From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 1 00:10:38 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:10:38 -0800 Subject: Facebook replacement app for iphone In-Reply-To: References: <2A874946-1043-4A69-B0C9-2B980978CB5A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6A62B43F-6318-45CA-BC01-71E4E6392ABB@gmail.com> lol. then you were reading my mind. My twitter is marrie1 for anyone who would like to follow me. I tweet a lot for those who want to follow. thanks for the facebook recomendation and my facebook username is also marrie for those that want to add me there. On Dec 31, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Ed Worrell wrote: > Actually no I don't have you on twitter, what is your screen name or hash tag? Mine is blindworrell > Ed > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Sun Jan 1 00:12:25 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:12:25 -0600 Subject: apple removing stuff from there product line In-Reply-To: <42581293-4393-421D-972B-0C2E62A39E50@gmail.com> References: <013201ccc48c$15f4ebe0$41dec3a0$@gmail.com><007501ccc553$33363610$99a2a230$@gmail.com><6CA4010E-1E1E-4EE2-8EF7-7DD277FB5248@gmail.com><84F0C749-78BD-4FD4-925F-2DF74DB158D2@gmail.com><886E2B37-118C-4AA2-8103-4ADB0AD94768@gmail.com> <007e01ccc78d$b068dc00$113a9400$@gmail.com> <936C51AE141446C48840605210D47D50@MQUAD> <007501ccc800$e96705e0$bc3511a0$@gmail.com> <42581293-4393-421D-972B-0C2E62A39E50@gmail.com> Message-ID: What? If there's not enough supply if there was an initial demand then prices should go up thus more incentive to make more. So the problem is not enough demand verses supply. On Dec 31, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Well supply and demand you know. If there is not enough supply there will not be enough demand for it. So even though i don't like the move it makes sense from a business point of view. > > Take care all > > > On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Bubba wrote: > >> It was on CBS news and they said they did not have the sells for it. That >> the I mac does what most people and users wanted and that was what was >> selling in the Desktop market for them the IMac and then the Mac mini as the >> low end affordable desktop! I don't necessary think they should as I can see >> where very high end people will need it but there is just not enough of >> them. See link below as well. >> >> http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=135078 >> >> >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty >> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:46 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >> >> Where did you hear they'd be getting rid of the pro? that's their power >> system, the mini and IMac don't have the space to use the components >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Bubba" >> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 2:27 >> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new Mac Book >> >>> HI, they got rid of the old Mac book and will be getting rid of the >>> Mac Pro I hear ! What is left as computers or will be left is the >>> desktop is IMac and Mac mini, As laptops or note books is the Mac Book >>> Pro in 13, 15 and >>> 17 >>> inch models, then there is their line of netbooks which is the Mac >>> Book Air which comes in 11 and 13 inch model. Now as of now they still >>> have the Mac Pro desktop listed on their site! Also check out there >>> refurbish models on their site which you might find the Mac Book as >>> well! HTH >>> >>> >>> Bubba >>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 6:36 PM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>> >>> Ok. so they git rid of one model of macbook can't remember wich and >>> one model of mac pro. so what's left for this person to choose from? >>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Bubba wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, it is the Imac! But pretty soon I understand the only desktop >>>> that will be able to buy from Apple is the Mac Mini or Imac as they >>>> are no longer going to make the Mac Pro desktop. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sign, >>>> Bubba >>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>> >>>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything >>>> is in teh moniter. Is that the IMac? >>>> >>>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. >>>> I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like I do back >>>> and forth across campus, an air might be for you On Dec 29, 2011, at >>>> 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote: >>>> >>>>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug. >>>>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I >>>>> had >>>> heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what >>>> you are saying was true, but not anymore. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" >>>> >>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM >>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is a >>>> monitor >>>>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I >>>>>> have >>>> seen >>>>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused >>>>>> adaptor plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand >>>>>> experience of >>>> this >>>>>> though so I cannot swear to it. >>>>>> >>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>> Alawami >>>>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07 >>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't you now need a monitor to run a mac mini? I've heard that's >>>>>> now >>>> the >>>>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have >>>>>> everything in the monitor including usb and mic jacks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care. >>>>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac but >>>>>>> very good space saving desktop! JST ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane >>>>>>> Bomar >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM >>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I would >>>>>>> suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need a >>>>>>> screen, or like having more than one monitor. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM >>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the >>>>>>>> MacBook Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop >>>>>>>> replacement then look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If >>>>>>>> wanting something very light and portable but not as powerful >>>>>>>> look at the Mac book air 13 inch model. JMT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike >>>>>>>> Welty >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM >>>>>>>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hey all, >>>>>>>> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering >>>>>>>> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I >>>>>>>> want faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on >>>>>>>> what route I should go. 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>> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sun Jan 1 00:13:34 2012 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 00:13:34 +0000 Subject: Happy Mac new year! Message-ID: <9803EDD4-C4F9-41CF-A324-C5564EF8495E@virginmedia.com> Hi all! Well its officially new year here! So I wish you all a very happy new year and it goes great for you all! And the Mac has one too! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sun Jan 1 00:25:24 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 11:25:24 +1100 Subject: mp3 taggginh in itunes In-Reply-To: <7904403C-DC59-4FA4-9CAF-CEBD257630B3@gmail.com> References: <159396B0-9CDA-4878-ACA3-79FA6D5958BA@bluebottle.com> <7904403C-DC59-4FA4-9CAF-CEBD257630B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <360A69CF-9907-4C75-972F-4D942E205113@bluebottle.com> ok cool thanks its a shame as they are movies but with audio discription On 01/01/2012, at 4:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No I don't think it will show up there. Only mp4 movies will show up in movies. > > Take care. > On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:33 PM, krystal watson wrote: > >> ok so i tag a file in itunes but why does it not show up in movies though i have set it to a movie tag in itunes do i need to consoladate my music after i retag files so they go where there ment to go? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 1 00:26:06 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:26:06 -0800 Subject: mp3 taggginh in itunes In-Reply-To: <360A69CF-9907-4C75-972F-4D942E205113@bluebottle.com> References: <159396B0-9CDA-4878-ACA3-79FA6D5958BA@bluebottle.com> <7904403C-DC59-4FA4-9CAF-CEBD257630B3@gmail.com> <360A69CF-9907-4C75-972F-4D942E205113@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <3ABE0321-4D39-4BD3-BC6B-77BE429F58CA@gmail.com> You could try and paste it in the movies playist and consolidate your files. just be sure you have a copy in case something goes wrong. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 31, 2011, at 4:25 PM, krystal watson wrote: > ok cool thanks its a shame as they are movies but with audio discription > On 01/01/2012, at 4:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No I don't think it will show up there. Only mp4 movies will show up in movies. >> >> Take care. >> On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:33 PM, krystal watson wrote: >> >>> ok so i tag a file in itunes but why does it not show up in movies though i have set it to a movie tag in itunes do i need to consoladate my music after i retag files so they go where there ment to go? >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sun Jan 1 00:31:11 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 11:31:11 +1100 Subject: mp3 taggginh in itunes In-Reply-To: <3ABE0321-4D39-4BD3-BC6B-77BE429F58CA@gmail.com> References: <159396B0-9CDA-4878-ACA3-79FA6D5958BA@bluebottle.com> <7904403C-DC59-4FA4-9CAF-CEBD257630B3@gmail.com> <360A69CF-9907-4C75-972F-4D942E205113@bluebottle.com> <3ABE0321-4D39-4BD3-BC6B-77BE429F58CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2AC28E92-3E40-4768-8502-298FCE27F768@bluebottle.com> so do i do that with in itunes or with in my directory where all my music is On 01/01/2012, at 11:26 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You could try and paste it in the movies playist and consolidate your files. just be sure you have a copy in case something goes wrong. > > Take care. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Dec 31, 2011, at 4:25 PM, krystal watson wrote: > >> ok cool thanks its a shame as they are movies but with audio discription >> On 01/01/2012, at 4:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> No I don't think it will show up there. Only mp4 movies will show up in movies. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:33 PM, krystal watson wrote: >>> >>>> ok so i tag a file in itunes but why does it not show up in movies though i have set it to a movie tag in itunes do i need to consoladate my music after i retag files so they go where there ment to go? >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Jan 1 00:40:01 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 19:40:01 -0500 Subject: apple removing stuff from their product line Message-ID: <002101ccc81d$e6c70070$b4550150$@gmail.com> I understand that the problem is that there is not enough demand for them it is not a supply problem . Have plenty of them they just not selling! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:12 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: apple removing stuff from there product line What? If there's not enough supply if there was an initial demand then prices should go up thus more incentive to make more. So the problem is not enough demand verses supply. On Dec 31, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Well supply and demand you know. If there is not enough supply there will not be enough demand for it. So even though i don't like the move it makes sense from a business point of view. > > Take care all > > > On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Bubba wrote: > >> It was on CBS news and they said they did not have the sells for it. >> That the I mac does what most people and users wanted and that was >> what was selling in the Desktop market for them the IMac and then the >> Mac mini as the low end affordable desktop! I don't necessary think >> they should as I can see where very high end people will need it but >> there is just not enough of them. See link below as well. >> >> http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=135078 >> >> >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty >> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:46 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >> >> Where did you hear they'd be getting rid of the pro? that's their >> power system, the mini and IMac don't have the space to use the >> components >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Bubba" >> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 2:27 >> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new Mac Book >> >>> HI, they got rid of the old Mac book and will be getting rid of the >>> Mac Pro I hear ! What is left as computers or will be left is the >>> desktop is IMac and Mac mini, As laptops or note books is the Mac >>> Book Pro in 13, 15 and >>> 17 >>> inch models, then there is their line of netbooks which is the Mac >>> Book Air which comes in 11 and 13 inch model. Now as of now they >>> still have the Mac Pro desktop listed on their site! Also check out >>> there refurbish models on their site which you might find the Mac >>> Book as well! HTH >>> >>> >>> Bubba >>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>> Alawami >>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 6:36 PM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>> >>> Ok. so they git rid of one model of macbook can't remember wich and >>> one model of mac pro. so what's left for this person to choose from? >>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Bubba wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, it is the Imac! But pretty soon I understand the only desktop >>>> that will be able to buy from Apple is the Mac Mini or Imac as they >>>> are no longer going to make the Mac Pro desktop. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sign, >>>> Bubba >>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>> Alawami >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>> >>>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything >>>> is in teh moniter. Is that the IMac? >>>> >>>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. >>>> I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like I do >>>> back and forth across campus, an air might be for you On Dec 29, >>>> 2011, at >>>> 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote: >>>> >>>>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug. >>>>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I >>>>> had >>>> heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what >>>> you are saying was true, but not anymore. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" >>>> >>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM >>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is >>>>>> a >>>> monitor >>>>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I >>>>>> have >>>> seen >>>>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused >>>>>> adaptor plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand >>>>>> experience of >>>> this >>>>>> though so I cannot swear to it. >>>>>> >>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>> Alawami >>>>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07 >>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't you now need a monitor to run a mac mini? I've heard >>>>>> that's now >>>> the >>>>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have >>>>>> everything in the monitor including usb and mic jacks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care. >>>>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac >>>>>>> but very good space saving desktop! JST ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane >>>>>>> Bomar >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM >>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I >>>>>>> would suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need >>>>>>> a screen, or like having more than one monitor. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM >>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the >>>>>>>> MacBook Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop >>>>>>>> replacement then look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If >>>>>>>> wanting something very light and portable but not as powerful >>>>>>>> look at the Mac book air 13 inch model. JMT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike >>>>>>>> Welty >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM >>>>>>>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hey all, >>>>>>>> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering >>>>>>>> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I >>>>>>>> want faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on >>>>>>>> what route I should go. 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Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Sun Jan 1 00:48:29 2012 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 00:48:29 +0000 Subject: mp3 taggginh in itunes In-Reply-To: <2AC28E92-3E40-4768-8502-298FCE27F768@bluebottle.com> References: <159396B0-9CDA-4878-ACA3-79FA6D5958BA@bluebottle.com> <7904403C-DC59-4FA4-9CAF-CEBD257630B3@gmail.com> <360A69CF-9907-4C75-972F-4D942E205113@bluebottle.com> <3ABE0321-4D39-4BD3-BC6B-77BE429F58CA@gmail.com> <2AC28E92-3E40-4768-8502-298FCE27F768@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: Hi there! Could you try when sitting on it in Itunes open vo+shift+m and see if you got make AAC version! This is MP4! That might do it for you!! ColinIf ACC version is not there and MP3 is you can change that in Itunes pref's1 From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sun Jan 1 00:57:26 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 11:57:26 +1100 Subject: mp3 taggginh in itunes In-Reply-To: References: <159396B0-9CDA-4878-ACA3-79FA6D5958BA@bluebottle.com> <7904403C-DC59-4FA4-9CAF-CEBD257630B3@gmail.com> <360A69CF-9907-4C75-972F-4D942E205113@bluebottle.com> <3ABE0321-4D39-4BD3-BC6B-77BE429F58CA@gmail.com> <2AC28E92-3E40-4768-8502-298FCE27F768@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <54A3CC93-F513-403F-8FDC-F34175DCAFFF@bluebottle.com> i don't see that in that menu sorry On 01/01/2012, at 11:48 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi there! > Could you try when sitting on it in Itunes open vo+shift+m and see if you got make AAC version! > This is MP4! > That might do it for you!! > ColinIf ACC version is not there and MP3 is you can change that in Itunes pref's1 > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 1 00:53:03 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:53:03 -0800 Subject: mp3 taggginh in itunes In-Reply-To: References: <159396B0-9CDA-4878-ACA3-79FA6D5958BA@bluebottle.com> <7904403C-DC59-4FA4-9CAF-CEBD257630B3@gmail.com> <360A69CF-9907-4C75-972F-4D942E205113@bluebottle.com> <3ABE0321-4D39-4BD3-BC6B-77BE429F58CA@gmail.com> <2AC28E92-3E40-4768-8502-298FCE27F768@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <0849C333-4759-4880-8EB7-F59D9C2806C8@gmail.com> No AAC is actually m4a not mp4. mp4 is for movies I think and m4a is a glorified version of ogg. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Dec 31, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi there! > Could you try when sitting on it in ITunes open vo+shift+m and see if you got make AAC version! > This is MP4! > That might do it for you!! > ColinIf ACC version is not there and MP3 is you can change that in ITunes pref's1 > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From david.mclean at cox.net Sun Jan 1 01:43:24 2012 From: david.mclean at cox.net (David McLean) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:43:24 -0500 Subject: apple removing stuff from their product line In-Reply-To: <002101ccc81d$e6c70070$b4550150$@gmail.com> References: <002101ccc81d$e6c70070$b4550150$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <57B137B4-C1EF-4241-B6C7-C55C5566F5FD@cox.net> Is this official? I've seen rumors that the Macpro wouldn't be updated but nothing official from Apple. On Dec 31, 2011, at 7:40 PM, Bubba wrote: > I understand that the problem is that there is not enough demand for them it > is not a supply problem . Have plenty of them they just not selling! > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:12 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: apple removing stuff from there product line > > What? If there's not enough supply if there was an initial demand then > prices should go up thus more incentive to make more. So the problem is not > enough demand verses supply. > > > On Dec 31, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Well supply and demand you know. If there is not enough supply there will > not be enough demand for it. So even though i don't like the move it makes > sense from a business point of view. >> >> Take care all >> >> >> On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Bubba wrote: >> >>> It was on CBS news and they said they did not have the sells for it. >>> That the I mac does what most people and users wanted and that was >>> what was selling in the Desktop market for them the IMac and then the >>> Mac mini as the low end affordable desktop! I don't necessary think >>> they should as I can see where very high end people will need it but >>> there is just not enough of them. See link below as well. >>> >>> http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=135078 >>> >>> >>> Bubba >>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty >>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:46 AM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>> >>> Where did you hear they'd be getting rid of the pro? that's their >>> power system, the mini and IMac don't have the space to use the >>> components >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Bubba" >>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 2:27 >>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>> >>>> HI, they got rid of the old Mac book and will be getting rid of the >>>> Mac Pro I hear ! What is left as computers or will be left is the >>>> desktop is IMac and Mac mini, As laptops or note books is the Mac >>>> Book Pro in 13, 15 and >>>> 17 >>>> inch models, then there is their line of netbooks which is the Mac >>>> Book Air which comes in 11 and 13 inch model. Now as of now they >>>> still have the Mac Pro desktop listed on their site! Also check out >>>> there refurbish models on their site which you might find the Mac >>>> Book as well! HTH >>>> >>>> >>>> Bubba >>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>> Alawami >>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 6:36 PM >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>>> >>>> Ok. so they git rid of one model of macbook can't remember wich and >>>> one model of mac pro. so what's left for this person to choose from? >>>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, it is the Imac! But pretty soon I understand the only desktop >>>>> that will be able to buy from Apple is the Mac Mini or Imac as they >>>>> are no longer going to make the Mac Pro desktop. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sign, >>>>> Bubba >>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>> Alawami >>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM >>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>> >>>>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything >>>>> is in teh moniter. Is that the IMac? >>>>> >>>>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. >>>>> I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like I do >>>>> back and forth across campus, an air might be for you On Dec 29, >>>>> 2011, at >>>>> 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug. >>>>>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I >>>>>> had >>>>> heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what >>>>> you are saying was true, but not anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" >>>>> >>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM >>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is >>>>>>> a >>>>> monitor >>>>>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I >>>>>>> have >>>>> seen >>>>>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused >>>>>>> adaptor plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand >>>>>>> experience of >>>>> this >>>>>>> though so I cannot swear to it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>>> Alawami >>>>>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07 >>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't you now need a monitor to run a mac mini? I've heard >>>>>>> that's now >>>>> the >>>>>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have >>>>>>> everything in the monitor including usb and mic jacks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac >>>>>>>> but very good space saving desktop! JST ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane >>>>>>>> Bomar >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM >>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I >>>>>>>> would suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need >>>>>>>> a screen, or like having more than one monitor. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the >>>>>>>>> MacBook Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop >>>>>>>>> replacement then look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If >>>>>>>>> wanting something very light and portable but not as powerful >>>>>>>>> look at the Mac book air 13 inch model. JMT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike >>>>>>>>> Welty >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM >>>>>>>>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hey all, >>>>>>>>> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering >>>>>>>>> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I >>>>>>>>> want faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on >>>>>>>>> what route I should go. 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>> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From widgie77 at tpg.com.au Sun Jan 1 02:56:12 2012 From: widgie77 at tpg.com.au (Nicki Muir) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 10:56:12 +0800 Subject: Whatsapp Messenger In-Reply-To: <3575DF51-4D9F-4DB6-845D-EE9A44DFB0ED@gmail.com> References: <4EFEEC46.1010101@techno-chat.net> <3575DF51-4D9F-4DB6-845D-EE9A44DFB0ED@gmail.com> Message-ID: I love that app too, use it all the time to talk to friends in germany, it's great because it works across several platforms not just apple. On 01/01/2012, at 1:50 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I love that app and use it to communicate to my over seas family of which I have many. The quality of the messages is wonderful. > On Dec 31, 2011, at 3:04 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> I thought I would share with you this fantastic and fully accessible app to send and receive unlimited messages from other Whatsapp users. The app, called Whatsapp Messenger, is 69p in the apps store and it is spelt w h a t s a p p, with the w in whats and a in app capitalized. When setting up the app, be sure to allow both push notifications and access to your address book. Next, enter your phone number and double tap done. You will then be confirmed that the number you entered is correct. If so double tap yes. If not double tap edit. Next you will be prompted for a name that is used for push notifications only. It will be whatever you called your iPhone, for example Chris's iPhone. Either leave the field as it is, or double tap clear text and type a new name. Double tap save when done. >> Enjoy! >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From widgie77 at tpg.com.au Sun Jan 1 02:59:35 2012 From: widgie77 at tpg.com.au (Nicki Muir) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 10:59:35 +0800 Subject: Facebook replacement app for iphone In-Reply-To: <2A874946-1043-4A69-B0C9-2B980978CB5A@yahoo.com> References: <2A874946-1043-4A69-B0C9-2B980978CB5A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <888BFA26-5564-45ED-898F-ABD1614E21D6@tpg.com.au> there is also focus which is another really accessible Facebook app. it can be found in any app store cause I'm in australia and I know friends who live in several places that use it. take care Nicki On 01/01/2012, at 3:21 AM, Ed Worrell wrote: > Hello listers, I have found a really great app to replace the Facebook crap of an app. The app is called Facedekk it is made by Taknology, you can search for either of these and find it in the app store. I don't know if it is in all the app stores I live in the United States. It is a great app the developers have made it fully accessible with VO, not sure if this was intentional but it is great anyway, It does everything the Facebook app is supposed to do. The only thing that I have found that doesn't work is the settings section of the app, I did send a email to the developer to see if they would fix this issue, and to see if they would add push notifications to the app. The app even uses the Vo gestures to back to the previous page which I missed greatly on the Facebook app. It is a all around well done app. There is two versions of the app one that is $.99 and that is free, I have purchesed the paid version. > > Enjoy, > Ed > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From widgie77 at tpg.com.au Sun Jan 1 03:09:23 2012 From: widgie77 at tpg.com.au (Nicki Muir) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 11:09:23 +0800 Subject: apple removing stuff from their product line In-Reply-To: <002101ccc81d$e6c70070$b4550150$@gmail.com> References: <002101ccc81d$e6c70070$b4550150$@gmail.com> Message-ID: the other thing people have got to remember is if you ask most people these days what they want out of a computer the answer usually is portability. I don't own any desktops anymore the only things I have here are a macbook pro, a iPad and an iPhone. for me as just a normal home user that regularly goes on the move thats all I need. take care Nicki On 01/01/2012, at 8:40 AM, Bubba wrote: > I understand that the problem is that there is not enough demand for them it > is not a supply problem . Have plenty of them they just not selling! > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:12 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: apple removing stuff from there product line > > What? If there's not enough supply if there was an initial demand then > prices should go up thus more incentive to make more. So the problem is not > enough demand verses supply. > > > On Dec 31, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Well supply and demand you know. If there is not enough supply there will > not be enough demand for it. So even though i don't like the move it makes > sense from a business point of view. >> >> Take care all >> >> >> On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Bubba wrote: >> >>> It was on CBS news and they said they did not have the sells for it. >>> That the I mac does what most people and users wanted and that was >>> what was selling in the Desktop market for them the IMac and then the >>> Mac mini as the low end affordable desktop! I don't necessary think >>> they should as I can see where very high end people will need it but >>> there is just not enough of them. See link below as well. >>> >>> http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=135078 >>> >>> >>> Bubba >>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty >>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:46 AM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>> >>> Where did you hear they'd be getting rid of the pro? that's their >>> power system, the mini and IMac don't have the space to use the >>> components >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Bubba" >>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 2:27 >>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>> >>>> HI, they got rid of the old Mac book and will be getting rid of the >>>> Mac Pro I hear ! What is left as computers or will be left is the >>>> desktop is IMac and Mac mini, As laptops or note books is the Mac >>>> Book Pro in 13, 15 and >>>> 17 >>>> inch models, then there is their line of netbooks which is the Mac >>>> Book Air which comes in 11 and 13 inch model. Now as of now they >>>> still have the Mac Pro desktop listed on their site! Also check out >>>> there refurbish models on their site which you might find the Mac >>>> Book as well! HTH >>>> >>>> >>>> Bubba >>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>> Alawami >>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 6:36 PM >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>>> >>>> Ok. so they git rid of one model of macbook can't remember wich and >>>> one model of mac pro. so what's left for this person to choose from? >>>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, it is the Imac! But pretty soon I understand the only desktop >>>>> that will be able to buy from Apple is the Mac Mini or Imac as they >>>>> are no longer going to make the Mac Pro desktop. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sign, >>>>> Bubba >>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>> Alawami >>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM >>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>> >>>>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything >>>>> is in teh moniter. Is that the IMac? >>>>> >>>>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. >>>>> I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like I do >>>>> back and forth across campus, an air might be for you On Dec 29, >>>>> 2011, at >>>>> 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug. >>>>>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I >>>>>> had >>>>> heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what >>>>> you are saying was true, but not anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" >>>>> >>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM >>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is >>>>>>> a >>>>> monitor >>>>>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I >>>>>>> have >>>>> seen >>>>>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused >>>>>>> adaptor plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand >>>>>>> experience of >>>>> this >>>>>>> though so I cannot swear to it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>>> Alawami >>>>>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07 >>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't you now need a monitor to run a mac mini? I've heard >>>>>>> that's now >>>>> the >>>>>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have >>>>>>> everything in the monitor including usb and mic jacks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac >>>>>>>> but very good space saving desktop! JST ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane >>>>>>>> Bomar >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM >>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I >>>>>>>> would suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need >>>>>>>> a screen, or like having more than one monitor. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the >>>>>>>>> MacBook Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop >>>>>>>>> replacement then look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If >>>>>>>>> wanting something very light and portable but not as powerful >>>>>>>>> look at the Mac book air 13 inch model. JMT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike >>>>>>>>> Welty >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM >>>>>>>>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hey all, >>>>>>>>> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering >>>>>>>>> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I >>>>>>>>> want faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on >>>>>>>>> what route I should go. Any suggestions as to what MacBook >>>>>>>>> model you'd suggest, and the reasons for the suggestion, would be > great. >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> .x >>>>>>>>> m >>>>>>>>> l> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>>>>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically >>>>>>>>> by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> .x >>>>>>>>> m >>>>>>>>> l> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>>>>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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>> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From blindworrell at yahoo.com Sun Jan 1 03:07:13 2012 From: blindworrell at yahoo.com (Ed Worrell) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:07:13 -0700 Subject: Facebook replacement app for iphone In-Reply-To: <888BFA26-5564-45ED-898F-ABD1614E21D6@tpg.com.au> References: <2A874946-1043-4A69-B0C9-2B980978CB5A@yahoo.com> <888BFA26-5564-45ED-898F-ABD1614E21D6@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Yes I have this one too, I just don't like that it doesn't tell you Notifications in a clear way, the interface is a little weird, the app works well though. I don like that it is completely accessible with VO, I just wanted to show that there was another alternative out there. I feel that I miss a lot of things with Focus, still a good app alternitive to the clunky Facebook app, they just don't have a clue do they. Ed From widgie77 at tpg.com.au Sun Jan 1 03:16:30 2012 From: widgie77 at tpg.com.au (Nicki Muir) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 11:16:30 +0800 Subject: Facebook replacement app for iphone In-Reply-To: References: <2A874946-1043-4A69-B0C9-2B980978CB5A@yahoo.com> <888BFA26-5564-45ED-898F-ABD1614E21D6@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: I don't think Facebook has ever had a clue, not even with windows machines. On 01/01/2012, at 11:07 AM, Ed Worrell wrote: > Yes I have this one too, I just don't like that it doesn't tell you Notifications in a clear way, the interface is a little weird, the app works well though. I don like that it is completely accessible with VO, I just wanted to show that there was another alternative out there. I feel that I miss a lot of things with Focus, still a good app alternitive to the clunky Facebook app, they just don't have a clue do they. > > Ed > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Sun Jan 1 03:22:09 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:22:09 -0600 Subject: apple removing stuff from their product line In-Reply-To: References: <002101ccc81d$e6c70070$b4550150$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Umm, well when we bough our last one it is a desktop. Have to spend the money, might as well get something that should last a long time. Our previous desktop is 9 years old and still running across the room from me, unfortunately it's a power pc so it will never evolve out of Tiger, but it's still working. The i-phone can work when mobil, have cheap Windows laptop here too but rarely use it. On Dec 31, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Nicki Muir wrote: > the other thing people have got to remember is if you ask most people these days what they want out of a computer the answer usually is portability. I don't own any desktops anymore the only things I have here are a macbook pro, a iPad and an iPhone. for me as just a normal home user that regularly goes on the move thats all I need. > > take care > Nicki > > On 01/01/2012, at 8:40 AM, Bubba wrote: > >> I understand that the problem is that there is not enough demand for them it >> is not a supply problem . Have plenty of them they just not selling! >> >> >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:12 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: apple removing stuff from there product line >> >> What? If there's not enough supply if there was an initial demand then >> prices should go up thus more incentive to make more. So the problem is not >> enough demand verses supply. >> >> >> On Dec 31, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Well supply and demand you know. If there is not enough supply there will >> not be enough demand for it. So even though i don't like the move it makes >> sense from a business point of view. >>> >>> Take care all >>> >>> >>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Bubba wrote: >>> >>>> It was on CBS news and they said they did not have the sells for it. >>>> That the I mac does what most people and users wanted and that was >>>> what was selling in the Desktop market for them the IMac and then the >>>> Mac mini as the low end affordable desktop! I don't necessary think >>>> they should as I can see where very high end people will need it but >>>> there is just not enough of them. See link below as well. >>>> >>>> http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=135078 >>>> >>>> >>>> Bubba >>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:46 AM >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>>> >>>> Where did you hear they'd be getting rid of the pro? that's their >>>> power system, the mini and IMac don't have the space to use the >>>> components >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Bubba" >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 2:27 >>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>>> >>>>> HI, they got rid of the old Mac book and will be getting rid of the >>>>> Mac Pro I hear ! What is left as computers or will be left is the >>>>> desktop is IMac and Mac mini, As laptops or note books is the Mac >>>>> Book Pro in 13, 15 and >>>>> 17 >>>>> inch models, then there is their line of netbooks which is the Mac >>>>> Book Air which comes in 11 and 13 inch model. Now as of now they >>>>> still have the Mac Pro desktop listed on their site! Also check out >>>>> there refurbish models on their site which you might find the Mac >>>>> Book as well! HTH >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bubba >>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>> Alawami >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 6:36 PM >>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>>>> >>>>> Ok. so they git rid of one model of macbook can't remember wich and >>>>> one model of mac pro. so what's left for this person to choose from? >>>>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, it is the Imac! But pretty soon I understand the only desktop >>>>>> that will be able to buy from Apple is the Mac Mini or Imac as they >>>>>> are no longer going to make the Mac Pro desktop. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sign, >>>>>> Bubba >>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>> Alawami >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM >>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>> >>>>>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything >>>>>> is in teh moniter. Is that the IMac? >>>>>> >>>>>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. >>>>>> I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like I do >>>>>> back and forth across campus, an air might be for you On Dec 29, >>>>>> 2011, at >>>>>> 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug. >>>>>>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I >>>>>>> had >>>>>> heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what >>>>>> you are saying was true, but not anymore. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" >>>>>> >>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM >>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is >>>>>>>> a >>>>>> monitor >>>>>>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I >>>>>>>> have >>>>>> seen >>>>>>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused >>>>>>>> adaptor plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand >>>>>>>> experience of >>>>>> this >>>>>>>> though so I cannot swear to it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>>>> Alawami >>>>>>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07 >>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't you now need a monitor to run a mac mini? I've heard >>>>>>>> that's now >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have >>>>>>>> everything in the monitor including usb and mic jacks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac >>>>>>>>> but very good space saving desktop! JST ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane >>>>>>>>> Bomar >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM >>>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I >>>>>>>>> would suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need >>>>>>>>> a screen, or like having more than one monitor. >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the >>>>>>>>>> MacBook Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop >>>>>>>>>> replacement then look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If >>>>>>>>>> wanting something very light and portable but not as powerful >>>>>>>>>> look at the Mac book air 13 inch model. JMT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike >>>>>>>>>> Welty >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> hey all, >>>>>>>>>> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering >>>>>>>>>> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I >>>>>>>>>> want faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on >>>>>>>>>> what route I should go. 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>> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From widgie77 at tpg.com.au Sun Jan 1 03:27:29 2012 From: widgie77 at tpg.com.au (Nicki Muir) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 11:27:29 +0800 Subject: apple removing stuff from their product line In-Reply-To: References: <002101ccc81d$e6c70070$b4550150$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9B99D8B8-4947-4797-B43E-13E975E7BDC0@tpg.com.au> nice that you got a mac desktop that has lasted that long! I still have a cheap windows netbook here, but haven't turned it on for the last 3 months at least. the only time I do is if friends who are still using windows want to play windows type games. On 01/01/2012, at 11:22 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: > Umm, well when we bough our last one it is a desktop. Have to spend the money, might as well get something that should last a long time. Our previous desktop is 9 years old and still running across the room from me, unfortunately it's a power pc so it will never evolve out of Tiger, but it's still working. The i-phone can work when mobil, have cheap Windows laptop here too but rarely use it. > > On Dec 31, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Nicki Muir wrote: > >> the other thing people have got to remember is if you ask most people these days what they want out of a computer the answer usually is portability. I don't own any desktops anymore the only things I have here are a macbook pro, a iPad and an iPhone. for me as just a normal home user that regularly goes on the move thats all I need. >> >> take care >> Nicki >> >> On 01/01/2012, at 8:40 AM, Bubba wrote: >> >>> I understand that the problem is that there is not enough demand for them it >>> is not a supply problem . Have plenty of them they just not selling! >>> >>> >>> Bubba >>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:12 PM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: apple removing stuff from there product line >>> >>> What? If there's not enough supply if there was an initial demand then >>> prices should go up thus more incentive to make more. So the problem is not >>> enough demand verses supply. >>> >>> >>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Well supply and demand you know. If there is not enough supply there will >>> not be enough demand for it. So even though i don't like the move it makes >>> sense from a business point of view. >>>> >>>> Take care all >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Bubba wrote: >>>> >>>>> It was on CBS news and they said they did not have the sells for it. >>>>> That the I mac does what most people and users wanted and that was >>>>> what was selling in the Desktop market for them the IMac and then the >>>>> Mac mini as the low end affordable desktop! I don't necessary think >>>>> they should as I can see where very high end people will need it but >>>>> there is just not enough of them. See link below as well. >>>>> >>>>> http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=135078 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bubba >>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:46 AM >>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>>>> >>>>> Where did you hear they'd be getting rid of the pro? that's their >>>>> power system, the mini and IMac don't have the space to use the >>>>> components >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 2:27 >>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>>>> >>>>>> HI, they got rid of the old Mac book and will be getting rid of the >>>>>> Mac Pro I hear ! What is left as computers or will be left is the >>>>>> desktop is IMac and Mac mini, As laptops or note books is the Mac >>>>>> Book Pro in 13, 15 and >>>>>> 17 >>>>>> inch models, then there is their line of netbooks which is the Mac >>>>>> Book Air which comes in 11 and 13 inch model. Now as of now they >>>>>> still have the Mac Pro desktop listed on their site! Also check out >>>>>> there refurbish models on their site which you might find the Mac >>>>>> Book as well! HTH >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bubba >>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>> Alawami >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 6:36 PM >>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok. so they git rid of one model of macbook can't remember wich and >>>>>> one model of mac pro. so what's left for this person to choose from? >>>>>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, it is the Imac! But pretty soon I understand the only desktop >>>>>>> that will be able to buy from Apple is the Mac Mini or Imac as they >>>>>>> are no longer going to make the Mac Pro desktop. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sign, >>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>>> Alawami >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM >>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything >>>>>>> is in teh moniter. Is that the IMac? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. >>>>>>> I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like I do >>>>>>> back and forth across campus, an air might be for you On Dec 29, >>>>>>> 2011, at >>>>>>> 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug. >>>>>>>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I >>>>>>>> had >>>>>>> heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what >>>>>>> you are saying was true, but not anymore. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>> monitor >>>>>>>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>> seen >>>>>>>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused >>>>>>>>> adaptor plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand >>>>>>>>> experience of >>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> though so I cannot swear to it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>>>>> Alawami >>>>>>>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07 >>>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Don't you now need a monitor to run a mac mini? I've heard >>>>>>>>> that's now >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have >>>>>>>>> everything in the monitor including usb and mic jacks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac >>>>>>>>>> but very good space saving desktop! JST ! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane >>>>>>>>>> Bomar >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I >>>>>>>>>> would suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need >>>>>>>>>> a screen, or like having more than one monitor. >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the >>>>>>>>>>> MacBook Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop >>>>>>>>>>> replacement then look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If >>>>>>>>>>> wanting something very light and portable but not as powerful >>>>>>>>>>> look at the Mac book air 13 inch model. JMT >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike >>>>>>>>>>> Welty >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM >>>>>>>>>>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> hey all, >>>>>>>>>>> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering >>>>>>>>>>> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I >>>>>>>>>>> want faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on >>>>>>>>>>> what route I should go. 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>>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sun Jan 1 03:35:13 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 14:35:13 +1100 Subject: mp3 taggginh in itunes In-Reply-To: References: <159396B0-9CDA-4878-ACA3-79FA6D5958BA@bluebottle.com> <7904403C-DC59-4FA4-9CAF-CEBD257630B3@gmail.com> <360A69CF-9907-4C75-972F-4D942E205113@bluebottle.com> <3ABE0321-4D39-4BD3-BC6B-77BE429F58CA@gmail.com> <2AC28E92-3E40-4768-8502-298FCE27F768@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: i did that i mean i moved them and it put them back in unknown artest even though they are tagged as movies sad smiley face thanks for trying to help On 01/01/2012, at 11:48 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi there! > Could you try when sitting on it in Itunes open vo+shift+m and see if you got make AAC version! > This is MP4! > That might do it for you!! > ColinIf ACC version is not there and MP3 is you can change that in Itunes pref's1 > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Jan 1 05:30:51 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 05:30:51 +0000 Subject: Whatsapp Messenger In-Reply-To: <4EFEEC46.1010101@techno-chat.net> References: <4EFEEC46.1010101@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <1A318DD3-5E59-4428-A630-F0C4F6F5CF39@googlemail.com> Hi Chris, I have the app now. Got it while i was down stairs with my family who we have visiting smiley. Ian McNamara From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Jan 1 07:09:16 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:09:16 +0000 Subject: Facebook replacement app for iphone In-Reply-To: <2A874946-1043-4A69-B0C9-2B980978CB5A@yahoo.com> References: <2A874946-1043-4A69-B0C9-2B980978CB5A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi ed, thanks for this mate. Will take a look at this app later today smiley. Ian McNamara From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Jan 1 08:04:55 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 08:04:55 +0000 Subject: Facebook replacement app for iphone In-Reply-To: References: <2A874946-1043-4A69-B0C9-2B980978CB5A@yahoo.com> <888BFA26-5564-45ED-898F-ABD1614E21D6@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Hello what can this other app do in full i don't mean focus i mean the other one. From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Sun Jan 1 10:06:22 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 04:06:22 -0600 Subject: apple removing stuff from their product line In-Reply-To: <9B99D8B8-4947-4797-B43E-13E975E7BDC0@tpg.com.au> References: <002101ccc81d$e6c70070$b4550150$@gmail.com> <9B99D8B8-4947-4797-B43E-13E975E7BDC0@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: That's about all I do with mine, have a game or two on it that I play, or use firebox with webvisum plugging for captchas. Otherwise it's a backup, or future backup if my wife wants to park herself in fromt of the new computer, however, now have two options between the old machine and the laptop *lol*. On Dec 31, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Nicki Muir wrote: > nice that you got a mac desktop that has lasted that long! I still have a cheap windows netbook here, but haven't turned it on for the last 3 months at least. the only time I do is if friends who are still using windows want to play windows type games. > > > On 01/01/2012, at 11:22 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: > >> Umm, well when we bough our last one it is a desktop. Have to spend the money, might as well get something that should last a long time. Our previous desktop is 9 years old and still running across the room from me, unfortunately it's a power pc so it will never evolve out of Tiger, but it's still working. The i-phone can work when mobil, have cheap Windows laptop here too but rarely use it. >> >> On Dec 31, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Nicki Muir wrote: >> >>> the other thing people have got to remember is if you ask most people these days what they want out of a computer the answer usually is portability. I don't own any desktops anymore the only things I have here are a macbook pro, a iPad and an iPhone. for me as just a normal home user that regularly goes on the move thats all I need. >>> >>> take care >>> Nicki >>> >>> On 01/01/2012, at 8:40 AM, Bubba wrote: >>> >>>> I understand that the problem is that there is not enough demand for them it >>>> is not a supply problem . Have plenty of them they just not selling! >>>> >>>> >>>> Bubba >>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:12 PM >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: apple removing stuff from there product line >>>> >>>> What? If there's not enough supply if there was an initial demand then >>>> prices should go up thus more incentive to make more. So the problem is not >>>> enough demand verses supply. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well supply and demand you know. If there is not enough supply there will >>>> not be enough demand for it. So even though i don't like the move it makes >>>> sense from a business point of view. >>>>> >>>>> Take care all >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Bubba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It was on CBS news and they said they did not have the sells for it. >>>>>> That the I mac does what most people and users wanted and that was >>>>>> what was selling in the Desktop market for them the IMac and then the >>>>>> Mac mini as the low end affordable desktop! I don't necessary think >>>>>> they should as I can see where very high end people will need it but >>>>>> there is just not enough of them. See link below as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=135078 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bubba >>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:46 AM >>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>>>>> >>>>>> Where did you hear they'd be getting rid of the pro? that's their >>>>>> power system, the mini and IMac don't have the space to use the >>>>>> components >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 2:27 >>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>>>>> >>>>>>> HI, they got rid of the old Mac book and will be getting rid of the >>>>>>> Mac Pro I hear ! What is left as computers or will be left is the >>>>>>> desktop is IMac and Mac mini, As laptops or note books is the Mac >>>>>>> Book Pro in 13, 15 and >>>>>>> 17 >>>>>>> inch models, then there is their line of netbooks which is the Mac >>>>>>> Book Air which comes in 11 and 13 inch model. Now as of now they >>>>>>> still have the Mac Pro desktop listed on their site! Also check out >>>>>>> there refurbish models on their site which you might find the Mac >>>>>>> Book as well! HTH >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>>> Alawami >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 6:36 PM >>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok. so they git rid of one model of macbook can't remember wich and >>>>>>> one model of mac pro. so what's left for this person to choose from? >>>>>>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, it is the Imac! But pretty soon I understand the only desktop >>>>>>>> that will be able to buy from Apple is the Mac Mini or Imac as they >>>>>>>> are no longer going to make the Mac Pro desktop. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sign, >>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>>>> Alawami >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM >>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything >>>>>>>> is in teh moniter. Is that the IMac? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. >>>>>>>> I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like I do >>>>>>>> back and forth across campus, an air might be for you On Dec 29, >>>>>>>> 2011, at >>>>>>>> 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug. >>>>>>>>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I >>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>> heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what >>>>>>>> you are saying was true, but not anymore. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> monitor >>>>>>>>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I >>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> seen >>>>>>>>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused >>>>>>>>>> adaptor plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand >>>>>>>>>> experience of >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> though so I cannot swear to it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>>>>>> Alawami >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07 >>>>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't you now need a monitor to run a mac mini? I've heard >>>>>>>>>> that's now >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have >>>>>>>>>> everything in the monitor including usb and mic jacks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac >>>>>>>>>>> but very good space saving desktop! JST ! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane >>>>>>>>>>> Bomar >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM >>>>>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I >>>>>>>>>>> would suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need >>>>>>>>>>> a screen, or like having more than one monitor. >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>>>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the >>>>>>>>>>>> MacBook Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop >>>>>>>>>>>> replacement then look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If >>>>>>>>>>>> wanting something very light and portable but not as powerful >>>>>>>>>>>> look at the Mac book air 13 inch model. JMT >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike >>>>>>>>>>>> Welty >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hey all, >>>>>>>>>>>> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering >>>>>>>>>>>> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I >>>>>>>>>>>> want faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on >>>>>>>>>>>> what route I should go. 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>>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Jan 1 11:34:45 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 11:34:45 +0000 Subject: iPhone and iPod Travel Speakers Message-ID: <4F0044D5.6020302@techno-chat.net> Happy New Year to you all from here in the UK! We are 11 hours into 2012. Here is my first post. I received iPhone/iPod Travel Speakers as a Christmas present from my father. It looks like it has a docking station as well as you fit the iPhone or iPod into the opening at the centre. The only way I can describe it is a larger than usual toilet roll lol. The two speakers at either end look like spotlights. How to set it up it looks like: 1. Plug one end of the 3.5 mm cable into the correct slot on the device. Plug the other end into the iPhone or iPod's audio out socket. 2. Another interesting observation is that you appear to be able to charge the speakers via the supplied USB cable. So you would plug the USB end into an available USB port on the computer, then plug the other end into the correct socket on the device. You will know if it is the correct socket as it will go in without resisting. It is charging as I speak. There are also a couple of push button controls, LEDs, additional sockets, etc. But I do not know what they do yet. The only problem I am having is that the iPod does not want to fit properly unlike the iPhone. Unfortunately my father could not tell me if it was compatible with the iPod Touch 4, however it does say on the packaging compatible with iPhone and iPod. Please advise on this one. Thanks! I am therefore wondering if you have heard of this device before and if so what do you think to it? I will post a separate message about my desktop sound dock. Anyway, a very Happy accessible 2012 to you all! Lol! From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Jan 1 11:40:33 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 11:40:33 +0000 Subject: iPhone and iPod desktop sound dock Message-ID: <4F004631.4080705@techno-chat.net> I received an iPhone and iPod Sound Dock for Christmas from my father. This is a desktop unit, plugged via a mains outlet, and consists of two speakers, one on the left, one on the right, and a docking station in the centre where you fit your iPhone or iPod. I am unfortunately having the same problem as described in my previous post. This device also charges your iPhone and iPod. The audio quality is excellent and is suitable for both music and speech from VoiceOver. There are three push button controls on the top right of the unit: power on and off, volume down and volume up. As soon as the iPhone or iPod is docked and the speakers are plugged into a mains outlet, the speakers power on automatically. Not only will it charge the device, it will also route all audio output to the speakers. Good or what! From blindworrell at yahoo.com Sun Jan 1 15:29:12 2012 From: blindworrell at yahoo.com (Ed Worrell) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 08:29:12 -0700 Subject: Facebook replacement app for iphone In-Reply-To: References: <2A874946-1043-4A69-B0C9-2B980978CB5A@yahoo.com> <888BFA26-5564-45ED-898F-ABD1614E21D6@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: The only thing that I have found is that you can't comment on a status update untill someone else does first. My wife says the comment button isn't visible to VO unless there is a previous comment, but to sighted users that button is always there. I have sent a email to the developers, hopefully they will fix this issue, other then that I have not found to many issues with the app. if you found any issues that you need or want to tell the developer about here is the email address support at facedekk.com Ed From mattchao at verizon.net Sun Jan 1 16:43:36 2012 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 11:43:36 -0500 Subject: Facebook replacement app for iphone In-Reply-To: References: <2A874946-1043-4A69-B0C9-2B980978CB5A@yahoo.com> <888BFA26-5564-45ED-898F-ABD1614E21D6@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <0LX400FG7P4V50YY@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Hello. It's not whether they have a clue; it's whether they C-A-R-E. Many folks have complained about the accessibility of Facebook to the developers without much success. Windows or Mac, it doesn't matter; results the same. Matthew Chao At 10:16 PM 12/31/2011, you wrote: >I don't think Facebook has ever had a clue, not even with windows machines. >On 01/01/2012, at 11:07 AM, Ed Worrell wrote: > > > Yes I have this one too, I just don't like that it doesn't tell > you Notifications in a clear way, the interface is a little weird, > the app works well though. I don like that it is completely > accessible with VO, I just wanted to show that there was another > alternative out there. I feel that I miss a lot of things with > Focus, still a good app alternitive to the clunky Facebook app, > they just don't have a clue do they. > > > > Ed > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, > Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > > > ><--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > >To reply to this post, please address your message to >mac-access at mac-access.net > >You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > >or at the public Mail Archive: >. >Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > >The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >virus and worm-free! > >Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Jan 1 17:37:32 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 17:37:32 +0000 Subject: Update Re: iPhone and iPod Travel Speakers In-Reply-To: <4F0044C0.70502@gmail.com> References: <4F0044C0.70502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F0099DC.1040401@techno-chat.net> Christopher H TAFN member I have an update on the travel speakers. These speakers do not actually get charged. How they work is: 1. If you wish to use it with your iPhone or iPod, place the iPhone or iPod in the docking station. All audio will be routed to the speakers, however they will not charge the iPhone or iPod. 2. If you wish to use speakers with a laptop, for example, you have to connect the two cables I described below. The 3.5 mm cable goes in the computer's audio out socket. The USB cable powers the speakers when used in this configuration. Otherwise the below still applies. I should also mention there is an on/off switch somewhere at the top of the unit. The two push button controls are volume down and volume up respectively. Christopher H On 01/01/2012 11:34, chris hallsworth wrote: > Happy New Year to you all from here in the UK! We are 11 hours into > 2012. Here is my first post. > I received iPhone/iPod Travel Speakers as a Christmas present from my > father. It looks like it has a docking station as well as you fit the > iPhone or iPod into the opening at the centre. The only way I can > describe it is a larger than usual toilet roll lol. The two speakers at > either end look like spotlights. How to set it up it looks like: > 1. Plug one end of the 3.5 mm cable into the correct slot on the device. > Plug the other end into the iPhone or iPod's audio out socket. > 2. Another interesting observation is that you appear to be able to > charge the speakers via the supplied USB cable. So you would plug the > USB end into an available USB port on the computer, then plug the other > end into the correct socket on the device. You will know if it is the > correct socket as it will go in without resisting. It is charging as I > speak. > There are also a couple of push button controls, LEDs, additional > sockets, etc. But I do not know what they do yet. The only problem I am > having is that the iPod does not want to fit properly unlike the iPhone. > Unfortunately my father could not tell me if it was compatible with the > iPod Touch 4, however it does say on the packaging compatible with > iPhone and iPod. Please advise on this one. Thanks! > I am therefore wondering if you have heard of this device before and if > so what do you think to it? > I will post a separate message about my desktop sound dock. > Anyway, a very Happy accessible 2012 to you all! Lol! From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 1 19:41:16 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 11:41:16 -0800 Subject: Facebook replacement app for iphone In-Reply-To: <2A874946-1043-4A69-B0C9-2B980978CB5A@yahoo.com> References: <2A874946-1043-4A69-B0C9-2B980978CB5A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ok. I tried to figure out the facetech app but there is no way to like or comment on a post. All I see are the posts on my feeds tab. How does one do this with facetech? Take care. On Dec 31, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Ed Worrell wrote: > Hello listers, I have found a really great app to replace the Facebook crap of an app. The app is called Facedekk it is made by Taknology, you can search for either of these and find it in the app store. I don't know if it is in all the app stores I live in the United States. It is a great app the developers have made it fully accessible with VO, not sure if this was intentional but it is great anyway, It does everything the Facebook app is supposed to do. The only thing that I have found that doesn't work is the settings section of the app, I did send a email to the developer to see if they would fix this issue, and to see if they would add push notifications to the app. The app even uses the Vo gestures to back to the previous page which I missed greatly on the Facebook app. It is a all around well done app. There is two versions of the app one that is $.99 and that is free, I have purchesed the paid version. > > Enjoy, > Ed > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 1 19:45:36 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 11:45:36 -0800 Subject: Facebook replacement app for iphone In-Reply-To: References: <2A874946-1043-4A69-B0C9-2B980978CB5A@yahoo.com> <888BFA26-5564-45ED-898F-ABD1614E21D6@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <77E4F68E-131E-488A-B11B-7D10C0B0E3B1@gmail.com> Thanks. I just sent them an email. let's hope they fix it as the last update was in august of 2011. On Jan 1, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Ed Worrell wrote: > The only thing that I have found is that you can't comment on a status update untill someone else does first. My wife says the comment button isn't visible to VO unless there is a previous comment, but to sighted users that button is always there. I have sent a email to the developers, hopefully they will fix this issue, other then that I have not found to many issues with the app. if you found any issues that you need or want to tell the developer about here is the email address support at facedekk.com > > Ed > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Jan 1 19:53:00 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:53:00 +0000 Subject: Tip of the day: really customize your music and videos on your iOS device Message-ID: <4F00B99C.4050109@techno-chat.net> I apologize in advance if this should be posted elsewhere. I use iTunes for the other operating system, so the below steps may or may not apply on your mac. Hello all. Are you fighting with iTunes because you don't want something in your music library, only to be re-copied during a sync? This is what happened to me. I deleted a Christmas album from my iTunes library for obvious reasons, but it got re-copied when I synced my iPod. Here is the solution I found. 1. In the sources tree, select your iOS device. 2. Make sure the summary radio button is selected. 3. Check the manually manage music and videos check box. 4. Click apply. 5. Now expand the tree for your iOS device so you can see music, etc. Let's take music as an example. 6. Focus to the music list. 7. Delete one or more entries. To delete all, select all with ctrl-a then delete with the delete key. 8. Click remove if you are asked to do so. 9. Magically, some or all of the music on your iOS device has now disappeared! 10. Collaps the tree so you only see your iOS device. 11. Make sure the summary radio button is selected. 12. Uncheck manually manage music and videos. 13. You will be warned that content on your iOS device will be replaced by content in your iTunes library. So make sure you don't have anything you don't want in your iTunes library before proceeding. Click ok to continue. 14. Click apply. 15. Now do a sync to your iOS device. 16. All being well, only the music you want will be on your iOS device! Hope this tip is of some use. Chat soon. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 1 20:45:25 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 12:45:25 -0800 Subject: Tip of the day: really customize your music and videos on your iOS device In-Reply-To: <4F00B99C.4050109@techno-chat.net> References: <4F00B99C.4050109@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <30D0B072-4E14-4A9F-8718-70107B7A5BA3@gmail.com> The only thing is you cannot synch books that way at all. I've tried and it just doesn't work. I had to uncheck that box and just remove stuff from my library. lol! On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:53 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > I apologize in advance if this should be posted elsewhere. I use iTunes for the other operating system, so the below steps may or may not apply on your mac. > Hello all. > Are you fighting with iTunes because you don't want something in your music library, only to be re-copied during a sync? This is what happened to me. I deleted a Christmas album from my iTunes library for obvious reasons, but it got re-copied when I synced my iPod. Here is the solution I found. > 1. In the sources tree, select your iOS device. > 2. Make sure the summary radio button is selected. > 3. Check the manually manage music and videos check box. > 4. Click apply. > 5. Now expand the tree for your iOS device so you can see music, etc. Let's take music as an example. > 6. Focus to the music list. > 7. Delete one or more entries. To delete all, select all with ctrl-a then delete with the delete key. > 8. Click remove if you are asked to do so. > 9. Magically, some or all of the music on your iOS device has now disappeared! > 10. Collaps the tree so you only see your iOS device. > 11. Make sure the summary radio button is selected. > 12. Uncheck manually manage music and videos. > 13. You will be warned that content on your iOS device will be replaced by content in your iTunes library. So make sure you don't have anything you don't want in your iTunes library before proceeding. Click ok to continue. > 14. Click apply. > 15. Now do a sync to your iOS device. > 16. All being well, only the music you want will be on your iOS device! > Hope this tip is of some use. > Chat soon. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rattail4 at gmail.com Sun Jan 1 23:30:20 2012 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 18:30:20 -0500 Subject: does this app work? Message-ID: Hey all, Was wondering if anyone has tried the myWPEdit app for blogging to wordpress with voiceover? If so, how well does it work, can it be used easily? Want to know before I shell out the 10 bucks for it. From opensesame at me.com Mon Jan 2 00:32:54 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:32:54 -0500 Subject: Podcaster Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <75561D49-577C-4D4E-AA3C-8D1795F0E852@me.com> Hi Jane, Although there is an "unsubscribe" button at the bottom of each podcast's page in the current version of Podcaster, I take 2 additional steps in order to make sure any downloaded episodes get deleted from the iPhone's database prior to unsubscribing. Here are the steps that seem to work for me: 1. From the main Podcaster screen, double-tap the podcast you want to unsubscribe. This will put you into the screen for that podcast. 2. In the bottom right corner of the screen, double-tap the More button and select the "Mark all as read" choice. 3. Double-tap the "Podcast settings" button which is second from the right on the bottom of the screen, and select "Cleanup" from the settings menu to delete any downloaded episodes from the local database. 4. Double-tap the "Unsubscribe" button on the bottom of the screen. This should complete the process. HTH, Bryan . Sent from my iPhone. On Dec 31, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Jane wrote: > How do I tell Podcaster to delete podcast feeds I've subscribed to? From margaretebooth at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 01:33:54 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:33:54 +1100 Subject: Deleting multiple contacts on iPhone Message-ID: <6573809065043594681@unknownmsgid> Can someone tell me how tto deelete multiple contactss on my iPhone 4.. I do know how to delete indivvidual contacts. Margaret Sent from my iPhone From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 03:38:19 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 19:38:19 -0800 Subject: Deleting multiple contacts on iPhone In-Reply-To: <6573809065043594681@unknownmsgid> References: <6573809065043594681@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: I don't think there's a way. you have to swipe an dget rid of individual contacts. If I'm wrong let me know? please? On Jan 1, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > Can someone tell me how tto deelete multiple contactss on my iPhone > 4.. I do know how to delete indivvidual contacts. > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 04:17:40 2012 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:17:40 -0500 Subject: Deleting multiple contacts on iPhone In-Reply-To: <6573809065043594681@unknownmsgid> References: <6573809065043594681@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <4F1A1725-EF15-4E80-BB19-A381A29A7B99@gmail.com> There is no way to delete multiple contacts. They must be deleted individually. However, there is an app called deleteq in which you can do this. Here is the link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/delete-contacts-fast-deleteq/id435474359?mt=8 On Jan 1, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: Can someone tell me how tto deelete multiple contactss on my iPhone 4.. I do know how to delete indivvidual contacts. Margaret Sent from my iPhone <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 05:37:10 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 21:37:10 -0800 Subject: does this app work? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3BBEFA5E-0841-458C-91BD-9212F1E25386@gmail.com> If you want to edit wordpress pages on the mac try mars edit. If it is for iphone try the free wordpress app. Both work very well. On Jan 1, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Mike Welty wrote: > Hey all, > Was wondering if anyone has tried the myWPEdit app for blogging to wordpress with voiceover? If so, how well does it work, can it be used easily? Want to know before I shell out the 10 bucks for it. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Mon Jan 2 06:08:12 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 06:08:12 +0000 Subject: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls Message-ID: <4f0146e2.5366e30a.2e61.ffff8578@mx.google.com> i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i can upgrade is august this year i think. is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching between earpiece and hands free speaker. apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end of a call which is a bit of a nusance. has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to work as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this switching between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my phone to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that they were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the internet at the time. From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Mon Jan 2 06:12:32 2012 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 00:12:32 -0600 Subject: sign on screen inquiry Message-ID: <50203D92-2424-47D9-8404-4B06DA003202@swbell.net> Hi list: I was wondering if anyone can tell me how to turn on voice over at the sign on screen automatically? I have multiple accounts on my computer and have the sign on screen which pops up first. As it is right now voice over doe snot turn on automatically. How can I fix this problem please? From cjsims at me.com Mon Jan 2 05:59:22 2012 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:59:22 +1100 Subject: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls In-Reply-To: <4f0146e2.5366e30a.2e61.ffff8578@mx.google.com> References: <4f0146e2.5366e30a.2e61.ffff8578@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <3D1F6A35-60CC-498C-A4B0-2A94B8DC5153@me.com> I don't have the issue that you speak of with my Iphone 4S. On 02/01/2012, at 5:08 PM, michael weaver wrote: > i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. > i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i can upgrade is august this year i think. > is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? > i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching between earpiece and hands free speaker. > apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end of a call which is a bit of a nusance. > has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? > i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to work as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this switching between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. > as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my phone to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that they were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the internet at the time. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com Mon Jan 2 10:54:27 2012 From: Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com (Frank Ventura) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 05:54:27 -0500 Subject: Multiple Exchange accounts in Mac mail? Message-ID: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB990B95@mail.mail.breezes.local> HI all, I am using the Mail program built into Lion with one Exchange account right now and it works fine. Does anyone know if it can handle multiple Exchange accounts like IOS can? If so is there a limit to the number? Tia Sincerely, Frank M. Ventura Email: frank.m.ventura at gmail.com IMessage: frankmventura at mac.com VoiceMail: (781) 492/4262 From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Jan 2 10:56:01 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 10:56:01 +0000 Subject: sign on screen inquiry In-Reply-To: <50203D92-2424-47D9-8404-4B06DA003202@swbell.net> References: <50203D92-2424-47D9-8404-4B06DA003202@swbell.net> Message-ID: Hi Michael, Here's how to activate VoiceOver for the Login screen if you're running Lion. The steps are, if I remember correctly, exactly the same for activation under Snow Leopard, with the minor change that "Users & Groups" is called "Accounts". So here goes? 1. Open "System Preferences". You'll find this in the menu bar, under the "Apple" menu. You can get to the menu bar by either pressing "VO+M" or "Control+F2". 2. In "System Preferences", navigate to and activate the "Users & Groups" button. Remember, that under Snow Leopard, this option is called "Accounts". 3. Interact with the "Users, Groups & Login options" table. By default, the currently running account will be selected. At the bottom of the table, you'll find "Login Options". 4. Stop interacting and VO right. In the list of checkboxes and pop-up buttons, you'll find a checkbox called "Use VoiceOver at Login window". Check this box and you're good to go. HTH TC :) J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 2 Jan 2012, at 06:12, michael maslo wrote: > Hi list: > > I was wondering if anyone can tell me how to turn on voice over at the sign on screen automatically? I have multiple accounts on my computer and have the sign on screen which pops up first. As it is right now voice over doe snot turn on automatically. > > How can I fix this problem please? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Jan 2 11:16:51 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:16:51 +0000 Subject: Apps to enter text to iOS device using PC keyboard Message-ID: <4F019223.803@techno-chat.net> Is there a free or paid app that would allow one to enter text to an iOS device from a PC keyboard? From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Mon Jan 2 11:44:11 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 07:44:11 -0400 Subject: Deleting multiple contacts on iPhone References: <6573809065043594681@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Hi: Try ContactClean. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 11:38 PM Subject: Re: Deleting multiple contacts on iPhone >I don't think there's a way. you have to swipe an dget rid of individual >contacts. > > If I'm wrong let me know? please? > On Jan 1, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > >> Can someone tell me how tto deelete multiple contactss on my iPhone >> 4.. I do know how to delete indivvidual contacts. >> Margaret >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 12:49:43 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 07:49:43 -0500 Subject: apple removing stuff from their product line In-Reply-To: <57B137B4-C1EF-4241-B6C7-C55C5566F5FD@cox.net> References: <002101ccc81d$e6c70070$b4550150$@gmail.com> <57B137B4-C1EF-4241-B6C7-C55C5566F5FD@cox.net> Message-ID: <00c701ccc94d$0089d700$019d8500$@gmail.com> Well, this is what apple is saying but don't take nothing to the bank till they say no more! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David McLean Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:43 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: apple removing stuff from their product line Is this official? I've seen rumors that the Macpro wouldn't be updated but nothing official from Apple. On Dec 31, 2011, at 7:40 PM, Bubba wrote: > I understand that the problem is that there is not enough demand for > them it is not a supply problem . Have plenty of them they just not selling! > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:12 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: apple removing stuff from there product line > > What? If there's not enough supply if there was an initial demand > then prices should go up thus more incentive to make more. So the > problem is not enough demand verses supply. > > > On Dec 31, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Well supply and demand you know. If there is not enough supply there >> will > not be enough demand for it. So even though i don't like the move it > makes sense from a business point of view. >> >> Take care all >> >> >> On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Bubba wrote: >> >>> It was on CBS news and they said they did not have the sells for it. >>> That the I mac does what most people and users wanted and that was >>> what was selling in the Desktop market for them the IMac and then >>> the Mac mini as the low end affordable desktop! I don't necessary >>> think they should as I can see where very high end people will need >>> it but there is just not enough of them. See link below as well. >>> >>> http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=135078 >>> >>> >>> Bubba >>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty >>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:46 AM >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>> >>> Where did you hear they'd be getting rid of the pro? that's their >>> power system, the mini and IMac don't have the space to use the >>> components >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Bubba" >>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 2:27 >>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>> >>>> HI, they got rid of the old Mac book and will be getting rid of the >>>> Mac Pro I hear ! What is left as computers or will be left is the >>>> desktop is IMac and Mac mini, As laptops or note books is the Mac >>>> Book Pro in 13, 15 and >>>> 17 >>>> inch models, then there is their line of netbooks which is the Mac >>>> Book Air which comes in 11 and 13 inch model. Now as of now they >>>> still have the Mac Pro desktop listed on their site! Also check out >>>> there refurbish models on their site which you might find the Mac >>>> Book as well! HTH >>>> >>>> >>>> Bubba >>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>> Alawami >>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 6:36 PM >>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book >>>> >>>> Ok. so they git rid of one model of macbook can't remember wich and >>>> one model of mac pro. so what's left for this person to choose from? >>>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, it is the Imac! But pretty soon I understand the only desktop >>>>> that will be able to buy from Apple is the Mac Mini or Imac as >>>>> they are no longer going to make the Mac Pro desktop. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sign, >>>>> Bubba >>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>> Alawami >>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM >>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>> >>>>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein >>>>> everything is in teh moniter. Is that the IMac? >>>>> >>>>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. >>>>> I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like I do >>>>> back and forth across campus, an air might be for you On Dec 29, >>>>> 2011, at >>>>> 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug. >>>>>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I >>>>>> had >>>>> heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what >>>>> you are saying was true, but not anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" >>>>> >>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM >>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is >>>>>>> a >>>>> monitor >>>>>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I >>>>>>> have >>>>> seen >>>>>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and >>>>>>> unused adaptor plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No >>>>>>> first hand experience of >>>>> this >>>>>>> though so I cannot swear to it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>>> Alawami >>>>>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07 >>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't you now need a monitor to run a mac mini? I've heard >>>>>>> that's now >>>>> the >>>>>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have >>>>>>> everything in the monitor including usb and mic jacks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac >>>>>>>> but very good space saving desktop! JST ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane >>>>>>>> Bomar >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM >>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I >>>>>>>> would suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need >>>>>>>> a screen, or like having more than one monitor. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the >>>>>>>>> MacBook Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop >>>>>>>>> replacement then look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If >>>>>>>>> wanting something very light and portable but not as powerful >>>>>>>>> look at the Mac book air 13 inch model. JMT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike >>>>>>>>> Welty >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM >>>>>>>>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hey all, >>>>>>>>> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering >>>>>>>>> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I >>>>>>>>> want faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on >>>>>>>>> what route I should go. 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>> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 13:01:10 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 08:01:10 -0500 Subject: Deleting multiple contacts on iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <6573809065043594681@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <00c801ccc94e$9a516780$cef43680$@gmail.com> Yes, thru iTunes! Just make your corrections in outlook and then sync to outlook from the computer or if using Mac sync with the Mac mail client! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Jim Noseworthy Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 6:44 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Deleting multiple contacts on iPhone Hi: Try ContactClean. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 11:38 PM Subject: Re: Deleting multiple contacts on iPhone >I don't think there's a way. you have to swipe an dget rid of individual >contacts. > > If I'm wrong let me know? please? > On Jan 1, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > >> Can someone tell me how tto deelete multiple contactss on my iPhone >> 4.. I do know how to delete indivvidual contacts. >> Margaret >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 13:02:56 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 08:02:56 -0500 Subject: Deleting multiple contacts on iPhone In-Reply-To: <4F1A1725-EF15-4E80-BB19-A381A29A7B99@gmail.com> References: <6573809065043594681@unknownmsgid> <4F1A1725-EF15-4E80-BB19-A381A29A7B99@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00c901ccc94e$d99b08b0$8cd11a10$@gmail.com> If you do it from the computer thru iTunes you can! Just sync to your mail client after making correction in it! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 11:18 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Deleting multiple contacts on iPhone There is no way to delete multiple contacts. They must be deleted individually. However, there is an app called deleteq in which you can do this. Here is the link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/delete-contacts-fast-deleteq/id435474359?mt=8 On Jan 1, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: Can someone tell me how tto deelete multiple contactss on my iPhone 4.. I do know how to delete indivvidual contacts. Margaret Sent from my iPhone <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gordon at mac-access.net Mon Jan 2 15:22:40 2012 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:22:40 +0000 Subject: Good to be back, and a Mac Keyboard question Message-ID: <2AC01DFB-67ED-4F69-AD62-E74CE5741110@mac-access.net> Hi all It's great to have finally been let loose with keyboards again. Now, I have a question. Does anybody happen to know the key combination or other method of producing the character to represent "One Third" on the Mac's keyboard? I've tried everything I can think of, but I cannot produce the desired effect. Thanks in advance. Gordon From mattchao at verizon.net Mon Jan 2 15:28:07 2012 From: mattchao at verizon.net (Matthew Chao) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:28:07 -0500 Subject: Which contact Cleaner? Message-ID: <0LX6009HDGAXY6C3@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, Folks. Have been reading about Deleteq and ContactCleaner. They both sound good, but has anyone had the chance to compare the two apps? Would like to know before I plunk down some money and buy one of these. Most important, which one is more accessible? Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao From jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 15:37:38 2012 From: jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com (Jonathan Tyrer) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:37:38 +0000 Subject: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls In-Reply-To: <3D1F6A35-60CC-498C-A4B0-2A94B8DC5153@me.com> References: <4f0146e2.5366e30a.2e61.ffff8578@mx.google.com> <3D1F6A35-60CC-498C-A4B0-2A94B8DC5153@me.com> Message-ID: This is a strange one, I was totally in the same boat as you with my iPone 4 - it was unuseable without the workarounds you mentioned. I still had people saying it wasn't happening to them and that it was just me! Now have a 4S and I can say it is a lot lot better. I can't say it never happens, it happened about an hour ago, but it seems that if you get it to your ear smoothly, it starts off on the earpiece and stays there, if it's funny at the start your best ending the call and calling them back. I'd say it's 99% better than before. Of course, if you are waiting untill August, we'll be only weeks away from the iPhone 5 and you might as well wait for that one! Happy new year. Jonathan On 02/01/2012, Christopher Sims wrote: > I don't have the issue that you speak of with my Iphone 4S. > On 02/01/2012, at 5:08 PM, michael weaver wrote: > >> i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. >> i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i can >> upgrade is august this year i think. >> is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? >> i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all >> affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching >> between earpiece and hands free speaker. >> apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the >> problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the >> home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end of >> a call which is a bit of a nusance. >> has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? >> i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to work >> as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone >> talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this switching >> between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. >> as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my >> experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my phone >> to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that they >> were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the >> internet at the time. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 15:38:21 2012 From: jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com (Jonathan Tyrer) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:38:21 +0000 Subject: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls In-Reply-To: References: <4f0146e2.5366e30a.2e61.ffff8578@mx.google.com> <3D1F6A35-60CC-498C-A4B0-2A94B8DC5153@me.com> Message-ID: On 02/01/2012, Jonathan Tyrer wrote: > This is a strange one, I was totally in the same boat as you with my > iPone 4 - it was unuseable without the workarounds you mentioned. > > I still had people saying it wasn't happening to them and that it was just > me! > > Now have a 4S and I can say it is a lot lot better. I can't say it > never happens, it happened about an hour ago, but it seems that if you > get it to your ear smoothly, it starts off on the earpiece and stays > there, if it's funny at the start your best ending the call and > calling them back. > > I'd say it's 99% better than before. > > Of course, if you are waiting untill August, we'll be only weeks away > from the iPhone 5 and you might as well wait for that one! > > Happy new year. > > Jonathan > > On 02/01/2012, Christopher Sims wrote: >> I don't have the issue that you speak of with my Iphone 4S. >> On 02/01/2012, at 5:08 PM, michael weaver wrote: >> >>> i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. >>> i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i >>> can >>> upgrade is august this year i think. >>> is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? >>> i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all >>> affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching >>> between earpiece and hands free speaker. >>> apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the >>> problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the >>> home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end >>> of >>> a call which is a bit of a nusance. >>> has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? >>> i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to >>> work >>> as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone >>> talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this >>> switching >>> between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. >>> as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my >>> experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my >>> phone >>> to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that >>> they >>> were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the >>> internet at the time. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting >> the list website at: >> >> > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Mon Jan 2 15:46:21 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:46:21 +0100 Subject: Good to be back, and a Mac Keyboard question In-Reply-To: <2AC01DFB-67ED-4F69-AD62-E74CE5741110@mac-access.net> References: <2AC01DFB-67ED-4F69-AD62-E74CE5741110@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <64F53A71-D40D-476B-82AC-ADF65A901FAB@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Gordon, On 2 Jan 2012, at 16:22, Gordon Smith wrote: > Does anybody happen to know the key combination or other method of producing the character to represent "One Third" on the Mac's keyboard? In System Preferences, go to the Language&Text pane. Select the Text tab. Go right to Use symbol and text substitution and make sure that the check box is checked. Below that check box is a table of substitutions. Make sure that the 1/3 is checked, then when you type 1/3 it will be converted to the 1-third symbol. Cheers, Anne From gordon at mac-access.net Mon Jan 2 16:13:39 2012 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:13:39 +0000 Subject: Good to be back, and a Mac Keyboard question In-Reply-To: <64F53A71-D40D-476B-82AC-ADF65A901FAB@anarchie.org.uk> References: <2AC01DFB-67ED-4F69-AD62-E74CE5741110@mac-access.net> <64F53A71-D40D-476B-82AC-ADF65A901FAB@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Anne Excellent! Thanks a lot, that's what I needed. I'm very rusty as I'm sure you'll know, just starting to slowly get back into things. I will write to you privately shortly. Gordon On 2 Jan 2012, at 15:46, Anne Robertson wrote: In System Preferences, go to the Language&Text pane. Select the Text tab. Go right to Use symbol and text substitution and make sure that the check box is checked. Below that check box is a table of substitutions. Make sure that the 1/3 is checked, then when you type 1/3 it will be converted to the 1-third symbol. From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Jan 2 16:42:00 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:42:00 +0000 Subject: My Phone Desktop Message-ID: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 Enjoy! From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 17:26:10 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:26:10 -0600 Subject: Multiple Exchange accounts in Mac mail? In-Reply-To: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB990B95@mail.mail.breezes.local> References: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB990B95@mail.mail.breezes.local> Message-ID: <0C893103-B64C-43C5-99F9-04320100B8FD@gmail.com> Not sure what you mean by exchange accounts, but I have 15 gmail addresses running in Apple Mail right now, and the amount of them doesn't seem to be a problem. A lot of them are dedicated so specific groups, and I have rules which then shunt mail from those accounts into boxes on my Mac. Then I don't clutter up my main in-box, and can pick and choose my priority of reading groups mail. All of these are gmail though, don't know about other services. On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote: > HI all, I am using the Mail program built into Lion with one Exchange > account right now and it works fine. Does anyone know if it can handle > multiple Exchange accounts like IOS can? If so is there a limit to the > number? > Tia > > Sincerely, > Frank M. Ventura > > Email: frank.m.ventura at gmail.com > IMessage: frankmventura at mac.com > VoiceMail: (781) 492/4262 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Mon Jan 2 17:28:37 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:28:37 -0400 Subject: Which contact Cleaner? References: <0LX6009HDGAXY6C3@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Matthew: I find ContactClean to be quite accessible. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Chao" To: Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: Which contact Cleaner? > Hi, Folks. Have been reading about Deleteq and ContactCleaner. They both > sound good, but has anyone had the chance to compare the two apps? Would > like to know before I plunk down some money and buy one of these. Most > important, which one is more accessible? Thanks in advance. > > Matthew Chao > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com Mon Jan 2 17:54:40 2012 From: Frank.Ventura at littlebreezes.com (Frank Ventura) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:54:40 -0500 Subject: Multiple Exchange accounts in Mac mail? In-Reply-To: <0C893103-B64C-43C5-99F9-04320100B8FD@gmail.com> References: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB990B95@mail.mail.breezes.local> <0C893103-B64C-43C5-99F9-04320100B8FD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB990B9B@mail.mail.breezes.local> Hi by Exchange I mean accounts that are hosted on a Microsoft Exchange server. Sincerely, Frank M. Ventura Email: frank.m.ventura at gmail.com IMessage: frankmventura at mac.com VoiceMail: (781) 492/4262 -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:26 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Multiple Exchange accounts in Mac mail? Not sure what you mean by exchange accounts, but I have 15 gmail addresses running in Apple Mail right now, and the amount of them doesn't seem to be a problem. A lot of them are dedicated so specific groups, and I have rules which then shunt mail from those accounts into boxes on my Mac. Then I don't clutter up my main in-box, and can pick and choose my priority of reading groups mail. All of these are gmail though, don't know about other services. On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote: > HI all, I am using the Mail program built into Lion with one Exchange > account right now and it works fine. Does anyone know if it can handle > multiple Exchange accounts like IOS can? If so is there a limit to the > number? > Tia > > Sincerely, > Frank M. Ventura > > Email: frank.m.ventura at gmail.com > IMessage: frankmventura at mac.com > VoiceMail: (781) 492/4262 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From opensesame at me.com Mon Jan 2 18:11:09 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:11:09 -0500 Subject: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls In-Reply-To: References: <4f0146e2.5366e30a.2e61.ffff8578@mx.google.com> <3D1F6A35-60CC-498C-A4B0-2A94B8DC5153@me.com> Message-ID: <8C5BC431-7AE4-4E7E-B776-FC0D94E94ED2@me.com> Hi Michael, I'm wondering if your speaker / earpiece switching bug is the same as the proximity sensor bug many of us experienced when the iPhone 4 was first released. The proximity sensor, which is located next to the earpiece on the iPhone 4, is a sensor that recognizes when some object, usually a person's face, gets close to the earpiece. For VO Users, the proximity sensor is what normally tells the iPhone to switch it's phone audio between the earpiece and the speaker. For both VO and non-BO users, the proximity sensor prevents the User's cheek from "pressing" any buttons on the touch screen whilst the phone is being held against the face. The issue of unwanted earpiece / speaker switching as well as unwanted button presses by the User's cheek were widely reported by both VO and non-VO Users when the iPhone 4 was first introduced. Apple released several IOS 4.x updates meant to address the issue and I was under the impression that the issue was fixed for most folks after one or another of those updates. I almost returned my iPhone 4 back when the issue was making my calls almost unbearable as you mentioned, but one of the IOS updates took care of the problem and it hasn't affected my phone since then except for the following scenario. One of the other common causes of the issue is the use of an improperly fitted case. Any case that protrudes too far below the top edge of the iPhone4 can cause this issue. The first case I purchased for my phone was a leather wallet case and the strip of leather across the top of the screen would constantly cause the phone to switch between speaker and earpiece because of the interference with the proximity sensor. I was able to replicate the issue at will when the phone was in that case. The other 2 cases I've used on my iPhone 4 -- The Speck Pixelskin and the Mophie Juice Pack Plus -- both work fine as their top edges do not interfere with the proximity sensor. One other thing I seem to recall was that a number of folks were able to take their iPhone 4 back to the Apple Store or wherever their point-of-purchase was and get it replaced. HTH, Bryan >> On 02/01/2012, at 5:08 PM, michael weaver wrote: >> >>> i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. >>> i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i can >>> upgrade is august this year i think. >>> is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? >>> i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all >>> affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching >>> between earpiece and hands free speaker. >>> apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the >>> problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the >>> home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end of >>> a call which is a bit of a nusance. >>> has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? >>> i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to work >>> as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone >>> talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this switching >>> between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. >>> as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my >>> experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my phone >>> to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that they >>> were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 18:19:30 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:19:30 -0600 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: > 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. > 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. > 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. > 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). > I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. > Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 > Enjoy! > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 18:21:03 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:21:03 -0600 Subject: Multiple Exchange accounts in Mac mail? In-Reply-To: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB990B9B@mail.mail.breezes.local> References: <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB990B95@mail.mail.breezes.local> <0C893103-B64C-43C5-99F9-04320100B8FD@gmail.com> <1B5060C9951BCF428AA6443B5C0FDAAB990B9B@mail.mail.breezes.local> Message-ID: That I don't know since mine are all gmail. On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote: > Hi by Exchange I mean accounts that are hosted on a Microsoft Exchange > server. > > Sincerely, > Frank M. Ventura > > Email: frank.m.ventura at gmail.com > IMessage: frankmventura at mac.com > VoiceMail: (781) 492/4262 > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:26 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Multiple Exchange accounts in Mac mail? > > Not sure what you mean by exchange accounts, but I have 15 gmail > addresses running in Apple Mail right now, and the amount of them > doesn't seem to be a problem. A lot of them are dedicated so specific > groups, and I have rules which then shunt mail from those accounts into > boxes on my Mac. Then I don't clutter up my main in-box, and can pick > and choose my priority of reading groups mail. All of these are gmail > though, don't know about other services. > > On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:54 AM, Frank Ventura wrote: > >> HI all, I am using the Mail program built into Lion with one Exchange >> account right now and it works fine. Does anyone know if it can handle > >> multiple Exchange accounts like IOS can? If so is there a limit to the > >> number? >> Tia >> >> Sincerely, >> Frank M. Ventura >> >> Email: frank.m.ventura at gmail.com >> IMessage: frankmventura at mac.com >> VoiceMail: (781) 492/4262 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Mon Jan 2 18:24:21 2012 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:24:21 -0600 Subject: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls References: <4f0146e2.5366e30a.2e61.ffff8578@mx.google.com><3D1F6A35-60CC-498C-A4B0-2A94B8DC5153@me.com> <8C5BC431-7AE4-4E7E-B776-FC0D94E94ED2@me.com> Message-ID: <69894C1D620A4BC69349E61E7F83A0C1@your2c061f0461> That happens to me a lot. I just got a new case for Xmas, the "Keyboard Buddy", and perhaps it will do better. One thing I have noticed with the new case is that my double-tapping is more responsive than with my old case. My old case was the hard case that would act as a stand for either watching the screen or doing a video call, because of the fold-out picture-frame stand in the back. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Jones" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:11 PM Subject: Re: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls Hi Michael, I'm wondering if your speaker / earpiece switching bug is the same as the proximity sensor bug many of us experienced when the iPhone 4 was first released. The proximity sensor, which is located next to the earpiece on the iPhone 4, is a sensor that recognizes when some object, usually a person's face, gets close to the earpiece. For VO Users, the proximity sensor is what normally tells the iPhone to switch it's phone audio between the earpiece and the speaker. For both VO and non-BO users, the proximity sensor prevents the User's cheek from "pressing" any buttons on the touch screen whilst the phone is being held against the face. The issue of unwanted earpiece / speaker switching as well as unwanted button presses by the User's cheek were widely reported by both VO and non-VO Users when the iPhone 4 was first introduced. Apple released several IOS 4.x updates meant to address the issue and I was under the impression that the issue was fixed for most folks after one or anoth er of those updates. I almost returned my iPhone 4 back when the issue was making my calls almost unbearable as you mentioned, but one of the IOS updates took care of the problem and it hasn't affected my phone since then except for the following scenario. One of the other common causes of the issue is the use of an improperly fitted case. Any case that protrudes too far below the top edge of the iPhone4 can cause this issue. The first case I purchased for my phone was a leather wallet case and the strip of leather across the top of the screen would constantly cause the phone to switch between speaker and earpiece because of the interference with the proximity sensor. I was able to replicate the issue at will when the phone was in that case. The other 2 cases I've used on my iPhone 4 -- The Speck Pixelskin and the Mophie Juice Pack Plus -- both work fine as their top edges do not interfere with the proximity sensor. One other thing I seem to recall was that a number of folks were able to take their iPhone 4 back to the Apple Store or wherever their point-of-purchase was and get it replaced. HTH, Bryan >> On 02/01/2012, at 5:08 PM, michael weaver wrote: >> >>> i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. >>> i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i >>> can >>> upgrade is august this year i think. >>> is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? >>> i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all >>> affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching >>> between earpiece and hands free speaker. >>> apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the >>> problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the >>> home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end >>> of >>> a call which is a bit of a nusance. >>> has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? >>> i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to >>> work >>> as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone >>> talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this >>> switching >>> between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. >>> as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my >>> experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my >>> phone >>> to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that >>> they >>> were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 18:43:51 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 10:43:51 -0800 Subject: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls In-Reply-To: <69894C1D620A4BC69349E61E7F83A0C1@your2c061f0461> References: <4f0146e2.5366e30a.2e61.ffff8578@mx.google.com><3D1F6A35-60CC-498C-A4B0-2A94B8DC5153@me.com> <8C5BC431-7AE4-4E7E-B776-FC0D94E94ED2@me.com> <69894C1D620A4BC69349E61E7F83A0C1@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <35E3C59A-8D49-4B61-B629-4BDC65B8D73C@gmail.com> OH it still happens to me in and out of my otter box case. and I have an iphone 4. I hope otterbox will design there case to the proxi sensor will not interfeer with that. Take care all. On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Glenn wrote: > That happens to me a lot. > I just got a new case for Xmas, the "Keyboard Buddy", and perhaps it will do > better. > One thing I have noticed with the new case is that my double-tapping is more > responsive than with my old case. > My old case was the hard case that would act as a stand for either watching > the screen or doing a video call, because of the fold-out picture-frame > stand in the back. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bryan Jones" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:11 PM > Subject: Re: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls > > > Hi Michael, > > I'm wondering if your speaker / earpiece switching bug is the same as the > proximity sensor bug many of us experienced when the iPhone 4 was first > released. The proximity sensor, which is located next to the earpiece on the > iPhone 4, is a sensor that recognizes when some object, usually a person's > face, gets close to the earpiece. For VO Users, the proximity sensor is what > normally tells the iPhone to switch it's phone audio between the earpiece > and the speaker. For both VO and non-BO users, the proximity sensor prevents > the User's cheek from "pressing" any buttons on the touch screen whilst the > phone is being held against the face. The issue of unwanted earpiece / > speaker switching as well as unwanted button presses by the User's cheek > were widely reported by both VO and non-VO Users when the iPhone 4 was first > introduced. Apple released several IOS 4.x updates meant to address the > issue and I was under the impression that the issue was fixed for most folks > after one or anoth > er of those updates. I almost returned my iPhone 4 back when the issue was > making my calls almost unbearable as you mentioned, but one of the IOS > updates took care of the problem and it hasn't affected my phone since then > except for the following scenario. One of the other common causes of the > issue is the use of an improperly fitted case. Any case that protrudes too > far below the top edge of the iPhone4 can cause this issue. The first case I > purchased for my phone was a leather wallet case and the strip of leather > across the top of the screen would constantly cause the phone to switch > between speaker and earpiece because of the interference with the proximity > sensor. I was able to replicate the issue at will when the phone was in that > case. The other 2 cases I've used on my iPhone 4 -- The Speck Pixelskin and > the Mophie Juice Pack Plus -- both work fine as their top edges do not > interfere with the proximity sensor. One other thing I seem to recall was > that a number of folks > were able to take their iPhone 4 back to the Apple Store or wherever their > point-of-purchase was and get it replaced. > > HTH, > Bryan > >>> On 02/01/2012, at 5:08 PM, michael weaver wrote: >>> >>>> i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. >>>> i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i >>>> can >>>> upgrade is august this year i think. >>>> is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? >>>> i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all >>>> affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching >>>> between earpiece and hands free speaker. >>>> apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the >>>> problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the >>>> home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end >>>> of >>>> a call which is a bit of a nusance. >>>> has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? >>>> i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to >>>> work >>>> as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone >>>> talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this >>>> switching >>>> between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. >>>> as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my >>>> experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my >>>> phone >>>> to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that >>>> they >>>> were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 18:45:01 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 10:45:01 -0800 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> Message-ID: I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: > Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. > On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >> Enjoy! >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Mon Jan 2 18:49:13 2012 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:49:13 +1100 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! > On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: > >> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>> Enjoy! >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 18:56:35 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 10:56:35 -0800 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: > Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. > On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >> >>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>> >>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>> Enjoy! >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From cjsims at me.com Mon Jan 2 19:05:26 2012 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:05:26 +1100 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've got it now. Thanks for that. I don't like the way that the whole registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the Melbourne Weather gets to warm. Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 iMessage: cjsims at me.com On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? > > On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: > >> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>> >>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>> >>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>> Enjoy! >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 19:10:15 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:10:15 -0500 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think I saw a link to go get it. Thanks, Courtney On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote: > I've got it now. Thanks for that. I don't like the way that the whole registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the Melbourne Weather gets to warm. > Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 > iMessage: cjsims at me.com > > On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? >> >> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >> >>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Jan 2 19:12:54 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:12:54 +0000 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F0201B6.3080604@techno-chat.net> All, You are best to use the web client as it is more accessible than the mac desktop client. Go to https://myphonedesktop.com and log in with your username and password that you set up on the iOS app. On 02/01/2012 18:49, Christopher Sims wrote: > Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. > On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >> >>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>> >>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>> Enjoy! >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Jan 2 19:13:41 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:13:41 +0000 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F0201E5.6080404@techno-chat.net> Lol same here, in fact if I have had known this app existed then I probably would not have gotten a bluetooth keyboard or two. Mind you they are always handyh when going out, as you certainly don't want to carry around a mac with you lol! On 02/01/2012 18:45, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! > On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: > >> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>> Enjoy! >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 19:17:36 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:17:36 -0600 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <4F0201B6.3080604@techno-chat.net> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <4F0201B6.3080604@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <71E5EC59-50E9-4084-9B35-6101F1FD40A8@gmail.com> That's much better, the application just goes busy on me, and then shows not responding in the dock. On Jan 2, 2012, at 1:12 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > All, > You are best to use the web client as it is more accessible than the mac desktop client. Go to https://myphonedesktop.com and log in with your username and password that you set up on the iOS app. > > On 02/01/2012 18:49, Christopher Sims wrote: >> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>> >>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>> >>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>> Enjoy! >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Mon Jan 2 19:28:45 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:28:45 -0500 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <71E5EC59-50E9-4084-9B35-6101F1FD40A8@gmail.com> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <4F0201B6.3080604@techno-chat.net> <71E5EC59-50E9-4084-9B35-6101F1FD40A8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <190F2C78-37B6-41CF-8F4A-2127F776307A@gmail.com> Hi, I love the web application, another benefit of it is it doesn't take up space on your mac's hard drive because it's all through safari. I do have a question though, can you send messages to specific contacts using this app? Thanks, Courtney On 02/01/2012, at 2:17 in the Afternoon, Thomas McMahan wrote: > That's much better, the application just goes busy on me, and then shows not responding in the dock. > On Jan 2, 2012, at 1:12 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> All, >> You are best to use the web client as it is more accessible than the mac desktop client. Go to https://myphonedesktop.com and log in with your username and password that you set up on the iOS app. >> >> On 02/01/2012 18:49, Christopher Sims wrote: >>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Jan 2 20:31:10 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:31:10 +0000 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <190F2C78-37B6-41CF-8F4A-2127F776307A@gmail.com> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <4F0201B6.3080604@techno-chat.net> <71E5EC59-50E9-4084-9B35-6101F1FD40A8@gmail.com> <190F2C78-37B6-41CF-8F4A-2127F776307A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F02140E.7080306@techno-chat.net> I think you will have to type the contacts' number. This is one of the shortcomings of the web client, since it has no way to access what is stored on either your mac or iOS device. On 02/01/2012 19:28, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I love the web application, another benefit of it is it doesn't take up space on your mac's hard drive because it's all through safari. I do have a question though, can you send messages to specific contacts using this app? > Thanks, > Courtney > On 02/01/2012, at 2:17 in the Afternoon, Thomas McMahan wrote: > >> That's much better, the application just goes busy on me, and then shows not responding in the dock. >> On Jan 2, 2012, at 1:12 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >>> All, >>> You are best to use the web client as it is more accessible than the mac desktop client. Go to https://myphonedesktop.com and log in with your username and password that you set up on the iOS app. >>> >>> On 02/01/2012 18:49, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Jan 2 20:32:22 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:32:22 +0000 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> www.myphonedesktop.com. On 02/01/2012 19:10, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think I saw a link to go get it. > Thanks, > Courtney > On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote: > >> I've got it now. Thanks for that. I don't like the way that the whole registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the Melbourne Weather gets to warm. >> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >> iMessage: cjsims at me.com >> >> On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? >>> >>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From venables134 at btinternet.com Mon Jan 2 20:34:28 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:34:28 +0000 Subject: How to install Espeak for Mac OSX please? Message-ID: <47A875CE-0908-4A6D-816E-B47D9A2E18BA@btinternet.com> Hi all, I'm not 100% sure that there is a version of it for Mac but going to http://espeak.sourceforge.net/download.html I found a Mac OSX version of it. Basically I want to install it and I don't know how. When downloading the file which is a .ZIP extension in there, I would expect to find the .app extension so I could just copy and past it into my apps folder but there wasn't such a thing in there. So if anyone knows how to do this, I would be grateful if they could give step by step instructions so I can do it to. Or if I'm dreaming about this synth being on Mac OSX then someone please put me out of my misery by telling me that it isn't supported. LOL Thanks Daniel From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Jan 2 22:52:50 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:52:50 +0000 Subject: Adaptive Trivia In-Reply-To: <4EA57D66.50807@techno-chat.net> References: <4EA57D66.50807@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <6BBF14DD-2442-4536-B312-B662AB598387@googlemail.com> Hi, got this game. Gosh it's clever the way it thinks. the questions are rock hard though smiley. Ian McNamara From cjsims at me.com Mon Jan 2 23:26:07 2012 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:26:07 +1100 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <4F0201B6.3080604@techno-chat.net> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <4F0201B6.3080604@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Ok Thanks for that bit of information Chris. On 03/01/2012, at 6:12 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > All, > You are best to use the web client as it is more accessible than the mac desktop client. Go to https://myphonedesktop.com and log in with your username and password that you set up on the iOS app. > > On 02/01/2012 18:49, Christopher Sims wrote: >> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>> >>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>> >>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>> Enjoy! >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Tue Jan 3 00:21:30 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:21:30 -0500 Subject: turning PDF into text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47CB2D09-78FC-437C-BBC7-B77308B6331B@softcon.com> If your pdf files are already text, and you just want a text version of the pdf, then just command-a to highlight the whole document, then open text edit, and paste in the text. Thhat's all there is to it. Of course, there's caveats (isn't there always) First, the pdf file must be text, obviously images won't work. Well, more precisely, they will work, but you won't get text, just the image in question. Secondly, the pdf must not be protected, or the text won't copy. Of course, there's ways around that too, but those are off topic for this list, so won't be mentioned here. So, there you go, If you're wanting to convert pdf files with images into text, then you can use something like read iris pro (there's a free version, but there's other products too, as already mentioned in this thread. hth. From tsiegel at softcon.com Tue Jan 3 00:44:16 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:44:16 -0500 Subject: burning photos on the mac In-Reply-To: <4efedd24.a167e30a.03ad.0c70@mx.google.com> References: <4efedd24.a167e30a.03ad.0c70@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <929C0399-680D-4371-ABD5-6FADE97DC2F8@softcon.com> All you need to do is highlight the folder, then vo-shift-m on it to bring up the context menu. Go down to burn folder, and you're all set. Failing that, use the file menu, burn to disk is one of the options there. hth. From motten53 at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 00:44:43 2012 From: motten53 at gmail.com (Mary Otten) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:44:43 -0800 Subject: Adaptive Trivia In-Reply-To: <6BBF14DD-2442-4536-B312-B662AB598387@googlemail.com> References: <4EA57D66.50807@techno-chat.net> <6BBF14DD-2442-4536-B312-B662AB598387@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ian, Where did you find this app? I checked the Mac app store and found nothing with that title. Is this an IOS or a Mac app? Mary Mary Otten motten53 at gmail.com From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jan 3 00:53:51 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 00:53:51 +0000 Subject: Adaptive Trivia In-Reply-To: References: <4EA57D66.50807@techno-chat.net> <6BBF14DD-2442-4536-B312-B662AB598387@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <675ACFEE-201E-40A3-92B8-5B0C1937C088@googlemail.com> Hi, it's an app for the Ios devices, it's brilliant. Ian McNamara From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 01:25:01 2012 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:25:01 -0500 Subject: Adaptive Trivia In-Reply-To: References: <4EA57D66.50807@techno-chat.net> <6BBF14DD-2442-4536-B312-B662AB598387@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Here's the link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/adaptive-trivia/id342853481?mt=8 On Jan 2, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Ian, Where did you find this app? I checked the Mac app store and found nothing with that title. Is this an IOS or a Mac app? Mary Mary Otten motten53 at gmail.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From opensesame at me.com Tue Jan 3 01:26:19 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:26:19 -0500 Subject: Adaptive Trivia In-Reply-To: <675ACFEE-201E-40A3-92B8-5B0C1937C088@googlemail.com> References: <4EA57D66.50807@techno-chat.net> <6BBF14DD-2442-4536-B312-B662AB598387@googlemail.com> <675ACFEE-201E-40A3-92B8-5B0C1937C088@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <6D29B664-E53E-472E-98EF-60874B663ADF@me.com> Here's the US IOS App store link... I haven't tried the app, but looks like the basic install is free and there's some sort of in-app purchase available. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/adaptive-trivia/id342853481?mt=8 HTH Bryan From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 01:35:12 2012 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:35:12 -0500 Subject: Which contact Cleaner? In-Reply-To: <0LX6009HDGAXY6C3@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0LX6009HDGAXY6C3@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: I have deleteq and it is completely accessible. I don't have the other one so can't compare. On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: Hi, Folks. Have been reading about Deleteq and ContactCleaner. They both sound good, but has anyone had the chance to compare the two apps? Would like to know before I plunk down some money and buy one of these. Most important, which one is more accessible? Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 03:02:38 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:02:38 -0800 Subject: How to install Espeak for Mac OSX please? In-Reply-To: <47A875CE-0908-4A6D-816E-B47D9A2E18BA@btinternet.com> References: <47A875CE-0908-4A6D-816E-B47D9A2E18BA@btinternet.com> Message-ID: You probably need to do some terminal work but how to get it in to the voice over thing I would not know. lol! Take care. On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > Hi all, I'm not 100% sure that there is a version of it for Mac but going to > http://espeak.sourceforge.net/download.html > > I found a Mac OSX version of it. Basically I want to install it and I don't know how. When downloading the file which is a .ZIP extension in there, I would expect to find the .app extension so I could just copy and past it into my apps folder but there wasn't such a thing in there. > So if anyone knows how to do this, I would be grateful if they could give step by step instructions so I can do it to. Or if I'm dreaming about this synth being on Mac OSX then someone please put me out of my misery by telling me that it isn't supported. LOL > > Thanks > > Daniel > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Tue Jan 3 03:23:36 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 14:23:36 +1100 Subject: Adaptive Trivia In-Reply-To: <6BBF14DD-2442-4536-B312-B662AB598387@googlemail.com> References: <4EA57D66.50807@techno-chat.net> <6BBF14DD-2442-4536-B312-B662AB598387@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <0B07CF78-60A7-44BF-BCA8-70047549166E@bluebottle.com> they sure are lol On 03/01/2012, at 9:52 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi, got this game. Gosh it's clever the way it thinks. the questions are rock hard though smiley. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jan 3 05:06:23 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 05:06:23 +0000 Subject: google docks. Message-ID: <7D3D95AE-96A7-4969-8481-B4E6FC5F7EF8@googlemail.com> Hi all, has any one tried google docks with voice Over and if so how well does it work to do a document with someone. Ian McNamara From moriond at mac.com Tue Jan 3 13:00:01 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 08:00:01 -0500 Subject: How to install Espeak for Mac OSX please? In-Reply-To: References: <47A875CE-0908-4A6D-816E-B47D9A2E18BA@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <61443485-E605-4E30-813F-F7F2FED8634A@mac.com> Hi Daniel, If you downloaded a file with .zip extension, did you try double-clicking on it to unpack it? That's pretty standard for unpacking software distributed as .zip, which should be the first step. I remember that Greg Kearney wrote an eSpeak installer for the Mac, and you can find this at: http://www.cucat.org/projects/espeak/ But I found that reference by searching the Mail Archive, and the post that announced that site was made in 2008!: ? eSpeak for MacOS improvements http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss at macvisionaries.com/msg32311.html As far as I know, eSpeak never existed as an application. You had to compile and install it, and even then you could only route items you wanted spoken with text-to-speech, such as by using a unix pipe from the Terminal command line. As Sarah remarked, it was mainly used from a Terminal interface. It's probably possible to use Automator's ability to run shell scripts to make using this from a GUI interface easier. I've never looked into using eSpeak at all, myself. Greg was mostly interested in this for the ability to add support for creating talking books in languages that still weren't supported, and didn't separately keep up with the status of the app. You're far better off starting with the current .zip file, and seeing where you get to. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 2, 2012, at 22:02, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You probably need to do some terminal work but how to get it in to the voice over thing I would not know. lol! > > Take care. > On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > >> Hi all, I'm not 100% sure that there is a version of it for Mac but going to >> http://espeak.sourceforge.net/download.html >> >> I found a Mac OSX version of it. Basically I want to install it and I don't know how. When downloading the file which is a .ZIP extension in there, I would expect to find the .app extension so I could just copy and past it into my apps folder but there wasn't such a thing in there. >> So if anyone knows how to do this, I would be grateful if they could give step by step instructions so I can do it to. Or if I'm dreaming about this synth being on Mac OSX then someone please put me out of my misery by telling me that it isn't supported. LOL >> >> Thanks >> >> Daniel From weavermicha at googlemail.com Tue Jan 3 14:29:04 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:29:04 +0000 Subject: telephone calls on the i-phone Message-ID: <4f030dc0.0c4cb40a.7469.7886@mx.google.com> someone mentioned a problem that caused my problem with call switching might be due to a case which has been badly fitted. i don't know if this is the problem or not and i am not sure if this is classed as a case exactly or just a cover but my i-phone 4 has two plastic bits front and back which clip over the i-phone. i am beginning to wonder if this is just classed as a cover and whether the fact this is something which could be causing my problem even though i think i have fitted this properly. the phone is clipped in between these two pieces of plastic with a cut out for the home button. i notice that people mention having other designed cases and whether just the fact i have these two plastic bits might be the reason why i might be having that prroblem and that perhaps a different case is needed because holding it by this plastic might be still affecting the proximity sensor. i have not tried any of the silicone cases that have been mentioned etc or whether such a case needs to be fitted over what i already have in order to resolve that problem. maybe someone more technically minded than me might have to explain whether or not i should be fitting a different case over what i already have or whether i need to remove the plastic case and replace it with a better case? From opensesame at me.com Tue Jan 3 14:32:12 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:32:12 -0500 Subject: telephone calls on the i-phone In-Reply-To: <4f030dc0.0c4cb40a.7469.7886@mx.google.com> References: <4f030dc0.0c4cb40a.7469.7886@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Hi Michael, My first troubleshooting suggestion would be to completely remove all cases and just use the iPhone without a case for a while. If your particular problem goes away then I'd say there's a good chance this particular problem was caused by the case. HTH, Bryan On Jan 3, 2012, at 9:29 AM, michael weaver wrote: > someone mentioned a problem that caused my problem with call switching might be due to a case which has been badly fitted. From juanitatighan at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 15:12:07 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:12:07 -0500 Subject: google docks. In-Reply-To: <7D3D95AE-96A7-4969-8481-B4E6FC5F7EF8@googlemail.com> References: <7D3D95AE-96A7-4969-8481-B4E6FC5F7EF8@googlemail.com> Message-ID: I use Google Docs with Google Chrome and Chrome Vox. I view and sometimes edit documents with my husband. Nice way of keping track of the budget. Jane On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:06 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi all, has any one tried google docks with voice Over and if so how well does it work to do a document with someone. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 15:49:21 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:49:21 -0500 Subject: Multiple Clipboards for iPad Message-ID: <22234977-99D4-4DDA-B1A0-0ED1F039B9F5@gmail.com> I'm curious if there's any way to have multiple clipboards for the iPad? There's text in one file that I want to copy to one clipboard, paste somewhere and have go away. Then I want to be able to paste from another clipboard and have that clipboard cleared. Any apps for this that are accessible? Jane From venables134 at btinternet.com Tue Jan 3 16:52:10 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:52:10 +0000 Subject: How to install Espeak for Mac OSX please? In-Reply-To: <61443485-E605-4E30-813F-F7F2FED8634A@mac.com> References: <47A875CE-0908-4A6D-816E-B47D9A2E18BA@btinternet.com> <61443485-E605-4E30-813F-F7F2FED8634A@mac.com> Message-ID: Hello Esther, no I didn't do that purely because I don't know how to. Could you tell me how to do this? Since you asked me I did some research on it and I came up with the command VO Shift Space. I do this and VO says "No row selected". I also tried the command VO Shift F5 which I believe moves the mouse to the VO cerser then did the same command but no luck still. If you could take the time at all and download it and see what you come up with I would really be grateful. I'm still a bit of a beginner with the .zip extension. Just do a google search for speak and it should be the 1st result click on that bring up the VO item choser menu with VO I type in download go to that link and on the next page there should be an Espeak version with it saying Mac OSX at the end. If you don't get any where then please let me know that. Thanks Daniel On 3 Jan 2012, at 13:00, Esther wrote: > Esther From terrycooper10 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 3 17:15:28 2012 From: terrycooper10 at hotmail.com (Terry Cooper) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 17:15:28 +0000 Subject: delivery report on the iphone Message-ID: Hi all Can you get delivery reports on the iphone when sending text messages? If you can, then how do you make it so? Thanks. Terry From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 18:18:17 2012 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas rudolph) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 12:18:17 -0600 Subject: telephone calls on the i-phone In-Reply-To: <4f030dc0.0c4cb40a.7469.7886@mx.google.com> References: <4f030dc0.0c4cb40a.7469.7886@mx.google.com> Message-ID: hey, i would say it very likeley could be the case doing it... i have a very basic defender rubber sylicone case from best buy, and i have no problems with the proximaty sensor..:D This email may contain personal identifyable information. Copy, relay, redistributions, and or reading of these emails is strictly prohibited, unless you are the intended recipiant of this email, and this intended recipiant only. If this is not the intended recipiant, then you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify sender. Douglas Rudolph Tel: 1306-565-2056 Cell: 1306-450-0153 Email: doug.cam3 at gmail.com direct to my cel: doug.cam at me.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael weaver" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:29 AM Subject: telephone calls on the i-phone > someone mentioned a problem that caused my problem with call switching > might be due to a case which has been badly fitted. > i don't know if this is the problem or not and i am not sure if this is > classed as a case exactly or just a cover but my i-phone 4 has two plastic > bits front and back which clip over the i-phone. > i am beginning to wonder if this is just classed as a cover and whether > the fact this is something which could be causing my problem even though i > think i have fitted this properly. > the phone is clipped in between these two pieces of plastic with a cut out > for the home button. > i notice that people mention having other designed cases and whether just > the fact i have these two plastic bits might be the reason why i might be > having that prroblem and that perhaps a different case is needed because > holding it by this plastic might be still affecting the proximity sensor. > i have not tried any of the silicone cases that have been mentioned etc or > whether such a case needs to be fitted over what i already have in order > to resolve that problem. > maybe someone more technically minded than me might have to explain > whether or not i should be fitting a different case over what i already > have or whether i need to remove the plastic case and replace it with a > better case? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Tue Jan 3 18:42:55 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:42:55 -0800 Subject: email getting around Message-ID: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> HI there. Can someone tell me how to get from the top to bottom of a mailbox or even paging down? I tried fn down arrow and that did not work. THanks. Oh and why does saffari get busy sometimes and take forever to load or never load the page? Thanks. Lovette From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 18:55:23 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:55:23 -0800 Subject: email getting around In-Reply-To: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> References: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> Message-ID: You need to hit option up and down arow to get to thetop and bottom althrough I think they broke that in lion. so for now interact with the table and use vo shift home and end. On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > HI there. Can someone tell me how to get from the top to bottom of a mailbox or even paging down? > I tried fn down arrow and that did not work. > THanks. > Oh and why does saffari get busy sometimes and take forever to load or never load the page? > Thanks. > Lovette > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 18:56:26 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:56:26 -0800 Subject: delivery report on the iphone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just flick left really quickly after you hear the sent sound. it will flash. there for a few seconds. Good luck. On Jan 3, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Terry Cooper wrote: > Hi all > > Can you get delivery reports on the iphone when sending text messages? If > you can, then how do you make it so? > > Thanks. > > Terry > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Tue Jan 3 19:19:01 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 11:19:01 -0800 Subject: email getting around In-Reply-To: References: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> Message-ID: what would be that on a lap top? THanks On 2012-01-03, at 10:55 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You need to hit option up and down arow to get to thetop and bottom althrough I think they broke that in lion. so for now interact with the table and use vo shift home and end. > On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > >> HI there. Can someone tell me how to get from the top to bottom of a mailbox or even paging down? >> I tried fn down arrow and that did not work. >> THanks. >> Oh and why does saffari get busy sometimes and take forever to load or never load the page? >> Thanks. >> Lovette >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 19:53:30 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:53:30 -0600 Subject: email getting around In-Reply-To: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> References: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> Message-ID: <996C7356-86D7-49E5-A5CB-252BE94285EA@gmail.com> You need to find the equalivant of home and end keys, then do v o end to drop immediately down to bottom of page or window. Home with the vo keys will take you to top immediately. I think it involves the function key also, but don't think it's the arrows strangely enough. Don't know for sure because I've always used a full sized keyboard, my only laptop experience is with a Windows unit. On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > HI there. Can someone tell me how to get from the top to bottom of a mailbox or even paging down? > I tried fn down arrow and that did not work. > THanks. > Oh and why does saffari get busy sometimes and take forever to load or never load the page? > Thanks. > Lovette > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 20:15:58 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 12:15:58 -0800 Subject: email getting around In-Reply-To: References: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> Message-ID: <91882AD9-44EE-47A6-BE7A-AC450EE5F764@gmail.com> I gave it I thin. Actually you did lol! it's vo shift fn right and left for end and home respectivally. and fn up and down is pg up and pg dn. Take care. On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > what would be that on a lap top? > THanks > > On 2012-01-03, at 10:55 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> You need to hit option up and down arow to get to thetop and bottom althrough I think they broke that in lion. so for now interact with the table and use vo shift home and end. >> On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: >> >>> HI there. Can someone tell me how to get from the top to bottom of a mailbox or even paging down? >>> I tried fn down arrow and that did not work. >>> THanks. >>> Oh and why does saffari get busy sometimes and take forever to load or never load the page? >>> Thanks. >>> Lovette >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Tue Jan 3 20:20:02 2012 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 20:20:02 +0000 Subject: email getting around In-Reply-To: <996C7356-86D7-49E5-A5CB-252BE94285EA@gmail.com> References: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> <996C7356-86D7-49E5-A5CB-252BE94285EA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Lovette! To do this use! FN+vo+shift+either left or right arrows! hth Colin On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:53, Thomas McMahan wrote: > You need to find the equalivant of home and end keys, then do v o end to drop immediately down to bottom of page or window. Home with the vo keys will take you to top immediately. I think it involves the function key also, but don't think it's the arrows strangely enough. Don't know for sure because I've always used a full sized keyboard, my only laptop experience is with a Windows unit. > On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > >> HI there. Can someone tell me how to get from the top to bottom of a mailbox or even paging down? >> I tried fn down arrow and that did not work. >> THanks. >> Oh and why does saffari get busy sometimes and take forever to load or never load the page? >> Thanks. >> Lovette >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Tue Jan 3 21:01:01 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:01:01 -0800 Subject: email getting around In-Reply-To: References: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> <996C7356-86D7-49E5-A5CB-252BE94285EA@gmail.com> Message-ID: when I try this I get other things about mailboxs is there a setting I should have in mail? It use to work differently and I don't know what settings were changed or what settings work best in mail. Thanks. Lovette On 2012-01-03, at 12:20 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Lovette! > To do this use! > FN+vo+shift+either left or right arrows! > hth Colin > > On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:53, Thomas McMahan wrote: > >> You need to find the equalivant of home and end keys, then do v o end to drop immediately down to bottom of page or window. Home with the vo keys will take you to top immediately. I think it involves the function key also, but don't think it's the arrows strangely enough. Don't know for sure because I've always used a full sized keyboard, my only laptop experience is with a Windows unit. >> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: >> >>> HI there. Can someone tell me how to get from the top to bottom of a mailbox or even paging down? >>> I tried fn down arrow and that did not work. >>> THanks. >>> Oh and why does saffari get busy sometimes and take forever to load or never load the page? >>> Thanks. >>> Lovette >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 21:06:53 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:06:53 -0800 Subject: email getting around In-Reply-To: References: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> <996C7356-86D7-49E5-A5CB-252BE94285EA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8306DE7D-3C7B-4438-8393-DE32F85DD2D1@gmail.com> You need to interact wiht the mail message list table and then try the key strokes. or interact with the message text. When in doubt interact. On Jan 3, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > when I try this I get other things about mailboxs is there a setting I should have in mail? It use to work differently and I don't know what settings were changed or what settings work best in mail. > Thanks. > Lovette > > On 2012-01-03, at 12:20 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > >> Hi Lovette! >> To do this use! >> FN+vo+shift+either left or right arrows! >> hth Colin >> >> On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:53, Thomas McMahan wrote: >> >>> You need to find the equalivant of home and end keys, then do v o end to drop immediately down to bottom of page or window. Home with the vo keys will take you to top immediately. I think it involves the function key also, but don't think it's the arrows strangely enough. Don't know for sure because I've always used a full sized keyboard, my only laptop experience is with a Windows unit. >>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: >>> >>>> HI there. Can someone tell me how to get from the top to bottom of a mailbox or even paging down? >>>> I tried fn down arrow and that did not work. >>>> THanks. >>>> Oh and why does saffari get busy sometimes and take forever to load or never load the page? >>>> Thanks. >>>> Lovette >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From caitlyn.furness at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 21:21:29 2012 From: caitlyn.furness at gmail.com (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:21:29 -0500 Subject: Adaptive Trivia In-Reply-To: References: <4EA57D66.50807@techno-chat.net> <6BBF14DD-2442-4536-B312-B662AB598387@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4CC47DF8-AD10-4A79-9482-5A21AF8FDB44@gmail.com> I couldn't get it to let me make a choice-is this the one where you can speak your answer? Maybe I'm getting it mixed with another game? I do have this one, just haven't tried to play it in a long time.. Thanks, Caitlyn On Jan 2, 2012, at 8:25 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Here's the link: > > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/adaptive-trivia/id342853481?mt=8 > > On Jan 2, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Hi Ian, > Where did you find this app? I checked the Mac app store and found nothing with that title. Is this an IOS or a Mac app? > > Mary > > Mary Otten > motten53 at gmail.com > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > -- > Marcy > marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Tue Jan 3 21:38:38 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:38:38 -0800 Subject: email getting around In-Reply-To: <8306DE7D-3C7B-4438-8393-DE32F85DD2D1@gmail.com> References: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> <996C7356-86D7-49E5-A5CB-252BE94285EA@gmail.com> <8306DE7D-3C7B-4438-8393-DE32F85DD2D1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <08BAAD09-F995-450A-A7F7-F529ABD71633@telus.net> I must have a setting wrong as it still doesn't work sometimes it spells things instead or still moves me to other options for mailboxes. I tried interacting too. Thanks anyway. Lovette On 2012-01-03, at 1:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You need to interact wiht the mail message list table and then try the key strokes. or interact with the message text. When in doubt interact. > On Jan 3, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > >> when I try this I get other things about mailboxs is there a setting I should have in mail? It use to work differently and I don't know what settings were changed or what settings work best in mail. >> Thanks. >> Lovette >> >> On 2012-01-03, at 12:20 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: >> >>> Hi Lovette! >>> To do this use! >>> FN+vo+shift+either left or right arrows! >>> hth Colin >>> >>> On 3 Jan 2012, at 19:53, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>> >>>> You need to find the equalivant of home and end keys, then do v o end to drop immediately down to bottom of page or window. Home with the vo keys will take you to top immediately. I think it involves the function key also, but don't think it's the arrows strangely enough. Don't know for sure because I've always used a full sized keyboard, my only laptop experience is with a Windows unit. >>>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: >>>> >>>>> HI there. Can someone tell me how to get from the top to bottom of a mailbox or even paging down? >>>>> I tried fn down arrow and that did not work. >>>>> THanks. >>>>> Oh and why does saffari get busy sometimes and take forever to load or never load the page? >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> Lovette >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 21:59:34 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:59:34 -0500 Subject: Terminal In-Reply-To: <6CF5339E-0EDE-4518-93C1-A329DE42FB31@swbell.net> References: <013201ccc48c$15f4ebe0$41dec3a0$@gmail.com> <007501ccc553$33363610$99a2a230$@gmail.com> <6CA4010E-1E1E-4EE2-8EF7-7DD277FB5248@gmail.com> <84F0C749-78BD-4FD4-925F-2DF74DB158D2@gmail.com> <88887CB5-23F1-422C-B3CB-80E9374BB01A@me.com> <4EFE61ED.70704@haffar.ca> <6CF5339E-0EDE-4518-93C1-A329DE42FB31@swbell.net> Message-ID: <7387F8D6-6D1F-4D25-946B-B5E5DAED032E@gmail.com> When you open Terminal, can you begin to type a command at that point? Do you need any starting or ending characters of any kind. When done typing the command, do you simply press enter? How do you know if what you did is valid? Will Terminal give you any kind of indication such as an error message? On Dec 30, 2011, at 8:29 PM, michael maslo wrote: > Try voiceofaustralia.org or www.macfortheblind.com > > On Dec 30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Kamal Haffar wrote: > >> On 30/12/2011 4:50 PM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>> Hi. Yes that is an iMac. >>> On 30/12/2011, at 7:03 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything is in teh moniter. Is that the IMac? >>>> >>>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like I do back and forth across campus, an air might be for you >>>> On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote: >>>> >>>>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug. >>>>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I had heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what you are saying was true, but not anymore. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" >>>>> To: "'Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility'" >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM >>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is a monitor >>>>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I have seen >>>>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused adaptor >>>>>> plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand experience of this >>>>>> though so I cannot swear to it. >>>>>> >>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>>>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07 >>>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't you now need a monitor to run a mac mini? I've heard that's now the >>>>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have everything in >>>>>> the monitor including usb and mic jacks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care. >>>>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac but >>>>>>> very good space saving desktop! JST ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM >>>>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I would >>>>>>> suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need a screen, or >>>>>>> like having more than one monitor. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM >>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the MacBook >>>>>>>> Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop replacement then >>>>>>>> look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If wanting something very >>>>>>>> light and portable but not as powerful look at the Mac book air 13 >>>>>>>> inch model. JMT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM >>>>>>>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hey all, >>>>>>>> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering >>>>>>>> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I want >>>>>>>> faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on what route I >>>>>>>> should go. Any suggestions as to what MacBook model you'd suggest, >>>>>>>> and the reasons for the suggestion, would be great. >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>>> at >>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>>> the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>>> the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> Hello everyone: >> Any recommendations for a tutorial or a resource for a new Mac/Voiceover user? I went through the VoiceOver tutorial at start up and that was helpful to get me started. I am able to get around the system and browsing but I am sure I am not using VoiceOver efficiently. >> >> >> Holiday cheers, >> >> Thank you, >> >> Kamal >> >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From rattail4 at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 00:30:44 2012 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 19:30:44 -0500 Subject: voiceover on IPhone 3gs 8 gig Message-ID: Hey all, I remember once hearing that IPhone 3gs 8 gig didn't support voiceover, well I can say that's not true at all. My gf just got her's today running IOS 5 and voiceover works like a charm. Also it's very very quick unlike what others have said. Wasn't sure if anyone else realized this or not so thought I'd pass it along. From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 01:14:37 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 17:14:37 -0800 Subject: Terminal In-Reply-To: <7387F8D6-6D1F-4D25-946B-B5E5DAED032E@gmail.com> References: <013201ccc48c$15f4ebe0$41dec3a0$@gmail.com> <007501ccc553$33363610$99a2a230$@gmail.com> <6CA4010E-1E1E-4EE2-8EF7-7DD277FB5248@gmail.com> <84F0C749-78BD-4FD4-925F-2DF74DB158D2@gmail.com> <88887CB5-23F1-422C-B3CB-80E9374BB01A@me.com> <4EFE61ED.70704@haffar.ca> <6CF5339E-0EDE-4518-93C1-A329DE42FB31@swbell.net> <7387F8D6-6D1F-4D25-946B-B5E5DAED032E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6CEDF3FC-92AD-4D2A-8C0B-2D02CC4F81B5@gmail.com> If you are back at the prompt and don't hear anything you did it correctly. if you hear an error then try again. simply start typkng when you get there. and hit enter to end the comand sequence. On Jan 3, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > When you open Terminal, can you begin to type a command at that point? Do you need any starting or ending characters of any kind. When done typing the command, do you simply press enter? How do you know if what you did is valid? Will Terminal give you any kind of indication such as an error message? > > > On Dec 30, 2011, at 8:29 PM, michael maslo wrote: > >> Try voiceofaustralia.org or www.macfortheblind.com >> >> On Dec 30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Kamal Haffar wrote: >> >>> On 30/12/2011 4:50 PM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>> Hi. Yes that is an iMac. >>>> On 30/12/2011, at 7:03 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything is in teh moniter. Is that the IMac? >>>>> >>>>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like I do back and forth across campus, an air might be for you >>>>> On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug. >>>>>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I had heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what you are saying was true, but not anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" >>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM >>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is a monitor >>>>>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I have seen >>>>>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused adaptor >>>>>>> plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand experience of this >>>>>>> though so I cannot swear to it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>>>>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07 >>>>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't you now need a monitor to run a mac mini? I've heard that's now the >>>>>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have everything in >>>>>>> the monitor including usb and mic jacks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac but >>>>>>>> very good space saving desktop! JST ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM >>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I would >>>>>>>> suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need a screen, or >>>>>>>> like having more than one monitor. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the MacBook >>>>>>>>> Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop replacement then >>>>>>>>> look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If wanting something very >>>>>>>>> light and portable but not as powerful look at the Mac book air 13 >>>>>>>>> inch model. JMT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM >>>>>>>>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hey all, >>>>>>>>> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering >>>>>>>>> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I want >>>>>>>>> faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on what route I >>>>>>>>> should go. Any suggestions as to what MacBook model you'd suggest, >>>>>>>>> and the reasons for the suggestion, would be great. >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>>>> the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>>>> the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> Hello everyone: >>> Any recommendations for a tutorial or a resource for a new Mac/Voiceover user? I went through the VoiceOver tutorial at start up and that was helpful to get me started. I am able to get around the system and browsing but I am sure I am not using VoiceOver efficiently. >>> >>> >>> Holiday cheers, >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Kamal >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 02:51:10 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 21:51:10 -0500 Subject: getting my hotmail account to work properly with apple mail Message-ID: <07F87978-6CCE-4B48-91E6-C48072237541@gmail.com> Hi, I'd like to get my hotmail account to actually delete my messages across all of my macs when I go to it with mac mail. I can do this under ios by making hotmail an exchange account, but unfortunately, this doesn't work with the mac. I guess what I'm asking is can hotmail be set up as imap on the mac, like gmail, and actually delete the messages in my inbox across my macs and on the server? Thanks, Courtney Sent from my macbook air From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 03:52:55 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 19:52:55 -0800 Subject: getting my hotmail account to work properly with apple mail In-Reply-To: <07F87978-6CCE-4B48-91E6-C48072237541@gmail.com> References: <07F87978-6CCE-4B48-91E6-C48072237541@gmail.com> Message-ID: <121D5BDA-3549-408D-82B8-868A791FCFFC@gmail.com> I believe hotmail is pop3 exclusive so I really don't know. There might be a way to delete messages off the server once deleted but I have not used pop3 in about 4 or so years so I'm not an expert in that subject. Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jan 3, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to get my hotmail account to actually delete my messages across all of my macs when I go to it with mac mail. I can do this under ios by making hotmail an exchange account, but unfortunately, this doesn't work with the mac. I guess what I'm asking is can hotmail be set up as imap on the mac, like gmail, and actually delete the messages in my inbox across my macs and on the server? > Thanks, > Courtney > > > Sent from my macbook air > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hannahday2009 at googlemail.com Wed Jan 4 07:59:15 2012 From: hannahday2009 at googlemail.com (hannah day) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:59:15 +0000 Subject: voiceover on IPhone 3gs 8 gig In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F0406D3.1080204@googlemail.com> HI I have a 3 gs and i can say it also works like a treat hope she enjoys it chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2009 at googlemail.com MSN hannahday1989 at hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannahday Twitter: hannahday2009 On 04/01/2012 00:30, Mike Welty wrote: > Hey all, > I remember once hearing that IPhone 3gs 8 gig didn't support voiceover, well I can say that's not true at all. My gf just got her's today running IOS 5 and voiceover works like a charm. Also it's very very quick unlike what others have said. > Wasn't sure if anyone else realized this or not so thought I'd pass it along. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gordonkeen at googlemail.com Wed Jan 4 08:51:41 2012 From: gordonkeen at googlemail.com (Gordon Keen) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 08:51:41 +0000 Subject: email getting around In-Reply-To: <08BAAD09-F995-450A-A7F7-F529ABD71633@telus.net> References: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> <996C7356-86D7-49E5-A5CB-252BE94285EA@gmail.com> <8306DE7D-3C7B-4438-8393-DE32F85DD2D1@gmail.com> <08BAAD09-F995-450A-A7F7-F529ABD71633@telus.net> Message-ID: <07103572-2D70-4D8D-A27C-7E056A5A03A3@googlemail.com> Hi Have you checked that quick nav is turned off? Hit left and right arrows simultaneously to toggle between on and off. hth G From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. On 3 Jan 2012, at 21:38, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > I must have a setting wrong as it still doesn't work sometimes it spells things instead or still moves me to other options for mailboxes. > I tried interacting too. From godfearer at comcast.net Wed Jan 4 09:29:05 2012 From: godfearer at comcast.net (Robert Wright) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 02:29:05 -0700 Subject: voiceover on IPhone 3gs 8 gig References: Message-ID: <870FD3448AC24DD48EB7C8646468953A@lapwright> they just recently added it to the 8gig iPhone. Last year at this time voiceover was not available on the 8gig phone. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Welty" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: voiceover on IPhone 3gs 8 gig > Hey all, > I remember once hearing that IPhone 3gs 8 gig didn't support voiceover, > well I can say that's not true at all. My gf just got her's today running > IOS 5 and voiceover works like a charm. Also it's very very quick unlike > what others have said. > Wasn't sure if anyone else realized this or not so thought I'd pass it > along. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Wed Jan 4 10:23:32 2012 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 21:23:32 +1100 Subject: Terminal In-Reply-To: <7387F8D6-6D1F-4D25-946B-B5E5DAED032E@gmail.com> References: <013201ccc48c$15f4ebe0$41dec3a0$@gmail.com> <007501ccc553$33363610$99a2a230$@gmail.com> <6CA4010E-1E1E-4EE2-8EF7-7DD277FB5248@gmail.com> <84F0C749-78BD-4FD4-925F-2DF74DB158D2@gmail.com> <88887CB5-23F1-422C-B3CB-80E9374BB01A@me.com> <4EFE61ED.70704@haffar.ca> <6CF5339E-0EDE-4518-93C1-A329DE42FB31@swbell.net> <7387F8D6-6D1F-4D25-946B-B5E5DAED032E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2037459B-D46E-4758-BAED-225325A515D5@bigpond.net.au> Hi, It depends on the command you enter on what output you get. If you do an error. The shell will tell you. Such as: ls this will list all the files in the current directory. Cheers Sean On 04/01/2012, at 8:59 AM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > When you open Terminal, can you begin to type a command at that point? Do you need any starting or ending characters of any kind. When done typing the command, do you simply press enter? How do you know if what you did is valid? Will Terminal give you any kind of indication such as an error message? > > > On Dec 30, 2011, at 8:29 PM, michael maslo wrote: > >> Try voiceofaustralia.org or www.macfortheblind.com >> >> On Dec 30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Kamal Haffar wrote: >> >>> On 30/12/2011 4:50 PM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>> Hi. Yes that is an iMac. >>>> On 30/12/2011, at 7:03 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything is in teh moniter. Is that the IMac? >>>>> >>>>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like I do back and forth across campus, an air might be for you >>>>> On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug. >>>>>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I had heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what you are saying was true, but not anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" >>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM >>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is a monitor >>>>>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I have seen >>>>>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused adaptor >>>>>>> plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand experience of this >>>>>>> though so I cannot swear to it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>>>>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07 >>>>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't you now need a monitor to run a mac mini? I've heard that's now the >>>>>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have everything in >>>>>>> the monitor including usb and mic jacks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac but >>>>>>>> very good space saving desktop! JST ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM >>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I would >>>>>>>> suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need a screen, or >>>>>>>> like having more than one monitor. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the MacBook >>>>>>>>> Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop replacement then >>>>>>>>> look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If wanting something very >>>>>>>>> light and portable but not as powerful look at the Mac book air 13 >>>>>>>>> inch model. JMT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM >>>>>>>>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hey all, >>>>>>>>> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering >>>>>>>>> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I want >>>>>>>>> faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on what route I >>>>>>>>> should go. Any suggestions as to what MacBook model you'd suggest, >>>>>>>>> and the reasons for the suggestion, would be great. >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! 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>>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> Hello everyone: >>> Any recommendations for a tutorial or a resource for a new Mac/Voiceover user? I went through the VoiceOver tutorial at start up and that was helpful to get me started. I am able to get around the system and browsing but I am sure I am not using VoiceOver efficiently. >>> >>> >>> Holiday cheers, >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Kamal >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Wed Jan 4 12:31:34 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:31:34 +0000 Subject: Has alert, what does this mean? Message-ID: <4F0446A6.9060500@techno-chat.net> Hello all. Please can I ask, on an iPhone 4 running iOS 5.0.1, what the heck does the words, "has alert" mean? Asking as I had it in the messages app. It has now disappeared. Thanks! From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Wed Jan 4 13:08:42 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:08:42 +0000 Subject: voiceover on IPhone 3gs 8 gig In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F044F5A.1050708@techno-chat.net> Are you all not getting this confused with the iPod 3G 8 GB? I ran into the same confusion myself. On 04/01/2012 00:30, Mike Welty wrote: > Hey all, > I remember once hearing that IPhone 3gs 8 gig didn't support voiceover, well I can say that's not true at all. My gf just got her's today running IOS 5 and voiceover works like a charm. Also it's very very quick unlike what others have said. > Wasn't sure if anyone else realized this or not so thought I'd pass it along. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From opensesame at me.com Wed Jan 4 13:35:22 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:35:22 -0500 Subject: Two questions for iPhone 4S owners who've used either Siri or a keyboard case to speed up text entry Message-ID: <9A04E0CF-8ECA-48B4-A095-6FCB71C26DF3@me.com> Hi All, I have a friend who is considering switching from her Nokia smartphone to the iPhone 4S; However, she is a heavy texter and is hesitant to give up the Nokia's built-in physical keyboard. My two questions for Users of the iPhone 4S are: 1. Can you use Siri to create text messages including punctuation? If yes, have you been satisfied with your ability to text in this way? 2. Are you using a keyboard case combo with your iPhone 4S? If yes, what is the make / model, how much bulk does it add to the phone, and how well does the keyboard work for typing text messages? Okay, I realize that's technically six questions. . TIA, Bryan From terrycooper10 at hotmail.com Wed Jan 4 14:50:11 2012 From: terrycooper10 at hotmail.com (Terry Cooper) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:50:11 +0000 Subject: delivery report on the iphone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Sarah Firstly, Thanks for your reply. Can you explain to a thicko, where and what screen do you have to be on when swiping to the left after you here the sent noise. Thanks. Terry, from a very cold England. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: 03 January 2012 18:56 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: delivery report on the iphone Just flick left really quickly after you hear the sent sound. it will flash. there for a few seconds. Good luck. On Jan 3, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Terry Cooper wrote: > Hi all > > Can you get delivery reports on the iphone when sending text messages? > If you can, then how do you make it so? > > Thanks. > > Terry > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 15:22:57 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:22:57 -0500 Subject: Two questions for iPhone 4S owners who've used either Siri or a keyboard case to speed up text entry In-Reply-To: <9A04E0CF-8ECA-48B4-A095-6FCB71C26DF3@me.com> References: <9A04E0CF-8ECA-48B4-A095-6FCB71C26DF3@me.com> Message-ID: Yes, you can use the voice command to do this and yes you can use a BT keyboard for this. I can give a link to one I have not used this one but it is very portable and others I know have used it. I use the Apple BT keyboard myself right now! See link below. http://www.boxwave.com/apple-iphone-4-accessories/bwdd/twvc/ Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Bryan Jones Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 8:35 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Two questions for iPhone 4S owners who've used either Siri or a keyboard case to speed up text entry Hi All, I have a friend who is considering switching from her Nokia smartphone to the iPhone 4S; However, she is a heavy texter and is hesitant to give up the Nokia's built-in physical keyboard. My two questions for Users of the iPhone 4S are: 1. Can you use Siri to create text messages including punctuation? If yes, have you been satisfied with your ability to text in this way? 2. Are you using a keyboard case combo with your iPhone 4S? If yes, what is the make / model, how much bulk does it add to the phone, and how well does the keyboard work for typing text messages? Okay, I realize that's technically six questions. . TIA, Bryan <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 15:32:59 2012 From: marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com (Marcy Weinberg) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:32:59 -0500 Subject: Two questions for iPhone 4S owners who've used either Siri or a keyboard case to speed up text entry In-Reply-To: <9A04E0CF-8ECA-48B4-A095-6FCB71C26DF3@me.com> References: <9A04E0CF-8ECA-48B4-A095-6FCB71C26DF3@me.com> Message-ID: <661D245E-8523-40F0-92FC-338EEAB1D97A@gmail.com> I use the on-screen keyboard. On Jan 4, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi All, I have a friend who is considering switching from her Nokia smartphone to the iPhone 4S; However, she is a heavy texter and is hesitant to give up the Nokia's built-in physical keyboard. My two questions for Users of the iPhone 4S are: 1. Can you use Siri to create text messages including punctuation? If yes, have you been satisfied with your ability to text in this way? 2. Are you using a keyboard case combo with your iPhone 4S? If yes, what is the make / model, how much bulk does it add to the phone, and how well does the keyboard work for typing text messages? Okay, I realize that's technically six questions. . TIA, Bryan <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From cjsims at me.com Wed Jan 4 17:19:59 2012 From: cjsims at me.com (Christopher Sims) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 04:19:59 +1100 Subject: Has alert, what does this mean? In-Reply-To: <4F0446A6.9060500@techno-chat.net> References: <4F0446A6.9060500@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <666037AB-6159-4313-AC77-715965720BE5@me.com> Hi Chris. It possibly means that there was a problem sending out a message. Such as a wrong phone #. On 04/01/2012, at 11:31 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > Hello all. > Please can I ask, on an iPhone 4 running iOS 5.0.1, what the heck does the words, "has alert" mean? Asking as I had it in the messages app. It has now disappeared. Thanks! > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 17:33:35 2012 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:33:35 +0100 Subject: Two questions for iPhone 4S owners who've used either Siri or a keyboard case to speed up text entry In-Reply-To: <661D245E-8523-40F0-92FC-338EEAB1D97A@gmail.com> References: <9A04E0CF-8ECA-48B4-A095-6FCB71C26DF3@me.com> <661D245E-8523-40F0-92FC-338EEAB1D97A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi! Another feature worth noting is that every keyboard on the iPhone 4S has a "dictate" key. When you press it, you can dictate punctuation marks and so-forth as well, and simply tap the same spot when you're done dictating. Another interesting thing worth mentioning is that if you are using another language on your phone, such as Danish which does not actually contain the dictation features yet nor full-functioning Siri at all, switching to a keyboard which is capable of using dictation will make it work for you regardless of phone preferences. So, even if you are unable to switch on Siri depending on language, you are still able to use the dictation symbol if the keyboard you have switched to is capable of using it. I've personally found this very helpful whenever I do use Siri, even though I'm not impressed beyond the dictation features. Siri currently works in English, German and French as far as I know, though there are some rumors floating around that Apple might at least add Spanish in 2012, most likely more, such as Italian. Regards, Nicolai On Jan 4, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > I use the on-screen keyboard. > > On Jan 4, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have a friend who is considering switching from her Nokia smartphone to the iPhone 4S; However, she is a heavy texter and is hesitant to give up the Nokia's built-in physical keyboard. My two questions for Users of the iPhone 4S are: > > 1. Can you use Siri to create text messages including punctuation? If yes, have you been satisfied with your ability to text in this way? > 2. Are you using a keyboard case combo with your iPhone 4S? If yes, what is the make / model, how much bulk does it add to the phone, and how well does the keyboard work for typing text messages? > > Okay, I realize that's technically six questions. . > > TIA, > Bryan > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > > -- > Marcy > marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Wed Jan 4 17:45:37 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:45:37 -0800 Subject: email getting around In-Reply-To: <07103572-2D70-4D8D-A27C-7E056A5A03A3@googlemail.com> References: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> <996C7356-86D7-49E5-A5CB-252BE94285EA@gmail.com> <8306DE7D-3C7B-4438-8393-DE32F85DD2D1@gmail.com> <08BAAD09-F995-450A-A7F7-F529ABD71633@telus.net> <07103572-2D70-4D8D-A27C-7E056A5A03A3@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Thanks that may have been the problem. Lovette On 2012-01-04, at 12:51 AM, Gordon Keen wrote: > Hi > > Have you checked that quick nav is turned off? > Hit left and right arrows simultaneously to toggle between on and off. > > hth > > G > > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. > > On 3 Jan 2012, at 21:38, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > >> I must have a setting wrong as it still doesn't work sometimes it spells things instead or still moves me to other options for mailboxes. >> I tried interacting too. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From doug.cam3 at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 17:49:07 2012 From: doug.cam3 at gmail.com (douglas rudolph) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 11:49:07 -0600 Subject: Has alert, what does this mean? In-Reply-To: <666037AB-6159-4313-AC77-715965720BE5@me.com> References: <4F0446A6.9060500@techno-chat.net> <666037AB-6159-4313-AC77-715965720BE5@me.com> Message-ID: oh hey!... this is actually a simple probem i encounter alot... its normally a message sent failer, or it shows up when there is alot of network traffic, and it takes an abnormal amount of time to get from your handset to another hth This email may contain personal identifyable information. Copy, relay, redistributions, and or reading of these emails is strictly prohibited, unless you are the intended recipiant of this email, and this intended recipiant only. If this is not the intended recipiant, then you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify sender. Douglas Rudolph Tel: 1306-565-2056 Cell: 1306-450-0153 Email: doug.cam3 at gmail.com direct to my cel: doug.cam at me.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Sims" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Has alert, what does this mean? > Hi Chris. It possibly means that there was a problem sending out a > message. Such as a wrong phone #. > On 04/01/2012, at 11:31 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Hello all. >> Please can I ask, on an iPhone 4 running iOS 5.0.1, what the heck does >> the words, "has alert" mean? Asking as I had it in the messages app. It >> has now disappeared. Thanks! >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Wed Jan 4 18:13:07 2012 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:13:07 +0000 Subject: email getting around In-Reply-To: References: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> <996C7356-86D7-49E5-A5CB-252BE94285EA@gmail.com> <8306DE7D-3C7B-4438-8393-DE32F85DD2D1@gmail.com> <08BAAD09-F995-450A-A7F7-F529ABD71633@telus.net> <07103572-2D70-4D8D-A27C-7E056A5A03A3@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi there! Well using! fn+vo+shift+left/right arrows! here works with quick nav on or off! I'm running snowy kitty! And do not know if it is different in Lion! hth Colin On 4 Jan 2012, at 17:45, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > Thanks that may have been the problem. > Lovette > > On 2012-01-04, at 12:51 AM, Gordon Keen wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Have you checked that quick nav is turned off? >> Hit left and right arrows simultaneously to toggle between on and off. >> >> hth >> >> G >> >> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. >> >> On 3 Jan 2012, at 21:38, Lovette Yewchan wrote: >> >>> I must have a setting wrong as it still doesn't work sometimes it spells things instead or still moves me to other options for mailboxes. >>> I tried interacting too. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 18:54:15 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:54:15 -0800 Subject: email getting around In-Reply-To: References: <249F0CFA-5A9E-4B4F-93AF-F6D91C88B0A2@telus.net> <996C7356-86D7-49E5-A5CB-252BE94285EA@gmail.com> <8306DE7D-3C7B-4438-8393-DE32F85DD2D1@gmail.com> <08BAAD09-F995-450A-A7F7-F529ABD71633@telus.net> <07103572-2D70-4D8D-A27C-7E056A5A03A3@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <7BAC5575-D28C-443A-BFC5-440044099CB5@gmail.com> No it shouldn't be. unless they broke something I didn't know about. I hardly if ever use qn. Take care all and hope the email gets fixed. Sarah Alawami If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jan 4, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi there! > Well using! > fn+vo+shift+left/right arrows! > here works with quick nav on or off! > I'm running snowy kitty! > And do not know if it is different in Lion! > hth Colin > > On 4 Jan 2012, at 17:45, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > >> Thanks that may have been the problem. >> Lovette >> >> On 2012-01-04, at 12:51 AM, Gordon Keen wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> Have you checked that quick nav is turned off? >>> Hit left and right arrows simultaneously to toggle between on and off. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> G >>> >>> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England. >>> >>> On 3 Jan 2012, at 21:38, Lovette Yewchan wrote: >>> >>>> I must have a setting wrong as it still doesn't work sometimes it spells things instead or still moves me to other options for mailboxes. >>>> I tried interacting too. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 18:55:08 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:55:08 -0800 Subject: delivery report on the iphone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03FF743D-8204-4DB5-A43F-34EA05E2B13D@gmail.com> the same message screen you were on when you sent the message. This works for Imessages. I have no idea if it works for text messages though. On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Terry Cooper wrote: > Hi Sarah > > Firstly, Thanks for your reply. > > Can you explain to a thicko, where and what screen do you have to be on when > swiping to the left after you here the sent noise. > > Thanks. > > Terry, from a very cold England. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: 03 January 2012 18:56 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: delivery report on the iphone > > Just flick left really quickly after you hear the sent sound. it will flash. > there for a few seconds. > > Good luck. > On Jan 3, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Terry Cooper wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> Can you get delivery reports on the iphone when sending text messages? >> If you can, then how do you make it so? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Terry >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Wed Jan 4 19:20:03 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 11:20:03 -0800 Subject: and email again Message-ID: <5CA62829-DCAC-40DB-B28A-E9A29B84D83B@telus.net> Hi there. I thik I am getting the hang of making a group in address book but am wondering if I put my name there too should I not get a message back as well when I write the list? THanks. Also sometimes people don't get my email yet I hear it go and it is in my sent box any thoughts on this? Lovette From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Wed Jan 4 19:49:58 2012 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:49:58 +0000 Subject: Has alert, what does this mean? In-Reply-To: <4F0446A6.9060500@techno-chat.net> References: <4F0446A6.9060500@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <77AAA80E-3D74-4D3C-BB5E-B3BDE715B1C3@googlemail.com> Hi Chris. The "Has Alert" means that Messages has an alert waiting for you when you open it. Same applies to other apps. The likelihood of this message was to say that " Your message was not sent.". Cheers. Lewis. On 4 Jan 2012, at 12:31, chris hallsworth wrote: > Hello all. > Please can I ask, on an iPhone 4 running iOS 5.0.1, what the heck does the words, "has alert" mean? Asking as I had it in the messages app. It has now disappeared. Thanks! > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Wed Jan 4 19:54:35 2012 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:54:35 +0000 Subject: Two questions for iPhone 4S owners who've used either Siri or a keyboard case to speed up text entry In-Reply-To: <9A04E0CF-8ECA-48B4-A095-6FCB71C26DF3@me.com> References: <9A04E0CF-8ECA-48B4-A095-6FCB71C26DF3@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Bryan. I am using both. However, I am finding that Siri is proving to be faster than either the Keyboard Case or the Touch Screen at the moment. I have the model where the keyboard slides into the case itself, but the keys are really really tiny! So much so, that even my fingers are struggling with it. HOwever, I can confirm that Siri works perfectly 98% of the time, although it is not so good in loud situations. It tends to pick up everything that is going on around, so a quiet place is better for it, which makes it able to pick up things you are saying easier. It does take a tiny bit of training for it to get your voice, but once it has it, it's fine. However, when in the right conditions, e.g your own home, etc, it works fine. Hope this helps. Lewis. On 4 Jan 2012, at 13:35, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a friend who is considering switching from her Nokia smartphone to the iPhone 4S; However, she is a heavy texter and is hesitant to give up the Nokia's built-in physical keyboard. My two questions for Users of the iPhone 4S are: > > 1. Can you use Siri to create text messages including punctuation? If yes, have you been satisfied with your ability to text in this way? > 2. Are you using a keyboard case combo with your iPhone 4S? If yes, what is the make / model, how much bulk does it add to the phone, and how well does the keyboard work for typing text messages? > > Okay, I realize that's technically six questions. . > > TIA, > Bryan > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From tsiegel at softcon.com Wed Jan 4 22:42:02 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:02 -0500 Subject: Terminal In-Reply-To: <7387F8D6-6D1F-4D25-946B-B5E5DAED032E@gmail.com> References: <013201ccc48c$15f4ebe0$41dec3a0$@gmail.com> <007501ccc553$33363610$99a2a230$@gmail.com> <6CA4010E-1E1E-4EE2-8EF7-7DD277FB5248@gmail.com> <84F0C749-78BD-4FD4-925F-2DF74DB158D2@gmail.com> <88887CB5-23F1-422C-B3CB-80E9374BB01A@me.com> <4EFE61ED.70704@haffar.ca> <6CF5339E-0EDE-4518-93C1-A329DE42FB31@swbell.net> <7387F8D6-6D1F-4D25-946B-B5E5DAED032E@gmail.com> Message-ID: The terminal is very unforgiving, you'll know if you make a mistake (well, at least if it's not a valid command you will) Terminal works on the assumption that you know what you're doing, so it assumes that if you did something correctly, you're not looking for feedback, it only spits out an error if something is wrong. If you'd like to play with terminal commands, and see how they work, you should probably locate one of the many tutorials available online for unix terminal usage. There's several posts in the list archives as well, so you can search there too. If you get stuck though, and can't figure something out, let us know, and we'll help out. On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > When you open Terminal, can you begin to type a command at that > point? Do you need any starting or ending characters of any kind. > When done typing the command, do you simply press enter? How do you > know if what you did is valid? Will Terminal give you any kind of > indication such as an error message? > > > On Dec 30, 2011, at 8:29 PM, michael maslo wrote: > >> Try voiceofaustralia.org or www.macfortheblind.com >> >> On Dec 30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Kamal Haffar wrote: >> >>> On 30/12/2011 4:50 PM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>> Hi. Yes that is an iMac. >>>> On 30/12/2011, at 7:03 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein >>>>> everything is in teh moniter. Is that the IMac? >>>>> >>>>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb >>>>> pro. I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like >>>>> I do back and forth across campus, an air might be for you >>>>> On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug. >>>>>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing >>>>>> because I had heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous >>>>>> incarnations, what you are saying was true, but not anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David >>>>>> Griffith" >>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM >>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there >>>>>>> is a monitor >>>>>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a >>>>>>> monitor. I have seen >>>>>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and >>>>>>> unused adaptor >>>>>>> plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand >>>>>>> experience of this >>>>>>> though so I cannot swear to it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah >>>>>>> Alawami >>>>>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07 >>>>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't you now need a monitor to run a mac mini? I've heard >>>>>>> that's now the >>>>>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have >>>>>>> everything in >>>>>>> the monitor including usb and mic jacks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the >>>>>>>> IMac but >>>>>>>> very good space saving desktop! JST ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> Diane Bomar >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM >>>>>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need a >>>>>>>> screen, or >>>>>>>> like having more than one monitor. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Bubba" >>>>>>>> To: "'Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility'" >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the >>>>>>>>> MacBook >>>>>>>>> Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop >>>>>>>>> replacement then >>>>>>>>> look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If wanting >>>>>>>>> something very >>>>>>>>> light and portable but not as powerful look at the Mac book >>>>>>>>> air 13 >>>>>>>>> inch model. JMT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bubba >>>>>>>>> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>> Mike Welty >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM >>>>>>>>> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hey all, >>>>>>>>> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering >>>>>>>>> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook >>>>>>>>> model. I want >>>>>>>>> faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on >>>>>>>>> what route I >>>>>>>>> should go. Any suggestions as to what MacBook model you'd >>>>>>>>> suggest, >>>>>>>>> and the reasons for the suggestion, would be great. >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the >>>>>>>>> Mac-Access forum >>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> maillist.xml> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>>>>>> Trojan, >>>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options >>>>>>>>> periodically by >>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> options/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the >>>>>>>>> Mac-Access forum >>>>>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> maillist.xml> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>>>>>> Trojan, >>>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options >>>>>>>>> periodically by >>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> options/> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac- >>>>>>>> Access forum >>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> maillist.xml> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>>>>> Trojan, >>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options >>>>>>>> periodically by >>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> options/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac- >>>>>>>> Access forum >>>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> maillist.xml> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>>>>> Trojan, virus >>>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options >>>>>>>> periodically by visiting >>>>>>> the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> options/> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac- >>>>>>> Access forum at >>>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>> maillist.xml> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>>>> Trojan, virus >>>>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options >>>>>>> periodically by visiting >>>>>>> the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- >>>>>>> access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac- >>>>>>> Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>> maillist.xml> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options >>>>>>> periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- >>>>>> access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac- >>>>>> Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>> maillist.xml> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically >>>>>> by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- >>>>> access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac- >>>>> Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>> maillist.xml> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically >>>>> by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- >>>> access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac- >>>> Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>> maillist.xml> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically >>>> by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> Hello everyone: >>> Any recommendations for a tutorial or a resource for a new Mac/ >>> Voiceover user? I went through the VoiceOver tutorial at start >>> up and that was helpful to get me started. I am able to get >>> around the system and browsing but I am sure I am not using >>> VoiceOver efficiently. >>> >>> >>> Holiday cheers, >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Kamal >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- >>> access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac- >>> Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >>> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- >> access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac- >> Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, >> Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- > access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Thu Jan 5 00:26:59 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:26:59 -0500 Subject: Notification Center Alert difficulty In-Reply-To: <92FCC429551442DEA3F5164CEBA560BD@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <8A6D5632-854C-4461-B047-D306F88B5E6B@Mac-Access.net><2C09F524-ADE4-4428-9D14-72E8203747B0@speedpost.net><97EC29B7-8A3B-483D-BCCB-C7394B2F26E8@speedpost.net><31213D450C294BC0B100BAC13A3B5A0F@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <8539B9F5-445A-48F7-A0CC-040E1F6884DA@Mac-Access.net> <92FCC429551442DEA3F5164CEBA560BD@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: Dear list, If anyone was following this thread I can report that I have solved at least some of the problem. I was not able to get two apps to work correctly in notifications. I finally resorted to deleting both apps from my phone then downloading again from the app store. AP Mobil is now working correctly. I won't know if the other app imap Radio is working until a alert happens but I'm hopeful. so if people have trouble getting notifications to work correctly you might want to try this. Remember though that deleting a app from your phone will delete all it's data. Thanks to everyone for their tips and suggestions. It is nice to have the notification Center working correctly again. eric Caron On Dec 24, 2011, at 2:53 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Eric, > > I just turned on the "speak notifications in locked screen" option in voiceOver settings, so we'll hopefully be comparing Apples to Apples. > > Alerts from iMap Weather Radio do appear in the notification center for me. I seem to recall the one time when WeatherRadio sent me an alert that it was spoken, but I'll have to await the next blizzard to confirm that. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eric Caron > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 4:20 PM > Subject: Re: Notification Center Alert difficulty > > > Hi Geoff, > > I'll switch off list in a bit but just in case others are following this I wanted folks to know I have tried restoring my phone and I have deleted AP Mobile and reinstalled it. I won't know if this has fixed the problem until another alert comes through from AP mobile. > > Geoff, on your 4S it sounds like you can see the weather Radio information in the notification Center but can't get the alertss to just speak out. Is that right? I can't get mine to show up in the notification Center or speak alerts on the 4S but all works fine on my 3GS. > > My 3GS is now serving as a touch but I don't keep it with me very much so I really miss having the notifications on my phone. > > Everyones thoughts and suggestions are appreciated. > > Eric Caron > On Dec 23, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Hi Eric, >> >> I am seeing alerts from WeatherRadio in my 4S's notification center. It was not clear to me from your initial post that you checked this, though its likely that you have. Anyway, for what its worth, verify that the app (s) in question appear under settings -> notifications -> heading labeled: "in notification center". If so double click the app and make certain the options you want (i.e. sounds, badges, etc) are selected. If an app such as WeatherRadio is outside of Notification center, then double tap and you'll notice that one of the options is to move it to the other heading. >> >> I have at least one of the apps in question, though I can't force WeatherRadio to send me alerts. Still, if it would help we have identical hardware, and at least one app in common, so feel free to drop me a note off line and I'd be glad to do what I can to help you sort this out. Then if we learn something that might be of interest to the list one of us could share the resolution here. >> >> Best regards, and Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it! >> Geoff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Eric Caron >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 5:55 AM >> Subject: Re: Notification Center Alert difficulty >> >> >> Hi Zack and others, >> >> On the 4 S the problem apps don't show up in notification center at all even though in settings they are with the others that do show up. So no audio alerts and nothing in notification Center when I open it. yet they are in the settings just like other apps that are working. In fact they are between the apps so I'm sure they are not in the section that is removed from Notification Center. >> >> Zack's question is helpful as I now realize the problem apps don't show up at all on the 4S in Notification Center. >> >> Very strange. >> >> Eric Caron >> On Dec 22, 2011, at 9:21 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >> >>> Hi Eric, >>> Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you need or what's happening. Are the apps not displaying push notifications properly? Are they being displayed but somehow not spoken? Clarification would be helpful. >>> BEst, >>> Zack. >>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Zack, >>>> >>>> I have that setting set to on but still no luck. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the suggestion. >>>> >>>> Eric Caron >>>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Eric, >>>>> I'm not sure what to suggest other than to be sure you look under all the settings categories. In particular, there's an option under General/Accessibility/Voiceover you might have missed. Specifically, it controls whether notifications are announced on the lock screen. Is this the behavior you refer to? >>>>> Best, >>>>> Zack. >>>>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Listers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, I have a puzzel for iOS 5 users. I've tried to solve this and had no lucy. Here goes. >>>>>> >>>>>> My old 3GS was upgraded to iOS 5 before I purchased my iPhone 4S . I backed up my 3GS to my new phone and all went well. Only one glitch. >>>>>> >>>>>> My old 3GS still announces out loud things I want to hear. For example Weather alerts from Weather radio, and headlines from AP Mobile. My 4S just won't do it. I've tried to put both phones in front of me and match the settings. Still my 3GS announces and the 4 S will not. I called Apple and tried to adjust with the person and they had me do all the things I had tried with no success. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also looked in the apps to see if there were other settings and did not find them. I also looked in settings under the app outside of notifications and there was nothing to adjust there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some apps like VoCal and messages and calendar seem to be working fine on both phones. >>>>>> >>>>>> The only thing I have not tried is to delete the app and start again. I don't like doing such a drastic thing. I was silly and did this with List Recorder and lost useful recordings. I don't have data I'm afraid to loos on the current apps I would just have to fix up my settings again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> I reached my frustration point today because a winter storm warning is out and I wanted updates. Need to know If I should anticipate a snow day or school delay! Like most educators this is perhaps even more a cause of celebration for us then our students! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric Caron >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Thu Jan 5 00:39:16 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:39:16 -0500 Subject: iCloud Mail broken and the fix Message-ID: Hello listers, The other day I came home and found that my iCloud mail account was no longer working. Mail kept saying my password was denied. I tried entering my password many times and many places and nothing worked. finally I used my Apple Care and called for help. The first person was very nice but nothing worked. The second senior adviser reset my password and created a temporary one. I then created a new password. I believed I used forgot.apple.com to do this. I had all ready done this once with the first rep on my own but the second rep did something different. Instead of just having me create a new one she first created the temporary one. Once I then created mine and then entered it into my iCloud log in and on my computer in mail everything worked. I had to also enter the new pass word on my iPhone in settings in mail and also again in some apps like find my friends. I asked the rep what would have happened if I did not have Apple care. She said in a case like this she would have probably forgiven the bill. Still I think if I had not had Apple Care I would not have called. I also asked why this happened and why my resetting the password with the first rep didn't work. she didn't know, she just knew these actions might solve the problem. So, I'm writing this in case others suddenly have their iCloud mail stop working. Perhaps resetting your password to a new one will help, but you may need to have Apple set a temporary one first. Hope this info helps someone down the road. Best, eric Caron From 1smartdog at cox.net Thu Jan 5 03:47:44 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 21:47:44 -0600 Subject: Drop Box Message-ID: I have installed Drop Box on my PC, wich is working correctly. I have now installed on my Macbook Pro. The Drop Box folder is under the Public folder but files are not being shared with the Macbook. Are there settings I need to change? Thanks for any assistance. Karen From rattail4 at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 03:51:16 2012 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 22:51:16 -0500 Subject: Drop Box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7A8182F996DE4CDAA11AB6C0ACFF8503@MQUAD> Did you actually set up dropbox on the Mac, or did you just copy the app and run it -------------------------------------------------- From: "1SmartDog at cox.net" <1smartdog at cox.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 22:47 To: Subject: Drop Box > I have installed Drop Box on my PC, wich is working correctly. I have now > installed on my Macbook Pro. The Drop Box folder is under the Public > folder but files are not being shared with the Macbook. Are there settings > I need to change? > > Thanks for any assistance. > > Karen > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From 1smartdog at cox.net Thu Jan 5 04:09:44 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 22:09:44 -0600 Subject: Drop Box In-Reply-To: <7A8182F996DE4CDAA11AB6C0ACFF8503@MQUAD> References: <7A8182F996DE4CDAA11AB6C0ACFF8503@MQUAD> Message-ID: <57488495-C931-4A28-830A-2822CDF00C2A@cox.net> Yes, I set it up and used the same account as on my PC and Iphone. Karen On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Mike Welty wrote: > Did you actually set up dropbox on the Mac, or did you just copy the app and run it > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "1SmartDog at cox.net" <1smartdog at cox.net> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 22:47 > To: > Subject: Drop Box > >> I have installed Drop Box on my PC, wich is working correctly. I have now installed on my Macbook Pro. The Drop Box folder is under the Public folder but files are not being shared with the Macbook. Are there settings I need to change? >> >> Thanks for any assistance. >> >> Karen >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rattail4 at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 04:35:11 2012 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 23:35:11 -0500 Subject: Drop Box In-Reply-To: <57488495-C931-4A28-830A-2822CDF00C2A@cox.net> References: <7A8182F996DE4CDAA11AB6C0ACFF8503@MQUAD> <57488495-C931-4A28-830A-2822CDF00C2A@cox.net> Message-ID: <37A19CE7417941A8AF340F1DFC78A3AB@MQUAD> And it shows no files in that folder at all? -------------------------------------------------- From: "1SmartDog at cox.net" <1smartdog at cox.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 23:09 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Re: Drop Box > Yes, I set it up and used the same account as on my PC and Iphone. > > Karen > > On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Mike Welty wrote: > >> Did you actually set up dropbox on the Mac, or did you just copy the app >> and run it >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "1SmartDog at cox.net" <1smartdog at cox.net> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 22:47 >> To: >> Subject: Drop Box >> >>> I have installed Drop Box on my PC, wich is working correctly. I have >>> now installed on my Macbook Pro. The Drop Box folder is under the Public >>> folder but files are not being shared with the Macbook. Are there >>> settings I need to change? >>> >>> Thanks for any assistance. >>> >>> Karen >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From 1smartdog at cox.net Thu Jan 5 04:55:00 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 22:55:00 -0600 Subject: Drop Box References: <7A8182F996DE4CDAA11AB6C0ACFF8503@MQUAD><57488495-C931-4A28-830A-2822CDF00C2A@cox.net> <37A19CE7417941A8AF340F1DFC78A3AB@MQUAD> Message-ID: <94D4EAED44BF4B16A0ED797BC505F7D9@karen796b6a58c> Nope. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Welty" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:35 PM Subject: Re: Drop Box > And it shows no files in that folder at all? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "1SmartDog at cox.net" <1smartdog at cox.net> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 23:09 > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Subject: Re: Drop Box > >> Yes, I set it up and used the same account as on my PC and Iphone. >> >> Karen >> >> On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Mike Welty wrote: >> >>> Did you actually set up dropbox on the Mac, or did you just copy the app >>> and run it >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "1SmartDog at cox.net" <1smartdog at cox.net> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 22:47 >>> To: >>> Subject: Drop Box >>> >>>> I have installed Drop Box on my PC, wich is working correctly. I have >>>> now installed on my Macbook Pro. The Drop Box folder is under the >>>> Public folder but files are not being shared with the Macbook. Are >>>> there settings I need to change? >>>> >>>> Thanks for any assistance. >>>> >>>> Karen >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 05:26:32 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 21:26:32 -0800 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> <4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> I just looked at the site. what they don't say is the iPhone app cost 4.99 whilst the mac app looks to be free. Just thought I' let everyone know. On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:32 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > www.myphonedesktop.com. > > On 02/01/2012 19:10, Courtney Curran wrote: >> Hi, >> Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think I saw a link to go get it. >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote: >> >>> I've got it now. Thanks for that. I don't like the way that the whole registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the Melbourne Weather gets to warm. >>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>> iMessage: cjsims at me.com >>> >>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? >>>> >>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Thu Jan 5 05:28:35 2012 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 23:28:35 -0600 Subject: My Phone Desktop References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net><01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com><19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com><4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3B56A8B011B240C88340E9875AE68339@your2c061f0461> Is there a version for the PC? Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:26 PM Subject: Re: My Phone Desktop I just looked at the site. what they don't say is the iPhone app cost 4.99 whilst the mac app looks to be free. Just thought I' let everyone know. On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:32 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > www.myphonedesktop.com. > > On 02/01/2012 19:10, Courtney Curran wrote: >> Hi, >> Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but >> I don't think I saw a link to go get it. >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote: >> >>> I've got it now. Thanks for that. I don't like the way that the whole >>> registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with >>> it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the >>> Melbourne Weather gets to warm. >>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone >>> M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>> iMessage: cjsims at me.com >>> >>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? >>>> >>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't >>>>> seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't >>>>>> always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on >>>>>>> i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small >>>>>>> part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to >>>>>>>> basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. >>>>>>>> You can: >>>>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be >>>>>>>> pasted later. >>>>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not >>>>>>>> tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the >>>>>>>> productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility >>>>>>>> comments. >>>>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. >>>>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From godfearer at comcast.net Thu Jan 5 08:25:58 2012 From: godfearer at comcast.net (robert doc Wright) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 01:25:58 -0700 Subject: voiceover on IPhone 3gs 8 gig References: <4F044F5A.1050708@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <8F7BA92C8C5A4DC29F7309AC4E962BC3@Media> no, aTT has started advertising the 8gb iPhone. ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:08 AM Subject: Re: voiceover on IPhone 3gs 8 gig > Are you all not getting this confused with the iPod 3G 8 GB? I ran into > the same confusion myself. > > On 04/01/2012 00:30, Mike Welty wrote: >> Hey all, >> I remember once hearing that IPhone 3gs 8 gig didn't support voiceover, >> well I can say that's not true at all. My gf just got her's today running >> IOS 5 and voiceover works like a charm. Also it's very very quick unlike >> what others have said. >> Wasn't sure if anyone else realized this or not so thought I'd pass it >> along. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Thu Jan 5 10:12:16 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:12:16 -0000 Subject: Drop Box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8848D2F883D64C428201A803EB0840EB@acer4d025c48b8> I know nothing about dropbox really but just to comment that I personally do not bother with dropbox as the free file server service provided by Mac Access is simple accessible and very straightforward to use. David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of 1SmartDog at cox.net Sent: 05 January 2012 03:48 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Drop Box I have installed Drop Box on my PC, wich is working correctly. I have now installed on my Macbook Pro. The Drop Box folder is under the Public folder but files are not being shared with the Macbook. Are there settings I need to change? Thanks for any assistance. Karen <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gunn at tznet.com Thu Jan 5 10:47:56 2012 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 04:47:56 -0600 Subject: Drop Box In-Reply-To: <94D4EAED44BF4B16A0ED797BC505F7D9@karen796b6a58c> References: <7A8182F996DE4CDAA11AB6C0ACFF8503@MQUAD><57488495-C931-4A28-830A-2822CDF00C2A@cox.net> <37A19CE7417941A8AF340F1DFC78A3AB@MQUAD> <94D4EAED44BF4B16A0ED797BC505F7D9@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: <493682E9-ED1C-49EB-A9AE-121064B4F5CD@tznet.com> Hello: The dropbox folder you are referring to is a standard that the OS puts there. The location is usually in your home folder. Take care, John On Jan 4, 2012, at 10:55 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > Nope. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Welty" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:35 PM > Subject: Re: Drop Box > > >> And it shows no files in that folder at all? >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "1SmartDog at cox.net" <1smartdog at cox.net> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 23:09 >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Subject: Re: Drop Box >> >>> Yes, I set it up and used the same account as on my PC and Iphone. >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Mike Welty wrote: >>> >>>> Did you actually set up dropbox on the Mac, or did you just copy the app and run it >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "1SmartDog at cox.net" <1smartdog at cox.net> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 22:47 >>>> To: >>>> Subject: Drop Box >>>> >>>>> I have installed Drop Box on my PC, wich is working correctly. I have now installed on my Macbook Pro. The Drop Box folder is under the Public folder but files are not being shared with the Macbook. Are there settings I need to change? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any assistance. >>>>> >>>>> Karen >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Thu Jan 5 16:37:17 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:37:17 +0000 Subject: Lumin iPhone iPod iPad app Message-ID: <4F05D1BD.4080700@techno-chat.net> Lumin iPhone iPod iPad app. http://tidbits.com/article/12700?rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tidbits_main+%28TidBITS%3A+Mac+News+for+the+Rest+of+Us%29 From motten53 at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 16:42:05 2012 From: motten53 at gmail.com (Mary Otten) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 08:42:05 -0800 Subject: Lumin iPhone iPod iPad app In-Reply-To: <4F05D1BD.4080700@techno-chat.net> References: <4F05D1BD.4080700@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <920E7DE7-B783-4C6A-9263-3477B637B6E9@gmail.com> A one liner about what this does would be nice, rather than expecting us all to go look at a link with no explanation. Thanks. Mary Mary Otten motten53 at gmail.com From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Thu Jan 5 16:52:09 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:52:09 +0000 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <3B56A8B011B240C88340E9875AE68339@your2c061f0461> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net><01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com><19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com><4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> <3B56A8B011B240C88340E9875AE68339@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <4F05D539.8050107@techno-chat.net> There is a PC app but it is totally inaccessible. It is best to use the web client. On 05/01/2012 05:28, Glenn wrote: > Is there a version for the PC? > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:26 PM > Subject: Re: My Phone Desktop > > > I just looked at the site. what they don't say is the iPhone app cost 4.99 > whilst the mac app looks to be free. > > > Just thought I' let everyone know. > On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:32 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> www.myphonedesktop.com. >> >> On 02/01/2012 19:10, Courtney Curran wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but >>> I don't think I saw a link to go get it. >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney >>> On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote: >>> >>>> I've got it now. Thanks for that. I don't like the way that the whole >>>> registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with >>>> it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the >>>> Melbourne Weather gets to warm. >>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone >>>> M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>> iMessage: cjsims at me.com >>>> >>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't >>>>>> seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't >>>>>>> always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on >>>>>>>> i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small >>>>>>>> part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to >>>>>>>>> basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. >>>>>>>>> You can: >>>>>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be >>>>>>>>> pasted later. >>>>>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not >>>>>>>>> tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the >>>>>>>>> productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility >>>>>>>>> comments. >>>>>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. >>>>>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Thu Jan 5 16:52:36 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:52:36 +0000 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> <4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F05D554.7080400@techno-chat.net> Thanks, they don't but I checked the iTunes app store and that's where I found and thus paid for it. It was ?2.99 here in the UK. On 05/01/2012 05:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I just looked at the site. what they don't say is the iPhone app cost 4.99 whilst the mac app looks to be free. > > > Just thought I' let everyone know. > On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:32 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> www.myphonedesktop.com. >> >> On 02/01/2012 19:10, Courtney Curran wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think I saw a link to go get it. >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney >>> On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote: >>> >>>> I've got it now. Thanks for that. I don't like the way that the whole registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the Melbourne Weather gets to warm. >>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>> iMessage: cjsims at me.com >>>> >>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>>>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>>>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>>>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From 1smartdog at cox.net Thu Jan 5 16:57:42 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:57:42 -0600 Subject: Drop Box References: <7A8182F996DE4CDAA11AB6C0ACFF8503@MQUAD><57488495-C931-4A28-830A-2822CDF00C2A@cox.net><37A19CE7417941A8AF340F1DFC78A3AB@MQUAD><94D4EAED44BF4B16A0ED797BC505F7D9@karen796b6a58c> <493682E9-ED1C-49EB-A9AE-121064B4F5CD@tznet.com> Message-ID: I reviewed the date of creation for the folders and figured that out. I did get it fixed. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gunn" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 4:47 AM Subject: Re: Drop Box > Hello: > > The dropbox folder you are referring to is a standard that the OS puts > there. > > The location is usually in your home folder. > > Take care, > > John > > > On Jan 4, 2012, at 10:55 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > >> Nope. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Welty" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:35 PM >> Subject: Re: Drop Box >> >> >>> And it shows no files in that folder at all? >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "1SmartDog at cox.net" <1smartdog at cox.net> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 23:09 >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Subject: Re: Drop Box >>> >>>> Yes, I set it up and used the same account as on my PC and Iphone. >>>> >>>> Karen >>>> >>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Mike Welty wrote: >>>> >>>>> Did you actually set up dropbox on the Mac, or did you just copy the >>>>> app and run it >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "1SmartDog at cox.net" <1smartdog at cox.net> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 22:47 >>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: Drop Box >>>>> >>>>>> I have installed Drop Box on my PC, wich is working correctly. I have >>>>>> now installed on my Macbook Pro. The Drop Box folder is under the >>>>>> Public folder but files are not being shared with the Macbook. Are >>>>>> there settings I need to change? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for any assistance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Karen >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Thu Jan 5 17:11:37 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:11:37 -0500 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <4F05D554.7080400@techno-chat.net> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> <4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> <4F05D554.7080400@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <8C906A5E-A2E0-4F5D-A58C-1169E392CF9A@mac.com> Hi, I'm curious to learn what additional features you have using My Phone Desktop over Type2Phone -- apart from the fact that Type2Phone is a Mac only application that you can buy from the Mac App Store for the same price ($4.99). When I linked to Dr. Drang's blog article about setting up Type2Phone in my original list post, one of the comments on his article was from someone who used My Phone Desktop for the same purposes (typing text for mail, messages, and anywhere you would normally have to type or use copy and paste to insert text, with the option of copying from your Mac's clipboard -- URLs, selected text, etc.). The response was that since Type2Phone worked through a Bluetooth connection, you could continue to use your Mac keyboard to type on your iOS device, and copy and paste information from your Mac, even without having an active internet connection for your computer. My understanding is that by having to use a web interface with My Phone Desktop, you must have your computer on an active internet connection to use it with your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. Is this correct? I'm just trying to understand the pros and cons of these apps, and the various options we have for using our computer keyboards for the iOS devices. If anyone has tried both Type2Phone and My Phone Desktop it would be great to hear a comparison of features, and what is best about each. Certainly, if it's easier to make calls through the web browser interface with MyPhoneDesktop that would be interesting to know. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:52, chris hallsworth wrote: > Thanks, they don't but I checked the iTunes app store and that's where I found and thus paid for it. It was ?2.99 here in the UK. > > On 05/01/2012 05:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> I just looked at the site. what they don't say is the iPhone app cost 4.99 whilst the mac app looks to be free. >> >> >> Just thought I' let everyone know. >> On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:32 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >>> www.myphonedesktop.com. >>> >>> On 02/01/2012 19:10, Courtney Curran wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think I saw a link to go get it. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Courtney >>>> On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've got it now. Thanks for that. I don't like the way that the whole registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the Melbourne Weather gets to warm. >>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>> iMessage: cjsims at me.com >>>>> >>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>>>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>>>>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>>>>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>>>>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>>>>>> Enjoy! From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 17:12:37 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:12:37 -0800 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <4F05D554.7080400@techno-chat.net> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> <4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> <4F05D554.7080400@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <900D1333-23F4-4AF1-956E-04ABBD57969D@gmail.com> Yeah 4.99 here. and someone told me who has used it that it is not worth getting I guess due to the clunklyness. I'm thinking that those of us that use the clients can contact the venters and ask they make them accessible then maybe I might consider using it but for now, no! On Jan 5, 2012, at 8:52 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > Thanks, they don't but I checked the iTunes app store and that's where I found and thus paid for it. It was ?2.99 here in the UK. > > On 05/01/2012 05:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> I just looked at the site. what they don't say is the iPhone app cost 4.99 whilst the mac app looks to be free. >> >> >> Just thought I' let everyone know. >> On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:32 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >>> www.myphonedesktop.com. >>> >>> On 02/01/2012 19:10, Courtney Curran wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think I saw a link to go get it. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Courtney >>>> On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've got it now. Thanks for that. I don't like the way that the whole registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the Melbourne Weather gets to warm. >>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>> iMessage: cjsims at me.com >>>>> >>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>>>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>>>>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>>>>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>>>>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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>>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 17:37:11 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:37:11 -0800 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <8C906A5E-A2E0-4F5D-A58C-1169E392CF9A@mac.com> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> <4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> <4F05D554.7080400@techno-chat.net> <8C906A5E-A2E0-4F5D-A58C-1169E392CF9A@mac.com> Message-ID: You can also call contacts and text as well. I don't think you can do that with the type to phone app unless I am mistaken. You can basically control you phone and send photos to the phone via the my phone desktop app. First when you run the my phone desktop mac client you get asked to install java run time. this was a surprise to me. After installing the java you try and open the app and it stays busy the whole time. I tried reopining the app as well. Now mind you I don't have the mobile app installed so that might be the culprit. Take care all. On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi, > > I'm curious to learn what additional features you have using My Phone Desktop over Type2Phone -- apart from the fact that Type2Phone is a Mac only application that you can buy from the Mac App Store for the same price ($4.99). When I linked to Dr. Drang's blog article about setting up Type2Phone in my original list post, one of the comments on his article was from someone who used My Phone Desktop for the same purposes (typing text for mail, messages, and anywhere you would normally have to type or use copy and paste to insert text, with the option of copying from your Mac's clipboard -- URLs, selected text, etc.). The response was that since Type2Phone worked through a Bluetooth connection, you could continue to use your Mac keyboard to type on your iOS device, and copy and paste information from your Mac, even without having an active internet connection for your computer. My understanding is that by having to use a web interface with My Phone Desktop, you must have your computer on an active internet connection to use it with your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. Is this correct? I'm just trying to understand the pros and cons of these apps, and the various options we have for using our computer keyboards for the iOS devices. If anyone has tried both Type2Phone and My Phone Desktop it would be great to hear a comparison of features, and what is best about each. > > Certainly, if it's easier to make calls through the web browser interface with MyPhoneDesktop that would be interesting to know. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:52, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Thanks, they don't but I checked the iTunes app store and that's where I found and thus paid for it. It was ?2.99 here in the UK. >> >> On 05/01/2012 05:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I just looked at the site. what they don't say is the iPhone app cost 4.99 whilst the mac app looks to be free. >>> >>> >>> Just thought I' let everyone know. >>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:32 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>> >>>> www.myphonedesktop.com. >>>> >>>> On 02/01/2012 19:10, Courtney Curran wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think I saw a link to go get it. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Courtney >>>>> On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've got it now. Thanks for that. I don't like the way that the whole registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the Melbourne Weather gets to warm. >>>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>>> iMessage: cjsims at me.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>>>>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>>>>>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>>>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>>>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>>>>>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy! > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 17:37:53 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:37:53 -0800 Subject: Lumin iPhone iPod iPad app In-Reply-To: <920E7DE7-B783-4C6A-9263-3477B637B6E9@gmail.com> References: <4F05D1BD.4080700@techno-chat.net> <920E7DE7-B783-4C6A-9263-3477B637B6E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Agreed. what is it. I don't havd the time to click on the link. Take care. On Jan 5, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > A one liner about what this does would be nice, rather than expecting us all to go look at a link with no explanation. Thanks. > > Mary > > Mary Otten > motten53 at gmail.com > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Thu Jan 5 18:43:27 2012 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:43:27 -0600 Subject: vOICe app? Message-ID: <4C57F667EE414B859A643865802DEB5B@your2c061f0461> Hi All, There is a neat software for PCs called the vOICe. It is a program that not only is a color detector, but it sonifies the environment, by sending a tone from left to right as it scans the scene the camera sees, and it uses a higher tone as it traces an image as the tracer rises in the view. So you can locate things by learning to determine what the sound is telling you. I have used this on my laptop, and I recently contacted the developer of this great, and free software about making an IOS app, but he indicated that there is something prohibitive about making such an app for IOS devices. My question is, does anyone know if there is an app that does a similar function? Thanks. Glenn From moriond at mac.com Thu Jan 5 18:47:19 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:47:19 -0500 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> <4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> <4F05D554.7080400@techno-chat.net> <8C906A5E-A2E0-4F5D-A58C-1169E392CF9A@mac.com> Message-ID: <3E4FF6FF-1081-4877-B8B0-D01B534942D8@mac.com> Hi Sarah, Thanks for the additional information. It sounds as though you get an additional command sequence to initiate calls and text messages through the web interface of My Phone Desktop. With Type2Phone you can type in the content of text messages, and cut and paste content from your Mac clipboard to your iOS device, but there's no additional controls to initiate phone calls or send the text messages -- it's basically for typing. With the other Mac desktop app that Ed mentioned in his earlier post, iKeyboard, you can use your Mac keyboard like a paired Bluetooth keyboard if you turn VoiceOver off on your Mac while you type. That means you can use the regular Bluetooth shortcuts and command sequences that you'd use with an Apple Wireless Keyboard, for example. In addition, there are a few F-keys that get special functions -- like a Home key and a Spotlight search key similar to the iPad Keyboard Dock with dedicated keys in the F-key row, since you're not going to use your keyboard to control things like iOS brightness with the low-number F-keys. I suspect that if you use a full keyboard with iKeyboard, you also get use of the numpad keys for numeric data entry. The support for additional language keyboards is better with iKeyboard -- Greek, Russian, and more non-European languages that are not yet fully supported with Type2Phone. And you can't do the copy and paste transfer of text from your other Mac apps with iKeyboard, the way you can with Type2Phone. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 5, 2012, at 12:37, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You can also call contacts and text as well. I don't think you can do that with the type to phone app unless I am mistaken. You can basically control you phone and send photos to the phone via the my phone desktop app. > > First when you run the my phone desktop mac client you get asked to install java run time. this was a surprise to me. > > After installing the java you try and open the app and it stays busy the whole time. I tried reopining the app as well. Now mind you I don't have the mobile app installed so that might be the culprit. > > Take care all. > On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm curious to learn what additional features you have using My Phone Desktop over Type2Phone -- apart from the fact that Type2Phone is a Mac only application that you can buy from the Mac App Store for the same price ($4.99). When I linked to Dr. Drang's blog article about setting up Type2Phone in my original list post, one of the comments on his article was from someone who used My Phone Desktop for the same purposes (typing text for mail, messages, and anywhere you would normally have to type or use copy and paste to insert text, with the option of copying from your Mac's clipboard -- URLs, selected text, etc.). The response was that since Type2Phone worked through a Bluetooth connection, you could continue to use your Mac keyboard to type on your iOS device, and copy and paste information from your Mac, even without having an active internet connection for your computer. My understanding is that by having to use a web interface with My Phone Desktop, you must have your computer on an active internet connection to use it with your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. Is this correct? I'm just trying to understand the pros and cons of these apps, and the various options we have for using our computer keyboards for the iOS devices. If anyone has tried both Type2Phone and My Phone Desktop it would be great to hear a comparison of features, and what is best about each. >> >> Certainly, if it's easier to make calls through the web browser interface with MyPhoneDesktop that would be interesting to know. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 18:56:50 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:56:50 -0800 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <3E4FF6FF-1081-4877-B8B0-D01B534942D8@mac.com> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> <4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> <4F05D554.7080400@techno-chat.net> <8C906A5E-A2E0-4F5D-A58C-1169E392CF9A@mac.com> <3E4FF6FF-1081-4877-B8B0-D01B534942D8@mac.com> Message-ID: <09139D3C-6B72-476A-AACC-FC3925681837@gmail.com> Hmm interesting. actually g you have to put in the number manually as the web does not have access to your contacts Not sure if the desktop clients do as I can't use it lol! Take care all. On Jan 5, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Thanks for the additional information. It sounds as though you get an additional command sequence to initiate calls and text messages through the web interface of My Phone Desktop. With Type2Phone you can type in the content of text messages, and cut and paste content from your Mac clipboard to your iOS device, but there's no additional controls to initiate phone calls or send the text messages -- it's basically for typing. With the other Mac desktop app that Ed mentioned in his earlier post, iKeyboard, you can use your Mac keyboard like a paired Bluetooth keyboard if you turn VoiceOver off on your Mac while you type. That means you can use the regular Bluetooth shortcuts and command sequences that you'd use with an Apple Wireless Keyboard, for example. In addition, there are a few F-keys that get special functions -- like a Home key and a Spotlight search key similar to the iPad Keyboard Dock with dedicated keys in the F-key row, since you're not going to use your keybo > ard to control things like iOS brightness with the low-number F-keys. I suspect that if you use a full keyboard with iKeyboard, you also get use of the numpad keys for numeric data entry. The support for additional language keyboards is better with iKeyboard -- Greek, Russian, and more non-European languages that are not yet fully supported with Type2Phone. And you can't do the copy and paste transfer of text from your other Mac apps with iKeyboard, the way you can with Type2Phone. > > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Jan 5, 2012, at 12:37, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> You can also call contacts and text as well. I don't think you can do that with the type to phone app unless I am mistaken. You can basically control you phone and send photos to the phone via the my phone desktop app. >> >> First when you run the my phone desktop mac client you get asked to install java run time. this was a surprise to me. >> >> After installing the java you try and open the app and it stays busy the whole time. I tried reopining the app as well. Now mind you I don't have the mobile app installed so that might be the culprit. >> >> Take care all. >> On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm curious to learn what additional features you have using My Phone Desktop over Type2Phone -- apart from the fact that Type2Phone is a Mac only application that you can buy from the Mac App Store for the same price ($4.99). When I linked to Dr. Drang's blog article about setting up Type2Phone in my original list post, one of the comments on his article was from someone who used My Phone Desktop for the same purposes (typing text for mail, messages, and anywhere you would normally have to type or use copy and paste to insert text, with the option of copying from your Mac's clipboard -- URLs, selected text, etc.). The response was that since Type2Phone worked through a Bluetooth connection, you could continue to use your Mac keyboard to type on your iOS device, and copy and paste information from your Mac, even without having an active internet connection for your computer. My understanding is that by having to use a web interface with My Phone Desktop, you must have y > our computer on an active internet connection to use it with your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. Is this correct? I'm just trying to understand the pros and cons of these apps, and the various options we have for using our computer keyboards for the iOS devices. If anyone has tried both Type2Phone and My Phone Desktop it would be great to hear a comparison of features, and what is best about each. >>> >>> Certainly, if it's easier to make calls through the web browser interface with MyPhoneDesktop that would be interesting to know. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 19:02:14 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:02:14 -0800 Subject: vOICe app? In-Reply-To: <4C57F667EE414B859A643865802DEB5B@your2c061f0461> References: <4C57F667EE414B859A643865802DEB5B@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: No. I don't think there is. sorry to bring bad news. If there is I'd like to know as well. On Jan 5, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Glenn wrote: > Hi All, > There is a neat software for PCs called the vOICe. > It is a program that not only is a color detector, but it sonifies the > environment, by sending a tone from left to right as it scans the scene the > camera sees, and it uses a higher tone as it traces an image as the tracer > rises in the view. > So you can locate things by learning to determine what the sound is telling > you. > I have used this on my laptop, and I recently contacted the developer of > this great, and free software about making an IOS app, but he indicated that > there is something prohibitive about making such an app for IOS devices. > My question is, does anyone know if there is an app that does a similar > function? > Thanks. > Glenn > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Thu Jan 5 20:28:02 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:28:02 +0000 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <09139D3C-6B72-476A-AACC-FC3925681837@gmail.com> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> <4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> <4F05D554.7080400@techno-chat.net> <8C906A5E-A2E0-4F5D-A58C-1169E392CF9A@mac.com> <3E4FF6FF-1081-4877-B8B0-D01B534942D8@mac.com> <09139D3C-6B72-476A-AACC-FC3925681837@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F0607D2.9080406@techno-chat.net> Lol I am not sure either and yes you do have to input the number manually. On 05/01/2012 18:56, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hmm interesting. actually g you have to put in the number manually as the web does not have access to your contacts Not sure if the desktop clients do as I can't use it lol! > > Take care all. > On Jan 5, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Thanks for the additional information. It sounds as though you get an additional command sequence to initiate calls and text messages through the web interface of My Phone Desktop. With Type2Phone you can type in the content of text messages, and cut and paste content from your Mac clipboard to your iOS device, but there's no additional controls to initiate phone calls or send the text messages -- it's basically for typing. With the other Mac desktop app that Ed mentioned in his earlier post, iKeyboard, you can use your Mac keyboard like a paired Bluetooth keyboard if you turn VoiceOver off on your Mac while you type. That means you can use the regular Bluetooth shortcuts and command sequences that you'd use with an Apple Wireless Keyboard, for example. In addition, there are a few F-keys that get special functions -- like a Home key and a Spotlight search key similar to the iPad Keyboard Dock with dedicated keys in the F-key row, since you're not going to use your k ey > bo >> ard to control things like iOS brightness with the low-number F-keys. I suspect that if you use a full keyboard with iKeyboard, you also get use of the numpad keys for numeric data entry. The support for additional language keyboards is better with iKeyboard -- Greek, Russian, and more non-European languages that are not yet fully supported with Type2Phone. And you can't do the copy and paste transfer of text from your other Mac apps with iKeyboard, the way you can with Type2Phone. >> >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> On Jan 5, 2012, at 12:37, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> You can also call contacts and text as well. I don't think you can do that with the type to phone app unless I am mistaken. You can basically control you phone and send photos to the phone via the my phone desktop app. >>> >>> First when you run the my phone desktop mac client you get asked to install java run time. this was a surprise to me. >>> >>> After installing the java you try and open the app and it stays busy the whole time. I tried reopining the app as well. Now mind you I don't have the mobile app installed so that might be the culprit. >>> >>> Take care all. >>> On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm curious to learn what additional features you have using My Phone Desktop over Type2Phone -- apart from the fact that Type2Phone is a Mac only application that you can buy from the Mac App Store for the same price ($4.99). When I linked to Dr. Drang's blog article about setting up Type2Phone in my original list post, one of the comments on his article was from someone who used My Phone Desktop for the same purposes (typing text for mail, messages, and anywhere you would normally have to type or use copy and paste to insert text, with the option of copying from your Mac's clipboard -- URLs, selected text, etc.). The response was that since Type2Phone worked through a Bluetooth connection, you could continue to use your Mac keyboard to type on your iOS device, and copy and paste information from your Mac, even without having an active internet connection for your computer. My understanding is that by having to use a web interface with My Phone Desktop, you must hav e > y >> our computer on an active internet connection to use it with your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. Is this correct? I'm just trying to understand the pros and cons of these apps, and the various options we have for using our computer keyboards for the iOS devices. If anyone has tried both Type2Phone and My Phone Desktop it would be great to hear a comparison of features, and what is best about each. >>>> >>>> Certainly, if it's easier to make calls through the web browser interface with MyPhoneDesktop that would be interesting to know. >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Thu Jan 5 20:29:36 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:29:36 +0000 Subject: Lumin iPhone iPod iPad app In-Reply-To: References: <4F05D1BD.4080700@techno-chat.net> <920E7DE7-B783-4C6A-9263-3477B637B6E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F060830.6000404@techno-chat.net> It is a light up magnifying glass effectively. On 05/01/2012 17:37, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Agreed. what is it. I don't havd the time to click on the link. > > Take care. > On Jan 5, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > >> A one liner about what this does would be nice, rather than expecting us all to go look at a link with no explanation. Thanks. >> >> Mary >> >> Mary Otten >> motten53 at gmail.com >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Thu Jan 5 20:31:50 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:31:50 +0000 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <8C906A5E-A2E0-4F5D-A58C-1169E392CF9A@mac.com> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net> <01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com> <19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com> <4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> <4F05D554.7080400@techno-chat.net> <8C906A5E-A2E0-4F5D-A58C-1169E392CF9A@mac.com> Message-ID: <4F0608B6.1010407@techno-chat.net> I don't know Type 2 Phone but My Phone Desktop allows you to make calls, send text messages, open URLs in Safari, upload photos to your device, as well as copy text to the iOS clipboard. On 05/01/2012 17:11, Esther wrote: > Hi, > > I'm curious to learn what additional features you have using My Phone Desktop over Type2Phone -- apart from the fact that Type2Phone is a Mac only application that you can buy from the Mac App Store for the same price ($4.99). When I linked to Dr. Drang's blog article about setting up Type2Phone in my original list post, one of the comments on his article was from someone who used My Phone Desktop for the same purposes (typing text for mail, messages, and anywhere you would normally have to type or use copy and paste to insert text, with the option of copying from your Mac's clipboard -- URLs, selected text, etc.). The response was that since Type2Phone worked through a Bluetooth connection, you could continue to use your Mac keyboard to type on your iOS device, and copy and paste information from your Mac, even without having an active internet connection for your computer. My understanding is that by having to use a web interface with My Phone Desktop, you must have y our computer on an active internet connection to use it with your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. Is this correct? I'm just trying to understand the pros and cons of these apps, and the various options we have for using our computer keyboards for the iOS devices. If anyone has tried both Type2Phone and My Phone Desktop it would be great to hear a comparison of features, and what is best about each. > > Certainly, if it's easier to make calls through the web browser interface with MyPhoneDesktop that would be interesting to know. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:52, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Thanks, they don't but I checked the iTunes app store and that's where I found and thus paid for it. It was ?2.99 here in the UK. >> >> On 05/01/2012 05:26, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I just looked at the site. what they don't say is the iPhone app cost 4.99 whilst the mac app looks to be free. >>> >>> >>> Just thought I' let everyone know. >>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:32 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>> >>>> www.myphonedesktop.com. >>>> >>>> On 02/01/2012 19:10, Courtney Curran wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think I saw a link to go get it. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Courtney >>>>> On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've got it now. Thanks for that. I don't like the way that the whole registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the Melbourne Weather gets to warm. >>>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>>> iMessage: cjsims at me.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>>>>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. You can: >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be pasted later. >>>>>>>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>>>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>>>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility comments. >>>>>>>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy! > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Fri Jan 6 00:01:02 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 11:01:02 +1100 Subject: vOICe app? In-Reply-To: <4C57F667EE414B859A643865802DEB5B@your2c061f0461> References: <4C57F667EE414B859A643865802DEB5B@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <34E43CE7-5278-4A0C-A8BC-852C4C2D013E@bluebottle.com> yes vision hunt does a similar thing On 06/01/2012, at 5:43 AM, Glenn wrote: > Hi All, > There is a neat software for PCs called the vOICe. > It is a program that not only is a color detector, but it sonifies the > environment, by sending a tone from left to right as it scans the scene the > camera sees, and it uses a higher tone as it traces an image as the tracer > rises in the view. > So you can locate things by learning to determine what the sound is telling > you. > I have used this on my laptop, and I recently contacted the developer of > this great, and free software about making an IOS app, but he indicated that > there is something prohibitive about making such an app for IOS devices. > My question is, does anyone know if there is an app that does a similar > function? > Thanks. > Glenn > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Fri Jan 6 00:26:58 2012 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 18:26:58 -0600 Subject: vOICe app? References: <4C57F667EE414B859A643865802DEB5B@your2c061f0461> <34E43CE7-5278-4A0C-A8BC-852C4C2D013E@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <8D33A2DCDE18473C8953054FBC9ACEF3@your2c061f0461> I have vision hunt, but I have only noticed that it does color identification and a light source indicator. The vOICe maps your environment for you. Is there something I missed with Vision Hunt? Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "krystal watson" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:01 PM Subject: Re: vOICe app? yes vision hunt does a similar thing On 06/01/2012, at 5:43 AM, Glenn wrote: > Hi All, > There is a neat software for PCs called the vOICe. > It is a program that not only is a color detector, but it sonifies the > environment, by sending a tone from left to right as it scans the scene > the > camera sees, and it uses a higher tone as it traces an image as the tracer > rises in the view. > So you can locate things by learning to determine what the sound is > telling > you. > I have used this on my laptop, and I recently contacted the developer of > this great, and free software about making an IOS app, but he indicated > that > there is something prohibitive about making such an app for IOS devices. > My question is, does anyone know if there is an app that does a similar > function? > Thanks. > Glenn > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From gunn at tznet.com Fri Jan 6 03:45:02 2012 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 21:45:02 -0600 Subject: Drag and Drop Message-ID: Hello All: I have a friend running Lion, latest updates, 4GB of ram and she can't drag and drop. I've walked her through the process and for example interacts on the folder where she wants to drop the file, "failed to drop" and of course gives the location. When doing VO comma to mark the file, message file marked to drag and drop. She's using a MacBook Pro 13 inch early 2011 and I'm using an iMac early 2008 having no issues. We've gon as far as importing each other's VoiceOver preferences and still no luck. Permissions repair in the Lion recovery have done also. Any thoughts would be appreciated. If anyone would like, I did a Lion drag and drop for Main Menu last month and have the file I recorded myself as a demo. If interested, I'll put the file in my DropBox. Take care, John From gunn at tznet.com Fri Jan 6 04:01:36 2012 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 22:01:36 -0600 Subject: Drag and Drop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello: You can disregard the below messHello All: I forgot about command-option-v for moving a file although I'd be interested if anyone can drag and drop a file by using VO comma and VO period. Take care, John age, I forgot about command-optionv for moving the file.Although I would be interested if anyone has the issue. On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:45 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Hello All: > > I have a friend running Lion, latest updates, 4GB of ram and she can't drag and drop. > > I've walked her through the process and for example interacts on the folder where she wants to drop the file, "failed to drop" and of course gives the location. > > When doing VO comma to mark the file, message file marked to drag and drop. > > She's using a MacBook Pro 13 inch early 2011 and I'm using an iMac early 2008 having no issues. > > We've gon as far as importing each other's VoiceOver preferences and still no luck. > > Permissions repair in the Lion recovery have done also. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. If anyone would like, I did a Lion drag and drop for Main Menu last month and have the file I recorded myself as a demo. > > If interested, I'll put the file in my DropBox. > > Take care, > > John > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Jan 6 06:09:57 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 06:09:57 +0000 Subject: story mill. Message-ID: Hi, just bought storymill, Have to say i'm very impressed with it. Only read the tutorial so far but i'm very impressed and can't wait to start using it properly smiley. Ian McNamara From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Fri Jan 6 09:00:05 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:00:05 +1100 Subject: story mill. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com> what does this thing do On 06/01/2012, at 5:09 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi, just bought storymill, Have to say i'm very impressed with it. Only read the tutorial so far but i'm very impressed and can't wait to start using it properly smiley. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Jan 6 09:20:18 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:20:18 +0000 Subject: story mill. In-Reply-To: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com> References: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <370BF419-BDD8-4C51-8C51-9F780A490531@googlemail.com> Hi it's a program that helps you write stories. Basicly you can have your novel all kept together in a tidy format. It's a lovely program. If i don't get the job i'm applying for i'll be making good use of it. Ian McNamara From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 13:04:53 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 08:04:53 -0500 Subject: vOICe app? In-Reply-To: References: <4C57F667EE414B859A643865802DEB5B@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: I heard there was a iphone app or android app but don't remember which one and this is about all I know without doing a Google! HTH Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:02 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: vOICe app? No. I don't think there is. sorry to bring bad news. If there is I'd like to know as well. On Jan 5, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Glenn wrote: > Hi All, > There is a neat software for PCs called the vOICe. > It is a program that not only is a color detector, but it sonifies the > environment, by sending a tone from left to right as it scans the scene the > camera sees, and it uses a higher tone as it traces an image as the tracer > rises in the view. > So you can locate things by learning to determine what the sound is telling > you. > I have used this on my laptop, and I recently contacted the developer of > this great, and free software about making an IOS app, but he indicated that > there is something prohibitive about making such an app for IOS devices. > My question is, does anyone know if there is an app that does a similar > function? > Thanks. > Glenn > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Fri Jan 6 13:50:49 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 00:50:49 +1100 Subject: story mill. In-Reply-To: <370BF419-BDD8-4C51-8C51-9F780A490531@googlemail.com> References: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com> <370BF419-BDD8-4C51-8C51-9F780A490531@googlemail.com> Message-ID: is it a mac app or i o s app smiles On 06/01/2012, at 8:20 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi it's a program that helps you write stories. Basicly you can have your novel all kept together in a tidy format. It's a lovely program. If i don't get the job i'm applying for i'll be making good use of it. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 13:52:28 2012 From: sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com (Sadam Ahmed) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 00:52:28 +1100 Subject: IPhone 4S purchase Message-ID: <58249036-DEE9-4953-90BF-00082500C26D@gmail.com> Hi all, I am pleased to announce that I have purchased a new iPhone 4S. I'm wondering if there is a way to interact with Siri? Also can you use a MicroSim part iPad 2 plus 3G in the iPhone 4S? Kind regards, and happy New Year all. Sent from my iPhone From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 6 13:56:27 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 13:56:27 +0000 Subject: story mill. In-Reply-To: References: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com> <370BF419-BDD8-4C51-8C51-9F780A490531@googlemail.com> Message-ID: It's a Mac app, and is made by Mariner. You can find more info on Mariner's site at: http://www.marinersoftware.com/products/storymill/ You should also be able to find it in the App Store TC :) James You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 6 Jan 2012, at 13:50, krystal watson wrote: > is it a mac app or i o s app smiles > On 06/01/2012, at 8:20 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > >> Hi it's a program that helps you write stories. Basicly you can have your novel all kept together in a tidy format. It's a lovely program. If i don't get the job i'm applying for i'll be making good use of it. >> >> Ian McNamara >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From terrycooper10 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 6 14:26:37 2012 From: terrycooper10 at hotmail.com (Terry Cooper) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 14:26:37 +0000 Subject: test Message-ID: From terrycooper10 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 6 14:31:57 2012 From: terrycooper10 at hotmail.com (Terry Cooper) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 14:31:57 +0000 Subject: Automatic reading of text Message-ID: Hi all As the subject says. How do you stop voice over from automatically reading text when they arrive? I like the feature, but gets annoying when you receive a text when you are on the phone, as it stops you from being able to hear the other person. Thanks as always. Terry From GlennErvin at cableone.net Fri Jan 6 15:37:56 2012 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:37:56 -0600 Subject: story mill. References: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com> <370BF419-BDD8-4C51-8C51-9F780A490531@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <676038906F0E48689E9BF38A318DBCE4@your2c061f0461> Hi, Why couldn't you have added at least this much information to your first message. It serves the list no purpose to send a message such as "I like this app". If you can't sell it to the list, don't bother telling us about it. There are thousands of useful apps, but only a handful may be of interest, and we are not interested in following up on a link based on its name, or the fact that someone likes it. Thank you. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian McNamara" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 3:20 AM Subject: Re: story mill. Hi it's a program that helps you write stories. Basicly you can have your novel all kept together in a tidy format. It's a lovely program. If i don't get the job i'm applying for i'll be making good use of it. Ian McNamara <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Jan 6 16:09:11 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 16:09:11 +0000 Subject: story mill. In-Reply-To: References: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com> <370BF419-BDD8-4C51-8C51-9F780A490531@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <279CF2AB-AC14-41EF-8342-738416944D94@googlemail.com> Mac app. It's fantastic i like it just learning how to use it properly. Ian McNamara From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 16:35:31 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 10:35:31 -0600 Subject: Automatic reading of text References: Message-ID: Go into settings -> general -> accessibility -> voiceOver and toggle the switch labeled: "Speak Notifications in Lock Screen". HTH. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Cooper To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Automatic reading of text Hi all As the subject says. How do you stop voice over from automatically reading text when they arrive? I like the feature, but gets annoying when you receive a text when you are on the phone, as it stops you from being able to hear the other person. Thanks as always. Terry <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 17:27:25 2012 From: jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com (Jonathan Tyrer) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 17:27:25 +0000 Subject: story mill. In-Reply-To: <279CF2AB-AC14-41EF-8342-738416944D94@googlemail.com> References: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com> <370BF419-BDD8-4C51-8C51-9F780A490531@googlemail.com> <279CF2AB-AC14-41EF-8342-738416944D94@googlemail.com> Message-ID: It's cool that there's an app of this sort that is useable. It would be great if you could do a write-up for the Mac section of AppleVis. JT On 06/01/2012, Ian McNamara wrote: > Mac app. It's fantastic i like it just learning how to use it properly. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 6 17:30:42 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 17:30:42 +0000 Subject: story mill. In-Reply-To: <676038906F0E48689E9BF38A318DBCE4@your2c061f0461> References: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com> <370BF419-BDD8-4C51-8C51-9F780A490531@googlemail.com> <676038906F0E48689E9BF38A318DBCE4@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <14748B39-C83B-4531-A502-8E94FD61E096@mac-access.net> Hey, chill out Glenn. We're all friends here. Ian is not the first nor will he be the last to forget to add missing details. And is it such a big deal to open up a web browser and Google something? TC :) J On 6 Jan 2012, at 15:37, Glenn wrote: > Hi, > Why couldn't you have added at least this much information to your first > message. > It serves the list no purpose to send a message such as "I like this app". > If you can't sell it to the list, don't bother telling us about it. > There are thousands of useful apps, but only a handful may be of interest, > and we are not interested in following up on a link based on its name, or > the fact that someone likes it. > Thank you. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian McNamara" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 3:20 AM > Subject: Re: story mill. > > > Hi it's a program that helps you write stories. Basicly you can have your > novel all kept together in a tidy format. It's a lovely program. If i don't > get the job i'm applying for i'll be making good use of it. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From helianthe at mac-access.net Fri Jan 6 17:31:07 2012 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & her faithful furry friends) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 18:31:07 +0100 Subject: iCloud Mail broken and the fix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Eric for the tips, will contact apple to see if they can reset the password and take it from there. My Icloud email has not been working for quite some time now. In fact, I can send emails from it but I can't receive emails to this account. Every time I send an email to my icloud address the message comes back with a delivery error with something like "user unknown"?strange indeed so I'll definitely get in touch withapple to see what can be done about this. Again thanks for the tips, really appreciate it. Take care, Lyn, Canelle & Epi From GlennErvin at cableone.net Fri Jan 6 17:36:09 2012 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 11:36:09 -0600 Subject: story mill. References: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com><370BF419-BDD8-4C51-8C51-9F780A490531@googlemail.com><676038906F0E48689E9BF38A318DBCE4@your2c061f0461> <14748B39-C83B-4531-A502-8E94FD61E096@mac-access.net> Message-ID: James, If we don't let folks know how to interact on a list, the list etiquette will diminish. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "James AUSTIN" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 11:30 AM Subject: Re: story mill. Hey, chill out Glenn. We're all friends here. Ian is not the first nor will he be the last to forget to add missing details. And is it such a big deal to open up a web browser and Google something? TC :) J On 6 Jan 2012, at 15:37, Glenn wrote: > Hi, > Why couldn't you have added at least this much information to your first > message. > It serves the list no purpose to send a message such as "I like this app". > If you can't sell it to the list, don't bother telling us about it. > There are thousands of useful apps, but only a handful may be of interest, > and we are not interested in following up on a link based on its name, or > the fact that someone likes it. > Thank you. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian McNamara" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 3:20 AM > Subject: Re: story mill. > > > Hi it's a program that helps you write stories. Basicly you can have your > novel all kept together in a tidy format. It's a lovely program. If i > don't > get the job i'm applying for i'll be making good use of it. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Jan 6 17:37:07 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 17:37:07 +0000 Subject: story mill. In-Reply-To: References: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com> <370BF419-BDD8-4C51-8C51-9F780A490531@googlemail.com> <279CF2AB-AC14-41EF-8342-738416944D94@googlemail.com> Message-ID: I might when i can properly use it. I've only just got it but thats a thought. Ian. From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Jan 6 17:39:51 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 17:39:51 +0000 Subject: story mill. In-Reply-To: <14748B39-C83B-4531-A502-8E94FD61E096@mac-access.net> References: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com> <370BF419-BDD8-4C51-8C51-9F780A490531@googlemail.com> <676038906F0E48689E9BF38A318DBCE4@your2c061f0461> <14748B39-C83B-4531-A502-8E94FD61E096@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <865160A6-8D68-400A-A455-F887CA93F635@googlemail.com> Well i've only looked at it properly this afternoon so that's why. Plus most of you are more experianced mac users than me so i thought you might all have allready heard of it. I will not bother putting apps i like on the list again if people are going to be like that. Ian McNamara From GlennErvin at cableone.net Fri Jan 6 17:44:58 2012 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 11:44:58 -0600 Subject: story mill. References: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com><370BF419-BDD8-4C51-8C51-9F780A490531@googlemail.com><676038906F0E48689E9BF38A318DBCE4@your2c061f0461><14748B39-C83B-4531-A502-8E94FD61E096@mac-access.net> <865160A6-8D68-400A-A455-F887CA93F635@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <2F9FE4BA336B4AC19A09F58D2516A0EF@your2c061f0461> Ian, Please don't be "thin skinned" about this. Anyone posting to the list about an app should tell about it, assuming that nobody knows about it. Unless of course you are asking for information on such an app, which perhaps someone might be able to help you. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian McNamara" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: story mill. Well i've only looked at it properly this afternoon so that's why. Plus most of you are more experianced mac users than me so i thought you might all have allready heard of it. I will not bother putting apps i like on the list again if people are going to be like that. Ian McNamara <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Jan 6 17:51:29 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 17:51:29 +0000 Subject: story mill. In-Reply-To: <2F9FE4BA336B4AC19A09F58D2516A0EF@your2c061f0461> References: <0DCD3E7D-DDEA-4336-A06D-22D1C4EFB778@bluebottle.com><370BF419-BDD8-4C51-8C51-9F780A490531@googlemail.com><676038906F0E48689E9BF38A318DBCE4@your2c061f0461><14748B39-C83B-4531-A502-8E94FD61E096@mac-access.net> <865160A6-8D68-400A-A455-F887CA93F635@googlemail.com> <2F9FE4BA336B4AC19A09F58D2516A0EF@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <7DD82FE4-B1A2-4BB2-9D04-E3B3F21F9AE8@googlemail.com> Well Maybey fair enough. I was thinking of doing an audio review of it when i'm better able to use it. Ian McNamara From anne at anarchie.org.uk Fri Jan 6 18:24:10 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:24:10 +0100 Subject: Drag and Drop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <763C11CA-1AA4-4FFD-93A4-CFB6A926B086@anarchie.org.uk> Hello John, Drag&Drop works for me. If you want to drag a file into a folder, you do VO-Comma on the file, navigate to the folder and press VO-Period and the file will move into the folder. If you're dragging from one window to another, both windows must be visible on the screen. You can use the commands for moving windows to put one at the top left and the other at the bottom right of the screen to be sure that they're both visible. Cheers, Anne On 6 Jan 2012, at 05:01, John Gunn wrote: > Hello: > > You can disregard the below messHello All: > > I forgot about command-option-v for moving a file although I'd be interested if anyone can drag and drop a file by using VO comma and VO period. > > Take care, > > John > > age, I forgot about command-optionv for moving the file.Although I would be interested if anyone has the issue. > > > On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:45 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Hello All: >> >> I have a friend running Lion, latest updates, 4GB of ram and she can't drag and drop. >> >> I've walked her through the process and for example interacts on the folder where she wants to drop the file, "failed to drop" and of course gives the location. >> >> When doing VO comma to mark the file, message file marked to drag and drop. >> >> She's using a MacBook Pro 13 inch early 2011 and I'm using an iMac early 2008 having no issues. >> >> We've gon as far as importing each other's VoiceOver preferences and still no luck. >> >> Permissions repair in the Lion recovery have done also. >> >> Any thoughts would be appreciated. If anyone would like, I did a Lion drag and drop for Main Menu last month and have the file I recorded myself as a demo. >> >> If interested, I'll put the file in my DropBox. >> >> Take care, >> >> John >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Fri Jan 6 18:42:58 2012 From: gunn at tznet.com (gunn at tznet.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 13:42:58 -0500 Subject: Drag and Drop Message-ID: <380-22012156184258695@M2W130.mail2web.com> Hello Anne: Oh, it works for me, basicaly asking for a friend of mine who can't get it to work on her MacBook Pro early 2011. Ihave no issues on the iMac. Thanks for your thoughts though. John Original Message: ----------------- From: Anne Robertson anne at anarchie.org.uk Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:24:10 +0100 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Re: Drag and Drop Hello John, Drag&Drop works for me. If you want to drag a file into a folder, you do VO-Comma on the file, navigate to the folder and press VO-Period and the file will move into the folder. If you're dragging from one window to another, both windows must be visible on the screen. You can use the commands for moving windows to put one at the top left and the other at the bottom right of the screen to be sure that they're both visible. Cheers, Anne On 6 Jan 2012, at 05:01, John Gunn wrote: > Hello: > > You can disregard the below messHello All: > > I forgot about command-option-v for moving a file although I'd be interested if anyone can drag and drop a file by using VO comma and VO period. > > Take care, > > John > > age, I forgot about command-optionv for moving the file.Although I would be interested if anyone has the issue. > > > On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:45 PM, John Gunn wrote: > >> Hello All: >> >> I have a friend running Lion, latest updates, 4GB of ram and she can't drag and drop. >> >> I've walked her through the process and for example interacts on the folder where she wants to drop the file, "failed to drop" and of course gives the location. >> >> When doing VO comma to mark the file, message file marked to drag and drop. >> >> She's using a MacBook Pro 13 inch early 2011 and I'm using an iMac early 2008 having no issues. >> >> We've gon as far as importing each other's VoiceOver preferences and still no luck. >> >> Permissions repair in the Lion recovery have done also. >> >> Any thoughts would be appreciated. If anyone would like, I did a Lion drag and drop for Main Menu last month and have the file I recorded myself as a demo. >> >> If interested, I'll put the file in my DropBox. >> >> Take care, >> >> John >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Jan 6 19:01:55 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:01:55 +0000 Subject: Drag and Drop In-Reply-To: <763C11CA-1AA4-4FFD-93A4-CFB6A926B086@anarchie.org.uk> References: <763C11CA-1AA4-4FFD-93A4-CFB6A926B086@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <14E7F699-69EB-4222-8AD7-59626B1235FD@googlemail.com> Hello, every time i press vo and comma it just makes sounds but does not seem to do anything. Ian McNamara From gunn at tznet.com Fri Jan 6 19:35:18 2012 From: gunn at tznet.com (gunn at tznet.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 14:35:18 -0500 Subject: Drag and Drop Message-ID: <380-22012156193518754@M2W112.mail2web.com> Hello: You have to interact with the item you want to move. John Original Message: ----------------- From: Ian McNamara ianandriggs at googlemail.com Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:01:55 +0000 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Re: Drag and Drop Hello, every time i press vo and comma it just makes sounds but does not seem to do anything. Ian McNamara <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Jan 6 19:45:58 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:45:58 +0000 Subject: Drag and Drop In-Reply-To: <380-22012156193518754@M2W112.mail2web.com> References: <380-22012156193518754@M2W112.mail2web.com> Message-ID: Ok thanks will give it a try in a bit smiley. Ian McNamara From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 20:33:53 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 12:33:53 -0800 Subject: Automatic reading of text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually I don't think that will work. Mine is on as well and it will still read them when the screen is not locked. Drives me nuts. On Jan 6, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Go into settings -> general -> accessibility -> voiceOver and toggle the switch labeled: "Speak Notifications in Lock Screen". > > HTH. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Terry Cooper > To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:31 AM > Subject: Automatic reading of text > > > Hi all > As the subject says. > > How do you stop voice over from automatically reading text when they arrive? > > > > I like the feature, but gets annoying when you receive a text when you are > on the phone, as it stops you from being able to hear the other person. > Thanks as always. > Terry > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Fri Jan 6 21:23:02 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:23:02 +0000 Subject: Vokul Message-ID: <4F076636.7060403@techno-chat.net> I wonder if anyone has tried this Siri alternative yet. Here is the link on the Applevis website. http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/music/vokul From venables134 at btinternet.com Fri Jan 6 21:26:30 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 21:26:30 +0000 Subject: A mail question or two Message-ID: <215AC4E7-A648-4ED3-9349-0950AC3945FF@btinternet.com> Hi all have a couple of mail questions for you. 1. When receiving mail, if I get a lot of mail. Example 28 messages for this list, why doesn't VO remember where I left off previously. To give you an example, going with the 28 messages well next time I use my Mac and have received all of those messages, I would be on 26 therefore I would have to arrow down twice my messages being sorted in the most recent at the very top and then start going up the list of unread ones. In other words, way doesn't VO stay on the message I last left it. If that makes any sense. 2. More simple this question and its simply is there any way to get VO to announce a message being unread. At present arrowing up and down unread messages makes them as red. I am using Lion with all latest updates. I also have Mail set in the standard view but I have disabled the conversation threading thing. Look forward to hearing from all you experienced Mac Mail users! Daniel From fitzcl at centurylink.net Fri Jan 6 21:39:50 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 13:39:50 -0800 Subject: Getting to the address bar in Safari Message-ID: <003201ccccbb$b89895e0$29c9c1a0$@net> If I am on a web page in Safari and I want to get to a new web page, how do I type in the web address. Is there a command to put me in that spot?\\Catherine G Olympia, Washington From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 22:14:55 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 14:14:55 -0800 Subject: Getting to the address bar in Safari In-Reply-To: <003201ccccbb$b89895e0$29c9c1a0$@net> References: <003201ccccbb$b89895e0$29c9c1a0$@net> Message-ID: <8D8D5DB8-E83D-4AB8-ACBE-942E6B3A2D04@gmail.com> You use cmd l to get there but if you want to open it in a new window once you've typed it in I don't know how to do that yet. Take care. On Jan 6, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Catherine G wrote: > If I am on a web page in Safari and I want to get to a new web page, how do > I type in the web address. Is there a command to put me in that > spot?\\Catherine G > > Olympia, Washington > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Fri Jan 6 22:31:51 2012 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Thejazzden) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 22:31:51 +0000 Subject: Vokul In-Reply-To: <4F076636.7060403@techno-chat.net> References: <4F076636.7060403@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <0DB84D9F-AE7F-4E95-AE05-51649C806BF5@thejazzden.org.uk> not showing up in the UK AppStore, Chris. Now why doesn't that surprise me? Unless it's been pulled already. :) Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone On 6 Jan 2012, at 21:23, chris hallsworth wrote: > I wonder if anyone has tried this Siri alternative yet. Here is the link on the Applevis website. http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/music/vokul > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 22:32:33 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 16:32:33 -0600 Subject: Automatic reading of text References: Message-ID: <2EE59670C3C849D08F5F1A10C2DD7926@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Sarah, You are describing the behavior I would expect. Are your texts and notifications also read when that switch is toggled off? If so that sounds like a bug that I am not experiencing on my 4S running 5.01. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Alawami To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Automatic reading of text Actually I don't think that will work. Mine is on as well and it will still read them when the screen is not locked. Drives me nuts. On Jan 6, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Go into settings -> general -> accessibility -> voiceOver and toggle the switch labeled: "Speak Notifications in Lock Screen". > > HTH. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Terry Cooper > To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:31 AM > Subject: Automatic reading of text > > > Hi all > As the subject says. > > How do you stop voice over from automatically reading text when they arrive? > > > > I like the feature, but gets annoying when you receive a text when you are > on the phone, as it stops you from being able to hear the other person. > Thanks as always. > Terry > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 22:47:05 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 14:47:05 -0800 Subject: Automatic reading of text In-Reply-To: <2EE59670C3C849D08F5F1A10C2DD7926@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <2EE59670C3C849D08F5F1A10C2DD7926@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <9032E81A-FC83-42AC-9DEA-0EF773BB93F5@gmail.com> They do. They do not read when the screen is locked and the notification comes in and you view the lock screen but they will always read on the home screen. even when your phone is muted. On Jan 6, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > You are describing the behavior I would expect. Are your texts and notifications also read when that switch is toggled off? If so that sounds like a bug that I am not experiencing on my 4S running 5.01. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sarah Alawami > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: Automatic reading of text > > > Actually I don't think that will work. Mine is on as well and it will still read them when the screen is not locked. Drives me nuts. > On Jan 6, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Go into settings -> general -> accessibility -> voiceOver and toggle the switch labeled: "Speak Notifications in Lock Screen". >> >> HTH. >> Geoff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Terry Cooper >> To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' >> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:31 AM >> Subject: Automatic reading of text >> >> >> Hi all >> As the subject says. >> >> How do you stop voice over from automatically reading text when they arrive? >> >> >> >> I like the feature, but gets annoying when you receive a text when you are >> on the phone, as it stops you from being able to hear the other person. >> Thanks as always. >> Terry >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 22:52:56 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 14:52:56 -0800 Subject: Vokul In-Reply-To: <4F076636.7060403@techno-chat.net> References: <4F076636.7060403@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <37CE3107-9F02-4B35-9311-6864F5135F9C@gmail.com> It's in the us app store. It sounds pretty neat. although 20 dictations per 24 hours sucks. I hope they can get it upgraded to 200 but even then that's not a lot. link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vokul/id438635599?mt=8 Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jan 6, 2012, at 1:23 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > I wonder if anyone has tried this Siri alternative yet. Here is the link on the Applevis website. http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/music/vokul > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From djden at thejazzden.org.uk Fri Jan 6 23:29:08 2012 From: djden at thejazzden.org.uk (Thejazzden) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 23:29:08 +0000 Subject: Vokul In-Reply-To: <37CE3107-9F02-4B35-9311-6864F5135F9C@gmail.com> References: <4F076636.7060403@techno-chat.net> <37CE3107-9F02-4B35-9311-6864F5135F9C@gmail.com> Message-ID: that's also the official number for Dragon Dictate and Search, also I think for Vlingo but i've never been told I've exceeded my limit. Dennis Freedman The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk Sent from my iPhone On 6 Jan 2012, at 22:52, Sarah Alawami wrote: > It's in the us app store. It sounds pretty neat. although 20 dictations per 24 hours sucks. I hope they can get it upgraded to 200 but even then that's not a lot. > > link: > > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vokul/id438635599?mt=8 > > Take care all. > > Sarah Alawami > > If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. > If you need to contact me my info is below. > MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Jan 6, 2012, at 1:23 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> I wonder if anyone has tried this Siri alternative yet. Here is the link on the Applevis website. http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/music/vokul >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 23:48:50 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 15:48:50 -0800 Subject: Vokul In-Reply-To: References: <4F076636.7060403@techno-chat.net> <37CE3107-9F02-4B35-9311-6864F5135F9C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hmm interesting. I might give this app a try once I get dementions. lol! but it seems like i could be a good alternative to seri if it should go down lol! On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Thejazzden wrote: > that's also the official number for Dragon Dictate and Search, also I think for Vlingo but i've never been told I've exceeded my limit. > > > Dennis Freedman > The best aromatherapy in the UK - www.e-nat.co.uk > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 6 Jan 2012, at 22:52, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> It's in the us app store. It sounds pretty neat. although 20 dictations per 24 hours sucks. I hope they can get it upgraded to 200 but even then that's not a lot. >> >> link: >> >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vokul/id438635599?mt=8 >> >> Take care all. >> >> Sarah Alawami >> >> If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. >> If you need to contact me my info is below. >> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> >> On Jan 6, 2012, at 1:23 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >>> I wonder if anyone has tried this Siri alternative yet. Here is the link on the Applevis website. http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/music/vokul >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From venables134 at btinternet.com Sat Jan 7 00:03:54 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 00:03:54 +0000 Subject: Getting to the address bar in Safari In-Reply-To: <003201ccccbb$b89895e0$29c9c1a0$@net> References: <003201ccccbb$b89895e0$29c9c1a0$@net> Message-ID: <385B2B49-8FEE-49C3-80CE-6B860CA874C1@btinternet.com> Hi Catherine, command L is the keyboard command that you need to get into the address bar. Adding to that if you want to delete the whole address that is command A this will highlight the text in there press the delete key or backspace key and once its all gone, you are good to go in typing a new address! Hope this helps you. Daniel On 6 Jan 2012, at 21:39, Catherine G wrote: > Catherine From sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 01:34:07 2012 From: sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com (Sadam Ahmed) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 12:34:07 +1100 Subject: IPhone 4S purchase. Message-ID: <38C7EAD9-8382-4D4B-A747-6759E899920D@gmail.com> Hi folks. I bought myself an iPhone 4s just wondering how Siri works? And how to sync my current apps and books? Any help be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, and happy New Year Sadam. Sent from my iPhone From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 01:41:53 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 17:41:53 -0800 Subject: IPhone 4S purchase. In-Reply-To: <38C7EAD9-8382-4D4B-A747-6759E899920D@gmail.com> References: <38C7EAD9-8382-4D4B-A747-6759E899920D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Just plug in to your itunes and choose what you want to synch. As for seri just hold down hime until you hear 2 tones and speak what you want seri to do. I don't knwo fully how seri works as I can't upgrade until june of this year. lol! On Jan 6, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > Hi folks. I bought myself an iPhone 4s just wondering how Siri works? And how to sync my current apps and books? Any help be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, and happy New Year Sadam. > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 03:08:48 2012 From: sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com (Sadam Ahmed) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 14:08:48 +1100 Subject: IPhone 4 S purchase Message-ID: Okay, thank you Sarah. I think you'll enjoy the iPhone 4S once you get it. Apart from speed improvements I haven't noticed anything different to my previous iPhone 4. How about widest activation is that possible with the iPhone 4S? Thanks and kind regards, Saddam. Sent from my iPhone From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sat Jan 7 03:45:57 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 03:45:57 +0000 Subject: Getting to the address bar in Safari In-Reply-To: <385B2B49-8FEE-49C3-80CE-6B860CA874C1@btinternet.com> References: <003201ccccbb$b89895e0$29c9c1a0$@net> <385B2B49-8FEE-49C3-80CE-6B860CA874C1@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Hi smiley, yep it's command l, to get to the address bar. If you want to add a bookmark it's command d and you can select witch book mark folder you want it to go in there's a pop up menu to do this. Any help you need feel free to email ianandriggs at googlemail.com i am also on skype heeman2730 i've only had my mac since last september but will help any one who needs it the best i can. Ian McNamara From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 09:33:13 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 01:33:13 -0800 Subject: IPhone 4 S purchase In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20C71B88-DAFF-42B9-941E-FDE5DCCE6F75@gmail.com> Not sure what you mean by widest activation but still congrads on the purchase. On Jan 6, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > Okay, thank you Sarah. I think you'll enjoy the iPhone 4S once you get it. Apart from speed improvements I haven't noticed anything different to my previous iPhone 4. How about widest activation is that possible with the iPhone 4S? Thanks and kind regards, Saddam. > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 09:41:43 2012 From: sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com (Sadam Ahmed) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:41:43 +1100 Subject: IPhone 4 S purchase Message-ID: Sorry. I meant wireless activation, Sent from my iPhone From christoap at sky.com Sat Jan 7 11:30:35 2012 From: christoap at sky.com ( Christo Thiardt) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 11:30:35 -0000 Subject: FineReader & Scanning Message-ID: <000401cccd2f$c6b501d0$541f0570$@com> Hello I have used FineReader extensively in PC world both for scanning documents and deciphering PDF files. My question is - is FineReader (or something similar) available for the Mac and, if so, is it suitably accessible for a blind user? Many thanks in advance Christo From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Jan 7 12:09:31 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:09:31 +0000 Subject: Passcode lock Message-ID: <4F0835FB.8020702@techno-chat.net> I thought I would check out this feature on my iPhone. I love how you can erase all the data on the phone after 10 failed attempts, as well as how long it takes before the passcode is required. I also like the keypad style when you enter the passcode. Go to settings, general, passcode lock and have a look. From opensesame at me.com Sat Jan 7 13:24:16 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 08:24:16 -0500 Subject: FineReader & Scanning In-Reply-To: <000401cccd2f$c6b501d0$541f0570$@com> References: <000401cccd2f$c6b501d0$541f0570$@com> Message-ID: <5798699A-CB26-45C8-9083-9B28569B08C5@me.com> Hello Christo, ABBYY sells a version of FineReader for the Mac. It is called ABBYY FineReader Express and is fully VO accessible. I used it extensively this past semester to OCR PDF files as well and scanned images. I've not tried the built-in scan engine as I use VueScan to do my document scanning and then use ABBYY to OCR the resulting images. I haven't used ABBYY on Windows so I can't offer a comparison, but you can download a limited 15 day trial version of FineReader Express for Mac at the following link: http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_for_mac/trial/ HTH, Bryan On Jan 7, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Christo Thiardt wrote: > Hello > I have used FineReader extensively in PC world both for scanning documents > and deciphering PDF files. > > My question is - is FineReader (or something similar) available for the Mac > and, if so, is it suitably accessible for a blind user? > > Many thanks in advance > > Christo > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 18:53:15 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:53:15 -0800 Subject: IPhone 4 S purchase In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm still a bit lost. What do you mean by wireless activation. I know I'm going to kick myself when I hear the question restated as the answer probably is as easy as pie lol! On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:41 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > Sorry. I meant wireless activation, > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From christoap at sky.com Sat Jan 7 19:06:29 2012 From: christoap at sky.com ( Christo Thiardt) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:06:29 -0000 Subject: FineReader & Scanning In-Reply-To: <5798699A-CB26-45C8-9083-9B28569B08C5@me.com> References: <000401cccd2f$c6b501d0$541f0570$@com> <5798699A-CB26-45C8-9083-9B28569B08C5@me.com> Message-ID: <000001cccd6f$7aca3d40$705eb7c0$@com> Thank you Brian for your quick response. Most helpful indeed. Rgds Christo -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Bryan Jones Sent: 07 January 2012 13:24 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: FineReader & Scanning Importance: Low Hello Christo, ABBYY sells a version of FineReader for the Mac. It is called ABBYY FineReader Express and is fully VO accessible. I used it extensively this past semester to OCR PDF files as well and scanned images. I've not tried the built-in scan engine as I use VueScan to do my document scanning and then use ABBYY to OCR the resulting images. I haven't used ABBYY on Windows so I can't offer a comparison, but you can download a limited 15 day trial version of FineReader Express for Mac at the following link: http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_for_mac/trial/ HTH, Bryan On Jan 7, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Christo Thiardt wrote: > Hello > I have used FineReader extensively in PC world both for scanning documents > and deciphering PDF files. > > My question is - is FineReader (or something similar) available for the Mac > and, if so, is it suitably accessible for a blind user? > > Many thanks in advance > > Christo > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 19:47:18 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 14:47:18 -0500 Subject: IPhone 4S purchase. In-Reply-To: <38C7EAD9-8382-4D4B-A747-6759E899920D@gmail.com> References: <38C7EAD9-8382-4D4B-A747-6759E899920D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00ae01cccd75$2b0f4330$812dc990$@gmail.com> Well, this depends on if you are using Windows or Mac for the syncing if using windows you need to write me off list as Windows is OT on this list! I don't yet have a Mac so if you have this then someone else will need to chine in! HTH Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:34 PM To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: IPhone 4S purchase. Hi folks. I bought myself an iPhone 4s just wondering how Siri works? And how to sync my current apps and books? Any help be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, and happy New Year Sadam. Sent from my iPhone <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 20:46:58 2012 From: sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com (Sadam Ahmed) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 07:46:58 +1100 Subject: IPhone 4 S purchase. Message-ID: Thanks mate. I am indeed using a MacBook Pro 13 inch, kind regards, Sadam. Sent from my iPhone From sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 20:59:22 2012 From: sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com (Sadam Ahmed) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 07:59:22 +1100 Subject: IPhone 4 S purchase. Message-ID: <411F0937-6B9C-42CD-92E0-F781EC7EFD72@gmail.com> My question is. Is it possible for me to set up my iPhone 4S independent of my Mac? Kind regards, Sadam. Sent from my iPhone From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 21:10:22 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:10:22 -0800 Subject: IPhone 4 S purchase. In-Reply-To: <411F0937-6B9C-42CD-92E0-F781EC7EFD72@gmail.com> References: <411F0937-6B9C-42CD-92E0-F781EC7EFD72@gmail.com> Message-ID: <186250E7-B237-4FD5-8CF0-3F3C66EE2FB6@gmail.com> Sure. just go through the set up screen after triple clicking home button. You should be good to go. Iv'e used the set up wizard and if you have everything backed up to ICloud you should be good to go. On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > My question is. Is it possible for me to set up my iPhone 4S independent of my Mac? Kind regards, Sadam. > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 21:17:27 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:17:27 -0800 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fraser_Speirs_-_Blog_-_Misconceptions_About_iOS?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A0Multitasking?= Message-ID: <704B4C76-A313-4892-99F5-54522DB755E5@gmail.com> This is an interesting view on multi tasking. Enjoy the read. http://speirs.org/blog/2012/1/2/misconceptions-about-ios-multitasking.html From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 21:21:53 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:21:53 -0800 Subject: Bugs & Fixes: Solving a strange file sharing error | Macworld Message-ID: <658D5418-B49D-4E2A-8D06-436F9DF1F0DE@gmail.com> an interesting fix on how to solve file sharing issues if you have them on your macs. http://www.macworld.com/article/164672/2012/01/bugs_and_fixes_solving_a_strange_file_sharing_error.html#lsrc.rss_howto From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 21:24:32 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:24:32 -0800 Subject: Partition your hard drive with data still on it | Macworld Message-ID: <500E03D4-A19D-4109-8B26-B29873F248C1@gmail.com> step by step instructions on how to partition a hard drive and still keep data. Enjoy. http://www.macworld.com/article/164643/2012/01/live_partition.html#lsrc.rss_howto From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Thu Jan 5 10:50:15 2012 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 21:50:15 +1100 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: <3B56A8B011B240C88340E9875AE68339@your2c061f0461> References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net><01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com><19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com><4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> <3B56A8B011B240C88340E9875AE68339@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: Hi, yes. There is a client for Mac, Windows and Linux. Just visit the site and you will see. Sean On 05/01/2012, at 4:28 PM, Glenn wrote: > Is there a version for the PC? > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:26 PM > Subject: Re: My Phone Desktop > > > I just looked at the site. what they don't say is the iPhone app cost 4.99 > whilst the mac app looks to be free. > > > Just thought I' let everyone know. > On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:32 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> www.myphonedesktop.com. >> >> On 02/01/2012 19:10, Courtney Curran wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but >>> I don't think I saw a link to go get it. >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney >>> On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote: >>> >>>> I've got it now. Thanks for that. I don't like the way that the whole >>>> registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with >>>> it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the >>>> Melbourne Weather gets to warm. >>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone >>>> M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>> iMessage: cjsims at me.com >>>> >>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't >>>>>> seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't >>>>>>> always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on >>>>>>>> i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small >>>>>>>> part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to >>>>>>>>> basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. >>>>>>>>> You can: >>>>>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be >>>>>>>>> pasted later. >>>>>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not >>>>>>>>> tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the >>>>>>>>> productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility >>>>>>>>> comments. >>>>>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. >>>>>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 00:44:37 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 16:44:37 -0800 Subject: My Phone Desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4F01DE58.1090403@techno-chat.net><01EAA113-6325-4784-AD82-BE8560D5451B@gmail.com><19AA89DD-794D-463C-8FCA-27428BFD3593@gmail.com><4F021456.6040205@techno-chat.net> <8FB0BBD1-B9AC-49B1-8F68-B0335558435F@gmail.com> <3B56A8B011B240C88340E9875AE68339@your2c061f0461> Message-ID: <0251B1F5-C6AC-4920-A00C-A7C58098461D@gmail.com> The client for windows is not even usable. See my little rant about it on mac side of things. Take care. On Jan 5, 2012, at 2:50 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Hi, > > yes. There is a client for Mac, Windows and Linux. Just visit the site and you will see. > > Sean > On 05/01/2012, at 4:28 PM, Glenn wrote: > >> Is there a version for the PC? >> Glenn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sarah Alawami" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:26 PM >> Subject: Re: My Phone Desktop >> >> >> I just looked at the site. what they don't say is the iPhone app cost 4.99 >> whilst the mac app looks to be free. >> >> >> Just thought I' let everyone know. >> On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:32 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >>> www.myphonedesktop.com. >>> >>> On 02/01/2012 19:10, Courtney Curran wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Where do you get this desktop app from? Maybe I'm missing something, but >>>> I don't think I saw a link to go get it. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Courtney >>>> On 02/01/2012, at 2:05 in the Afternoon, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've got it now. Thanks for that. I don't like the way that the whole >>>>> registration works. I can't see how you log in. I'll try and play with >>>>> it later, as I'm about to head out to have breakfast and work before the >>>>> Melbourne Weather gets to warm. >>>>> Christopher Sims E: Cjsims at me.com Phone H: 0396505646 phone >>>>> M:0418558275 skype: cjsims3000 >>>>> iMessage: cjsims at me.com >>>>> >>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oh! Not good? Have you tried hitting vo shift space on the thing? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Sims wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Sara. I've just attempted to download the OSX client, and don't >>>>>>> seem to be able too. Clicking the link doesn't seem to do anything. >>>>>>> On 03/01/2012, at 5:45 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I might try it out as well.. I'm good at using my phone but I don't >>>>>>>> always want to drag the keyboard out when I'm at home lol! >>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am going to check this one out. Hate having to type a long text on >>>>>>>>> i-phone. Am bad enough using a regular keyboard let alone a small >>>>>>>>> part of an i-phone to type on. >>>>>>>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:42 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My Phone Desktop is a very clever, awesome universal iOS app to >>>>>>>>>> basically control your iOS device from your desktop or web browser. >>>>>>>>>> You can: >>>>>>>>>> 1. Make calls and send SMS messages. >>>>>>>>>> 2. Transfer text by copying it to the iOS device's clipboard to be >>>>>>>>>> pasted later. >>>>>>>>>> 3. Easily open long URLs in Safari on your iOS device. >>>>>>>>>> 4. Transfer images on your desktop to your iOS device. (note not >>>>>>>>>> tried this with the web client yet). >>>>>>>>>> I have posted the app over at www.applevis.com under the >>>>>>>>>> productivity section. Please read this for a few accessibility >>>>>>>>>> comments. >>>>>>>>>> Now, here is the link to the app in the iTunes store. >>>>>>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jproductivity-llc/id352226779?mt=8 >>>>>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rattail4 at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 01:49:41 2012 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:49:41 -0500 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Fraser_Speirs_-_Blog_-_Misconceptions_About_iOS=A0Mult?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?itasking?= In-Reply-To: <704B4C76-A313-4892-99F5-54522DB755E5@gmail.com> References: <704B4C76-A313-4892-99F5-54522DB755E5@gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't know how much I agree with this, unless my phone has a massive flaw in it as I can lose battery very quickly even after restart and with noting running -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sarah Alawami" Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 16:17 To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" Subject: Fraser Speirs - Blog - Misconceptions About iOS Multitasking > This is an interesting view on multi tasking. > > Enjoy the read. > > > http://speirs.org/blog/2012/1/2/misconceptions-about-ios-multitasking.html > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 02:19:26 2012 From: sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com (Sadam Ahmed) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 13:19:26 +1100 Subject: IPhone 4 S purchase. Message-ID: <4919C300-08E1-43E3-8A29-F39634F2B451@gmail.com> Okay, thank you very much Sarah kind regards, Sadam. Sent from my iPhone From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 03:15:49 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:15:49 -0800 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Fraser_Speirs_-_Blog_-_Misconceptions_About?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_iOS=A0Multitasking?= In-Reply-To: References: <704B4C76-A313-4892-99F5-54522DB755E5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <640BCEE2-850E-48D2-8C8D-17276F13724C@gmail.com> I don't loose battery at all even with 10 pages of apps running. lol! but it makes sence. On Jan 7, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Mike Welty wrote: > I don't know how much I agree with this, unless my phone has a massive flaw in it as I can lose battery very quickly even after restart and with noting running > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Sarah Alawami" > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 16:17 > To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" > Subject: Fraser Speirs - Blog - Misconceptions About iOS Multitasking > >> This is an interesting view on multi tasking. >> >> Enjoy the read. >> >> >> http://speirs.org/blog/2012/1/2/misconceptions-about-ios-multitasking.html >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 10:55:35 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:55:35 +0000 Subject: zombies run! iphone game Message-ID: <76B57509-D888-4FD2-A279-B8E94530D420@gmail.com> hi this youtube video shows a new audio adventure game for iphone coming in february this year. NOt sure how accessible assigning items will be when we get home though. we can use it when running or even walking with guide dogs or canes, i guess youtube video is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFqZtKvya0 the info on the game, its official site is at: https://www.zombiesrungame.com/ From sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 12:48:04 2012 From: sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com (Sadam Ahmed) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 23:48:04 +1100 Subject: IPod touch running sluggishly with iOS five Message-ID: <1833504F-A75F-4D39-8EC1-E97AD2487FB0@gmail.com> Greetings folks. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed any sluggishness with the fourth-generation iPod touch running IOS 5.01? Kind regards, Sadam. Sent from my iPhone From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 8 16:16:02 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:16:02 +0000 Subject: zombies run! iphone game In-Reply-To: <76B57509-D888-4FD2-A279-B8E94530D420@gmail.com> References: <76B57509-D888-4FD2-A279-B8E94530D420@gmail.com> Message-ID: What a cool idea. However, I've been in touch with the developers, and while they do intend to implement VoiceOver support, they will not have it ready by the time they launch. They said that they would keep me updated though, so when I know I'll pass along. TC :) J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 8 Jan 2012, at 10:55, william lomas wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFqZtKvya0 From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 16:47:03 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:47:03 +0000 Subject: zombies run! iphone game In-Reply-To: References: <76B57509-D888-4FD2-A279-B8E94530D420@gmail.com> Message-ID: why doesn't voiceover work, what support does it need? yet again we have to wait for support On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:16 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > What a cool idea. However, I've been in touch with the developers, and while they do intend to implement VoiceOver support, they will not have it ready by the time they launch. They said that they would keep me updated though, so when I know I'll pass along. > > TC :) > J > You can contact me in the following ways: > E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 10:55, william lomas wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFqZtKvya0 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 8 16:48:22 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:48:22 +0000 Subject: zombies run! iphone game In-Reply-To: References: <76B57509-D888-4FD2-A279-B8E94530D420@gmail.com> Message-ID: <969ACBEC-CD84-4C05-9DC4-F893194EFA95@mac-access.net> They didn't say, all they said was that they intended to implement support for VO and that they would keep me informed. You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 8 Jan 2012, at 16:47, william lomas wrote: > why doesn't voiceover work, what support does it need? > yet again we have to wait for support > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:16 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> What a cool idea. However, I've been in touch with the developers, and while they do intend to implement VoiceOver support, they will not have it ready by the time they launch. They said that they would keep me updated though, so when I know I'll pass along. >> >> TC :) >> J >> You can contact me in the following ways: >> E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net >> MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com >> Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you >> >> On 8 Jan 2012, at 10:55, william lomas wrote: >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFqZtKvya0 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Jan 8 17:08:49 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 17:08:49 +0000 Subject: IPod touch running sluggishly with iOS five In-Reply-To: <1833504F-A75F-4D39-8EC1-E97AD2487FB0@gmail.com> References: <1833504F-A75F-4D39-8EC1-E97AD2487FB0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F09CDA1.40508@techno-chat.net> No, but in any case where it is sluggish, try removing all apps from the app switcher, then press the sleep/wake button rapidly about five or six times to do a quick restart of the device. Next, do a reset all settings by going to settings, general, reset. Finally, erase all content and settings by going to the above place. Warning! These last two should be done as a last resort, as the former will clear your own settings while the latter also erases all data on the device, including music, apps and its associated data, etc. On 08/01/2012 12:48, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > Greetings folks. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed any sluggishness with the fourth-generation iPod touch running IOS 5.01? Kind regards, Sadam. > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From orin8722 at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 17:52:54 2012 From: orin8722 at gmail.com (Orin) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 12:52:54 -0500 Subject: zombies run! iphone game In-Reply-To: References: <76B57509-D888-4FD2-A279-B8E94530D420@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm gonna try it anyway regardless. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jan 8, 2012, at 11:47 AM, william lomas wrote: > why doesn't voiceover work, what support does it need? > yet again we have to wait for support > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:16 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> What a cool idea. However, I've been in touch with the developers, and while they do intend to implement VoiceOver support, they will not have it ready by the time they launch. They said that they would keep me updated though, so when I know I'll pass along. >> >> TC :) >> J >> You can contact me in the following ways: >> E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net >> MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com >> Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you >> >> On 8 Jan 2012, at 10:55, william lomas wrote: >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFqZtKvya0 >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Jan 8 20:38:15 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:38:15 +0000 Subject: zombies run! iphone game In-Reply-To: References: <76B57509-D888-4FD2-A279-B8E94530D420@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F09FEB7.8010605@techno-chat.net> Same here sounds cool from the video. On 08/01/2012 17:52, Orin wrote: > I'm gonna try it anyway regardless. > Orin > orin8722 at gmail.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks > Skype: orin1112 > > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 11:47 AM, william lomas wrote: > >> why doesn't voiceover work, what support does it need? >> yet again we have to wait for support >> >> On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:16 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> What a cool idea. However, I've been in touch with the developers, and while they do intend to implement VoiceOver support, they will not have it ready by the time they launch. They said that they would keep me updated though, so when I know I'll pass along. >>> >>> TC :) >>> J >>> You can contact me in the following ways: >>> E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net >>> MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com >>> Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2012, at 10:55, william lomas wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFqZtKvya0 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com Sun Jan 8 22:58:29 2012 From: sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com (Sadam Ahmed) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:58:29 +1100 Subject: iPod running sluggishly with I was five. Message-ID: Chris, I have already tried the above steps. I think I might take this one to Apple store. Thanks for the suggestions though, kind regards, Sadam. Sent from my iPhone From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Jan 9 00:55:52 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 00:55:52 +0000 Subject: mackeeper. Message-ID: Hi all a friend of mine was asking me about mac keeper. Can i ask exactly what it is and how good it is? thanks very much. Ian McNamara From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 02:06:06 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:06:06 -0800 Subject: mackeeper. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why not look at http://www.downloads.com and see if it si there. It sounds like a tool like onyc which cleans your mac of junk lol! On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi all a friend of mine was asking me about mac keeper. Can i ask exactly what it is and how good it is? > > thanks very much. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 03:19:43 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:19:43 -0800 Subject: How to find Mail messages in Lion | Macworld Message-ID: <3952B4B0-F6ED-407B-88F1-CB94E1104547@gmail.com> I don't know how to change the search tokens using voice over like the way he shows it but here ya go. http://www.macworld.com/article/163147/2011/10/how_to_find_mail_messages_in_lion.html From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Mon Jan 9 10:12:01 2012 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:12:01 +0000 Subject: Mail in Lion navigation Message-ID: Happy new year to all. I have just installed Lion and am having some frustration navigating the new Mail view. Whenever I delete a message from the message table I am not focused on the next email like I used to be. It seems any key I press throws me to the bottom of my table and I have to scroll all the way to the top again. In snow leopard I could also do this quickly by holding down option and up arrow, but this does not seem to work in Lion either. I am using the wireless keyboard, so do not have home and end functions. I would like to stick with the new view , but may have to go back if I can't sort this out. Kind regards Ian From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Mon Jan 9 10:37:38 2012 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:37:38 +0000 Subject: Mail in Lion navigation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01F5AD3F-4D14-44A9-B590-DD0885E1FE06@virginmedia.com> Hi Ian! You will find fn+vo+shift+either right or left arrows will take the vo cursor to top and bottom! hth Colin On 9 Jan 2012, at 10:12, Ian Harrison wrote: > Happy new year to all. > > I have just installed Lion and am having some frustration navigating the new Mail view. > Whenever I delete a message from the message table I am not focused on the next email like I used to be. It seems any key I press throws me to the bottom of my table and I have to scroll all the way to the top again. In snow leopard I could also do this quickly by holding down option and up arrow, but this does not seem to work in Lion either. > I am using the wireless keyboard, so do not have home and end functions. > I would like to stick with the new view , but may have to go back if I can't sort this out. > > Kind regards > Ian > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From trevor.scott4 at btopenworld.com Mon Jan 9 12:54:35 2012 From: trevor.scott4 at btopenworld.com (trevor) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:54:35 -0000 Subject: Setting up the Mac mini Message-ID: Hello, I am thinking of getting a Mac mini in a couple of weeks and I read an article this morning about having to fool the Mac mini in to thinking it is connected to a monitor for the voice over to come on automatically. One of the things was called a Sewells TVdeck pc to TV adapter which I believe are from america. My question is; Is it still necessary to use one and if so, is there a british equivvilent please. Thanks, Trevor From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 13:10:34 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 08:10:34 -0500 Subject: Setting up the Mac mini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Or just hook it to a display! Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of trevor Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:55 AM To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Setting up the Mac mini Hello, I am thinking of getting a Mac mini in a couple of weeks and I read an article this morning about having to fool the Mac mini in to thinking it is connected to a monitor for the voice over to come on automatically. One of the things was called a Sewells TVdeck pc to TV adapter which I believe are from america. My question is; Is it still necessary to use one and if so, is there a british equivvilent please. Thanks, Trevor <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From trevor.scott4 at btopenworld.com Mon Jan 9 13:16:04 2012 From: trevor.scott4 at btopenworld.com (trevor) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:16:04 -0000 Subject: Setting up the Mac mini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <018B6756F5A14F24B38E1785FCEADF59@trevorPC> Thank you, I'm about to show my ignorance. What sort of display and What cables would I need? I heard you can plug them in to a TV but what cable would i have to get please? Thanks, Trevor -----Original Message----- From: Bubba Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:10 PM To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: Setting up the Mac mini Or just hook it to a display! Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of trevor Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:55 AM To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Setting up the Mac mini Hello, I am thinking of getting a Mac mini in a couple of weeks and I read an article this morning about having to fool the Mac mini in to thinking it is connected to a monitor for the voice over to come on automatically. One of the things was called a Sewells TVdeck pc to TV adapter which I believe are from america. My question is; Is it still necessary to use one and if so, is there a british equivvilent please. Thanks, Trevor <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 15:58:56 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:58:56 -0500 Subject: Setting up the Mac mini In-Reply-To: <018B6756F5A14F24B38E1785FCEADF59@trevorPC> References: <018B6756F5A14F24B38E1785FCEADF59@trevorPC> Message-ID: Well, a display or PC momonitor . if using a TV display I would say a LCD or plasma and it depends on the hook up on it. you might need a gva cable hook up or you might need a DEVI hookup it depends on what hook up you have on the display and the same on the monitor. But any Best buy or electronic or computer store can help you out or the manufacture of the TV or monitor. Do you have a old monitor around? It don't even have to be a real good one just so long as you hook to it. HTH Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of trevor Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:16 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Setting up the Mac mini Thank you, I'm about to show my ignorance. What sort of display and What cables would I need? I heard you can plug them in to a TV but what cable would i have to get please? Thanks, Trevor -----Original Message----- From: Bubba Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:10 PM To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: Setting up the Mac mini Or just hook it to a display! Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of trevor Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:55 AM To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Setting up the Mac mini Hello, I am thinking of getting a Mac mini in a couple of weeks and I read an article this morning about having to fool the Mac mini in to thinking it is connected to a monitor for the voice over to come on automatically. One of the things was called a Sewells TVdeck pc to TV adapter which I believe are from america. My question is; Is it still necessary to use one and if so, is there a british equivvilent please. Thanks, Trevor <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From diane.aleman at att.net Mon Jan 9 16:51:04 2012 From: diane.aleman at att.net (Diane Bomar) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:51:04 -0700 Subject: Setting up the Mac mini References: <018B6756F5A14F24B38E1785FCEADF59@trevorPC> Message-ID: You do not have to have a monitor connected. Mine works fine without a monitor. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:58 AM Subject: RE: Setting up the Mac mini > Well, a display or PC momonitor . if using a TV display I would say a LCD > or > plasma and it depends on the hook up on it. you might need a gva cable > hook > up or you might need a DEVI hookup it depends on what hook up you have on > the display and the same on the monitor. But any Best buy or electronic or > computer store can help you out or the manufacture of the TV or monitor. > Do > you have a old monitor around? It don't even have to be a real good one > just so long as you hook to it. HTH > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of trevor > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:16 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Setting up the Mac mini > > Thank you, > I'm about to show my ignorance. > What sort of display and What cables would I need? > I heard you can plug them in to a TV but what cable would i have to get > please? > > Thanks, > Trevor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bubba > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:10 PM > To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' > Subject: RE: Setting up the Mac mini > > Or just hook it to a display! > > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of trevor > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:55 AM > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Subject: Setting up the Mac mini > > Hello, > I am thinking of getting a Mac mini in a couple of weeks and I read an > article this morning about having to fool the Mac mini in to thinking it > is > connected to a monitor for the voice over to come on automatically. One of > the things was called a Sewells TVdeck pc to TV adapter which I believe > are > from america. > > My question is; > > Is it still necessary to use one and if so, is there a british equivvilent > please. > > Thanks, > Trevor > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From khwicca at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 17:17:33 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:17:33 -0500 Subject: Twitter App Message-ID: What are people using for Twitter? Kristeen Kristeen Hughes khwicca at gmail.com From blindworrell at yahoo.com Mon Jan 9 17:25:46 2012 From: blindworrell at yahoo.com (Ed Worrell) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:25:46 -0700 Subject: Twitter App In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E999204-1148-4A99-9C70-C25BB7A577F4@yahoo.com> Hello, I am using Tweetlist, it is one the best apps for Voiceover users. hth Ed From 1smartdog at cox.net Mon Jan 9 17:35:06 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:35:06 -0600 Subject: Printers Message-ID: <64D3AC1615E846FBBA4FB50C55597824@karen796b6a58c> For those of you who have an opinion, I would like to hear what printers are being used successfully and smoothly with your Macbook Pro. I would be interested in a combination scanner/printer that is as powerful yet as compact as possible. I'm looking into both monochrome and color. Thanks in advance for your input. Karen From trevor.scott4 at btopenworld.com Mon Jan 9 17:47:00 2012 From: trevor.scott4 at btopenworld.com (trevor) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:47:00 -0000 Subject: Setting up the Mac mini In-Reply-To: References: <018B6756F5A14F24B38E1785FCEADF59@trevorPC> Message-ID: <69DE87B105F547649AD84343EB905FCB@trevorPC> That's good to hear, sometimes you look things up on google and you find old information. -----Original Message----- From: Diane Bomar Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:51 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Setting up the Mac mini You do not have to have a monitor connected. Mine works fine without a monitor. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:58 AM Subject: RE: Setting up the Mac mini > Well, a display or PC momonitor . if using a TV display I would say a LCD > or > plasma and it depends on the hook up on it. you might need a gva cable > hook > up or you might need a DEVI hookup it depends on what hook up you have on > the display and the same on the monitor. But any Best buy or electronic or > computer store can help you out or the manufacture of the TV or monitor. > Do > you have a old monitor around? It don't even have to be a real good one > just so long as you hook to it. HTH > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of trevor > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:16 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Setting up the Mac mini > > Thank you, > I'm about to show my ignorance. > What sort of display and What cables would I need? > I heard you can plug them in to a TV but what cable would i have to get > please? > > Thanks, > Trevor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bubba > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:10 PM > To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' > Subject: RE: Setting up the Mac mini > > Or just hook it to a display! > > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of trevor > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:55 AM > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Subject: Setting up the Mac mini > > Hello, > I am thinking of getting a Mac mini in a couple of weeks and I read an > article this morning about having to fool the Mac mini in to thinking it > is > connected to a monitor for the voice over to come on automatically. One of > the things was called a Sewells TVdeck pc to TV adapter which I believe > are > from america. > > My question is; > > Is it still necessary to use one and if so, is there a british equivvilent > please. > > Thanks, > Trevor > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 18:17:09 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:17:09 -0800 Subject: How do I broadcast with LadioCast Message-ID: <19B729C7-7863-485A-9CB3-0F05E39A4E8B@gmail.com> Hello to all. I'm trying to broadcast with iTunes and nicecast but I cannot get my voice to come over live even when I rout to sound flower. and the effects panel is not accessible. I have contacted them about this and they have no plans to make any changes at this time. that was both 2 years ago and last year. So I found this app on the mac app store but there seems to be no way to broadcast with it. and the manual does not even remotely go over the broadcasting aspect of this app at all. Here is the link. If anyone can help I'd appreciate it. I'm on at 9 pm eastern and need to do something. I want to use iTunes as my main source for meta data purposes and sound flower for my mic and I want both of corse to be broadcasted to the stream. link to app: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ladiocast/id411213048?mt=12 From lewiscrack at googlemail.com Mon Jan 9 18:22:01 2012 From: lewiscrack at googlemail.com (Lewis Crack) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:22:01 +0000 Subject: Setting up the Mac mini In-Reply-To: <69DE87B105F547649AD84343EB905FCB@trevorPC> References: <018B6756F5A14F24B38E1785FCEADF59@trevorPC> <69DE87B105F547649AD84343EB905FCB@trevorPC> Message-ID: Hi Trevor. It's Lewis here - I have a MacBook, and I can help you with VoiceOver or anything else you want to know. Of course, you can still send suggestions and queries to the list, but i you need outside help, feel free to email me on: Lewiscrack at googlemail.com Or you can Skype me: lewiscrack Regards. Lewis. On 9 Jan 2012, at 17:47, trevor wrote: > > That's good to hear, sometimes you look things up on google and you find old information. > > -----Original Message----- From: Diane Bomar > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:51 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Setting up the Mac mini > > You do not have to have a monitor connected. Mine works fine without a > monitor. > Diane > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" > To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:58 AM > Subject: RE: Setting up the Mac mini > > >> Well, a display or PC momonitor . if using a TV display I would say a LCD or >> plasma and it depends on the hook up on it. you might need a gva cable hook >> up or you might need a DEVI hookup it depends on what hook up you have on >> the display and the same on the monitor. But any Best buy or electronic or >> computer store can help you out or the manufacture of the TV or monitor. Do >> you have a old monitor around? It don't even have to be a real good one >> just so long as you hook to it. HTH >> >> >> Sign, >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of trevor >> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:16 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Setting up the Mac mini >> >> Thank you, >> I'm about to show my ignorance. >> What sort of display and What cables would I need? >> I heard you can plug them in to a TV but what cable would i have to get >> please? >> >> Thanks, >> Trevor >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Bubba >> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:10 PM >> To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' >> Subject: RE: Setting up the Mac mini >> >> Or just hook it to a display! >> >> >> >> Sign, >> Bubba >> bubbathegeek at gmail.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of trevor >> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:55 AM >> To: mac-access at mac-access.net >> Subject: Setting up the Mac mini >> >> Hello, >> I am thinking of getting a Mac mini in a couple of weeks and I read an >> article this morning about having to fool the Mac mini in to thinking it is >> connected to a monitor for the voice over to come on automatically. One of >> the things was called a Sewells TVdeck pc to TV adapter which I believe are >> from america. >> >> My question is; >> >> Is it still necessary to use one and if so, is there a british equivvilent >> please. >> >> Thanks, >> Trevor >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 19:32:44 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:32:44 -0600 Subject: Printers In-Reply-To: <64D3AC1615E846FBBA4FB50C55597824@karen796b6a58c> References: <64D3AC1615E846FBBA4FB50C55597824@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: <0F878A2A-B01E-4A6B-99B3-03897F62846B@gmail.com> Don't have same type of computer, but use Kodack all in 1. Cartridges are cheaper, but this is all on my desk am not mobile with computer. Can just scan then open image with abby fine reader then convert, don't need to use Voo Scan or anything like that, just push scan and it comes up on the computer. On Jan 9, 2012, at 11:35 AM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > For those of you who have an opinion, I would like to hear what printers are being used successfully and smoothly with your Macbook Pro. I would be interested in a combination scanner/printer that is as powerful yet as compact as possible. I'm looking into both monochrome and color. > > Thanks in advance for your input. > > Karen > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Jan 9 20:32:33 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:32:33 +0000 Subject: Twitter App In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F0B4EE1.4090600@techno-chat.net> I use the official app. On 09/01/2012 17:17, Kristeen Hughes wrote: > What are people using for Twitter? > > Kristeen > > Kristeen Hughes > khwicca at gmail.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Jan 9 20:36:54 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:36:54 +0000 Subject: Dragon dictate on the iPhone Message-ID: <8B61822F-E3F0-4A91-8C69-7C44CA14740E@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I have just tried the free dragon dictation app from the iTunes app store on my iPhone 3GS. It has done a very good job of speech recognition. Is there any way to get it to include punctuation like commas, full stops, and new lines? I tried speaking the word comma and stop and also leaving long pauses in my dictation in the hope that it would include the appropriate punctuation but alas no. So what is the easiest way for a VoiceOver user to add punctuation? I have not used the virtual keyboard much but when I did try it I found it quite tricky to edit already entered text. Many thanks for any tips. Best wishes.... Paul Hopewell From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Mon Jan 9 20:44:35 2012 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:44:35 +1100 Subject: Dragon dictate on the iPhone In-Reply-To: <8B61822F-E3F0-4A91-8C69-7C44CA14740E@hopewell.org.uk> References: <8B61822F-E3F0-4A91-8C69-7C44CA14740E@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hey Paul How are you? I also use the drag and dictate app. I find that if I say comma, full stop, question mark, etc. It will put in the appropriate punctuation. I've not used the virtual keyboard but export the stuff I have dictated to the text message I'm going to send and then edit it in there. My only complaint with Drag and Dictate is that it can't swear :) lol I hope this helps. Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell Sent: Tuesday, 10 January 2012 7:37 AM To: mac-access Subject: Dragon dictate on the iPhone Hello, I have just tried the free dragon dictation app from the iTunes app store on my iPhone 3GS. It has done a very good job of speech recognition. Is there any way to get it to include punctuation like commas, full stops, and new lines? I tried speaking the word comma and stop and also leaving long pauses in my dictation in the hope that it would include the appropriate punctuation but alas no. So what is the easiest way for a VoiceOver user to add punctuation? I have not used the virtual keyboard much but when I did try it I found it quite tricky to edit already entered text. Many thanks for any tips. Best wishes.... Paul Hopewell <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 21:14:04 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:14:04 -0600 Subject: Building C++. Message-ID: <4A3B18D46D584378AC7DABBAD258733A@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Greetings, I'm teaching myself c++ so as to unrust my programming skills, and attempting to come up with the most painless way to test the sample programs and practice exercises in the text. I know a little about building via the command line using G++, but it seems that taking the long term view, it would be more marketable and productive to use xCode. It seems ironic though that a tool purporting to simplify development seems to add several steps. I must be missing something, but there is so much documentation I can't ascertain where to begin. Can anyone suggest a good source for learning the basics of how to make/compile/build using xCode? The chapter I'm working on now has 35 exercises -- will I really need to create separate projects for all 35 .cpp files if I want to save them for later, or is there a way to simplify the process? I know how to do a basic compile/run in xCode, but not how to simulate passing command line arguments -- is this a good reason for continuing to use terminal? Perhaps someone with a little time and patients can get with me off list and I'll try to do my own research and ask as few questions as possible. Best regards. Geoff From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 21:25:56 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:25:56 -0600 Subject: Dragon dictate on the iPhone References: <8B61822F-E3F0-4A91-8C69-7C44CA14740E@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <202AE07000CE4ADDBF9984CC3E4A2757@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Paul and Paula, To expand on Paula's advice, this article describes how to dictate punctuation including line breaks, caps, etc. It is applicable for both Siri and the Dragon app (which I long ago deleted). BTW, Siri does appear to know all the cuss words (not that I ever utter them :) ). Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula Hobley To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:44 PM Subject: RE: Dragon dictate on the iPhone Hey Paul How are you? I also use the drag and dictate app. I find that if I say comma, full stop, question mark, etc. It will put in the appropriate punctuation. I've not used the virtual keyboard but export the stuff I have dictated to the text message I'm going to send and then edit it in there. My only complaint with Drag and Dictate is that it can't swear :) lol I hope this helps. Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell Sent: Tuesday, 10 January 2012 7:37 AM To: mac-access Subject: Dragon dictate on the iPhone Hello, I have just tried the free dragon dictation app from the iTunes app store on my iPhone 3GS. It has done a very good job of speech recognition. Is there any way to get it to include punctuation like commas, full stops, and new lines? I tried speaking the word comma and stop and also leaving long pauses in my dictation in the hope that it would include the appropriate punctuation but alas no. So what is the easiest way for a VoiceOver user to add punctuation? I have not used the virtual keyboard much but when I did try it I found it quite tricky to edit already entered text. Many thanks for any tips. Best wishes.... Paul Hopewell <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From n0oxy at charter.net Tue Jan 10 00:42:04 2012 From: n0oxy at charter.net (Mike Arrigo) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:42:04 -0600 Subject: Setting up the Mac mini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There was an adapter for the 2008 minis that would allow you to connect a mini to a television, it does not work with new mac minis though, as far as I know, the only way to get the new minis to work properly is to connect a monitor, it doesn't need to be turned on, just connected. On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:54 AM, trevor wrote: > Hello, > I am thinking of getting a Mac mini in a couple of weeks and I read an article this morning about having to fool the Mac mini in to thinking it is connected to a monitor for the voice over to come on automatically. One of the things was called a Sewells TVdeck pc to TV adapter which I believe are from america. > > My question is; > > Is it still necessary to use one and if so, is there a british equivvilent please. > > Thanks, > Trevor > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 01:16:32 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:16:32 -0500 Subject: Setting up the Mac mini In-Reply-To: References: <018B6756F5A14F24B38E1785FCEADF59@trevorPC> Message-ID: <000301cccf35$7dac9360$7905ba20$@gmail.com> That is true they say! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:51 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Setting up the Mac mini You do not have to have a monitor connected. Mine works fine without a monitor. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:58 AM Subject: RE: Setting up the Mac mini > Well, a display or PC momonitor . if using a TV display I would say a LCD > or > plasma and it depends on the hook up on it. you might need a gva cable > hook > up or you might need a DEVI hookup it depends on what hook up you have on > the display and the same on the monitor. But any Best buy or electronic or > computer store can help you out or the manufacture of the TV or monitor. > Do > you have a old monitor around? It don't even have to be a real good one > just so long as you hook to it. HTH > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of trevor > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:16 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Setting up the Mac mini > > Thank you, > I'm about to show my ignorance. > What sort of display and What cables would I need? > I heard you can plug them in to a TV but what cable would i have to get > please? > > Thanks, > Trevor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bubba > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:10 PM > To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' > Subject: RE: Setting up the Mac mini > > Or just hook it to a display! > > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of trevor > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:55 AM > To: mac-access at mac-access.net > Subject: Setting up the Mac mini > > Hello, > I am thinking of getting a Mac mini in a couple of weeks and I read an > article this morning about having to fool the Mac mini in to thinking it > is > connected to a monitor for the voice over to come on automatically. One of > the things was called a Sewells TVdeck pc to TV adapter which I believe > are > from america. > > My question is; > > Is it still necessary to use one and if so, is there a british equivvilent > please. > > Thanks, > Trevor > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From GlennErvin at cableone.net Tue Jan 10 04:28:14 2012 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 22:28:14 -0600 Subject: Skype 3.6.1 for iPhone Message-ID: Hi All, Skype 3.6.1 came out, about a week ago, and I want to know if anyone knows if the most recent version has addressed the accessibility problems that were in version 3.6.. Thanks. Glenn From diane.aleman at att.net Tue Jan 10 05:38:39 2012 From: diane.aleman at att.net (Diane Bomar) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 22:38:39 -0700 Subject: Setting up the Mac mini References: Message-ID: <44E078B035534BCDB3A271E673636F7C@DianeLaptop> Not true. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Arrigo" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 5:42 PM Subject: Re: Setting up the Mac mini > There was an adapter for the 2008 minis that would allow you to connect a > mini to a television, it does not work with new mac minis though, as far > as I know, the only way to get the new minis to work properly is to > connect a monitor, it doesn't need to be turned on, just connected. > On Jan 9, 2012, at 6:54 AM, trevor wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am thinking of getting a Mac mini in a couple of weeks and I read an >> article this morning about having to fool the Mac mini in to thinking it >> is connected to a monitor for the voice over to come on automatically. >> One of the things was called a Sewells TVdeck pc to TV adapter which I >> believe are from america. >> >> My question is; >> >> Is it still necessary to use one and if so, is there a british >> equivvilent please. >> >> Thanks, >> Trevor >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Tue Jan 10 12:16:43 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:16:43 +0000 Subject: Deleting multiple photos Message-ID: <4F0C2C2B.90206@techno-chat.net> Here is how you delete multiple photos on the iPhone. 1. Open the photos app. 2. Double tap the camera role button. 3. Double tap the actions button. 4. Select one or more photos by double tapping on them. 5. Double tap delete. 6. Double tap delete photo. From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 10 14:29:17 2012 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:29:17 +0000 Subject: Drag and Drop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello John Sorry this is a little dated; but yes, we have successfully managed to drag and drop using the VO technique under Lion. You need to make sure that both winnows are visible; i.e., have 2 finder windows open before it will work. Lynne On 6 Jan 2012, at 04:01, John Gunn wrote: You can disregard the below messHello All: I forgot about command-option-v for moving a file although I'd be interested if anyone can drag and drop a file by using VO comma and VO period. From gunn at tznet.com Tue Jan 10 15:19:20 2012 From: gunn at tznet.com (gunn at tznet.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:19:20 -0500 Subject: Drag and Drop Message-ID: <380-220121210151920768@M2W117.mail2web.com> Lynne: Thanks for the reply and I am able to drag and drop as well using the iMac early 2008 however a friend of mine has an early MacBook Pro 13inch and she gets the message failed to drop and mentions the destination. Both Windows are visible so the only thing I can think of it could be hardware related because my work computer which is a MacBook 2007 I get the same thing. Take care, John Original Message: ----------------- From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith lynne at mac-access.net Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:29:17 +0000 To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Re: Drag and Drop Hello John Sorry this is a little dated; but yes, we have successfully managed to drag and drop using the VO technique under Lion. You need to make sure that both winnows are visible; i.e., have 2 finder windows open before it will work. Lynne On 6 Jan 2012, at 04:01, John Gunn wrote: You can disregard the below messHello All: I forgot about command-option-v for moving a file although I'd be interested if anyone can drag and drop a file by using VO comma and VO period. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From d.griffith at btinternet.com Tue Jan 10 15:59:31 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:59:31 -0000 Subject: Drag and Drop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <346046CA2673447A9E328DD43EE5FE67@acer4d025c48b8> I just wonder if somebody sighted could test if using the expose feature would consolidate the use of drag and drop with voiceover. I often get the message that drag and drop will not work because the window is not visible. As I understand it the point of expose is to arrange all windows so that they are visible. Is that is the case, would that help users of voiceover with drag and drop who cannot arrange windows themselves? Or would using command accent or windows chooser stop expose working? Regards David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: 10 January 2012 14:29 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Drag and Drop Hello John Sorry this is a little dated; but yes, we have successfully managed to drag and drop using the VO technique under Lion. You need to make sure that both winnows are visible; i.e., have 2 finder windows open before it will work. Lynne On 6 Jan 2012, at 04:01, John Gunn wrote: You can disregard the below messHello All: I forgot about command-option-v for moving a file although I'd be interested if anyone can drag and drop a file by using VO comma and VO period. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 10 16:07:32 2012 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:07:32 +0000 Subject: Drag and Drop In-Reply-To: <380-220121210151920768@M2W117.mail2web.com> References: <380-220121210151920768@M2W117.mail2web.com> Message-ID: Hello John OK, well at least as you say she should have the Command+Option+V alternative, that never fails here. Using the mouse, of course, this kind of function works seamlessly everywhere. But it's very odd that your friend should be seeing this issue. Best Lynne On 10 Jan 2012, at 15:19, gunn at tznet.com wrote: Lynne: Thanks for the reply and I am able to drag and drop as well using the iMac early 2008 however a friend of mine has an early MacBook Pro 13inch and she gets the message failed to drop and mentions the destination. Both Windows are visible so the only thing I can think of it could be hardware related because my work computer which is a MacBook 2007 I get the same thing. From gordon at mac-access.net Tue Jan 10 16:11:39 2012 From: gordon at mac-access.net (Gordon Smith) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:11:39 +0000 Subject: Drag and Drop In-Reply-To: <346046CA2673447A9E328DD43EE5FE67@acer4d025c48b8> References: <346046CA2673447A9E328DD43EE5FE67@acer4d025c48b8> Message-ID: <01F56FE0-FD50-40FD-83E9-06753FBA8FDD@mac-access.net> Hello David Actually you don't need to arrange any windows at all. Just use the Finder command (Command+N) to open a new window and cycle through the open windows using Voice+single quote, (next to the Z on your keyboard). So it really shouldn't be too difficult if you do it that way. Of course, it may be that there are other factors at work here as well. Lynne On 10 Jan 2012, at 15:59, David Griffith wrote: I just wonder if somebody sighted could test if using the expose feature would consolidate the use of drag and drop with voiceover. I often get the message that drag and drop will not work because the window is not visible. As I understand it the point of expose is to arrange all windows so that they are visible. Is that is the case, would that help users of voiceover with drag and drop who cannot arrange windows themselves? Or would using command accent or windows chooser stop expose working? From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 10 16:12:18 2012 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:12:18 +0000 Subject: Drag and Drop In-Reply-To: <01F56FE0-FD50-40FD-83E9-06753FBA8FDD@mac-access.net> References: <346046CA2673447A9E328DD43EE5FE67@acer4d025c48b8> <01F56FE0-FD50-40FD-83E9-06753FBA8FDD@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <709E3DF1-9606-45F8-BEC3-8D5944697924@mac-access.net> Oopse! Forgot to change to my own account; sorry! Lynne On 10 Jan 2012, at 16:11, Gordon Smith wrote: Hello David Actually you don't need to arrange any windows at all. Just use the Finder command (Command+N) to open a new window and cycle through the open windows using Voice+single quote, (next to the Z on your keyboard). So it really shouldn't be too difficult if you do it that way. Of course, it may be that there are other factors at work here as well. Lynne On 10 Jan 2012, at 15:59, David Griffith wrote: I just wonder if somebody sighted could test if using the expose feature would consolidate the use of drag and drop with voiceover. I often get the message that drag and drop will not work because the window is not visible. As I understand it the point of expose is to arrange all windows so that they are visible. Is that is the case, would that help users of voiceover with drag and drop who cannot arrange windows themselves? Or would using command accent or windows chooser stop expose working? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From d.griffith at btinternet.com Tue Jan 10 16:26:38 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:26:38 -0000 Subject: Drag and Drop In-Reply-To: <709E3DF1-9606-45F8-BEC3-8D5944697924@mac-access.net> References: <346046CA2673447A9E328DD43EE5FE67@acer4d025c48b8><01F56FE0-FD50-40FD-83E9-06753FBA8FDD@mac-access.net> <709E3DF1-9606-45F8-BEC3-8D5944697924@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3E101CE2664B40289AE713D7709538EB@acer4d025c48b8> Thanks This is pretty much what I do, voiceover calls the ' key accent but we are using the same keys. I think the problem occurs when a window you cycle to using this command, is then hiding the window you are trying to drag from. Often the issue is when you are trying to drag out of one application into another. I know for definite that this has variable outcomes. For example I have successfully dragged and dropped a bookmark from Safari onto the desktop which is quite a useful feature. On other occasions I try this and other operations and get the message no visible window to perform action etc. The problem is somehow ensuring both the window you are dragging from and the window you are dragging to is visible. Obviously for many of us this is difficult to check so I thought expose may be a way of forcing windows to be visible. I will check this out myself when I get the time. David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith Sent: 10 January 2012 16:12 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Drag and Drop Oopse! Forgot to change to my own account; sorry! Lynne On 10 Jan 2012, at 16:11, Gordon Smith wrote: Hello David Actually you don't need to arrange any windows at all. Just use the Finder command (Command+N) to open a new window and cycle through the open windows using Voice+single quote, (next to the Z on your keyboard). So it really shouldn't be too difficult if you do it that way. Of course, it may be that there are other factors at work here as well. Lynne On 10 Jan 2012, at 15:59, David Griffith wrote: I just wonder if somebody sighted could test if using the expose feature would consolidate the use of drag and drop with voiceover. I often get the message that drag and drop will not work because the window is not visible. As I understand it the point of expose is to arrange all windows so that they are visible. Is that is the case, would that help users of voiceover with drag and drop who cannot arrange windows themselves? Or would using command accent or windows chooser stop expose working? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Tue Jan 10 16:45:54 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:45:54 +0000 Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone Message-ID: Hello, Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 10 16:48:51 2012 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:48:51 +0000 Subject: Drag and Drop In-Reply-To: <3E101CE2664B40289AE713D7709538EB@acer4d025c48b8> References: <346046CA2673447A9E328DD43EE5FE67@acer4d025c48b8><01F56FE0-FD50-40FD-83E9-06753FBA8FDD@mac-access.net> <709E3DF1-9606-45F8-BEC3-8D5944697924@mac-access.net> <3E101CE2664B40289AE713D7709538EB@acer4d025c48b8> Message-ID: Hello David Yes, I think you're right that VoiceOver calls it the "Accent" key. I've just tried this a couple of times and I cannot replicate the problem. Each time I did it it worked perfectly well. So who knows; maybe it's something local in the configuration of the specific system; but I've just tried it on our 2009 MacBook Pro and on a mid 2007 MacBook. I had no problems in either case. Lynne On 10 Jan 2012, at 16:26, David Griffith wrote: Thanks This is pretty much what I do, voiceover calls the ' key accent but we are using the same keys. I think the problem occurs when a window you cycle to using this command, is then hiding the window you are trying to drag from. Often the issue is when you are trying to drag out of one application into another. I know for definite that this has variable outcomes. For example I have successfully dragged and dropped a bookmark from Safari onto the desktop which is quite a useful feature. On other occasions I try this and other operations and get the message no visible window to perform action etc. The problem is somehow ensuring both the window you are dragging from and the window you are dragging to is visible. Obviously for many of us this is difficult to check so I thought expose may be a way of forcing windows to be visible. I will check this out myself when I get the time. From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Tue Jan 10 17:34:49 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:34:49 +0000 Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F0C76B9.4010609@techno-chat.net> Yes. In a text field rotor to edit, flick down to select or select all, double tap. A menu should appear with options like cut copy or paste if there is text on the clipboard already. If not just cut and copy. Alternatively you can flick down until you hear cut or copy then double tap to perform this action. Paste is also in the edit rotor providing there is text on the clipboard. On 10/01/2012 16:45, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Tue Jan 10 17:49:18 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:49:18 +0000 Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone In-Reply-To: <4F0C76B9.4010609@techno-chat.net> References: <4F0C76B9.4010609@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Hi Chris, I forgot about the rota and edit. This now works fine. