell application "QuickTime Player 7" open my_track set my_movie to first document set sound volume of my_movie to 256 --set volume to 100% set ts to time scale of my_movie set current time of my_movie to my_seconds * ts set rate of my_movie to 2.0 -- starts playing activate end tell The second AppleScript handles passing control back to iTunes, and notes the current playing position from QuickTime Player 7, so that when you go back to the track in iTunes its bookmarked position will resume from where you left off in QuickTime Player 7. If you play to the end of a podcast in QuickTime Player 7, the time will be set to the beginning of the podcast when you switch back to iTunes, just as though you had played through the podcast in iTunes. One warning is that you have to keep the track that is playing in iTunes as the current track, in order to correctly pass back the time with the second AppleScript. I don't imagine people will try navigating to different podcasts, radio streams, etc. in iTunes while listening to the speeded up podcast or audiobook in QuickTime Player 7, but in principle, they could. Here's the pasted in version of the AppleScript to return control to iTunes at normal playback speed: tell application "iTunes" set my_track to location of current track end tell tell application "QuickTime Player 7" set my_movie to first document set ts to time scale of my_movie set my_seconds to (current time of my_movie) / ts close my_movie end tell tell application "iTunes" set player position to my_seconds play end tell The same AppleScripts can be used in Leopard and Tiger, with the name of the application in the script set to "QuickTime Player" instead of "QuickTime Player 7". If you have Lion, you'll have to download QuickTime Player 7 to use these AppleScripts. Snow Leopard users will find it on their install DVDs. Here's the Knowledge Base Article on "Installing QuickTime Player 7 on Mac OS X v.10.6 or Later" that describes the process and has a download link for Lion: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3678 To set up your speed-up solution in Lion: 1. Get QuickTime Player 7 and install it from: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL923 2. Open AppleScript editor from your Utilities folder (in Finder Command-Shift-U, then type "a p" and Command-Down arrow to launch the AppleScript editor). 3. Set your AppleScripts to display in the status menu bar in preferences by pressing Command-Comma, then navigating to "Show Script menu in menu bar" and checking this option (VO-Space). You can check this works by using VO-M-M or Control-F8 to navigate to the status menu bar. VoiceOver should say, "AppleScript", and if you arrow down the menu you'll find "Open Scripts Folder" and "Open AppleScript Editor", followed by category folders of AppleScripts in the "/Library/Scripts" folder on your Mac. This is the "Computer Scripts Folder" that is one of the submenu options to open under "Open Scripts Folder", and is also where the VoiceOver scripts for "Time of Day" are stored (under the VoiceOver category folder at the bottom of the list). Press escape to leave navigating the menu options and return to your AppleScript preferences and continue navigating through the options of the General tab. By default, the "Show Computer scripts" box is checked, which is what gives you access to the list of folders from the status menu bar. You may optionally select the radio button to show application scripts at "top". This can slightly speed up navigation to scripts you add to the menu, by placing them before the category folders. Command-W to close the preferences window. 4. Copy and paste in the scripts into the AppleScript editor window. I use comment lines that start with a left parenthesis followed by a star, and that end with a star followed by a right parenthesis, to remind me that the current speed is set to 2x and give source of this AppleScript's MacOSX hints article, but you can skip over these in the first script and use VO-down arrow in mail to navigate to the "tell application "iTunes"" line, then make sure you're at start of the line with Command-left arrow. Hold down the Shift key for selection, then start arrowing down until you get to the end of the script. You can keep arrowing down until you reach my text description, just to be sure you've gotten everything, and then up arrow again so that the last highlighted line is the "end tell" command. As long as you continue to hold down the Shift key while pressing Up or Down arrow, you can continue to move forwards and backwards to refine your selection. When you've selected the whole script, release the Shift key and press Command-C to copy. Then Command-Tab to switch back to the AppleScript editor, and paste the script in with Command-V. If you want to break this up into steps, you can always copy and paste your AppleScript selection in to a TextEdit file to review, then undertake using the AppleScript Editor at a later time. (I frequently just save parts of tasks I want to work on in TextEdit files.) 5. To check things are working before I save the AppleScript, I'll first start a podcast playing in iTunes. Then I'll switch back to the AppleScript Editor window with Command-tab and use Command-R to run the script (rather than just compiling it with Command-K). If this works as it should, QuickTime Player 7 will be launched, and you'll start hearing the same podcast playing at faster speed in QuickTime Player 7. I'll actually paste the first script to speed up playing into the AppleScript Editor, then open a second window with Command-N, and paste the second AppleScript to resume iTunes playback before starting my playback checks. So after using Command-R to run the first script, and hearing the podcast play at speed, I'll use Command-accent (where accent is the leftmost key in the row of number on an English language input keyboard) to switch to the second AppleScript Editor window, and press Command-R to run it, and check whether playback transfers back to iTunes at normal speed. 6. Save your AppleScripts using Command-S under names you select, e.g. "Play Faster" and "Normal Speed". I use Command-Shift-G in Finder to navigate to my account's Library folder by typing: ~/Library/ into the dialog window and pressing return. Then I create a folder named "Scripts". (This may not be case sensitive, but I use a capital "S"). I save these scripts to my "User Scripts File" -- the location pointed to under the AppleScript menu. You can also save these to the general /Library/Scripts folder of your hard drive, if you have permission to write in that folder. 6a. Incidentally, I found a really quick way to make the Library folder under my account visible under Lion that does not involve typing a command in Terminal or getting TinkerTool to configure this. Go to Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes web page that describes "Installing AppleScripts under OS X Lion": http://dougscripts.com/itunes/2011/07/installing-applescripts-under-os-x-lion/ 6b. Navigate to the link for "download this AppleScript applet" and download the file (Option-Return). 6c. Open the "Show Downloads" window in Safari with Command-Option-L and navigate to the group, interact twice to get to the "Make Users Library Folder Visible" downloaded item group items, and navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the "Show in Finder" button then press (VO-Space). 6d. Command-Down arrow to launch the applet in Finder. Your Library folder is now visible. (This took a few seconds to do, and much longer to type out instructions.) 7. You can now use these AppleScripts to speed up and slow down your listening of podcasts and audiobooks. Start a podcast, audiobook, or movie track playing in iTunes, then navigate to the AppleScripts menu and select your "Play Faster" AppleScript to shift playback to QuickTime Player 7. Then select the "Normal Speed" AppleScript to shift back to iTunes and record your current position before pausing/stopping. There are some limitations on this: QuickTime Player can only be used on tracks without DRM, so Audible audiobooks or books purchased from the iTunes Store cannot be sped up this way. Neither can you use this to speed up commercial movies or TV shows that you purchase, but video clips without DRM will work. Also, I assume you use the "Get Info" (Command-I) shortcut to change the "Media Kind" pop up menu setting of your tracks to "Podcast" or "Audiobook" on the Option tab, and to check the boxes for "Remember playback position" and "Skip when shuffling". If I download Eric's podcast about list recorder from its Dropbox location and add it to my iTunes library, it will go into my Music library, and will start playing from the beginning of the track, because iTunes has no way of distinguishing this as a podcast unless you make the changes. The AppleScripts menu on the status menu bar can be accessed from any app, so you can navigate to other applications and work while listening to the podcast. You can do more complicated setups that involved assigning keyboard shortcuts or making these AppleScripts into Services with Automator instead. This is just a very basic way to solve the problem. If you want to read more about this basis these AppleScripts, check out the Mac OS X Hints web page from 2006 on "Listen to podcasts at 1.5x speed": http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060103000452805 HTH. Cheers, Esther From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Fri Feb 24 13:54:23 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:54:23 +1100 Subject: how do you burn a dvd using voice over on mac Message-ID: <88AA1F62-7F75-45B2-8731-3ACCCB614885@bluebottle.com> ok so i have mp4 files of my i phone videos i really want to make a dvd that will play in a dvd player how do you do this using voice over and what software do i need i i dvd does not do it i tunes doesn't do it small dvd does not do it i movie will not do it ok well yes if i could see then they would do the job but no apple need to make it work or we will never be able to burn dvds ever please can some one help me thanks From annakb at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 24 14:48:42 2012 From: annakb at sbcglobal.net (Ann Byrne) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:48:42 -0600 Subject: Getting to the ports to set up e-mail In-Reply-To: <63294A07-6F1A-4046-A035-0B898C8214A8@mac.com> References: <544171.83157.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <63294A07-6F1A-4046-A035-0B898C8214A8@mac.com> Message-ID: <232549.66652.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi, Esther, I'm still fighting the mail battle with my newly acquired Mac mini. In your post below, I can get through step 4, but in step 5 can't figure out how to navigate to the settings of port and so on. It's user ignorance, of course. Can you rescue me??? Thanks for all the help. Ann At 08:02 PM 2/19/2012, you wrote: >Hello Anne, > >I'm not sure how your mail port settings should be configured, but >you can get to this information through your Mail preferences settings. > >1. From Mail, type Command-Comma to bring up your preferences menu >2. Navigate to the "Accounts" button on your title bar and press it. >A quick way to do this is to use Control-F5 to move to the toolbar >then tab to the "Accounts" button and press with VO-Space, then tab >past the last button to where you here "Accounts, table" >3. Interact with the table to select the account you want to work >with then stop interacting with the table >4. Navigate (VO-RIght arrow) to the "Advanced" tab (3 of 3), and >select it (VO-Space). These are the advanced settings for the >account that you selected, whose basic information was specified on >the "Account information" tab (1 of 3). >5. Navigate to the advanced options that include text boxes for >items such as IMPA Path Prefix and Port number, and make any necessary changes. >6. Close the Preferences window with Command-W when done. > >One of the very useful guides in the "Take Control" series of ebooks >put out by TidBITS is the one dealing with Apple Mail. The last >available version is "Take Control of Apple in Snow Leopard" and >there is not yet an update for Lion. I'd wait for the new version >to appear, then take advantage of the special 80 per cent discount >that members of this list have for purchasing the Take Control >guides. To read more about this, check the "Breaking News!" link at >the main mac-access.net web page: >http://www.mac-access.net/ >These guides have all sorts of information that I haven't found as >easily in other places. At typical prices to list members of $2 to >$3 per guide, and with permanent access to the latest revisions and >updates for download in PDF, ePub, etc. formats, I think these are >well worth if if you need more extensive information on one of these >subjects than you can get from questions on the list. > >HTH. Cheers, > >Esther > >On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Ann Byrne wrote: > > > On my new/used Mac mini, I can receive mail, but can't send > it. I think the problem is with the ports. In mail, under > accounts, advanced, I can't find the place to change the port > settings. I found it once, and it said 25, 465, 5, 7, radio > button, 1 of 2. the second was a custom, and I guess that's what I > needed, because instead of 25 it should be 995. But I wanted to > double check. And I have *never, not once, been able to get back > to that dialog. > > > > Can someone tell me please how to get there??? Or am I barking > up the wrong mailbox? > > > > thanks much, > > > > Ann > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From martin at x.it.okstate.edu Fri Feb 24 15:29:58 2012 From: martin at x.it.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:29:58 -0600 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String Message-ID: <201202241529.q1OFTwaq031230@x.it.okstate.edu> I actually do not have an iphone but tried the ios4.0 user agent string from safari so it would tell the site I was having trouble with that I was an iphone to see if I got anything useful. It made no difference. I have tried voiceover on my wife's iphone and on an ipad owned by our department here at work and I could immediately tell this is something that one who is blind can certainly learn how to use. As for changing the browser or user-agent string in safari, it is my understanding that this setting has no effect on how safari behaves other than to tell the remote system that it is dealing with whatever you say your user agent is. If it sends out something safari doesn't understand, that's too bad. If the fact that it is safari makes some web site refuse to work at all, this lie may save your day if safari understands enough of what the remote site sends to function. Esther writes: > I know that you have access to an iPhone since you mentioned trying iOS From moriond at mac.com Fri Feb 24 20:08:16 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:08:16 -1000 Subject: Getting to the ports to set up e-mail In-Reply-To: <232549.66652.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <544171.83157.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <63294A07-6F1A-4046-A035-0B898C8214A8@mac.com> <232549.66652.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Ann, Once you are on the preferences pane for mail and have selected your account in the table (steps 1-3 of previous instructions), stop interacting with the table and navigate with VO-Right arrow through the tabs for "Account Information", "Mailbox Behaviors", to the 3rd tab for "Advanced" and select it with VO-Space (step 4). 5. Continue to navigate with VO-Right arrow to the fields on the "Advanced tab". Navigate past the first set of options, which simply specify that the account is enabled and will be included when automatically checking for inbox messages, along with what content you want to keep for offline viewing (e.g. all messages with attachments, all messages but no attachments, only read messages, no messages). The section you want to edit begins with "Check with your system administrator before changing any of the advanced options below:" 5a. The first field is a text box for IMAP path Prefix. (This is blank for my setup). 5b. The next field is a text box for Port, followed by a checked checkbox for "Use SSL". This is where you want to change the port setting. My "Advanced" tab preferences pane may appear different from yours, because I am using MobileMe IMAP as my mail server. However, you should still be able to find a text box with the Port setting that you can change on the "Advanced" tab. The 995 value is used for POP mail configuration using SSL (secure sockets layer); I use 993 for the corresponding IMAP configuration with SSL for MobileMe, The "25" value for the Port setting does not support SSL (authentication). After the checked check box for "Use SSL", I have an entry for "Authentication" with a pop up button (aka as combo box) set to "Password". I think that the options to select ports were shown to you when you did the original mail setup on the "Account Information" tab (1 of 3) under the "Accounts" pane of your mail preferences. If you were to add a new mail account (e.g., by pressing (VO-Space) the "New account" button that is below the table of accounts, and that you can navigate to from the table with VO-Down arrow), the dialog window would take you through the steps of filling in the information that is on the "Account Information" tab (1 of 3), and the "Advanced tab" (3 of 3). At a guess, because I don't have a POP mail setup, after you switch to a secured port (995), you may have to supply an authentication method, usually a password for your outgoing mail server, if sending still does no work for you once you have completed the changes to port number and closed the preferences window (with Command-W in step 6). If you need to add this, you would do so from the "Account Information" tab of the "Accounts" pane of your mail preferences. Your preferences in mail should open (with Command-comma) at your last setting (e.g., with the "Accounts" pane and "Advanced" tab selected. The steps you would then take would be: 1. You would simply navigate with VO-Right arrow to the "Account Information" tab (1 of 3) and press it (VO-Space), then continue to navigate to the pop up button for the "Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP)". 2. Press the pop up button for the outgoing mail server (VO-Space), then arrow down to the menu option for "Edit SMTP Server List?" and press return. 3. A dialog window with a table of "Servers" will appear, that will allow you to select your server and check that the server being used has the password field completed. Again, when you stop interacting with the table after selecting a server, there will be tabs for "Account Information" and "Advanced" that you can select and press (VO-Space). The "Advanced" tab should have information about the ports, etc. There will be buttons for "OK" and "Cancel" that will return you to the "Account Information" tab of your Mail Preferences "Account" pane. If my last set of comments after the information on how to find the text box to set the port on the "Advanced" tab don't appear relevant, please just ignore them. They're supplied in case you need to take further actions, and are just guesses about what you might need to do. I think you can also make adjustments to the port settings and password entries by starting from the "Account Information" tab and selecting your Outgoing Mail Server from the pop up menu, then choosing to "Edit SMTP Server List?" (the second set of instructions that start with "1"), but the detailed instructions would depend on your specific server configuration. Again, you'd end up selecting the "Advanced" tab to make your changes to port number. There is an option with radio buttons to select either using the default ports (25, 465, or 587) or to use a custom port (and fill in the number in the text box). This is the sort of material that I never remember, and that the "Take Control" guide series supplies so well. So I really hope that they have an update to the volume on Apple Mail in Snow Leopard for Lion. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 24, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Ann Byrne wrote: > Hi, Esther, > > I'm still fighting the mail battle with my newly acquired Mac mini. In your post below, I can get through step 4, but in step 5 can't figure out how to navigate to the settings of port and so on. It's user ignorance, of course. Can you rescue me??? > > Thanks for all the help. > > Ann > At 08:02 PM 2/19/2012, you wrote: >> Hello Anne, >> >> I'm not sure how your mail port settings should be configured, but you can get to this information through your Mail preferences settings. >> >> 1. From Mail, type Command-Comma to bring up your preferences menu >> 2. Navigate to the "Accounts" button on your title bar and press it. A quick way to do this is to use Control-F5 to move to the toolbar then tab to the "Accounts" button and press with VO-Space, then tab past the last button to where you here "Accounts, table" >> 3. Interact with the table to select the account you want to work with then stop interacting with the table >> 4. Navigate (VO-RIght arrow) to the "Advanced" tab (3 of 3), and select it (VO-Space). These are the advanced settings for the account that you selected, whose basic information was specified on the "Account information" tab (1 of 3). >> 5. Navigate to the advanced options that include text boxes for items such as IMPA Path Prefix and Port number, and make any necessary changes. >> 6. Close the Preferences window with Command-W when done. >> >> One of the very useful guides in the "Take Control" series of ebooks put out by TidBITS is the one dealing with Apple Mail. The last available version is "Take Control of Apple in Snow Leopard" and there is not yet an update for Lion. I'd wait for the new version to appear, then take advantage of the special 80 per cent discount that members of this list have for purchasing the Take Control guides. To read more about this, check the "Breaking News!" link at the main mac-access.net web page: >> http://www.mac-access.net/ >> These guides have all sorts of information that I haven't found as easily in other places. At typical prices to list members of $2 to $3 per guide, and with permanent access to the latest revisions and updates for download in PDF, ePub, etc. formats, I think these are well worth if if you need more extensive information on one of these subjects than you can get from questions on the list. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Ann Byrne wrote: >> >> > On my new/used Mac mini, I can receive mail, but can't send it. I think the problem is with the ports. In mail, under accounts, advanced, I can't find the place to change the port settings. I found it once, and it said 25, 465, 5, 7, radio button, 1 of 2. the second was a custom, and I guess that's what I needed, because instead of 25 it should be 995. But I wanted to double check. And I have *never, not once, been able to get back to that dialog. >> > >> > Can someone tell me please how to get there??? Or am I barking up the wrong mailbox? >> > >> > thanks much, >> > >> > Ann >> > >> From annakb at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 24 21:18:19 2012 From: annakb at sbcglobal.net (Ann Byrne) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:18:19 -0600 Subject: Getting to the ports to set up e-mail In-Reply-To: References: <544171.83157.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <63294A07-6F1A-4046-A035-0B898C8214A8@mac.com> <232549.66652.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <115315.56047.qm@smtp110.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thanks a bunch. It's that last, with default settings, that my son-in-law can mouse to but I can't seem to navigate to with VoiceOver. I will try removing and readding the account and see if it all magically becomes accessible again. At 02:08 PM 2/24/2012, you wrote: >Hi Ann, > >Once you are on the preferences pane for mail >and have selected your account in the table >(steps 1-3 of previous instructions), stop >interacting with the table and navigate with >VO-Right arrow through the tabs for "Account >Information", "Mailbox Behaviors", to the 3rd >tab for "Advanced" and select it with VO-Space (step 4). > >5. Continue to navigate with VO-Right arrow to >the fields on the "Advanced tab". Navigate past >the first set of options, which simply specify >that the account is enabled and will be included >when automatically checking for inbox messages, >along with what content you want to keep for >offline viewing (e.g. all messages with >attachments, all messages but no attachments, >only read messages, no messages). The section >you want to edit begins with "Check with your >system administrator before changing any of the advanced options below:" >5a. The first field is a text box for IMAP path >Prefix. (This is blank for my setup). >5b. The next field is a text box for Port, >followed by a checked checkbox for "Use >SSL". This is where you want to change the port setting. > >My "Advanced" tab preferences pane may appear >different from yours, because I am using >MobileMe IMAP as my mail server. However, you >should still be able to find a text box with the >Port setting that you can change on the >"Advanced" tab. The 995 value is used for POP >mail configuration using SSL (secure sockets >layer); I use 993 for the corresponding IMAP >configuration with SSL for MobileMe, The "25" >value for the Port setting does not support SSL >(authentication). After the checked check box >for "Use SSL", I have an entry for >"Authentication" with a pop up button (aka as combo box) set to "Password". > >I think that the options to select ports were >shown to you when you did the original mail >setup on the "Account Information" tab (1 of 3) >under the "Accounts" pane of your mail >preferences. If you were to add a new mail >account (e.g., by pressing (VO-Space) the "New >account" button that is below the table of >accounts, and that you can navigate to from the >table with VO-Down arrow), the dialog window >would take you through the steps of filling in >the information that is on the "Account >Information" tab (1 of 3), and the "Advanced tab" (3 of 3). > >At a guess, because I don't have a POP mail >setup, after you switch to a secured port (995), >you may have to supply an authentication method, >usually a password for your outgoing mail >server, if sending still does no work for you >once you have completed the changes to port >number and closed the preferences window (with >Command-W in step 6). If you need to add this, >you would do so from the "Account Information" >tab of the "Accounts" pane of your mail >preferences. Your preferences in mail should >open (with Command-comma) at your last setting >(e.g., with the "Accounts" pane and "Advanced" >tab selected. The steps you would then take would be: > >1. You would simply navigate with VO-Right arrow >to the "Account Information" tab (1 of 3) and >press it (VO-Space), then continue to navigate >to the pop up button for the "Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP)". >2. Press the pop up button for the outgoing mail >server (VO-Space), then arrow down to the menu >option for "Edit SMTP Server List " and press return. >3. A dialog window with a table of "Servers" >will appear, that will allow you to select your >server and check that the server being used has >the password field completed. Again, when you >stop interacting with the table after selecting >a server, there will be tabs for "Account >Information" and "Advanced" that you can select >and press (VO-Space). The "Advanced" tab should >have information about the ports, etc. There >will be buttons for "OK" and "Cancel" that will >return you to the "Account Information" tab of >your Mail Preferences "Account" pane. > >If my last set of comments after the information >on how to find the text box to set the port on >the "Advanced" tab don't appear relevant, please >just ignore them. They're supplied in case you >need to take further actions, and are just >guesses about what you might need to do. I >think you can also make adjustments to the port >settings and password entries by starting from >the "Account Information" tab and selecting your >Outgoing Mail Server from the pop up menu, then >choosing to "Edit SMTP Server List " (the second >set of instructions that start with "1"), but >the detailed instructions would depend on your >specific server configuration. Again, you'd end >up selecting the "Advanced" tab to make your >changes to port number. There is an option with >radio buttons to select either using the default >ports (25, 465, or 587) or to use a custom port >(and fill in the number in the text box). > >This is the sort of material that I never >remember, and that the "Take Control" guide >series supplies so well. So I really hope that >they have an update to the volume on Apple Mail in Snow Leopard for Lion. > >HTH. Cheers, > >Esther > >On Feb 24, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Ann Byrne wrote: > > > Hi, Esther, > > > > I'm still fighting the mail battle with my > newly acquired Mac mini. In your post below, I > can get through step 4, but in step 5 can't > figure out how to navigate to the settings of > port and so on. It's user ignorance, of course. Can you rescue me??? > > > > Thanks for all the help. > > > > Ann > > At 08:02 PM 2/19/2012, you wrote: > >> Hello Anne, > >> > >> I'm not sure how your mail port settings > should be configured, but you can get to this > information through your Mail preferences settings. > >> > >> 1. From Mail, type Command-Comma to bring up your preferences menu > >> 2. Navigate to the "Accounts" button on your > title bar and press it. A quick way to do this > is to use Control-F5 to move to the toolbar > then tab to the "Accounts" button and press > with VO-Space, then tab past the last button to > where you here "Accounts, table" > >> 3. Interact with the table to select the > account you want to work with then stop interacting with the table > >> 4. Navigate (VO-RIght arrow) to the > "Advanced" tab (3 of 3), and select it > (VO-Space). These are the advanced settings > for the account that you selected, whose basic > information was specified on the "Account information" tab (1 of 3). > >> 5. Navigate to the advanced options that > include text boxes for items such as IMPA Path > Prefix and Port number, and make any necessary changes. > >> 6. Close the Preferences window with Command-W when done. > >> > >> One of the very useful guides in the "Take > Control" series of ebooks put out by TidBITS is > the one dealing with Apple Mail. The last > available version is "Take Control of Apple in > Snow Leopard" and there is not yet an update > for Lion. I'd wait for the new version to > appear, then take advantage of the special 80 > per cent discount that members of this list > have for purchasing the Take Control > guides. To read more about this, check the > "Breaking News!" link at the main mac-access.net web page: > >> http://www.mac-access.net/ > >> These guides have all sorts of information > that I haven't found as easily in other > places. At typical prices to list members of > $2 to $3 per guide, and with permanent access > to the latest revisions and updates for > download in PDF, ePub, etc. formats, I think > these are well worth if if you need more > extensive information on one of these subjects > than you can get from questions on the list. > >> > >> HTH. Cheers, > >> > >> Esther > >> > >> On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Ann Byrne wrote: > >> > >> > On my new/used Mac mini, I can receive > mail, but can't send it. I think the problem > is with the ports. In mail, under accounts, > advanced, I can't find the place to change the > port settings. I found it once, and it said > 25, 465, 5, 7, radio button, 1 of 2. the > second was a custom, and I guess that's what I > needed, because instead of 25 it should be > 995. But I wanted to double check. And I have > *never, not once, been able to get back to that dialog. > >> > > >> > Can someone tell me please how to get > there??? Or am I barking up the wrong mailbox? > >> > > >> > thanks much, > >> > > >> > Ann > >> > > >> > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your >message to mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages >posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the >list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed >malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership >options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Feb 24 21:41:04 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:41:04 -1000 Subject: Getting to the ports to set up e-mail In-Reply-To: <115315.56047.qm@smtp110.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <544171.83157.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <63294A07-6F1A-4046-A035-0B898C8214A8@mac.com> <232549.66652.qm@smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <115315.56047.qm@smtp110.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Anne, I think you're talking about the default settings on the Advanced tab once you've selected "Edit SMTP Server List?" on the pop up button for the Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP). This is about step 3. in the second set of instructions new the end of my post, where navigation starts from the "Account Information" tab of the Accounts pane for Mail, rather than from the "Advanced Tab". I think you are only able to navigate to the advanced tab radio buttons once you have highlighted a selection in the table of servers. You might try routing your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor with VO-Command-F5, and clicking with VO-Shift-Space to select your server before you stop interacting with the table and navigate to the "Advanced" tab to press and select it with VO-Space. Other than that, your suggestion or removing and adding the account again should work, since you'll be taken through the setup dialog. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Ann Byrne wrote: > Thanks a bunch. It's that last, with default settings, that my son-in-law can mouse to but I can't seem to navigate to with VoiceOver. I will try removing and readding the account and see if it all magically becomes accessible again. > > > At 02:08 PM 2/24/2012, you wrote: >> Hi Ann, >> >> Once you are on the preferences pane for mail and have selected your account in the table (steps 1-3 of previous instructions), stop interacting with the table and navigate with VO-Right arrow through the tabs for "Account Information", "Mailbox Behaviors", to the 3rd tab for "Advanced" and select it with VO-Space (step 4). >> >> 5. Continue to navigate with VO-Right arrow to the fields on the "Advanced tab". Navigate past the first set of options, which simply specify that the account is enabled and will be included when automatically checking for inbox messages, along with what content you want to keep for offline viewing (e.g. all messages with attachments, all messages but no attachments, only read messages, no messages). The section you want to edit begins with "Check with your system administrator before changing any of the advanced options below:" >> 5a. The first field is a text box for IMAP path Prefix. (This is blank for my setup). >> 5b. The next field is a text box for Port, followed by a checked checkbox for "Use SSL". This is where you want to change the port setting. >> >> My "Advanced" tab preferences pane may appear different from yours, because I am using MobileMe IMAP as my mail server. However, you should still be able to find a text box with the Port setting that you can change on the "Advanced" tab. The 995 value is used for POP mail configuration using SSL (secure sockets layer); I use 993 for the corresponding IMAP configuration with SSL for MobileMe, The "25" value for the Port setting does not support SSL (authentication). After the checked check box for "Use SSL", I have an entry for "Authentication" with a pop up button (aka as combo box) set to "Password". >> >> I think that the options to select ports were shown to you when you did the original mail setup on the "Account Information" tab (1 of 3) under the "Accounts" pane of your mail preferences. If you were to add a new mail account (e.g., by pressing (VO-Space) the "New account" button that is below the table of accounts, and that you can navigate to from the table with VO-Down arrow), the dialog window would take you through the steps of filling in the information that is on the "Account Information" tab (1 of 3), and the "Advanced tab" (3 of 3). >> >> At a guess, because I don't have a POP mail setup, after you switch to a secured port (995), you may have to supply an authentication method, usually a password for your outgoing mail server, if sending still does no work for you once you have completed the changes to port number and closed the preferences window (with Command-W in step 6). If you need to add this, you would do so from the "Account Information" tab of the "Accounts" pane of your mail preferences. Your preferences in mail should open (with Command-comma) at your last setting (e.g., with the "Accounts" pane and "Advanced" tab selected. The steps you would then take would be: >> >> 1. You would simply navigate with VO-Right arrow to the "Account Information" tab (1 of 3) and press it (VO-Space), then continue to navigate to the pop up button for the "Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP)". >> 2. Press the pop up button for the outgoing mail server (VO-Space), then arrow down to the menu option for "Edit SMTP Server List?" and press return. >> 3. A dialog window with a table of "Servers" will appear, that will allow you to select your server and check that the server being used has the password field completed. Again, when you stop interacting with the table after selecting a server, there will be tabs for "Account Information" and "Advanced" that you can select and press (VO-Space). The "Advanced" tab should have information about the ports, etc. There will be buttons for "OK" and "Cancel" that will return you to the "Account Information" tab of your Mail Preferences "Account" pane. >> >> If my last set of comments after the information on how to find the text box to set the port on the "Advanced" tab don't appear relevant, please just ignore them. They're supplied in case you need to take further actions, and are just guesses about what you might need to do. I think you can also make adjustments to the port settings and password entries by starting from the "Account Information" tab and selecting your Outgoing Mail Server from the pop up menu, then choosing to "Edit SMTP Server List?" (the second set of instructions that start with "1"), but the detailed instructions would depend on your specific server configuration. Again, you'd end up selecting the "Advanced" tab to make your changes to port number. There is an option with radio buttons to select either using the default ports (25, 465, or 587) or to use a custom port (and fill in the number in the text box). >> >> This is the sort of material that I never remember, and that the "Take Control" guide series supplies so well. So I really hope that they have an update to the volume on Apple Mail in Snow Leopard for Lion. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 24, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Ann Byrne wrote: >> >> > Hi, Esther, >> > >> > I'm still fighting the mail battle with my newly acquired Mac mini. In your post below, I can get through step 4, but in step 5 can't figure out how to navigate to the settings of port and so on. It's user ignorance, of course. Can you rescue me??? >> > >> > Thanks for all the help. >> > >> > Ann >> > At 08:02 PM 2/19/2012, you wrote: >> >> Hello Anne, >> >> >> >> I'm not sure how your mail port settings should be configured, but you can get to this information through your Mail preferences settings. >> >> >> >> 1. From Mail, type Command-Comma to bring up your preferences menu >> >> 2. Navigate to the "Accounts" button on your title bar and press it. A quick way to do this is to use Control-F5 to move to the toolbar then tab to the "Accounts" button and press with VO-Space, then tab past the last button to where you here "Accounts, table" >> >> 3. Interact with the table to select the account you want to work with then stop interacting with the table >> >> 4. Navigate (VO-RIght arrow) to the "Advanced" tab (3 of 3), and select it (VO-Space). These are the advanced settings for the account that you selected, whose basic information was specified on the "Account information" tab (1 of 3). >> >> 5. Navigate to the advanced options that include text boxes for items such as IMPA Path Prefix and Port number, and make any necessary changes. >> >> 6. Close the Preferences window with Command-W when done. >> >> >> >> One of the very useful guides in the "Take Control" series of ebooks put out by TidBITS is the one dealing with Apple Mail. The last available version is "Take Control of Apple in Snow Leopard" and there is not yet an update for Lion. I'd wait for the new version to appear, then take advantage of the special 80 per cent discount that members of this list have for purchasing the Take Control guides. To read more about this, check the "Breaking News!" link at the main mac-access.net web page: >> >> http://www.mac-access.net/ >> >> These guides have all sorts of information that I haven't found as easily in other places. At typical prices to list members of $2 to $3 per guide, and with permanent access to the latest revisions and updates for download in PDF, ePub, etc. formats, I think these are well worth if if you need more extensive information on one of these subjects than you can get from questions on the list. >> >> >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> >> >> Esther >> >> >> >> On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Ann Byrne wrote: >> >> >> >> > On my new/used Mac mini, I can receive mail, but can't send it. I think the problem is with the ports. In mail, under accounts, advanced, I can't find the place to change the port settings. I found it once, and it said 25, 465, 5, 7, radio button, 1 of 2. the second was a custom, and I guess that's what I needed, because instead of 25 it should be 995. But I wanted to double check. And I have *never, not once, been able to get back to that dialog. >> >> > >> >> > Can someone tell me please how to get there??? Or am I barking up the wrong mailbox? >> >> > >> >> > thanks much, >> >> > >> >> > Ann >> >> > >> >> >> From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 22:25:58 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:25:58 +0000 Subject: best facebook app for ios Message-ID: <27E166E2-395B-434B-A8FF-14F80B0B9FF3@gmail.com> hi all what is considered the best facebook app for us to use on the IOS platform? I tried the main facebook app couldn't get onw tih it, facely hd doesn't seem too bad From nc5rnc5r at gmail.com Fri Feb 24 23:56:12 2012 From: nc5rnc5r at gmail.com (Robert Carter) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:56:12 -0600 Subject: New Tech Doctor Podcast Message-ID: Hi All, In this brand new Tech Doctor podcast, Robert demonstrates how he uses Sound Studio to edit the Tech Doctor podcast. Http://www.dr-carter.com Robert From blindworrell at yahoo.com Sat Feb 25 00:16:31 2012 From: blindworrell at yahoo.com (Ed Worrell) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:16:31 -0700 Subject: best facebook app for ios In-Reply-To: <27E166E2-395B-434B-A8FF-14F80B0B9FF3@gmail.com> References: <27E166E2-395B-434B-A8FF-14F80B0B9FF3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <361C5AA0-0F94-468A-8424-4DB7B73B7A86@yahoo.com> Hello, if you are looking for full app go with Facely, there are some bugs with using it with VO, but it is pretty good. The one that I use is Status Report, the developer has recently made it accessible with Voiceover. This isn't a full facebook client app though. It is mainly for reading, commenting, and posting on all the major social sites, There is one thing that is a little wierd with the app. It doesn't refresh at launch, you have to make it refresh, this is done by finding the first status message, double tapping and holding then while holding dragging down towards the home button and it will manually refresh the statuses. hth Ed From d.trethowan at me.com Sat Feb 25 00:19:19 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:19:19 +1100 Subject: best facebook app for ios In-Reply-To: <361C5AA0-0F94-468A-8424-4DB7B73B7A86@yahoo.com> References: <27E166E2-395B-434B-A8FF-14F80B0B9FF3@gmail.com> <361C5AA0-0F94-468A-8424-4DB7B73B7A86@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've not bothered with Facebook for quite some time but one app I seemed to have great success with was IM+ tPro hink it was called, don't know how it goes with Facebook these days. I know people on this list use it quite a bit so perhaps those people would care to comment further. On 25/02/2012, at 11:16 AM, Ed Worrell wrote: > Hello, if you are looking for full app go with Facely, there are some bugs with using it with VO, but it is pretty good. The one that I use is Status Report, the developer has recently made it accessible with Voiceover. This isn't a full facebook client app though. It is mainly for reading, commenting, and posting on all the major social sites, There is one thing that is a little wierd with the app. It doesn't refresh at launch, you have to make it refresh, this is done by finding the first status message, double tapping and holding then while holding dragging down towards the home button and it will manually refresh the statuses. > hth > Ed > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 00:56:55 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:56:55 -0800 Subject: best facebook app for ios In-Reply-To: References: <27E166E2-395B-434B-A8FF-14F80B0B9FF3@gmail.com> <361C5AA0-0F94-468A-8424-4DB7B73B7A86@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I use focus as they are starting to update it now a days. It works quite well. Take care all. On Feb 24, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > I've not bothered with Facebook for quite some time but one app I seemed to have great success with was IM+ tPro hink it was called, don't know how it goes with Facebook these days. > > I know people on this list use it quite a bit so perhaps those people would care to comment further. > > > On 25/02/2012, at 11:16 AM, Ed Worrell wrote: > >> Hello, if you are looking for full app go with Facely, there are some bugs with using it with VO, but it is pretty good. The one that I use is Status Report, the developer has recently made it accessible with Voiceover. This isn't a full facebook client app though. It is mainly for reading, commenting, and posting on all the major social sites, There is one thing that is a little wierd with the app. It doesn't refresh at launch, you have to make it refresh, this is done by finding the first status message, double tapping and holding then while holding dragging down towards the home button and it will manually refresh the statuses. >> hth >> Ed >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 02:03:54 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:03:54 +1000 Subject: got another question iTunes and sound cards Message-ID: <77C82910-4864-46F2-9B1C-5D711D808F23@gmail.com> HI. have usb head phones and speakers. I can change the audio source with voice over and with things like skype, either to use the usb headphones or speakers. is it possible to do this with itunes? am playing rs games and would like to have itunes play through the speakers and rs game's voice to play through the usb headset. is this possible? if not, is there a player where i can change the audio source? will vlc do it? and speaking of rs games is it possible to play a stream instead of the background music with the mac? control or command b doesn't seem to work. ok I'm off now. lol thanks again Maria from australia Newbie mac user. bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email & iImessage. skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 02:10:01 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:10:01 -0800 Subject: got another question iTunes and sound cards In-Reply-To: <77C82910-4864-46F2-9B1C-5D711D808F23@gmail.com> References: <77C82910-4864-46F2-9B1C-5D711D808F23@gmail.com> Message-ID: <33E24306-0CB4-4656-A97E-4AA649830B2D@gmail.com> vlc will do it. and you have to hit I think it is control b. if that does not work try cmd b. It will only work in some of the gtame s though not all. Take care. On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > HI. have usb head phones and speakers. I can change the audio source with voice over and with things like skype, either to use the usb headphones or speakers. is it possible to do this with itunes? am playing rs games and would like to have itunes play through the speakers and rs game's voice to play through the usb headset. is this possible? if not, is there a player where i can change the audio source? > will vlc do it? and speaking of rs games is it possible to play a stream instead of the background music with the mac? control or command b doesn't seem to work. > > ok I'm off now. lol > thanks > again > Maria from australia > Newbie mac user. > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > will get you fb as well as email & iImessage. > skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl > > > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sat Feb 25 02:29:45 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:29:45 -0500 Subject: Speeding up podcasts on the Mac [was Re: Speeding up podcasts on iphone] In-Reply-To: References: <6CF53A2EDF8B4E6FB28137B677A2570A@DD952WB1> <154967EB-EEE9-4C79-8058-66E4D89F1A62@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <6C42245C-0966-4BE7-9B32-48ED231F0BCF@Mac-Access.net> Wow! Esther and others, I am going to make every effort to follow these amazing directions. This is going to push my Mac skills to the limit. I'm looking forward to adding this capability to iTunes. I'm very grateful, and slightly intimidated by this undertaking. I'm glad the list support is out there! ERic Caron On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Eric, > > You wrote: > >> So am I right that this is not a option on the Mac in iTunes? >> Thanks again! I'm off to power through some podcast listening. > > > iTunes can't change the speed of playback, but VLC and QuickTime Player can. The version of QuickTime Player that was used by default before Snow Leopard, and which is now called QuickTime Player 7, has an A/V (audio/visual) control window. You show or hide it with the shortcut Command-K, and there are sliders that let you adjust playback speed, along with volume, balance, treble, bass, pitch, along with video brightness, color, and tint. This is AppleScriptable, so what I do is use a pair of AppleScripts to switch between playing a track in iTunes and Quick Time Player 7. > > The first AppleScript pauses iTunes, notes the time into the track where playing was paused, then starts QuickTime Player 7 playing at that time at a faster rate of my choosing. Here it is coded for 2 times speed, pasted in below: > > (* > Play selected track in QuickTime at 2x speed > Source: Mac OS X hints Jan 6, 2006 Play this podcast at 1.5x > http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060103000452805 > *) > tell application "iTunes" > try > pause > set my_track to location of current track > set my_seconds to player position > on error > set my_track to location of item 1 of selection > set my_seconds to 0 > end try > end tell > > tell application "QuickTime Player 7" > open my_track > set my_movie to first document > set sound volume of my_movie to 256 --set volume to 100% > set ts to time scale of my_movie > set current time of my_movie to my_seconds * ts > set rate of my_movie to 2.0 -- starts playing > activate > end tell > > The second AppleScript handles passing control back to iTunes, and notes the current playing position from QuickTime Player 7, so that when you go back to the track in iTunes its bookmarked position will resume from where you left off in QuickTime Player 7. If you play to the end of a podcast in QuickTime Player 7, the time will be set to the beginning of the podcast when you switch back to iTunes, just as though you had played through the podcast in iTunes. One warning is that you have to keep the track that is playing in iTunes as the current track, in order to correctly pass back the time with the second AppleScript. I don't imagine people will try navigating to different podcasts, radio streams, etc. in iTunes while listening to the speeded up podcast or audiobook in QuickTime Player 7, but in principle, they could. Here's the pasted in version of the AppleScript to return control to iTunes at normal playback speed: > > tell application "iTunes" > set my_track to location of current track > end tell > > tell application "QuickTime Player 7" > set my_movie to first document > set ts to time scale of my_movie > set my_seconds to (current time of my_movie) / ts > close my_movie > end tell > > tell application "iTunes" > set player position to my_seconds > play > end tell > > The same AppleScripts can be used in Leopard and Tiger, with the name of the application in the script set to "QuickTime Player" instead of "QuickTime Player 7". If you have Lion, you'll have to download QuickTime Player 7 to use these AppleScripts. Snow Leopard users will find it on their install DVDs. Here's the Knowledge Base Article on "Installing QuickTime Player 7 on Mac OS X v.10.6 or Later" that describes the process and has a download link for Lion: > http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3678 > > To set up your speed-up solution in Lion: > 1. Get QuickTime Player 7 and install it from: > http://support.apple.com/kb/DL923 > 2. Open AppleScript editor from your Utilities folder (in Finder Command-Shift-U, then type "a p" and Command-Down arrow to launch the AppleScript editor). > 3. Set your AppleScripts to display in the status menu bar in preferences by pressing Command-Comma, then navigating to "Show Script menu in menu bar" and checking this option (VO-Space). You can check this works by using VO-M-M or Control-F8 to navigate to the status menu bar. VoiceOver should say, "AppleScript", and if you arrow down the menu you'll find "Open Scripts Folder" and "Open AppleScript Editor", followed by category folders of AppleScripts in the "/Library/Scripts" folder on your Mac. This is the "Computer Scripts Folder" that is one of the submenu options to open under "Open Scripts Folder", and is also where the VoiceOver scripts for "Time of Day" are stored (under the VoiceOver category folder at the bottom of the list). Press escape to leave navigating the menu options and return to your AppleScript preferences and continue navigating through the options of the General tab. By default, the "Show Computer scripts" box is checked, which is what gives you ac > cess to the list of folders from the status menu bar. You may optionally select the radio button to show application scripts at "top". This can slightly speed up navigation to scripts you add to the menu, by placing them before the category folders. Command-W to close the preferences window. > > 4. Copy and paste in the scripts into the AppleScript editor window. I use comment lines that start with a left parenthesis followed by a star, and that end with a star followed by a right parenthesis, to remind me that the current speed is set to 2x and give source of this AppleScript's MacOSX hints article, but you can skip over these in the first script and use VO-down arrow in mail to navigate to the "tell application "iTunes"" line, then make sure you're at start of the line with Command-left arrow. Hold down the Shift key for selection, then start arrowing down until you get to the end of the script. You can keep arrowing down until you reach my text description, just to be sure you've gotten everything, and then up arrow again so that the last highlighted line is the "end tell" command. As long as you continue to hold down the Shift key while pressing Up or Down arrow, you can continue to move forwards and backwards to refine your selection. When you've selected > the whole script, release the Shift key and press Command-C to copy. Then Command-Tab to switch back to the AppleScript editor, and paste the script in with Command-V. If you want to break this up into steps, you can always copy and paste your AppleScript selection in to a TextEdit file to review, then undertake using the AppleScript Editor at a later time. (I frequently just save parts of tasks I want to work on in TextEdit files.) > > 5. To check things are working before I save the AppleScript, I'll first start a podcast playing in iTunes. Then I'll switch back to the AppleScript Editor window with Command-tab and use Command-R to run the script (rather than just compiling it with Command-K). If this works as it should, QuickTime Player 7 will be launched, and you'll start hearing the same podcast playing at faster speed in QuickTime Player 7. I'll actually paste the first script to speed up playing into the AppleScript Editor, then open a second window with Command-N, and paste the second AppleScript to resume iTunes playback before starting my playback checks. So after using Command-R to run the first script, and hearing the podcast play at speed, I'll use Command-accent (where accent is the leftmost key in the row of number on an English language input keyboard) to switch to the second AppleScript Editor window, and press Command-R to run it, and check whether playback transfers back to iTunes at n > ormal speed. > > 6. Save your AppleScripts using Command-S under names you select, e.g. "Play Faster" and "Normal Speed". I use Command-Shift-G in Finder to navigate to my account's Library folder by typing: > ~/Library/ > into the dialog window and pressing return. Then I create a folder named "Scripts". (This may not be case sensitive, but I use a capital "S"). I save these scripts to my "User Scripts File" -- the location pointed to under the AppleScript menu. You can also save these to the general /Library/Scripts folder of your hard drive, if you have permission to write in that folder. > 6a. Incidentally, I found a really quick way to make the Library folder under my account visible under Lion that does not involve typing a command in Terminal or getting TinkerTool to configure this. Go to Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes web page that describes "Installing AppleScripts under OS X Lion": > http://dougscripts.com/itunes/2011/07/installing-applescripts-under-os-x-lion/ > 6b. Navigate to the link for "download this AppleScript applet" and download the file (Option-Return). > 6c. Open the "Show Downloads" window in Safari with Command-Option-L and navigate to the group, interact twice to get to the "Make Users Library Folder Visible" downloaded item group items, and navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the "Show in Finder" button then press (VO-Space). > 6d. Command-Down arrow to launch the applet in Finder. Your Library folder is now visible. (This took a few seconds to do, and much longer to type out instructions.) > > 7. You can now use these AppleScripts to speed up and slow down your listening of podcasts and audiobooks. Start a podcast, audiobook, or movie track playing in iTunes, then navigate to the AppleScripts menu and select your "Play Faster" AppleScript to shift playback to QuickTime Player 7. Then select the "Normal Speed" AppleScript to shift back to iTunes and record your current position before pausing/stopping. > > There are some limitations on this: QuickTime Player can only be used on tracks without DRM, so Audible audiobooks or books purchased from the iTunes Store cannot be sped up this way. Neither can you use this to speed up commercial movies or TV shows that you purchase, but video clips without DRM will work. Also, I assume you use the "Get Info" (Command-I) shortcut to change the "Media Kind" pop up menu setting of your tracks to "Podcast" or "Audiobook" on the Option tab, and to check the boxes for "Remember playback position" and "Skip when shuffling". If I download Eric's podcast about list recorder from its Dropbox location and add it to my iTunes library, it will go into my Music library, and will start playing from the beginning of the track, because iTunes has no way of distinguishing this as a podcast unless you make the changes. > > The AppleScripts menu on the status menu bar can be accessed from any app, so you can navigate to other applications and work while listening to the podcast. You can do more complicated setups that involved assigning keyboard shortcuts or making these AppleScripts into Services with Automator instead. This is just a very basic way to solve the problem. > > If you want to read more about this basis these AppleScripts, check out the Mac OS X Hints web page from 2006 on "Listen to podcasts at 1.5x speed": > http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060103000452805 > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 03:21:11 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:21:11 +1100 Subject: got another question iTunes and sound cards In-Reply-To: <33E24306-0CB4-4656-A97E-4AA649830B2D@gmail.com> References: <77C82910-4864-46F2-9B1C-5D711D808F23@gmail.com> <33E24306-0CB4-4656-A97E-4AA649830B2D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <092B1029-1738-4EDC-BDD7-9EC9B84EBD0C@gmail.com> hi. hmm do you know which games? thanks. Maria Chapman bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com On 25/02/2012, at 1:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > vlc will do it. and you have to hit I think it is control b. if that does not work try cmd b. It will only work in some of the gtame s though not all. > > Take care. > On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > >> HI. have usb head phones and speakers. I can change the audio source with voice over and with things like skype, either to use the usb headphones or speakers. is it possible to do this with itunes? am playing rs games and would like to have itunes play through the speakers and rs game's voice to play through the usb headset. is this possible? if not, is there a player where i can change the audio source? >> will vlc do it? and speaking of rs games is it possible to play a stream instead of the background music with the mac? control or command b doesn't seem to work. >> >> ok I'm off now. lol >> thanks >> again >> Maria from australia >> Newbie mac user. >> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >> will get you fb as well as email & iImessage. >> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 04:08:15 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:08:15 -0800 Subject: click to problems Message-ID: Hello. the flick to plugin is supposed to present a element controller tool bar you can use to play flash content. Now it's just saying flash flash. No tool bar. How can I fix this? I've been everywhere in the settings and cannot figure this out. Take care all. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 04:15:06 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:15:06 -0800 Subject: got another question iTunes and sound cards In-Reply-To: <092B1029-1738-4EDC-BDD7-9EC9B84EBD0C@gmail.com> References: <77C82910-4864-46F2-9B1C-5D711D808F23@gmail.com> <33E24306-0CB4-4656-A97E-4AA649830B2D@gmail.com> <092B1029-1738-4EDC-BDD7-9EC9B84EBD0C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <524A3BCE-8C54-4787-B542-AA874BC2E0A5@gmail.com> i think uno does it. I have not tested the rest lol! I think 1000 miles does as well but that looks like that's it. On Feb 24, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: > hi. hmm do you know which games? > > thanks. > > Maria Chapman > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > > > > On 25/02/2012, at 1:10 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> vlc will do it. and you have to hit I think it is control b. if that does not work try cmd b. It will only work in some of the gtame s though not all. >> >> Take care. >> On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: >> >>> HI. have usb head phones and speakers. I can change the audio source with voice over and with things like skype, either to use the usb headphones or speakers. is it possible to do this with itunes? am playing rs games and would like to have itunes play through the speakers and rs game's voice to play through the usb headset. is this possible? if not, is there a player where i can change the audio source? >>> will vlc do it? and speaking of rs games is it possible to play a stream instead of the background music with the mac? control or command b doesn't seem to work. >>> >>> ok I'm off now. lol >>> thanks >>> again >>> Maria from australia >>> Newbie mac user. >>> bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com >>> will get you fb as well as email & iImessage. >>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 08:40:49 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:40:49 +0000 Subject: best facebook app for ios In-Reply-To: <361C5AA0-0F94-468A-8424-4DB7B73B7A86@yahoo.com> References: <27E166E2-395B-434B-A8FF-14F80B0B9FF3@gmail.com> <361C5AA0-0F94-468A-8424-4DB7B73B7A86@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9ECF63C2-BD7B-4288-8084-EB397B73DC96@gmail.com> i like facely but does seem a bit odd but it is usable On Feb 25, 2012, at 12:16 AM, Ed Worrell wrote: > Hello, if you are looking for full app go with Facely, there are some bugs with using it with VO, but it is pretty good. The one that I use is Status Report, the developer has recently made it accessible with Voiceover. This isn't a full facebook client app though. It is mainly for reading, commenting, and posting on all the major social sites, There is one thing that is a little wierd with the app. It doesn't refresh at launch, you have to make it refresh, this is done by finding the first status message, double tapping and holding then while holding dragging down towards the home button and it will manually refresh the statuses. > hth > Ed > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 11:03:39 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:03:39 +1100 Subject: help with stopping keys from dinging Message-ID: <-8544288521145661741@unknownmsgid> When I use the keyboard to do anything the keys make a ding noise. I know I did something stupid to cause the keys to make a ding noise when I use them. Can someone please tell me how to turn off the ding noise? Margaret Sent from my iPhone From a.beech at bigpond.net.au Sat Feb 25 11:13:40 2012 From: a.beech at bigpond.net.au (Adrian Beech) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:13:40 +1000 Subject: Installing a clean instance of Lion OS/X then the server components? Message-ID: <000001ccf3ae$873b47d0$95b1d770$@bigpond.net.au> G'day all, I bit the bullet and got around to blowing away all the partitions on my Mac Mini this afternoon and installing Lion from a self-created DVD image. I'm at the stage after going through the configuration and doing all the software updates of attempting to install the server components (which I had previously purchased) and for the life of me I cannot get the App Store to let me redownload the thing. I can see Lion OS/X Server listed in the purchases list but when clicking on the item the only action options I get is copy link or tell a friend - there is no download / redownload link, button, etc, whatsoever, anywhere. Anyone here had success installing Lion on a clean HD with no previous OS/X present then redownload/reinstalling the server components? I'm starting to get a bad feeling that I'll need to install Snow Leopard Server first then do the Lion install afterwards. Thanks if you can help. Cheers. AB From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 11:28:42 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:28:42 +1100 Subject: Pod casts on Itunes Message-ID: <3939960072130829329@unknownmsgid> Can someone recommend a good place that I can go to get some pod casts on how to use itunes on my mac. I need to know pretty well everything about how to use itunes. I have a podcast from Vision Australia which is creating and adding items to a play list using VO. Thanks for anyones help. Margaret Sent from my iPhone From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 11:33:25 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:33:25 +1100 Subject: moving between documents in text edit Message-ID: <628135826213764249@unknownmsgid> When I have a number of documents open in text edit how do I move from one document to another document. Margaret Sent from my iPhone From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sat Feb 25 12:09:38 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:09:38 +0100 Subject: help with stopping keys from dinging In-Reply-To: <-8544288521145661741@unknownmsgid> References: <-8544288521145661741@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <77070A22-75CE-479B-9BA4-1E76B1FF29C0@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Margaret, Your keys are dinging because you have the caps lock on. Cheers, Anne On 25 Feb 2012, at 12:03, Margaret Booth wrote: > When I use the keyboard to do anything the keys make a ding noise. I > know I did something stupid to cause the keys to make a ding noise > when I use them. Can someone please tell me how to turn off the ding > noise? > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sat Feb 25 12:12:57 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:12:57 +0100 Subject: moving between documents in text edit In-Reply-To: <628135826213764249@unknownmsgid> References: <628135826213764249@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Hello Margaret, There are two ways of going from one document to another in TextEdit or any other application. You can use the Window Chooser Menu (VO-F2-F2), or you can circulate through them with Cmd-Accent which, on a British keyboadr is to the left of Z and on a US keyboard is to the left of 1 I believe. Cheers, Anne On 25 Feb 2012, at 12:33, Margaret Booth wrote: > When I have a number of documents open in text edit how do I move > from one document to another document. > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Feb 25 14:04:18 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:04:18 -0400 Subject: real problems with my Mac Mini. Message-ID: <6B6FFA7EF9B641A8B8E3DA38081292C2@MainComputer> Hi folks: I have a Mac Mini running Lion. Everytime I try to accomplish a task on my computer, finder reports that it is busy. It takes ages to accomplish anything. What's the best way to resolve this problem? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6914 (20120225) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From zkline at speedpost.net Sat Feb 25 14:31:05 2012 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:31:05 -0800 Subject: real problems with my Mac Mini. In-Reply-To: <6B6FFA7EF9B641A8B8E3DA38081292C2@MainComputer> References: <6B6FFA7EF9B641A8B8E3DA38081292C2@MainComputer> Message-ID: Hi Jim, This is coming from someone who does not actually have a mini himself, however I have heard this problem is caused by not having a monitor attached. Do you have one you could connect? If not, there are adapters you can apparently use, though I don't know much about them myself. If that isn't a problem, I'm not sure what to suggest. Hope this helps, Zack. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2012, at 6:04 AM, "Jim Noseworthy" wrote: > Hi folks: > > I have a Mac Mini running Lion. Everytime I try to accomplish a task on my computer, finder reports that it is busy. It takes ages to accomplish anything. > > What's the best way to resolve this problem? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6914 (20120225) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Feb 25 15:40:58 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:40:58 -0400 Subject: real problems with my Mac Mini. In-Reply-To: References: <6B6FFA7EF9B641A8B8E3DA38081292C2@MainComputer> Message-ID: <45A99A96E85A4635938AE25708C61277@MainComputer> Zack: Thanks for the tip. It does seem to work better when I hook up my monitor; however, funny thing is, that the unit was working fine without a monitor for the first month after I purchased the unit. For those who may have more information, I am using the latest Mac Mini Server with the latest updates to Lion. Very strange business. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachary Kline" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:31 AM Subject: Re: real problems with my Mac Mini. > Hi Jim, > This is coming from someone who does not actually have a mini himself, > however I have heard this problem is caused by not having a monitor > attached. Do you have one you could connect? If not, there are adapters > you can apparently use, though I don't know much about them myself. If > that isn't a problem, I'm not sure what to suggest. > Hope this helps, > Zack. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 25, 2012, at 6:04 AM, "Jim Noseworthy" > wrote: > >> Hi folks: >> >> I have a Mac Mini running Lion. Everytime I try to accomplish a task on >> my computer, finder reports that it is busy. It takes ages to accomplish >> anything. >> >> What's the best way to resolve this problem? >> >> Thanks all over the place gang. >> >> >> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy >> Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 6914 (20120225) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6914 (20120225) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6914 (20120225) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 16:40:00 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:40:00 -0800 Subject: Installing a clean instance of Lion OS/X then the server components? In-Reply-To: <000001ccf3ae$873b47d0$95b1d770$@bigpond.net.au> References: <000001ccf3ae$873b47d0$95b1d770$@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <1B005C59-5A20-4569-B33D-B2403FD9D2BD@gmail.com> Try option clicking. the download button and it should work. If not try it in a new account. you have to option click the purchases button, then option click the perches then option click the download button and it should work. I did this with the 10.7.3 update. Take care. On Feb 25, 2012, at 3:13 AM, Adrian Beech wrote: > G'day all, > > > > I bit the bullet and got around to blowing away all the partitions on my Mac > Mini this afternoon and installing Lion from a self-created DVD image. I'm > at the stage after going through the configuration and doing all the > software updates of attempting to install the server components (which I had > previously purchased) and for the life of me I cannot get the App Store to > let me redownload the thing. I can see Lion OS/X Server listed in the > purchases list but when clicking on the item the only action options I get > is copy link or tell a friend - there is no download / redownload link, > button, etc, whatsoever, anywhere. > > > > Anyone here had success installing Lion on a clean HD with no previous OS/X > present then redownload/reinstalling the server components? > > > > I'm starting to get a bad feeling that I'll need to install Snow Leopard > Server first then do the Lion install afterwards. > > > > Thanks if you can help. > > > > Cheers. > > AB > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From fitzcl at centurylink.net Sat Feb 25 16:43:48 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:43:48 -0800 Subject: Terminology question Message-ID: <000001ccf3dc$a6d148f0$f473dad0$@net> What does "eject" mean on my Mac, and how does one do that? Catherine Golding Olympia, Washington From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 16:52:50 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:52:50 -0800 Subject: Terminology question In-Reply-To: <000001ccf3dc$a6d148f0$f473dad0$@net> References: <000001ccf3dc$a6d148f0$f473dad0$@net> Message-ID: <3A81D53A-F965-437E-8A7C-CB8CF3C08F1A@gmail.com> That means to safly remove the drive. It unmounts the drive from the system and you can then safly unplug it. On Feb 25, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Catherine G wrote: > What does "eject" mean on my Mac, and how does one do that? > > > > Catherine Golding > > Olympia, Washington > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sat Feb 25 17:27:55 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:27:55 -1000 Subject: Terminology question In-Reply-To: <3A81D53A-F965-437E-8A7C-CB8CF3C08F1A@gmail.com> References: <000001ccf3dc$a6d148f0$f473dad0$@net> <3A81D53A-F965-437E-8A7C-CB8CF3C08F1A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Catherine, The eject key on your Mac can also be used to eject DVDs and CDs in your optical drive. Using the shortcut Command-E for "eject" will also eject these optical media, or unmount drives. If you install applications that you downloaded as .dmg files, after you move the new app to your Applications folder or run the installation, you can eject the .dmg file and move it to the Trash. Command-E works when you are focused on the .dmg file in Finder, as well as finding the option in the context menu (with VO-Shift-M). I recall that holding down the eject key when you boot or reboot your Mac is one of the ways to try forcing a DVD or CD in the optical drive to eject, when it is giving you problems. The eject key is also used for certain shortcuts like for putting your Mac to sleep (Command-Option-Eject). Except, on the late 2011 MacBook Air models, they've removed the eject key so I have to press the power button and then press "s" to sleep the machine. P.S. I recall there was a question earlier about why there were no .dmg files for apps that you install from the Mac App Store. Software is often distributed as "disk image" files because these files get certain permission privileges in the system, like mounted hard drives. Since the Mac App Store is supposed to be a secure source of software, you don't need an intermediate step that has to be granted special privileges to install apps, hence no .dmg file is necessary for that application -- it just gets installed directly with nothing to send to the Trash afterwards. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > That means to safly remove the drive. It unmounts the drive from the system and you can then safly unplug it. > On Feb 25, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Catherine G wrote: > >> What does "eject" mean on my Mac, and how does one do that? >> >> >> >> Catherine Golding >> >> Olympia, Washington >> From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 17:42:11 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 09:42:11 -0800 Subject: Terminology question In-Reply-To: References: <000001ccf3dc$a6d148f0$f473dad0$@net> <3A81D53A-F965-437E-8A7C-CB8CF3C08F1A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51231EF1-5213-445C-AC91-0FEC02FE4909@gmail.com> Acutally when you reboot yoru mac you hold down the bottompart of the mouse pad to eject a dvd drive. Take care all. On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Catherine, > > The eject key on your Mac can also be used to eject DVDs and CDs in your optical drive. Using the shortcut Command-E for "eject" will also eject these optical media, or unmount drives. If you install applications that you downloaded as .dmg files, after you move the new app to your Applications folder or run the installation, you can eject the .dmg file and move it to the Trash. Command-E works when you are focused on the .dmg file in Finder, as well as finding the option in the context menu (with VO-Shift-M). I recall that holding down the eject key when you boot or reboot your Mac is one of the ways to try forcing a DVD or CD in the optical drive to eject, when it is giving you problems. > > The eject key is also used for certain shortcuts like for putting your Mac to sleep (Command-Option-Eject). Except, on the late 2011 MacBook Air models, they've removed the eject key so I have to press the power button and then press "s" to sleep the machine. > > P.S. I recall there was a question earlier about why there were no .dmg files for apps that you install from the Mac App Store. Software is often distributed as "disk image" files because these files get certain permission privileges in the system, like mounted hard drives. Since the Mac App Store is supposed to be a secure source of software, you don't need an intermediate step that has to be granted special privileges to install apps, hence no .dmg file is necessary for that application -- it just gets installed directly with nothing to send to the Trash afterwards. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> That means to safly remove the drive. It unmounts the drive from the system and you can then safly unplug it. >> On Feb 25, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Catherine G wrote: >> >>> What does "eject" mean on my Mac, and how does one do that? >>> >>> >>> >>> Catherine Golding >>> >>> Olympia, Washington >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Feb 25 17:47:03 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:47:03 -0400 Subject: file coppying problems Message-ID: <84F5D1AC172B412AA400C1BAAF1D18B6@MainComputer> Hi Folks: I am trying to populate a folder on my mac with files from an external drive. It appears that I am opening the folders where I want to place the files; however, they end up in the root of the drive. Any help would be appreciated all over the place. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6915 (20120225) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Feb 25 18:39:37 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:39:37 -0400 Subject: Authenticacion question. Message-ID: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> Hi Folks: I must have done something somewhere because every time I copy a file, I need to authenticate myself. How do I overcome this issue gang? Thanks. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6915 (20120225) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 18:39:10 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:39:10 -0800 Subject: file coppying problems In-Reply-To: <84F5D1AC172B412AA400C1BAAF1D18B6@MainComputer> References: <84F5D1AC172B412AA400C1BAAF1D18B6@MainComputer> Message-ID: What happens if you do this in list view? try that and then happens he folders wherein you want the stuff to go then copy and see if that works. that's all I can come up right about now as I'm having a fight with my own comp. lol! On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I am trying to populate a folder on my mac with files from an external drive. It appears that I am opening the folders where I want to place the files; however, they end up in the root of the drive. > > Any help would be appreciated all over the place. > > > > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6915 (20120225) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 18:50:17 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:50:17 -0800 Subject: Authenticacion question. In-Reply-To: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> References: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> Message-ID: <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> Actually I want to know the same thing. I was afraid to ask so thanks for doing this. I have this every time I move or copy a folder. thanks all for any ideas. On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I must have done something somewhere because every time I copy a file, I need to authenticate myself. > > How do I overcome this issue gang? > > Thanks. > > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6915 (20120225) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Feb 25 19:18:08 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:18:08 -0400 Subject: FTP Problems Message-ID: Hi Again Folks: This must be my day to day. I am using Pure-Ftp server on my Mac Mini and I am able to view files in the anonymous directory but I cannot download anything. Is this a rights issue on the Mac or a Pure-FTPD issue. Thanks. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6915 (20120225) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From jpanarese at mac-access.net Sat Feb 25 19:34:46 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:34:46 -0500 Subject: Authenticacion question. In-Reply-To: <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> References: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <94A34CF7-0DE8-4CF6-826B-72056CC42E1C@mac-access.net> It might be a simple question, but did something change in ownership permissions? Unless you are copying files and folders into places that require administration access, it shouldn't be happening, particularly if you are the only user and it's your computer. There is some terminal commands that you can try running, if you are comfortable doing so using the chown command to assure you have ownership of the files and folders in your home folder. . Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Feb 25, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually I want to know the same thing. I was afraid to ask so thanks for doing this. I have this every time I move or copy a folder. > > thanks all for any ideas. > On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> I must have done something somewhere because every time I copy a file, I need to authenticate myself. >> >> How do I overcome this issue gang? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6915 (20120225) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sat Feb 25 20:05:34 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:05:34 -1000 Subject: Authenticacion question. In-Reply-To: <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> References: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <86AC77B1-2F24-4266-ACAF-78C78D711419@mac.com> Hi Sarah and Jim, I found a discussion in the Apple Support forums that talks about this permissions problem under Lion, and steps that people have taken to solve it. The described symptoms sound familiar -- for example, preferences not being saved. The solution involves using Terminal to type in a command that sets permissions for your home folder so that you have read and write access, but so that everyone else has only read access. Since I'm newly using Lion, and not having this permissions problem, I'm not able to try this out. Here are the instructions. (I'm pasting in the version "for less experienced users"): For less experienced terminal users, these are more explicit instructions to follow cgDesign's method from page 1: Step 0: Be sure to complete ALL steps Step 1: Open the application Terminal.app (Utilities folder inside of your applications folder) Step 2: when the prompt comes up, on the line that ends in "$", paste in (exactly) chmod -R -N ~ and hit the enter key on your keyboard, and wait a couple of minutes for this to complete. You may see several messages regarding invalid arguments - these are OK. Step 3: When the prompt ending in "$" returns, paste in (exactly) chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public When the prompt ending in "$" returns, you have completed all steps. You can quit Terminal.app. There is some debate about whether using the first command is necessary. The second command with the "everyone deny delete" argument is what fixes the permissions issue. Both use the "chmod" command -- spelled "c h m o d" -- which changes the file mode access bits (permissions), and/or modifies access control lists associated with these files. Unix is case sensitive, and inserting spaces between keys to commands -- like the hyphen and capital letter R, or the hyphen and capital letter N in the first command -- alters the meaning of the command. Instead of applying the command recursively to subfolders, which is what the "-R" key indicates, typing the "R" with a space before it would turn it into an argument -- a (non-existent) folder with the name "R" in the present directory. The tilde symbol is preceded by a space, because this is the argument to the command, and is the shorthand way of indicating the current user's home directory. All Terminal commands are entered by pressing the "return" key after you've typed the line. So, Sarah, open a Terminal session in Finder: 1. Command-Shift-U to go to "Utilities", press "t" to go to Terminal, and Command-Down arrow to launch Terminal 2. In the Terminal window, type or paste in: chmod -R -N ~ then press return. (That's the chmod command, followed by a space, followed by hyphen capital R, followed by a space, followed by hyphen capital N, followed by a space, followed by the tilde symbol.) 3. Wait a few minutes for this to complete, and ignore error messages. 4. Type or paste in: chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public then press return. (That's the chmod command, followed by a space, filed by a plus sign and small letter a, followed by the three words in quotes, "everyone deny delete", followed by a space, followed by a list of folders in your home directory, all separated by spaces. These arguments all begin with a tilde symbol followed by a slash, which indicates your top level home directory. So in addition to tilde slash by itself as the first argument, you'll be typing tilde slash before all the default folders that should appear in your home directory: Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Library, Movies, Music, Pictures, and Public. The names of all these folders begin with a capital letter. The command is a single line. 5.Wait a while for the last command to be executed, then quite your Terminal app with Command-q. Sarah, this should fix your not being able to write to the Documents folder on your home directory. For some reason, your permissions access was being superseded, so that either the system or some other application could change the permissions to those folders, locking you out. Either the system access control lists or default permissions were not set correctly, so repairing permissions didn't fix this. This would also explain why preferences weren't being saved, since you wouldn't be able to write to the files in your account's Library folder. Probably one person should try this out to see whether this works. I'll give the URL of the Apple Support Forum thread that discusses this. It's titled "Lion Permissions Problem": https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3202084?start=0&tstart=0 HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 25, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually I want to know the same thing. I was afraid to ask so thanks for doing this. I have this every time I move or copy a folder. > > thanks all for any ideas. > On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> I must have done something somewhere because every time I copy a file, I need to authenticate myself. >> >> How do I overcome this issue gang? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >> From moriond at mac.com Sat Feb 25 20:15:42 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:15:42 -1000 Subject: FTP Problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <700C87DA-0FC4-4E63-AF7E-2EC2AD48ADA5@mac.com> Hi Jim, See my reply to Sarah on the authentication problem thread. You may only need to try typing the second command in Terminal: chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public then press return. See whether that works. P.S. I asume that anyone who tries this has at least some minimal experience using Terminal. Cheers, Esther On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Again Folks: > > This must be my day to day. > > I am using Pure-Ftp server on my Mac Mini and I am able to view files in the anonymous directory but I cannot download anything. > > Is this a rights issue on the Mac or a Pure-FTPD issue. > > Thanks. > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 21:10:49 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:10:49 -0800 Subject: Authenticacion question. In-Reply-To: <86AC77B1-2F24-4266-ACAF-78C78D711419@mac.com> References: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> <86AC77B1-2F24-4266-ACAF-78C78D711419@mac.com> Message-ID: <6E1DBB04-06DD-43E9-85D8-0B113E3374CD@gmail.com> I'll try this out. thanks for this. I'm not well versed ib the terminal but I"m slowly learning. gain thanks for this On Feb 25, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah and Jim, > > I found a discussion in the Apple Support forums that talks about this permissions problem under Lion, and steps that people have taken to solve it. The described symptoms sound familiar -- for example, preferences not being saved. The solution involves using Terminal to type in a command that sets permissions for your home folder so that you have read and write access, but so that everyone else has only read access. Since I'm newly using Lion, and not having this permissions problem, I'm not able to try this out. > > Here are the instructions. (I'm pasting in the version "for less experienced users"): > > For less experienced terminal users, these are more explicit instructions to follow cgDesign's method from page 1: > > Step 0: > Be sure to complete ALL steps > > Step 1: > Open the application Terminal.app (Utilities folder inside of your applications folder) > > Step 2: > when the prompt comes up, on the line that ends in "$", paste in (exactly) > > chmod -R -N ~ > > and hit the enter key on your keyboard, and wait a couple of minutes for this to complete. You may see several messages regarding invalid arguments - these are OK. > > Step 3: > When the prompt ending in "$" returns, paste in (exactly) > > chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public > > When the prompt ending in "$" returns, you have completed all steps. You can quit Terminal.app. > > > There is some debate about whether using the first command is necessary. The second command with the "everyone deny delete" argument is what fixes the permissions issue. Both use the "chmod" command -- spelled "c h m o d" -- which changes the file mode access bits (permissions), and/or modifies access control lists associated with these files. Unix is case sensitive, and inserting spaces between keys to commands -- like the hyphen and capital letter R, or the hyphen and capital letter N in the first command -- alters the meaning of the command. Instead of applying the command recursively to subfolders, which is what the "-R" key indicates, typing the "R" with a space before it would turn it into an argument -- a (non-existent) folder with the name "R" in the present directory. The tilde symbol is preceded by a space, because this is the argument to the command, and is the shorthand way of indicating the current user's home directory. > > All Terminal commands are entered by pressing the "return" key after you've typed the line. > > So, Sarah, open a Terminal session in Finder: > 1. Command-Shift-U to go to "Utilities", press "t" to go to Terminal, and Command-Down arrow to launch Terminal > 2. In the Terminal window, type or paste in: > chmod -R -N ~ > then press return. (That's the chmod command, followed by a space, followed by hyphen capital R, followed by a space, followed by hyphen capital N, followed by a space, followed by the tilde symbol.) > 3. Wait a few minutes for this to complete, and ignore error messages. > 4. Type or paste in: > chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public > > then press return. (That's the chmod command, followed by a space, filed by a plus sign and small letter a, followed by the three words in quotes, "everyone deny delete", followed by a space, followed by a list of folders in your home directory, all separated by spaces. These arguments all begin with a tilde symbol followed by a slash, which indicates your top level home directory. So in addition to tilde slash by itself as the first argument, you'll be typing tilde slash before all the default folders that should appear in your home directory: Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Library, Movies, Music, Pictures, and Public. The names of all these folders begin with a capital letter. The command is a single line. > > 5.Wait a while for the last command to be executed, then quite your Terminal app with Command-q. > > Sarah, this should fix your not being able to write to the Documents folder on your home directory. For some reason, your permissions access was being superseded, so that either the system or some other application could change the permissions to those folders, locking you out. Either the system access control lists or default permissions were not set correctly, so repairing permissions didn't fix this. This would also explain why preferences weren't being saved, since you wouldn't be able to write to the files in your account's Library folder. > > Probably one person should try this out to see whether this works. I'll give the URL of the Apple Support Forum thread that discusses this. It's titled "Lion Permissions Problem": > https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3202084?start=0&tstart=0 > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 25, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually I want to know the same thing. I was afraid to ask so thanks for doing this. I have this every time I move or copy a folder. >> >> thanks all for any ideas. >> On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> I must have done something somewhere because every time I copy a file, I need to authenticate myself. >>> >>> How do I overcome this issue gang? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sat Feb 25 21:15:54 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:15:54 -1000 Subject: Authenticacion question. In-Reply-To: <6E1DBB04-06DD-43E9-85D8-0B113E3374CD@gmail.com> References: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> <86AC77B1-2F24-4266-ACAF-78C78D711419@mac.com> <6E1DBB04-06DD-43E9-85D8-0B113E3374CD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <89559F71-DEAA-4DB7-AF0F-F8E9B159BECC@mac.com> Hi Sarah, You might just try the second (long) command by itself. You can copy it to a TextEdit window, then review it. Then try opening Terminal and pasting it in by itself and pressing return. That's the one for: chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public I think there are preference settings that Travis once outlines that make it easier to use Terminal. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'll try this out. > > thanks for this. I'm not well versed ib the terminal but I"m slowly learning. > > gain thanks for this > On Feb 25, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Sarah and Jim, >> >> I found a discussion in the Apple Support forums that talks about this permissions problem under Lion, and steps that people have taken to solve it. The described symptoms sound familiar -- for example, preferences not being saved. The solution involves using Terminal to type in a command that sets permissions for your home folder so that you have read and write access, but so that everyone else has only read access. Since I'm newly using Lion, and not having this permissions problem, I'm not able to try this out. >> >> Here are the instructions. (I'm pasting in the version "for less experienced users"): >> >> For less experienced terminal users, these are more explicit instructions to follow cgDesign's method from page 1: >> >> Step 0: >> Be sure to complete ALL steps >> >> Step 1: >> Open the application Terminal.app (Utilities folder inside of your applications folder) >> >> Step 2: >> when the prompt comes up, on the line that ends in "$", paste in (exactly) >> >> chmod -R -N ~ >> >> and hit the enter key on your keyboard, and wait a couple of minutes for this to complete. You may see several messages regarding invalid arguments - these are OK. >> >> Step 3: >> When the prompt ending in "$" returns, paste in (exactly) >> >> chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public >> >> When the prompt ending in "$" returns, you have completed all steps. You can quit Terminal.app. >> >> >> There is some debate about whether using the first command is necessary. The second command with the "everyone deny delete" argument is what fixes the permissions issue. Both use the "chmod" command -- spelled "c h m o d" -- which changes the file mode access bits (permissions), and/or modifies access control lists associated with these files. Unix is case sensitive, and inserting spaces between keys to commands -- like the hyphen and capital letter R, or the hyphen and capital letter N in the first command -- alters the meaning of the command. Instead of applying the command recursively to subfolders, which is what the "-R" key indicates, typing the "R" with a space before it would turn it into an argument -- a (non-existent) folder with the name "R" in the present directory. The tilde symbol is preceded by a space, because this is the argument to the command, and is the shorthand way of indicating the current user's home directory. >> >> All Terminal commands are entered by pressing the "return" key after you've typed the line. >> >> So, Sarah, open a Terminal session in Finder: >> 1. Command-Shift-U to go to "Utilities", press "t" to go to Terminal, and Command-Down arrow to launch Terminal >> 2. In the Terminal window, type or paste in: >> chmod -R -N ~ >> then press return. (That's the chmod command, followed by a space, followed by hyphen capital R, followed by a space, followed by hyphen capital N, followed by a space, followed by the tilde symbol.) >> 3. Wait a few minutes for this to complete, and ignore error messages. >> 4. Type or paste in: >> chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public >> >> then press return. (That's the chmod command, followed by a space, filed by a plus sign and small letter a, followed by the three words in quotes, "everyone deny delete", followed by a space, followed by a list of folders in your home directory, all separated by spaces. These arguments all begin with a tilde symbol followed by a slash, which indicates your top level home directory. So in addition to tilde slash by itself as the first argument, you'll be typing tilde slash before all the default folders that should appear in your home directory: Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Library, Movies, Music, Pictures, and Public. The names of all these folders begin with a capital letter. The command is a single line. >> >> 5.Wait a while for the last command to be executed, then quite your Terminal app with Command-q. >> >> Sarah, this should fix your not being able to write to the Documents folder on your home directory. For some reason, your permissions access was being superseded, so that either the system or some other application could change the permissions to those folders, locking you out. Either the system access control lists or default permissions were not set correctly, so repairing permissions didn't fix this. This would also explain why preferences weren't being saved, since you wouldn't be able to write to the files in your account's Library folder. >> >> Probably one person should try this out to see whether this works. I'll give the URL of the Apple Support Forum thread that discusses this. It's titled "Lion Permissions Problem": >> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3202084?start=0&tstart=0 >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 25, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually I want to know the same thing. I was afraid to ask so thanks for doing this. I have this every time I move or copy a folder. >>> >>> thanks all for any ideas. >>> On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks: >>>> >>>> I must have done something somewhere because every time I copy a file, I need to authenticate myself. >>>> >>>> How do I overcome this issue gang? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Feb 25 22:37:03 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:37:03 -0400 Subject: the ./configure command in terminal. Message-ID: <18E6B60C97E940F7B661170ED9099BE2@MainComputer> Hi Folks: I am trying to compile Pure-FTPD server however the ./configure command doesn't work. What can I do to solve this problem? Thanks all over the place. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6915 (20120225) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Feb 25 23:18:36 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:18:36 +0000 Subject: Type In Braille Message-ID: <4F496C4C.3020300@techno-chat.net> Christopher H TAFN member Just purchased this app thanks to a friend recommendation. I like this app a lot already. Sent my first text message using it. Is certainly a lot quicker and easier than typing on the virtual keyboard. The latest version even allows you to share your text both on Twitter and/or Facebook. The app is ?2.99 here in the UK. From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Sat Feb 25 20:46:36 2012 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 07:46:36 +1100 Subject: moving between documents in text edit In-Reply-To: <628135826213764249@unknownmsgid> References: <628135826213764249@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Margaret, command tab moves between apps. command ` moves between windows in the same app. the above is for all apps that have multiple windows. Sean On 25/02/2012, at 10:33 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > When I have a number of documents open in text edit how do I move > from one document to another document. > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From blindman75 at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 01:51:58 2012 From: blindman75 at gmail.com (Shaun Oliver) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:21:58 +1030 Subject: the ./configure command in terminal. In-Reply-To: <18E6B60C97E940F7B661170ED9099BE2@MainComputer> References: <18E6B60C97E940F7B661170ED9099BE2@MainComputer> Message-ID: <4F49903E.5030903@gmail.com> the ./configure command isn't a command, it's a shell script that's run to facilitate the setting up of hte source before you compile it. it works out the paths to your c/c++ compilers, what libs you hae on your system, what libs the source needs and whether or not it can function without them, whether or not you want to bild a dynamicly link binary or a staticly linked one. you might want to first, check the permissions on the script, and make sure it's marked as executable. hth -------------------- Shaun VK5FESE -------------------- On 26/02/2012 09:07, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I am trying to compile Pure-FTPD server however the ./configure command doesn't work. > > What can I do to solve this problem? > > Thanks all over the place. > > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6915 (20120225) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Feb 26 05:27:09 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:27:09 -0500 Subject: How to do this on a Mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You use the terminal in osx just like a dos prompt in windows. All the same instructions still apply in your case. simply enter the telnet address, and after terminal connects, type the string they expect, and then you can close the telnet session. (hint, use the preferences of terminal to assign this string to a function key, so you don't have to look it up or remember it each time) It's also possible to automate the process completely, but that would take a bit of unix shell scripting, which if you're not comfortable with unix terminals probably would cause more confusion than help, so I'm just tossing it out there as an idea. hth. From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Feb 26 05:39:15 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:39:15 -0500 Subject: CrushFtp Server. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50A50D67-7C71-4896-AD9B-8212CC65B588@softcon.com> I still highly recomend ncftpd from ncftpd software. It's free for 3 users or less, and an unlimited license is only 100 bucks, so it's well worth the price. I registered my copy back in the early 90s, and still use the program, it's cross platform, and works a treat on just about any os you want to try it on. And, it has an ftp client as well (ncftp) which adds some nice enhancements to the standard ftp command-line client that comes with osx. You can find it at http://www.ncftpd.com (at least you could last time I checked). From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Feb 26 06:13:56 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 01:13:56 -0500 Subject: Speeding up podcasts on iphone In-Reply-To: <154967EB-EEE9-4C79-8058-66E4D89F1A62@Mac-Access.net> References: <6CF53A2EDF8B4E6FB28137B677A2570A@DD952WB1> <154967EB-EEE9-4C79-8058-66E4D89F1A62@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <03F51A61-D28E-4663-A2D1-2F4C8228CDCB@softcon.com> If you want to speed up playback on the mac, just use quicktime, it has a window with controls that allow you to speed up playback, as well as adjust other playback parameters, including pitch. I use this feature all the time. hth From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Feb 26 06:19:16 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 01:19:16 -0500 Subject: the ./configure command in terminal. In-Reply-To: <18E6B60C97E940F7B661170ED9099BE2@MainComputer> References: <18E6B60C97E940F7B661170ED9099BE2@MainComputer> Message-ID: <05DB3194-28C9-4188-8E0D-8188A2B060C5@softcon.com> Having never compiled pure ftp, I can't say whether it even has a configure command. You really need to check the install instructions for the program, it will give you proper commands for compiling from source. And, if it doesn't, then usually you'd ls the contents of the folder, and look for other txt files that might explain the install process. Failing that, just type make, and perhaps it will go along and do it's thing without any issues at all, though this isn't usually the case, especially with complex or large programs, though small simple programs will often make use of this process. I think I saw in another thread you are using it, but if you're still having trouble, drop a line, and I'll go take a look. No use for pure ftp myself, since I use ncftpd here. From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 26 06:32:02 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:32:02 -1000 Subject: Speeding up podcasts on iphone In-Reply-To: <03F51A61-D28E-4663-A2D1-2F4C8228CDCB@softcon.com> References: <6CF53A2EDF8B4E6FB28137B677A2570A@DD952WB1> <154967EB-EEE9-4C79-8058-66E4D89F1A62@Mac-Access.net> <03F51A61-D28E-4663-A2D1-2F4C8228CDCB@softcon.com> Message-ID: Hi Travis, You're perfectly correct about being able to control playback speed with QuickTime Player (and VLC, for that matter), and I used the A/V window access of QuickTime Player all through Snow Leopard. However, the reason new users aren't familiar with this is that the default version of QuickTime Player for Snow Leopard and Lion doesn't support this interface any more. The older version of QuickTime Player is now called "QuickTime Player 7" and can be found on the Snow Leopard install discs. However, since Lion doesn't come with install discs in general, you have to download this if you want it on you system. You can get a copy of QuickTime Player 7 from: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL923 Then just use Command-K to toggle the A/V controls between show and hide, and navigate to the sliders for controlling playback speed. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 25, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > If you want to speed up playback on the mac, just use quicktime, it has a window with controls that allow you to speed up playback, as well as adjust other playback parameters, including pitch. > I use this feature all the time. > hth From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sun Feb 26 12:29:40 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:29:40 -0400 Subject: CrushFtp Server. In-Reply-To: <50A50D67-7C71-4896-AD9B-8212CC65B588@softcon.com> References: <50A50D67-7C71-4896-AD9B-8212CC65B588@softcon.com> Message-ID: <8AAF1F192F5F41158EA03F31B0D22160@MainComputer> Travis: I thought about that one but I believe the price is now $190 for a single user. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 1:39 AM Subject: Re: CrushFtp Server. >I still highly recomend ncftpd from ncftpd software. It's free for 3 >users or less, and an unlimited license is only 100 bucks, so it's well >worth the price. > I registered my copy back in the early 90s, and still use the program, > it's cross platform, and works a treat on just about any os you want to > try it on. > And, it has an ftp client as well (ncftp) which adds some nice > enhancements to the standard ftp command-line client that comes with osx. > You can find it at > http://www.ncftpd.com > (at least you could last time I checked). > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6915 (20120225) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6915 (20120225) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 26 13:56:53 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 03:56:53 -1000 Subject: ncftpd [was Re: CrushFtp Server.] In-Reply-To: <8AAF1F192F5F41158EA03F31B0D22160@MainComputer> References: <50A50D67-7C71-4896-AD9B-8212CC65B588@softcon.com> <8AAF1F192F5F41158EA03F31B0D22160@MainComputer> Message-ID: <980F1A55-891E-435E-BFD4-DF0882141980@mac.com> Hi, I took a look at the ncftpd pages, and the product looks very good. For other list readers, I'll summarize that a personal use license that supports up to 3 (simultaneous) users is free, as Travis stated. Also, if you are running this server for an educational domain, there is a free, unlimited-user educational license. Current licensing for commercial use is now $199 per server for an unlimited number of concurrent users. However, if there are 50 or fewer concurrent users, the license is $129. Jim, did you solve your authentication issues? That might be a factor in not being able to run the ./configure for setting up CrushFtp Server. Cheers, Esther On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:29 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Travis: > > I thought about that one but I believe the price is now $190 for a single user. > > Thanks. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 1:39 AM > Subject: Re: CrushFtp Server. > > >> I still highly recomend ncftpd from ncftpd software. It's free for 3 users or less, and an unlimited license is only 100 bucks, so it's well worth the price. >> I registered my copy back in the early 90s, and still use the program, it's cross platform, and works a treat on just about any os you want to try it on. >> And, it has an ftp client as well (ncftp) which adds some nice enhancements to the standard ftp command-line client that comes with osx. >> You can find it at >> http://www.ncftpd.com >> (at least you could last time I checked). >> From khwicca at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 14:32:15 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 09:32:15 -0500 Subject: Torrent app In-Reply-To: <980F1A55-891E-435E-BFD4-DF0882141980@mac.com> References: <50A50D67-7C71-4896-AD9B-8212CC65B588@softcon.com> <8AAF1F192F5F41158EA03F31B0D22160@MainComputer> <980F1A55-891E-435E-BFD4-DF0882141980@mac.com> Message-ID: <16566E9B-AE31-4F74-9A06-2DA2EDC96AE4@gmail.com> Is there a recommended app for downloading these that you all like? Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com Skype: lostonsylvane Twitter: kwicca From weavermicha at googlemail.com Sun Feb 26 15:16:12 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:16:12 +0000 Subject: deleting contacts Message-ID: <4f4a48dc.334cb40a.6f0a.5e8e@mx.google.com> how do you delete contacts in mac mail? i think i have done this a while back but can't remember how to do it. i go into the contacts panel via the windows menu on my macbook, choose the contact, go into edit, delete, press enter and nothing happens at all. i tried opening the context menu but that option doesn't seem to be available. i looked in the mail help and it said something about pressing the remove contact button only i don't appear to see that option when in the contacts list as it only seems to show the things for creating an email when i tab through the options next to the contact i want to delete. From khwicca at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 15:11:14 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:11:14 -0500 Subject: APP RECOMMENDATIONS Message-ID: I AM WONDERING ABOUT THE FOLLOWING. WHAT DO FOLKS USE FOR SPLITTING LARGE MP3 FILES, OR SPLITTING WHOLE CDS INTO SINGLE TRACKS? WHAT DO FOLKS USE FOR CONVERTING FILES? FINALLY, WHAT DO FOLKS USE FOR SITES LIKE EASYNEWS? SAFARI SEEMS TO BE QUITE CUMBERSOME FOR DEALING WITH NTP READING. THANKS. KRISTEEN From ilovecountrymusic483 at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 15:19:26 2012 From: ilovecountrymusic483 at gmail.com (matthew Dyer) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:19:26 -0500 Subject: real problems with my Mac Mini. In-Reply-To: <45A99A96E85A4635938AE25708C61277@MainComputer> References: <6B6FFA7EF9B641A8B8E3DA38081292C2@MainComputer> <45A99A96E85A4635938AE25708C61277@MainComputer> Message-ID: <0A2E9999-FC47-4382-8170-B36DF0E03239@gmail.com> Hi all, Speaking of having a monitor connected. I have a 15 inch connected, but it keepps going to sleep. I checked the display settings and there all set not to go to sleep. Any ideas on this one. I know the monitor works since my couson had it hooked up to an older pc and it works fine. Thanks. Matthew On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Zack: > > Thanks for the tip. > > It does seem to work better when I hook up my monitor; however, funny thing is, that the unit was working fine without a monitor for the first month after I purchased the unit. > > For those who may have more information, I am using the latest Mac Mini Server with the latest updates to Lion. > > Very strange business. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachary Kline" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:31 AM > Subject: Re: real problems with my Mac Mini. > > >> Hi Jim, >> This is coming from someone who does not actually have a mini himself, however I have heard this problem is caused by not having a monitor attached. Do you have one you could connect? If not, there are adapters you can apparently use, though I don't know much about them myself. If that isn't a problem, I'm not sure what to suggest. >> Hope this helps, >> Zack. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 25, 2012, at 6:04 AM, "Jim Noseworthy" wrote: >> >>> Hi folks: >>> >>> I have a Mac Mini running Lion. Everytime I try to accomplish a task on my computer, finder reports that it is busy. It takes ages to accomplish anything. >>> >>> What's the best way to resolve this problem? >>> >>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>> >>> >>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6914 (20120225) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6914 (20120225) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6914 (20120225) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sun Feb 26 15:59:42 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:59:42 -0400 Subject: ncftpd [was Re: CrushFtp Server.] In-Reply-To: <980F1A55-891E-435E-BFD4-DF0882141980@mac.com> References: <50A50D67-7C71-4896-AD9B-8212CC65B588@softcon.com> <8AAF1F192F5F41158EA03F31B0D22160@MainComputer> <980F1A55-891E-435E-BFD4-DF0882141980@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Esther: Is there a front end on that server? I'm not very good with terminal. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: ncftpd [was Re: CrushFtp Server.] > Hi, > > I took a look at the ncftpd pages, and the product looks very good. For > other list readers, I'll summarize that a personal use license that > supports up to 3 (simultaneous) users is free, as Travis stated. Also, if > you are running this server for an educational domain, there is a free, > unlimited-user educational license. > > Current licensing for commercial use is now $199 per server for an > unlimited number of concurrent users. However, if there are 50 or fewer > concurrent users, the license is $129. > > Jim, did you solve your authentication issues? That might be a factor in > not being able to run the ./configure for setting up CrushFtp Server. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:29 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Travis: >> >> I thought about that one but I believe the price is now $190 for a single >> user. >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 1:39 AM >> Subject: Re: CrushFtp Server. >> >> >>> I still highly recomend ncftpd from ncftpd software. It's free for 3 >>> users or less, and an unlimited license is only 100 bucks, so it's well >>> worth the price. >>> I registered my copy back in the early 90s, and still use the program, >>> it's cross platform, and works a treat on just about any os you want to >>> try it on. >>> And, it has an ftp client as well (ncftp) which adds some nice >>> enhancements to the standard ftp command-line client that comes with >>> osx. >>> You can find it at >>> http://www.ncftpd.com >>> (at least you could last time I checked). >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6916 (20120226) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6916 (20120226) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From gunn at tznet.com Sun Feb 26 20:36:11 2012 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:36:11 -0600 Subject: Authenticacion question. In-Reply-To: <94A34CF7-0DE8-4CF6-826B-72056CC42E1C@mac-access.net> References: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> <94A34CF7-0DE8-4CF6-826B-72056CC42E1C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hello: If you are running Lion and copying to the root of the drive, this is why. John On Feb 25, 2012, at 1:34 PM, John Panarese wrote: > It might be a simple question, but did something change in ownership permissions? Unless you are copying files and folders into places that require administration access, it shouldn't be happening, particularly if you are the only user and it's your computer. There is some terminal commands that you can try running, if you are comfortable doing so using the chown command to assure you have ownership of the files and folders in your home folder. > . > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Feb 25, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually I want to know the same thing. I was afraid to ask so thanks for doing this. I have this every time I move or copy a folder. >> >> thanks all for any ideas. >> On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> I must have done something somewhere because every time I copy a file, I need to authenticate myself. >>> >>> How do I overcome this issue gang? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6915 (20120225) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 21:31:56 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:31:56 -0800 Subject: Authenticacion question. In-Reply-To: References: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> <94A34CF7-0DE8-4CF6-826B-72056CC42E1C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Actually we're not. We're just moving stuff between folders inside drives, at least I am. Hopefully the authentication trick worked. 'll try this in about 2 hours when I have to move something. Take care. On Feb 26, 2012, at 12:36 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Hello: > > If you are running Lion and copying to the root of the drive, this is why. > > John > > > On Feb 25, 2012, at 1:34 PM, John Panarese wrote: > >> It might be a simple question, but did something change in ownership permissions? Unless you are copying files and folders into places that require administration access, it shouldn't be happening, particularly if you are the only user and it's your computer. There is some terminal commands that you can try running, if you are comfortable doing so using the chown command to assure you have ownership of the files and folders in your home folder. >> . >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Feb 25, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually I want to know the same thing. I was afraid to ask so thanks for doing this. I have this every time I move or copy a folder. >>> >>> thanks all for any ideas. >>> On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks: >>>> >>>> I must have done something somewhere because every time I copy a file, I need to authenticate myself. >>>> >>>> How do I overcome this issue gang? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6915 (20120225) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 21:55:51 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:55:51 -0800 Subject: can't save a document in garage band. Message-ID: Hello to all. I tried to save a document in garage band I'm working on and I get this. The document ?tcjwb mic.band? could not be saved. That's it. no errors or nothing. I do have ownership of this folder and my permissions are set right so dunno what's up. Take care all and hope you all can help. Thanks. Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. From eric_caron at mac-access.net Sun Feb 26 22:08:17 2012 From: eric_caron at mac-access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:08:17 -0500 Subject: Speeding up podcasts on the Mac [was Re: Speeding up podcasts on iphone] In-Reply-To: <6C42245C-0966-4BE7-9B32-48ED231F0BCF@Mac-Access.net> References: <6CF53A2EDF8B4E6FB28137B677A2570A@DD952WB1> <154967EB-EEE9-4C79-8058-66E4D89F1A62@Mac-Access.net> <6C42245C-0966-4BE7-9B32-48ED231F0BCF@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Dear Listers, Success! It is truly a time saver to have the ability to speed up podcasts. Thanks to Esther and the support she provides this is a current option. Hopefully it will eventually be a standard part of iTunes. I had some trouble initially completing this task because the process is very detailed. I often thought I had followed the directions exactly only to find I had missed something. I also was not familiar with the Script Editor. At the end I had everything working correctly but didn't even know it. When I entered the Scripts Menu now showing on the Status menu I didn't arrow down far enough to see the new scripts waiting there for me. And, thanks to Esther and this new experience I'll be listening to suggestions for other helpful scripts. Eric Caron On 2012, at 9:29 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Wow! Esther and others, > > I am going to make every effort to follow these amazing directions. This is going to push my Mac skills to the limit. I'm looking forward to adding this capability to iTunes. > > > I'm very grateful, and slightly intimidated by this undertaking. I'm glad the list support is out there! > > ERic Caron > > > On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Eric, >> >> You wrote: >> >>> So am I right that this is not a option on the Mac in iTunes? >>> Thanks again! I'm off to power through some podcast listening. >> >> >> iTunes can't change the speed of playback, but VLC and QuickTime Player can. The version of QuickTime Player that was used by default before Snow Leopard, and which is now called QuickTime Player 7, has an A/V (audio/visual) control window. You show or hide it with the shortcut Command-K, and there are sliders that let you adjust playback speed, along with volume, balance, treble, bass, pitch, along with video brightness, color, and tint. This is AppleScriptable, so what I do is use a pair of AppleScripts to switch between playing a track in iTunes and Quick Time Player 7. >> >> The first AppleScript pauses iTunes, notes the time into the track where playing was paused, then starts QuickTime Player 7 playing at that time at a faster rate of my choosing. Here it is coded for 2 times speed, pasted in below: >> >> (* >> Play selected track in QuickTime at 2x speed >> Source: Mac OS X hints Jan 6, 2006 Play this podcast at 1.5x >> http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060103000452805 >> *) >> tell application "iTunes" >> try >> pause >> set my_track to location of current track >> set my_seconds to player position >> on error >> set my_track to location of item 1 of selection >> set my_seconds to 0 >> end try >> end tell >> >> tell application "QuickTime Player 7" >> open my_track >> set my_movie to first document >> set sound volume of my_movie to 256 --set volume to 100% >> set ts to time scale of my_movie >> set current time of my_movie to my_seconds * ts >> set rate of my_movie to 2.0 -- starts playing >> activate >> end tell >> >> The second AppleScript handles passing control back to iTunes, and notes the current playing position from QuickTime Player 7, so that when you go back to the track in iTunes its bookmarked position will resume from where you left off in QuickTime Player 7. If you play to the end of a podcast in QuickTime Player 7, the time will be set to the beginning of the podcast when you switch back to iTunes, just as though you had played through the podcast in iTunes. One warning is that you have to keep the track that is playing in iTunes as the current track, in order to correctly pass back the time with the second AppleScript. I don't imagine people will try navigating to different podcasts, radio streams, etc. in iTunes while listening to the speeded up podcast or audiobook in QuickTime Player 7, but in principle, they could. Here's the pasted in version of the AppleScript to return control to iTunes at normal playback speed: >> >> tell application "iTunes" >> set my_track to location of current track >> end tell >> >> tell application "QuickTime Player 7" >> set my_movie to first document >> set ts to time scale of my_movie >> set my_seconds to (current time of my_movie) / ts >> close my_movie >> end tell >> >> tell application "iTunes" >> set player position to my_seconds >> play >> end tell >> >> The same AppleScripts can be used in Leopard and Tiger, with the name of the application in the script set to "QuickTime Player" instead of "QuickTime Player 7". If you have Lion, you'll have to download QuickTime Player 7 to use these AppleScripts. Snow Leopard users will find it on their install DVDs. Here's the Knowledge Base Article on "Installing QuickTime Player 7 on Mac OS X v.10.6 or Later" that describes the process and has a download link for Lion: >> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3678 >> >> To set up your speed-up solution in Lion: >> 1. Get QuickTime Player 7 and install it from: >> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL923 >> 2. Open AppleScript editor from your Utilities folder (in Finder Command-Shift-U, then type "a p" and Command-Down arrow to launch the AppleScript editor). >> 3. Set your AppleScripts to display in the status menu bar in preferences by pressing Command-Comma, then navigating to "Show Script menu in menu bar" and checking this option (VO-Space). You can check this works by using VO-M-M or Control-F8 to navigate to the status menu bar. VoiceOver should say, "AppleScript", and if you arrow down the menu you'll find "Open Scripts Folder" and "Open AppleScript Editor", followed by category folders of AppleScripts in the "/Library/Scripts" folder on your Mac. This is the "Computer Scripts Folder" that is one of the submenu options to open under "Open Scripts Folder", and is also where the VoiceOver scripts for "Time of Day" are stored (under the VoiceOver category folder at the bottom of the list). Press escape to leave navigating the menu options and return to your AppleScript preferences and continue navigating through the options of the General tab. By default, the "Show Computer scripts" box is checked, which is what gives you > ac >> cess to the list of folders from the status menu bar. You may optionally select the radio button to show application scripts at "top". This can slightly speed up navigation to scripts you add to the menu, by placing them before the category folders. Command-W to close the preferences window. >> >> 4. Copy and paste in the scripts into the AppleScript editor window. I use comment lines that start with a left parenthesis followed by a star, and that end with a star followed by a right parenthesis, to remind me that the current speed is set to 2x and give source of this AppleScript's MacOSX hints article, but you can skip over these in the first script and use VO-down arrow in mail to navigate to the "tell application "iTunes"" line, then make sure you're at start of the line with Command-left arrow. Hold down the Shift key for selection, then start arrowing down until you get to the end of the script. You can keep arrowing down until you reach my text description, just to be sure you've gotten everything, and then up arrow again so that the last highlighted line is the "end tell" command. As long as you continue to hold down the Shift key while pressing Up or Down arrow, you can continue to move forwards and backwards to refine your selection. When you've selecte > d >> the whole script, release the Shift key and press Command-C to copy. Then Command-Tab to switch back to the AppleScript editor, and paste the script in with Command-V. If you want to break this up into steps, you can always copy and paste your AppleScript selection in to a TextEdit file to review, then undertake using the AppleScript Editor at a later time. (I frequently just save parts of tasks I want to work on in TextEdit files.) >> >> 5. To check things are working before I save the AppleScript, I'll first start a podcast playing in iTunes. Then I'll switch back to the AppleScript Editor window with Command-tab and use Command-R to run the script (rather than just compiling it with Command-K). If this works as it should, QuickTime Player 7 will be launched, and you'll start hearing the same podcast playing at faster speed in QuickTime Player 7. I'll actually paste the first script to speed up playing into the AppleScript Editor, then open a second window with Command-N, and paste the second AppleScript to resume iTunes playback before starting my playback checks. So after using Command-R to run the first script, and hearing the podcast play at speed, I'll use Command-accent (where accent is the leftmost key in the row of number on an English language input keyboard) to switch to the second AppleScript Editor window, and press Command-R to run it, and check whether playback transfers back to iTunes at > n >> ormal speed. >> >> 6. Save your AppleScripts using Command-S under names you select, e.g. "Play Faster" and "Normal Speed". I use Command-Shift-G in Finder to navigate to my account's Library folder by typing: >> ~/Library/ >> into the dialog window and pressing return. Then I create a folder named "Scripts". (This may not be case sensitive, but I use a capital "S"). I save these scripts to my "User Scripts File" -- the location pointed to under the AppleScript menu. You can also save these to the general /Library/Scripts folder of your hard drive, if you have permission to write in that folder. >> 6a. Incidentally, I found a really quick way to make the Library folder under my account visible under Lion that does not involve typing a command in Terminal or getting TinkerTool to configure this. Go to Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes web page that describes "Installing AppleScripts under OS X Lion": >> http://dougscripts.com/itunes/2011/07/installing-applescripts-under-os-x-lion/ >> 6b. Navigate to the link for "download this AppleScript applet" and download the file (Option-Return). >> 6c. Open the "Show Downloads" window in Safari with Command-Option-L and navigate to the group, interact twice to get to the "Make Users Library Folder Visible" downloaded item group items, and navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the "Show in Finder" button then press (VO-Space). >> 6d. Command-Down arrow to launch the applet in Finder. Your Library folder is now visible. (This took a few seconds to do, and much longer to type out instructions.) >> >> 7. You can now use these AppleScripts to speed up and slow down your listening of podcasts and audiobooks. Start a podcast, audiobook, or movie track playing in iTunes, then navigate to the AppleScripts menu and select your "Play Faster" AppleScript to shift playback to QuickTime Player 7. Then select the "Normal Speed" AppleScript to shift back to iTunes and record your current position before pausing/stopping. >> >> There are some limitations on this: QuickTime Player can only be used on tracks without DRM, so Audible audiobooks or books purchased from the iTunes Store cannot be sped up this way. Neither can you use this to speed up commercial movies or TV shows that you purchase, but video clips without DRM will work. Also, I assume you use the "Get Info" (Command-I) shortcut to change the "Media Kind" pop up menu setting of your tracks to "Podcast" or "Audiobook" on the Option tab, and to check the boxes for "Remember playback position" and "Skip when shuffling". If I download Eric's podcast about list recorder from its Dropbox location and add it to my iTunes library, it will go into my Music library, and will start playing from the beginning of the track, because iTunes has no way of distinguishing this as a podcast unless you make the changes. >> >> The AppleScripts menu on the status menu bar can be accessed from any app, so you can navigate to other applications and work while listening to the podcast. You can do more complicated setups that involved assigning keyboard shortcuts or making these AppleScripts into Services with Automator instead. This is just a very basic way to solve the problem. >> >> If you want to read more about this basis these AppleScripts, check out the Mac OS X Hints web page from 2006 on "Listen to podcasts at 1.5x speed": >> http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060103000452805 >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 22:13:33 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:13:33 -0500 Subject: Using Mac as bluetooth keyboard Message-ID: I read back in December about a couple of apps, iKeyboard and Type2Phone that let you type to your iPad or iPod or iPhone using the Mac's keyboard through bluetooth. I can't seem to figure out which would be best, and I don't want to spend money if neither will do what I want. I want to be able to type using the keyboard. I also want to be able to double-tap on buttons and do other bluetooth keyboard shortcuts. Will either of these work? Jane From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 26 22:34:05 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:34:05 -1000 Subject: can't save a document in garage band. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Sarah, I think this is related to the Lion permissions problems I posted about earlier. I found the thread at the Apple Support forums when I was trying to track down reports of problems related to your inability to write to the Documents folder in your account last week. I think I recommended creating a new folder in your account, and saving to there. Did you ever resolve the issue about being able to write to your ~/Documents folder? Some further research showed that the following alternative to using the Terminal command line to fix things might work. This was a later post from someone who looked for a solution based on the success reported with the command-line instructions, but who wasn't comfortable working outside the GUI. BatChmod (downloaded free with a donate option) fixed all my permission problems. I just chose the User folder and chose "Change ownership and privileges" and Clear ACL's. Here's the link to BatChmod at MacUpdate: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/6440/batchmod Just for background, the people who reported problems in the Apple Support Community thread on Lion permissions had authentication problems similar to the ones you report, and tried repairing permissions. I'll paste in the post that started the thread, so you can see whether it sounds relevant to your case: Jul 22, 2011 11:17 PM I'm struggling with what I think is a permissions problem on Lion.. I purchased a new MBAir 11" and restored my files by copying them manually from a backup of my home folder - this is always how I have done it. I did have to change the Library folder flag to unhidden as found somewhere else on this forum. The first issue I encountered was that every time I logged out and logged back in, the machine was 'reset' to the state it was in hours earlier. I couldn't change any settings, they would reset themselves. (e.g. changing trackpad settings would reset when I exited system preferences). Also if I used Safari to browse a bunch of sites, none of the history was saved. The history would show everything up to a certain point and wouldn't save anything past that. I created a new user account and that account was obviously fine. So I copied all of my files from the old user account to the new user account. The problem I am having now is that any time I try to change a file in my home folder (e.g. rename) i am prompted for my password. I tried to reset permissions but that doesn't help. Would appreciate any suggestions. TIA. MacBook Air, Mac OS X (10.7) Write back with more details if that doesn't work for you. Best, Esther On Feb 26, 2012, at 11:55 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello to all. I tried to save a document in garage band I'm working on and I get this. > > The document ?tcjwb mic.band? could not be saved. > > That's it. no errors or nothing. I do have ownership of this folder and my permissions are set right so dunno what's up. > > Take care all and hope you all can help. > > Thanks. > > > Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 22:44:33 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:44:33 -0800 Subject: can't save a document in garage band. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6A637817-711C-4762-B26E-C85CA60700E3@gmail.com> Actually I do have read right permitions in the documents folder. I checked that. but I still cannot save that file and I made some changes to it. This will really come in handy when I start work on my single again so I sort of need this fixed. I'll try the file thing you sent me see if that works On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > I think this is related to the Lion permissions problems I posted about earlier. I found the thread at the Apple Support forums when I was trying to track down reports of problems related to your inability to write to the Documents folder in your account last week. I think I recommended creating a new folder in your account, and saving to there. Did you ever resolve the issue about being able to write to your ~/Documents folder? > > Some further research showed that the following alternative to using the Terminal command line to fix things might work. This was a later post from someone who looked for a solution based on the success reported with the command-line instructions, but who wasn't comfortable working outside the GUI. > > BatChmod (downloaded free with a donate option) fixed all my permission problems. I just chose the User folder and chose "Change ownership and privileges" and Clear ACL's. > > Here's the link to BatChmod at MacUpdate: > http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/6440/batchmod > > Just for background, the people who reported problems in the Apple Support Community thread on Lion permissions had authentication problems similar to the ones you report, and tried repairing permissions. I'll paste in the post that started the thread, so you can see whether it sounds relevant to your case: > > Jul 22, 2011 11:17 PM > I'm struggling with what I think is a permissions problem on Lion.. > > I purchased a new MBAir 11" and restored my files by copying them manually from a backup of my home folder - this is always how I have done it. I did have to change the Library folder flag to unhidden as found somewhere else on this forum. > > The first issue I encountered was that every time I logged out and logged back in, the machine was 'reset' to the state it was in hours earlier. I couldn't change any settings, they would reset themselves. (e.g. changing trackpad settings would reset when I exited system preferences). Also if I used Safari to browse a bunch of sites, none of the history was saved. The history would show everything up to a certain point and wouldn't save anything past that. > > I created a new user account and that account was obviously fine. So I copied all of my files from the old user account to the new user account. The problem I am having now is that any time I try to change a file in my home folder (e.g. rename) i am prompted for my password. I tried to reset permissions but that doesn't help. > > Would appreciate any suggestions. TIA. > MacBook Air, Mac OS X (10.7) > > > Write back with more details if that doesn't work for you. > > Best, > > Esther > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 11:55 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello to all. I tried to save a document in garage band I'm working on and I get this. >> >> The document ?tcjwb mic.band? could not be saved. >> >> That's it. no errors or nothing. I do have ownership of this folder and my permissions are set right so dunno what's up. >> >> Take care all and hope you all can help. >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 22:53:23 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:53:23 -0800 Subject: can't save a document in garage band. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7DF2F3EC-7C17-49F9-BCDF-C900125E71B6@gmail.com> Nope I hate to say it but that failed. I still cannot save the document and I still get the error. Ok so what do I do now? I don't want to create a new document and it will be the same with my single. I really don't feel like starting over. Take care. On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > I think this is related to the Lion permissions problems I posted about earlier. I found the thread at the Apple Support forums when I was trying to track down reports of problems related to your inability to write to the Documents folder in your account last week. I think I recommended creating a new folder in your account, and saving to there. Did you ever resolve the issue about being able to write to your ~/Documents folder? > > Some further research showed that the following alternative to using the Terminal command line to fix things might work. This was a later post from someone who looked for a solution based on the success reported with the command-line instructions, but who wasn't comfortable working outside the GUI. > > BatChmod (downloaded free with a donate option) fixed all my permission problems. I just chose the User folder and chose "Change ownership and privileges" and Clear ACL's. > > Here's the link to BatChmod at MacUpdate: > http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/6440/batchmod > > Just for background, the people who reported problems in the Apple Support Community thread on Lion permissions had authentication problems similar to the ones you report, and tried repairing permissions. I'll paste in the post that started the thread, so you can see whether it sounds relevant to your case: > > Jul 22, 2011 11:17 PM > I'm struggling with what I think is a permissions problem on Lion.. > > I purchased a new MBAir 11" and restored my files by copying them manually from a backup of my home folder - this is always how I have done it. I did have to change the Library folder flag to unhidden as found somewhere else on this forum. > > The first issue I encountered was that every time I logged out and logged back in, the machine was 'reset' to the state it was in hours earlier. I couldn't change any settings, they would reset themselves. (e.g. changing trackpad settings would reset when I exited system preferences). Also if I used Safari to browse a bunch of sites, none of the history was saved. The history would show everything up to a certain point and wouldn't save anything past that. > > I created a new user account and that account was obviously fine. So I copied all of my files from the old user account to the new user account. The problem I am having now is that any time I try to change a file in my home folder (e.g. rename) i am prompted for my password. I tried to reset permissions but that doesn't help. > > Would appreciate any suggestions. TIA. > MacBook Air, Mac OS X (10.7) > > > Write back with more details if that doesn't work for you. > > Best, > > Esther > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 11:55 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello to all. I tried to save a document in garage band I'm working on and I get this. >> >> The document ?tcjwb mic.band? could not be saved. >> >> That's it. no errors or nothing. I do have ownership of this folder and my permissions are set right so dunno what's up. >> >> Take care all and hope you all can help. >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of WICS Radio America. Check us out on the web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 26 22:57:58 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:57:58 -1000 Subject: can't save a document in garage band. In-Reply-To: <6A637817-711C-4762-B26E-C85CA60700E3@gmail.com> References: <6A637817-711C-4762-B26E-C85CA60700E3@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sarah, My reading of the Apple Support discussion posts indicated that those people had read and write permissions, too, and also tried repairing permissions, but were still having problems. This could be due to ownership, as John Panarese indicated, but the reason that you could still have problems after checking out permissions is that if other apps or sources have permission to access those files/folders you could still get locked out. Also, permissions for some operations depend on the permissions setting of the parent directory, which you're not checking. What's common to your reported problems from last weekend as well as this weekend, is that the folder giving you problems are the ones set up by default for your account like ~/Documents ~/Music etc. These were the folders that were listed for that Terminal command-line solution I proposed earlier. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 26, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually I do have read right permitions in the documents folder. I checked that. but I still cannot save that file and I made some changes to it. > > This will really come in handy when I start work on my single again so I sort of need this fixed. > > I'll try the file thing you sent me see if that works From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sun Feb 26 23:05:54 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:05:54 -0400 Subject: Authenticacion question. In-Reply-To: References: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> <94A34CF7-0DE8-4CF6-826B-72056CC42E1C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Thanks much John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gunn" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Authenticacion question. > Hello: > > If you are running Lion and copying to the root of the drive, this is why. > > John > > > On Feb 25, 2012, at 1:34 PM, John Panarese wrote: > >> It might be a simple question, but did something change in ownership >> permissions? Unless you are copying files and folders into places that >> require administration access, it shouldn't be happening, particularly if >> you are the only user and it's your computer. There is some terminal >> commands that you can try running, if you are comfortable doing so using >> the chown command to assure you have ownership of the files and folders >> in your home folder. >> . >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Feb 25, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually I want to know the same thing. I was afraid to ask so thanks >>> for doing this. I have this every time I move or copy a folder. >>> >>> thanks all for any ideas. >>> On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks: >>>> >>>> I must have done something somewhere because every time I copy a file, >>>> I need to authenticate myself. >>>> >>>> How do I overcome this issue gang? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy >>>> Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>> signature database 6915 (20120225) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6917 (20120226) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6917 (20120226) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From moriond at mac.com Sun Feb 26 23:30:44 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:30:44 -1000 Subject: can't save a document in garage band. In-Reply-To: <7DF2F3EC-7C17-49F9-BCDF-C900125E71B6@gmail.com> References: <7DF2F3EC-7C17-49F9-BCDF-C900125E71B6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8AA08060-F5DA-4CB6-A53D-142EE00E8824@mac.com> Hi Sarah, Can you save the document either under a different name, or else change the folder location to another one that you have created? In the save dialog window try using Command-Shift-G or other combinations to folders you know you can write to. For example, if you created a folder in your home directory named "My Stuff", first use Command-Shift-H in the dialog window for saving to set your default directory to your home account. The use the Command-Shift-G "go to folder" shortcut, and type in "My Stuff" (without the quotation marks) into the text box, and press return. On the main dialog window you should have the same filename as you originally chose, ?tcjwb mic.band?. If you just try to save it to the new folder location, which was a folder you created under your Home directory, this may work. Let us know whether this works. Cheers, Esther On Feb 26, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Nope I hate to say it but that failed. I still cannot save the document and I still get the error. Ok so what do I do now? I don't want to create a new document and it will be the same with my single. I really don't feel like starting over. > > Take care. From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Sun Feb 26 23:36:05 2012 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:36:05 +1100 Subject: Network drives on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> <94A34CF7-0DE8-4CF6-826B-72056CC42E1C@mac-access.net> Message-ID: Hi All. I wish to know how to resolve the below error: The operation can?t be completed because the original item for ?audio_books? can?t be found. This is a network drive using SMB. I select shift command k to bring up the network dialog. Navigate to the SMB drive and try and access one of the folders. I have looked at the key shane and do not see any entries here for username or password. If I use command k to open the related dialog. Then select the hostname for the smb shared drive. I get the above error as well. It is the same name in both cases. If I use command k and the ip address for the shared drive. I can access the folders with no problems from the initial authentication. I have to select one or multiple shared folders at the initial authentication. If I try and go back to the same shared drive with the IP address to open another folder. I get the above error. I want to be able to access it via the hostname and open shared folders when I like. This looks like a mount issue/authenication. Any ideas? How do you clear the known network shared drives? Sean From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 23:42:05 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:42:05 -0800 Subject: can't save a document in garage band. In-Reply-To: References: <6A637817-711C-4762-B26E-C85CA60700E3@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hmm. maybe I'll do the long 2 command lines and then try again. I don't think it can hurt. lol! I'll keep everyone posted. On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > My reading of the Apple Support discussion posts indicated that those people had read and write permissions, too, and also tried repairing permissions, but were still having problems. This could be due to ownership, as John Panarese indicated, but the reason that you could still have problems after checking out permissions is that if other apps or sources have permission to access those files/folders you could still get locked out. Also, permissions for some operations depend on the permissions setting of the parent directory, which you're not checking. > > What's common to your reported problems from last weekend as well as this weekend, is that the folder giving you problems are the ones set up by default for your account like ~/Documents ~/Music etc. These were the folders that were listed for that Terminal command-line solution I proposed earlier. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually I do have read right permitions in the documents folder. I checked that. but I still cannot save that file and I made some changes to it. >> >> This will really come in handy when I start work on my single again so I sort of need this fixed. >> >> I'll try the file thing you sent me see if that works > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Feb 26 23:47:30 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:47:30 -0800 Subject: Authenticacion question. In-Reply-To: <86AC77B1-2F24-4266-ACAF-78C78D711419@mac.com> References: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> <86AC77B1-2F24-4266-ACAF-78C78D711419@mac.com> Message-ID: <946B4B19-B241-4F1E-9A72-4B046019A09B@gmail.com> Ok. goign back to this thread and sorry for bouncing I'm getting these messages. what's up. I don't like the sound of them. Here is an export. Failed to clear ACL on file 7-Zip File Manager ? win7.app: Operation not permitted chmod: Failed to clear ACL on file _26C5A5C16DC67BAA01E199 ? win7.app: Operation not permitted chmod: Failed to clear ACL on file _2D1F402522862B82F63CF9 ? win7.app: Operation not permitted chmod: Failed to clear ACL on file Accessibility On-Screen Keyboard ? win7.app: Operation not permitted Looks like the problem is bigger then I anticipated. Take care all. On Feb 25, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah and Jim, > > I found a discussion in the Apple Support forums that talks about this permissions problem under Lion, and steps that people have taken to solve it. The described symptoms sound familiar -- for example, preferences not being saved. The solution involves using Terminal to type in a command that sets permissions for your home folder so that you have read and write access, but so that everyone else has only read access. Since I'm newly using Lion, and not having this permissions problem, I'm not able to try this out. > > Here are the instructions. (I'm pasting in the version "for less experienced users"): > > For less experienced terminal users, these are more explicit instructions to follow cgDesign's method from page 1: > > Step 0: > Be sure to complete ALL steps > > Step 1: > Open the application Terminal.app (Utilities folder inside of your applications folder) > > Step 2: > when the prompt comes up, on the line that ends in "$", paste in (exactly) > > chmod -R -N ~ > > and hit the enter key on your keyboard, and wait a couple of minutes for this to complete. You may see several messages regarding invalid arguments - these are OK. > > Step 3: > When the prompt ending in "$" returns, paste in (exactly) > > chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public > > When the prompt ending in "$" returns, you have completed all steps. You can quit Terminal.app. > > > There is some debate about whether using the first command is necessary. The second command with the "everyone deny delete" argument is what fixes the permissions issue. Both use the "chmod" command -- spelled "c h m o d" -- which changes the file mode access bits (permissions), and/or modifies access control lists associated with these files. Unix is case sensitive, and inserting spaces between keys to commands -- like the hyphen and capital letter R, or the hyphen and capital letter N in the first command -- alters the meaning of the command. Instead of applying the command recursively to subfolders, which is what the "-R" key indicates, typing the "R" with a space before it would turn it into an argument -- a (non-existent) folder with the name "R" in the present directory. The tilde symbol is preceded by a space, because this is the argument to the command, and is the shorthand way of indicating the current user's home directory. > > All Terminal commands are entered by pressing the "return" key after you've typed the line. > > So, Sarah, open a Terminal session in Finder: > 1. Command-Shift-U to go to "Utilities", press "t" to go to Terminal, and Command-Down arrow to launch Terminal > 2. In the Terminal window, type or paste in: > chmod -R -N ~ > then press return. (That's the chmod command, followed by a space, followed by hyphen capital R, followed by a space, followed by hyphen capital N, followed by a space, followed by the tilde symbol.) > 3. Wait a few minutes for this to complete, and ignore error messages. > 4. Type or paste in: > chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public > > then press return. (That's the chmod command, followed by a space, filed by a plus sign and small letter a, followed by the three words in quotes, "everyone deny delete", followed by a space, followed by a list of folders in your home directory, all separated by spaces. These arguments all begin with a tilde symbol followed by a slash, which indicates your top level home directory. So in addition to tilde slash by itself as the first argument, you'll be typing tilde slash before all the default folders that should appear in your home directory: Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Library, Movies, Music, Pictures, and Public. The names of all these folders begin with a capital letter. The command is a single line. > > 5.Wait a while for the last command to be executed, then quite your Terminal app with Command-q. > > Sarah, this should fix your not being able to write to the Documents folder on your home directory. For some reason, your permissions access was being superseded, so that either the system or some other application could change the permissions to those folders, locking you out. Either the system access control lists or default permissions were not set correctly, so repairing permissions didn't fix this. This would also explain why preferences weren't being saved, since you wouldn't be able to write to the files in your account's Library folder. > > Probably one person should try this out to see whether this works. I'll give the URL of the Apple Support Forum thread that discusses this. It's titled "Lion Permissions Problem": > https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3202084?start=0&tstart=0 > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 25, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually I want to know the same thing. I was afraid to ask so thanks for doing this. I have this every time I move or copy a folder. >> >> thanks all for any ideas. >> On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> I must have done something somewhere because every time I copy a file, I need to authenticate myself. >>> >>> How do I overcome this issue gang? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 27 00:24:00 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:24:00 -1000 Subject: Authenticacion question. In-Reply-To: <946B4B19-B241-4F1E-9A72-4B046019A09B@gmail.com> References: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> <86AC77B1-2F24-4266-ACAF-78C78D711419@mac.com> <946B4B19-B241-4F1E-9A72-4B046019A09B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <948EB3AD-F3E3-4EE9-980F-549630D8E887@mac.com> Hi Sarah, The first Terminal command to clear ACLs typically did give error messages. In all cases it was OK to ignore them. It attempts to recursively remove previous access control lists. The second Terminal command with the: chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public (everything in one line) is supposed to do the heavy lifting correction. This basically sets up an access control list that denies delete access to everyone but you for files in your user account. Did you manage to run the second command in your Terminal session? There were a few posters who thought that just running the second command by itself would work to fix things. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 26, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Ok. goign back to this thread and sorry for bouncing I'm getting these messages. what's up. I don't like the sound of them. Here is an export. > > Failed to clear ACL on file 7-Zip File Manager ? win7.app: Operation not permitted > chmod: Failed to clear ACL on file _26C5A5C16DC67BAA01E199 ? win7.app: Operation not permitted > chmod: Failed to clear ACL on file _2D1F402522862B82F63CF9 ? win7.app: Operation not permitted > chmod: Failed to clear ACL on file Accessibility On-Screen Keyboard ? win7.app: Operation not permitted > > > Looks like the problem is bigger then I anticipated. > > Take care all. > > On Feb 25, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Sarah and Jim, >> >> I found a discussion in the Apple Support forums that talks about this permissions problem under Lion, and steps that people have taken to solve it. The described symptoms sound familiar -- for example, preferences not being saved. The solution involves using Terminal to type in a command that sets permissions for your home folder so that you have read and write access, but so that everyone else has only read access. Since I'm newly using Lion, and not having this permissions problem, I'm not able to try this out. >> >> Here are the instructions. (I'm pasting in the version "for less experienced users"): >> >> For less experienced terminal users, these are more explicit instructions to follow cgDesign's method from page 1: >> >> Step 0: >> Be sure to complete ALL steps >> >> Step 1: >> Open the application Terminal.app (Utilities folder inside of your applications folder) >> >> Step 2: >> when the prompt comes up, on the line that ends in "$", paste in (exactly) >> >> chmod -R -N ~ >> >> and hit the enter key on your keyboard, and wait a couple of minutes for this to complete. You may see several messages regarding invalid arguments - these are OK. >> >> Step 3: >> When the prompt ending in "$" returns, paste in (exactly) >> >> chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public >> >> When the prompt ending in "$" returns, you have completed all steps. You can quit Terminal.app. >> >> >> There is some debate about whether using the first command is necessary. The second command with the "everyone deny delete" argument is what fixes the permissions issue. Both use the "chmod" command -- spelled "c h m o d" -- which changes the file mode access bits (permissions), and/or modifies access control lists associated with these files. Unix is case sensitive, and inserting spaces between keys to commands -- like the hyphen and capital letter R, or the hyphen and capital letter N in the first command -- alters the meaning of the command. Instead of applying the command recursively to subfolders, which is what the "-R" key indicates, typing the "R" with a space before it would turn it into an argument -- a (non-existent) folder with the name "R" in the present directory. The tilde symbol is preceded by a space, because this is the argument to the command, and is the shorthand way of indicating the current user's home directory. >> >> All Terminal commands are entered by pressing the "return" key after you've typed the line. >> >> So, Sarah, open a Terminal session in Finder: >> 1. Command-Shift-U to go to "Utilities", press "t" to go to Terminal, and Command-Down arrow to launch Terminal >> 2. In the Terminal window, type or paste in: >> chmod -R -N ~ >> then press return. (That's the chmod command, followed by a space, followed by hyphen capital R, followed by a space, followed by hyphen capital N, followed by a space, followed by the tilde symbol.) >> 3. Wait a few minutes for this to complete, and ignore error messages. >> 4. Type or paste in: >> chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public >> >> then press return. (That's the chmod command, followed by a space, filed by a plus sign and small letter a, followed by the three words in quotes, "everyone deny delete", followed by a space, followed by a list of folders in your home directory, all separated by spaces. These arguments all begin with a tilde symbol followed by a slash, which indicates your top level home directory. So in addition to tilde slash by itself as the first argument, you'll be typing tilde slash before all the default folders that should appear in your home directory: Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Library, Movies, Music, Pictures, and Public. The names of all these folders begin with a capital letter. The command is a single line. >> >> 5.Wait a while for the last command to be executed, then quite your Terminal app with Command-q. >> >> Sarah, this should fix your not being able to write to the Documents folder on your home directory. For some reason, your permissions access was being superseded, so that either the system or some other application could change the permissions to those folders, locking you out. Either the system access control lists or default permissions were not set correctly, so repairing permissions didn't fix this. This would also explain why preferences weren't being saved, since you wouldn't be able to write to the files in your account's Library folder. >> >> Probably one person should try this out to see whether this works. I'll give the URL of the Apple Support Forum thread that discusses this. It's titled "Lion Permissions Problem": >> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3202084?start=0&tstart=0 >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 25, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually I want to know the same thing. I was afraid to ask so thanks for doing this. I have this every time I move or copy a folder. >>> >>> thanks all for any ideas. >>> On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks: >>>> >>>> I must have done something somewhere because every time I copy a file, I need to authenticate myself. >>>> >>>> How do I overcome this issue gang? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>> >> From d.trethowan at me.com Mon Feb 27 01:56:23 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:56:23 +1100 Subject: Using other media players other than iTunes Message-ID: <36A296AA-8E17-423F-B7E6-178C62243FAE@me.com> Hi! Do you have a preferred media player other than iTunes? Got a huge iTunes music library etc you wish you could play on another media player? Perhaps the following tip may be helpful. If you have playlists created under iTunes you can "Export" tem to .m3u or .pls playlists which are compatible with VLC Media Player amongst others. If you're using iTunes for the Mac then the option you'll want is under the Library menu which is found under the File menu, look for "Export Playlist". You first need to select the playlist you wish to export before selecting this option, when the "Export Playlist" option is selected the standard "File Browser" will pop up allowing you to select the location of the export, name of exported playlist, format of playlist and so on. From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 27 02:14:43 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:14:43 -1000 Subject: Using Mac as bluetooth keyboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jane, If you want a configuration that will work most closely like a paired Apple Wireless Keyboard for the iPhone, then iKeyboard ($9.99 from the Mac App Store) is the one that will let you type on your computer keyboard the same way. You have to turn VoiceOver off for your computer with Command-F5 after pairing your device through Bluetooth. At that point, the keystrokes you press on the keyboard act on the iOS device, which in your case would be the iPad. Using QuickNav navigation or VO-Right arrow or Left arrow moves you through your controls, and using VO-Space or simultaneously pressing the Up and Down arrow keys will press buttons and activate links, etc. The one addition I would make to last December's discussion is a recommendation for Lion users that you disable all the shortcuts associated with the Mission Control shortcuts category in the Keyboard Shortcuts tab of System Preferences > Keyboard so that all normal keyboard shortcuts for iOS devices are available to you. Otherwise, it can be puzzling when a some sequences don't work, and end up having launched Mission Control options on your Mac, when you return to it. More details about that below. The Type2Phone app ($4.99) gives me some different functionality. I don't turn VoiceOver off to use it, but I can Command-tab to another application on my Mac, copy text to my clipboard, then paste the text I copied from that app on my Mac into a mail message, or text field of a note app on my iOS device with Command-V. With iKeyboard, the clipboards of the Mac and iOS device remain separate, at least as of the current version. I tried keyboard navigation with Type2Phone, and could do it with VoiceOver turned off, but it was less robust. (Type2Phone got started later than iKeyboard; the evidence is that iKeyboard went through similar issues before maturing. Also more language keyboards are currently supported by iKeyboard, though again that appears to reflect the earlier start, as Type2Phone has been adding more keyboards in recent versions.) There are a few other comments, and maybe Ed, Justin, or others who have iKeyboard can weigh in. At the time I reviewed these apps I was running Snow Leopard. Mission Control in Lion has some shortcut keys that conflict with the key navigation shortcuts you'd use with your iOS device. I ended up going into System Preferences > Keyboard then going to the "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab and selecting the "Mission Control" in table of "Shortcut Categories". Then I unchecked all the boxes in the second table of "Keyboard Shortcuts". If I use the default setup for Lion without disabling these shortcuts, Control-Up Arrow launches Mission Control or takes me out of it, and Control-Down Arrow shows the Desktop. Pressing F10 brings up a screen of application windows. I have to ask whether any VoiceOver users in Lion use these features. It's possible to navigate through the Mission Control Expos?d windows -- unlike Expos? under Leopard and Snow Leopard -- and it's also possible to navigate through all the application windows, but still not really useful to a VO user, I think, compared to using Command-tab. So what happens is that if I don't disable these shortcuts, when I want to quickly navigate to the dock by using Control-Down Arrow or to the first element on the screen with Control-Up Arrow, nothing at all happens, and because VoiceOver on my Mac is toggled off, I can't find out what happens until I press Command-F5, since the "whoosh" sounds that indicate I've been moved to Mission Control of my Desktop don't get played. That's also true for pressing F10 to mute a playing track -- if the shortcut assignment to bring up Application Windows is not unchecked, nothing happens, and on my Mac there are now these Application windows launched. Similarly, if I have started music playing on my iPhone or iPad, pressing F12 only increases my volume if the key assignment to Dashboard is unchecked. So I just uncheck all these boxes in the table of shortcuts for "Mission Control" under my System Preferences > Keyboard window in the Keyboard Shortcuts tab. If you use Command-F5 to turn on VoiceOver on your Mac, you lose the ability to navigate or type on your iOS device. You also won't be able to enter text with the virtual keyboard, as long as the Bluetooth connection with your Mac through an active iKeyboard app is maintained, unless you first press the F5 key to toggle on/off the virtual keyboard. There are a bunch of pre-defined F-key functions that resemble what's available with the iPad Keyboard Dock. You can check these out by putting your "paired" iKeyboard into VoiceOver's keyboard help mode with VO-K. (I mean Control-Option-K, here, in the usual shorthand). I'll paste in the list from the App description, and just note that if you have checked the box on the "Keyboards" tab on the "Keyboard" Menu of System Preferences for "Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as standard function keys", all the F-keys work directly without "FN" prefixes. If you've disabled the Mission Control keyboard shortcut definitions, then all your media function keys will work, too. F2 only affects you if you have multiple input language keyboards. Then, pressing F2 switches you to the next input keyboard, just like pressing Command-space does. Finally, I'll note that just as on the iPad Keyboard Dock, the escape key acts like a "Home" button. That means you can double click it to get to the App Switcher or triple click it to turn VoiceOver on and off. Pretty neat, since that isn't a function of the Apple Wireless Keyboard. Pasted in shortcut list of F-keys follows (without editing to remove the "FN" prefixes). ESC: Home button FN+F1 : Search button FN+F2 : Input method selection FN+F3 : Apple Logo FN+F4 : iPad slide show FN+F5 : Show/hide virtual keyboard FN+F6 : Lock button FN+F7 : Previous song FN+F8 : Play/Stop FN+F9 : Next song FN+F10: Mute FN+F11: Volume down FN+F12: Volume up Finally, I'll just mention that if you switch VoiceOver on again with Command-F5, you're placed in iKeyboard's interface, which is an extended keyboard. If you navigate with your arrow keys you'll find this is a full keyboard layout, with the "Fn" key in a six-pack of controls, and with a separate numeric keypad. The functions of the F-keys in the top row aren't announced. In fact, the set that are normally associated with a laptop keyboard are all announced as "unchecked checkbox", and unless you have hints turned on, you won't hear them as F1, F2, etc. HTH. I've spent more time playing around with Lion than trying these functions out. Cheers, Esther On Feb 26, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Jane wrote: > I read back in December about a couple of apps, iKeyboard and Type2Phone that let you type to your iPad or iPod or iPhone using the Mac's keyboard through bluetooth. > > I can't seem to figure out which would be best, and I don't want to spend money if neither will do what I want. > > I want to be able to type using the keyboard. I also want to be able to double-tap on buttons and do other bluetooth keyboard shortcuts. Will either of these work? > > Jane From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 27 02:37:46 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:37:46 -1000 Subject: ncftpd [was Re: CrushFtp Server.] In-Reply-To: References: <50A50D67-7C71-4896-AD9B-8212CC65B588@softcon.com> <8AAF1F192F5F41158EA03F31B0D22160@MainComputer> <980F1A55-891E-435E-BFD4-DF0882141980@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Jim, I suspect this app might work from Terminal, but Travis could answer you authoritatively. I've never tried to run an FTP server. One thing I noticed is that the last pre-compiled build is for Snow Leopard. Cheers, Esther On Feb 26, 2012, at 5:59 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Esther: > > Is there a front end on that server? I'm not very good with terminal. > > Thanks. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:56 AM > Subject: ncftpd [was Re: CrushFtp Server.] > > >> Hi, >> >> I took a look at the ncftpd pages, and the product looks very good. For other list readers, I'll summarize that a personal use license that supports up to 3 (simultaneous) users is free, as Travis stated. Also, if you are running this server for an educational domain, there is a free, unlimited-user educational license. >> >> Current licensing for commercial use is now $199 per server for an unlimited number of concurrent users. However, if there are 50 or fewer concurrent users, the license is $129. >> >> Jim, did you solve your authentication issues? That might be a factor in not being able to run the ./configure for setting up CrushFtp Server. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 02:57:46 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 20:57:46 -0600 Subject: Using other media players other than iTunes In-Reply-To: <36A296AA-8E17-423F-B7E6-178C62243FAE@me.com> References: <36A296AA-8E17-423F-B7E6-178C62243FAE@me.com> Message-ID: <0D59234B-9C9F-449C-BACC-5E434FB121BD@gmail.com> This is cool, because I like vlc player. Like the sound quality of it better for some reason. This one is a definite keeper *lol*. On Feb 26, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Do you have a preferred media player other than iTunes? Got a huge iTunes music library etc you wish you could play on another media player? Perhaps the following tip may be helpful. > > If you have playlists created under iTunes you can "Export" tem to .m3u or .pls playlists which are compatible with VLC Media Player amongst others. > > If you're using iTunes for the Mac then the option you'll want is under the Library menu which is found under the File menu, look for "Export Playlist". > > You first need to select the playlist you wish to export before selecting this option, when the "Export Playlist" option is selected the standard "File Browser" will pop up allowing you to select the location of the export, name of exported playlist, format of playlist and so on. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.trethowan at me.com Mon Feb 27 02:59:15 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:59:15 +1100 Subject: Using other media players other than iTunes In-Reply-To: <0D59234B-9C9F-449C-BACC-5E434FB121BD@gmail.com> References: <36A296AA-8E17-423F-B7E6-178C62243FAE@me.com> <0D59234B-9C9F-449C-BACC-5E434FB121BD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5AADE4B9-74F7-475E-A2EB-025F3DDF51C5@me.com> Yep that figures, VLC uses its own decoders. On 27/02/2012, at 1:57 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote: > This is cool, because I like vlc player. Like the sound quality of it better for some reason. This one is a definite keeper *lol*. > On Feb 26, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Do you have a preferred media player other than iTunes? Got a huge iTunes music library etc you wish you could play on another media player? Perhaps the following tip may be helpful. >> >> If you have playlists created under iTunes you can "Export" tem to .m3u or .pls playlists which are compatible with VLC Media Player amongst others. >> >> If you're using iTunes for the Mac then the option you'll want is under the Library menu which is found under the File menu, look for "Export Playlist". >> >> You first need to select the playlist you wish to export before selecting this option, when the "Export Playlist" option is selected the standard "File Browser" will pop up allowing you to select the location of the export, name of exported playlist, format of playlist and so on. >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Mon Feb 27 03:09:00 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:09:00 -0800 Subject: question about full screen Message-ID: <68962C89-C722-4421-A8D0-C05EBA66D321@telus.net> Hi there. Does full screen mean the same as maximizing a screen? Thanks. Lovette From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 03:17:30 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:17:30 -0800 Subject: Authenticacion question. In-Reply-To: <948EB3AD-F3E3-4EE9-980F-549630D8E887@mac.com> References: <2C01E507998647D085694AE8CE945D94@MainComputer> <095BF086-2E94-49F2-8A20-D9F1BE51045D@gmail.com> <86AC77B1-2F24-4266-ACAF-78C78D711419@mac.com> <946B4B19-B241-4F1E-9A72-4B046019A09B@gmail.com> <948EB3AD-F3E3-4EE9-980F-549630D8E887@mac.com> Message-ID: <0143DCAC-9169-460D-924B-9903C0145FEC@gmail.com> I ran both and all is hopefully now all well. I recycled yoru message in to my folder where I keep these things in case I or anyone else needs them. Take care. and I managed to safe the file. Now I can get back to my single when I have the time.? HOpe that goes well. I cannot keep you allposted on that but I'll keep you all posted if I run in to any more problems. Take care. On Feb 26, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > The first Terminal command to clear ACLs typically did give error messages. In all cases it was OK to ignore them. It attempts to recursively remove previous access control lists. > > The second Terminal command with the: > chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public > > (everything in one line) is supposed to do the heavy lifting correction. This basically sets up an access control list that denies delete access to everyone but you for files in your user account. > > Did you manage to run the second command in your Terminal session? There were a few posters who thought that just running the second command by itself would work to fix things. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ok. goign back to this thread and sorry for bouncing I'm getting these messages. what's up. I don't like the sound of them. Here is an export. >> >> Failed to clear ACL on file 7-Zip File Manager ? win7.app: Operation not permitted >> chmod: Failed to clear ACL on file _26C5A5C16DC67BAA01E199 ? win7.app: Operation not permitted >> chmod: Failed to clear ACL on file _2D1F402522862B82F63CF9 ? win7.app: Operation not permitted >> chmod: Failed to clear ACL on file Accessibility On-Screen Keyboard ? win7.app: Operation not permitted >> >> >> Looks like the problem is bigger then I anticipated. >> >> Take care all. >> >> On Feb 25, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Sarah and Jim, >>> >>> I found a discussion in the Apple Support forums that talks about this permissions problem under Lion, and steps that people have taken to solve it. The described symptoms sound familiar -- for example, preferences not being saved. The solution involves using Terminal to type in a command that sets permissions for your home folder so that you have read and write access, but so that everyone else has only read access. Since I'm newly using Lion, and not having this permissions problem, I'm not able to try this out. >>> >>> Here are the instructions. (I'm pasting in the version "for less experienced users"): >>> >>> For less experienced terminal users, these are more explicit instructions to follow cgDesign's method from page 1: >>> >>> Step 0: >>> Be sure to complete ALL steps >>> >>> Step 1: >>> Open the application Terminal.app (Utilities folder inside of your applications folder) >>> >>> Step 2: >>> when the prompt comes up, on the line that ends in "$", paste in (exactly) >>> >>> chmod -R -N ~ >>> >>> and hit the enter key on your keyboard, and wait a couple of minutes for this to complete. You may see several messages regarding invalid arguments - these are OK. >>> >>> Step 3: >>> When the prompt ending in "$" returns, paste in (exactly) >>> >>> chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public >>> >>> When the prompt ending in "$" returns, you have completed all steps. You can quit Terminal.app. >>> >>> >>> There is some debate about whether using the first command is necessary. The second command with the "everyone deny delete" argument is what fixes the permissions issue. Both use the "chmod" command -- spelled "c h m o d" -- which changes the file mode access bits (permissions), and/or modifies access control lists associated with these files. Unix is case sensitive, and inserting spaces between keys to commands -- like the hyphen and capital letter R, or the hyphen and capital letter N in the first command -- alters the meaning of the command. Instead of applying the command recursively to subfolders, which is what the "-R" key indicates, typing the "R" with a space before it would turn it into an argument -- a (non-existent) folder with the name "R" in the present directory. The tilde symbol is preceded by a space, because this is the argument to the command, and is the shorthand way of indicating the current user's home directory. >>> >>> All Terminal commands are entered by pressing the "return" key after you've typed the line. >>> >>> So, Sarah, open a Terminal session in Finder: >>> 1. Command-Shift-U to go to "Utilities", press "t" to go to Terminal, and Command-Down arrow to launch Terminal >>> 2. In the Terminal window, type or paste in: >>> chmod -R -N ~ >>> then press return. (That's the chmod command, followed by a space, followed by hyphen capital R, followed by a space, followed by hyphen capital N, followed by a space, followed by the tilde symbol.) >>> 3. Wait a few minutes for this to complete, and ignore error messages. >>> 4. Type or paste in: >>> chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/ ~/Desktop ~/Documents ~/Downloads ~/Library ~/Movies ~/Music ~/Pictures ~/Public >>> >>> then press return. (That's the chmod command, followed by a space, filed by a plus sign and small letter a, followed by the three words in quotes, "everyone deny delete", followed by a space, followed by a list of folders in your home directory, all separated by spaces. These arguments all begin with a tilde symbol followed by a slash, which indicates your top level home directory. So in addition to tilde slash by itself as the first argument, you'll be typing tilde slash before all the default folders that should appear in your home directory: Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Library, Movies, Music, Pictures, and Public. The names of all these folders begin with a capital letter. The command is a single line. >>> >>> 5.Wait a while for the last command to be executed, then quite your Terminal app with Command-q. >>> >>> Sarah, this should fix your not being able to write to the Documents folder on your home directory. For some reason, your permissions access was being superseded, so that either the system or some other application could change the permissions to those folders, locking you out. Either the system access control lists or default permissions were not set correctly, so repairing permissions didn't fix this. This would also explain why preferences weren't being saved, since you wouldn't be able to write to the files in your account's Library folder. >>> >>> Probably one person should try this out to see whether this works. I'll give the URL of the Apple Support Forum thread that discusses this. It's titled "Lion Permissions Problem": >>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3202084?start=0&tstart=0 >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Feb 25, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Actually I want to know the same thing. I was afraid to ask so thanks for doing this. I have this every time I move or copy a folder. >>>> >>>> thanks all for any ideas. >>>> On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Folks: >>>>> >>>>> I must have done something somewhere because every time I copy a file, I need to authenticate myself. >>>>> >>>>> How do I overcome this issue gang? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>>> >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Mon Feb 27 05:55:27 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:55:27 -0800 Subject: itunes and podcasts Message-ID: Hi there. I do hope my emails are getting through. I am wondering how to play a podcast that is downloaded? It shows in my list and when I hit play I get a page of written material not the podcast. Hope someone can help. Lovette From mabuhay94 at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 08:10:46 2012 From: mabuhay94 at gmail.com (Daniela Rubio) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:10:46 +0100 Subject: Using Mac as bluetooth keyboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello: Thank you so much for the tip on Type2Phone. I just got it and it is great! The only thing is that I can't use Voiceover commands on my iPhone, it doesn't seems to recognize them. When I type text with my mac, it appears on my iPhone, but if I do vo wright arrow, vo Left arrow or vo space, it won't to anything, even with voiceover turned off on my Mac. Any ideas? Thank you so much! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 27/02/2012, a las 03:14, Esther escribi?: > Hi Jane, > > If you want a configuration that will work most closely like a paired Apple Wireless Keyboard for the iPhone, then iKeyboard ($9.99 from the Mac App Store) is the one that will let you type on your computer keyboard the same way. You have to turn VoiceOver off for your computer with Command-F5 after pairing your device through Bluetooth. At that point, the keystrokes you press on the keyboard act on the iOS device, which in your case would be the iPad. Using QuickNav navigation or VO-Right arrow or Left arrow moves you through your controls, and using VO-Space or simultaneously pressing the Up and Down arrow keys will press buttons and activate links, etc. The one addition I would make to last December's discussion is a recommendation for Lion users that you disable all the shortcuts associated with the Mission Control shortcuts category in the Keyboard Shortcuts tab of System Preferences > Keyboard so that all normal keyboard shortcuts for iOS devices are available to you. Otherwise, it can be puzzling when a some sequences don't work, and end up having launched Mission Control options on your Mac, when you return to it. More details about that below. > > The Type2Phone app ($4.99) gives me some different functionality. I don't turn VoiceOver off to use it, but I can Command-tab to another application on my Mac, copy text to my clipboard, then paste the text I copied from that app on my Mac into a mail message, or text field of a note app on my iOS device with Command-V. With iKeyboard, the clipboards of the Mac and iOS device remain separate, at least as of the current version. I tried keyboard navigation with Type2Phone, and could do it with VoiceOver turned off, but it was less robust. (Type2Phone got started later than iKeyboard; the evidence is that iKeyboard went through similar issues before maturing. Also more language keyboards are currently supported by iKeyboard, though again that appears to reflect the earlier start, as Type2Phone has been adding more keyboards in recent versions.) > > There are a few other comments, and maybe Ed, Justin, or others who have iKeyboard can weigh in. At the time I reviewed these apps I was running Snow Leopard. Mission Control in Lion has some shortcut keys that conflict with the key navigation shortcuts you'd use with your iOS device. I ended up going into System Preferences > Keyboard then going to the "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab and selecting the "Mission Control" in table of "Shortcut Categories". Then I unchecked all the boxes in the second table of "Keyboard Shortcuts". > > If I use the default setup for Lion without disabling these shortcuts, Control-Up Arrow launches Mission Control or takes me out of it, and Control-Down Arrow shows the Desktop. Pressing F10 brings up a screen of application windows. I have to ask whether any VoiceOver users in Lion use these features. It's possible to navigate through the Mission Control Expos?d windows -- unlike Expos? under Leopard and Snow Leopard -- and it's also possible to navigate through all the application windows, but still not really useful to a VO user, I think, compared to using Command-tab. > > So what happens is that if I don't disable these shortcuts, when I want to quickly navigate to the dock by using Control-Down Arrow or to the first element on the screen with Control-Up Arrow, nothing at all happens, and because VoiceOver on my Mac is toggled off, I can't find out what happens until I press Command-F5, since the "whoosh" sounds that indicate I've been moved to Mission Control of my Desktop don't get played. That's also true for pressing F10 to mute a playing track -- if the shortcut assignment to bring up Application Windows is not unchecked, nothing happens, and on my Mac there are now these Application windows launched. Similarly, if I have started music playing on my iPhone or iPad, pressing F12 only increases my volume if the key assignment to Dashboard is unchecked. So I just uncheck all these boxes in the table of shortcuts for "Mission Control" under my System Preferences > Keyboard window in the Keyboard Shortcuts tab. > > If you use Command-F5 to turn on VoiceOver on your Mac, you lose the ability to navigate or type on your iOS device. You also won't be able to enter text with the virtual keyboard, as long as the Bluetooth connection with your Mac through an active iKeyboard app is maintained, unless you first press the F5 key to toggle on/off the virtual keyboard. > > There are a bunch of pre-defined F-key functions that resemble what's available with the iPad Keyboard Dock. You can check these out by putting your "paired" iKeyboard into VoiceOver's keyboard help mode with VO-K. (I mean Control-Option-K, here, in the usual shorthand). I'll paste in the list from the App description, and just note that if you have checked the box on the "Keyboards" tab on the "Keyboard" Menu of System Preferences for "Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as standard function keys", all the F-keys work directly without "FN" prefixes. If you've disabled the Mission Control keyboard shortcut definitions, then all your media function keys will work, too. F2 only affects you if you have multiple input language keyboards. Then, pressing F2 switches you to the next input keyboard, just like pressing Command-space does. Finally, I'll note that just as on the iPad Keyboard Dock, the escape key acts like a "Home" button. That means you can double click it to get to the App Switcher or triple click it to turn VoiceOver on and off. Pretty neat, since that isn't a function of the Apple Wireless Keyboard. Pasted in shortcut list of F-keys follows (without editing to remove the "FN" prefixes). > > ESC: Home button > FN+F1 : Search button > FN+F2 : Input method selection > FN+F3 : Apple Logo > FN+F4 : iPad slide show > FN+F5 : Show/hide virtual keyboard > FN+F6 : Lock button > FN+F7 : Previous song > FN+F8 : Play/Stop > FN+F9 : Next song > FN+F10: Mute > FN+F11: Volume down > FN+F12: Volume up > > Finally, I'll just mention that if you switch VoiceOver on again with Command-F5, you're placed in iKeyboard's interface, which is an extended keyboard. If you navigate with your arrow keys you'll find this is a full keyboard layout, with the "Fn" key in a six-pack of controls, and with a separate numeric keypad. The functions of the F-keys in the top row aren't announced. In fact, the set that are normally associated with a laptop keyboard are all announced as "unchecked checkbox", and unless you have hints turned on, you won't hear them as F1, F2, etc. > > HTH. I've spent more time playing around with Lion than trying these functions out. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Jane wrote: > >> I read back in December about a couple of apps, iKeyboard and Type2Phone that let you type to your iPad or iPod or iPhone using the Mac's keyboard through bluetooth. >> >> I can't seem to figure out which would be best, and I don't want to spend money if neither will do what I want. >> >> I want to be able to type using the keyboard. I also want to be able to double-tap on buttons and do other bluetooth keyboard shortcuts. Will either of these work? >> >> Jane > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From nc5rnc5r at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 12:10:42 2012 From: nc5rnc5r at gmail.com (Robert Carter) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 06:10:42 -0600 Subject: Speeding up podcasts on the Mac [was Re: Speeding up podcasts on iphone] In-Reply-To: References: <6CF53A2EDF8B4E6FB28137B677A2570A@DD952WB1> <154967EB-EEE9-4C79-8058-66E4D89F1A62@Mac-Access.net> <6C42245C-0966-4BE7-9B32-48ED231F0BCF@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <83A22B6B-B511-403D-9B40-D632555E9215@gmail.com> While I have used quicktime to speed up podcasts, I prefer the sound of the VLC media player which to me sounds better when sped up. Robert Carter On Feb 26, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Dear Listers, > > Success! It is truly a time saver to have the ability to speed up podcasts. Thanks to Esther and the support she provides this is a current option. Hopefully it will eventually be a standard part of iTunes. > I had some trouble initially completing this task because the process is very detailed. I often thought I had followed the directions exactly only to find I had missed something. > > I also was not familiar with the Script Editor. At the end I had everything working correctly but didn't even know it. When I entered the Scripts Menu now showing on the Status menu I didn't arrow down far enough to see the new scripts waiting there for me. > > And, thanks to Esther and this new experience I'll be listening to suggestions for other helpful scripts. > > Eric Caron > On 2012, at 9:29 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> Wow! Esther and others, >> >> I am going to make every effort to follow these amazing directions. This is going to push my Mac skills to the limit. I'm looking forward to adding this capability to iTunes. >> >> >> I'm very grateful, and slightly intimidated by this undertaking. I'm glad the list support is out there! >> >> ERic Caron >> >> >> On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Eric, >>> >>> You wrote: >>> >>>> So am I right that this is not a option on the Mac in iTunes? >>>> Thanks again! I'm off to power through some podcast listening. >>> >>> >>> iTunes can't change the speed of playback, but VLC and QuickTime Player can. The version of QuickTime Player that was used by default before Snow Leopard, and which is now called QuickTime Player 7, has an A/V (audio/visual) control window. You show or hide it with the shortcut Command-K, and there are sliders that let you adjust playback speed, along with volume, balance, treble, bass, pitch, along with video brightness, color, and tint. This is AppleScriptable, so what I do is use a pair of AppleScripts to switch between playing a track in iTunes and Quick Time Player 7. >>> >>> The first AppleScript pauses iTunes, notes the time into the track where playing was paused, then starts QuickTime Player 7 playing at that time at a faster rate of my choosing. Here it is coded for 2 times speed, pasted in below: >>> >>> (* >>> Play selected track in QuickTime at 2x speed >>> Source: Mac OS X hints Jan 6, 2006 Play this podcast at 1.5x >>> http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060103000452805 >>> *) >>> tell application "iTunes" >>> try >>> pause >>> set my_track to location of current track >>> set my_seconds to player position >>> on error >>> set my_track to location of item 1 of selection >>> set my_seconds to 0 >>> end try >>> end tell >>> >>> tell application "QuickTime Player 7" >>> open my_track >>> set my_movie to first document >>> set sound volume of my_movie to 256 --set volume to 100% >>> set ts to time scale of my_movie >>> set current time of my_movie to my_seconds * ts >>> set rate of my_movie to 2.0 -- starts playing >>> activate >>> end tell >>> >>> The second AppleScript handles passing control back to iTunes, and notes the current playing position from QuickTime Player 7, so that when you go back to the track in iTunes its bookmarked position will resume from where you left off in QuickTime Player 7. If you play to the end of a podcast in QuickTime Player 7, the time will be set to the beginning of the podcast when you switch back to iTunes, just as though you had played through the podcast in iTunes. One warning is that you have to keep the track that is playing in iTunes as the current track, in order to correctly pass back the time with the second AppleScript. I don't imagine people will try navigating to different podcasts, radio streams, etc. in iTunes while listening to the speeded up podcast or audiobook in QuickTime Player 7, but in principle, they could. Here's the pasted in version of the AppleScript to return control to iTunes at normal playback speed: >>> >>> tell application "iTunes" >>> set my_track to location of current track >>> end tell >>> >>> tell application "QuickTime Player 7" >>> set my_movie to first document >>> set ts to time scale of my_movie >>> set my_seconds to (current time of my_movie) / ts >>> close my_movie >>> end tell >>> >>> tell application "iTunes" >>> set player position to my_seconds >>> play >>> end tell >>> >>> The same AppleScripts can be used in Leopard and Tiger, with the name of the application in the script set to "QuickTime Player" instead of "QuickTime Player 7". If you have Lion, you'll have to download QuickTime Player 7 to use these AppleScripts. Snow Leopard users will find it on their install DVDs. Here's the Knowledge Base Article on "Installing QuickTime Player 7 on Mac OS X v.10.6 or Later" that describes the process and has a download link for Lion: >>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3678 >>> >>> To set up your speed-up solution in Lion: >>> 1. Get QuickTime Player 7 and install it from: >>> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL923 >>> 2. Open AppleScript editor from your Utilities folder (in Finder Command-Shift-U, then type "a p" and Command-Down arrow to launch the AppleScript editor). >>> 3. Set your AppleScripts to display in the status menu bar in preferences by pressing Command-Comma, then navigating to "Show Script menu in menu bar" and checking this option (VO-Space). You can check this works by using VO-M-M or Control-F8 to navigate to the status menu bar. VoiceOver should say, "AppleScript", and if you arrow down the menu you'll find "Open Scripts Folder" and "Open AppleScript Editor", followed by category folders of AppleScripts in the "/Library/Scripts" folder on your Mac. This is the "Computer Scripts Folder" that is one of the submenu options to open under "Open Scripts Folder", and is also where the VoiceOver scripts for "Time of Day" are stored (under the VoiceOver category folder at the bottom of the list). Press escape to leave navigating the menu options and return to your AppleScript preferences and continue navigating through the options of the General tab. By default, the "Show Computer scripts" box is checked, which is what gives you > >> ac >>> cess to the list of folders from the status menu bar. You may optionally select the radio button to show application scripts at "top". This can slightly speed up navigation to scripts you add to the menu, by placing them before the category folders. Command-W to close the preferences window. >>> >>> 4. Copy and paste in the scripts into the AppleScript editor window. I use comment lines that start with a left parenthesis followed by a star, and that end with a star followed by a right parenthesis, to remind me that the current speed is set to 2x and give source of this AppleScript's MacOSX hints article, but you can skip over these in the first script and use VO-down arrow in mail to navigate to the "tell application "iTunes"" line, then make sure you're at start of the line with Command-left arrow. Hold down the Shift key for selection, then start arrowing down until you get to the end of the script. You can keep arrowing down until you reach my text description, just to be sure you've gotten everything, and then up arrow again so that the last highlighted line is the "end tell" command. As long as you continue to hold down the Shift key