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell On 10 Jan 2012, at 17:34, chris hallsworth wrote: > Yes. In a text field rotor to edit, flick down to select or select all, double tap. A menu should appear with options like cut copy or paste if there is text on the clipboard already. If not just cut and copy. Alternatively you can flick down until you hear cut or copy then double tap to perform this action. Paste is also in the edit rotor providing there is text on the clipboard. > > On 10/01/2012 16:45, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> Hello, >> Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 18:08:54 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:08:54 -0600 Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone References: Message-ID: <321F2ADDE79F45A9AB1D62BADA8B56B2@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Paul, To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste and double click. I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely cause the words "for a good" to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: "good selected". So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call". If I accidentally over do it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping. Either via "cut" or pressing "del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: "Jenny selected", press del and only the phone number remains. HTH. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Hopewell To: mac-access Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone Hello, Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From 1smartdog at cox.net Tue Jan 10 18:31:39 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:31:39 -0600 Subject: Printers Message-ID: <7DF8AAC99F0B44009505B12BEDC76A4C@karen796b6a58c> A few days ago I asked about printers for a Macbook Pro. Do none of you use printers or scanners with your Apple computers? Karen From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jan 10 18:32:29 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:32:29 +0000 Subject: Printers In-Reply-To: <7DF8AAC99F0B44009505B12BEDC76A4C@karen796b6a58c> References: <7DF8AAC99F0B44009505B12BEDC76A4C@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: <5EE1797B-DB45-43A0-9EAB-33D932E8A0BA@googlemail.com> Hi, i don't use a printer but from what i can gather as soon as you connect your printer up it should find it streight away. Ian McNamara From jpanarese at mac-access.net Tue Jan 10 18:38:37 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:38:37 -0500 Subject: Printers In-Reply-To: <7DF8AAC99F0B44009505B12BEDC76A4C@karen796b6a58c> References: <7DF8AAC99F0B44009505B12BEDC76A4C@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: <4AAD4453-0E68-4BA9-9081-574CAE3CA2FF@mac-access.net> You should have no problem connecting a printer to your Mac. Once you do, it should be found and identified by Mac OS X. It might tell you that it is downloading the appropriate drivers, but you should have no issues. If it includes a scanner, the only potential "issues" I am aware of is that the printer has to have TWAIN drivers for the Mac in order for it to be used. However, I am not recalling the details, but I can tell you that the last few HP All in Ones I have used have been compatible with the Mac in all features. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Jan 10, 2012, at 1:31 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > A few days ago I asked about printers for a Macbook Pro. Do none of you use printers or scanners with your Apple computers? > > Karen > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 18:52:58 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:52:58 -0800 Subject: Printers In-Reply-To: <4AAD4453-0E68-4BA9-9081-574CAE3CA2FF@mac-access.net> References: <7DF8AAC99F0B44009505B12BEDC76A4C@karen796b6a58c> <4AAD4453-0E68-4BA9-9081-574CAE3CA2FF@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <24F83EE1-0B79-4DB8-BF05-8B9DDE59818B@gmail.com> I used a cannon until it ran out of ink. I don't even use a printer anymore since I can just email stuff in pdf to instructors. the scanner does not work with the mac but my printer was found right away. On Jan 10, 2012, at 10:38 AM, John Panarese wrote: > You should have no problem connecting a printer to your Mac. Once you do, it should be found and identified by Mac OS X. It might tell you that it is downloading the appropriate drivers, but you should have no issues. > > If it includes a scanner, the only potential "issues" I am aware of is that the printer has to have TWAIN drivers for the Mac in order for it to be used. However, I am not recalling the details, but I can tell you that the last few HP All in Ones I have used have been compatible with the Mac in all features. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Jan 10, 2012, at 1:31 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > >> A few days ago I asked about printers for a Macbook Pro. Do none of you use printers or scanners with your Apple computers? >> >> Karen >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Tue Jan 10 19:30:51 2012 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:30:51 +0000 Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone In-Reply-To: <321F2ADDE79F45A9AB1D62BADA8B56B2@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <321F2ADDE79F45A9AB1D62BADA8B56B2@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: Hi there! Ok when sitting on the phone number! And if the rota is set to words! place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out stroke and that will select the phone number! If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block of numbers! If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number! This will also work for words! It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! But not sure! Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do with it as you will! This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them! But keeping them straight will select the items in question! hth Colin On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Paul, > > To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: > > > "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." > > > Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to > select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I > used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. > > > Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste and double click. > > > I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot > easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of > the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The > same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely cause the > words "for a good" to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: "good selected". So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call". If I accidentally over do > it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the > word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping. Either via "cut" or pressing "del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: > > > " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." > > > Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: "Jenny selected", press del and only the phone number remains. > > > HTH. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Hopewell > To: mac-access > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM > Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone > > > Hello, > Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 20:00:12 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:00:12 -0800 Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <321F2ADDE79F45A9AB1D62BADA8B56B2@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple would have made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once you double tap that you can turn the rotor and flick up and down to select the line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them. On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi there! > Ok when sitting on the phone number! > And if the rota is set to words! > place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out stroke and that will select the phone number! > If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block of numbers! > If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number! > This will also work for words! > It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! > But not sure! > Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do with it as you will! > This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them! > But keeping them straight will select the items in question! > hth Colin > > On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: >> >> >> "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." >> >> >> Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to >> select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I >> used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. >> >> >> Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste and double click. >> >> >> I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot >> easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of >> the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The >> same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely cause the >> words "for a good" to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: "good selected". So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call". If I accidentally over do >> it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the >> word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping. Either via "cut" or pressing "del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: >> >> >> " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." >> >> >> Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: "Jenny selected", press del and only the phone number remains. >> >> >> HTH. >> Geoff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Paul Hopewell >> To: mac-access >> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM >> Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone >> >> >> Hello, >> Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Tue Jan 10 20:22:35 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:22:35 +0000 Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <321F2ADDE79F45A9AB1D62BADA8B56B2@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <4F0C9E0B.3050407@techno-chat.net> Don't think I could either, it sounds too complex for my involuntary hand movements. On 10/01/2012 20:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple would have made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once you double tap that you can turn the rotor and flick up and down to select the line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them. > On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > >> Hi there! >> Ok when sitting on the phone number! >> And if the rota is set to words! >> place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out stroke and that will select the phone number! >> If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block of numbers! >> If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number! >> This will also work for words! >> It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! >> But not sure! >> Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do with it as you will! >> This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them! >> But keeping them straight will select the items in question! >> hth Colin >> >> On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: >>> >>> >>> "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." >>> >>> >>> Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to >>> select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I >>> used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. >>> >>> >>> Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste and double click. >>> >>> >>> I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot >>> easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of >>> the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The >>> same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely cause the >>> words "for a good" to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: "good selected". So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call". If I accidentally over do >>> it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the >>> word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping. Either via "cut" or pressing "del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: >>> >>> >>> " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." >>> >>> >>> Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: "Jenny selected", press del and only the phone number remains. >>> >>> >>> HTH. >>> Geoff >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Paul Hopewell >>> To: mac-access >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM >>> Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 20:54:24 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:54:24 -0800 Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone In-Reply-To: <4F0C9E0B.3050407@techno-chat.net> References: <321F2ADDE79F45A9AB1D62BADA8B56B2@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <4F0C9E0B.3050407@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: If you all have free dev accounts you can submit it as a bug report but put it as a suggestionin the dropdown box or email accesibility at apple.com and see what they say. I did both. lol! On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:22 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > Don't think I could either, it sounds too complex for my involuntary hand movements. > > On 10/01/2012 20:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple would have made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once you double tap that you can turn the rotor and flick up and down to select the line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them. >> On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: >> >>> Hi there! >>> Ok when sitting on the phone number! >>> And if the rota is set to words! >>> place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out stroke and that will select the phone number! >>> If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block of numbers! >>> If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number! >>> This will also work for words! >>> It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! >>> But not sure! >>> Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do with it as you will! >>> This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them! >>> But keeping them straight will select the items in question! >>> hth Colin >>> >>> On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Paul, >>>> >>>> To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: >>>> >>>> >>>> "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." >>>> >>>> >>>> Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to >>>> select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I >>>> used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. >>>> >>>> >>>> Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste and double click. >>>> >>>> >>>> I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot >>>> easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of >>>> the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The >>>> same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely cause the >>>> words "for a good" to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: "good selected". So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call". If I accidentally over do >>>> it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the >>>> word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping. Either via "cut" or pressing "del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: >>>> >>>> >>>> " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." >>>> >>>> >>>> Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: "Jenny selected", press del and only the phone number remains. >>>> >>>> >>>> HTH. >>>> Geoff >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Paul Hopewell >>>> To: mac-access >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM >>>> Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? >>>> Many thanks. >>>> >>>> Paul Hopewell >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 21:05:54 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:05:54 -0500 Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <321F2ADDE79F45A9AB1D62BADA8B56B2@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <4F0C9E0B.3050407@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Just use the BT keyboard! Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:54 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone If you all have free dev accounts you can submit it as a bug report but put it as a suggestionin the dropdown box or email accesibility at apple.com and see what they say. I did both. lol! On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:22 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > Don't think I could either, it sounds too complex for my involuntary hand movements. > > On 10/01/2012 20:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple would have made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once you double tap that you can turn the rotor and flick up and down to select the line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them. >> On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: >> >>> Hi there! >>> Ok when sitting on the phone number! >>> And if the rota is set to words! >>> place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out stroke and that will select the phone number! >>> If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block of numbers! >>> If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number! >>> This will also work for words! >>> It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! >>> But not sure! >>> Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do with it as you will! >>> This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them! >>> But keeping them straight will select the items in question! >>> hth Colin >>> >>> On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Paul, >>>> >>>> To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: >>>> >>>> >>>> "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." >>>> >>>> >>>> Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to >>>> select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I >>>> used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. >>>> >>>> >>>> Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste and double click. >>>> >>>> >>>> I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot >>>> easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of >>>> the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The >>>> same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely cause the >>>> words "for a good" to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: "good selected". So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call". If I accidentally over do >>>> it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the >>>> word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping. Either via "cut" or pressing "del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: >>>> >>>> >>>> " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." >>>> >>>> >>>> Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: "Jenny selected", press del and only the phone number remains. >>>> >>>> >>>> HTH. >>>> Geoff >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Paul Hopewell >>>> To: mac-access >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM >>>> Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? >>>> Many thanks. >>>> >>>> Paul Hopewell >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From terrycooper10 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 10 22:01:07 2012 From: terrycooper10 at hotmail.com (Terry Cooper) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:01:07 +0000 Subject: Connecting a pc to Iphone for the internet Message-ID: Hi all On behalf of a friend of mine. He is trying to connect to the internet on his pc by using the broadband capabilities of his iphone. He has turned on personal hotspot on the iphone, turned on wireless also on the iphone. he has gone to the wireless settings on his pc, kersered to the iphone in the list of available wireless options in range, clicked it, entered the password, clicked enter, and after a few seconds, jaws announces that it is connected. However, when launching his web browser on the pc, he just gets the message saying can't display the web page, bla bla bla. What else is needed to do on the iphone to enable his pc to use the broadband. thanks as always. Terry From lynne at mac-access.net Tue Jan 10 22:30:33 2012 From: lynne at mac-access.net (Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:30:33 +0000 Subject: Connecting a pc to Iphone for the internet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <412BF74D-16E6-40C9-961A-AE8EA8C0D4E6@mac-access.net> Hello Terry Thank you for restricting your enquiry to what may be needed on the iPhone. The Windows side of this is, of course, off topic for this group. I'm only posting so that anybody thinking of replying won't bother offering Windows suggestions. Lynne On 10 Jan 2012, at 22:01, Terry Cooper wrote: On behalf of a friend of mine. From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Tue Jan 10 22:35:31 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:35:31 +0000 Subject: Connecting a pc to Iphone for the internet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F0CBD33.5080205@techno-chat.net> That's weird, it should just work. On 10/01/2012 22:01, Terry Cooper wrote: > Hi all > > On behalf of a friend of mine. > > He is trying to connect to the internet on his pc by using the broadband > capabilities of his iphone. > > He has turned on personal hotspot on the iphone, turned on wireless also on > the iphone. > > he has gone to the wireless settings on his pc, kersered to the iphone in > the list of available wireless options in range, clicked it, entered the > password, clicked enter, and after a few seconds, jaws announces that it is > connected. > > However, when launching his web browser on the pc, he just gets the message > saying can't display the web page, bla bla bla. > > What else is needed to do on the iphone to enable his pc to use the > broadband. > > thanks as always. > Terry > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 23:12:52 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:12:52 -0800 Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <321F2ADDE79F45A9AB1D62BADA8B56B2@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> <4F0C9E0B.3050407@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: I mant for those of us wiht out bt keyboards. There's got to be a better way to do it with 1 finger like the way I suggested to apple. lol! Take care all. On Jan 10, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Bubba wrote: > Just use the BT keyboard! > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:54 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone > > If you all have free dev accounts you can submit it as a bug report but put > it as a suggestionin the dropdown box or email accesibility at apple.com and > see what they say. I did both. lol! > On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:22 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Don't think I could either, it sounds too complex for my involuntary hand > movements. >> >> On 10/01/2012 20:00, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple > would have made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once > you double tap that you can turn the rotor and flick up and down to select > the line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them. >>> On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there! >>>> Ok when sitting on the phone number! >>>> And if the rota is set to words! >>>> place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch > out stroke and that will select the phone number! >>>> If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next > block of numbers! >>>> If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by > number! >>>> This will also work for words! >>>> It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! >>>> But not sure! >>>> Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy > and do with it as you will! >>>> This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting > as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open > them! >>>> But keeping them straight will select the items in question! >>>> hth Colin >>>> >>>> On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Paul, >>>>> >>>>> To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a > text message as follows: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way > to >>>>> select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not > in edit mode. Instead I >>>>> used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only > available option) the entire message. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number > is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste > and double click. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone > number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must > pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will > become a lot >>>>> easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse > pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two > fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of >>>>> the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half > inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected > and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. > The >>>>> same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely > cause the >>>>> words "for a good" to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO > announces: "good selected". So I would first rotate to words and use a > large open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call". If I > accidentally over do >>>>> it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. > If I only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the >>>>> word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the > first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, > however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get > them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to > either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping. Either via "cut" or pressing > "del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the > phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the > unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: "Jenny > selected", press del and only the phone number remains. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> HTH. >>>>> Geoff >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Paul Hopewell >>>>> To: mac-access >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM >>>>> Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver > on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? >>>>> Many thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Paul Hopewell >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 23:57:10 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:57:10 -0600 Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone References: <321F2ADDE79F45A9AB1D62BADA8B56B2@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: Hi Colin, Before posting, I tested IOS 5.01, and can confirm that your statement is false. As stated previously, it is only possible to extract a portion of text while in edit mode. Otherwise, the only available option is the method I described -- IE Edit -> copy/paste into an edit field before extraction via pinch gesture. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Red.Falcon To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone Hi there! Ok when sitting on the phone number! And if the rota is set to words! place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out stroke and that will select the phone number! If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block of numbers! If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number! This will also work for words! It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that! But not sure! Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do with it as you will! This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them! But keeping them straight will select the items in question! hth Colin On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Paul, > > To extract a phone number, let me set up an example. Lets say I have a text message as follows: > > > "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." > > > Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to > select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit mode. Instead I > used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available option) the entire message. > > > Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted.. Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste and double click. > > > I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must pinch those five words away. As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot > easier. You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to unselect. What is selected/unselected depends on the size of > the gesture and current roter setting. If selecting characters, a half inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected. The > same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely cause the > words "for a good" to be selected. I would hear three clicks and VO announces: "good selected". So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call". If I accidentally over do > it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it. If I only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the > word call (all data to the left remains selected). Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping. Either via "cut" or pressing "del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading: > > > " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny." > > > Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as described above. When VO says something like: "Jenny selected", press del and only the phone number remains. > > > HTH. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Hopewell > To: mac-access > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM > Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone > > > Hello, > Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From raven2046 at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 00:33:31 2012 From: raven2046 at gmail.com (Amber Harmon) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:33:31 -0600 Subject: a question about dropbox In-Reply-To: <215AC4E7-A648-4ED3-9349-0950AC3945FF@btinternet.com> References: <215AC4E7-A648-4ED3-9349-0950AC3945FF@btinternet.com> Message-ID: 'Hi I just got a mac air I had a macbook but I knocked a glass of water on it and it fried. I am trying to set up dropbox can anyone guide me threw it thanks. Amber On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > Hi all have a couple of mail questions for you. > > 1. When receiving mail, if I get a lot of mail. Example 28 messages for this list, why doesn't VO remember where I left off previously. To give you an example, going with the 28 messages well next time I use my Mac and have received all of those messages, I would be on 26 therefore I would have to arrow down twice my messages being sorted in the most recent at the very top and then start going up the list of unread ones. In other words, way doesn't VO stay on the message I last left it. If that makes any sense. > > 2. More simple this question and its simply is there any way to get VO to announce a message being unread. At present arrowing up and down unread messages makes them as red. > > I am using Lion with all latest updates. I also have Mail set in the standard view but I have disabled the conversation threading thing. > > Look forward to hearing from all you experienced Mac Mail users! > > Daniel > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 03:40:35 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:40:35 -0800 Subject: Easy encryption with Disk Utility | Macworld Message-ID: Here's a good way to password protect folders for some who want to do this. http://www.macworld.com/article/164697/2012/01/easy_encryption_with_disk_utility.html#lsrc.rss_weblogs_mac911 From raven2046 at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 03:42:37 2012 From: raven2046 at gmail.com (Amber Harmon) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:42:37 -0600 Subject: off topic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7A99FFB3-25C1-43D9-930B-326AE2D4F54E@gmail.com> Hi I no this is off topic is there any good lists for audio books? On Jan 10, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Here's a good way to password protect folders for some who want to do this. > > > http://www.macworld.com/article/164697/2012/01/easy_encryption_with_disk_utility.html#lsrc.rss_weblogs_mac911 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 08:23:25 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:23:25 -0600 Subject: a question about dropbox References: <215AC4E7-A648-4ED3-9349-0950AC3945FF@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <65535856CF6940C8A28D290796AB238C@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Amber, Assuming that you already have a dropbox account, download the .dmg file from their site and run the installer from the volume. In my experience, things totally fubared when I attempted to copy it to my applications folder and run from there. Specifically, I did not receive an accessible prompt for my dropbox credentials. I suspect you can set up a new account via the installer, but I didn't have to do this. After a successful installation, you'll find a dropBox folder in your home folder; the dropbox options are rendered visible via the shortcut menu (vo-shift-m). HTH. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Amber Harmon To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:33 PM Subject: a question about dropbox 'Hi I just got a mac air I had a macbook but I knocked a glass of water on it and it fried. I am trying to set up dropbox can anyone guide me threw it thanks. Amber On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > Hi all have a couple of mail questions for you. > > 1. When receiving mail, if I get a lot of mail. Example 28 messages for this list, why doesn't VO remember where I left off previously. To give you an example, going with the 28 messages well next time I use my Mac and have received all of those messages, I would be on 26 therefore I would have to arrow down twice my messages being sorted in the most recent at the very top and then start going up the list of unread ones. In other words, way doesn't VO stay on the message I last left it. If that makes any sense. > > 2. More simple this question and its simply is there any way to get VO to announce a message being unread. At present arrowing up and down unread messages makes them as red. > > I am using Lion with all latest updates. I also have Mail set in the standard view but I have disabled the conversation threading thing. > > Look forward to hearing from all you experienced Mac Mail users! > > Daniel > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Wed Jan 11 12:09:21 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:09:21 +0000 Subject: Amazing discovery Message-ID: <4F0D7BF1.3040103@techno-chat.net> I have just discovered that one can send voice memos as a regular text message. The person receiving the message hears the voice memo. That's pretty cool isn't it? From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 15:30:24 2012 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:30:24 -0000 Subject: 4s VO volume Message-ID: Hi all, Anyone know how to increase the volume of VO so that when I'm on a call it is louder? Cheers Roger From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Wed Jan 11 15:45:31 2012 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:45:31 +0000 Subject: 4s VO volume In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13D21EFD-B7D9-4B25-B761-A70ADDA06F39@virginmedia.com> Hi Roger! As far as I know you cannot do that! Apple in there wisdom have decided to make vo that way on the Iphones! The best suggestion is to use headphones and you'll be able to hear vo ok! Yes I know you might not want to use headphones all the time but that is your best bet! [Unless someone knows different! ] hahahahahahaha Colin On 11 Jan 2012, at 15:30, Roger Woolgrove wrote: > Hi all, > > Anyone know how to increase the volume of VO so that when I'm on a call it is louder? > > Cheers > > Roger > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 18:08:23 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:08:23 -0800 Subject: 4s VO volume In-Reply-To: <13D21EFD-B7D9-4B25-B761-A70ADDA06F39@virginmedia.com> References: <13D21EFD-B7D9-4B25-B761-A70ADDA06F39@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <9B69AD19-7F50-4CA0-AB76-6DA7FC12B149@gmail.com> It's a bug actually. I know some connections up there at hq and they are very aware of it and hopefully will have it fixed. That's all I can say on the matter. Take care. On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:45 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi Roger! > As far as I know you cannot do that! > Apple in there wisdom have decided to make vo that way on the Iphones! > The best suggestion is to use headphones and you'll be able to hear vo ok! > Yes I know you might not want to use headphones all the time but that is your best bet! > [Unless someone knows different! ] hahahahahahaha > Colin > > On 11 Jan 2012, at 15:30, Roger Woolgrove wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Anyone know how to increase the volume of VO so that when I'm on a call it is louder? >> >> Cheers >> >> Roger >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 18:09:30 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:09:30 -0800 Subject: Amazing discovery In-Reply-To: <4F0D7BF1.3040103@techno-chat.net> References: <4F0D7BF1.3040103@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Yeah. I think I did that for the first time whenI first got my iPhone now about 2 years ago. The amazing that is apple was the last model of phone to get this. they got it in april of 2010. lol! Take care all On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:09 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > I have just discovered that one can send voice memos as a regular text message. The person receiving the message hears the voice memo. That's pretty cool isn't it? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 18:10:04 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:10:04 -0800 Subject: a question about dropbox In-Reply-To: References: <215AC4E7-A648-4ED3-9349-0950AC3945FF@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <05BF48BF-3179-488E-ACE8-1358721890A9@gmail.com> Hello. Control click the dropbox app after you copy it to apps folder, then click show package contents, then contents then MacOS then click dropbox. the terminal window will open and it will then after 10 seconds or so show an installer you can then access. Take care. On Jan 10, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Amber Harmon wrote: > 'Hi I just got a mac air I had a macbook but I knocked a glass of water on it and it fried. I am trying to set up dropbox can anyone guide me threw it thanks. > > Amber > On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > >> Hi all have a couple of mail questions for you. >> >> 1. When receiving mail, if I get a lot of mail. Example 28 messages for this list, why doesn't VO remember where I left off previously. To give you an example, going with the 28 messages well next time I use my Mac and have received all of those messages, I would be on 26 therefore I would have to arrow down twice my messages being sorted in the most recent at the very top and then start going up the list of unread ones. In other words, way doesn't VO stay on the message I last left it. If that makes any sense. >> >> 2. More simple this question and its simply is there any way to get VO to announce a message being unread. At present arrowing up and down unread messages makes them as red. >> >> I am using Lion with all latest updates. I also have Mail set in the standard view but I have disabled the conversation threading thing. >> >> Look forward to hearing from all you experienced Mac Mail users! >> >> Daniel >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Wed Jan 11 18:35:33 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:35:33 +0000 Subject: Unlocking an iPhone 3GS Message-ID: <218DE463-8433-4D00-AEBA-28BFDFC46682@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, Do any of you good folks have experience of unlocking an iPhone so that you can use a different SIM card? My iPhone is pay as you go and is locked to Orange in the UK. I have researched the web and there seem to be three ways to unlock. 1. Jail break and then unlock. Several folks offer software to do this but it seems that the unlock may be undone whenever you upgrade via iTunes to a new level of IOS. Most providers offer lifetime updates for their solutions but some think this whole approach is risky. I also wonder if the software they provide is accessible via VoiceOver. 2. Get your phone onto the Apple list of unlocked phones via its IMEAI. Then that has been done you connect your phone to iTunes which will then unlock it. this seems to be a permanent solution. It seems to be about twice as expensive as the first alternative, but seems much less risky. 3. Approach Orange and get them to unlock the phone for a fee. I am not clear about what Orange will then do. Their frequently asked questions suggests that they will send you an unlock code which you have to enter onto the phone keypad. However other comments suggest that Orange will unlock by updating the Apple data base of in 2 above. Maybe the Orange FAQ mention of an unlock code does not apply to the iPhone. Approach 3 costs much the same as approach 1 and if it uses the iTunes method as in approach 2 then it looks like the best answer. However the bad news is that it takes Orange up to 30 days to do the above and many comments say that Orange fail to do the unlock and thus have to be chased several times adding to delay. If you have any experience of unlocking an iPhone I would appreciate your knowledge and advice. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Wed Jan 11 20:53:15 2012 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:53:15 +1100 Subject: Amazing discovery In-Reply-To: <4F0D7BF1.3040103@techno-chat.net> References: <4F0D7BF1.3040103@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <72E3BEED65494B6883D8C27793872255@PaulaPC> That is very cool, how do you do this? Can it be done with the IPhone 3GS? -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:09 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Amazing discovery I have just discovered that one can send voice memos as a regular text message. The person receiving the message hears the voice memo. That's pretty cool isn't it? <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 21:04:39 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:04:39 -0800 Subject: Amazing discovery In-Reply-To: <72E3BEED65494B6883D8C27793872255@PaulaPC> References: <4F0D7BF1.3040103@techno-chat.net> <72E3BEED65494B6883D8C27793872255@PaulaPC> Message-ID: Sure it can. go to voice memos, record one, then go to show recordings then choose your one you recorded. it should be chosen by default. After that click share on the bottom of the screen. it's before the del button. and then choose message and you are good to go. On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Paula Hobley wrote: > That is very cool, how do you do this? Can it be done with the IPhone 3GS? > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth > Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:09 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Amazing discovery > > I have just discovered that one can send voice memos as a regular text > message. The person receiving the message hears the voice memo. That's > pretty cool isn't it? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 21:07:06 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:07:06 -0600 Subject: XCode and C++, one more try. Message-ID: Greetings, I think there's at least one other lister using xCode. My question this time is how to test prompting for a value, or send command line parameters. For example, if I compile/run the following C++ in terminal, I get the expected result: #include using namespace std; int main (int argc, const char *argv[]) { int val; cout << "Enter a value: "; cin >> val cout << "You entered " << val; } When I enter the above as a command line tool project and go to the build results under product in the project navigator it appears to prompt for the value, but no matter what I enter, val is set to 1. I don't think this is a coding issue since its a pretty basic program and as stated, the output is as expected in the command line. If noone out there is using xCode, perhaps I should abandon the idea of developing in an IDE, but this seems to be a more marketable skill to acquire since this is now the main stream methodology. TIA for any assistance on or off list and best regards. Geoff From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Wed Jan 11 22:46:37 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:46:37 -0500 Subject: Notifications broken and the fix Message-ID: <78C0B95E-49DA-4C4A-818C-FECB8534D179@Mac-Access.net> Dear listers, Thanks to everyone that helped me when I asked for assistance with Notification Center. After calling Apple I turned to this list and was given many helpful tips. The problem was that two apps AP Mobile and iMap Radio were no longer showing up in notification Center. No matter what I did in settings nothing worked. Finally I deleted AP mobile from my phone and downloaded it again from the app store. it then began to work correctly. I then tried this with imap Radio. I was not sure if that fixed the problem but it did. I was just notified that a winter storm warning is in effect until tomorrow at 12:00 pm for my area. It is great to have the notification Center working correctly again. So If anyone has a app that didn't work in the Notification Center after restoring the phone, this might be your solution as well. Thanks everyone and wish me a nice snow day tomorrow or at least a two hour delay! We teacher types love these little school surprises. eric Caron From rawoolgrove at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 23:32:56 2012 From: rawoolgrove at gmail.com (Roger Woolgrove) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 23:32:56 -0000 Subject: New 4s notification weirdness Message-ID: <965CDB3DACF044E681DEA81C87E3445C@SamsungNC10> Hi all, As you have guessed, I got me a 4s which is nice. Still working with it. Using voice over and when I first unpacked it and got assistance setting it up, Voice Over spoke with the female Australian accent - which was nice. Since then I've set everything I can find to English United Kingdom and now have that male English accent which I'm not so keen on. Occassionally I am told to view notifications just swipe 3 fingers down and sure enough get a screen with details about Australian weather. Not being funny but I don't particularly care what the weather is like on the other side of the world. Does anyone know and are they able to tell me how to stop this being about Australia and changing it to Britain and if possible going back to the Australian accented Voice Over. Many thanks in advance and cheers for the help so far regarding VO volume on calls. Got a single piece BT earphone and got to set it up tomorrow. Roger From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Wed Jan 11 21:11:34 2012 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:11:34 +1100 Subject: Amazing discovery In-Reply-To: References: <4F0D7BF1.3040103@techno-chat.net><72E3BEED65494B6883D8C27793872255@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <8FD513E4E95F4AC6AC074D7202EA65B0@PaulaPC> Awesome, thanks for that, I'll hav 2 try it. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2012 8:05 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Amazing discovery Sure it can. go to voice memos, record one, then go to show recordings then choose your one you recorded. it should be chosen by default. After that click share on the bottom of the screen. it's before the del button. and then choose message and you are good to go. On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Paula Hobley wrote: > That is very cool, how do you do this? Can it be done with the IPhone 3GS? > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth > Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2012 11:09 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Amazing discovery > > I have just discovered that one can send voice memos as a regular text > message. The person receiving the message hears the voice memo. That's > pretty cool isn't it? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From a.beech at bigpond.net.au Thu Jan 12 01:06:08 2012 From: a.beech at bigpond.net.au (Adrian Beech) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:06:08 +1000 Subject: Thunderbolt monitor Message-ID: <000c01ccd0c6$5e028ff0$1a07afd0$@bigpond.net.au> G'day all, I'm looking at purchasing a 27 inch Thunderbolt monitor which will be used with a new MBP and would like to hear from those here who have had experience using the unit. The primary reason for getting a large screen monitor is that my sister is finding it harder to use her existing 20 inch Samsung. At present she has to sit up pretty close in order to see what is being displayed and I'm slightly concerned that as it has a glass face how much reflection there will be and if this will detract from it's usability. Thanks for any help with this matter. Cheers. AB From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 06:58:12 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:58:12 -0800 Subject: a problem with the twitter page and safari Message-ID: <2D1FC915-3647-457C-814F-61B78B7CF56A@gmail.com> Hello all I was trying to edit a twitter list and could not change its name. I made a youtube video about it so as to explain the issue. Basically what happens is the list changes don't stick. Here is the link to the thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_9wrnyfJ1k Take care all. From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 09:51:15 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 04:51:15 -0500 Subject: Thunderbolt monitor In-Reply-To: <000c01ccd0c6$5e028ff0$1a07afd0$@bigpond.net.au> References: <000c01ccd0c6$5e028ff0$1a07afd0$@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <005d01ccd10f$baa3bfb0$2feb3f10$@gmail.com> Well, my suggestion is while she still can see start learning Vo or some kind of screen reader as it sounds like it is going to happen ! I also recommend learning Brail while she still has vision. I sure the monitor will help the larger it is the larger you can go with the screen magnifier and get more text on the computer. Now I don't know exactly what Mac has in a magnifier but she might want to at least do a boot camp and run windows on it so she can use tzoomtext . But I think just learning Vo is the way to go! I would start teaching her now! JMT ! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Adrian Beech Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:06 PM To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: Thunderbolt monitor G'day all, I'm looking at purchasing a 27 inch Thunderbolt monitor which will be used with a new MBP and would like to hear from those here who have had experience using the unit. The primary reason for getting a large screen monitor is that my sister is finding it harder to use her existing 20 inch Samsung. At present she has to sit up pretty close in order to see what is being displayed and I'm slightly concerned that as it has a glass face how much reflection there will be and if this will detract from it's usability. Thanks for any help with this matter. Cheers. AB <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Thu Jan 12 11:23:01 2012 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:23:01 +0000 Subject: Thunderbolt monitor In-Reply-To: <005d01ccd10f$baa3bfb0$2feb3f10$@gmail.com> References: <000c01ccd0c6$5e028ff0$1a07afd0$@bigpond.net.au> <005d01ccd10f$baa3bfb0$2feb3f10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi there! The Mac has a built in zoom! You can also go from black on white to the reverse! And the zoom can go really big! hth Colin On 12 Jan 2012, at 09:51, Bubba wrote: > Well, my suggestion is while she still can see start learning Vo or some > kind of screen reader as it sounds like it is going to happen ! I also > recommend learning Brail while she still has vision. I sure the monitor will > help the larger it is the larger you can go with the screen magnifier and > get more text on the computer. Now I don't know exactly what Mac has in a > magnifier but she might want to at least do a boot camp and run windows on > it so she can use tzoomtext . But I think just learning Vo is the way to go! > I would start teaching her now! JMT ! > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Adrian Beech > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:06 PM > To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' > Subject: Thunderbolt monitor > > G'day all, > > > > I'm looking at purchasing a 27 inch Thunderbolt monitor which will be used > with a new MBP and would like to hear from those here who have had > experience using the unit. The primary reason for getting a large screen > monitor is that my sister is finding it harder to use her existing 20 inch > Samsung. At present she has to sit up pretty close in order to see what is > being displayed and I'm slightly concerned that as it has a glass face how > much reflection there will be and if this will detract from it's usability. > > > > Thanks for any help with this matter. > > > > Cheers. > > AB > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Thu Jan 12 14:03:54 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:03:54 +0000 Subject: problem on my mac Message-ID: <4f0ee532.6560b40a.3cd1.fffff83d@mx.google.com> i have done something on my mac and i don't know how to rectify it. what is now happening is that when i launch safari i-tunes keeps opening as well. how do i stop this from happening? From christoap at sky.com Thu Jan 12 16:14:11 2012 From: christoap at sky.com ( Christo Thiardt) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:14:11 -0000 Subject: On the Fly Message-ID: <000701ccd145$3b72f540$b258dfc0$@com> Hello Is it possible to wind forward/backward whilst reading documents using VoiceOver? If so, can someone tell me the command please. Many thanks in anticipation. Christo From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 08:46:43 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 02:46:43 -0600 Subject: New 4s notification weirdness References: <965CDB3DACF044E681DEA81C87E3445C@SamsungNC10> Message-ID: <0471310502A64D859D3CBE85AE14AC81@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Roger, For your weather issue I would start by going into settings -> and verify that location services is enabled and within location services that weather is authorized. A friend has a bug where the city displayed in the notification center is incorrect, though its not nearly as far off as what you're experiencing. In her situation the work-around was to open the weather app, edit cities and turn off the "local weather switch". Then upon adding a city, the last one selected will always appear in the notification center. To get the Australian voice you have two options. In settings -> general -> accessibility -> voiceOver, double tap the language rotor and select Australian English. Note that you will only get the "compact voice" of all but your default language. This brings me to option 2 which is more permanent. You can get the high quality version of the Australian voice by unselecting "compact voice" in voiceOver settings, and then in settings -> general -> international set your region format to Australia. The negative side affect of this approach is that it will probably fubar how voiceOver reads currencies and other items. I don't believe that there is an incompatibility between UK and Ausie dates, but here in the US, the UK or Australian speech engines might pronounce today's date as Thursday December 1st. Actually I just looked at the calendar and all three pronounced the date correctly, but I suspect that reading dates could still be confusing in other apps. Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Woolgrove To: MacAccess Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:32 PM Subject: New 4s notification weirdness Hi all, As you have guessed, I got me a 4s which is nice. Still working with it. Using voice over and when I first unpacked it and got assistance setting it up, Voice Over spoke with the female Australian accent - which was nice. Since then I've set everything I can find to English United Kingdom and now have that male English accent which I'm not so keen on. Occassionally I am told to view notifications just swipe 3 fingers down and sure enough get a screen with details about Australian weather. Not being funny but I don't particularly care what the weather is like on the other side of the world. Does anyone know and are they able to tell me how to stop this being about Australia and changing it to Britain and if possible going back to the Australian accented Voice Over. Many thanks in advance and cheers for the help so far regarding VO volume on calls. Got a single piece BT earphone and got to set it up tomorrow. Roger <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Wed Jan 11 23:10:31 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:10:31 -0600 Subject: VO and terminal. Message-ID: <9B815EBA656146FC9D6A88C0F722ED9B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Greetings, I seem to recall reading that a certain setting renders dialogs easier to read with voiceover? I checked preferences but nothing is jumping out at me. When I open a terminal window and type a command such as "LS" or "man", the resulting output seems to be garbled. Lines appear to be truncated, and/or I can't read my output. For example, if I type a command that I know does not exist such as fubar, I hear: "bash fubar command not found". The only way I've found to read this dialog is to either use left/right flicks on the trackpad or vo-arrow keys. I can not interact with the text or read one character at a time. If I use the arrow keys, the lines are either truncated, or text that appears when using the vo move commands is not spoken. I know many hear do a lot in terminal, so there must be a way to obtain more useful output with voiceOver. TIA for any getting started tips. Geoff From d.griffith at btinternet.com Thu Jan 12 17:55:15 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:55:15 -0000 Subject: On the Fly In-Reply-To: <000701ccd145$3b72f540$b258dfc0$@com> References: <000701ccd145$3b72f540$b258dfc0$@com> Message-ID: <11B6D03D30AA44BB8E78B1F36D0D9243@acer4d025c48b8> If you mean read forward and backwards by paragraph then it is shift vo page down and shift vo page up. . It will be slightly different if you are using a laptop key board. It will be shift vo and what ever keys you use to get the pate up and down function. Probably FN down arrow but I am not sure as I am not a laptop user. David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christo Thiardt Sent: 12 January 2012 16:14 To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: On the Fly Hello Is it possible to wind forward/backward whilst reading documents using VoiceOver? If so, can someone tell me the command please. Many thanks in anticipation. Christo <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 18:39:51 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:39:51 -0800 Subject: VO and terminal. In-Reply-To: <9B815EBA656146FC9D6A88C0F722ED9B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> References: <9B815EBA656146FC9D6A88C0F722ED9B@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <0C6D213B-E219-44B8-8C20-03CB91A1D303@gmail.com> You've got to interact with text and set the scrool value to I think 50 lines but you have to interact or you chars will be jumbled as it is adding stuff that I cannot type here due to the symbols. Take care. On Jan 11, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings, > > I seem to recall reading that a certain setting renders dialogs easier to read with voiceover? I checked preferences but nothing is jumping out at me. > > When I open a terminal window and type a command such as "LS" or "man", the resulting output seems to be garbled. Lines appear to be truncated, and/or I can't read my output. For example, if I type a command that I know does not exist such as fubar, I hear: "bash fubar command not found". The only way I've found to read this dialog is to either use left/right flicks on the trackpad or vo-arrow keys. I can not interact with the text or read one character at a time. If I use the arrow keys, the lines are either truncated, or text that appears when using the vo move commands is not spoken. > > I know many hear do a lot in terminal, so there must be a way to obtain more useful output with voiceOver. TIA for any getting started tips. > > Geoff > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jpanarese at mac-access.net Thu Jan 12 18:40:17 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:40:17 -0500 Subject: problem on my mac In-Reply-To: <4f0ee532.6560b40a.3cd1.fffff83d@mx.google.com> References: <4f0ee532.6560b40a.3cd1.fffff83d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Are you running Lion? Also, do you close iTunes before you shut down or reboot. Lion has the Resume feature in which running apps will reopen the next time you start your computer or reboot. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Jan 12, 2012, at 9:03 AM, michael weaver wrote: > i have done something on my mac and i don't know how to rectify it. > what is now happening is that when i launch safari i-tunes keeps opening as well. > how do i stop this from happening? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 18:38:30 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:38:30 -0800 Subject: On the Fly In-Reply-To: <11B6D03D30AA44BB8E78B1F36D0D9243@acer4d025c48b8> References: <000701ccd145$3b72f540$b258dfc0$@com> <11B6D03D30AA44BB8E78B1F36D0D9243@acer4d025c48b8> Message-ID: <9C36A308-C482-46BF-AF92-605D9FFCA79F@gmail.com> No I think he means literally rewind and fast forward. On some screen readers you could hit the shift keys to move right and left while in say all. I don't think this is possible. though with vo. On Jan 12, 2012, at 9:55 AM, David Griffith wrote: > If you mean read forward and backwards by paragraph then it is shift vo page > down and shift vo page up. . > It will be slightly different if you are using a laptop key board. It will > be shift vo and what ever keys you use to get the pate up and down function. > Probably FN down arrow but I am not sure as I am not a laptop user. > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christo Thiardt > Sent: 12 January 2012 16:14 > To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' > Subject: On the Fly > > Hello > > Is it possible to wind forward/backward whilst reading documents using > VoiceOver? If so, can someone tell me the command please. > > Many thanks in anticipation. > > Christo > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Thu Jan 12 19:39:59 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:39:59 +0000 Subject: still the i-tunes problem Message-ID: <4f0f33f6.6560b40a.3cd1.31b1@mx.google.com> i think i hit command i while in safari so i-tunes keeps opening in the background. i tried closing the window of i-tunes before quitting it and rebooting my mac but still the i-tunes window appears like it is loading two pages at onence, the page i normally load which it normally loags the page for my on-line banking etc and the i-tunes page. i a'm using lion. From christoap at sky.com Thu Jan 12 19:29:39 2012 From: christoap at sky.com ( Christo Thiardt) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:29:39 -0000 Subject: On the Fly In-Reply-To: <9C36A308-C482-46BF-AF92-605D9FFCA79F@gmail.com> References: <000701ccd145$3b72f540$b258dfc0$@com> <11B6D03D30AA44BB8E78B1F36D0D9243@acer4d025c48b8> <9C36A308-C482-46BF-AF92-605D9FFCA79F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002401ccd160$87442f00$95cc8d00$@com> Yes, Sarah is correct. Using JAWS on the pc you are able to "spool" forward or back whilst in Speak all mode. This is very useful for skimming through lengthy documents and quickly listening again to something that has not sunk in properly (which happens often in my case!) Thank you anyway. This is an extremely useful list for newcomers like myself. Christo -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: 12 January 2012 18:38 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: On the Fly No I think he means literally rewind and fast forward. On some screen readers you could hit the shift keys to move right and left while in say all. I don't think this is possible. though with vo. On Jan 12, 2012, at 9:55 AM, David Griffith wrote: > If you mean read forward and backwards by paragraph then it is shift vo page > down and shift vo page up. . > It will be slightly different if you are using a laptop key board. It will > be shift vo and what ever keys you use to get the pate up and down function. > Probably FN down arrow but I am not sure as I am not a laptop user. > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christo Thiardt > Sent: 12 January 2012 16:14 > To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' > Subject: On the Fly > > Hello > > Is it possible to wind forward/backward whilst reading documents using > VoiceOver? If so, can someone tell me the command please. > > Many thanks in anticipation. > > Christo > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From jpanarese at mac-access.net Thu Jan 12 19:32:09 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:32:09 -0500 Subject: still the i-tunes problem In-Reply-To: <4f0f33f6.6560b40a.3cd1.31b1@mx.google.com> References: <4f0f33f6.6560b40a.3cd1.31b1@mx.google.com> Message-ID: OK, quit Safari with command-option-q and see if that does it. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Jan 12, 2012, at 2:39 PM, michael weaver wrote: > i think i hit command i while in safari so i-tunes keeps opening in the background. > i tried closing the window of i-tunes before quitting it and rebooting my mac but still the i-tunes window appears like it is loading two pages at onence, the page i normally load which it normally loags the page for my on-line banking etc and the i-tunes page. > i a'm using lion. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Thu Jan 12 19:48:16 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:48:16 +0000 Subject: i-tunes problem solved Message-ID: <4f0f35e7.6750b40a.3e45.55a1@mx.google.com> i have just resolved my i-tunes problem and i think it was the same solution as with a problem where videos i had watched kept being executed. i closed the window with a couple of command plus w, rebooted my mac and it is no longer trying to bring up i-tunes while i am running safari. From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Thu Jan 12 19:59:16 2012 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 06:59:16 +1100 Subject: The Vocul app Message-ID: <41C88164E496486FAEFC7B141FF4D788@PaulaPC> Hi there I saw a post from Apple Vis about an app that is a siri alternative called Vocul. I looked in the app store, but couldn't find it. Is anybody else having this issue? Thanks for your help. Paula From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 20:16:49 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:16:49 -0800 Subject: The Vocul app In-Reply-To: <41C88164E496486FAEFC7B141FF4D788@PaulaPC> References: <41C88164E496486FAEFC7B141FF4D788@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <252809B4-DF3C-40EA-981B-58737D094C06@gmail.com> It might have been pulled or it might not be where you reside. Take care. On Jan 12, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi there > > > > I saw a post from Apple Vis about an app that is a siri alternative called > Vocul. I looked in the app store, but couldn't find it. Is anybody else > having this issue? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Paula > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Thu Jan 12 20:26:08 2012 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 07:26:08 +1100 Subject: The Vocul app In-Reply-To: <252809B4-DF3C-40EA-981B-58737D094C06@gmail.com> References: <41C88164E496486FAEFC7B141FF4D788@PaulaPC> <252809B4-DF3C-40EA-981B-58737D094C06@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1AEE3723189246D49150A5A6E69FAA2B@PaulaPC> Oh ok, how annoying, I was looking forward to that app. Take care Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Friday, 13 January 2012 7:17 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: The Vocul app It might have been pulled or it might not be where you reside. Take care. On Jan 12, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Paula Hobley wrote: > Hi there > > > > I saw a post from Apple Vis about an app that is a siri alternative called > Vocul. I looked in the app store, but couldn't find it. Is anybody else > having this issue? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Paula > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From support at mac-access.net Thu Jan 12 21:10:55 2012 From: support at mac-access.net (Gordon, Lynne & Tracy) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:10:55 +0000 Subject: New Take Control Title Available Now Message-ID: Hello group This is Tracy; writing to let you know about a brand new Take Control title. Our friends at Macworld have published a new edition of their guide to the iPhone, the "Macworld iPhone 4S Superguide." If you're interested read on. Although this new ebook focuses on the iPhone 4S (running iOS 5, of course), it also is great for iPhone 4 and 3GS users who are running iOS 5 (just skip the bits about Siri). If you're running iOS 5 on a third- or fourth-generation iPod touch, you'll find plenty of helpful advice, but the ebook doesn't call out differences between the iPhone and the iPod touch. The "Macworld iPhone 4S Superguide" kicks off with a rundown of iPhone 4S parts and ports, and then discusses the iOS 5 Setup Assistant plus how to configure a few more important settings. Next up, you'll find out about iPhone fundamentals, many of which may be a review if you've mastered multitasking and customizing the Home screen with folders, but there's also new content about using the new Siri voice feature on the 4S. The Superguide next discusses how to operate your iPhone as a modern telephone, with advice on tracking contacts, placing phone calls and video chats, and sending text messages. You'll learn about how to use the new iMessage service to send free text messages to other iOS 5 users. The discussion then moves on to basic Internet use from the iPhone, including help browsing the Web, working with email, and getting around in the Maps app. For those interested in office productivity, the Superguide discusses calendaring, iWork basics, using Microsoft Office and Google Docs, accessing files stored elsewhere, and printing. And, for times when you feel musical, it helps you with the Music and GarageBand apps. But wait! there's more! You'll also learn about watching videos and using the iMovie app, taking photos and using iCloud's Photo Stream, and reading ebooks and more with iBooks, Newsstand, or a third party app... plus get started with your New Year's resolution about world domination in Game Center. There's also a thoughtful troubleshooting chapter, and a chapter that shares Macworld's recommendations for accessories, such as cases, headphones, and speakers. Questions that you'll find answers to include: * What do all the symbols that appear at the top of my screen mean? * What are the basics of connecting my iPhone to iCloud? * How can I set up my Contacts so that Siri "knows" who my sister is? * How do I create a Reminder using Siri? * How do I sync media between my Mac and my iPhone? * How do I make my own ringtones? * How can I take a photo and then share it with Twitter? * How do I add and delete bookmarks from Safari? * How do I stream audio and video from my iPhone to some other device? * How do I stream audio and video from my computer to my iPhone? * How do I know if I need to force-quit an app? * What should I do if I get the "Connect to iTunes" screen? * How can I make the battery last longer? As always, thank you for your support! You know how to reach us if you're interested. Tracy From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 22:28:55 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:28:55 -0800 Subject: Select Text Like A Pro [OS X Tips] | Cult of Mac Message-ID: I don't have vo keys for this but enjoy the read anyway. http://www.cultofmac.com/138782/select-text-like-a-pro-os-x-tips/?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter From desiandcandy at q.com Thu Jan 12 22:39:54 2012 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:39:54 -0700 Subject: The Vocul app In-Reply-To: <1AEE3723189246D49150A5A6E69FAA2B@PaulaPC> References: <41C88164E496486FAEFC7B141FF4D788@PaulaPC> <252809B4-DF3C-40EA-981B-58737D094C06@gmail.com> <1AEE3723189246D49150A5A6E69FAA2B@PaulaPC> Message-ID: <20120112223954.desiandcandy@q.com> Hi Paula, I don't know this for a fact, but I believe the name of the app is spelled Vokul. Maybe you can find it that way. HTH! Desi ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula Hobley To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Date: Thursday, Jan 12, 2012 01:26:34 PM Subject: RE: The Vocul app > > > Oh ok, how annoying, I was looking forward to that app. > > Take care > > Paula > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Friday, 13 January 2012 7:17 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: The Vocul app > > It might have been pulled or it might not be where you reside. > > Take care. > On Jan 12, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Paula Hobley wrote: > > > Hi there > > > > > > > > I saw a post from Apple Vis about an app that is a siri alternative called > > Vocul. I looked in the app store, but couldn't find it. Is anybody else > > having this issue? > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > > > > > Paula > > > > > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > > > or at the public Mail Archive: > > . > > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 02:36:39 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:36:39 -0800 Subject: sarchiver site down? Message-ID: <7AED306A-1790-4AC7-9349-3F3A940CF62B@gmail.com> Hello. I just tried to download an update to SArchiver. I hit the download button and was taken to a web site a that aid the site is unavailable. if you are the owner please call blah blah blah. I googled for it but it is indeed down. I hope I still have the developer's email address to see if he knows it is down as I've had sites go down with out my noticing and they were down for months at a time lol! Here is the site it redirects to. http://sites.securepaynet.net/redirect_0.html Something does not seem right to me in looking at that address. Take care all. From james.austin at mac-access.net Fri Jan 13 06:53:46 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 06:53:46 +0000 Subject: sarchiver site down? In-Reply-To: <7AED306A-1790-4AC7-9349-3F3A940CF62B@gmail.com> References: <7AED306A-1790-4AC7-9349-3F3A940CF62B@gmail.com> Message-ID: It looks very odd to me too. For a start, the site is not secure. It should read "https" not "http". You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 13 Jan 2012, at 02:36, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. I just tried to download an update to SArchiver. I hit the download button and was taken to a web site a that aid the site is unavailable. if you are the owner please call blah blah blah. > > I googled for it but it is indeed down. I hope I still have the developer's email address to see if he knows it is down as I've had sites go down with out my noticing and they were down for months at a time lol! > > Here is the site it redirects to. > > http://sites.securepaynet.net/redirect_0.html > > Something does not seem right to me in looking at that address. > > Take care all. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 07:03:10 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:03:10 -0800 Subject: sarchiver site down? In-Reply-To: References: <7AED306A-1790-4AC7-9349-3F3A940CF62B@gmail.com> Message-ID: I noticed that as well. Looks like either 1 it was hacked or 2 bills weren't paid. *smiles* or both. I hope there is a way to let the person know some how. if his email is from that site there might not be. Thoughts anyone? I'd hate to see this wonderful program go. Take care all. On Jan 12, 2012, at 10:53 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > It looks very odd to me too. For a start, the site is not secure. It should read "https" not "http". > You can contact me in the following ways: > E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you > > On 13 Jan 2012, at 02:36, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello. I just tried to download an update to SArchiver. I hit the download button and was taken to a web site a that aid the site is unavailable. if you are the owner please call blah blah blah. >> >> I googled for it but it is indeed down. I hope I still have the developer's email address to see if he knows it is down as I've had sites go down with out my noticing and they were down for months at a time lol! >> >> Here is the site it redirects to. >> >> http://sites.securepaynet.net/redirect_0.html >> >> Something does not seem right to me in looking at that address. >> >> Take care all. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jan 13 15:03:04 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:03:04 -0400 Subject: an in depth tutorial for using the iPhone 4S particularly with Voiceover. Message-ID: Hello: I am looking for material that I can use to train some of our clients in the use of the iPhone 4S and Voiceover. Is there a good tutorial out there? Thanks all over the place gang. From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 15:49:24 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:49:24 -0500 Subject: an in depth tutorial for using the iPhone 4S particularly with Voiceover. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, several see link below. http://itunes.apple.com/lk/podcast/apple-accessibility/id423121261 http://axslab.com/articles/new-voiceover-features-in-ios5.php http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=2287 http://axslab.com/articles/ios-voiceover-gestures-and-keyboard-commands.php http://allwithmyiphone.com/ Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Jim Noseworthy Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:03 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: an in depth tutorial for using the iPhone 4S particularly with Voiceover. Hello: I am looking for material that I can use to train some of our clients in the use of the iPhone 4S and Voiceover. Is there a good tutorial out there? Thanks all over the place gang. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk Fri Jan 13 16:19:11 2012 From: sunil.peck at disabilitynow.org.uk (Sunil Peck) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:19:11 +0000 Subject: Resetting settings for Googlemail account in Apple Mail Message-ID: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02E2A6DE39C0@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Hi, Is there a way to restore the default settings for a Googlemail account in Mail? I'm unable to send any emails at the moment, when VoiceOver reads out the SMTP server when I navigate through the fields while composing an email, it says that my SMTP server is offline. I don't know what that means and can't find an option anywhere to restore the proper settings. Thanks a lot, Sunil Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by guarantee (number 520866). Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. Our VAT number is 805156939. Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the views of Scope. From mfurness at bell.net Fri Jan 13 17:28:22 2012 From: mfurness at bell.net (Mark Furness) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:28:22 -0500 Subject: transferring addresses from PC Message-ID: I am trying to change my friend over to a I Pad. Her main use will be emailing How do I transfer her outlook express address list over to Mac'x mail? Thank you for all your help! Mark I thought I was a god, but then found out I'm only dyslexic. From tracy at mac-access.net Fri Jan 13 17:41:41 2012 From: tracy at mac-access.net (Tracy Thompson) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:41:41 +0000 Subject: When you order TC books Message-ID: <06841E45-2AF7-43BD-8E30-A4E994C02A6C@mac-access.net> Hello group Firstly, thank you for ordering the new book, those of you who wish too. Could I just ask please that your request includes the email address you would like us to use? That way it means that new little I myself can process your request and avoid the delays. Lynne is quite busy just at the moment. Thank you. Tracy From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 18:51:27 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:51:27 -0800 Subject: Resetting settings for Googlemail account in Apple Mail In-Reply-To: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02E2A6DE39C0@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> References: <735718951AB5F540890F4418363E43BD02E2A6DE39C0@MR-EMAIL.hq.scope.org.uk> Message-ID: <4AA27EAF-4F15-4583-B9F7-262DD051452C@gmail.com> I believe it is in the pref, accounts and there you can set the smtp server. alternatively you can go to /Users/username/Library/Mail/V2 and delete the folders IMAP-marrie12 at imap.gmail.com Mailboxes MailData You will have to recreate the account but I've found this worked when I was having some issues. On Jan 13, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Sunil Peck wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to restore the default settings for a Googlemail account in Mail? I'm unable to send any emails at the moment, when VoiceOver reads out the SMTP server when I navigate through the fields while composing an email, it says that my SMTP server is offline. I don't know what that means and can't find an option anywhere to restore the proper settings. > > Thanks a lot, > Sunil > > Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by > guarantee (number 520866). > Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. > Our VAT number is 805156939. > > > Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk > > This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential > and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been > addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this > message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are > required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the > sender immediately. 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In there, go to the edit smtp servers elipsis. Make sure the gmail setting are correct there. On Jan 13, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Sunil Peck wrote: Hi, Is there a way to restore the default settings for a Googlemail account in Mail? I'm unable to send any emails at the moment, when VoiceOver reads out the SMTP server when I navigate through the fields while composing an email, it says that my SMTP server is offline. I don't know what that means and can't find an option anywhere to restore the proper settings. Thanks a lot, Sunil Scope is a registered charity (number 208231) and a company limited by guarantee (number 520866). Our registered office is at 6 Market Road, London N7 9PW, England. Our VAT number is 805156939. Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: -- Marcy marcy.weinberg1 at gmail.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 19:07:57 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:07:57 -0800 Subject: sarchiver site down? In-Reply-To: References: <7AED306A-1790-4AC7-9349-3F3A940CF62B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ok I just got hold of the dev and he is aware of the problem and is working on it. He says it will be up very soon. Just thought I'd let yall know. Take care all. On Jan 12, 2012, at 10:53 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > It looks very odd to me too. For a start, the site is not secure. It should read "https" not "http". > You can contact me in the following ways: > E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you > > On 13 Jan 2012, at 02:36, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hello. I just tried to download an update to SArchiver. I hit the download button and was taken to a web site a that aid the site is unavailable. if you are the owner please call blah blah blah. >> >> I googled for it but it is indeed down. I hope I still have the developer's email address to see if he knows it is down as I've had sites go down with out my noticing and they were down for months at a time lol! >> >> Here is the site it redirects to. >> >> http://sites.securepaynet.net/redirect_0.html >> >> Something does not seem right to me in looking at that address. >> >> Take care all. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Fri Jan 13 22:22:34 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:22:34 -0400 Subject: an in depth tutorial for using the iPhone 4S particularly with Voiceover. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yo Bubba: Thanks all over the place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: RE: an in depth tutorial for using the iPhone 4S particularly with Voiceover. > Yes, several see link below. > > http://itunes.apple.com/lk/podcast/apple-accessibility/id423121261 > > http://axslab.com/articles/new-voiceover-features-in-ios5.php > > http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=2287 > > http://axslab.com/articles/ios-voiceover-gestures-and-keyboard-commands.php > > http://allwithmyiphone.com/ > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Jim Noseworthy > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:03 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: an in depth tutorial for using the iPhone 4S particularly with > Voiceover. > > Hello: > > I am looking for material that I can use to train some of our clients in > the > use of the iPhone 4S and Voiceover. Is there a good tutorial out there? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6793 (20120113) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6793 (20120113) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Fri Jan 13 22:52:19 2012 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:52:19 +1100 Subject: Thunderbolt monitor In-Reply-To: <000c01ccd0c6$5e028ff0$1a07afd0$@bigpond.net.au> References: <000c01ccd0c6$5e028ff0$1a07afd0$@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: Hi, The zoom of the Mac goes up to about 14 times. The Thunderbolt permits you to have either mirror displays or the desktop spread across both screens. There is even attachments to permit more then one screen. You plug it in with the DVI or SVGA connector. The Mac auto detects and in the preferences for the display. You can adjust how the screens work and colour. It is very cool. I use it for work so my coworkers can assist when I am working on issues. Sean On 12/01/2012, at 12:06 PM, Adrian Beech wrote: > G'day all, > > > > I'm looking at purchasing a 27 inch Thunderbolt monitor which will be used > with a new MBP and would like to hear from those here who have had > experience using the unit. The primary reason for getting a large screen > monitor is that my sister is finding it harder to use her existing 20 inch > Samsung. At present she has to sit up pretty close in order to see what is > being displayed and I'm slightly concerned that as it has a glass face how > much reflection there will be and if this will detract from it's usability. > > > > Thanks for any help with this matter. > > > > Cheers. > > AB > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Jan 14 00:23:35 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:23:35 -0400 Subject: Two Questions. Message-ID: Hi folks: A couple of questions: 1. How does one use sound flower since when one cursers down to sound flower, there is no longer any audio? 2. Is there a way to fource a Mac to use the internal speakers if one gets lost with out audio? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6793 (20120113) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Jan 14 00:57:08 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:57:08 -0400 Subject: deleting unused sound drivers from my Mac Message-ID: Hi Folks: I was thinking about purchasing a MM100 BlueTooth stereo headset dso I tried them on my Mac. I decided against the purchase however, the driver still shows up in my list of sound cards. How do I delete the driver and reference? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6793 (20120113) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 01:09:34 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:09:34 -0800 Subject: Two Questions. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For yoru first one use a nice program called line in from rog amiba. You can have yoru audio come out the speakers even with soudn flower running. I use this all the time and it works. Take care. On Jan 13, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi folks: > > A couple of questions: > > 1. How does one use sound flower since when one cursers down to sound flower, there is no longer any audio? > > 2. Is there a way to fource a Mac to use the internal speakers if one gets lost with out audio? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6793 (20120113) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sat Jan 14 08:34:11 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 08:34:11 +0000 Subject: document. Message-ID: <0FB9C811-AEEA-4E3A-86F4-36CC0678E3E3@googlemail.com> Hello, a friend sent me a.doc file which i was able to open and re add to. How ever when i came to save it it made me save it again as a pages file. Is there anyway that i can save it in pages and send it to the person who is using word so they can still open it. thanks very much. It would not just let me do command s and save the changes i added in. Ian McNamara From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sat Jan 14 10:12:16 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:12:16 +0100 Subject: document. In-Reply-To: <0FB9C811-AEEA-4E3A-86F4-36CC0678E3E3@googlemail.com> References: <0FB9C811-AEEA-4E3A-86F4-36CC0678E3E3@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hello Ian, To convert a Pages document into Word format, you use the File menu and the Export command. There you'll find a number of options besides Word, so make sure you select the right one. Cheers, Anne On 14 Jan 2012, at 09:34, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hello, a friend sent me a.doc file which i was able to open and re add to. How ever when i came to save it it made me save it again as a pages file. Is there anyway that i can save it in pages and send it to the person who is using word so they can still open it. > > thanks very much. > > It would not just let me do command s and save the changes i added in. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 13:31:45 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 08:31:45 -0500 Subject: how accessible is snowtape for mac? Message-ID: Hi, Is buying snowtape for mac worth my money, is it even accessible with voiceover? Thanks, Courtney From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Jan 14 13:41:04 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:41:04 -0400 Subject: An Audio Question. Message-ID: <7B146DC93CF84810B2B861A8D20528D8@MainComputer> Hi Folks: I am using a cordless USB headset for the Skype program. I can get Skype to use both the mick as well as the headphones; the problem is that, the volume control on the headset controls the default Mac volume but does not alter the sound level of Skype. Is there a way around this? Thanks all over the place gang. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6794 (20120114) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sat Jan 14 14:30:56 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 01:30:56 +1100 Subject: zombies run! iphone game In-Reply-To: References: <76B57509-D888-4FD2-A279-B8E94530D420@gmail.com> Message-ID: its cool too bad i didn't see this email before i broght the product lol have spoke to the deves and i will just muck around with it when it comes out see what i can do they said they will try release vo as soon as they can after the lornch or i could get a refund if i want to but think i wil just play it till vo comes out or let other family use it till then like my neace and nephiews so yeah On 09/01/2012, at 3:16 AM, James AUSTIN wrote: > What a cool idea. However, I've been in touch with the developers, and while they do intend to implement VoiceOver support, they will not have it ready by the time they launch. They said that they would keep me updated though, so when I know I'll pass along. > > TC :) > J > You can contact me in the following ways: > E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you > > On 8 Jan 2012, at 10:55, william lomas wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFqZtKvya0 > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sat Jan 14 14:33:22 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 01:33:22 +1100 Subject: zombies run! iphone game In-Reply-To: References: <76B57509-D888-4FD2-A279-B8E94530D420@gmail.com> Message-ID: <078487C2-AE87-4275-A192-5F97EC562075@bluebottle.com> me to smiles On 09/01/2012, at 4:52 AM, Orin wrote: > I'm gonna try it anyway regardless. > Orin > orin8722 at gmail.