while pressing Up or Down arrow, you can continue to move forwards and backwards to refine your selection. When you've select > e >> d >>> the whole script, release the Shift key and press Command-C to copy. Then Command-Tab to switch back to the AppleScript editor, and paste the script in with Command-V. If you want to break this up into steps, you can always copy and paste your AppleScript selection in to a TextEdit file to review, then undertake using the AppleScript Editor at a later time. (I frequently just save parts of tasks I want to work on in TextEdit files.) >>> >>> 5. To check things are working before I save the AppleScript, I'll first start a podcast playing in iTunes. Then I'll switch back to the AppleScript Editor window with Command-tab and use Command-R to run the script (rather than just compiling it with Command-K). If this works as it should, QuickTime Player 7 will be launched, and you'll start hearing the same podcast playing at faster speed in QuickTime Player 7. I'll actually paste the first script to speed up playing into the AppleScript Editor, then open a second window with Command-N, and paste the second AppleScript to resume iTunes playback before starting my playback checks. So after using Command-R to run the first script, and hearing the podcast play at speed, I'll use Command-accent (where accent is the leftmost key in the row of number on an English language input keyboard) to switch to the second AppleScript Editor window, and press Command-R to run it, and check whether playback transfers back to iTunes a > t >> n >>> ormal speed. >>> >>> 6. Save your AppleScripts using Command-S under names you select, e.g. "Play Faster" and "Normal Speed". I use Command-Shift-G in Finder to navigate to my account's Library folder by typing: >>> ~/Library/ >>> into the dialog window and pressing return. Then I create a folder named "Scripts". (This may not be case sensitive, but I use a capital "S"). I save these scripts to my "User Scripts File" -- the location pointed to under the AppleScript menu. You can also save these to the general /Library/Scripts folder of your hard drive, if you have permission to write in that folder. >>> 6a. Incidentally, I found a really quick way to make the Library folder under my account visible under Lion that does not involve typing a command in Terminal or getting TinkerTool to configure this. Go to Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes web page that describes "Installing AppleScripts under OS X Lion": >>> http://dougscripts.com/itunes/2011/07/installing-applescripts-under-os-x-lion/ >>> 6b. Navigate to the link for "download this AppleScript applet" and download the file (Option-Return). >>> 6c. Open the "Show Downloads" window in Safari with Command-Option-L and navigate to the group, interact twice to get to the "Make Users Library Folder Visible" downloaded item group items, and navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the "Show in Finder" button then press (VO-Space). >>> 6d. Command-Down arrow to launch the applet in Finder. Your Library folder is now visible. (This took a few seconds to do, and much longer to type out instructions.) >>> >>> 7. You can now use these AppleScripts to speed up and slow down your listening of podcasts and audiobooks. Start a podcast, audiobook, or movie track playing in iTunes, then navigate to the AppleScripts menu and select your "Play Faster" AppleScript to shift playback to QuickTime Player 7. Then select the "Normal Speed" AppleScript to shift back to iTunes and record your current position before pausing/stopping. >>> >>> There are some limitations on this: QuickTime Player can only be used on tracks without DRM, so Audible audiobooks or books purchased from the iTunes Store cannot be sped up this way. Neither can you use this to speed up commercial movies or TV shows that you purchase, but video clips without DRM will work. Also, I assume you use the "Get Info" (Command-I) shortcut to change the "Media Kind" pop up menu setting of your tracks to "Podcast" or "Audiobook" on the Option tab, and to check the boxes for "Remember playback position" and "Skip when shuffling". If I download Eric's podcast about list recorder from its Dropbox location and add it to my iTunes library, it will go into my Music library, and will start playing from the beginning of the track, because iTunes has no way of distinguishing this as a podcast unless you make the changes. >>> >>> The AppleScripts menu on the status menu bar can be accessed from any app, so you can navigate to other applications and work while listening to the podcast. You can do more complicated setups that involved assigning keyboard shortcuts or making these AppleScripts into Services with Automator instead. This is just a very basic way to solve the problem. >>> >>> If you want to read more about this basis these AppleScripts, check out the Mac OS X Hints web page from 2006 on "Listen to podcasts at 1.5x speed": >>> http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060103000452805 >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Mon Feb 27 15:23:53 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:23:53 +0000 Subject: tethering Message-ID: <4f4b9c25.0755b40a.1331.ffffa26a@mx.google.com> as far as i know, i can't access the wireless network where i work for accessing web pages. i try to access the internet via my i-phone connected to one of the usb ports on my mac. how do i know if my mac is using my i-phone when i tether the two devices? i ask because sometimes i think i get a connection but sometimes it doesn't connect. as far as i know nothing is shown on the status of my i-phone or when i check the networks on my mac after i do vo plus m twice and arrow to the networks or wifi menu. i always keep wifi turned on on both my i-phone and my mac so i am not sure if this is why i sometimes establish a connection to be able to send and receive emails and sometimes access pages or not. From fitzcl at centurylink.net Mon Feb 27 15:35:26 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:35:26 -0800 Subject: Deleting an ICloud account Message-ID: <000601ccf565$6e7e6160$4b7b2420$@net> I have a new ID for ICloud now, but when my IPhone turns on it tells me it is not able to access the old one. I ignore it, but it happens every time. Where is that setting? Catherine Golding Olympia, Washington From weavermicha at googlemail.com Mon Feb 27 16:17:47 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:17:47 +0000 Subject: still a problem with mac mail Message-ID: <4f4ba8c7.e35eb40a.353b.ffffa596@mx.google.com> i am still having a problem with mac mail in lion moving my email from the inbox to my trash folder and when i move it back, i am still getting duplicate messages on my i-phone. as my i-phone is dealing with mail properly, is there a possibility of syncing my email settings on my i-phone to mac mail or is it a question of deleting and re entering my account details for bt or even drastically re installing lion in order to fix my problem? someone else i have spoken to about my problem doesn't appear to have the same problem on their macbook? for some reason entering my account settings only wants to grab the default settings from the internet and i am wondering if some of these are causing my problem as it seems to only want to choose imamp even though i have my settings on my notetaker as pop 3. From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Feb 27 16:55:56 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:55:56 +0000 Subject: tethering In-Reply-To: <4f4b9c25.0755b40a.1331.ffffa26a@mx.google.com> References: <4f4b9c25.0755b40a.1331.ffffa26a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4F4BB59C.3020108@techno-chat.net> Is Personal Hotspot turned on under settings? If turned on and you connect via USB, a connection will be established automatically. On 27/02/2012 15:23, michael weaver wrote: > as far as i know, i can't access the wireless network where i work for > accessing web pages. > i try to access the internet via my i-phone connected to one of the usb > ports on my mac. > how do i know if my mac is using my i-phone when i tether the two devices? > i ask because sometimes i think i get a connection but sometimes it > doesn't connect. > as far as i know nothing is shown on the status of my i-phone or when i > check the networks on my mac after i do vo plus m twice and arrow to the > networks or wifi menu. > i always keep wifi turned on on both my i-phone and my mac so i am not > sure if this is why i sometimes establish a connection to be able to > send and receive emails and sometimes access pages or not. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Mon Feb 27 17:00:19 2012 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:00:19 +0000 Subject: tethering In-Reply-To: <4F4BB59C.3020108@techno-chat.net> References: <4f4b9c25.0755b40a.1331.ffffa26a@mx.google.com> <4F4BB59C.3020108@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Hi. Also, it is recommended to turn off WiFi on he iPhone for Personal Hotspot to work properly to avoid issues. HTH. Lewis. On 27 Feb 2012, at 16:55, chris hallsworth wrote: > Is Personal Hotspot turned on under settings? If turned on and you connect via USB, a connection will be established automatically. > > On 27/02/2012 15:23, michael weaver wrote: >> as far as i know, i can't access the wireless network where i work for >> accessing web pages. >> i try to access the internet via my i-phone connected to one of the usb >> ports on my mac. >> how do i know if my mac is using my i-phone when i tether the two devices? >> i ask because sometimes i think i get a connection but sometimes it >> doesn't connect. >> as far as i know nothing is shown on the status of my i-phone or when i >> check the networks on my mac after i do vo plus m twice and arrow to the >> networks or wifi menu. >> i always keep wifi turned on on both my i-phone and my mac so i am not >> sure if this is why i sometimes establish a connection to be able to >> send and receive emails and sometimes access pages or not. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Feb 27 18:17:32 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:17:32 -0500 Subject: APP RECOMMENDATIONS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0685659B-FD72-4354-A7EC-A6993F96A3EE@softcon.com> For nntp, you need to get a dedicated news reader. I used to use one called osxnews (I think) but it was for tiger, and I don't know if it's been updated since then, and there were (some) vo issues, though nothing that couldn't be worked around. There's a list of nntp readers for osx posted here: http://www.newsreaders.com/mac/clients.html I haven't tried any of the ones on the list except for (I think) osxnews, so I can't say how well they work or don't with vo, but it might be worth checking out. I no longer have access to nntp news groups, and to be honest, I don't miss them much, though every now and then, I find myself wishing I had access just for that quick question that usually got plenty of replies, and all you had to do was hunt down a group dedicated to your topic, and poof, instant gratification. I realize there's mailing lists, and discussion groups, but folks that never used news groups knows what is missing from those modes of communication. The lack of needing to sign up for one thing, and the complete lack of capcha is of course another plus, but alas, as I said, no nntp access now, and no funds to obtain one, and the free ones aren't up to the challenge in my opinion. hth. From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Feb 27 18:39:51 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:39:51 -0500 Subject: ncftpd [was Re: CrushFtp Server.] In-Reply-To: References: <50A50D67-7C71-4896-AD9B-8212CC65B588@softcon.com> <8AAF1F192F5F41158EA03F31B0D22160@MainComputer> <980F1A55-891E-435E-BFD4-DF0882141980@mac.com> Message-ID: <7B86E7EE-D06F-4A7B-8337-8A70B64140CB@softcon.com> On Feb 26, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Esther: > > Is there a front end on that server? I'm not very good with terminal. Unless something has changed, there is no gui front end, but the whole server is configured with two configuration files that are plain text, so configuring and setting it up is as simple as editing a couple text files, then starting the server pointing to those configuration files. And, also, the 3-user limitation is 3 simultaneous users, not 3 total users, so if you only run a small site, where loads of traffic isn't a problem, it may work just fine for your purposes. hth. From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Feb 27 18:50:31 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:50:31 -0500 Subject: Speeding up podcasts on the Mac [was Re: Speeding up podcasts on iphone] In-Reply-To: <83A22B6B-B511-403D-9B40-D632555E9215@gmail.com> References: <6CF53A2EDF8B4E6FB28137B677A2570A@DD952WB1> <154967EB-EEE9-4C79-8058-66E4D89F1A62@Mac-Access.net> <6C42245C-0966-4BE7-9B32-48ED231F0BCF@Mac-Access.net> <83A22B6B-B511-403D-9B40-D632555E9215@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0246A22B-5F6A-40CB-AFD0-88F23B9659FF@softcon.com> The trick to quicktime spead up is to first adjust the speed, then adjust the pitch to make it sound more normal. Quicktime doesn't automatically adjust pitch with speed, so you need to do that part yourself, but I think it turns out better for the experience, though I've not tried vlc for speeding things past normal, I'm not sure the version I have can do that, since it's fairly old, and this mac still has tiger, so not sure how far it can be upgraded, and besides, years of upgrading only to find they broke stuff in the upgrade has made me extremely cautious when it comes to upgrading my software versions. *grin* Too many times, I've upgraded a program, only to find they've removed features, or broken the interface, or worst yet, changed existing functionality so it no longer performs like it used to. That (imo) is not an upgrade, but most everyone likes the lates and greatest, regardless of functionality, so I leave them to it. :) From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Feb 27 18:53:02 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:53:02 -0500 Subject: itunes and podcasts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2A26F9EE-D2D5-4EE3-B27C-F72DB18AB6E9@softcon.com> When the podcast you want to listen to is highlighted, simply press enter, and it will begin to play. No need to fiddle around hunting for play buttons. hth. On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > Hi there. I do hope my emails are getting through. > I am wondering how to play a podcast that is downloaded? It shows > in my list and when I hit play I get a page of written material not > the podcast. > Hope someone can help. > Lovette > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- > access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Feb 27 19:08:12 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:08:12 -0500 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String In-Reply-To: <201202222039.q1MKdavv019875@x.it.okstate.edu> References: <201202222039.q1MKdavv019875@x.it.okstate.edu> Message-ID: <5ED68A88-ADA2-42D7-B7BD-D3B585F24E35@softcon.com> On Feb 22, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > I forgot to mention that I am still running Snowleopard > and its version of safari which may be the problem, here. This can't be your problem. I'm using tiger, and the develop menu item shows up for me when I have the option selected (which I always do) so the version of os/safari can't be it. (just thought I'd offer you more good news) :) > As for Lion's processes being properly protected from > one another, it could be that the resources of the system are > being severely strained by one or more applications especially > if voiceover is running. It really shouldn't just melt down. This is very true, but one I've seen a lot of on the apple disscussion groups, and something I've noticed for myself is that those apps don't always release all their memory when they finish a task. For example, I've discovered that opening and closing multiple windows in safari tends to deplete usable memory fairly quickly, which for me is a real problem, since I do a lot of window opening and closing, since I have safari set to open each document in a new window when it's clicked on from outside safari. This tends to make safari very sluggish after opening a few links from mail when html versions of emails are available (did I mention I use plain text emails too) So, a lot of times, I need to either view the raw source of the message to get the html code, or just click on the stupid link that says click this link to see this message in your browser. Anyway, it helps to quit and relaunch programs once in a while that have been running for several days, especially ones like safari and mail, since they do tend to hog memory the long they run. My experience only of course, I'm not speaking for apple here, only stating my own observations of course. But, I'm fairly convinced, both of these programs have several memory leaks, so it's good to refresh them from time to time. :) Again, I'm not saying relaunch them everytime you have memory problems, but if you've had mail and/or safari running for several days, and your system seems a bit sluggish, relaunching these two biggest offenders usually solves the problem for me. From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Feb 27 19:10:34 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:10:34 -0500 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String In-Reply-To: <201202231436.q1NEagEI024212@x.it.okstate.edu> References: <201202231436.q1NEagEI024212@x.it.okstate.edu> Message-ID: <14EF8E7F-E167-4D37-9032-1342C5EDDA47@softcon.com> Yes, it's the vo-m menu bar we're talking about here. It goes apple: safari: file: edit: view: history: bookmarks: develop: window and help. hth. From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Feb 27 19:12:02 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:12:02 -0500 Subject: Changing Safari's ID String In-Reply-To: <201202231619.q1NGJQBo024769@x.it.okstate.edu> References: <201202231619.q1NGJQBo024769@x.it.okstate.edu> Message-ID: <089D2501-4335-4211-945E-21A58F9D7E96@softcon.com> Ah well then, forget my last two messages. :) And forget it, we all make mistakes, I've done silly things like that before too, and I'm usually pretty good at this stuff. On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: > I really feel stupid right about now. > Esther writes: >> If you navigate to the menu bar (with VO-M or Control-F2), then VO- >> Right >> arrow past "Safari" or press "D" (with QuickNav off), can you >> access the >> "Develop" menu on the Safari menu bar? It should be to the right of >> "Bookmarks". > > It's all there. This was a great combination of trying > to make something harder than it should be by not being thorough > enough. I am used to seeing the Menu bar with Apple Finder, > File, Edit, View Window and Help. When I started Safari, > safari's menu was right next to Apple and then there was File and > Edit again which made me think that was all the new links and > stop looking. I also thought this new menu might be in safari, > itself so I kept looking in there for something new and didn't > really go through the entire menu bar from one end to the other > as the next two links past safari seemed familiar so why go on? > Just one more link over would have told me everything. > > I was not very smart this time. > > Thanks very much to all of you for your help. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- > access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 21:56:55 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:56:55 -0500 Subject: A text edit question Message-ID: Is there any way to no only find a text string in your document, but then to actually go there? What's the point in finding it if you can't ever go there to make a change or insert other text? Kristeen From moriond at mac.com Mon Feb 27 22:02:01 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:02:01 -1000 Subject: Using Mac as bluetooth keyboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7977EC42-48B7-4B0F-861D-1247C9F94FB5@mac.com> Hello Daniela, The Type2Phone app was mainly for pasting in text from app on the Mac. I notice that since I originally tested the app (at the end of December), Type2Phone has updated from version 1.2 to 1.3.1. At the time that I was using Snow Leopard on a MacBook Pro, and could make the app navigate with my keystrokes if I turned VoiceOver off. When I tested it just now (after an upgrade to Lion, and using the latest version, on a MacBook Air) my keyboard controls behaved very differently, and rather oddly. For example, previously I had been able to use VO-Space as well as QuickNav. Well, when I was in the edit field of a document, with VoiceOver turned off on the Mac, I tried to turn QuickNav on from within an editable document text area. Initially the left and right arrow keys didn't turn this on, but Command+Right arrow did, and VoiceOver said "QuickNav on". Then, I could navigate with the QuickNav arrow keys, but not with Control-Option-Right or Left arrow (i.e., VO-Left arrow and VO-Right arrow), even with QuickNav turned off. This used to work, along with VO-Space, when I turned VoiceOver off, although it was not as stable as in iKeyboard. However, once I took focus away from the text area (by using gestures on the touch screen), I could navigate back to the home screen and start my music playing, and skip to the next song and control volume with the media access F-keys. I could also launch other apps. This feels as though the keyboard is not being correctly mapped, since the behavior is inconsistent. Another time, trying to press VO-H (Control-Option-H) to return to the home screen from within the text area started deleting characters. Ignoring the Option, key, pressing Control-H was sending the character delete sequence, as in some unix and linux connections. At one point, when I was pressing the Up and Down arrow keys (in QuickNav mode, as I thought), I ended up cycling through my different input language keyboards. I think one of the issues may be that I have a lot of different input language keyboards on my iPhone and on my Mac. The Type2Phone program always works correctly when I am typing straight text, but when I use VoiceOver's keyboard control, I may have started in an input language keyboard other than US English (which is what my Mac uses by default). I tried setting the language in the rotor by gesture, and at one point simultaneously pressing the up and down arrow keys started cycling me through the different input language keyboards on my iPhone. Sorry for the rambling account. The bottom line is that the text input exchange between Mac apps and iOS device works fine with Type2Phone. You do need to disable the Mission Control keyboard shortcuts here, too, if you want to use all the editing navigation shortcuts and media player controls. The VoiceOver navigation control seems quirky, but this may depend on the keyboard identification being used by the app. I don't know whether the current MacBook Air keyboard (which lacks an eject key, for the first time) is not getting its other control keys correctly identified, or whether starting with a different input language keyboard through VoiceOver selection on the iPhone is causing a conflict of definitions. This probably can be made to work with VoiceOver with some feedback to the developer. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 26, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote: > Hello: > Thank you so much for the tip on Type2Phone. I just got it and it is great! The only thing is that I can't use Voiceover commands on my iPhone, it doesn't seems to recognize them. When I type text with my mac, it appears on my iPhone, but if I do vo wright arrow, vo Left arrow or vo space, it won't to anything, even with voiceover turned off on my Mac. Any ideas? > Thank you so much! > > SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. > MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. > EN TWITTER: @macneticos > NUESTRO BLOG EN: > www.macneticus.blogspot.com > Y EL PODCAST EN:` > http://macneticos.libsyn.com > > > > El 27/02/2012, a las 03:14, Esther escribi?: > >> Hi Jane, >> >> If you want a configuration that will work most closely like a paired Apple Wireless Keyboard for the iPhone, then iKeyboard ($9.99 from the Mac App Store) is the one that will let you type on your computer keyboard the same way. You have to turn VoiceOver off for your computer with Command-F5 after pairing your device through Bluetooth. At that point, the keystrokes you press on the keyboard act on the iOS device, which in your case would be the iPad. Using QuickNav navigation or VO-Right arrow or Left arrow moves you through your controls, and using VO-Space or simultaneously pressing the Up and Down arrow keys will press buttons and activate links, etc. The one addition I would make to last December's discussion is a recommendation for Lion users that you disable all the shortcuts associated with the Mission Control shortcuts category in the Keyboard Shortcuts tab of System Preferences > Keyboard so that all normal keyboard shortcuts for iOS devices are available to you. Otherwise, it can be puzzling when a some sequences don't work, and end up having launched Mission Control options on your Mac, when you return to it. More details about that below. >> >> The Type2Phone app ($4.99) gives me some different functionality. I don't turn VoiceOver off to use it, but I can Command-tab to another application on my Mac, copy text to my clipboard, then paste the text I copied from that app on my Mac into a mail message, or text field of a note app on my iOS device with Command-V. With iKeyboard, the clipboards of the Mac and iOS device remain separate, at least as of the current version. I tried keyboard navigation with Type2Phone, and could do it with VoiceOver turned off, but it was less robust. (Type2Phone got started later than iKeyboard; the evidence is that iKeyboard went through similar issues before maturing. Also more language keyboards are currently supported by iKeyboard, though again that appears to reflect the earlier start, as Type2Phone has been adding more keyboards in recent versions.) >> >> There are a few other comments, and maybe Ed, Justin, or others who have iKeyboard can weigh in. At the time I reviewed these apps I was running Snow Leopard. Mission Control in Lion has some shortcut keys that conflict with the key navigation shortcuts you'd use with your iOS device. I ended up going into System Preferences > Keyboard then going to the "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab and selecting the "Mission Control" in table of "Shortcut Categories". Then I unchecked all the boxes in the second table of "Keyboard Shortcuts". >> >> If I use the default setup for Lion without disabling these shortcuts, Control-Up Arrow launches Mission Control or takes me out of it, and Control-Down Arrow shows the Desktop. Pressing F10 brings up a screen of application windows. I have to ask whether any VoiceOver users in Lion use these features. It's possible to navigate through the Mission Control Expos?d windows -- unlike Expos? under Leopard and Snow Leopard -- and it's also possible to navigate through all the application windows, but still not really useful to a VO user, I think, compared to using Command-tab. >> >> So what happens is that if I don't disable these shortcuts, when I want to quickly navigate to the dock by using Control-Down Arrow or to the first element on the screen with Control-Up Arrow, nothing at all happens, and because VoiceOver on my Mac is toggled off, I can't find out what happens until I press Command-F5, since the "whoosh" sounds that indicate I've been moved to Mission Control of my Desktop don't get played. That's also true for pressing F10 to mute a playing track -- if the shortcut assignment to bring up Application Windows is not unchecked, nothing happens, and on my Mac there are now these Application windows launched. Similarly, if I have started music playing on my iPhone or iPad, pressing F12 only increases my volume if the key assignment to Dashboard is unchecked. So I just uncheck all these boxes in the table of shortcuts for "Mission Control" under my System Preferences > Keyboard window in the Keyboard Shortcuts tab. >> >> If you use Command-F5 to turn on VoiceOver on your Mac, you lose the ability to navigate or type on your iOS device. You also won't be able to enter text with the virtual keyboard, as long as the Bluetooth connection with your Mac through an active iKeyboard app is maintained, unless you first press the F5 key to toggle on/off the virtual keyboard. >> >> There are a bunch of pre-defined F-key functions that resemble what's available with the iPad Keyboard Dock. You can check these out by putting your "paired" iKeyboard into VoiceOver's keyboard help mode with VO-K. (I mean Control-Option-K, here, in the usual shorthand). I'll paste in the list from the App description, and just note that if you have checked the box on the "Keyboards" tab on the "Keyboard" Menu of System Preferences for "Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as standard function keys", all the F-keys work directly without "FN" prefixes. If you've disabled the Mission Control keyboard shortcut definitions, then all your media function keys will work, too. F2 only affects you if you have multiple input language keyboards. Then, pressing F2 switches you to the next input keyboard, just like pressing Command-space does. Finally, I'll note that just as on the iPad Keyboard Dock, the escape key acts like a "Home" button. That means you can double click it to get to the App Switcher or triple click it to turn VoiceOver on and off. Pretty neat, since that isn't a function of the Apple Wireless Keyboard. Pasted in shortcut list of F-keys follows (without editing to remove the "FN" prefixes). >> >> ESC: Home button >> FN+F1 : Search button >> FN+F2 : Input method selection >> FN+F3 : Apple Logo >> FN+F4 : iPad slide show >> FN+F5 : Show/hide virtual keyboard >> FN+F6 : Lock button >> FN+F7 : Previous song >> FN+F8 : Play/Stop >> FN+F9 : Next song >> FN+F10: Mute >> FN+F11: Volume down >> FN+F12: Volume up >> >> Finally, I'll just mention that if you switch VoiceOver on again with Command-F5, you're placed in iKeyboard's interface, which is an extended keyboard. If you navigate with your arrow keys you'll find this is a full keyboard layout, with the "Fn" key in a six-pack of controls, and with a separate numeric keypad. The functions of the F-keys in the top row aren't announced. In fact, the set that are normally associated with a laptop keyboard are all announced as "unchecked checkbox", and unless you have hints turned on, you won't hear them as F1, F2, etc. >> >> HTH. I've spent more time playing around with Lion than trying these functions out. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 26, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Jane wrote: >> >>> I read back in December about a couple of apps, iKeyboard and Type2Phone that let you type to your iPad or iPod or iPhone using the Mac's keyboard through bluetooth. >>> >>> I can't seem to figure out which would be best, and I don't want to spend money if neither will do what I want. >>> >>> I want to be able to type using the keyboard. I also want to be able to double-tap on buttons and do other bluetooth keyboard shortcuts. Will either of these work? >>> >>> Jane >> From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Feb 27 22:22:20 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:22:20 +0000 Subject: A text edit question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <24D9D136-0E22-4C61-BA2E-E8F4CB5F9C31@mac-access.net> Hi Christine, I think I know where you might be confused. Under OS X Lion, the search functionality has been altered slightly. When using Command+F to execute the "Find", command, after typing in your search string you need to then press Escape to exit the search field. You will then find your cursor where you expect, with the word or string highlighted. You should then be able to edit to your heart's content. You can also use VO+F to launch VoiceOver's "Find" function, but do to several factors including the limited space provided for typing a string, I prefer to use the application's in-built "Find" command. Hope this helps TC :) J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 27 Feb 2012, at 21:56, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > Is there any way to no only find a text string in your document, but then to actually go there? What's the point in finding it if you can't ever go there to make a change or insert other text? > > Kristeen > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 22:41:04 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:41:04 -0500 Subject: Dictation for the Mac? Message-ID: Hello, I have to do a lot of typing and currently have an injured arm. I'm wondering if there's a Dragon Naturally Speaking solution for the Mac and if any of you know how well it works with Voiceover. Kristeen From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Feb 27 22:53:25 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:53:25 +0000 Subject: Dictation for the Mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Christine, The solution I think you're looking for is called macSpeech. It is made by Nuance, and you can find the Homepage here: http://www.nuance.com/for-individuals/by-product/dragon-for-mac/index.htm Please bare in mind, that my comments are based on past enquiries to Nuance. That being said, I do not know if accessibility has improved recently.. The last time I saw an in-depth discussion on-list about this, I seem to remember that the initial training for the app was inaccessible. This training is important, as it allows MacSpeech to become accustomed to your voice, although it may be possible to bypass this and train as you go. From a quick search in the App Store, it does not seem to be available there. Also, I do not believe the company is willing to provide free trials, although they did offer a money-back guarantee when i last enquired about purchasing. There may however be a cheaper solution lurking somewhere, as MacSpeech seems to be quite pricy if you only plan to use it until your arm gets better. I hope this helps TC :) James You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 27 Feb 2012, at 22:41, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > Hello, > I have to do a lot of typing and currently have an injured arm. I'm wondering if there's a Dragon Naturally Speaking solution for the Mac and if any of you know how well it works with Voiceover. > > Kristeen > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From solsticesinger at gmail.com Mon Feb 27 23:18:46 2012 From: solsticesinger at gmail.com (Shannon Dyer) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:18:46 -0500 Subject: A text edit question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <849ACCA6-1308-41B3-88A3-37843DFE0569@gmail.com> If you ever find the answer to this, I'd love to know it. Text Edit is more than happy to tell me that such a string exists, but it doesn't actually take me there. I find it very frustrating. Shannon Shannon Dyer Alumni Council Member, Guide Dog Foundation for the Blind, Inc ? and America's VetDogs?, The Veteran's K-9 Corps Inc ? Providing "Second Sight" ? since 1946 371 E. Jericho Turnpike, Smithtown, NY 11787 Office: 631-930-9000, Toll-free: 866-282-8047 solsticesinger at gmail.com To make a donation that can change a life...contact the Guide Dog Foundation at www.guidedog.org or America's VetDogs the Veterans K-9 Corps at www.vetdogs.org Visit us on facebook at: www.facebook.com/GuideDogFoundation or www.facebook.com/AmericasVetDogs On Feb 27, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > Is there any way to no only find a text string in your document, but then to actually go there? What's the point in finding it if you can't ever go there to make a change or insert other text? > > Kristeen > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 00:34:55 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 19:34:55 -0500 Subject: Finding mail messages and signatures Message-ID: <1BF14695-0B94-4032-8AC4-B49C237B389A@gmail.com> I hope this question makes sense. If you want to find mail messages with a specific term such as sendspace, do you always have to create a smart mailbox to view them? I can't figure out another way. Also, I seem to be unable to create a signature. I can only put something on the space that says name and I can't press enter and put something on other lines. Is there a way to do signatures? I did it once before, but wonder what has changed. Kristeen From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Feb 28 01:15:08 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:15:08 -0400 Subject: ncftpd [was Re: CrushFtp Server.] In-Reply-To: <7B86E7EE-D06F-4A7B-8337-8A70B64140CB@softcon.com> References: <50A50D67-7C71-4896-AD9B-8212CC65B588@softcon.com> <8AAF1F192F5F41158EA03F31B0D22160@MainComputer> <980F1A55-891E-435E-BFD4-DF0882141980@mac.com> <7B86E7EE-D06F-4A7B-8337-8A70B64140CB@softcon.com> Message-ID: Hey Travis: Thanks all over the place. I've finally gotten Pure-FTPD up and running. Again, thanks all over the place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:39 PM Subject: Re: ncftpd [was Re: CrushFtp Server.] > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Esther: >> >> Is there a front end on that server? I'm not very good with terminal. > Unless something has changed, there is no gui front end, but the whole > server is configured with two configuration files that are plain text, so > configuring and setting it up is as simple as editing a couple text > files, then starting the server pointing to those configuration files. > And, also, the 3-user limitation is 3 simultaneous users, not 3 total > users, so if you only run a small site, where loads of traffic isn't a > problem, it may work just fine for your purposes. > hth. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6920 (20120227) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6920 (20120227) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 01:55:56 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 19:55:56 -0600 Subject: Finding mail messages and signatures In-Reply-To: <1BF14695-0B94-4032-8AC4-B49C237B389A@gmail.com> References: <1BF14695-0B94-4032-8AC4-B49C237B389A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5BC3C958-2212-4E8E-880C-E96D15884134@gmail.com> A couple of years ago I wrote all I wanted in n a sig in Text edit then just copied and pasted. That was with Tiger though, haven't done it yet with Lion. On Feb 27, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > I hope this question makes sense. If you want to find mail messages with a specific term such as sendspace, do you always have to create a smart mailbox to view them? I can't figure out another way. > > Also, I seem to be unable to create a signature. I can only put something on the space that says name and I can't press enter and put something on other lines. Is there a way to do signatures? I did it once before, but wonder what has changed. > > Kristeen > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Tue Feb 28 02:26:38 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:26:38 -0500 Subject: Finding mail messages and signatures In-Reply-To: <5BC3C958-2212-4E8E-880C-E96D15884134@gmail.com> References: <1BF14695-0B94-4032-8AC4-B49C237B389A@gmail.com> <5BC3C958-2212-4E8E-880C-E96D15884134@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Christine, Have you tried using the Mailbox Search function in Mail? You can get to it by pressing Command+Option+F or by navigating through the Edit menu. This will place your cursor in the Find window and as you type Mail will search through your mailboxes to find messages containing the terms. The results will appear in your message list. To get more details on this command, try typing the word "find" in the search box found in the Help menu. HTH, Bryan > On Feb 27, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > . If you want to find mail messages with a specific term such as sendspace, do you always have to create a smart mailbox to view them? I can't figure out another way. From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 05:21:44 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 00:21:44 -0500 Subject: Dictation for the Mac? References: Message-ID: <714E52231E464A23AB01B0EA5CE563A5@DD952WB1> Hi Kristeen, If you own a 4S, a less expensive alternative you may want to consider is the two dollar IOS app called Dictabulus recently described in David Woodbridge's podcast. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "James AUSTIN" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Dictation for the Mac? > Hi Christine, > > The solution I think you're looking for is called macSpeech. It is made by Nuance, and you can find the Homepage here: > http://www.nuance.com/for-individuals/by-product/dragon-for-mac/index.htm > > Please bare in mind, that my comments are based on past enquiries to Nuance. That being said, I do not know if accessibility has improved recently.. The last time I saw an in-depth discussion on-list about this, I seem to remember that the initial training for the app was inaccessible. This training is important, as it allows MacSpeech to become accustomed to your voice, although it may be possible to bypass this and train as you go. > > From a quick search in the App Store, it does not seem to be available there. Also, I do not believe the company is willing to provide free trials, although they did offer a money-back guarantee when i last enquired about purchasing. > > There may however be a cheaper solution lurking somewhere, as MacSpeech seems to be quite pricy if you only plan to use it until your arm gets better. > > I hope this helps > > TC :) > James > You can contact me in the following ways: > E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you > > On 27 Feb 2012, at 22:41, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > >> Hello, >> I have to do a lot of typing and currently have an injured arm. I'm wondering if there's a Dragon Naturally Speaking solution for the Mac and if any of you know how well it works with Voiceover. >> >> Kristeen >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From mabuhay94 at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 07:31:33 2012 From: mabuhay94 at gmail.com (Daniela Rubio) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:31:33 +0100 Subject: Using Mac as bluetooth keyboard In-Reply-To: <7977EC42-48B7-4B0F-861D-1247C9F94FB5@mac.com> References: <7977EC42-48B7-4B0F-861D-1247C9F94FB5@mac.com> Message-ID: <0E63F50F-7D72-4436-85AA-5E7B564B941A@gmail.com> Thank you very much Esther: I really find out that the Type2Phone App works good for exactly that, pasting text from the mac to the iPhone. I also disabled the mission controls on Lion from system preferences and it is possible to control media in a good way. Let's see if the key making works better in other ersions, I will try to contact the developer and see if it can work OK with voiceover, because it seems to be a good App. Thank you very much for the tips! Take care SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 27/02/2012, a las 23:02, Esther escribi?: > Hello Daniela, > > The Type2Phone app was mainly for pasting in text from app on the Mac. I notice that since I originally tested the app (at the end of December), Type2Phone has updated from version 1.2 to 1.3.1. At the time that I was using Snow Leopard on a MacBook Pro, and could make the app navigate with my keystrokes if I turned VoiceOver off. When I tested it just now (after an upgrade to Lion, and using the latest version, on a MacBook Air) my keyboard controls behaved very differently, and rather oddly. > > For example, previously I had been able to use VO-Space as well as QuickNav. Well, when I was in the edit field of a document, with VoiceOver turned off on the Mac, I tried to turn QuickNav on from within an editable document text area. Initially the left and right arrow keys didn't turn this on, but Command+Right arrow did, and VoiceOver said "QuickNav on". Then, I could navigate with the QuickNav arrow keys, but not with Control-Option-Right or Left arrow (i.e., VO-Left arrow and VO-Right arrow), even with QuickNav turned off. This used to work, along with VO-Space, when I turned VoiceOver off, although it was not as stable as in iKeyboard. However, once I took focus away from the text area (by using gestures on the touch screen), I could navigate back to the home screen and start my music playing, and skip to the next song and control volume with the media access F-keys. I could also launch other apps. > > This feels as though the keyboard is not being correctly mapped, since the behavior is inconsistent. Another time, trying to press VO-H (Control-Option-H) to return to the home screen from within the text area started deleting characters. Ignoring the Option, key, pressing Control-H was sending the character delete sequence, as in some unix and linux connections. > > At one point, when I was pressing the Up and Down arrow keys (in QuickNav mode, as I thought), I ended up cycling through my different input language keyboards. > > I think one of the issues may be that I have a lot of different input language keyboards on my iPhone and on my Mac. The Type2Phone program always works correctly when I am typing straight text, but when I use VoiceOver's keyboard control, I may have started in an input language keyboard other than US English (which is what my Mac uses by default). I tried setting the language in the rotor by gesture, and at one point simultaneously pressing the up and down arrow keys started cycling me through the different input language keyboards on my iPhone. > > Sorry for the rambling account. The bottom line is that the text input exchange between Mac apps and iOS device works fine with Type2Phone. You do need to disable the Mission Control keyboard shortcuts here, too, if you want to use all the editing navigation shortcuts and media player controls. The VoiceOver navigation control seems quirky, but this may depend on the keyboard identification being used by the app. I don't know whether the current MacBook Air keyboard (which lacks an eject key, for the first time) is not getting its other control keys correctly identified, or whether starting with a different input language keyboard through VoiceOver selection on the iPhone is causing a conflict of definitions. This probably can be made to work with VoiceOver with some feedback to the developer. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote: > >> Hello: >> Thank you so much for the tip on Type2Phone. I just got it and it is great! The only thing is that I can't use Voiceover commands on my iPhone, it doesn't seems to recognize them. When I type text with my mac, it appears on my iPhone, but if I do vo wright arrow, vo Left arrow or vo space, it won't to anything, even with voiceover turned off on my Mac. Any ideas? >> Thank you so much! >> >> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. >> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. >> EN TWITTER: @macneticos >> NUESTRO BLOG EN: >> www.macneticus.blogspot.com >> Y EL PODCAST EN:` >> http://macneticos.libsyn.com >> >> >> >> El 27/02/2012, a las 03:14, Esther escribi?: >> >>> Hi Jane, >>> >>> If you want a configuration that will work most closely like a paired Apple Wireless Keyboard for the iPhone, then iKeyboard ($9.99 from the Mac App Store) is the one that will let you type on your computer keyboard the same way. You have to turn VoiceOver off for your computer with Command-F5 after pairing your device through Bluetooth. At that point, the keystrokes you press on the keyboard act on the iOS device, which in your case would be the iPad. Using QuickNav navigation or VO-Right arrow or Left arrow moves you through your controls, and using VO-Space or simultaneously pressing the Up and Down arrow keys will press buttons and activate links, etc. The one addition I would make to last December's discussion is a recommendation for Lion users that you disable all the shortcuts associated with the Mission Control shortcuts category in the Keyboard Shortcuts tab of System Preferences > Keyboard so that all normal keyboard shortcuts for iOS devices are available to you. Otherwise, it can be puzzling when a some sequences don't work, and end up having launched Mission Control options on your Mac, when you return to it. More details about that below. >>> >>> The Type2Phone app ($4.99) gives me some different functionality. I don't turn VoiceOver off to use it, but I can Command-tab to another application on my Mac, copy text to my clipboard, then paste the text I copied from that app on my Mac into a mail message, or text field of a note app on my iOS device with Command-V. With iKeyboard, the clipboards of the Mac and iOS device remain separate, at least as of the current version. I tried keyboard navigation with Type2Phone, and could do it with VoiceOver turned off, but it was less robust. (Type2Phone got started later than iKeyboard; the evidence is that iKeyboard went through similar issues before maturing. Also more language keyboards are currently supported by iKeyboard, though again that appears to reflect the earlier start, as Type2Phone has been adding more keyboards in recent versions.) >>> >>> There are a few other comments, and maybe Ed, Justin, or others who have iKeyboard can weigh in. At the time I reviewed these apps I was running Snow Leopard. Mission Control in Lion has some shortcut keys that conflict with the key navigation shortcuts you'd use with your iOS device. I ended up going into System Preferences > Keyboard then going to the "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab and selecting the "Mission Control" in table of "Shortcut Categories". Then I unchecked all the boxes in the second table of "Keyboard Shortcuts". >>> >>> If I use the default setup for Lion without disabling these shortcuts, Control-Up Arrow launches Mission Control or takes me out of it, and Control-Down Arrow shows the Desktop. Pressing F10 brings up a screen of application windows. I have to ask whether any VoiceOver users in Lion use these features. It's possible to navigate through the Mission Control Expos?d windows -- unlike Expos? under Leopard and Snow Leopard -- and it's also possible to navigate through all the application windows, but still not really useful to a VO user, I think, compared to using Command-tab. >>> >>> So what happens is that if I don't disable these shortcuts, when I want to quickly navigate to the dock by using Control-Down Arrow or to the first element on the screen with Control-Up Arrow, nothing at all happens, and because VoiceOver on my Mac is toggled off, I can't find out what happens until I press Command-F5, since the "whoosh" sounds that indicate I've been moved to Mission Control of my Desktop don't get played. That's also true for pressing F10 to mute a playing track -- if the shortcut assignment to bring up Application Windows is not unchecked, nothing happens, and on my Mac there are now these Application windows launched. Similarly, if I have started music playing on my iPhone or iPad, pressing F12 only increases my volume if the key assignment to Dashboard is unchecked. So I just uncheck all these boxes in the table of shortcuts for "Mission Control" under my System Preferences > Keyboard window in the Keyboard Shortcuts tab. >>> >>> If you use Command-F5 to turn on VoiceOver on your Mac, you lose the ability to navigate or type on your iOS device. You also won't be able to enter text with the virtual keyboard, as long as the Bluetooth connection with your Mac through an active iKeyboard app is maintained, unless you first press the F5 key to toggle on/off the virtual keyboard. >>> >>> There are a bunch of pre-defined F-key functions that resemble what's available with the iPad Keyboard Dock. You can check these out by putting your "paired" iKeyboard into VoiceOver's keyboard help mode with VO-K. (I mean Control-Option-K, here, in the usual shorthand). I'll paste in the list from the App description, and just note that if you have checked the box on the "Keyboards" tab on the "Keyboard" Menu of System Preferences for "Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as standard function keys", all the F-keys work directly without "FN" prefixes. If you've disabled the Mission Control keyboard shortcut definitions, then all your media function keys will work, too. F2 only affects you if you have multiple input language keyboards. Then, pressing F2 switches you to the next input keyboard, just like pressing Command-space does. Finally, I'll note that just as on the iPad Keyboard Dock, the escape key acts like a "Home" button. That means you can double click it to get to the App Switcher or triple click it to turn VoiceOver on and off. Pretty neat, since that isn't a function of the Apple Wireless Keyboard. Pasted in shortcut list of F-keys follows (without editing to remove the "FN" prefixes). >>> >>> ESC: Home button >>> FN+F1 : Search button >>> FN+F2 : Input method selection >>> FN+F3 : Apple Logo >>> FN+F4 : iPad slide show >>> FN+F5 : Show/hide virtual keyboard >>> FN+F6 : Lock button >>> FN+F7 : Previous song >>> FN+F8 : Play/Stop >>> FN+F9 : Next song >>> FN+F10: Mute >>> FN+F11: Volume down >>> FN+F12: Volume up >>> >>> Finally, I'll just mention that if you switch VoiceOver on again with Command-F5, you're placed in iKeyboard's interface, which is an extended keyboard. If you navigate with your arrow keys you'll find this is a full keyboard layout, with the "Fn" key in a six-pack of controls, and with a separate numeric keypad. The functions of the F-keys in the top row aren't announced. In fact, the set that are normally associated with a laptop keyboard are all announced as "unchecked checkbox", and unless you have hints turned on, you won't hear them as F1, F2, etc. >>> >>> HTH. I've spent more time playing around with Lion than trying these functions out. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Feb 26, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Jane wrote: >>> >>>> I read back in December about a couple of apps, iKeyboard and Type2Phone that let you type to your iPad or iPod or iPhone using the Mac's keyboard through bluetooth. >>>> >>>> I can't seem to figure out which would be best, and I don't want to spend money if neither will do what I want. >>>> >>>> I want to be able to type using the keyboard. I also want to be able to double-tap on buttons and do other bluetooth keyboard shortcuts. Will either of these work? >>>> >>>> Jane >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mabuhay94 at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 07:45:20 2012 From: mabuhay94 at gmail.com (Daniela Rubio) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:45:20 +0100 Subject: Help with garageband for IOS? In-Reply-To: <714E52231E464A23AB01B0EA5CE563A5@DD952WB1> References: <714E52231E464A23AB01B0EA5CE563A5@DD952WB1> Message-ID: Hello all! Is there someone who can help me a little beet to understand garageband for IOS? It is supposed to be accessible, but I can't work around it, even I know how to use garageband for mac. Any ideas or suggestions? Thank you very much for your help! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com From d.trethowan at me.com Tue Feb 28 09:43:20 2012 From: d.trethowan at me.com (Dane Trethowan) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:43:20 +1100 Subject: iPod Touch Message-ID: <7112BC1E-E1E1-476D-A55A-0B2AF60CF2D5@me.com> Hi! Ordered my iPod touch today, just curious to know whether the Touch has the GPS like the iPhone? I notice that "Maps" is part of the built-in Apps set and that got me wondering. From moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Feb 28 10:05:03 2012 From: moore.c at blueyonder.co.uk (Chris Moore) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:05:03 +0000 Subject: iPod Touch In-Reply-To: <7112BC1E-E1E1-476D-A55A-0B2AF60CF2D5@me.com> References: <7112BC1E-E1E1-476D-A55A-0B2AF60CF2D5@me.com> Message-ID: <86304DAD-7AFE-4DA8-928C-219E8D741192@blueyonder.co.uk> Hmmm I am waiting until after the 7th of March before I buy an iPod Touch. It has not been updated since September 2010. So I think a refresh is due. iPad mini anyone? On 28 Feb 2012, at 09:43, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Ordered my iPod touch today, just curious to know whether the Touch has the GPS like the iPhone? I notice that "Maps" is part of the built-in Apps set and that got me wondering. > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 10:20:29 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:20:29 +1100 Subject: couple more questions lol Message-ID: <36C6D876-1021-4481-B9FE-4B6D36EECE5F@gmail.com> HI. i have worked out that control option f gets me in to the search field where i can type in a file name to search for in a drive. My problem is, I'm not sure how to see the results? The other question i have is what do people use to edit html? Opened a web site i work on in text edit but couldn't see any html tags. thanks much. God Bless! Maria from australia Newbie mac user. bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com will get you fb as well as email & iImessage. skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl From gunn at tznet.com Tue Feb 28 10:45:15 2012 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 04:45:15 -0600 Subject: Removing items from LaunchPad Message-ID: <473AE596-25A7-4AFB-A8CD-D6D9E5A0DD47@tznet.com> Hello: Subject kind of says it but I need to add, using an early 2008 iMac, wired mouse and keyboard. So if anyone can point me in a direction how to remove an item, I would appreciate it. Take care, John From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 16:39:57 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:39:57 -0800 Subject: couple more questions lol In-Reply-To: <36C6D876-1021-4481-B9FE-4B6D36EECE5F@gmail.com> References: <36C6D876-1021-4481-B9FE-4B6D36EECE5F@gmail.com> Message-ID: I use text edit. Just go to prefs and then save and open tab and check, check Ignore rich text commands in HTML files check box. As for searching all you do is navigate to the table that will be there when the search is done. Take care. On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:20 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: > HI. i have worked out that control option f gets me in to the search field where i can type in a file name to search for in a drive. My problem is, I'm not sure how to see the results? > The other question i have is what do people use to edit html? Opened a web site i work on in text edit but couldn't see any html tags. > > thanks much. > > God Bless! Maria from australia > Newbie mac user. > bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com > will get you fb as well as email & iImessage. > skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl > > > > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Tue Feb 28 17:34:23 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:34:23 +0000 Subject: Status report Message-ID: <4F4D101F.70808@techno-chat.net> Hello all. Please can I ask, how do you get status report to refresh so as to show your new updates? I gave instructions to a friend on Facebook, but it's not working for her. Here is what I told her to do. 1. Double tap and hold on the first status. 2. When you hear the tri tone, swipe down. Is this correct? Thanks! From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Feb 28 17:53:30 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:53:30 -0400 Subject: SFT question. Message-ID: <773C83123FE84B678750CA2537043C16@CNIBnotebook> Hi Folks: I am unable to SFT to my Mac Mini Server. I can perform the task from behind my router; however, I cannot access the server from an external source. I have Port 22 open on the router. I do have the Mini's server software turned off; but I don't think that that would make a difference since, as I said, I can sftp from behind the router. Sorry if I'm not making myself clear. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 20:32:20 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:32:20 -0800 Subject: Use iTunes to rip audio from videos | Macworld Message-ID: <18D313E7-0163-4072-98DC-51858470C15B@gmail.com> this is a handy tip. Enjoy. http://www.macworld.com/article/165594/2012/02/use_itunes_to_rip_audio_from_videos.html#lsrc.rss_howto From GlennErvin at cableone.net Wed Feb 29 04:15:55 2012 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:15:55 -0600 Subject: iPod Touch References: <7112BC1E-E1E1-476D-A55A-0B2AF60CF2D5@me.com> Message-ID: The iPod touch has no GPS, but you can buy an iPod back that has a GPS and a battery and it only makes the iPod a little thicker. It will pair with the iPod via BlueTooth, and then your iPod will have GPS. I think they are around 100 dollars or less. I think one is the Mofy Juice pack with GPS. HTH. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:43 AM Subject: iPod Touch Hi! Ordered my iPod touch today, just curious to know whether the Touch has the GPS like the iPhone? I notice that "Maps" is part of the built-in Apps set and that got me wondering. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From weavermicha at googlemail.com Wed Feb 29 04:32:29 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 04:32:29 +0000 Subject: transfering dvds Message-ID: <4f4da672.0761b40a.5843.ffff8b5d@mx.google.com> when i insert a music cd into my macbook, i am prompted by i-tunes as to whether i want to import the cd i think. is there a way of doing this with dvds i have bought in order to get films and movies to the i-phone? From weavermicha at googlemail.com Wed Feb 29 06:40:59 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:40:59 +0000 Subject: something wrong in mac mail Message-ID: <4f4dc490.334cb40a.6f0a.ffff92f3@mx.google.com> i think i might know why my email keeps being moved in mail on my macbook only i can't seem to be able to resolve the problem. if i delete my account in mail and do a setup from scratch i end up with 12 mailboxes, one of them is a bulk mail folder which bt uses by default and i also seem to get 2 trash folders and there may be other repeated folders which i think might be confusing mail. if i try to delete some of the duplicate folders i get an imap error message and i am told that any of the repeated folders i try to remove can't be done so something is obviously going wrong. i have even tried to change the account type while running the mail setup and i have found no way to do this as i am wondering if the getting of my bt settings is causing the problem. i even tried deleting my i-cloud settings and re running mail setup but still the same 12 mailboxes with duplicate names. From bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com Wed Feb 29 15:27:14 2012 From: bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com (Maria Chapman) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 02:27:14 +1100 Subject: submitted an app to applevis just in case anyone is interested. Message-ID: <0D9A08A0-908F-45B9-B94C-2803B21A95E6@gmail.com> HI. Here is a link to a submission to applevis for a youtube to mp3 converter i found for the mac. http://www.applevis.com/mac-app-directory/entertainment/youtube-mp3 Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. Email/ I Message: &fb bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 bubbygirl1972 at gmail.com From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Wed Feb 29 15:30:32 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:30:32 +0000 Subject: submitted an app to applevis just in case anyone is interested. In-Reply-To: <0D9A08A0-908F-45B9-B94C-2803B21A95E6@gmail.com> References: <0D9A08A0-908F-45B9-B94C-2803B21A95E6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2495CCD8-62D8-415B-9185-7896399152A7@googlemail.com> Hi, thanks for this. Will have to try and take a look at this app. From juanitatighan at gmail.com Wed Feb 29 15:32:45 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:32:45 -0500 Subject: transfering dvds In-Reply-To: <4f4da672.0761b40a.5843.ffff8b5d@mx.google.com> References: <4f4da672.0761b40a.5843.ffff8b5d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <6EB9FF3E-6F2D-4E4E-B52B-E9A4687D6F4B@gmail.com> Grab Handbrake, and use that to rip a DVD. If the DVD has audio description, be sure to go to the audio tab and hit the "include all tracks" button. Jane On Feb 28, 2012, at 11:32 PM, michael weaver wrote: > when i insert a music cd into my macbook, i am prompted by i-tunes as to whether i want to import the cd i think. > is there a way of doing this with dvds i have bought in order to get films and movies to the i-phone? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris at mysticplace.info Wed Feb 29 16:20:51 2012 From: chris at mysticplace.info (Chris G) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:20:51 -0500 Subject: SFT question. In-Reply-To: <773C83123FE84B678750CA2537043C16@CNIBnotebook> References: <773C83123FE84B678750CA2537043C16@CNIBnotebook> Message-ID: <4F4E5063.4040907@mysticplace.info> Are you sure your ISP allows hosting servers? Some ISP's do not allow hosting servers on residential accounts and block the ports from incoming connections. You might need a business account in order to host servers. You do have the mac mini ip address reserved in the router? For example 192.168.1.115 always gets assigned to the Mac mini. your port 22 is port forwarding to port 22 of the mac mini's ip address? Also look in the settings for the ftp server for something called passive mode and see if that is enabled. That is an option that helps with ftp servers if they are behind routers. these are just some ideas. On 2/28/2012 12:53 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I am unable to SFT to my Mac Mini Server. I can perform the task from behind my router; however, I cannot access the server from an external source. I have Port 22 open on the router. > > I do have the Mini's server software turned off; but I don't think that that would make a difference since, as I said, I can sftp from behind the router. > > Sorry if I'm not making myself clear. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > -- Join the Mystic Place Community. http://www.mysticplacecommunity.info The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. http://www.mysticplace.info Mailing lists: http://lists.mysticplace.info From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Feb 29 18:14:57 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:14:57 -0400 Subject: SFT question. References: <773C83123FE84B678750CA2537043C16@CNIBnotebook> <4F4E5063.4040907@mysticplace.info> Message-ID: <26BC9CACCD914C3EA463F1A54EDD5FDD@CNIBnotebook> Hey Chris: Thanks for your response. I am able to run the Abyss WEB server and the Pure-FTPD server with no problem. According to our provider, they say that no ports are blocked. I assigned a static IP address to the Mini at: 192.168.2.5 as my router is at 192.168.2.1 and I port forwarded port 22 to 192.168.2.5. Again, thanks all over the place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris G" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:20 PM Subject: Re: SFT question. > Are you sure your ISP allows hosting servers? Some ISP's do not allow > hosting servers on residential accounts and block the ports from incoming > connections. > You might need a business account in order to host servers. > > You do have the mac mini ip address reserved in the router? For example > 192.168.1.115 always gets assigned to the Mac mini. your port 22 is port > forwarding to port 22 of the mac mini's ip address? > > Also look in the settings for the ftp server for something called passive > mode and see if that is enabled. That is an option that helps with ftp > servers if they are behind routers. > > > > these are just some ideas. > > On 2/28/2012 12:53 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> Hi Folks: >> >> I am unable to SFT to my Mac Mini Server. I can perform the task from >> behind my router; however, I cannot access the server from an external >> source. I have Port 22 open on the router. >> >> I do have the Mini's server software turned off; but I don't think that >> that would make a difference since, as I said, I can sftp from behind the >> router. >> >> Sorry if I'm not making myself clear. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > -- > Join the Mystic Place Community. > http://www.mysticplacecommunity.info > The home of the Mystic Place blog and podcast. > http://www.mysticplace.info > Mailing lists: > http://lists.mysticplace.info > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Wed Feb 29 23:16:55 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:16:55 -0400 Subject: Lion Server question. Message-ID: <83DAD87C76D7446B8FA70EAD0D491A22@MainComputer> Hi Gang: Is it just me, or is Lion Server short on accessibility. Anyway, has anyone had any difficulty setting up Lion's Mail server using Voiceover? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6926 (20120229) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com