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks > Skype: orin1112 > > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 11:47 AM, william lomas wrote: > >> why doesn't voiceover work, what support does it need? >> yet again we have to wait for support >> >> On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:16 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> What a cool idea. However, I've been in touch with the developers, and while they do intend to implement VoiceOver support, they will not have it ready by the time they launch. They said that they would keep me updated though, so when I know I'll pass along. >>> >>> TC :) >>> J >>> You can contact me in the following ways: >>> E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net >>> MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com >>> Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2012, at 10:55, william lomas wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFqZtKvya0 >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 14:43:01 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 14:43:01 +0000 Subject: zombies run! iphone game In-Reply-To: <078487C2-AE87-4275-A192-5F97EC562075@bluebottle.com> References: <76B57509-D888-4FD2-A279-B8E94530D420@gmail.com> <078487C2-AE87-4275-A192-5F97EC562075@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <1839EE58-A992-47A3-BC8D-1D528AF9CD1D@gmail.com> when is it meant be out? pre-ordering doesn't mean we get it when they say we do On Jan 14, 2012, at 2:33 PM, krystal watson wrote: > me to smiles > On 09/01/2012, at 4:52 AM, Orin wrote: > >> I'm gonna try it anyway regardless. >> Orin >> orin8722 at gmail.com >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks >> Skype: orin1112 >> >> >> >> On Jan 8, 2012, at 11:47 AM, william lomas wrote: >> >>> why doesn't voiceover work, what support does it need? >>> yet again we have to wait for support >>> >>> On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:16 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>> >>>> What a cool idea. However, I've been in touch with the developers, and while they do intend to implement VoiceOver support, they will not have it ready by the time they launch. They said that they would keep me updated though, so when I know I'll pass along. >>>> >>>> TC :) >>>> J >>>> You can contact me in the following ways: >>>> E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net >>>> MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com >>>> Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you >>>> >>>> On 8 Jan 2012, at 10:55, william lomas wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFqZtKvya0 >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From christoap at sky.com Sat Jan 14 15:12:57 2012 From: christoap at sky.com (Christo Thiardt) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:12:57 +0000 Subject: Simple questions from a Beginner Message-ID: <3B382172-9B09-4FA7-8A14-481012B8530A@sky.com> Dear SomeOne I am struggling to get the Find Command to work in Text Edit. No matter what I do I cannot get it to find the text looked for even though it is clearly visible. (I tried exploring case sensitivity.) Secondly, how do I "click" on an attachment in Mail to open it? I would really appreciate some wisdom on the above. Many thanks in anticipation Sincerely Christo From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Jan 14 17:15:03 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:15:03 +0000 Subject: Switching to a mac Message-ID: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> Hello all. Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. 2. Manage my e-mail. 3. Listen to and manage music. 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. I am looking into a laptop style mac. 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with no rush necessary. Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 1997. It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much appreciated. From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sat Jan 14 17:39:00 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:39:00 +0100 Subject: Simple questions from a Beginner In-Reply-To: <3B382172-9B09-4FA7-8A14-481012B8530A@sky.com> References: <3B382172-9B09-4FA7-8A14-481012B8530A@sky.com> Message-ID: <334F3931-D5DF-46FA-AD9C-E24B17251834@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Christo, In TextEdit, you need to be interacting with the text area for the VO Find command to work. If you're using the standard Find command, then you have to switch windows to be back in the text where the result is highlighted. As for attachments in Mail, you can interact with the message body and position yourself on the attachment, then do Command-y for Quick Look. Or you can save the attachment by interacting with the message headers and navigating right to the Save button. Press VO-Space to open this menu and press Return to select the option you want. You'll be in a dialogue box where you can choose what to call the item and where to put it. Cheers, Anne On 14 Jan 2012, at 16:12, Christo Thiardt wrote: > Dear SomeOne > > I am struggling to get the Find Command to work in Text Edit. No matter what I do I cannot get it to find the text looked for even though it is clearly visible. (I tried exploring case sensitivity.) > > Secondly, how do I "click" on an attachment in Mail to open it? > > I would really appreciate some wisdom on the above. > > Many thanks in anticipation > > Sincerely > > Christo > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 17:44:52 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:44:52 -0800 Subject: Simple questions from a Beginner In-Reply-To: <334F3931-D5DF-46FA-AD9C-E24B17251834@anarchie.org.uk> References: <3B382172-9B09-4FA7-8A14-481012B8530A@sky.com> <334F3931-D5DF-46FA-AD9C-E24B17251834@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: To open the attachment in mail you can also find it and then vo shift m and click the command for open and it will hopefully open it. if it has a program to open it with. On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Christo, > > In TextEdit, you need to be interacting with the text area for the VO Find command to work. If you're using the standard Find command, then you have to switch windows to be back in the text where the result is highlighted. > > As for attachments in Mail, you can interact with the message body and position yourself on the attachment, then do Command-y for Quick Look. Or you can save the attachment by interacting with the message headers and navigating right to the Save button. Press VO-Space to open this menu and press Return to select the option you want. You'll be in a dialogue box where you can choose what to call the item and where to put it. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 14 Jan 2012, at 16:12, Christo Thiardt wrote: > >> Dear SomeOne >> >> I am struggling to get the Find Command to work in Text Edit. No matter what I do I cannot get it to find the text looked for even though it is clearly visible. (I tried exploring case sensitivity.) >> >> Secondly, how do I "click" on an attachment in Mail to open it? >> >> I would really appreciate some wisdom on the above. >> >> Many thanks in anticipation >> >> Sincerely >> >> Christo >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 17:47:06 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:47:06 -0800 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> lol. Good luck in browsing the facebook site. If you want to do that then you have to open it using the develop ,agent menu and choosing IE8. trust me this works. and the mail program is just wonderful in my opinion As for editing go with text edit as it is already there. You can accomplish all you need there. In fact I only use the other os for klango and firefox as tha'ts not accessibil in osx yet. Take care. On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:15 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > Hello all. > Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: > 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. > 2. Manage my e-mail. > 3. Listen to and manage music. > 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. > 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. > I am looking into a laptop style mac. > 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. > I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with no rush necessary. > Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 1997. It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. > Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much appreciated. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 17:48:12 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:48:12 -0800 Subject: An Audio Question. In-Reply-To: <7B146DC93CF84810B2B861A8D20528D8@MainComputer> References: <7B146DC93CF84810B2B861A8D20528D8@MainComputer> Message-ID: No. Well yes. you need to set the output also to the sound card of yoru headset in order for that to work. You do thiw in system prefs or by holding down option f12 to get there or option fn 12 if you have to. Take care. On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I am using a cordless USB headset for the Skype program. I can get Skype to use both the mick as well as the headphones; the problem is that, the volume control on the headset controls the default Mac volume but does not alter the sound level of Skype. > > Is there a way around this? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6794 (20120114) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 17:48:48 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:48:48 -0800 Subject: how accessible is snowtape for mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: and what is snowtape? what does it do? can you give us a bit of a disciption and perhaps a website to go check it out? thanks. On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:31 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Is buying snowtape for mac worth my money, is it even accessible with voiceover? > Thanks, > Courtney > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rattail4 at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 17:49:54 2012 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:49:54 -0500 Subject: Switching to a Mac In-Reply-To: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <0CEDA896E5214CA8B0F36228EEE4EADD@MQUAD> The Mac can do all you want with flying colors, it comes down to what exactly you want in a Mac. you said a laptop so it then comes down to if you want an optical drive or not really. -------------------------------------------------- From: "chris hallsworth" Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:15 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Switching to a mac > Hello all. > Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and > it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am > considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: > 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. > 2. Manage my e-mail. > 3. Listen to and manage music. > 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. > 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, with > hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. > I am looking into a laptop style mac. > 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, either > via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. > I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with no > rush necessary. > Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since > 1997. It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod > Touch. > Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much > appreciated. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Sat Jan 14 17:58:08 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:58:08 -0400 Subject: An Audio Question. In-Reply-To: References: <7B146DC93CF84810B2B861A8D20528D8@MainComputer> Message-ID: <0CB4458CC915496E8C6FE70528BB5FB7@MainComputer> Sarah: Thanks for your post. The problem with that solution is that it changes the default soundcard across the board. Onlike the Windows version of Skype, there does not appear to be a way to change the output level in the Skype preferences. Is that correct? If so, bummer. Thanks all over the place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:48 PM Subject: Re: An Audio Question. > No. Well yes. you need to set the output also to the sound card of yoru > headset in order for that to work. You do thiw in system prefs or by > holding down option f12 to get there or option fn 12 if you have to. > > Take care. > On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Hi Folks: >> >> I am using a cordless USB headset for the Skype program. I can get Skype >> to use both the mick as well as the headphones; the problem is that, the >> volume control on the headset controls the default Mac volume but does >> not alter the sound level of Skype. >> >> Is there a way around this? >> >> Thanks all over the place gang. >> >> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy >> Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 6794 (20120114) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6795 (20120114) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6795 (20120114) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 18:02:04 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:02:04 -0500 Subject: how accessible is snowtape for mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <23D36E14-0AFB-4D3C-B339-8FF09A3AB0F0@gmail.com> Hi, I'm not sure about the website, but snowtape you can schedule and record radio stations for later listening. Thanks, Courtney On 14/01/2012, at 12:48 in the Afternoon, Sarah Alawami wrote: > and what is snowtape? what does it do? can you give us a bit of a disciption and perhaps a website to go check it out? > > thanks. > On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:31 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> Is buying snowtape for mac worth my money, is it even accessible with voiceover? >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Sat Jan 14 18:24:16 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:24:16 -0500 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <280E0E12-66D7-4E50-B2EC-862A324A2058@me.com> Hi Chris, To expand a bit on Sarah's note, you can implement her Facebook / IE8 suggestion by doing the following: 1. when you're in Safari go to Safari Preferences by pressing Command+comma. 2. In Safari Preferences interact with the toolbar, select the"Advanced" button, stop interacting with the toolbar, navigate to the item labeled, "Show Develop Menu in Menu Bar," and make sure this checkbox is checked. This will add a menu item labeled "Develop" into the menu for both Safari and Webkit. 3. To set Safari to identify itself as Internet Explorer 8, go to the Develop menu / User Agent / and select Internet Explorer 8. Another option you're probably already aware of is the feature-limited but friendlier "mobile" version of FB available at m.facebook.com HTH, Bryan , On Jan 14, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > lol. Good luck in browsing the facebook site. If you want to do that then you have to open it using the develop ,agent menu and choosing IE8. trust me this works. From zkline at speedpost.net Sat Jan 14 18:29:05 2012 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:29:05 -0800 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <280E0E12-66D7-4E50-B2EC-862A324A2058@me.com> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> <280E0E12-66D7-4E50-B2EC-862A324A2058@me.com> Message-ID: <37F06071-6448-4CB8-9BF0-149330A15782@speedpost.net> Hi Brian and all, Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've generally had few problems browsing the Facebook site without changing the user agent. Granted, I switched from Safari to Crome for my primary browsing needs a while ago, which seems to have improved performance and stability over all. That being said, the user agent trick is unfortunately needed for some sites, including certain US government ones which have very strict browser requirements which don't take Safari or Crome into account. I don't know how to change Crome's reported agent string, in point of fact. Yours, Zack. On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Chris, > > To expand a bit on Sarah's note, you can implement her Facebook / IE8 suggestion by doing the following: > 1. when you're in Safari go to Safari Preferences by pressing Command+comma. > 2. In Safari Preferences interact with the toolbar, select the"Advanced" button, stop interacting with the toolbar, navigate to the item labeled, "Show Develop Menu in Menu Bar," and make sure this checkbox is checked. This will add a menu item labeled "Develop" into the menu for both Safari and Webkit. > 3. To set Safari to identify itself as Internet Explorer 8, go to the Develop menu / User Agent / and select Internet Explorer 8. > > Another option you're probably already aware of is the feature-limited but friendlier "mobile" version of FB available at m.facebook.com > > HTH, > Bryan > > , On Jan 14, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> lol. Good luck in browsing the facebook site. If you want to do that then you have to open it using the develop ,agent menu and choosing IE8. trust me this works. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Jan 14 18:59:36 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:59:36 +0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <280E0E12-66D7-4E50-B2EC-862A324A2058@me.com> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> <280E0E12-66D7-4E50-B2EC-862A324A2058@me.com> Message-ID: <4F11D098.7040604@techno-chat.net> Thanks Bryan. I plan to use m.facebook.com and I have heard that it is displayed differently, possibly even inaccessible, on a mac. Is this really true? I'm sure I could work it out, but anyway, please advise. Thanks! On 14/01/2012 18:24, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Chris, > > To expand a bit on Sarah's note, you can implement her Facebook / IE8 suggestion by doing the following: > 1. when you're in Safari go to Safari Preferences by pressing Command+comma. > 2. In Safari Preferences interact with the toolbar, select the"Advanced" button, stop interacting with the toolbar, navigate to the item labeled, "Show Develop Menu in Menu Bar," and make sure this checkbox is checked. This will add a menu item labeled "Develop" into the menu for both Safari and Webkit. > 3. To set Safari to identify itself as Internet Explorer 8, go to the Develop menu / User Agent / and select Internet Explorer 8. > > Another option you're probably already aware of is the feature-limited but friendlier "mobile" version of FB available at m.facebook.com > > HTH, > Bryan > > , On Jan 14, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> lol. Good luck in browsing the facebook site. If you want to do that then you have to open it using the develop ,agent menu and choosing IE8. trust me this works. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Jan 14 19:00:54 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:00:54 +0000 Subject: Switching to a Mac In-Reply-To: <0CEDA896E5214CA8B0F36228EEE4EADD@MQUAD> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <0CEDA896E5214CA8B0F36228EEE4EADD@MQUAD> Message-ID: <4F11D0E6.40008@techno-chat.net> True, haven't really thought about needing an optical drive. I do get the occasional music CD but I purchase most things online via electronic download then burn them to CD/DVD at a later date. So yes, an optical drive would be nice but if not I could always purchase an external one. On 14/01/2012 17:49, Mike Welty wrote: > The Mac can do all you want with flying colors, it comes down to what > exactly you want in a Mac. you said a laptop so it then comes down to if > you want an optical drive or not really. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "chris hallsworth" > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:15 > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Subject: Switching to a mac > >> Hello all. >> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >> 2. Manage my e-mail. >> 3. Listen to and manage music. >> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >> no rush necessary. >> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since >> 1997. It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod >> Touch. >> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much >> appreciated. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Jan 14 19:02:16 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:02:16 +0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F11D138.1000808@techno-chat.net> Oh, good point, as I would need Firefox for those times when a captcha is needed and no audio version is available. There was Solona but the developer is very ill and hasn't been online for a while. So I consider it unreliable and useless. So like to use Webvisum. Well I could use the other OS for that. On 14/01/2012 17:47, Sarah Alawami wrote: > lol. Good luck in browsing the facebook site. If you want to do that then you have to open it using the develop ,agent menu and choosing IE8. trust me this works. and the mail program is just wonderful in my opinion As for editing go with text edit as it is already there. You can accomplish all you need there. In fact I only use the other os for klango and firefox as tha'ts not accessibil in osx yet. > > Take care. > On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:15 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Hello all. >> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >> 2. Manage my e-mail. >> 3. Listen to and manage music. >> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with no rush necessary. >> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 1997. It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. >> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much appreciated. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 19:22:17 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:22:17 -0800 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <280E0E12-66D7-4E50-B2EC-862A324A2058@me.com> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> <280E0E12-66D7-4E50-B2EC-862A324A2058@me.com> Message-ID: <9951F2AA-B0D8-4128-A9E2-BFE7E87759A9@gmail.com> Actually tha'ts what I use the agent thing on, the facebook mobile site. its changed so much it's hard to use. No feedback and text that does not say clicable but when you click on it it does things. and yeah. Take care. On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Chris, > > To expand a bit on Sarah's note, you can implement her Facebook / IE8 suggestion by doing the following: > 1. when you're in Safari go to Safari Preferences by pressing Command+comma. > 2. In Safari Preferences interact with the toolbar, select the"Advanced" button, stop interacting with the toolbar, navigate to the item labeled, "Show Develop Menu in Menu Bar," and make sure this checkbox is checked. This will add a menu item labeled "Develop" into the menu for both Safari and Webkit. > 3. To set Safari to identify itself as Internet Explorer 8, go to the Develop menu / User Agent / and select Internet Explorer 8. > > Another option you're probably already aware of is the feature-limited but friendlier "mobile" version of FB available at m.facebook.com > > HTH, > Bryan > > , On Jan 14, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> lol. Good luck in browsing the facebook site. If you want to do that then you have to open it using the develop ,agent menu and choosing IE8. trust me this works. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 19:23:25 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:23:25 -0800 Subject: how accessible is snowtape for mac? In-Reply-To: <23D36E14-0AFB-4D3C-B339-8FF09A3AB0F0@gmail.com> References: <23D36E14-0AFB-4D3C-B339-8FF09A3AB0F0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5375980B-3875-43DD-A9D7-7F1F478E5855@gmail.com> Ah sounds like fun. I might give that a try, but I hardly listen to anything now a days but yeah at least the option is still there. for those of us that want it. Thanks. On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I'm not sure about the website, but snowtape you can schedule and record radio stations for later listening. > Thanks, > Courtney > On 14/01/2012, at 12:48 in the Afternoon, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> and what is snowtape? what does it do? can you give us a bit of a disciption and perhaps a website to go check it out? >> >> thanks. >> On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:31 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Is buying snowtape for mac worth my money, is it even accessible with voiceover? >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 19:24:07 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:24:07 -0800 Subject: An Audio Question. In-Reply-To: <0CB4458CC915496E8C6FE70528BB5FB7@MainComputer> References: <7B146DC93CF84810B2B861A8D20528D8@MainComputer> <0CB4458CC915496E8C6FE70528BB5FB7@MainComputer> Message-ID: Thatw why I recomended lien in so you can her what's going on. I use it to moniter sound flower all the time. Take care. On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Sarah: > > Thanks for your post. The problem with that solution is that it changes the default soundcard across the board. Onlike the Windows version of Skype, there does not appear to be a way to change the output level in the Skype preferences. Is that correct? If so, bummer. > > Thanks all over the place. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:48 PM > Subject: Re: An Audio Question. > > >> No. Well yes. you need to set the output also to the sound card of yoru headset in order for that to work. You do thiw in system prefs or by holding down option f12 to get there or option fn 12 if you have to. >> >> Take care. >> On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks: >>> >>> I am using a cordless USB headset for the Skype program. I can get Skype to use both the mick as well as the headphones; the problem is that, the volume control on the headset controls the default Mac volume but does not alter the sound level of Skype. >>> >>> Is there a way around this? >>> >>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>> >>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6794 (20120114) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6795 (20120114) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6795 (20120114) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Sat Jan 14 19:44:26 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 14:44:26 -0500 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <4F11D098.7040604@techno-chat.net> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> <280E0E12-66D7-4E50-B2EC-862A324A2058@me.com> <4F11D098.7040604@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <87E15A01-69DE-40F3-B9F8-D7B6A03B7DBD@me.com> Hi Chris, If you've used the *lovely* native FB IOS App, you'll be familiar with some of the shortcomings of the mobile site when accessed thru Safari on the Mac. sometimes you can "like" a post, sometimes not. Sometimes you can comment, sometimes not. Sometimes notifications show up, sometimes not. Sometimes the screen refreshes properly, sometimes not. Sometimes the cursor maintains focus in a text entry field, sometimes not. If I were an FB addict, I'd probably have jumped out a window by now. . I've never tried FB on Windows, with or without a screen reader, so I can't personally compare the experience there. Cheers, Bryan On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:59 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > Thanks Bryan. I plan to use m.facebook.com and I have heard that it is displayed differently, possibly even inaccessible, on a mac. Is this really true? I'm sure I could work it out, but anyway, please advise. Thanks! > > On 14/01/2012 18:24, Bryan Jones wrote: >> Hi Chris, >> >> To expand a bit on Sarah's note, you can implement her Facebook / IE8 suggestion by doing the following: >> 1. when you're in Safari go to Safari Preferences by pressing Command+comma. >> 2. In Safari Preferences interact with the toolbar, select the"Advanced" button, stop interacting with the toolbar, navigate to the item labeled, "Show Develop Menu in Menu Bar," and make sure this checkbox is checked. This will add a menu item labeled "Develop" into the menu for both Safari and Webkit. >> 3. To set Safari to identify itself as Internet Explorer 8, go to the Develop menu / User Agent / and select Internet Explorer 8. >> >> Another option you're probably already aware of is the feature-limited but friendlier "mobile" version of FB available at m.facebook.com >> >> HTH, >> Bryan >> >> , On Jan 14, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> lol. Good luck in browsing the facebook site. If you want to do that then you have to open it using the develop ,agent menu and choosing IE8. trust me this works. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Sat Jan 14 19:50:54 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 14:50:54 -0500 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <37F06071-6448-4CB8-9BF0-149330A15782@speedpost.net> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> <280E0E12-66D7-4E50-B2EC-862A324A2058@me.com> <37F06071-6448-4CB8-9BF0-149330A15782@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <2322DE67-9E3A-4BD0-8837-1AA1E5C213C2@me.com> Hi Zack, Good point. I stepped back from Chrome over the past month or two after hitting a couple of walls, and it's time I should test the waters again. Which build of Chrome are you using, and are you using Chromevox or VO to navigate the contents of the browser window? Thanks, Bryan On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've generally had few problems browsing the Facebook site without changing the user agent. Granted, I switched from Safari to Crome for my primary browsing needs a while ago, which seems to have improved performance and stability over all. From zkline at speedpost.net Sat Jan 14 19:53:25 2012 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:53:25 -0800 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <2322DE67-9E3A-4BD0-8837-1AA1E5C213C2@me.com> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> <280E0E12-66D7-4E50-B2EC-862A324A2058@me.com> <37F06071-6448-4CB8-9BF0-149330A15782@speedpost.net> <2322DE67-9E3A-4BD0-8837-1AA1E5C213C2@me.com> Message-ID: <6EAD01E0-C795-4086-89EA-E6ABD6D27899@speedpost.net> Hi Brian, I'm currently using Google Crome 16, the stable build, with VoiceOver. CromeVox is nice in theory, but I don't like having to turn off VO to use it and lose the screen curtain among other niceties. Yours, Zack. On Jan 14, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Zack, > > Good point. I stepped back from Chrome over the past month or two after hitting a couple of walls, and it's time I should test the waters again. Which build of Chrome are you using, and are you using Chromevox or VO to navigate the contents of the browser window? > > Thanks, > Bryan > > On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >> Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've generally had few problems browsing the Facebook site without changing the user agent. Granted, I switched from Safari to Crome for my primary browsing needs a while ago, which seems to have improved performance and stability over all. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 19:58:30 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 14:58:30 -0500 Subject: how accessible is snowtape for mac? In-Reply-To: <5375980B-3875-43DD-A9D7-7F1F478E5855@gmail.com> References: <23D36E14-0AFB-4D3C-B339-8FF09A3AB0F0@gmail.com> <5375980B-3875-43DD-A9D7-7F1F478E5855@gmail.com> Message-ID: <107F9236-55B9-42DC-86CD-1F393533BA8D@gmail.com> Hi, I listen to a lot of radio, so this app will be really useful if it's accessible. Courtney On 14/01/2012, at 2:23 in the Afternoon, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Ah sounds like fun. I might give that a try, but I hardly listen to anything now a days but yeah at least the option is still there. for those of us that want it. > > Thanks. > On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm not sure about the website, but snowtape you can schedule and record radio stations for later listening. >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> On 14/01/2012, at 12:48 in the Afternoon, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> and what is snowtape? what does it do? can you give us a bit of a disciption and perhaps a website to go check it out? >>> >>> thanks. >>> On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:31 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Is buying snowtape for mac worth my money, is it even accessible with voiceover? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Courtney >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Jan 14 20:39:27 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:39:27 +0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <87E15A01-69DE-40F3-B9F8-D7B6A03B7DBD@me.com> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> <280E0E12-66D7-4E50-B2EC-862A324A2058@me.com> <4F11D098.7040604@techno-chat.net> <87E15A01-69DE-40F3-B9F8-D7B6A03B7DBD@me.com> Message-ID: <4F11E7FF.8020900@techno-chat.net> Know what you mean so what is this FB app that is available for the mac? On 14/01/2012 19:44, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Chris, > > If you've used the *lovely* native FB IOS App, you'll be familiar with some of the shortcomings of the mobile site when accessed thru Safari on the Mac. sometimes you can "like" a post, sometimes not. Sometimes you can comment, sometimes not. Sometimes notifications show up, sometimes not. Sometimes the screen refreshes properly, sometimes not. Sometimes the cursor maintains focus in a text entry field, sometimes not. If I were an FB addict, I'd probably have jumped out a window by now.. I've never tried FB on Windows, with or without a screen reader, so I can't personally compare the experience there. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:59 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Thanks Bryan. I plan to use m.facebook.com and I have heard that it is displayed differently, possibly even inaccessible, on a mac. Is this really true? I'm sure I could work it out, but anyway, please advise. Thanks! >> >> On 14/01/2012 18:24, Bryan Jones wrote: >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> To expand a bit on Sarah's note, you can implement her Facebook / IE8 suggestion by doing the following: >>> 1. when you're in Safari go to Safari Preferences by pressing Command+comma. >>> 2. In Safari Preferences interact with the toolbar, select the"Advanced" button, stop interacting with the toolbar, navigate to the item labeled, "Show Develop Menu in Menu Bar," and make sure this checkbox is checked. This will add a menu item labeled "Develop" into the menu for both Safari and Webkit. >>> 3. To set Safari to identify itself as Internet Explorer 8, go to the Develop menu / User Agent / and select Internet Explorer 8. >>> >>> Another option you're probably already aware of is the feature-limited but friendlier "mobile" version of FB available at m.facebook.com >>> >>> HTH, >>> Bryan >>> >>> , On Jan 14, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> lol. Good luck in browsing the facebook site. If you want to do that then you have to open it using the develop ,agent menu and choosing IE8. trust me this works. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From rattail4 at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 20:46:30 2012 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:46:30 -0500 Subject: Switching to a Mac In-Reply-To: <4F11D0E6.40008@techno-chat.net> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><0CEDA896E5214CA8B0F36228EEE4EADD@MQUAD> <4F11D0E6.40008@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <609F8639D9EE4C29941D8F09058C5BD2@MQUAD> If you planned to go with anexternal optical drive keep in mind it does need USB which limits the ports you do have available at any given time. you may only need it for a short time but that's one port used up -------------------------------------------------- From: "chris hallsworth" Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 14:00 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac > True, haven't really thought about needing an optical drive. I do get the > occasional music CD but I purchase most things online via electronic > download then burn them to CD/DVD at a later date. So yes, an optical > drive would be nice but if not I could always purchase an external one. > > On 14/01/2012 17:49, Mike Welty wrote: >> The Mac can do all you want with flying colors, it comes down to what >> exactly you want in a Mac. you said a laptop so it then comes down to if >> you want an optical drive or not really. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "chris hallsworth" >> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:15 >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Subject: Switching to a mac >> >>> Hello all. >>> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >>> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >>> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >>> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >>> 2. Manage my e-mail. >>> 3. Listen to and manage music. >>> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >>> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >>> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >>> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >>> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >>> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >>> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >>> no rush necessary. >>> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since >>> 1997. It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod >>> Touch. >>> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much >>> appreciated. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 21:00:21 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:00:21 -0500 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <009001ccd2ff$8822feb0$9868fc10$@gmail.com> Which laptop/notebook are you considering ? Mac Book Pro or Mac Book Air? Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:15 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Switching to a mac Hello all. Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. 2. Manage my e-mail. 3. Listen to and manage music. 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. I am looking into a laptop style mac. 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with no rush necessary. Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 1997. It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much appreciated. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Jan 14 21:41:20 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:41:20 +0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <009001ccd2ff$8822feb0$9868fc10$@gmail.com> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <009001ccd2ff$8822feb0$9868fc10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F11F680.8070400@techno-chat.net> Hmmm not sure yet but either option sounds good. On 14/01/2012 21:00, Bubba wrote: > Which laptop/notebook are you considering ? Mac Book Pro or Mac Book Air? > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:15 PM > To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility > Subject: Switching to a mac > > Hello all. > Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and it's > time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am considering > switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: > 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. > 2. Manage my e-mail. > 3. Listen to and manage music. > 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. > 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, with > hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. > I am looking into a laptop style mac. > 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, either > via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. > I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with no > rush necessary. > Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 1997. > It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. > Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much appreciated. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Jan 14 21:42:22 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:42:22 +0000 Subject: Switching to a Mac In-Reply-To: <609F8639D9EE4C29941D8F09058C5BD2@MQUAD> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><0CEDA896E5214CA8B0F36228EEE4EADD@MQUAD> <4F11D0E6.40008@techno-chat.net> <609F8639D9EE4C29941D8F09058C5BD2@MQUAD> Message-ID: <4F11F6BE.2000405@techno-chat.net> Oh, very true. Well it looks like a Macbook pro then, as I have several USB devices, like my iPhone/iPod USB cable, external drive, portable speakers, some USB cables that specifically charge devices, and so on. On 14/01/2012 20:46, Mike Welty wrote: > If you planned to go with anexternal optical drive keep in mind it does > need USB which limits the ports you do have available at any given time. > you may only need it for a short time but that's one port used up > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "chris hallsworth" > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 14:00 > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac > >> True, haven't really thought about needing an optical drive. I do get >> the occasional music CD but I purchase most things online via >> electronic download then burn them to CD/DVD at a later date. So yes, >> an optical drive would be nice but if not I could always purchase an >> external one. >> >> On 14/01/2012 17:49, Mike Welty wrote: >>> The Mac can do all you want with flying colors, it comes down to what >>> exactly you want in a Mac. you said a laptop so it then comes down to if >>> you want an optical drive or not really. >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "chris hallsworth" >>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:15 >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Subject: Switching to a mac >>> >>>> Hello all. >>>> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >>>> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >>>> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >>>> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >>>> 2. Manage my e-mail. >>>> 3. Listen to and manage music. >>>> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >>>> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >>>> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >>>> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >>>> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >>>> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >>>> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >>>> no rush necessary. >>>> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since >>>> 1997. It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod >>>> Touch. >>>> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much >>>> appreciated. >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Sat Jan 14 22:15:56 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:15:56 +0000 Subject: Mail box question Message-ID: <77950AC8-356C-473F-990A-EBCA8DAE36CF@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I would appreciate any tips on how to handle the following situation using Apple Mail on the latest level of Mac OS 10.7. My wife and I each have two Gmail accounts set up as imap one for personal Email and the other for business Email. We each have a computer and a smart phone. I log on much more often than my wife does and so I monitor her Email so that I can tell her if anything urgent or interesting has arrived. Using imap means that I can monitor my mail on my iPhone and immediately delete much of it leaving the rest to be answered using my iMac where it is much easier to type. As I am using imap the items I have deleted from my iPhone do not then also appear on my iMac. This is all fine and works the way I want it to. The problem arises with my wife's Email. I just want to look at this and not delete any of it leaving it all to my wife to decide what to do with it. So all my wife's Email has to stay in my inbox until she gets round to handling it. What I would like to do is to have separate Email inboxes for me and my wife on Apple mail. I would like my inbox to include both my business and private Email accounts so that I can concurrently look at them both while keeping them entirely separated from my wife's Email. Is this possible and if so how do I set it up? If this is not possible could I look at my wife's imap Gmail using pop3 protocol with delete set to never while my wife continues to use imap protocol for the same accounts. I hope the above is not too confusing! Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 22:45:19 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:45:19 -0600 Subject: Mail box question In-Reply-To: <77950AC8-356C-473F-990A-EBCA8DAE36CF@hopewell.org.uk> References: <77950AC8-356C-473F-990A-EBCA8DAE36CF@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Why doesn't she have a separate profile in the computer itself? That's what my wife and I have always done, then she can do her own thing in her profile, and I can mine. Then she can set up her mail in her profile and you won't have to deal with it at all, she can just do command option shift q and log out of your's and log into her's you can still set it to default log into your profile at boot up if you wish or just come up on the log in screen then whoever is using the machine at the time can simply log into their profile from that point. Just set it up in accounts in system preferences. You can also create a mailbox on your mac and then creat a rule that says any mail to her address goes into that box, then she can deal with it in her own time if you guys don't want to set up separate profile. However, after initial set up of the rule it will ask if you want to apply the new rule to any open mailboxes. Tell it no. Then close mail Then re open it from that point on it should send any new messages to that box. If you tell it yes in that dialog it might grab a lot or all of your mail in the open inbox and move it over there, thus a bunco of your mail will go in there. You upon re opening will have to move her messages that are already in your main inbox over to her box, but while setting on a message just do v o shift m and select the box in the move mail to sub menu. Once that's been done once, you can just do command option t on any other messages of her's in the inbox and move them over there On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I would appreciate any tips on how to handle the following situation using Apple Mail on the latest level of Mac OS 10.7. > > My wife and I each have two Gmail accounts set up as imap one for personal Email and the other for business Email. We each have a computer and a smart phone. I log on much more often than my wife does and so I monitor her Email so that I can tell her if anything urgent or interesting has arrived. > > Using imap means that I can monitor my mail on my iPhone and immediately delete much of it leaving the rest to be answered using my iMac where it is much easier to type. As I am using imap the items I have deleted from my iPhone do not then also appear on my iMac. This is all fine and works the way I want it to. > > The problem arises with my wife's Email. I just want to look at this and not delete any of it leaving it all to my wife to decide what to do with it. So all my wife's Email has to stay in my inbox until she gets round to handling it. > > What I would like to do is to have separate Email inboxes for me and my wife on Apple mail. I would like my inbox to include both my business and private Email accounts so that I can concurrently look at them both while keeping them entirely separated from my wife's Email. > > Is this possible and if so how do I set it up? If this is not possible could I look at my wife's imap Gmail using pop3 protocol with delete set to never while my wife continues to use imap protocol for the same accounts. > > I hope the above is not too confusing! > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sat Jan 14 23:18:24 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 23:18:24 -0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the things you mention. I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF I use the Mac. I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself wanting to use column view . Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning assistant. A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Switching to a mac Hello all. Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. 2. Manage my e-mail. 3. Listen to and manage music. 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. I am looking into a laptop style mac. 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with no rush necessary. Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 1997. It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much appreciated. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From opensesame at me.com Sat Jan 14 23:47:17 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:47:17 -0500 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <4F11E7FF.8020900@techno-chat.net> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> <280E0E12-66D7-4E50-B2EC-862A324A2058@me.com> <4F11D098.7040604@techno-chat.net> <87E15A01-69DE-40F3-B9F8-D7B6A03B7DBD@me.com> <4F11E7FF.8020900@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Hi Chris, That's the FB App for IOS devices such as the iPhone, as I think you mentioned owning an iPhone or other i-Device. I'm not sure if there's an actual FB Application for the Mac OS. If you've not tried the official FB IOS App, it can be found at the following link. Note that this is for the US App store and you'll need to modify the country code in the URL if you live elsewhere: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/facebook/id284882215?mt=8 Cheers, Bryan On Jan 14, 2012, at 3:39 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > Know what you mean so what is this FB app that is available for the mac? > > On 14/01/2012 19:44, Bryan Jones wrote: >> Hi Chris, >> >> If you've used the *lovely* native FB IOS App, you'll be familiar with some of the shortcomings of the mobile site when accessed thru Safari on the Mac. sometimes you can "like" a post, sometimes not. Sometimes you can comment, sometimes not. Sometimes notifications show up, sometimes not. Sometimes the screen refreshes properly, sometimes not. Sometimes the cursor maintains focus in a text entry field, sometimes not. If I were an FB addict, I'd probably have jumped out a window by now.. I've never tried FB on Windows, with or without a screen reader, so I can't personally compare the experience there. From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Jan 15 00:27:45 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 00:27:45 +0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <92F5FF08-40BB-4590-B6E2-76FE5ACFACBB@gmail.com> <280E0E12-66D7-4E50-B2EC-862A324A2058@me.com> <4F11D098.7040604@techno-chat.net> <87E15A01-69DE-40F3-B9F8-D7B6A03B7DBD@me.com> <4F11E7FF.8020900@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <4F121D81.3080804@techno-chat.net> Oh, yes I have the FB app already. Sorry for any confusion. I thought through this list there was an FB app for the mac. On 14/01/2012 23:47, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Chris, > > That's the FB App for IOS devices such as the iPhone, as I think you mentioned owning an iPhone or other i-Device. I'm not sure if there's an actual FB Application for the Mac OS. If you've not tried the official FB IOS App, it can be found at the following link. Note that this is for the US App store and you'll need to modify the country code in the URL if you live elsewhere: > > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/facebook/id284882215?mt=8 > > Cheers, > Bryan > > On Jan 14, 2012, at 3:39 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Know what you mean so what is this FB app that is available for the mac? >> >> On 14/01/2012 19:44, Bryan Jones wrote: >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> If you've used the *lovely* native FB IOS App, you'll be familiar with some of the shortcomings of the mobile site when accessed thru Safari on the Mac. sometimes you can "like" a post, sometimes not. Sometimes you can comment, sometimes not. Sometimes notifications show up, sometimes not. Sometimes the screen refreshes properly, sometimes not. Sometimes the cursor maintains focus in a text entry field, sometimes not. If I were an FB addict, I'd probably have jumped out a window by now.. I've never tried FB on Windows, with or without a screen reader, so I can't personally compare the experience there. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Jan 15 00:29:08 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 00:29:08 +0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> Message-ID: <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: > I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the things > you mention. > > I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that I > therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I switch > very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF I use the > Mac. > I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I would > not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including the capacity > to install and set up Windows without sighted help. > Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. There are > differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself wanting to use column > view . > Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my experience but > again it is completely different from Windows and you will need to learn > different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. > The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of > information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but it > tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows screen > readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning assistant. > A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth > Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 > To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility > Subject: Switching to a mac > > Hello all. > Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and it's > time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am considering > switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: > 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. > 2. Manage my e-mail. > 3. Listen to and manage music. > 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. > 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, with > hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. > I am looking into a laptop style mac. > 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, either > via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. > I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with no > rush necessary. > Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 1997. > It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. > Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much appreciated. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sun Jan 15 01:24:49 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:24:49 +1100 Subject: zombies run! iphone game In-Reply-To: <1839EE58-A992-47A3-BC8D-1D528AF9CD1D@gmail.com> References: <76B57509-D888-4FD2-A279-B8E94530D420@gmail.com> <078487C2-AE87-4275-A192-5F97EC562075@bluebottle.com> <1839EE58-A992-47A3-BC8D-1D528AF9CD1D@gmail.com> Message-ID: in feb On 15/01/2012, at 1:43 AM, william lomas wrote: > when is it meant be out? > pre-ordering doesn't mean we get it when they say we do > > On Jan 14, 2012, at 2:33 PM, krystal watson wrote: > >> me to smiles >> On 09/01/2012, at 4:52 AM, Orin wrote: >> >>> I'm gonna try it anyway regardless. >>> Orin >>> orin8722 at gmail.com >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks >>> Skype: orin1112 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 8, 2012, at 11:47 AM, william lomas wrote: >>> >>>> why doesn't voiceover work, what support does it need? >>>> yet again we have to wait for support >>>> >>>> On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:16 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >>>> >>>>> What a cool idea. However, I've been in touch with the developers, and while they do intend to implement VoiceOver support, they will not have it ready by the time they launch. They said that they would keep me updated though, so when I know I'll pass along. >>>>> >>>>> TC :) >>>>> J >>>>> You can contact me in the following ways: >>>>> E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net >>>>> MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com >>>>> Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you >>>>> >>>>> On 8 Jan 2012, at 10:55, william lomas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFqZtKvya0 >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 01:22:23 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:22:23 -0800 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net> <913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: It works pretty well. I use Skim myself but both work and work good. On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:29 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. > > On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: >> I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the things >> you mention. >> >> I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that I >> therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I switch >> very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF I use the >> Mac. >> I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I would >> not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including the capacity >> to install and set up Windows without sighted help. >> Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. There are >> differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself wanting to use column >> view . >> Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my experience but >> again it is completely different from Windows and you will need to learn >> different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. >> The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of >> information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but it >> tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows screen >> readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning assistant. >> A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. >> >> David Griffith >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >> Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 >> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Switching to a mac >> >> Hello all. >> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and it's >> time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am considering >> switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >> 2. Manage my e-mail. >> 3. Listen to and manage music. >> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, with >> hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, either >> via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with no >> rush necessary. >> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 1997. >> It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. >> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much appreciated. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From orin8722 at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 03:37:13 2012 From: orin8722 at gmail.com (Orin) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:37:13 -0500 Subject: how accessible is snowtape for mac? In-Reply-To: <107F9236-55B9-42DC-86CD-1F393533BA8D@gmail.com> References: <23D36E14-0AFB-4D3C-B339-8FF09A3AB0F0@gmail.com> <5375980B-3875-43DD-A9D7-7F1F478E5855@gmail.com> <107F9236-55B9-42DC-86CD-1F393533BA8D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <122835BA-8BDC-45CE-9260-630EFD9B2362@gmail.com> Hi, I've been bugging the developer before lion support to get this app accessible. Finally when lion support came, the app was more accessible than it was, but it's still not complete. All I can do is look at the top stations, listen and search. Not even sure if I can search even, I forgot. After lots of inconsistencies, I just gave up with trying with this developer. He didn't put much effort into it, just enough to make me say "Oh, he actually made it semi-accessible." If anyone can help me out with this, either by encouraging @vimedio on Twitter, emailing them it's on the site, etc. I think we have to work together with this dev. Orin orin8722 at gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jan 14, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I listen to a lot of radio, so this app will be really useful if it's accessible. > Courtney > On 14/01/2012, at 2:23 in the Afternoon, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ah sounds like fun. I might give that a try, but I hardly listen to anything now a days but yeah at least the option is still there. for those of us that want it. >> >> Thanks. >> On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I'm not sure about the website, but snowtape you can schedule and record radio stations for later listening. >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney >>> On 14/01/2012, at 12:48 in the Afternoon, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> and what is snowtape? what does it do? can you give us a bit of a disciption and perhaps a website to go check it out? >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:31 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Is buying snowtape for mac worth my money, is it even accessible with voiceover? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Courtney >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 07:54:57 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 02:54:57 -0500 Subject: Streaming media! Message-ID: <000f01ccd35a$fa91d380$efb57a80$@gmail.com> This is for those that like to listen to streaming media on their computers or IOS device. The first link is to the web site of this streaming radio that plays lots of Old shows on it. From here you can listen to it from your computer. See link below. http://20thcenturyradio.com/ Now for those that like to listen on your IOS device you can either use your internet browser on your IOS device or download this app called Radio and it has lots of content on it and is totally accessible. It has other features that I don't use but they are there like Facebook and tweeter. It also has the radio station in the link above called 20th Century radio and is very nice to listen to from the app. The app is called Radio! See link to it below. Enjoy all! http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/radio/id294952511?mt=8 Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 10:22:54 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:22:54 +1100 Subject: How to add to new contacts to the address book Message-ID: <-8073091652579540158@unknownmsgid> Can someone please tell me how I can add a new contact to my address book on my macbook pro in mail. Margaret Sent from my iPhone From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 11:18:08 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 05:18:08 -0600 Subject: How to add to new contacts to the address book In-Reply-To: <-8073091652579540158@unknownmsgid> References: <-8073091652579540158@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <1B6E518E-5C7A-4E20-A77F-9B4AE05C74D7@gmail.com> If you're setting on the e-mail itself from the person, then command shift y it's also in the apple menu under message I believe. If you don't have an existing e-mail, try setting up a new message, and typing the e-mail in the to field, then try the command shift y If that doesn't work then do control click and see if there's a function to copy to address book. Doing command shift y will add the address into your e-mail's address panel don't know if it will actualy put it in the main address book. Think it will, but haven't actually played with the address book much since getting the new computer, have played with Tiger so long that I learned to just live without it because in Tiger the address book was a nightmare. But those are some options for you. On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:22 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > Can someone please tell me how I can add a new contact to my address > book on my macbook pro in mail. > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Jan 15 11:49:39 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:49:39 +0000 Subject: Connect to wifi on mac Message-ID: <4F12BD53.1060809@techno-chat.net> Hello all. As you know, I am researching the possibility of getting a mac in the future. This may not happen until a few months or more, but still, I want to ask a question. How would I go about connecting to wifi networks? I was able to connect to my Sky wifi with no problems on both the iPhone and iPod Touch, once I changed the WPA key anyway, but that was down to user error. Is it a similar technique on the mac? If for some reason I cannot connect to my wifi network, can I just plug the ethernet cable into the appropriate port and it will just connect? Please advise. Thanks! From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sun Jan 15 13:00:52 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:00:52 -0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8> I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading. There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle. The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these. David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Switching to a mac So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: > I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the > things you mention. > > I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that > I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I > switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF > I use the Mac. > I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I > would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including > the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. > Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. > There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself > wanting to use column view . > Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my > experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you > will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. > The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of > information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but > it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows > screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning assistant. > A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris > hallsworth > Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 > To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility > Subject: Switching to a mac > > Hello all. > Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and > it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am > considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: > 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. > 2. Manage my e-mail. > 3. Listen to and manage music. > 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. > 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, > with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. > I am looking into a laptop style mac. > 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, > either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. > I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with > no rush necessary. > Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 1997. > It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. > Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much appreciated. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sun Jan 15 13:35:20 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:35:20 -0000 Subject: Connect to wifi on mac In-Reply-To: <4F12BD53.1060809@techno-chat.net> References: <4F12BD53.1060809@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <75E198D57B3842E2835744D57C2690A9@acer4d025c48b8> I plugged a cable into my Ethernet port and it just connected. Before I used the cable a Wi Fi wizard came up asking for my password and again this was pretty seamless. Not everything on the Mac is straightforward but some things are a joy. I plugged in my printer and the Mac instantly recognised it and asked me if I wanted to use it - I clicked yes and that all that was needed. If you want a backup solution just plug in an external drive, the Mac will ask you if you want it to be a time machine backup, say yes and that pretty much it. To back up your windows images just include the VM Fusion virtual machine file in any backup. No more worrying about imaging solutions. Use the free and easy Carbon Copy cloner to create a complete bootable image of your Mac on an external drive. The side affect of this is that you can effectively using this method have a bootable solution for Windows via Fusion on a USB drive. Using Apple Mail is pretty easy and it is my preferred mail client. I think all I needed to do was give my email address and password and the Mac intelligently inserted all the other settings for me. I use Mail in modern view . The only downside of this is that for some reason apple has forgotten to enable letter navigation when mailed is sorted by sender in modern view. However, If you switch to classic view then letter based sorting is available. That is start typing the name of the sender and you will jump there. Command comma will bring up the view preferences for this. Finally I would recommend not spending money on word processors unless you are absolutely convinced you need one. Text Edit is a fully fledged word processor, despite its name, and Beam is a good free alternative. I am tending to standardise all my documents as RTF now which are usable pretty much on all platforms. Regards David Griffith. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 15 January 2012 11:50 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Connect to wifi on mac Hello all. As you know, I am researching the possibility of getting a mac in the future. This may not happen until a few months or more, but still, I want to ask a question. How would I go about connecting to wifi networks? I was able to connect to my Sky wifi with no problems on both the iPhone and iPod Touch, once I changed the WPA key anyway, but that was down to user error. Is it a similar technique on the mac? If for some reason I cannot connect to my wifi network, can I just plug the ethernet cable into the appropriate port and it will just connect? Please advise. Thanks! <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From venables134 at btinternet.com Sun Jan 15 15:09:02 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:09:02 +0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> <5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8> Message-ID: <300A8822-CAD9-4629-8A40-3768BD851A55@btinternet.com> Chris a useful resource that I recommend checking out is www.macfortheblind.com Hopefully you should enjoy that site. I love my Mac and I would love to get an iPhone but the voices i just don't simply understand them and the touch screen doesn't really appeal to me. The only thing I wish I could have on the Mac and IOS is elquance. If I had this I wouldn't go back to windows and before anyone asks this is not a blindness desire but is more needed for my hearing impairment. So if that day comes around I will be jumping around like crazy. So for now I use both platforms because of the above situation I have. Good luck with your research. Oh and by the way I brought a 13 inch Mac Book Pro. Just as a side note when I went the Apple store in blue water I noticed that the Mac Book Air has two USB ports which is the same as the Mac Book Pro. so all you need to think about is do you want a CD-ROM drive or not. Obviously I chose that but I don't know how much they are going to be around in Apple's line up of computers. Just so you know that. Thanks Daniel On 15 Jan 2012, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote: > I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been > easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading. > There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real > pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of > course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle. > The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based > documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these. > > David Griffith > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth > Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Switching to a mac > > So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? > I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it > does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. > > On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: >> I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the >> things you mention. >> >> I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that >> I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I >> switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF >> I use the Mac. >> I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I >> would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including >> the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. >> Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. >> There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself >> wanting to use column view . >> Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my >> experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you >> will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. >> The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of >> information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but >> it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows >> screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning > assistant. >> A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. >> >> David Griffith >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris >> hallsworth >> Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 >> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Switching to a mac >> >> Hello all. >> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >> 2. Manage my e-mail. >> 3. Listen to and manage music. >> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >> no rush necessary. >> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since > 1997. >> It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. >> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much > appreciated. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 15:13:42 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:13:42 -0500 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> <5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8> Message-ID: <006301ccd398$452e6560$cf8b3020$@gmail.com> well, not trying to start an argument but will say to me PDF files on the Windows side is very easy to use to read files and convert files from a picture file to text with it OCR built in. I would think it would be the same for the Mac if Vo support Adobe Reader ! But don't know since Apple does not like Adobe Flash they might be the same with all Adobe products? Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:01 AM To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: Switching to a mac I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading. There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle. The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these. David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Switching to a mac So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: > I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the > things you mention. > > I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that > I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I > switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF > I use the Mac. > I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I > would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including > the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. > Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. > There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself > wanting to use column view . > Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my > experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you > will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. > The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of > information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but > it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows > screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning assistant. > A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris > hallsworth > Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 > To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility > Subject: Switching to a mac > > Hello all. > Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and > it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am > considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: > 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. > 2. Manage my e-mail. > 3. Listen to and manage music. > 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. > 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, > with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. > I am looking into a laptop style mac. > 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, > either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. > I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with > no rush necessary. > Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since 1997. > It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. > Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much appreciated. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Jan 15 17:15:31 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:15:31 +0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <300A8822-CAD9-4629-8A40-3768BD851A55@btinternet.com> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> <5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8> <300A8822-CAD9-4629-8A40-3768BD851A55@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <4F1309B3.8070401@techno-chat.net> Interesting Daniel, I am hearing impaired as well and it appears I can understand Alex very well. Of course speech synthesis is very subjective, so what may suit one may not necessarily suit the other. On 15/01/2012 15:09, Daniel McGee wrote: > Chris a useful resource that I recommend checking out is > www.macfortheblind.com > > Hopefully you should enjoy that site. > I love my Mac and I would love to get an iPhone but the voices i just don't simply understand them and the touch screen doesn't really appeal to me. > The only thing I wish I could have on the Mac and IOS is elquance. If I had this I wouldn't go back to windows and before anyone asks this is not a blindness desire but is more needed for my hearing impairment. So if that day comes around I will be jumping around like crazy. So for now I use both platforms because of the above situation I have. > > Good luck with your research. Oh and by the way I brought a 13 inch Mac Book Pro. > Just as a side note when I went the Apple store in blue water I noticed that the Mac Book Air has two USB ports which is the same as the Mac Book Pro. so all you need to think about is do you want a CD-ROM drive or not. Obviously I chose that but I don't know how much they are going to be around in Apple's line up of computers. Just so you know that. > > Thanks > > Daniel > On 15 Jan 2012, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote: > >> I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been >> easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading. >> There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real >> pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of >> course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle. >> The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based >> documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these. >> >> David Griffith >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >> Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29 >> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Switching to a mac >> >> So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? >> I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it >> does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. >> >> On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: >>> I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the >>> things you mention. >>> >>> I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that >>> I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I >>> switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF >>> I use the Mac. >>> I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I >>> would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including >>> the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. >>> Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. >>> There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself >>> wanting to use column view . >>> Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my >>> experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you >>> will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. >>> The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of >>> information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but >>> it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows >>> screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning >> assistant. >>> A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. >>> >>> David Griffith >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris >>> hallsworth >>> Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 >>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Switching to a mac >>> >>> Hello all. >>> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >>> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >>> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >>> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >>> 2. Manage my e-mail. >>> 3. Listen to and manage music. >>> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >>> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >>> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >>> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >>> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >>> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >>> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >>> no rush necessary. >>> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since >> 1997. >>> It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. >>> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much >> appreciated. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 18:18:34 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:18:34 -0800 Subject: How to add to new contacts to the address book In-Reply-To: <-8073091652579540158@unknownmsgid> References: <-8073091652579540158@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <4DB4E50E-E095-41E3-938B-4A9434CEF5C6@gmail.com> You can either hit cmd y or control click either from or 2 in the headers section and click add to address book. I can't remember which one brings up the dialogue from which you can edit but both methods work. On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:22 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > Can someone please tell me how I can add a new contact to my address > book on my macbook pro in mail. > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From 1smartdog at cox.net Sun Jan 15 18:39:59 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:39:59 -0600 Subject: Was: Re: How to add to new contacts to the address book; Now: Control Click References: <-8073091652579540158@unknownmsgid> <4DB4E50E-E095-41E3-938B-4A9434CEF5C6@gmail.com> Message-ID: I guess I'm brain dead but I can't figure out how to click the mouse on anything. Will someone have mercy on me and enlighten me? Thanks, Karen From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 20:20:54 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:20:54 -0800 Subject: Was: Re: How to add to new contacts to the address book; Now: Control Click In-Reply-To: References: <-8073091652579540158@unknownmsgid> <4DB4E50E-E095-41E3-938B-4A9434CEF5C6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <433FB854-D80C-445A-9EF3-63AE91D7F87D@gmail.com> Just vo cmd f5 to rout the mouse to where the vo curser is and then control and click the bottom of the mouse pad or if you have a mouse control and click the mouse button. On Jan 15, 2012, at 10:39 AM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > I guess I'm brain dead but I can't figure out how to click the mouse on anything. Will someone have mercy on me and enlighten me? > > Thanks, > Karen > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From venables134 at btinternet.com Sun Jan 15 20:28:36 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:28:36 +0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <4F1309B3.8070401@techno-chat.net> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> <5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8> <300A8822-CAD9-4629-8A40-3768BD851A55@btinternet.com> <4F1309B3.8070401@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <3BB8FACA-0AC8-4236-A061-FF95628EC7F3@btinternet.com> Indeed Chris, for the most part I find Alex nice to listen to but now and then I get a word that he doesn't pronounce promptly. Where as eloquence just seems more natural sounding in saying words correctly. Chris I am curious since you have and I device which voice do you use for it. See when I got one a couple of years ago I simply didn't understand and still possibly won't the nuance english voices which frustrates me because I really want to use an I device but can't because of this voice problem. Daniel On 15 Jan 2012, at 17:15, chris hallsworth wrote: > Interesting Daniel, I am hearing impaired as well and it appears I can understand Alex very well. Of course speech synthesis is very subjective, so what may suit one may not necessarily suit the other. > > On 15/01/2012 15:09, Daniel McGee wrote: >> Chris a useful resource that I recommend checking out is >> www.macfortheblind.com >> >> Hopefully you should enjoy that site. >> I love my Mac and I would love to get an iPhone but the voices i just don't simply understand them and the touch screen doesn't really appeal to me. >> The only thing I wish I could have on the Mac and IOS is elquance. If I had this I wouldn't go back to windows and before anyone asks this is not a blindness desire but is more needed for my hearing impairment. So if that day comes around I will be jumping around like crazy. So for now I use both platforms because of the above situation I have. >> >> Good luck with your research. Oh and by the way I brought a 13 inch Mac Book Pro. >> Just as a side note when I went the Apple store in blue water I noticed that the Mac Book Air has two USB ports which is the same as the Mac Book Pro. so all you need to think about is do you want a CD-ROM drive or not. Obviously I chose that but I don't know how much they are going to be around in Apple's line up of computers. Just so you know that. >> >> Thanks >> >> Daniel >> On 15 Jan 2012, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote: >> >>> I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been >>> easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading. >>> There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real >>> pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of >>> course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle. >>> The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based >>> documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these. >>> >>> David Griffith >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >>> Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29 >>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: Switching to a mac >>> >>> So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? >>> I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it >>> does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. >>> >>> On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: >>>> I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the >>>> things you mention. >>>> >>>> I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that >>>> I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I >>>> switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF >>>> I use the Mac. >>>> I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I >>>> would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including >>>> the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. >>>> Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. >>>> There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself >>>> wanting to use column view . >>>> Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my >>>> experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you >>>> will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. >>>> The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of >>>> information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but >>>> it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows >>>> screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning >>> assistant. >>>> A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. >>>> >>>> David Griffith >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris >>>> hallsworth >>>> Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 >>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Switching to a mac >>>> >>>> Hello all. >>>> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >>>> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >>>> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >>>> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >>>> 2. Manage my e-mail. >>>> 3. Listen to and manage music. >>>> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >>>> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >>>> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >>>> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >>>> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >>>> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >>>> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >>>> no rush necessary. >>>> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since >>> 1997. >>>> It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. >>>> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much >>> appreciated. >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at >>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 20:33:40 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:33:40 +0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <3BB8FACA-0AC8-4236-A061-FF95628EC7F3@btinternet.com> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> <5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8> <300A8822-CAD9-4629-8A40-3768BD851A55@btinternet.com> <4F1309B3.8070401@techno-chat.net> <3BB8FACA-0AC8-4236-A061-FF95628EC7F3@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <25C8C67D-13C3-4828-B65E-4D7B25A1364A@gmail.com> you get the high quality voices now in IOS On Jan 15, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > Indeed Chris, for the most part I find Alex nice to listen to but now and then I get a word that he doesn't pronounce promptly. Where as eloquence just seems more natural sounding in saying words correctly. > Chris I am curious since you have and I device which voice do you use for it. See when I got one a couple of years ago I simply didn't understand and still possibly won't the nuance english voices which frustrates me because I really want to use an I device but can't because of this voice problem. > > Daniel > On 15 Jan 2012, at 17:15, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Interesting Daniel, I am hearing impaired as well and it appears I can understand Alex very well. Of course speech synthesis is very subjective, so what may suit one may not necessarily suit the other. >> >> On 15/01/2012 15:09, Daniel McGee wrote: >>> Chris a useful resource that I recommend checking out is >>> www.macfortheblind.com >>> >>> Hopefully you should enjoy that site. >>> I love my Mac and I would love to get an iPhone but the voices i just don't simply understand them and the touch screen doesn't really appeal to me. >>> The only thing I wish I could have on the Mac and IOS is elquance. If I had this I wouldn't go back to windows and before anyone asks this is not a blindness desire but is more needed for my hearing impairment. So if that day comes around I will be jumping around like crazy. So for now I use both platforms because of the above situation I have. >>> >>> Good luck with your research. Oh and by the way I brought a 13 inch Mac Book Pro. >>> Just as a side note when I went the Apple store in blue water I noticed that the Mac Book Air has two USB ports which is the same as the Mac Book Pro. so all you need to think about is do you want a CD-ROM drive or not. Obviously I chose that but I don't know how much they are going to be around in Apple's line up of computers. Just so you know that. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Daniel >>> On 15 Jan 2012, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote: >>> >>>> I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been >>>> easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading. >>>> There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real >>>> pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of >>>> course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle. >>>> The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based >>>> documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these. >>>> >>>> David Griffith >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >>>> Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29 >>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a mac >>>> >>>> So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? >>>> I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it >>>> does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. >>>> >>>> On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: >>>>> I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the >>>>> things you mention. >>>>> >>>>> I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that >>>>> I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I >>>>> switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF >>>>> I use the Mac. >>>>> I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I >>>>> would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including >>>>> the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. >>>>> Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. >>>>> There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself >>>>> wanting to use column view . >>>>> Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my >>>>> experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you >>>>> will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. >>>>> The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of >>>>> information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but >>>>> it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows >>>>> screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning >>>> assistant. >>>>> A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. >>>>> >>>>> David Griffith >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris >>>>> hallsworth >>>>> Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 >>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Switching to a mac >>>>> >>>>> Hello all. >>>>> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >>>>> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >>>>> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >>>>> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >>>>> 2. Manage my e-mail. >>>>> 3. Listen to and manage music. >>>>> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >>>>> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >>>>> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >>>>> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >>>>> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >>>>> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >>>>> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >>>>> no rush necessary. >>>>> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since >>>> 1997. >>>>> It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. >>>>> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much >>>> appreciated. >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at >>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 20:38:14 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:38:14 -0800 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <25C8C67D-13C3-4828-B65E-4D7B25A1364A@gmail.com> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> <5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8> <300A8822-CAD9-4629-8A40-3768BD851A55@btinternet.com> <4F1309B3.8070401@techno-chat.net> <3BB8FACA-0AC8-4236-A061-FF95628EC7F3@btinternet.com> <25C8C67D-13C3-4828-B65E-4D7B25A1364A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9F44C720-6563-48D0-BBAF-1DA4434EE1F8@gmail.com> Yeah you do. I would give the hq voices a try in the mac side of things. I wish there were a way to uninstall the hq voices you don't use though. Take care. On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:33 PM, william lomas wrote: > you get the high quality voices now in IOS > > On Jan 15, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > >> Indeed Chris, for the most part I find Alex nice to listen to but now and then I get a word that he doesn't pronounce promptly. Where as eloquence just seems more natural sounding in saying words correctly. >> Chris I am curious since you have and I device which voice do you use for it. See when I got one a couple of years ago I simply didn't understand and still possibly won't the nuance english voices which frustrates me because I really want to use an I device but can't because of this voice problem. >> >> Daniel >> On 15 Jan 2012, at 17:15, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >>> Interesting Daniel, I am hearing impaired as well and it appears I can understand Alex very well. Of course speech synthesis is very subjective, so what may suit one may not necessarily suit the other. >>> >>> On 15/01/2012 15:09, Daniel McGee wrote: >>>> Chris a useful resource that I recommend checking out is >>>> www.macfortheblind.com >>>> >>>> Hopefully you should enjoy that site. >>>> I love my Mac and I would love to get an iPhone but the voices i just don't simply understand them and the touch screen doesn't really appeal to me. >>>> The only thing I wish I could have on the Mac and IOS is elquance. If I had this I wouldn't go back to windows and before anyone asks this is not a blindness desire but is more needed for my hearing impairment. So if that day comes around I will be jumping around like crazy. So for now I use both platforms because of the above situation I have. >>>> >>>> Good luck with your research. Oh and by the way I brought a 13 inch Mac Book Pro. >>>> Just as a side note when I went the Apple store in blue water I noticed that the Mac Book Air has two USB ports which is the same as the Mac Book Pro. so all you need to think about is do you want a CD-ROM drive or not. Obviously I chose that but I don't know how much they are going to be around in Apple's line up of computers. Just so you know that. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> On 15 Jan 2012, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been >>>>> easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading. >>>>> There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real >>>>> pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of >>>>> course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle. >>>>> The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based >>>>> documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these. >>>>> >>>>> David Griffith >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >>>>> Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29 >>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a mac >>>>> >>>>> So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? >>>>> I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it >>>>> does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. >>>>> >>>>> On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: >>>>>> I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the >>>>>> things you mention. >>>>>> >>>>>> I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that >>>>>> I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I >>>>>> switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF >>>>>> I use the Mac. >>>>>> I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I >>>>>> would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including >>>>>> the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. >>>>>> Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. >>>>>> There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself >>>>>> wanting to use column view . >>>>>> Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my >>>>>> experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you >>>>>> will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. >>>>>> The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of >>>>>> information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but >>>>>> it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows >>>>>> screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning >>>>> assistant. >>>>>> A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. >>>>>> >>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris >>>>>> hallsworth >>>>>> Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 >>>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>>> Subject: Switching to a mac >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all. >>>>>> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >>>>>> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >>>>>> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >>>>>> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >>>>>> 2. Manage my e-mail. >>>>>> 3. Listen to and manage music. >>>>>> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >>>>>> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >>>>>> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >>>>>> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >>>>>> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >>>>>> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >>>>>> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >>>>>> no rush necessary. >>>>>> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since >>>>> 1997. >>>>>> It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. >>>>>> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much >>>>> appreciated. >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>> at >>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>> the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From terrycooper10 at hotmail.com Sun Jan 15 20:51:43 2012 From: terrycooper10 at hotmail.com (Terry Cooper) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:51:43 +0000 Subject: Trying to unsubscribe Message-ID: Hi to the list owners Could you please try and assist. I've been trying to unsubscribe but am having real problems with getting messages through. Could you please unsubscribe me from your end. Thanks for any help. Terry From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 21:27:45 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:27:45 -0800 Subject: Trying to unsubscribe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20715ED2-554A-433C-8868-71DE3D7A2B32@gmail.com> What happens if you do it from the mail man page? of your list config thing. I'm not the admin so I dunno how things are set up but if you just vo to the email thing and type in your email then it unsub or edit options and then enter in your password you were given at the time of subscribing then hit yes I really want to unsub and hit the unsub button then confirm by replying to the email with the long confirmation string you should be good to go. Take care. On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Terry Cooper wrote: > Hi to the list owners > > Could you please try and assist. > > I've been trying to unsubscribe but am having real problems with getting > messages through. > > Could you please unsubscribe me from your end. > > Thanks for any help. > > Terry > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Jan 15 22:45:19 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:45:19 +0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <3BB8FACA-0AC8-4236-A061-FF95628EC7F3@btinternet.com> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> <5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8> <300A8822-CAD9-4629-8A40-3768BD851A55@btinternet.com> <4F1309B3.8070401@techno-chat.net> <3BB8FACA-0AC8-4236-A061-FF95628EC7F3@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <4F1356FF.7030007@techno-chat.net> Daniel why not try an iDevice now as it comes preloaded with iOS 5. The high quality voices can now be downloaded and used on iOS 5 on all iDevices. On 15/01/2012 20:28, Daniel McGee wrote: > Indeed Chris, for the most part I find Alex nice to listen to but now and then I get a word that he doesn't pronounce promptly. Where as eloquence just seems more natural sounding in saying words correctly. > Chris I am curious since you have and I device which voice do you use for it. See when I got one a couple of years ago I simply didn't understand and still possibly won't the nuance english voices which frustrates me because I really want to use an I device but can't because of this voice problem. > > Daniel > On 15 Jan 2012, at 17:15, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Interesting Daniel, I am hearing impaired as well and it appears I can understand Alex very well. Of course speech synthesis is very subjective, so what may suit one may not necessarily suit the other. >> >> On 15/01/2012 15:09, Daniel McGee wrote: >>> Chris a useful resource that I recommend checking out is >>> www.macfortheblind.com >>> >>> Hopefully you should enjoy that site. >>> I love my Mac and I would love to get an iPhone but the voices i just don't simply understand them and the touch screen doesn't really appeal to me. >>> The only thing I wish I could have on the Mac and IOS is elquance. If I had this I wouldn't go back to windows and before anyone asks this is not a blindness desire but is more needed for my hearing impairment. So if that day comes around I will be jumping around like crazy. So for now I use both platforms because of the above situation I have. >>> >>> Good luck with your research. Oh and by the way I brought a 13 inch Mac Book Pro. >>> Just as a side note when I went the Apple store in blue water I noticed that the Mac Book Air has two USB ports which is the same as the Mac Book Pro. so all you need to think about is do you want a CD-ROM drive or not. Obviously I chose that but I don't know how much they are going to be around in Apple's line up of computers. Just so you know that. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Daniel >>> On 15 Jan 2012, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote: >>> >>>> I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been >>>> easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading. >>>> There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real >>>> pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of >>>> course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle. >>>> The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based >>>> documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these. >>>> >>>> David Griffith >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >>>> Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29 >>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a mac >>>> >>>> So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? >>>> I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it >>>> does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. >>>> >>>> On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: >>>>> I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the >>>>> things you mention. >>>>> >>>>> I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that >>>>> I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I >>>>> switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF >>>>> I use the Mac. >>>>> I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I >>>>> would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including >>>>> the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. >>>>> Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. >>>>> There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself >>>>> wanting to use column view . >>>>> Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my >>>>> experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you >>>>> will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. >>>>> The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of >>>>> information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but >>>>> it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows >>>>> screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning >>>> assistant. >>>>> A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. >>>>> >>>>> David Griffith >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris >>>>> hallsworth >>>>> Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 >>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Switching to a mac >>>>> >>>>> Hello all. >>>>> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >>>>> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >>>>> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >>>>> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >>>>> 2. Manage my e-mail. >>>>> 3. Listen to and manage music. >>>>> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >>>>> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >>>>> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >>>>> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >>>>> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >>>>> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >>>>> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >>>>> no rush necessary. >>>>> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since >>>> 1997. >>>>> It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. >>>>> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much >>>> appreciated. >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at >>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Mon Jan 16 03:27:45 2012 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (michael maslo) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:27:45 -0600 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <3BB8FACA-0AC8-4236-A061-FF95628EC7F3@btinternet.com> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> <5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8> <300A8822-CAD9-4629-8A40-3768BD851A55@btinternet.com> <4F1309B3.8070401@techno-chat.net> <3BB8FACA-0AC8-4236-A061-FF95628EC7F3@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <7754798A-F711-4CDC-8228-1429F901D891@swbell.net> eloquence is no where as clear a alex. I can't believe someone may think that. Eloquence to me is so computer sounding and unreal. On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > Indeed Chris, for the most part I find Alex nice to listen to but now and then I get a word that he doesn't pronounce promptly. Where as eloquence just seems more natural sounding in saying words correctly. > Chris I am curious since you have and I device which voice do you use for it. See when I got one a couple of years ago I simply didn't understand and still possibly won't the nuance english voices which frustrates me because I really want to use an I device but can't because of this voice problem. > > Daniel > On 15 Jan 2012, at 17:15, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Interesting Daniel, I am hearing impaired as well and it appears I can understand Alex very well. Of course speech synthesis is very subjective, so what may suit one may not necessarily suit the other. >> >> On 15/01/2012 15:09, Daniel McGee wrote: >>> Chris a useful resource that I recommend checking out is >>> www.macfortheblind.com >>> >>> Hopefully you should enjoy that site. >>> I love my Mac and I would love to get an iPhone but the voices i just don't simply understand them and the touch screen doesn't really appeal to me. >>> The only thing I wish I could have on the Mac and IOS is elquance. If I had this I wouldn't go back to windows and before anyone asks this is not a blindness desire but is more needed for my hearing impairment. So if that day comes around I will be jumping around like crazy. So for now I use both platforms because of the above situation I have. >>> >>> Good luck with your research. Oh and by the way I brought a 13 inch Mac Book Pro. >>> Just as a side note when I went the Apple store in blue water I noticed that the Mac Book Air has two USB ports which is the same as the Mac Book Pro. so all you need to think about is do you want a CD-ROM drive or not. Obviously I chose that but I don't know how much they are going to be around in Apple's line up of computers. Just so you know that. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Daniel >>> On 15 Jan 2012, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote: >>> >>>> I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been >>>> easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading. >>>> There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real >>>> pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of >>>> course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle. >>>> The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based >>>> documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these. >>>> >>>> David Griffith >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >>>> Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29 >>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a mac >>>> >>>> So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? >>>> I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it >>>> does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. >>>> >>>> On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: >>>>> I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the >>>>> things you mention. >>>>> >>>>> I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that >>>>> I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I >>>>> switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF >>>>> I use the Mac. >>>>> I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I >>>>> would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including >>>>> the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. >>>>> Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. >>>>> There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself >>>>> wanting to use column view . >>>>> Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my >>>>> experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you >>>>> will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. >>>>> The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of >>>>> information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but >>>>> it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows >>>>> screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning >>>> assistant. >>>>> A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. >>>>> >>>>> David Griffith >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris >>>>> hallsworth >>>>> Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 >>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Switching to a mac >>>>> >>>>> Hello all. >>>>> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >>>>> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >>>>> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >>>>> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >>>>> 2. Manage my e-mail. >>>>> 3. Listen to and manage music. >>>>> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >>>>> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >>>>> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >>>>> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >>>>> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >>>>> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >>>>> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >>>>> no rush necessary. >>>>> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since >>>> 1997. >>>>> It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. >>>>> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much >>>> appreciated. >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at >>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From GlennErvin at cableone.net Mon Jan 16 03:39:05 2012 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:39:05 -0600 Subject: Switching to a mac References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8><4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net><5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8><300A8822-CAD9-4629-8A40-3768BD851A55@btinternet.com><4F1309B3.8070401@techno-chat.net><3BB8FACA-0AC8-4236-A061-FF95628EC7F3@btinternet.com> <7754798A-F711-4CDC-8228-1429F901D891@swbell.net> Message-ID: <917522E9FE4D4A8B8D7E085DFDF4F1BF@your2c061f0461> I prefer Eloquence to the more human sounding synths, as they perform better at faster rates, and it allows me some privacy, as most sighted folks don't learn to understand the speech at a faster rate. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael maslo" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Switching to a mac eloquence is no where as clear a alex. I can't believe someone may think that. Eloquence to me is so computer sounding and unreal. On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > Indeed Chris, for the most part I find Alex nice to listen to but now and > then I get a word that he doesn't pronounce promptly. Where as eloquence > just seems more natural sounding in saying words correctly. > Chris I am curious since you have and I device which voice do you use for > it. See when I got one a couple of years ago I simply didn't understand > and still possibly won't the nuance english voices which frustrates me > because I really want to use an I device but can't because of this voice > problem. > > Daniel > On 15 Jan 2012, at 17:15, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Interesting Daniel, I am hearing impaired as well and it appears I can >> understand Alex very well. Of course speech synthesis is very subjective, >> so what may suit one may not necessarily suit the other. >> >> On 15/01/2012 15:09, Daniel McGee wrote: >>> Chris a useful resource that I recommend checking out is >>> www.macfortheblind.com >>> >>> Hopefully you should enjoy that site. >>> I love my Mac and I would love to get an iPhone but the voices i just >>> don't simply understand them and the touch screen doesn't really appeal >>> to me. >>> The only thing I wish I could have on the Mac and IOS is elquance. If I >>> had this I wouldn't go back to windows and before anyone asks this is >>> not a blindness desire but is more needed for my hearing impairment. So >>> if that day comes around I will be jumping around like crazy. So for >>> now I use both platforms because of the above situation I have. >>> >>> Good luck with your research. Oh and by the way I brought a 13 inch Mac >>> Book Pro. >>> Just as a side note when I went the Apple store in blue water I noticed >>> that the Mac Book Air has two USB ports which is the same as the Mac >>> Book Pro. so all you need to think about is do you want a CD-ROM drive >>> or not. Obviously I chose that but I don't know how much they are going >>> to be around in Apple's line up of computers. Just so you know that. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Daniel >>> On 15 Jan 2012, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote: >>> >>>> I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has >>>> been >>>> easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF >>>> reading. >>>> There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a >>>> real >>>> pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. >>>> Of >>>> course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will >>>> struggle. >>>> The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based >>>> documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these. >>>> >>>> David Griffith >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris >>>> hallsworth >>>> Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29 >>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a mac >>>> >>>> So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? >>>> I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect >>>> it >>>> does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. >>>> >>>> On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: >>>>> I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the >>>>> things you mention. >>>>> >>>>> I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that >>>>> I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I >>>>> switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF >>>>> I use the Mac. >>>>> I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I >>>>> would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including >>>>> the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. >>>>> Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. >>>>> There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself >>>>> wanting to use column view . >>>>> Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my >>>>> experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you >>>>> will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor >>>>> downloads. >>>>> The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of >>>>> information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but >>>>> it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows >>>>> screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning >>>> assistant. >>>>> A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. >>>>> >>>>> David Griffith >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris >>>>> hallsworth >>>>> Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 >>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Switching to a mac >>>>> >>>>> Hello all. >>>>> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >>>>> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >>>>> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the >>>>> following: >>>>> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >>>>> 2. Manage my e-mail. >>>>> 3. Listen to and manage music. >>>>> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >>>>> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >>>>> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >>>>> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >>>>> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >>>>> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >>>>> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >>>>> no rush necessary. >>>>> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since >>>> 1997. >>>>> It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod >>>>> Touch. >>>>> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much >>>> appreciated. >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum >>>> at >>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at >>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From helianthe at mac-access.net Mon Jan 16 04:28:32 2012 From: helianthe at mac-access.net (Lyn & her faithful furry friends) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 05:28:32 +0100 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <7754798A-F711-4CDC-8228-1429F901D891@swbell.net> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> <5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8> <300A8822-CAD9-4629-8A40-3768BD851A55@btinternet.com> <4F1309B3.8070401@techno-chat.net> <3BB8FACA-0AC8-4236-A061-FF95628EC7F3@btinternet.com> <7754798A-F711-4CDC-8228-1429F901D891@swbell.net> Message-ID: <593652BA-93FD-49DD-BF31-B0226BA457BC@mac-access.net> agree with you Michael. I personally hope Apple will never bring Eloquence into the Mac, it's just an awful sounding voice and as you rightly say, so computer sounding. But then again, it's just a matter of taste I suppose. Take care, Lyn, Canelle & Epi On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:27 AM, michael maslo wrote: > eloquence is no where as clear a alex. I can't believe someone may think that. Eloquence to me is so computer sounding and unreal. > On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > >> Indeed Chris, for the most part I find Alex nice to listen to but now and then I get a word that he doesn't pronounce promptly. Where as eloquence just seems more natural sounding in saying words correctly. >> Chris I am curious since you have and I device which voice do you use for it. See when I got one a couple of years ago I simply didn't understand and still possibly won't the nuance english voices which frustrates me because I really want to use an I device but can't because of this voice problem. >> >> Daniel >> On 15 Jan 2012, at 17:15, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >>> Interesting Daniel, I am hearing impaired as well and it appears I can understand Alex very well. Of course speech synthesis is very subjective, so what may suit one may not necessarily suit the other. >>> >>> On 15/01/2012 15:09, Daniel McGee wrote: >>>> Chris a useful resource that I recommend checking out is >>>> www.macfortheblind.com >>>> >>>> Hopefully you should enjoy that site. >>>> I love my Mac and I would love to get an iPhone but the voices i just don't simply understand them and the touch screen doesn't really appeal to me. >>>> The only thing I wish I could have on the Mac and IOS is elquance. If I had this I wouldn't go back to windows and before anyone asks this is not a blindness desire but is more needed for my hearing impairment. So if that day comes around I will be jumping around like crazy. So for now I use both platforms because of the above situation I have. >>>> >>>> Good luck with your research. Oh and by the way I brought a 13 inch Mac Book Pro. >>>> Just as a side note when I went the Apple store in blue water I noticed that the Mac Book Air has two USB ports which is the same as the Mac Book Pro. so all you need to think about is do you want a CD-ROM drive or not. Obviously I chose that but I don't know how much they are going to be around in Apple's line up of computers. Just so you know that. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> On 15 Jan 2012, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been >>>>> easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading. >>>>> There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real >>>>> pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of >>>>> course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle. >>>>> The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based >>>>> documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these. >>>>> >>>>> David Griffith >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >>>>> Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29 >>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a mac >>>>> >>>>> So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? >>>>> I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it >>>>> does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. >>>>> >>>>> On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: >>>>>> I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the >>>>>> things you mention. >>>>>> >>>>>> I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that >>>>>> I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I >>>>>> switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF >>>>>> I use the Mac. >>>>>> I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I >>>>>> would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including >>>>>> the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. >>>>>> Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. >>>>>> There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself >>>>>> wanting to use column view . >>>>>> Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my >>>>>> experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you >>>>>> will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. >>>>>> The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of >>>>>> information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but >>>>>> it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows >>>>>> screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning >>>>> assistant. >>>>>> A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. >>>>>> >>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris >>>>>> hallsworth >>>>>> Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 >>>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>>> Subject: Switching to a mac >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all. >>>>>> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >>>>>> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >>>>>> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >>>>>> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >>>>>> 2. Manage my e-mail. >>>>>> 3. Listen to and manage music. >>>>>> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >>>>>> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >>>>>> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >>>>>> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >>>>>> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >>>>>> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >>>>>> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >>>>>> no rush necessary. >>>>>> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since >>>>> 1997. >>>>>> It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. >>>>>> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. It will be much >>>>> appreciated. >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>> at >>>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>> the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >>>>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>>> the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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From 1smartdog at cox.net Mon Jan 16 05:41:32 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:41:32 -0600 Subject: Emoticons Message-ID: Does anyone know if there is a VO accessible emoticon app to insert emoticons into sms messages? Thanks, Karen From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 07:31:51 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 01:31:51 -0600 Subject: Phone Amego accessibility? Message-ID: <78837DC739864E9BA97AD1CCE13DCA2D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Greetings all, Today, the MacUpdate site is discounting PhoneAmego by 40%. I will list there brief description below. I thought before blowing the fifteen bucks and playing ginny pig I'd ask if anyone here has tried it? Phone Amego (Family Pack) provides Caller ID, click-to-dial, Address Book, Google Voice, and phone integration for up to 5 Macs. Features: a.. On screen caller ID with optional voice announcement. b.. Dial calls directly from your Address Book or selected text. c.. Works with popular Bluetooth phones including iPhone. d.. Works with landline phones connected through a USB modem. e.. VoIP caller ID with Linksys/Sipura VoIP telephone adaptors. f.. Caller ID sharing and remote dialing with other hosts on your LAN. g.. Keep notes about each caller in a distributed database and pull them up anywhere. h.. Send SMS to multiple recipients using Google Voice. i.. Shows inbound and outbound call progress. j.. Thoughtful, uncluttered user interface. TIA for any input and best regards. Geoff From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 08:33:12 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:33:12 +0000 Subject: contacts gone! Message-ID: hi all all of my contacts have gone off my iPhone! i deleted the icloud account never use it and i know they are all backed up in itunes but when i sync info they are not coming back! From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 08:39:08 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:39:08 +0000 Subject: only numbers are showing up Message-ID: <800F1248-B545-4D80-857A-C8E0EFF80AB1@gmail.com> hi when i now go to my favourites lists on the iphone only contact numbers are showing up not names, and now i have no icloud i guess i am stuck From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 08:47:05 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:47:05 +0000 Subject: address book Message-ID: HI all All of my address book on the mac has all phone numbers of everyone now yet, when I go to sync addressbook they are not going across to the iphone 4 From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Mon Jan 16 09:51:44 2012 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (michael) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:51:44 +1100 Subject: question about book marks. Message-ID: <5C9A9AB3E4E94171AD8316E3F3B2864C@toshibauser> Hi guys i have just noticed today that wen I want to save a web site in my top sites it will not let me. Wen i do comand d it says add or cancil or something about list or something. I thought it should give me a option about clicking top sites button and typing a name for web site. I am not on mac now to check. I am running safari and os lion on a macbook pro. Since upgrading to os Lion I seam to have a lot of focus problems. Cheers Michael. From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Jan 16 10:33:06 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:33:06 +0000 Subject: Help! How can I recover a calendar?; Message-ID: Hello, I am running the latest Mac OS 10.7.3 with time machine backups. Following a sync problem I have accidentally deleted quite a few entries from my calendar (I deleted the wrong calendar on my iPhone). Is there any way to restore my calendar on my iMac to what it was yesterday? I do have several time machine backups of yesterday. this is a bit of a disaster so I do hope someone can help! Best regards.... Paul Hopewell From godfearer at comcast.net Mon Jan 16 10:40:30 2012 From: godfearer at comcast.net (robert doc Wright) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 03:40:30 -0700 Subject: only numbers are showing up References: <800F1248-B545-4D80-857A-C8E0EFF80AB1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <955E66C722CE408DA523CD4223CD0CDA@Media> find out what is happening with your contact list. this is where the favorites gets its information. ----- Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:39 AM Subject: only numbers are showing up > hi when i now go to my favourites lists on the iphone only contact numbers > are showing up not names, and now i have no icloud i guess i am stuck > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 12:03:56 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:03:56 -0500 Subject: only numbers are showing up In-Reply-To: <800F1248-B545-4D80-857A-C8E0EFF80AB1@gmail.com> References: <800F1248-B545-4D80-857A-C8E0EFF80AB1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003c01ccd446$ed0f3da0$c72db8e0$@gmail.com> No just delete the favorites contacts from the favorites contacts and add them back! Also before you do this from any home page bring up the app switcher and take all apps out of it and reboot the device ! I do this first before deleting your favorites contacts and if this don't work then delete the favorites contacts from your favorites contacts and add them back to your favorites. This will be the start! HTH Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 3:39 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: only numbers are showing up hi when i now go to my favourites lists on the iphone only contact numbers are showing up not names, and now i have no icloud i guess i am stuck <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Jan 16 12:38:23 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 12:38:23 +0000 Subject: Update on sound dock and iPod Touch Message-ID: <4F141A3F.6080600@techno-chat.net> Hello all. You may all remember I received a desktop sound dock for Christmas, which also charges compatible devices, one of which is the iPhone. The makers of this dock is a company called Red, so no not a familiar company but never mind, it's brilliant for what it does and the audio quality is great. Anyway, while it fits snuggly into the iPhone 4, it does not fit snuggly on the iPod Touch. In fact, one light tap and it's off the dock, which obviously could be a problem as it will keep discharging then recharging. Therefore does anybody know of some accessory that would make my iPod Touch possibly snuggly fit into the sound dock? Please advise. Thanks! From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Mon Jan 16 12:46:02 2012 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 12:46:02 +0000 Subject: itunes and underlying files Message-ID: Hello to all, I am finding that when I ask itunes to show a track in finder, the window that comes up bears no relation to the name of the track in itunes. The track that actually plays does match the description, but I am finding the wrong ones being deleted when I try to download a better quality track from itunes match. Is there a safe way to ensure the files are being properly listed in itunes? Many thanks Ian From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 14:47:51 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:47:51 +0000 Subject: frozen on syncing Message-ID: <510272B2-17C6-47A0-B278-354288B04CFC@gmail.com> hi all, i set up my iphone now as a new device, but it is still frozen on syncing mail accounts not sure why None of my addressbook contacts are syncing From venables134 at btinternet.com Mon Jan 16 16:16:56 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:16:56 +0000 Subject: Switching to a mac In-Reply-To: <4F1356FF.7030007@techno-chat.net> References: <4F11B817.3080803@techno-chat.net><913AD5EDC57C4301BD3EF4DE9343289D@acer4d025c48b8> <4F121DD4.3050502@techno-chat.net> <5036A33319264C7381115784CDD6C6EC@acer4d025c48b8> <300A8822-CAD9-4629-8A40-3768BD851A55@btinternet.com> <4F1309B3.8070401@techno-chat.net> <3BB8FACA-0AC8-4236-A061-FF95628EC7F3@btinternet.com> <4F1356FF.7030007@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Hi Chris, I will try that next time I go to an Apple shop and see how I get on with it. Thanks Daniel On 15 Jan 2012, at 22:45, chris hallsworth wrote: > Daniel why not try an iDevice now as it comes preloaded with iOS 5. The high quality voices can now be downloaded and used on iOS 5 on all iDevices. > > On 15/01/2012 20:28, Daniel McGee wrote: >> Indeed Chris, for the most part I find Alex nice to listen to but now and then I get a word that he doesn't pronounce promptly. Where as eloquence just seems more natural sounding in saying words correctly. >> Chris I am curious since you have and I device which voice do you use for it. See when I got one a couple of years ago I simply didn't understand and still possibly won't the nuance english voices which frustrates me because I really want to use an I device but can't because of this voice problem. >> >> Daniel >> On 15 Jan 2012, at 17:15, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >>> Interesting Daniel, I am hearing impaired as well and it appears I can understand Alex very well. Of course speech synthesis is very subjective, so what may suit one may not necessarily suit the other. >>> >>> On 15/01/2012 15:09, Daniel McGee wrote: >>>> Chris a useful resource that I recommend checking out is >>>> www.macfortheblind.com >>>> >>>> Hopefully you should enjoy that site. >>>> I love my Mac and I would love to get an iPhone but the voices i just don't simply understand them and the touch screen doesn't really appeal to me. >>>> The only thing I wish I could have on the Mac and IOS is elquance. If I had this I wouldn't go back to windows and before anyone asks this is not a blindness desire but is more needed for my hearing impairment. So if that day comes around I will be jumping around like crazy. So for now I use both platforms because of the above situation I have. >>>> >>>> Good luck with your research. Oh and by the way I brought a 13 inch Mac Book Pro. >>>> Just as a side note when I went the Apple store in blue water I noticed that the Mac Book Air has two USB ports which is the same as the Mac Book Pro. so all you need to think about is do you want a CD-ROM drive or not. Obviously I chose that but I don't know how much they are going to be around in Apple's line up of computers. Just so you know that. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> On 15 Jan 2012, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been >>>>> easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading. >>>>> There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real >>>>> pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of >>>>> course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle. >>>>> The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based >>>>> documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these. >>>>> >>>>> David Griffith >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >>>>> Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29 >>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a mac >>>>> >>>>> So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? >>>>> I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it >>>>> does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. >>>>> >>>>> On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: >>>>>> I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the >>>>>> things you mention. >>>>>> >>>>>> I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that >>>>>> I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I >>>>>> switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF >>>>>> I use the Mac. >>>>>> I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I >>>>>> would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including >>>>>> the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. >>>>>> Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. >>>>>> There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself >>>>>> wanting to use column view . >>>>>> Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my >>>>>> experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you >>>>>> will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. >>>>>> The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of >>>>>> information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but >>>>>> it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows >>>>>> screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning >>>>> assistant. >>>>>> A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. >>>>>> >>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net >>>>>> [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris >>>>>> hallsworth >>>>>> Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 >>>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>>> Subject: Switching to a mac >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all. >>>>>> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >>>>>> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >>>>>> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >>>>>> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >>>>>> 2. Manage my e-mail. >>>>>> 3. Listen to and manage music. >>>>>> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >>>>>> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >>>>>> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >>>>>> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >>>>>> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >>>>>> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >>>>>> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >>>>>> no rush necessary. >>>>>> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since >>>>> 1997. >>>>>> It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. >>>>>> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. 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>>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From weavermicha at googlemail.com Mon Jan 16 18:05:08 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:05:08 +0000 Subject: tv guide on the i-phone Message-ID: <4f1463aa.a261b40a.5fb8.5666@mx.google.com> does anyone know how to set up the tv guide on the i-phone? for some reason i can't seem to access certain information like channel numbers and don't know what view to use for being able to read the information with voiceover on the i-phone. i am also not sure if i have downloaded the right app for accessibility? From shaiwol at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 22:15:04 2012 From: shaiwol at gmail.com (Shai ) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:15:04 -0800 Subject: Question about accessible word processing programs for the Mac Message-ID: <001501ccd49c$4d86d350$e89479f0$@com> Hello, Lately, I have heard of two Mac word processing programs called Pages and Nisus Writer Pro. I wanted to find out which of these two programs is more accessible with Voiceover. Which processor will allow me to write and read documents, read Microsoft Word comments, get a word count, save in Microsoft Word format, check spelling, change font and select and copy text? Thanks in advance for any responses. Shai From paula.hobley at bigpond.com Mon Jan 16 22:38:46 2012 From: paula.hobley at bigpond.com (Paula Hobley) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:38:46 +1100 Subject: Question about accessible word processing programs for the Mac In-Reply-To: <001501ccd49c$4d86d350$e89479f0$@com> References: <001501ccd49c$4d86d350$e89479f0$@com> Message-ID: <53579DB624F74EA8A2180E43BE2A50E6@PaulaPC> Hey Shai How are you? I'm not sure about Nisus, but I use Pages. Word counts in pages are a bit tricky, you have to use the inspector to find this info out. Spell check can be a little tedius also, although it is doable once you figure out the trick to it. It's a little hard to explain in an email, and I am on my windows machine so don't have it in front of me to try and figure it out. In terms of reading documents, I have no problem doing this with pages. Hth Paula -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shai Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2012 9:15 AM To: mac-access at mac-access.net Subject: Question about accessible word processing programs for the Mac Hello, Lately, I have heard of two Mac word processing programs called Pages and Nisus Writer Pro. I wanted to find out which of these two programs is more accessible with Voiceover. Which processor will allow me to write and read documents, read Microsoft Word comments, get a word count, save in Microsoft Word format, check spelling, change font and select and copy text? Thanks in advance for any responses. Shai <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From venables134 at btinternet.com Mon Jan 16 22:38:56 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:38:56 +0000 Subject: Question about accessible word processing programs for the Mac In-Reply-To: <001501ccd49c$4d86d350$e89479f0$@com> References: <001501ccd49c$4d86d350$e89479f0$@com> Message-ID: <13CA351C-682A-460A-BE03-B3FBFE69584A@btinternet.com> Hi or even before spending any money on a word processor programme. A good free one to use is called Bean. Just google it and see how you like it. I hope this helps. Daniel On 16 Jan 2012, at 22:15, Shai wrote: > Hello, > > Lately, I have heard of two Mac word processing programs called Pages and > Nisus Writer Pro. I wanted to find out which of these two programs is more > accessible with Voiceover. Which processor will allow me to write and read > documents, read Microsoft Word comments, get a word count, save in Microsoft > Word format, check spelling, change font and select and copy text? > Thanks in advance for any responses. > Shai > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Mon Jan 16 23:21:16 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:21:16 -0400 Subject: An Audio Question. In-Reply-To: References: <7B146DC93CF84810B2B861A8D20528D8@MainComputer> <0CB4458CC915496E8C6FE70528BB5FB7@MainComputer> Message-ID: <1E2A113B66E145FA8E9F52227C4356B4@MainComputer> Sarah: Where do I snag this "lien in" program? Thanks all over the place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:24 PM Subject: Re: An Audio Question. > Thatw why I recomended lien in so you can her what's going on. I use it to > moniter sound flower all the time. > > Take care. > On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Sarah: >> >> Thanks for your post. The problem with that solution is that it changes >> the default soundcard across the board. Onlike the Windows version of >> Skype, there does not appear to be a way to change the output level in >> the Skype preferences. Is that correct? If so, bummer. >> >> Thanks all over the place. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:48 PM >> Subject: Re: An Audio Question. >> >> >>> No. Well yes. you need to set the output also to the sound card of yoru >>> headset in order for that to work. You do thiw in system prefs or by >>> holding down option f12 to get there or option fn 12 if you have to. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks: >>>> >>>> I am using a cordless USB headset for the Skype program. I can get >>>> Skype to use both the mick as well as the headphones; the problem is >>>> that, the volume control on the headset controls the default Mac volume >>>> but does not alter the sound level of Skype. >>>> >>>> Is there a way around this? >>>> >>>> Thanks all over the place gang. >>>> >>>> The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy >>>> Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>> signature database 6794 (20120114) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature database 6795 (20120114) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 6795 (20120114) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6795 (20120114) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6801 (20120116) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Mon Jan 16 23:44:44 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:44:44 -0600 Subject: Phone Amego accessibility? References: <78837DC739864E9BA97AD1CCE13DCA2D@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Message-ID: <6587EAFE65AD42A0A0E2EC934A6ECAA4@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Thanks to a free trial, I can report that the short answer to my question is that this app appears to be inaccessible. When launched, it does not appear in the dock or present a menu, and it disappeared when ever I moved focus away. I was able to relaunch Phone Amego by pointing to it and pressing command-downarrow. It seemed possible to configure various devices, however I closed all Windows, and now when I attempt to launch, nothing happens. If I use vo-rightArrow I hear the spoken message stating: "phone amego has no windows". I restarted without reopening windows, but this accomplished nothing. So the bottom line is that it is possible to configure PhoneAmego once, but I suspect they used the technique of adding a pulldown menu to which the voiceOver authors have determined does not need to be read by VI customers. One thing to be said for competing screen readers!!!! Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Waaler To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: Phone Amego accessibility? Greetings all, Today, the MacUpdate site is discounting PhoneAmego by 40%. I will list there brief description below. I thought before blowing the fifteen bucks and playing ginny pig I'd ask if anyone here has tried it? Phone Amego (Family Pack) provides Caller ID, click-to-dial, Address Book, Google Voice, and phone integration for up to 5 Macs. Features: a.. On screen caller ID with optional voice announcement. b.. Dial calls directly from your Address Book or selected text. c.. Works with popular Bluetooth phones including iPhone. d.. Works with landline phones connected through a USB modem. e.. VoIP caller ID with Linksys/Sipura VoIP telephone adaptors. f.. Caller ID sharing and remote dialing with other hosts on your LAN. g.. Keep notes about each caller in a distributed database and pull them up anywhere. h.. Send SMS to multiple recipients using Google Voice. i.. Shows inbound and outbound call progress. j.. Thoughtful, uncluttered user interface. TIA for any input and best regards. Geoff From moriond at mac.com Tue Jan 17 00:24:59 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:24:59 -1000 Subject: Where to get "LineIn" program for audio monitoring [was Re: An Audio Question.] In-Reply-To: <1E2A113B66E145FA8E9F52227C4356B4@MainComputer> References: <7B146DC93CF84810B2B861A8D20528D8@MainComputer> <0CB4458CC915496E8C6FE70528BB5FB7@MainComputer> <1E2A113B66E145FA8E9F52227C4356B4@MainComputer> Message-ID: Hi Jim, This isn't Sarah, but you can get the free "LineIn" program from the Rogue Amoeba freebies page: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/freebies/ For those who haven't been following this thread, the Mac audio software doesn't support "pass thru" monitoring of an input audio signal from Mic or other input source in its default configuration. This function usually has to be implemented by your audio recording or editing software if you want to monitor the volume level or content of what you are recording through headphones. "LineIn" is a simple, free program whose window features a "pass thru" button along with buttons for the input and output audio selection. If you need to find this again, just do a Google search for "Rogue Amoeba freebies". (Rogue Amoeba is the developer of the "Audio Hijack Pro" recording software). HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 16, 2012, at 13:21, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Sarah: > > Where do I snag this "lien in" program? > > Thanks all over the place. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:24 PM > Subject: Re: An Audio Question. > > >> Thatw why I recomended lien in so you can her what's going on. I use it to moniter sound flower all the time. >> >> Take care. >> On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >> >>> Sarah: >>> >>> Thanks for your post. The problem with that solution is that it changes the default soundcard across the board. Onlike the Windows version of Skype, there does not appear to be a way to change the output level in the Skype preferences. Is that correct? If so, bummer. >>> >>> Thanks all over the place. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:48 PM >>> Subject: Re: An Audio Question. >>> >>> >>>> No. Well yes. you need to set the output also to the sound card of yoru headset in order for that to work. You do thiw in system prefs or by holding down option f12 to get there or option fn 12 if you have to. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Folks: >>>>> >>>>> I am using a cordless USB headset for the Skype program. I can get Skype to use both the mick as well as the headphones; the problem is that, the volume control on the headset controls the default Mac volume but does not alter the sound level of Skype. >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way around this? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks all over the place gang. From jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com Tue Jan 17 00:32:26 2012 From: jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com (Jim Noseworthy) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:32:26 -0400 Subject: Where to get "LineIn" program for audio monitoring [was Re: An Audio Question.] In-Reply-To: References: <7B146DC93CF84810B2B861A8D20528D8@MainComputer> <0CB4458CC915496E8C6FE70528BB5FB7@MainComputer> <1E2A113B66E145FA8E9F52227C4356B4@MainComputer> Message-ID: Esther: Thanks all over the place. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 8:24 PM Subject: Where to get "LineIn" program for audio monitoring [was Re: An Audio Question.] > Hi Jim, > > This isn't Sarah, but you can get the free "LineIn" program from the Rogue > Amoeba freebies page: > http://www.rogueamoeba.com/freebies/ > > For those who haven't been following this thread, the Mac audio software > doesn't support "pass thru" monitoring of an input audio signal from Mic > or other input source in its default configuration. This function usually > has to be implemented by your audio recording or editing software if you > want to monitor the volume level or content of what you are recording > through headphones. "LineIn" is a simple, free program whose window > features a "pass thru" button along with buttons for the input and output > audio selection. > > If you need to find this again, just do a Google search for "Rogue Amoeba > freebies". (Rogue Amoeba is the developer of the "Audio Hijack Pro" > recording software). > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > > On Jan 16, 2012, at 13:21, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Sarah: >> >> Where do I snag this "lien in" program? >> >> Thanks all over the place. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:24 PM >> Subject: Re: An Audio Question. >> >> >>> Thatw why I recomended lien in so you can her what's going on. I use it >>> to moniter sound flower all the time. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Sarah: >>>> >>>> Thanks for your post. The problem with that solution is that it >>>> changes the default soundcard across the board. Onlike the Windows >>>> version of Skype, there does not appear to be a way to change the >>>> output level in the Skype preferences. Is that correct? If so, bummer. >>>> >>>> Thanks all over the place. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:48 PM >>>> Subject: Re: An Audio Question. >>>> >>>> >>>>> No. Well yes. you need to set the output also to the sound card of >>>>> yoru headset in order for that to work. You do thiw in system prefs or >>>>> by holding down option f12 to get there or option fn 12 if you have >>>>> to. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Folks: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am using a cordless USB headset for the Skype program. I can get >>>>>> Skype to use both the mick as well as the headphones; the problem is >>>>>> that, the volume control on the headset controls the default Mac >>>>>> volume but does not alter the sound level of Skype. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a way around this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks all over the place gang. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 6801 (20120116) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6801 (20120116) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From moopiecurran at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 01:38:04 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:38:04 -0500 Subject: any good quiz making apps out there? Message-ID: <20AB356E-78C2-49C0-A105-B7D6325E0985@gmail.com> Hi, Are there any accessible quiz making apps for ios or mac out there? Thanks, Courtney Sent from my macbook air From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 04:24:14 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:24:14 -0800 Subject: ICal events changing dates. Message-ID: I remember discussing this before, and I emailed apple accessibility but they said something was wrong with my ical. but it can't be since voice over is I think to blain, I'm trying to set a monday wednesday class so I go to custom to repeat and go to weekly and then go to the days and hit ok. It goes back to weekly. and I cannot change the days at all. Help? It also changes the day that i had my appointment scheduled for as well. Thanks. From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 04:31:53 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:31:53 -0800 Subject: Where to get "LineIn" program for audio monitoring [was Re: An Audio Question.] In-Reply-To: References: <7B146DC93CF84810B2B861A8D20528D8@MainComputer> <0CB4458CC915496E8C6FE70528BB5FB7@MainComputer> <1E2A113B66E145FA8E9F52227C4356B4@MainComputer> Message-ID: <7AA59C06-F0FE-4460-AD25-7E89AC18C848@gmail.com> lol. thanks for that ester. I keep forgetting where to get the thing since it was last year when I got it lol! On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Jim, > > This isn't Sarah, but you can get the free "LineIn" program from the Rogue Amoeba freebies page: > http://www.rogueamoeba.com/freebies/ > > For those who haven't been following this thread, the Mac audio software doesn't support "pass thru" monitoring of an input audio signal from Mic or other input source in its default configuration. This function usually has to be implemented by your audio recording or editing software if you want to monitor the volume level or content of what you are recording through headphones. "LineIn" is a simple, free program whose window features a "pass thru" button along with buttons for the input and output audio selection. > > If you need to find this again, just do a Google search for "Rogue Amoeba freebies". (Rogue Amoeba is the developer of the "Audio Hijack Pro" recording software). > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > > On Jan 16, 2012, at 13:21, Jim Noseworthy wrote: > >> Sarah: >> >> Where do I snag this "lien in" program? >> >> Thanks all over the place. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:24 PM >> Subject: Re: An Audio Question. >> >> >>> Thatw why I recomended lien in so you can her what's going on. I use it to moniter sound flower all the time. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>> >>>> Sarah: >>>> >>>> Thanks for your post. The problem with that solution is that it changes the default soundcard across the board. Onlike the Windows version of Skype, there does not appear to be a way to change the output level in the Skype preferences. Is that correct? If so, bummer. >>>> >>>> Thanks all over the place. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:48 PM >>>> Subject: Re: An Audio Question. >>>> >>>> >>>>> No. Well yes. you need to set the output also to the sound card of yoru headset in order for that to work. You do thiw in system prefs or by holding down option f12 to get there or option fn 12 if you have to. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Folks: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am using a cordless USB headset for the Skype program. I can get Skype to use both the mick as well as the headphones; the problem is that, the volume control on the headset controls the default Mac volume but does not alter the sound level of Skype. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a way around this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks all over the place gang. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Tue Jan 17 04:51:16 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 04:51:16 +0000 Subject: Connect to wifi on mac In-Reply-To: <4F12BD53.1060809@techno-chat.net> References: <4F12BD53.1060809@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <17A45F42-68F8-4E9C-A8EB-208A4A08E0F3@googlemail.com> Hi chris, you can use the efanet cable. when you first set up your mac, It should autamaticly come up with your list of wifi networks and let you choose to join one. Ian McNamara From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 05:21:49 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 23:21:49 -0600 Subject: any good quiz making apps out there? References: <20AB356E-78C2-49C0-A105-B7D6325E0985@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9A9DA83B6EAC43A4AC75A8FE26B2C622@YOURZ8KUJVJGKY> Hi Courtney, The one I've played with is an IOS app called Adaptive Trivia by Suchale which is available at the US store at least. The full version is $0.99, but they have a scaled down version that is free of charge. Its perfectly accessible, though IMHO, voiceOver users need to read and think fast. Have fun. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Courtney Curran To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 7:38 PM Subject: any good quiz making apps out there? Hi, Are there any accessible quiz making apps for ios or mac out there? Thanks, Courtney Sent from my macbook air <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Tue Jan 17 09:44:14 2012 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:44:14 +0000 Subject: Linked In Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone out there use Linked In? Are there too many accessibility issues to stop me joining? Thanks Ian From smur7241 at bigpond.net.au Tue Jan 17 10:57:53 2012 From: smur7241 at bigpond.net.au (Sean Murphy) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:57:53 +1100 Subject: Air drop tips. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all. Has any one successfully used Air drop? You access it from finder using shift + command + r. It allows you to transferred files between Lion Mac PC's. Sean On 13/01/2012, at 9:28 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I don't have vo keys for this but enjoy the read anyway. > > > http://www.cultofmac.com/138782/select-text-like-a-pro-os-x-tips/?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk Tue Jan 17 11:47:34 2012 From: harrisonclan at harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk (Ian Harrison) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:47:34 +0000 Subject: Address Book in Lion Message-ID: Hi, I can't seem to be able to move into contact information once I have selected a contact. In snow leopard I would find the contact, stop interacting with list and move across to contact info. This does not seem to be working in Lion. Can anyone help? Thanks Ian From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 11:56:08 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:56:08 +0000 Subject: Address Book in Lion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0F97BFAC-C6F7-4006-97B2-01B84279CAC7@gmail.com> i go to the name table, and then stop interacting go back to the contact information group interact then find the scroll area, all this after highlighting who you want in the name table, sure easier way. Will On Jan 17, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: > Hi, > > I can't seem to be able to move into contact information once I have selected a contact. In snow leopard I would find the contact, stop interacting with list and move across to contact info. This does not seem to be working in Lion. > > Can anyone help? > > Thanks > Ian > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 14:25:19 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:25:19 -0600 Subject: Linked In In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <385B8461-229A-4229-B3DB-552CA74208CF@gmail.com> Haven't really played with it much, just added my brother via his invitation, had to use the tab to get past the search box, but would say at least cimi accessible. Could be better though. Again though haven't been on there long, and haven't messed with it much either at this point, hopefully some others will have better information for you. On Jan 17, 2012, at 3:44 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone out there use Linked In? Are there too many accessibility issues to stop me joining? > > Thanks > Ian > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From blindworrell at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 17:29:01 2012 From: blindworrell at yahoo.com (Ed Worrell) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:29:01 -0700 Subject: Linked In In-Reply-To: <385B8461-229A-4229-B3DB-552CA74208CF@gmail.com> References: <385B8461-229A-4229-B3DB-552CA74208CF@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, I have been using LinkedIn for awhile now, I just don't get it, I would say that the accessibility could be a lot better, It is most deffinently doable, there are lots of short comings when using the website, and I don't completely get the iPhone app either, I feel that there isn't much that you can do with the social/work site, I really don't know what to think of the service to tell you the truth. It is doable if you want to take the time and figure out the strangeness of the website. Ed From opensesame at me.com Tue Jan 17 17:48:36 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:48:36 -0500 Subject: A question about Reminders in Lion Mail Message-ID: Hi Folks, I'm pretty certain apple inexplicably removed the previous ties between Mail.app and To-Do items created in iCal when they introduced Lion and morphed the To-Do functions into Reminders. However, I noticed that when I interact with the mailboxes table in Lion's mail.app and use VO to navigate down the list, I encounter an item labeled "Reminders." When I expand this item, I am presented with my "Notes" mailboxes where items created as Notes are stored. Much to my chagrin, AFAIK there is no way to view, manage or otherwise integrate Reminders with mail.app. I've done the usual googling for information regarding this oddity and am throwing this out to the list JIC anybody here might have some insight. TIA, Bryan From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 18:01:35 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:01:35 -0800 Subject: Linked In In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I do and it's quite good. I need to catch up on the people who have added me and I need to except but it looks pretty accessible. Take care. On Jan 17, 2012, at 1:44 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone out there use Linked In? Are there too many accessibility issues to stop me joining? > > Thanks > Ian > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 18:02:48 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:02:48 -0800 Subject: Address Book in Lion In-Reply-To: <0F97BFAC-C6F7-4006-97B2-01B84279CAC7@gmail.com> References: <0F97BFAC-C6F7-4006-97B2-01B84279CAC7@gmail.com> Message-ID: No that's how I do it as well. the info part of the contact is I think to the left of the table. it's confusing but it works. Take care. On Jan 17, 2012, at 3:56 AM, william lomas wrote: > i go to the name table, and then stop interacting go back to the contact information group interact then find the scroll area, all this after highlighting who you want in the name table, sure easier way. > Will > > On Jan 17, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Ian Harrison wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I can't seem to be able to move into contact information once I have selected a contact. In snow leopard I would find the contact, stop interacting with list and move across to contact info. This does not seem to be working in Lion. >> >> Can anyone help? >> >> Thanks >> Ian >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 18:26:47 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:26:47 -0800 Subject: Enable local Time Machine snapshots on a desktop Mac | Macworld Message-ID: <7664DD0C-6362-4C84-9BFA-D6A08804EB4F@gmail.com> I wonder if I can create a do shell script for this that way I can disable these while working in IMovie.. Read below. http://www.macworld.com/article/164802/2012/01/enable_local_time_machine_snapshots_on_a_desktop_mac.html#lsrc.rss_howto From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 20:14:16 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:14:16 +0000 Subject: dropbox again Message-ID: <511E5DFE-B0E8-4449-9E3F-A7DADB3E7E9F@gmail.com> hi all how on a mac can i b notified of notifications that files synced that i sharing or receiving? From marrie12 at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 20:53:55 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:53:55 -0800 Subject: dropbox again In-Reply-To: <511E5DFE-B0E8-4449-9E3F-A7DADB3E7E9F@gmail.com> References: <511E5DFE-B0E8-4449-9E3F-A7DADB3E7E9F@gmail.com> Message-ID: You have to use growl with it. I dun't know how to do that as I never could get it working. but good luck. On Jan 17, 2012, at 12:14 PM, william lomas wrote: > hi all how on a mac can i b notified of notifications that files synced that i sharing or receiving? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Tue Jan 17 23:24:59 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:24:59 -1000 Subject: An Automator solution for To-Do item Reminders in Lion [was Re: A question about Reminders in Lion Mail] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1CEAFFED-1763-48C9-979E-12263DE5379C@mac.com> Hi Bryan, I'm still using Snow Leopard, so ToDo lists in mail are supported, but here's a suggestion for a way to solve this in Lion: use Automator to create a service consisting of a single action, "New To Do Item", then assign it a keyboard shortcut under the Services menu so you can access it from anywhere via the shortcut. This should bring up a dialog window that lets you set all the information you used to have through the ToDo items in Mail. You may have to experiment if there are differences with Lion, but here are instructions that work for Snow Leopard, that should also work for you: 1. Launch Automator (e.g., from Finder, use Command-Shift-A to go to your Applications folder, press "a u t" to navigate to "Automator", and press Command-Down Arrow to open it; or just use Spotlight to find and launch "Automator" by pressing Command+space bar, typing "a u t o", and pressing "Return".) 2. Select "Service" when prompted to choose a template for your workflow 3. You'll be in a Workflow window named "Untitled", in a search text field for finding actions. Type in "New To Do" and press return to launch the search. 4. You should be focused on a "New To Do Item" in an "Actions Table". VO will say "actions table 1 row selected column 1 New To Do Item". Press "Return" to add this action to your workflow. 5. VO will say "Untitled workflow 1 selection. New To Do Item? action" and move focus to the workflow. Interact with the action. 6. Navigate (VO+Right arrow) in the "New To Do Item" action to "Options" and VO-Space to check this checkbox. Then continue navigating (VO+Right arrow) to the "Show this action when the workflow runs" checkbox and use VO-Space to check it. This ensures that the dialog box that allows you to set due date, title, and priority, will show up when this service is run. If you want, you can also check the box for "Show only the selected items". Then the only items shown are the ones that are checked (such as "Due date", if you don't want to specify "Priority"). You can also set the pop up menu buttons to specify a default calendar to use. 7. Stop interacting with the "New To Do Item" action and navigate with VO+Left arrow to the "text in service receives selected in any application Replaces selected text group", and interact. 8. This group is a general Service preamble, that sets up what kind of information gets passed to your service, and what applications access this service. The default setting is set to pass text between services. But in this case we want to be able to set up "To Do" entries in the calendar without selecting or passing text. So navigate (VO+Right arrow) to the pop up menu following "Service receives selected", VO-Space, and change this from "text" to "no input" (e.g., by using your down arrow key to navigate to this selection, or using Command+Down arrow to move to this entry at the end of the list, or by typing "no input", etc. then pressing "return"). 9. Save the service workflow you've just created (e.g., give it some name like "My New To Do".) 10. To make this easy to use, assign this a services menu shortcut. While you can go to System Preferences > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts and then select "Services" in the "Shortcuts Categories" table, I find that the fast way to navigate there is to go directly to the Services menu entry for any application and find "Services Preferences?" in the submenu. In most applications these sub-menu entries won't appear unless you select something first, since most services typically act on what you've selected. In Mail, I believe that the Services menu appears whether or not you have made a selection. In any case, select something (word, or character), then use VO-M or Control+F2 to navigate to the Apple menu on the menu bar, VO+Right arrow to the application, then arrow down to the menu, press "s" to move to "Services", right arrow to the submenu, arrow down to "Services Preferences?" and press "Return". You'll be placed in the Keyboard Shortcuts pane of System Preferences with "Services" already selected under the "Shortcuts Categories" table. Use item chooser menu (VO+I) to locate your "My New To Do" service in the "Keyboard Shortcuts" table (e.g., type "My New" then either press return or VO-Space to navigate to the item, then VO-Space again to select it. Tab twice to activate the edit field for a shortcut assignment, then type in your selected shortcut, e.g., Command+Option+Shift+M. Press Command+W to close the Keyboard shortcuts window. Now, from any application, you can press the shortcut Command+Option+Shift+M (or other shortcut of your selection), and bring up a "New To Do Item" window. Assign a title, priority, and date. When you set the date, you also have access to alarm options. This should show up in your calendar and sync with the cloud. More generally, you can browse or choose other actions in your Automator library to add to workflows. By default, the library selection for actions is set to your entire Library, so typing search terms into the search text field will pull up any action matches to keywords. But if you wanted to explore the available actions by category, you could navigate back (VO+Left arrow) from the search text field to the "actions checked checkbox" that is the first element in the window, following the title bar. VO+Down arrow from this to the "actions description, split view, split group" and interact. This area contains your library table, actions table, and a section for a description of the action you select. The library and actions table constitute a split group that is the result of your first interaction. If you interact with the group, you can navigate first through the various groups within your Library (e.g., VO+Right arrow to "Calendar", "Contacts", "Documents", "Files & Folders", etc.). When you select one of these groups, then the results of the search and the listed actions in the associated "actions table" (that you can jump to with VO+Command+T) are limited to your selection. When you select/highlight an action in the "actions table", you can then use VO+Command+T again to jump to the description. For example, I could have selected "New To Do Item" by navigating to "Calendar" under the "Library table" for actions. With "Calendar" highlighted, VO+Command+T would jump me to the list of available "Calendar" actions in the "actions table" (e.g., "Delete iCal Event", "Event Summary", etc. and "New To Do Item".) With "New To Do Item" highlighted in the "actions table", VO+Command+T takes me to the description. If I VO+left arrow I'll hear "This action creates a new To Do item. If given input, it will use the input as the titles of the to dos." To add any action to your workflow, highlight the action you want in the "actions table" and either press "Return" or double click with mouse or trackpad. Selection gets done in the left half of the Automator window, while workflow assembly and editing gets down in the right half of the Automator window. To reorder actions in your workflow, interact with the action and navigate to the action's title bar (e.g., "New To Do Item"). Then press Option+Up arrow or Option+Down arrow to move the selected action's position up or down in the workflow. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 17, 2012, at 07:48, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'm pretty certain apple inexplicably removed the previous ties between Mail.app and To-Do items created in iCal when they introduced Lion and morphed the To-Do functions into Reminders. However, I noticed that when I interact with the mailboxes table in Lion's mail.app and use VO to navigate down the list, I encounter an item labeled "Reminders." When I expand this item, I am presented with my "Notes" mailboxes where items created as Notes are stored. Much to my chagrin, AFAIK there is no way to view, manage or otherwise integrate Reminders with mail.app. > > I've done the usual googling for information regarding this oddity and am throwing this out to the list JIC anybody here might have some insight. > > TIA, > Bryan > From fitzcl at centurylink.net Wed Jan 18 02:21:37 2012 From: fitzcl at centurylink.net (Catherine G) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:21:37 -0800 Subject: Skype on the IPhone Message-ID: <005a01ccd587$e88010b0$b9803210$@net> Rumor has it that using Skype on the IPhone does not affect your IPhone data plan and is free of all charges. Fact or fiction? Catherine Golding Olympia, Washington From GlennErvin at cableone.net Wed Jan 18 02:33:42 2012 From: GlennErvin at cableone.net (Glenn) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:33:42 -0600 Subject: Skype on the IPhone References: <005a01ccd587$e88010b0$b9803210$@net> Message-ID: If you only use it with the WIFI connection, that is true, but when you are not connected to WIFI, it will use data, just like any Internet app. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine G" To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Skype on the IPhone Rumor has it that using Skype on the IPhone does not affect your IPhone data plan and is free of all charges. Fact or fiction? Catherine Golding Olympia, Washington <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From d.griffith at btinternet.com Wed Jan 18 09:19:18 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:19:18 +0000 Subject: Date and time tip Message-ID: As a comparative rookie with the Mac I hesitate to offer tips as you probably know this. anyway in case it is useful. I have been experimenting with the free beam Word Processor. Beam actually performs better so far with word tables than any other Mac Word Processor that I have used. Whilst it does not recognise them as tables it does at least read the contents of the tables than simply say embedded object like Nisus Writer Pro does. Given that a free wordProcessor can apparently achieve this it is a bit odd that other programs cannot at least get this functionality I am therefore looking at extending the functionality of Beam. . I could not find an easy way to insert the date in Beam . I however, have apple scripts enabled and can use right option T to get voiceover to announce the date and time. All I have to do then is press Shift VO C to copy the last spoken text into into clipboard and the current date and time is then available for pasting into Beam. A limited tip I know but I thought I would offer it anyway. David Griffith d.griffith at btinternet.com From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 14:46:03 2012 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:46:03 +0100 Subject: iPad and strange behavior in ITunes and app store. Message-ID: Hi. I have a big problem with my IPad. It is not very easy to use the ITunes music store and app store any longer. It seems to me, that there appears some pictures. If I search for a specific application which I know exists it does not appear. I hope you can help. Best regards Annie. From moopiecurran at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 15:28:48 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:28:48 -0500 Subject: iPad and strange behavior in ITunes and app store. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <318C51C0-9D97-4491-9AC3-30A572063AC8@gmail.com> Hi, I've been having this exact same problem. I have no idea of what caused it. Courtney On 18/01/2012, at 9:46 in the morning, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > > I have a big problem with my IPad. It is not very easy to use the ITunes music store and app store any longer. It seems to me, that there appears some pictures. If I search for a specific application which I know exists it does not appear. > > I hope you can help. > > Best regards Annie. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 16:10:27 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:10:27 -0500 Subject: the stanza app Message-ID: <8CE54D8B-6E51-43E4-BBAC-04A2575260C4@gmail.com> Hi, Is the stanza app for mac free? I see one online that's free, but I don't know if it's the same one as some of you on the list use. Courtney From juanitatighan at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 16:13:49 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:13:49 -0500 Subject: the stanza app In-Reply-To: <8CE54D8B-6E51-43E4-BBAC-04A2575260C4@gmail.com> References: <8CE54D8B-6E51-43E4-BBAC-04A2575260C4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <99660D4C-B8AB-4C12-9470-729147757749@gmail.com> Yes, the app is free. I have it. Jane On Jan 18, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Is the stanza app for mac free? I see one online that's free, but I don't know if it's the same one as some of you on the list use. > Courtney > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 16:43:32 2012 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:43:32 +0100 Subject: iPad and strange behavior in ITunes and app store. In-Reply-To: <318C51C0-9D97-4491-9AC3-30A572063AC8@gmail.com> References: <318C51C0-9D97-4491-9AC3-30A572063AC8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <861CDA0A-183E-4BC7-8B16-7F8D9A82E799@gmail.com> Hi Courtney. I am glad that I am not the only one, who is having that problem. I think we will need to get the problems reported, so that they can be solved. I simply can not figure out a work around. Best regards Annie. Den Jan 18, 2012 kl. 4:28 PM skrev Courtney Curran: > Hi, > I've been having this exact same problem. I have no idea of what caused it. > Courtney > On 18/01/2012, at 9:46 in the morning, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I have a big problem with my IPad. It is not very easy to use the ITunes music store and app store any longer. It seems to me, that there appears some pictures. If I search for a specific application which I know exists it does not appear. >> >> I hope you can help. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 17:09:42 2012 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:09:42 +0100 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. Message-ID: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> Hi. Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. Best regards Annie. > > Best regards Annie. From jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 17:19:20 2012 From: jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com (Jonathan Tyrer) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:19:20 +0000 Subject: tv guide on the i-phone In-Reply-To: <4f1463aa.a261b40a.5fb8.5666@mx.google.com> References: <4f1463aa.a261b40a.5fb8.5666@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I use TV Plus, it's really useful and even allows me to set my Sky+ recordings. Now you mention it, it doesn't tell you the channel numbers, but it's never been a problem. Before getting this app, I used to pay for MyDigiGuide.com, it used to seem worth the money. Now I just use TV Plus for all my tv listings needs. JT On 16/01/2012, michael weaver wrote: > does anyone know how to set up the tv guide on the i-phone? > for some reason i can't seem to access certain information like > channel numbers and don't know what view to use for being able to > read the information with voiceover on the i-phone. > i am also not sure if i have downloaded the right app for > accessibility? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Wed Jan 18 17:37:21 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:37:21 +0000 Subject: Question about Apple Mail and imap Message-ID: Hello, Does anyone know the answer to the following..... Suppose I receive an Email in my Apple Mail INBOXD using imap protocols and it is immediately moved by a rule to another mail box which exists only on my iMac. Tests show that this Email is still visible to other clients of the same mail server who also use imap protocols. that is good. Now suppose I delete the above Email from the mail box I moved it to. Does this now delete the Email from the imap server meaning that other imap clients who have not yet seen this Email will never see it. I believe that is what happens if I delete an imap Email from my INBOX but am not sure what happens if I delete it after it has been moved. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 22:24:39 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:24:39 -0800 Subject: Question about Apple Mail and imap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50F8A19F-D904-4B3D-B185-B64A8632F20F@gmail.com> I believe it will be deleated even if the other inboxes did not see it. YOu hyave to do a refresh so they serverside stuff can refresh. This is why I recomend setting p serverside filters so you don't have to create folders on your mac. Tc. On Jan 18, 2012, at 9:37, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > Does anyone know the answer to the following..... > > Suppose I receive an Email in my Apple Mail INBOXD using imap protocols and it is immediately moved by a rule to another mail box which exists only on my iMac. Tests show that this Email is still visible to other clients of the same mail server who also use imap protocols. that is good. > > Now suppose I delete the above Email from the mail box I moved it to. Does this now delete the Email from the imap server meaning that other imap clients who have not yet seen this Email will never see it. I believe that is what happens if I delete an imap Email from my INBOX but am not sure what happens if I delete it after it has been moved. > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 22:28:17 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:28:17 -0500 Subject: best keyboard/case for ipad two? Message-ID: Hi, What's the best keyboard case for the ipad two? And can I get it from the apple store as opposed to online? Courtney From marrie12 at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 22:28:50 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:28:50 -0800 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> Message-ID: <95320226-977B-48C7-A2BE-A6F16339851C@gmail.com> What happens if you use the voice memos app? I plan on getting an blue micki which now supports ipn=hone 4 and I believe higher and records in stereo. but the voice memos app records pretty good quality. Thanks. On Jan 18, 2012, at 9:09, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > > Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. > > I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. > > I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. > > Best regards Annie. > > >> >> Best regards Annie. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From venables134 at btinternet.com Wed Jan 18 23:38:53 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 23:38:53 +0000 Subject: Voiceover sounds quicker getting info when off than on? Message-ID: <7AE15C44-C76C-407D-BFE0-8DC4778B07FB@btinternet.com> Hi all, just have a simple question. When for those who use VO with the sounds, I was just simply wondering do you get quicker speech when not using them? Or is it the same amount of time either way. Hope this makes sense. If anyone wants me to explain further then I will try and do so. Thanks Daniel From jpanarese at mac-access.net Thu Jan 19 00:13:01 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:13:01 -0500 Subject: Voiceover sounds quicker getting info when off than on? In-Reply-To: <7AE15C44-C76C-407D-BFE0-8DC4778B07FB@btinternet.com> References: <7AE15C44-C76C-407D-BFE0-8DC4778B07FB@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <87E891E6-9AE2-4132-990F-5AC346AD06DE@mac-access.net> I don't notice a difference. At least, nothing I have really detected with my ears. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > Hi all, just have a simple question. > > When for those who use VO with the sounds, I was just simply wondering do you get quicker speech when not using them? Or is it the same amount of time either way. > > Hope this makes sense. > > If anyone wants me to explain further then I will try and do so. > > Thanks > > Daniel > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Thu Jan 19 00:13:43 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:13:43 -0500 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> Message-ID: <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> Hi Annie, I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the Developer also keeps improving and adding features. I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so many features that you really need to take the time to read the documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use recorder and note taker. I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. Eric Caron On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > > Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. > > I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. > > I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. > > Best regards Annie. > > >> >> Best regards Annie. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From zkline at speedpost.net Thu Jan 19 00:15:35 2012 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:15:35 -0800 Subject: Voiceover sounds quicker getting info when off than on? In-Reply-To: <87E891E6-9AE2-4132-990F-5AC346AD06DE@mac-access.net> References: <7AE15C44-C76C-407D-BFE0-8DC4778B07FB@btinternet.com> <87E891E6-9AE2-4132-990F-5AC346AD06DE@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <30AC78A3-FCA1-46D9-A3C6-EA6382646E4C@speedpost.net> Hi, I can't say I notice any difference. The sounds play underneath VO's voice in a lot of cases, so you hear both at the same time. That might be problematic if you have trouble processing more than one sound at once, but otherwise I'd say it's about the same either way. Yours, Zack. On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:13 PM, John Panarese wrote: > I don't notice a difference. At least, nothing I have really detected with my ears. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > >> Hi all, just have a simple question. >> >> When for those who use VO with the sounds, I was just simply wondering do you get quicker speech when not using them? Or is it the same amount of time either way. >> >> Hope this makes sense. >> >> If anyone wants me to explain further then I will try and do so. >> >> Thanks >> >> Daniel >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 00:19:07 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:19:07 -0500 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Hi, In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text document or something? Thanks, Courtney Sent from my macbook air On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > > Hi Annie, > > I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. > I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the Developer also keeps improving and adding features. > > I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. > > I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. > > The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so many features that you really need to take the time to read the documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use recorder and note taker. > > I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. > > You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. > > I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. > > Eric Caron > > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. >> >> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >> >> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> >> >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 00:24:55 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:24:55 +1100 Subject: Shortcut key for save as Message-ID: <-5177272393971922734@unknownmsgid> Can someone please tell me what is the shortcut key for save as in text edit. I know the shortcut key forr save is command plus S. Thanks for all your help. Margret Sent from my iPhone From moopiecurran at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 01:19:56 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:19:56 -0500 Subject: ipad keyboard case question Message-ID: Hi, What is the best keyboard/case for the ipad two? And do they sell any keyboard cases at the apple store? Thanks, Courtney Sent from my macbook air From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 03:13:03 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:13:03 -0800 Subject: Shortcut key for save as In-Reply-To: <-5177272393971922734@unknownmsgid> References: <-5177272393971922734@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <0DBFBEAA-B61F-4926-B6B7-DFE183EA9C3B@gmail.com> cmd shift s is save as in most apps. Take care. On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > Can someone please tell me what is the shortcut key for save as in > text edit. I know the shortcut key forr save is command plus S. Thanks > for all your help. > > Margret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 03:14:42 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:14:42 -0800 Subject: Voiceover sounds quicker getting info when off than on? In-Reply-To: <30AC78A3-FCA1-46D9-A3C6-EA6382646E4C@speedpost.net> References: <7AE15C44-C76C-407D-BFE0-8DC4778B07FB@btinternet.com> <87E891E6-9AE2-4132-990F-5AC346AD06DE@mac-access.net> <30AC78A3-FCA1-46D9-A3C6-EA6382646E4C@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <627DDDC0-3EBD-44CC-BF0D-B3B236A22FFA@gmail.com> It's slightly quicker in my opinion. and I hear a difference but I have to have sensitave ears for my field of study. lol! Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi, > I can't say I notice any difference. The sounds play underneath VO's voice in a lot of cases, so you hear both at the same time. That might be problematic if you have trouble processing more than one sound at once, but otherwise I'd say it's about the same either way. > Yours, > Zack. > On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:13 PM, John Panarese wrote: > >> I don't notice a difference. At least, nothing I have really detected with my ears. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: >> >>> Hi all, just have a simple question. >>> >>> When for those who use VO with the sounds, I was just simply wondering do you get quicker speech when not using them? Or is it the same amount of time either way. >>> >>> Hope this makes sense. >>> >>> If anyone wants me to explain further then I will try and do so. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Daniel >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 07:00:22 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 23:00:22 -0800 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <7F3BCDE7-75A1-424A-80B8-18143E2FEF34@gmail.com> I've never tried voxi or how ever it's spelled but i also hear that's good. Good luck and let us know how you make out, IE let us know what you decide with a recording program. On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text document or something? > Thanks, > Courtney > > > Sent from my macbook air > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> >> Hi Annie, >> >> I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. >> I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the Developer also keeps improving and adding features. >> >> I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. >> >> I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. >> >> The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so many features that you really need to take the time to read the documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use recorder and note taker. >> >> I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. >> >> You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. >> >> I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. >>> >>> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >>> >>> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Jan 19 12:15:58 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:15:58 +0000 Subject: Question about Apple Mail and imap In-Reply-To: <50F8A19F-D904-4B3D-B185-B64A8632F20F@gmail.com> References: <50F8A19F-D904-4B3D-B185-B64A8632F20F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55A09EBB-3AE8-4203-82E6-D8B8C98F82A0@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Sarah, Many thanks for your Email. Can you please expand a bit on what you say about server side filters and their benefits. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 12:33:10 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:33:10 -0500 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: <7F3BCDE7-75A1-424A-80B8-18143E2FEF34@gmail.com> References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> <7F3BCDE7-75A1-424A-80B8-18143E2FEF34@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, I use voxie recorder and it is very good for making recordings. Also list recorder is another powerful recorder and more! See links to them below. http://www.sixthmode.com/ http://www.bottlerocketapps.com/apps/voxie Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:00 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. I've never tried voxi or how ever it's spelled but i also hear that's good. Good luck and let us know how you make out, IE let us know what you decide with a recording program. On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text document or something? > Thanks, > Courtney > > > Sent from my macbook air > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> >> Hi Annie, >> >> I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. >> I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the Developer also keeps improving and adding features. >> >> I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. >> >> I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. >> >> The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so many features that you really need to take the time to read the documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use recorder and note taker. >> >> I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. >> >> You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. >> >> I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. >>> >>> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >>> >>> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 12:34:02 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:34:02 -0500 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: I think so Just use the help in the app to find out. But sure you can! Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:19 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. Hi, In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text document or something? Thanks, Courtney Sent from my macbook air On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > > Hi Annie, > > I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. > I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the Developer also keeps improving and adding features. > > I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. > > I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. > > The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so many features that you really need to take the time to read the documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use recorder and note taker. > > I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. > > You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. > > I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. > > Eric Caron > > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. >> >> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >> >> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> >> >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From anne at anarchie.org.uk Thu Jan 19 13:08:28 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:08:28 +0100 Subject: Shortcut key for save as In-Reply-To: <-5177272393971922734@unknownmsgid> References: <-5177272393971922734@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Hello Margaret, In Lion, the Save As command has gone. You have to use the Duplicate command which creates a copy of the file with the word Copy appended to the filename. You can then change the filename in the Finder. Cheers, Anne On 19 Jan 2012, at 01:24, Margaret Booth wrote: > Can someone please tell me what is the shortcut key for save as in > text edit. I know the shortcut key forr save is command plus S. Thanks > for all your help. > > Margret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 13:42:35 2012 From: sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com (Sadam Ahmed) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:42:35 +1100 Subject: Strange behaviour with money reader. Message-ID: <974806B0-653C-49F3-86A1-E3E9299B8329@gmail.com> Hi all, today I downloaded the money reader app on my iPhone 4S. Unfortunately when I run the app all I'm getting from voice-over is money reader running. All efforts to get information by taking a picture of a $20 Australian bill have failed. Is there something I'm missing here. Maybe someone can give me a hand with this one? Thank you kind regards. Sent from my iPhone From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 13:57:13 2012 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:57:13 +0100 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <39D66BDE-46A2-44B1-AC32-C70E83BF6FA2@gmail.com> Hi. Where do you find the setings in voxie? Best regards Annie. Den Jan 19, 2012 kl. 1:34 PM skrev Bubba: > I think so Just use the help in the app to find out. But sure you can! > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:19 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. > > Hi, > In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text > document or something? > Thanks, > Courtney > > > Sent from my macbook air > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> >> Hi Annie, >> >> I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best > are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. >> I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the > recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the > Developer also keeps improving and adding features. >> >> I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several > options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to > your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. >> >> I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick > recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also > I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List > recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with > both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. >> >> The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so > many features that you really need to take the time to read the > documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use > recorder and note taker. >> >> I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I > did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but > I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. >> >> You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. >> >> I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not > sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as > play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high > quality with external mic of course. >>> >>> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, > that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, > but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >>> >>> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 14:16:00 2012 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:16:00 +0100 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <38EBD24D-7EA0-4BC0-AF12-E2FE86A4396F@gmail.com> Hi. I have figured it out. Voxie is pritty good. Best regards Annie. Den Jan 19, 2012 kl. 1:34 PM skrev Bubba: > I think so Just use the help in the app to find out. But sure you can! > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:19 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. > > Hi, > In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text > document or something? > Thanks, > Courtney > > > Sent from my macbook air > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> >> Hi Annie, >> >> I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best > are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. >> I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the > recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the > Developer also keeps improving and adding features. >> >> I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several > options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to > your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. >> >> I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick > recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also > I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List > recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with > both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. >> >> The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so > many features that you really need to take the time to read the > documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use > recorder and note taker. >> >> I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I > did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but > I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. >> >> You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. >> >> I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not > sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as > play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high > quality with external mic of course. >>> >>> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, > that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, > but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >>> >>> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From 1smartdog at cox.net Thu Jan 19 15:47:58 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 09:47:58 -0600 Subject: Strange behaviour with money reader. References: <974806B0-653C-49F3-86A1-E3E9299B8329@gmail.com> Message-ID: <398C0387318C4829880EBE439E2FF3E9@karen796b6a58c> Hi there, it's easier than you are making it. All you have to do is, in a well lighted place, launch the app and position the back camera over the bill. Wait a few seconds and it will announce the denomination. Taking a picture is not necessary. It can take a second or two and there is no indication from the phone that it is working. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sadam Ahmed" To: Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:42 AM Subject: Strange behaviour with money reader. > Hi all, today I downloaded the money reader app on my iPhone 4S. > Unfortunately when I run the app all I'm getting from voice-over is money > reader running. All efforts to get information by taking a picture of a > $20 Australian bill have failed. Is there something I'm missing here. > Maybe someone can give me a hand with this one? Thank you kind regards. > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 16:01:02 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:01:02 -0800 Subject: Shortcut key for save as In-Reply-To: References: <-5177272393971922734@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <84D84067-D669-458D-AC43-38104F63F086@gmail.com> Actually in some of my programs and I'm running the king of beasts the cmd shift s works still like in text edit. I can't think of any other apps but just try it out and if you get a ding you know it failed. Take care all. On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:08 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Margaret, > > In Lion, the Save As command has gone. You have to use the Duplicate command which creates a copy of the file with the word Copy appended to the filename. You can then change the filename in the Finder. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 19 Jan 2012, at 01:24, Margaret Booth wrote: > >> Can someone please tell me what is the shortcut key for save as in >> text edit. I know the shortcut key forr save is command plus S. Thanks >> for all your help. >> >> Margret >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 16:02:56 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:02:56 -0800 Subject: Question about Apple Mail and imap In-Reply-To: <55A09EBB-3AE8-4203-82E6-D8B8C98F82A0@hopewell.org.uk> References: <50F8A19F-D904-4B3D-B185-B64A8632F20F@gmail.com> <55A09EBB-3AE8-4203-82E6-D8B8C98F82A0@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Basically your server side filters if you have multiple devices like I do will cause mail to go in to the server side mail boxes and you just download them or view then or what not in any device from anywhere . This works in mail but not sure in other email providers as I dunno if they can provide filters. On Jan 19, 2012, at 4:15 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Sarah, > Many thanks for your Email. Can you please expand a bit on what you say about server side filters and their benefits. > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Thu Jan 19 16:11:56 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:11:56 -1000 Subject: Using LookTel Money Reader for the first time [was Re: Strange behaviour with money reader.] In-Reply-To: <974806B0-653C-49F3-86A1-E3E9299B8329@gmail.com> References: <974806B0-653C-49F3-86A1-E3E9299B8329@gmail.com> Message-ID: <554C9FCE-4233-49EE-AC4E-2C513ABF728B@mac.com> Hello Sadam, When LookTel Money Reader starts up, the camera on your iPhone is immediately activated. There's maybe a 3 or 4 second pause before you hear "Money Reader Running". Once you get that message, any bills that are placed within view of your iPhone camera, and in sufficient light, will automatically be identified. I typically hold my iPhone 4 camera between 4 to 6 inches from the bills, for all currency (including Australian dollars). On the iPhone 4, and I believe this is also true for the iPhone 4S, the light on the camera will automatically come on if there is insufficient light to identify the bill. (This is not true for the iPhone 3GS -- you must first check that there is adequate lighting.) If you have not had any success with using this app, try the following: Place your bills in a flat stack in your left hand with the iPhone lying on top of them. The iPhone is in the normal orientation for use if you picked it up -- the touch screen is toward you and the home button is at the bottom. The long direction of the bills lies along the long direction of the iPhone, and the width of the bills is only slightly wider than the iPhone. You can have everything centered and lying flat on the palm of your hand. (If you are left handed you can make the same arrangement with your right hand.) Now, simply pick up the iPhone by gripping the sides of the device with your other hand, and lift it straight up from the palm of your hand about 4 or 5 inches. You should hear the app announce the amount, e.g., "10 dollars". VoiceOver will continue to repeat the denomination of the bill in the camera view. You can also use the app on bills that are on a flat surface, but I find it is easier to get a sense of the height and position if you first try this by holding iPhone in one hand and the laying the bills flat in the palm of your other hand. You can try moving the hand that holds the iPhone to different heights, and feel what's most comfortable for you, and how quickly the app responds to identifying the currency. OCR apps work best when you hold the camera fairly steady, at whatever height you raise it to, so when you experiment, first move to a position, then keep your hand in that position while the app runs. LookTel Money Reader should be able to identify currency regardless of which side of the bill is facing the camera, and it works fairly fast (e.g. tenths of seconds), so it will do pretty well even if you don't hold the iPhone camera steady. (However, you shouldn't try to deliberately wave the camera around so that it is never able to focus well on the money.) Since the app reads whatever currency is in the camera view, it's best to have only one bill visible at a time -- e.g. fanning out a number of bills with different denominations will only confuse things. You could place a stack of bills under the camera, then remove the top bill one by one, or you could simply place a sequence single bills under the view of the camera. Incidentally, LookTel money reader will read out currencies whether or not VoiceOver is running. It uses different voices for the different currencies, and they're just different from the VoiceOver voices. If you want to have the bills identified by tones instead of announcement (for more privacy), turn on the mute switch (along the left side of your iPhone, near the top -- it's the rectangular switch that you activate by pushing down.) You'll hear tones with different pitches. One dollar will be a single, low tone. Five dollars will be three low tones. Ten dollars is a single, high tone. Twenty is two high tones, etc. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 19, 2012, at 03:42, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > Hi all, today I downloaded the money reader app on my iPhone 4S. Unfortunately when I run the app all I'm getting from voice-over is money reader running. All efforts to get information by taking a picture of a $20 Australian bill have failed. Is there something I'm missing here. Maybe someone can give me a hand with this one? Thank you kind regards. > > Sent from my iPhone From sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 16:16:40 2012 From: sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com (Sadam Ahmed) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:16:40 +1100 Subject: Strange behaviour with money reader. In-Reply-To: <398C0387318C4829880EBE439E2FF3E9@karen796b6a58c> References: <974806B0-653C-49F3-86A1-E3E9299B8329@gmail.com> <398C0387318C4829880EBE439E2FF3E9@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: Thank you Karen. * looks foolish *. Good thing this list is about. :) thanks once again. Sadam. Sent from my iPhone On 20/01/2012, at 2:47 AM, "1SmartDog at cox.net" <1smartdog at cox.net> wrote: > Hi there, it's easier than you are making it. > > All you have to do is, in a well lighted place, launch the app and position the back camera over the bill. Wait a few seconds and it will announce the denomination. Taking a picture is not necessary. It can take a second or two and there is no indication from the phone that it is working. > > Karen > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sadam Ahmed" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:42 AM > Subject: Strange behaviour with money reader. > > >> Hi all, today I downloaded the money reader app on my iPhone 4S. Unfortunately when I run the app all I'm getting from voice-over is money reader running. All efforts to get information by taking a picture of a $20 Australian bill have failed. Is there something I'm missing here. Maybe someone can give me a hand with this one? Thank you kind regards. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Thu Jan 19 16:29:53 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:29:53 +1100 Subject: Strange behaviour with money reader. In-Reply-To: <974806B0-653C-49F3-86A1-E3E9299B8329@gmail.com> References: <974806B0-653C-49F3-86A1-E3E9299B8329@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3259CBAD-5D6B-49EC-B8F9-B3665FBFC372@bluebottle.com> hi there ok try taking app off phone and putting it back on again sometimes it doesn't like running with vo i had to do this once too then now it works all the time smiles On 20/01/2012, at 12:42 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > Hi all, today I downloaded the money reader app on my iPhone 4S. Unfortunately when I run the app all I'm getting from voice-over is money reader running. All efforts to get information by taking a picture of a $20 Australian bill have failed. Is there something I'm missing here. Maybe someone can give me a hand with this one? Thank you kind regards. > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 16:26:17 2012 From: sadamahmed1992 at gmail.com (Sadam Ahmed) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:26:17 +1100 Subject: Using LookTel Money Reader for the first time [was Re: Strange behaviour with money reader.] In-Reply-To: <554C9FCE-4233-49EE-AC4E-2C513ABF728B@mac.com> References: <974806B0-653C-49F3-86A1-E3E9299B8329@gmail.com> <554C9FCE-4233-49EE-AC4E-2C513ABF728B@mac.com> Message-ID: <7F800B8E-A161-4CBA-9768-49C0E1D147CB@gmail.com> Thanks for those tips. :) Sent from my iPhone On 20/01/2012, at 3:11 AM, Esther wrote: > Hello Sadam, > > When LookTel Money Reader starts up, the camera on your iPhone is immediately activated. There's maybe a 3 or 4 second pause before you hear "Money Reader Running". Once you get that message, any bills that are placed within view of your iPhone camera, and in sufficient light, will automatically be identified. I typically hold my iPhone 4 camera between 4 to 6 inches from the bills, for all currency (including Australian dollars). On the iPhone 4, and I believe this is also true for the iPhone 4S, the light on the camera will automatically come on if there is insufficient light to identify the bill. (This is not true for the iPhone 3GS -- you must first check that there is adequate lighting.) > > If you have not had any success with using this app, try the following: Place your bills in a flat stack in your left hand with the iPhone lying on top of them. The iPhone is in the normal orientation for use if you picked it up -- the touch screen is toward you and the home button is at the bottom. The long direction of the bills lies along the long direction of the iPhone, and the width of the bills is only slightly wider than the iPhone. You can have everything centered and lying flat on the palm of your hand. (If you are left handed you can make the same arrangement with your right hand.) > > Now, simply pick up the iPhone by gripping the sides of the device with your other hand, and lift it straight up from the palm of your hand about 4 or 5 inches. You should hear the app announce the amount, e.g., "10 dollars". VoiceOver will continue to repeat the denomination of the bill in the camera view. You can also use the app on bills that are on a flat surface, but I find it is easier to get a sense of the height and position if you first try this by holding iPhone in one hand and the laying the bills flat in the palm of your other hand. You can try moving the hand that holds the iPhone to different heights, and feel what's most comfortable for you, and how quickly the app responds to identifying the currency. > > OCR apps work best when you hold the camera fairly steady, at whatever height you raise it to, so when you experiment, first move to a position, then keep your hand in that position while the app runs. LookTel Money Reader should be able to identify currency regardless of which side of the bill is facing the camera, and it works fairly fast (e.g. tenths of seconds), so it will do pretty well even if you don't hold the iPhone camera steady. (However, you shouldn't try to deliberately wave the camera around so that it is never able to focus well on the money.) > > Since the app reads whatever currency is in the camera view, it's best to have only one bill visible at a time -- e.g. fanning out a number of bills with different denominations will only confuse things. You could place a stack of bills under the camera, then remove the top bill one by one, or you could simply place a sequence single bills under the view of the camera. > > Incidentally, LookTel money reader will read out currencies whether or not VoiceOver is running. It uses different voices for the different currencies, and they're just different from the VoiceOver voices. If you want to have the bills identified by tones instead of announcement (for more privacy), turn on the mute switch (along the left side of your iPhone, near the top -- it's the rectangular switch that you activate by pushing down.) You'll hear tones with different pitches. One dollar will be a single, low tone. Five dollars will be three low tones. Ten dollars is a single, high tone. Twenty is two high tones, etc. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Jan 19, 2012, at 03:42, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > >> Hi all, today I downloaded the money reader app on my iPhone 4S. Unfortunately when I run the app all I'm getting from voice-over is money reader running. All efforts to get information by taking a picture of a $20 Australian bill have failed. Is there something I'm missing here. Maybe someone can give me a hand with this one? Thank you kind regards. >> >> Sent from my iPhone > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > thanks Esther. Will give those tips a go. :) From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Jan 19 16:45:19 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:45:19 +0000 Subject: Backing up iCal calendarsw Message-ID: Hello, I have recently lost my calendar and had to recreate it from scratch. that was tedious and error prone! I thus now want to periodically backup my iCal calendar (I only have one) so that I can restore it in case of disaster. So I tried to export the calendar but the resultant file is suspiciously small (203 bytes) and so cannot contain my entire calendar. I also tried select all before exporting the calendar but that made no difference. I am sure I did this in the past and it all resulted in a largish file. Possibly relevant is that I am now using icloud to sync my iMac and iPhone calendars. I did not do that in the past. So how can I backup my complete set of calendars so that I can restore them in case of disaster? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Thu Jan 19 16:51:42 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:51:42 +1100 Subject: Using LookTel Money Reader for the first time [was Re: Strange behaviour with money reader.] In-Reply-To: <7F800B8E-A161-4CBA-9768-49C0E1D147CB@gmail.com> References: <974806B0-653C-49F3-86A1-E3E9299B8329@gmail.com> <554C9FCE-4233-49EE-AC4E-2C513ABF728B@mac.com> <7F800B8E-A161-4CBA-9768-49C0E1D147CB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <85069388-EE4D-4F04-82E5-AFEC040C8372@bluebottle.com> thanks for the tips and nicely explained will help me to you could be a teacher you do explain things well so people can understand them smiles its straight to the point with good words not big words that are hard to know what they mean nice job smiles On 20/01/2012, at 3:26 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > Thanks for those tips. :) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 20/01/2012, at 3:11 AM, Esther wrote: > >> Hello Sadam, >> >> When LookTel Money Reader starts up, the camera on your iPhone is immediately activated. There's maybe a 3 or 4 second pause before you hear "Money Reader Running". Once you get that message, any bills that are placed within view of your iPhone camera, and in sufficient light, will automatically be identified. I typically hold my iPhone 4 camera between 4 to 6 inches from the bills, for all currency (including Australian dollars). On the iPhone 4, and I believe this is also true for the iPhone 4S, the light on the camera will automatically come on if there is insufficient light to identify the bill. (This is not true for the iPhone 3GS -- you must first check that there is adequate lighting.) >> >> If you have not had any success with using this app, try the following: Place your bills in a flat stack in your left hand with the iPhone lying on top of them. The iPhone is in the normal orientation for use if you picked it up -- the touch screen is toward you and the home button is at the bottom. The long direction of the bills lies along the long direction of the iPhone, and the width of the bills is only slightly wider than the iPhone. You can have everything centered and lying flat on the palm of your hand. (If you are left handed you can make the same arrangement with your right hand.) >> >> Now, simply pick up the iPhone by gripping the sides of the device with your other hand, and lift it straight up from the palm of your hand about 4 or 5 inches. You should hear the app announce the amount, e.g., "10 dollars". VoiceOver will continue to repeat the denomination of the bill in the camera view. You can also use the app on bills that are on a flat surface, but I find it is easier to get a sense of the height and position if you first try this by holding iPhone in one hand and the laying the bills flat in the palm of your other hand. You can try moving the hand that holds the iPhone to different heights, and feel what's most comfortable for you, and how quickly the app responds to identifying the currency. >> >> OCR apps work best when you hold the camera fairly steady, at whatever height you raise it to, so when you experiment, first move to a position, then keep your hand in that position while the app runs. LookTel Money Reader should be able to identify currency regardless of which side of the bill is facing the camera, and it works fairly fast (e.g. tenths of seconds), so it will do pretty well even if you don't hold the iPhone camera steady. (However, you shouldn't try to deliberately wave the camera around so that it is never able to focus well on the money.) >> >> Since the app reads whatever currency is in the camera view, it's best to have only one bill visible at a time -- e.g. fanning out a number of bills with different denominations will only confuse things. You could place a stack of bills under the camera, then remove the top bill one by one, or you could simply place a sequence single bills under the view of the camera. >> >> Incidentally, LookTel money reader will read out currencies whether or not VoiceOver is running. It uses different voices for the different currencies, and they're just different from the VoiceOver voices. If you want to have the bills identified by tones instead of announcement (for more privacy), turn on the mute switch (along the left side of your iPhone, near the top -- it's the rectangular switch that you activate by pushing down.) You'll hear tones with different pitches. One dollar will be a single, low tone. Five dollars will be three low tones. Ten dollars is a single, high tone. Twenty is two high tones, etc. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> On Jan 19, 2012, at 03:42, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >> >>> Hi all, today I downloaded the money reader app on my iPhone 4S. Unfortunately when I run the app all I'm getting from voice-over is money reader running. All efforts to get information by taking a picture of a $20 Australian bill have failed. Is there something I'm missing here. Maybe someone can give me a hand with this one? Thank you kind regards. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> thanks Esther. Will give those tips a go. :) > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 17:03:47 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 09:03:47 -0800 Subject: Backing up iCal calendarsw In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <858EAA2A-0672-4A7D-BEB0-40BF08602A57@gmail.com> go to file, export and export the file as a ICal bacvk up. I do this every week or so as I'm having issues wiht my ical and creating events. Take care all. On Jan 19, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I have recently lost my calendar and had to recreate it from scratch. that was tedious and error prone! I thus now want to periodically backup my iCal calendar (I only have one) so that I can restore it in case of disaster. So I tried to export the calendar but the resultant file is suspiciously small (203 bytes) and so cannot contain my entire calendar. I also tried select all before exporting the calendar but that made no difference. > > I am sure I did this in the past and it all resulted in a largish file. > > Possibly relevant is that I am now using icloud to sync my iMac and iPhone calendars. I did not do that in the past. > > So how can I backup my complete set of calendars so that I can restore them in case of disaster? > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From venables134 at btinternet.com Thu Jan 19 18:10:36 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:10:36 +0000 Subject: Voiceover sounds quicker getting info when off than on? In-Reply-To: <30AC78A3-FCA1-46D9-A3C6-EA6382646E4C@speedpost.net> References: <7AE15C44-C76C-407D-BFE0-8DC4778B07FB@btinternet.com> <87E891E6-9AE2-4132-990F-5AC346AD06DE@mac-access.net> <30AC78A3-FCA1-46D9-A3C6-EA6382646E4C@speedpost.net> Message-ID: Hi John and Zack, thanks for both your answers. If VO is already talking when sounds are heard then I guess that's cool. My only problem and I hope that someone can explain when it is done is to do with loading webpages. Basically I have VO announce the page loading process. So for example VO will say "76.9" then "86.2". those are just random figures. Well when VO stops announcing them, I don't really know when the page is fully loaded. I also have the web summary checked check box checked so VO tells me how many headings and links etc to my liking announced as well. This is fine but now and then I don't get this so if the percentages and the headings links don't get announced when loading a page if there any command one can use to check to see if the page is still loading or fully loaded. Its probably an obvious answer when one says it but I'd like to know anyway despite that. Thanks Daniel On 19 Jan 2012, at 00:15, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi, > I can't say I notice any difference. The sounds play underneath VO's voice in a lot of cases, so you hear both at the same time. That might be problematic if you have trouble processing more than one sound at once, but otherwise I'd say it's about the same either way. > Yours, > Zack. > On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:13 PM, John Panarese wrote: > >> I don't notice a difference. At least, nothing I have really detected with my ears. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: >> >>> Hi all, just have a simple question. >>> >>> When for those who use VO with the sounds, I was just simply wondering do you get quicker speech when not using them? Or is it the same amount of time either way. >>> >>> Hope this makes sense. >>> >>> If anyone wants me to explain further then I will try and do so. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Daniel >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jpanarese at mac-access.net Thu Jan 19 18:20:27 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:20:27 -0500 Subject: Voiceover sounds quicker getting info when off than on? In-Reply-To: References: <7AE15C44-C76C-407D-BFE0-8DC4778B07FB@btinternet.com> <87E891E6-9AE2-4132-990F-5AC346AD06DE@mac-access.net> <30AC78A3-FCA1-46D9-A3C6-EA6382646E4C@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <9C05832B-074E-45D9-BCAB-C99BBDC75406@mac-access.net> I actually changed the web loading to sounds only. I never trusted the percent announced, but that's just my craziness. Sometimes, you are not informed when a site fully loads. I am sure the more technically knowledgeable can explain that, but I simply give sites a few seconds if I do not have an indication that they have loaded. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Jan 19, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > Hi John and Zack, thanks for both your answers. > If VO is already talking when sounds are heard then I guess that's cool. My only problem and I hope that someone can explain when it is done is to do with loading webpages. > > Basically I have VO announce the page loading process. So for example VO will say "76.9" then "86.2". those are just random figures. Well when VO stops announcing them, I don't really know when the page is fully loaded. I also have the web summary checked check box checked so VO tells me how many headings and links etc to my liking announced as well. This is fine but now and then I don't get this so if the percentages and the headings links don't get announced when loading a page if there any command one can use to check to see if the page is still loading or fully loaded. > Its probably an obvious answer when one says it but I'd like to know anyway despite that. > > Thanks > > Daniel > On 19 Jan 2012, at 00:15, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi, >> I can't say I notice any difference. The sounds play underneath VO's voice in a lot of cases, so you hear both at the same time. That might be problematic if you have trouble processing more than one sound at once, but otherwise I'd say it's about the same either way. >> Yours, >> Zack. >> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:13 PM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> I don't notice a difference. At least, nothing I have really detected with my ears. >>> >>> Take Care >>> John Panarese >>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, just have a simple question. >>>> >>>> When for those who use VO with the sounds, I was just simply wondering do you get quicker speech when not using them? Or is it the same amount of time either way. >>>> >>>> Hope this makes sense. >>>> >>>> If anyone wants me to explain further then I will try and do so. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Thu Jan 19 18:54:58 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:54:58 -0500 Subject: Apple's new "iBooks Author" Mac App Message-ID: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> Hello All, I'm interested to hear from folks if and when you get a chance to poke around in the new free "iBooks Author" Mac App released by Apple today. At first glance, it seems like a bit of a cross between a word processor and a full page layout program. I've only spent an hour or two with it so far but was happy to find that VO could find and interact with almost all elements and, in fact, I was able to create a new document and insert a table and it was nicely accessible to VO.. That's right: the process of creating the table, the process of making changes to the table, and the process of navigating the table all seemed to be VO accessible. If you're familiar with using the Inspector in Pages, try creating a table in this new app and then use the Inspector to play around with it. Pretty nice stuff. Of course, a couple of tables do not a document make, but perhaps the other page elements are equally accessible. While Apple is touting the app as a textbook creation tool designed to produce documents for consumption through the iBooks 2 App on an iPad, it does sound like there might be a way to save or export your creation in a format that is readable outside of iBooks. I exported their default document to PDF and the result seemed to be readable in Preview. The App seems targeted for the creation of media-rich interactive e-books, and there are tools for inserting all kinds of stuff that one might assume would be difficult for a reader to access, but I found this hopeful note in Apple's App Store description: "? Add accessibility descriptions to any widget so that it can be used by sight-impaired readers easily with VoiceOver." The app is free and available now in the Mac App store, at least here in the US,. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ibooks-author/id490152466?mt=12 Cheers, Bryan From moriond at mac.com Thu Jan 19 18:59:34 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:59:34 -1000 Subject: Apple's new "iBooks Author" Mac App In-Reply-To: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> References: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> Message-ID: <90E22E47-B60B-4367-9518-ED29D3BD9686@mac.com> Hi Bryan, I did try to take a look at this, but the app requires that you be running Lion. Cheers, Esther On Jan 19, 2012, at 08:54, Bryan Jones wrote: > > I'm interested to hear from folks if and when you get a chance to poke around in the new free "iBooks Author" Mac App released by Apple today. > > The app is free and available now in the Mac App store, at least here in the US,. > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ibooks-author/id490152466?mt=12 > > Cheers, > Bryan > From christoap at sky.com Thu Jan 19 19:26:54 2012 From: christoap at sky.com (Christo Thiardt) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:26:54 +0000 Subject: Simple questions from a Beginner In-Reply-To: <334F3931-D5DF-46FA-AD9C-E24B17251834@anarchie.org.uk> References: <3B382172-9B09-4FA7-8A14-481012B8530A@sky.com> <334F3931-D5DF-46FA-AD9C-E24B17251834@anarchie.org.uk> Message-ID: <454BC1AE-7879-429C-B766-9B988741691D@sky.com> Hi Anne thank you for your suggestions. The cmd F Find command certainly highlights the sought test but I find that the VO cursor is actually nowhere near the actual word. Am I doing something wrong? As for the attachment issue: the RNIB mailed the attachment as PDF file and Adobe is not on my Mac as yet or, at least, I assume this is the problem as it merely says @mail busy@ and does not want to do anything else after cmd-y command. I have to "force quit" and this is a messy business! Any wisdom appreciated! Christo On 14 Jan 2012, at 17:39, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Christo, > > In TextEdit, you need to be interacting with the text area for the VO Find command to work. If you're using the standard Find command, then you have to switch windows to be back in the text where the result is highlighted. > > As for attachments in Mail, you can interact with the message body and position yourself on the attachment, then do Command-y for Quick Look. Or you can save the attachment by interacting with the message headers and navigating right to the Save button. Press VO-Space to open this menu and press Return to select the option you want. You'll be in a dialogue box where you can choose what to call the item and where to put it. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 14 Jan 2012, at 16:12, Christo Thiardt wrote: > >> Dear SomeOne >> >> I am struggling to get the Find Command to work in Text Edit. No matter what I do I cannot get it to find the text looked for even though it is clearly visible. (I tried exploring case sensitivity.) >> >> Secondly, how do I "click" on an attachment in Mail to open it? >> >> I would really appreciate some wisdom on the above. >> >> Many thanks in anticipation >> >> Sincerely >> >> Christo >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 19:27:46 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:27:46 -0500 Subject: Apple's new "iBooks Author" Mac App In-Reply-To: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> References: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> Message-ID: I have the app; I haven't played with it much, ut my first thoguht was, wow! A way to create books and sell the mint he iBooks store! I know it's meant for textbooks, but I don't see why it can't be used to make other kinds of books. Short stories, novels, whatever. I noticed a couple of unlabeled buttons, but I guess we'll figure those out n time. Jane On Jan 19, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello All, > > I'm interested to hear from folks if and when you get a chance to poke around in the new free "iBooks Author" Mac App released by Apple today. > > At first glance, it seems like a bit of a cross between a word processor and a full page layout program. I've only spent an hour or two with it so far but was happy to find that VO could find and interact with almost all elements and, in fact, I was able to create a new document and insert a table and it was nicely accessible to VO.. That's right: the process of creating the table, the process of making changes to the table, and the process of navigating the table all seemed to be VO accessible. If you're familiar with using the Inspector in Pages, try creating a table in this new app and then use the Inspector to play around with it. Pretty nice stuff. Of course, a couple of tables do not a document make, but perhaps the other page elements are equally accessible. > > While Apple is touting the app as a textbook creation tool designed to produce documents for consumption through the iBooks 2 App on an iPad, it does sound like there might be a way to save or export your creation in a format that is readable outside of iBooks. I exported their default document to PDF and the result seemed to be readable in Preview. > > The App seems targeted for the creation of media-rich interactive e-books, and there are tools for inserting all kinds of stuff that one might assume would be difficult for a reader to access, but I found this hopeful note in Apple's App Store description: "? Add accessibility descriptions to any widget so that it can be used by sight-impaired readers easily with VoiceOver." > > The app is free and available now in the Mac App store, at least here in the US,. > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ibooks-author/id490152466?mt=12 > > Cheers, > Bryan > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From venables134 at btinternet.com Thu Jan 19 19:33:11 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:33:11 +0000 Subject: Voiceover sounds quicker getting info when off than on? In-Reply-To: <9C05832B-074E-45D9-BCAB-C99BBDC75406@mac-access.net> References: <7AE15C44-C76C-407D-BFE0-8DC4778B07FB@btinternet.com> <87E891E6-9AE2-4132-990F-5AC346AD06DE@mac-access.net> <30AC78A3-FCA1-46D9-A3C6-EA6382646E4C@speedpost.net> <9C05832B-074E-45D9-BCAB-C99BBDC75406@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <3F78AA2D-F415-4FC1-B1FC-69CD5FDCC1A0@btinternet.com> John, a question for you. If one turns off the VO sounds but you had VO still announcing the page loading by tone, don't you get any sound? In other words if the vo sounds are turned on does the sound "web area loaded" get announced when loading a new webpage. The reason I'm asking is because some of those sounds can be so quick and some so silent and because of my hearing impairment, I don't always hear certain sounds. So am checking if its a default thing that happens regardless of VO sounds being on off. Thanks Daniel On 19 Jan 2012, at 18:20, John Panarese wrote: > I actually changed the web loading to sounds only. I never trusted the percent announced, but that's just my craziness. > > Sometimes, you are not informed when a site fully loads. I am sure the more technically knowledgeable can explain that, but I simply give sites a few seconds if I do not have an indication that they have loaded. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Jan 19, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > >> Hi John and Zack, thanks for both your answers. >> If VO is already talking when sounds are heard then I guess that's cool. My only problem and I hope that someone can explain when it is done is to do with loading webpages. >> >> Basically I have VO announce the page loading process. So for example VO will say "76.9" then "86.2". those are just random figures. Well when VO stops announcing them, I don't really know when the page is fully loaded. I also have the web summary checked check box checked so VO tells me how many headings and links etc to my liking announced as well. This is fine but now and then I don't get this so if the percentages and the headings links don't get announced when loading a page if there any command one can use to check to see if the page is still loading or fully loaded. >> Its probably an obvious answer when one says it but I'd like to know anyway despite that. >> >> Thanks >> >> Daniel >> On 19 Jan 2012, at 00:15, Zachary Kline wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I can't say I notice any difference. The sounds play underneath VO's voice in a lot of cases, so you hear both at the same time. That might be problematic if you have trouble processing more than one sound at once, but otherwise I'd say it's about the same either way. >>> Yours, >>> Zack. >>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:13 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>>> I don't notice a difference. At least, nothing I have really detected with my ears. >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> John Panarese >>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, just have a simple question. >>>>> >>>>> When for those who use VO with the sounds, I was just simply wondering do you get quicker speech when not using them? Or is it the same amount of time either way. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this makes sense. >>>>> >>>>> If anyone wants me to explain further then I will try and do so. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Daniel >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Jan 19 19:54:47 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:54:47 +0000 Subject: Backing up iCal calendarsw In-Reply-To: <858EAA2A-0672-4A7D-BEB0-40BF08602A57@gmail.com> References: <858EAA2A-0672-4A7D-BEB0-40BF08602A57@gmail.com> Message-ID: <226C2800-7B62-4FD9-AC47-9AF1719A49DD@hopewell.org.uk> Hi Sarah, That is what I did but the resultant calendar backup file is only 203 bytes which is not big enough to include all my calendar entries. I thus wonder if is just the calendar day I am looking at. That is why I did a select all before the calendar export but that made no difference. Am I missing some preference option or the like? Are you using icloud to sync your iCal with some other device? Exporting of a calendar may work differently if icloud is involved. The other possibility is that as an Apple developer I am running a prerelease level of Mac OS which might have iCal problems. Re your other Email about imap. I have discovered that gmail offers a facility to forward mail it receives on an account to some other Email address while leaving the original Email unchanged on the gmail account. That means I can forward all my wife's Email to my Email address and move or delete it freely with no effect at all on what my wife does with it (and vice versa). All the best.... Paul Hopewell On 19 Jan 2012, at 17:03, Sarah Alawami wrote: > go to file, export and export the file as a ICal bacvk up. I do this every week or so as I'm having issues wiht my ical and creating events. > > Take care all. > On Jan 19, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I have recently lost my calendar and had to recreate it from scratch. that was tedious and error prone! I thus now want to periodically backup my iCal calendar (I only have one) so that I can restore it in case of disaster. So I tried to export the calendar but the resultant file is suspiciously small (203 bytes) and so cannot contain my entire calendar. I also tried select all before exporting the calendar but that made no difference. >> >> I am sure I did this in the past and it all resulted in a largish file. >> >> Possibly relevant is that I am now using icloud to sync my iMac and iPhone calendars. I did not do that in the past. >> >> So how can I backup my complete set of calendars so that I can restore them in case of disaster? >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From lyewchan at telus.net Thu Jan 19 20:01:52 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:01:52 -0800 Subject: files Message-ID: <7F084E84-D342-4464-803F-F3550A5427A7@telus.net> HI there. How do I delete a file I've tried to drag and drop to the recycle bin but sometimes it says it is not dragable and other times there is still a copy in the original area still. And if I am in edit txt program how do I save a file but not get many of the same file if it was once saed already. Sorry still don't understand spell check in mail. THanks for any help. Lovette From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Thu Jan 19 20:24:19 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:24:19 +0000 Subject: Problem with multiple calendars on iCal Message-ID: <7FCF59EE-36E5-4663-9FE9-18C0501E6730@hopewell.org.uk> Hello All, Through historical accident I seem to have two calendars on iCal one called calendar and the other called home. The home calendar is the default calendar and I think includes most of the entries. Unfortunately when I try to export my iCal it seems to only export the calendar called calendar. I do not really want to have two calendars. Is there any way I can merge them so that all my calendar entries are in the home calendar and I can then delete the calendar calendar. As I suspect there are only a very few entries in the calendar calendar I don't mind if there is a solution whereby I can view the contents of the calendar calendar and manually enter them into the home calendar. Many thanks for any inspiration in this area. Paul Hopewell From jpanarese at mac-access.net Thu Jan 19 20:49:03 2012 From: jpanarese at mac-access.net (John Panarese) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:49:03 -0500 Subject: Voiceover sounds quicker getting info when off than on? In-Reply-To: <3F78AA2D-F415-4FC1-B1FC-69CD5FDCC1A0@btinternet.com> References: <7AE15C44-C76C-407D-BFE0-8DC4778B07FB@btinternet.com> <87E891E6-9AE2-4132-990F-5AC346AD06DE@mac-access.net> <30AC78A3-FCA1-46D9-A3C6-EA6382646E4C@speedpost.net> <9C05832B-074E-45D9-BCAB-C99BBDC75406@mac-access.net> <3F78AA2D-F415-4FC1-B1FC-69CD5FDCC1A0@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <0F9406B1-BA72-4420-811D-045DFD3F6DC5@mac-access.net> If the VO sounds are muted, you don't get any tones at all. Just the speech feedback. Take Care John Panarese jpanarese at mac-access.net On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > John, a question for you. If one turns off the VO sounds but you had VO still announcing the page loading by tone, don't you get any sound? > In other words if the vo sounds are turned on does the sound "web area loaded" get announced when loading a new webpage. > > The reason I'm asking is because some of those sounds can be so quick and some so silent and because of my hearing impairment, I don't always hear certain sounds. So am checking if its a default thing that happens regardless of VO sounds being on off. > > Thanks > > Daniel > On 19 Jan 2012, at 18:20, John Panarese wrote: > >> I actually changed the web loading to sounds only. I never trusted the percent announced, but that's just my craziness. >> >> Sometimes, you are not informed when a site fully loads. I am sure the more technically knowledgeable can explain that, but I simply give sites a few seconds if I do not have an indication that they have loaded. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> jpanarese at mac-access.net >> >> >> >> On Jan 19, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: >> >>> Hi John and Zack, thanks for both your answers. >>> If VO is already talking when sounds are heard then I guess that's cool. My only problem and I hope that someone can explain when it is done is to do with loading webpages. >>> >>> Basically I have VO announce the page loading process. So for example VO will say "76.9" then "86.2". those are just random figures. Well when VO stops announcing them, I don't really know when the page is fully loaded. I also have the web summary checked check box checked so VO tells me how many headings and links etc to my liking announced as well. This is fine but now and then I don't get this so if the percentages and the headings links don't get announced when loading a page if there any command one can use to check to see if the page is still loading or fully loaded. >>> Its probably an obvious answer when one says it but I'd like to know anyway despite that. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Daniel >>> On 19 Jan 2012, at 00:15, Zachary Kline wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I can't say I notice any difference. The sounds play underneath VO's voice in a lot of cases, so you hear both at the same time. That might be problematic if you have trouble processing more than one sound at once, but otherwise I'd say it's about the same either way. >>>> Yours, >>>> Zack. >>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:13 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't notice a difference. At least, nothing I have really detected with my ears. >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> John Panarese >>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, just have a simple question. >>>>>> >>>>>> When for those who use VO with the sounds, I was just simply wondering do you get quicker speech when not using them? Or is it the same amount of time either way. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this makes sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> If anyone wants me to explain further then I will try and do so. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 21:46:42 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:46:42 -0800 Subject: files In-Reply-To: <7F084E84-D342-4464-803F-F3550A5427A7@telus.net> References: <7F084E84-D342-4464-803F-F3550A5427A7@telus.net> Message-ID: <38A3B1C2-67AE-4C51-8901-D0F9D5FA1843@gmail.com> Just hit cmd backspace to move to trash. To empty cmd shift back space. Now I can't remember as my hands just do the keystrokes. lol! Take care. On Jan 19, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > HI there. How do I delete a file > I've tried to drag and drop to the recycle bin but sometimes it says it is not dragable and other times there is still a copy in the original area still. > And if I am in edit txt program how do I save a file but not get many of the same file if it was once saed already. > Sorry still don't understand spell check in mail. > THanks for any help. > Lovette > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From venables134 at btinternet.com Thu Jan 19 21:44:54 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:44:54 +0000 Subject: Voiceover sounds quicker getting info when off than on? In-Reply-To: <0F9406B1-BA72-4420-811D-045DFD3F6DC5@mac-access.net> References: <7AE15C44-C76C-407D-BFE0-8DC4778B07FB@btinternet.com> <87E891E6-9AE2-4132-990F-5AC346AD06DE@mac-access.net> <30AC78A3-FCA1-46D9-A3C6-EA6382646E4C@speedpost.net> <9C05832B-074E-45D9-BCAB-C99BBDC75406@mac-access.net> <3F78AA2D-F415-4FC1-B1FC-69CD5FDCC1A0@btinternet.com> <0F9406B1-BA72-4420-811D-045DFD3F6DC5@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <923385CC-AB79-4894-A50F-BB3AB16D1270@btinternet.com> Cool thanks for the clarity. Daniel On 19 Jan 2012, at 20:49, John Panarese wrote: > If the VO sounds are muted, you don't get any tones at all. Just the speech feedback. > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanarese at mac-access.net > > > > On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > >> John, a question for you. If one turns off the VO sounds but you had VO still announcing the page loading by tone, don't you get any sound? >> In other words if the vo sounds are turned on does the sound "web area loaded" get announced when loading a new webpage. >> >> The reason I'm asking is because some of those sounds can be so quick and some so silent and because of my hearing impairment, I don't always hear certain sounds. So am checking if its a default thing that happens regardless of VO sounds being on off. >> >> Thanks >> >> Daniel >> On 19 Jan 2012, at 18:20, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> I actually changed the web loading to sounds only. I never trusted the percent announced, but that's just my craziness. >>> >>> Sometimes, you are not informed when a site fully loads. I am sure the more technically knowledgeable can explain that, but I simply give sites a few seconds if I do not have an indication that they have loaded. >>> >>> Take Care >>> John Panarese >>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: >>> >>>> Hi John and Zack, thanks for both your answers. >>>> If VO is already talking when sounds are heard then I guess that's cool. My only problem and I hope that someone can explain when it is done is to do with loading webpages. >>>> >>>> Basically I have VO announce the page loading process. So for example VO will say "76.9" then "86.2". those are just random figures. Well when VO stops announcing them, I don't really know when the page is fully loaded. I also have the web summary checked check box checked so VO tells me how many headings and links etc to my liking announced as well. This is fine but now and then I don't get this so if the percentages and the headings links don't get announced when loading a page if there any command one can use to check to see if the page is still loading or fully loaded. >>>> Its probably an obvious answer when one says it but I'd like to know anyway despite that. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> On 19 Jan 2012, at 00:15, Zachary Kline wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I can't say I notice any difference. The sounds play underneath VO's voice in a lot of cases, so you hear both at the same time. That might be problematic if you have trouble processing more than one sound at once, but otherwise I'd say it's about the same either way. >>>>> Yours, >>>>> Zack. >>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:13 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't notice a difference. At least, nothing I have really detected with my ears. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take Care >>>>>> John Panarese >>>>>> jpanarese at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, just have a simple question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When for those who use VO with the sounds, I was just simply wondering do you get quicker speech when not using them? Or is it the same amount of time either way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this makes sense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If anyone wants me to explain further then I will try and do so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 21:51:12 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:51:12 -0800 Subject: Backing up iCal calendarsw In-Reply-To: <226C2800-7B62-4FD9-AC47-9AF1719A49DD@hopewell.org.uk> References: <858EAA2A-0672-4A7D-BEB0-40BF08602A57@gmail.com> <226C2800-7B62-4FD9-AC47-9AF1719A49DD@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <057F0644-F2AC-463D-88D6-7AFCE1083917@gmail.com> Strange? it works for me. I dunno why it would only export what you have selected. Take care. On Jan 19, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Sarah, > That is what I did but the resultant calendar backup file is only 203 bytes which is not big enough to include all my calendar entries. I thus wonder if is just the calendar day I am looking at. That is why I did a select all before the calendar export but that made no difference. Am I missing some preference option or the like? > > Are you using icloud to sync your iCal with some other device? Exporting of a calendar may work differently if icloud is involved. The other possibility is that as an Apple developer I am running a prerelease level of Mac OS which might have iCal problems. > > Re your other Email about imap. I have discovered that gmail offers a facility to forward mail it receives on an account to some other Email address while leaving the original Email unchanged on the gmail account. That means I can forward all my wife's Email to my Email address and move or delete it freely with no effect at all on what my wife does with it (and vice versa). > > All the best.... > > Paul Hopewell > On 19 Jan 2012, at 17:03, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> go to file, export and export the file as a ICal bacvk up. I do this every week or so as I'm having issues wiht my ical and creating events. >> >> Take care all. >> On Jan 19, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I have recently lost my calendar and had to recreate it from scratch. that was tedious and error prone! I thus now want to periodically backup my iCal calendar (I only have one) so that I can restore it in case of disaster. So I tried to export the calendar but the resultant file is suspiciously small (203 bytes) and so cannot contain my entire calendar. I also tried select all before exporting the calendar but that made no difference. >>> >>> I am sure I did this in the past and it all resulted in a largish file. >>> >>> Possibly relevant is that I am now using icloud to sync my iMac and iPhone calendars. I did not do that in the past. >>> >>> So how can I backup my complete set of calendars so that I can restore them in case of disaster? >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Thu Jan 19 22:05:03 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:05:03 -0500 Subject: Problem with multiple calendars on iCal In-Reply-To: <7FCF59EE-36E5-4663-9FE9-18C0501E6730@hopewell.org.uk> References: <7FCF59EE-36E5-4663-9FE9-18C0501E6730@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Paul, The following link is to an older Macworld article that explains how to merge two ical calendars. I've never tried this myself but assume it it will work in Lion Mail. http://www.macworld.com/article/54668/2007/01/mergecalendars.html HTH, Bryan On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Through historical accident I seem to have two calendars on iCal one called calendar and the other called home. The home calendar is the default calendar and I think includes most of the entries. Unfortunately when I try to export my iCal it seems to only export the calendar called calendar. > > I do not really want to have two calendars. Is there any way I can merge them so that all my calendar entries are in the home calendar and I can then delete the calendar calendar. As I suspect there are only a very few entries in the calendar calendar I don't mind if there is a solution whereby I can view the contents of the calendar calendar and manually enter them into the home calendar. From opensesame at me.com Thu Jan 19 22:19:13 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:19:13 -0500 Subject: Apple's new "iBooks Author" Mac App In-Reply-To: References: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> Message-ID: <4576D129-1AC9-46B5-BCDF-400561C1FCFF@me.com> Hi Jane, I think you're right about being able to create and publish any sort of book with this App, or publish it on the iBooks store at least.. Apple's description for the App says, "Now anyone can create stunning iBooks: Textbooks, cookbooks, history books, picture books, and more for iPad. All you need is an idea and a Mac." I think this is really exciting stuff, especially if they've done their accessibility homework on the app and the publishing process. One note about supported devices for reading the published books: It does appear as if these books are not currently supported in iBooks on the iPhone and iTouch, just the iPad. Cheers, Bryan On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jane wrote: > I have the app; I haven't played with it much, ut my first thoguht was, wow! A way to create books and sell the mint he iBooks store! I know it's meant for textbooks, but I don't see why it can't be used to make other kinds of books. Short stories, novels, whatever. From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 22:34:02 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:34:02 -0800 Subject: Apple's new "iBooks Author" Mac App In-Reply-To: <4576D129-1AC9-46B5-BCDF-400561C1FCFF@me.com> References: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> <4576D129-1AC9-46B5-BCDF-400561C1FCFF@me.com> Message-ID: tha'ts true. and it's true for the text books as well. so no ipad for me yet lol! I'll wait until my birthday or christmas. lol! On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hi Jane, > > I think you're right about being able to create and publish any sort of book with this App, or publish it on the iBooks store at least.. Apple's description for the App says, "Now anyone can create stunning iBooks: Textbooks, cookbooks, history books, picture books, and more for iPad. All you need is an idea and a Mac." > > I think this is really exciting stuff, especially if they've done their accessibility homework on the app and the publishing process. > > One note about supported devices for reading the published books: It does appear as if these books are not currently supported in iBooks on the iPhone and iTouch, just the iPad. > > Cheers, > Bryan > > On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jane wrote: >> I have the app; I haven't played with it much, ut my first thoguht was, wow! A way to create books and sell the mint he iBooks store! I know it's meant for textbooks, but I don't see why it can't be used to make other kinds of books. Short stories, novels, whatever. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 22:36:22 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:36:22 -0500 Subject: Apple's new "iBooks Author" Mac App In-Reply-To: References: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> <4576D129-1AC9-46B5-BCDF-400561C1FCFF@me.com> Message-ID: <1DC47FD6-F845-43DD-B2CD-8D1375641FB1@gmail.com> Can the app be used to make plain old epubs, not the ones you have to publish in their new format? Hmm. If I were to do soething like that, I wouldn't want it restricted to iPads. Jane On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > tha'ts true. and it's true for the text books as well. so no ipad for me yet lol! I'll wait until my birthday or christmas. lol! > On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Hi Jane, >> >> I think you're right about being able to create and publish any sort of book with this App, or publish it on the iBooks store at least.. Apple's description for the App says, "Now anyone can create stunning iBooks: Textbooks, cookbooks, history books, picture books, and more for iPad. All you need is an idea and a Mac." >> >> I think this is really exciting stuff, especially if they've done their accessibility homework on the app and the publishing process. >> >> One note about supported devices for reading the published books: It does appear as if these books are not currently supported in iBooks on the iPhone and iTouch, just the iPad. >> >> Cheers, >> Bryan >> >> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jane wrote: >>> I have the app; I haven't played with it much, ut my first thoguht was, wow! A way to create books and sell the mint he iBooks store! I know it's meant for textbooks, but I don't see why it can't be used to make other kinds of books. Short stories, novels, whatever. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 22:55:07 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:55:07 -0800 Subject: Apple's new "iBooks Author" Mac App In-Reply-To: <1DC47FD6-F845-43DD-B2CD-8D1375641FB1@gmail.com> References: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> <4576D129-1AC9-46B5-BCDF-400561C1FCFF@me.com> <1DC47FD6-F845-43DD-B2CD-8D1375641FB1@gmail.com> Message-ID: I believe so. but since I can't write myself out of a corner I don't think I'll be trying the app to find out lol! Take care. On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Jane wrote: > Can the app be used to make plain old epubs, not the ones you have to publish in their new format? Hmm. If I were to do soething like that, I wouldn't want it restricted to iPads. > > Jane > > > > > On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> tha'ts true. and it's true for the text books as well. so no ipad for me yet lol! I'll wait until my birthday or christmas. lol! >> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >>> Hi Jane, >>> >>> I think you're right about being able to create and publish any sort of book with this App, or publish it on the iBooks store at least.. Apple's description for the App says, "Now anyone can create stunning iBooks: Textbooks, cookbooks, history books, picture books, and more for iPad. All you need is an idea and a Mac." >>> >>> I think this is really exciting stuff, especially if they've done their accessibility homework on the app and the publishing process. >>> >>> One note about supported devices for reading the published books: It does appear as if these books are not currently supported in iBooks on the iPhone and iTouch, just the iPad. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Bryan >>> >>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jane wrote: >>>> I have the app; I haven't played with it much, ut my first thoguht was, wow! A way to create books and sell the mint he iBooks store! I know it's meant for textbooks, but I don't see why it can't be used to make other kinds of books. Short stories, novels, whatever. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 00:26:44 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:26:44 -0500 Subject: Apple's new "iBooks Author" Mac App In-Reply-To: References: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> <4576D129-1AC9-46B5-BCDF-400561C1FCFF@me.com> <1DC47FD6-F845-43DD-B2CD-8D1375641FB1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F45DBA6-9A6A-476F-8E1B-DB544750979F@gmail.com> Hi, Here's a stupid question, will Apple require you to publish what you write with the ibooks author app? Thanks, Courtney Sent from my macbook air On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I believe so. but since I can't write myself out of a corner I don't think I'll be trying the app to find out lol! > > Take care. > On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Jane wrote: > >> Can the app be used to make plain old epubs, not the ones you have to publish in their new format? Hmm. If I were to do soething like that, I wouldn't want it restricted to iPads. >> >> Jane >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> tha'ts true. and it's true for the text books as well. so no ipad for me yet lol! I'll wait until my birthday or christmas. lol! >>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jane, >>>> >>>> I think you're right about being able to create and publish any sort of book with this App, or publish it on the iBooks store at least.. Apple's description for the App says, "Now anyone can create stunning iBooks: Textbooks, cookbooks, history books, picture books, and more for iPad. All you need is an idea and a Mac." >>>> >>>> I think this is really exciting stuff, especially if they've done their accessibility homework on the app and the publishing process. >>>> >>>> One note about supported devices for reading the published books: It does appear as if these books are not currently supported in iBooks on the iPhone and iTouch, just the iPad. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Bryan >>>> >>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jane wrote: >>>>> I have the app; I haven't played with it much, ut my first thoguht was, wow! A way to create books and sell the mint he iBooks store! I know it's meant for textbooks, but I don't see why it can't be used to make other kinds of books. Short stories, novels, whatever. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From juanitatighan at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 00:36:09 2012 From: juanitatighan at gmail.com (Jane) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:36:09 -0500 Subject: Apple's new "iBooks Author" Mac App In-Reply-To: <4F45DBA6-9A6A-476F-8E1B-DB544750979F@gmail.com> References: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> <4576D129-1AC9-46B5-BCDF-400561C1FCFF@me.com> <1DC47FD6-F845-43DD-B2CD-8D1375641FB1@gmail.com> <4F45DBA6-9A6A-476F-8E1B-DB544750979F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Looks like you can export as pdf txt or or iBooks. Jane On Jan 19, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Here's a stupid question, will Apple require you to publish what you write with the ibooks author app? > Thanks, > Courtney > > > Sent from my macbook air > > On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I believe so. but since I can't write myself out of a corner I don't think I'll be trying the app to find out lol! >> >> Take care. >> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Jane wrote: >> >>> Can the app be used to make plain old epubs, not the ones you have to publish in their new format? Hmm. If I were to do soething like that, I wouldn't want it restricted to iPads. >>> >>> Jane >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> tha'ts true. and it's true for the text books as well. so no ipad for me yet lol! I'll wait until my birthday or christmas. lol! >>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Jane, >>>>> >>>>> I think you're right about being able to create and publish any sort of book with this App, or publish it on the iBooks store at least.. Apple's description for the App says, "Now anyone can create stunning iBooks: Textbooks, cookbooks, history books, picture books, and more for iPad. All you need is an idea and a Mac." >>>>> >>>>> I think this is really exciting stuff, especially if they've done their accessibility homework on the app and the publishing process. >>>>> >>>>> One note about supported devices for reading the published books: It does appear as if these books are not currently supported in iBooks on the iPhone and iTouch, just the iPad. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Bryan >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jane wrote: >>>>>> I have the app; I haven't played with it much, ut my first thoguht was, wow! A way to create books and sell the mint he iBooks store! I know it's meant for textbooks, but I don't see why it can't be used to make other kinds of books. Short stories, novels, whatever. >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 00:41:19 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:41:19 -0800 Subject: Apple's new "iBooks Author" Mac App In-Reply-To: <4F45DBA6-9A6A-476F-8E1B-DB544750979F@gmail.com> References: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> <4576D129-1AC9-46B5-BCDF-400561C1FCFF@me.com> <1DC47FD6-F845-43DD-B2CD-8D1375641FB1@gmail.com> <4F45DBA6-9A6A-476F-8E1B-DB544750979F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8E21DCE3-3F61-4A1C-94C3-4287D257F027@gmail.com> I doubt it. I bet you could some how use this in the classroom if you wanted to. for a test or what not. Take care all On Jan 19, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Here's a stupid question, will Apple require you to publish what you write with the ibooks author app? > Thanks, > Courtney > > > Sent from my macbook air > > On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I believe so. but since I can't write myself out of a corner I don't think I'll be trying the app to find out lol! >> >> Take care. >> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Jane wrote: >> >>> Can the app be used to make plain old epubs, not the ones you have to publish in their new format? Hmm. If I were to do soething like that, I wouldn't want it restricted to iPads. >>> >>> Jane >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> tha'ts true. and it's true for the text books as well. so no ipad for me yet lol! I'll wait until my birthday or christmas. lol! >>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Jane, >>>>> >>>>> I think you're right about being able to create and publish any sort of book with this App, or publish it on the iBooks store at least.. Apple's description for the App says, "Now anyone can create stunning iBooks: Textbooks, cookbooks, history books, picture books, and more for iPad. All you need is an idea and a Mac." >>>>> >>>>> I think this is really exciting stuff, especially if they've done their accessibility homework on the app and the publishing process. >>>>> >>>>> One note about supported devices for reading the published books: It does appear as if these books are not currently supported in iBooks on the iPhone and iTouch, just the iPad. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Bryan >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jane wrote: >>>>>> I have the app; I haven't played with it much, ut my first thoguht was, wow! A way to create books and sell the mint he iBooks store! I know it's meant for textbooks, but I don't see why it can't be used to make other kinds of books. Short stories, novels, whatever. >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moopiecurran at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 00:43:17 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:43:17 -0500 Subject: Apple's new "iBooks Author" Mac App In-Reply-To: <8E21DCE3-3F61-4A1C-94C3-4287D257F027@gmail.com> References: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> <4576D129-1AC9-46B5-BCDF-400561C1FCFF@me.com> <1DC47FD6-F845-43DD-B2CD-8D1375641FB1@gmail.com> <4F45DBA6-9A6A-476F-8E1B-DB544750979F@gmail.com> <8E21DCE3-3F61-4A1C-94C3-4287D257F027@gmail.com> Message-ID: <38BE4C04-C3E8-4787-B635-78E2AA314C62@gmail.com> Hi, Yeah, like a multimedia quiz, I've been looking for something to accomplish stuff like that. Courtney Sent from my macbook air On Jan 19, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I doubt it. I bet you could some how use this in the classroom if you wanted to. for a test or what not. > > Take care all > On Jan 19, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> Here's a stupid question, will Apple require you to publish what you write with the ibooks author app? >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> >> >> Sent from my macbook air >> >> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I believe so. but since I can't write myself out of a corner I don't think I'll be trying the app to find out lol! >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Jane wrote: >>> >>>> Can the app be used to make plain old epubs, not the ones you have to publish in their new format? Hmm. If I were to do soething like that, I wouldn't want it restricted to iPads. >>>> >>>> Jane >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> tha'ts true. and it's true for the text books as well. so no ipad for me yet lol! I'll wait until my birthday or christmas. lol! >>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jane, >>>>>> >>>>>> I think you're right about being able to create and publish any sort of book with this App, or publish it on the iBooks store at least.. Apple's description for the App says, "Now anyone can create stunning iBooks: Textbooks, cookbooks, history books, picture books, and more for iPad. All you need is an idea and a Mac." >>>>>> >>>>>> I think this is really exciting stuff, especially if they've done their accessibility homework on the app and the publishing process. >>>>>> >>>>>> One note about supported devices for reading the published books: It does appear as if these books are not currently supported in iBooks on the iPhone and iTouch, just the iPad. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Bryan >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jane wrote: >>>>>>> I have the app; I haven't played with it much, ut my first thoguht was, wow! A way to create books and sell the mint he iBooks store! I know it's meant for textbooks, but I don't see why it can't be used to make other kinds of books. Short stories, novels, whatever. >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From rhondaprincess at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 02:28:05 2012 From: rhondaprincess at gmail.com (rhonda cruz) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:28:05 -0800 Subject: found my passward. Message-ID: <136E755F-06CB-4EA3-8F50-F5A56FA4FE16@gmail.com> HEllo all, I haveseccessfuly recoverd my password. i'm learning the mac. vary fast. I really figgeard that it would beard for me to learn something knew. but it is going great. From rattail4 at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 02:35:38 2012 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:35:38 -0500 Subject: seeing online status with Skype Message-ID: Hey all, Just made a discovery earlier today in regards to seeing a contact's online status in Skype. If the person has a mood message, voiceover won't read if they have online status or what ever they are but if they don't have any mood test it seems too. Not sure if this a voiceover issue or a Skype one or both. Just thought I'd pass along what I noticed. From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 04:40:18 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:40:18 -0800 Subject: Apple's new "iBooks Author" Mac App In-Reply-To: <38BE4C04-C3E8-4787-B635-78E2AA314C62@gmail.com> References: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> <4576D129-1AC9-46B5-BCDF-400561C1FCFF@me.com> <1DC47FD6-F845-43DD-B2CD-8D1375641FB1@gmail.com> <4F45DBA6-9A6A-476F-8E1B-DB544750979F@gmail.com> <8E21DCE3-3F61-4A1C-94C3-4287D257F027@gmail.com> <38BE4C04-C3E8-4787-B635-78E2AA314C62@gmail.com> Message-ID: i'm sure the things are limitless. I wonder if the prof will let me use this for my project coming up in a few months for my quiz test I have to make. On Jan 19, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Yeah, like a multimedia quiz, I've been looking for something to accomplish stuff like that. > Courtney > > > Sent from my macbook air > > On Jan 19, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I doubt it. I bet you could some how use this in the classroom if you wanted to. for a test or what not. >> >> Take care all >> On Jan 19, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Here's a stupid question, will Apple require you to publish what you write with the ibooks author app? >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney >>> >>> >>> Sent from my macbook air >>> >>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I believe so. but since I can't write myself out of a corner I don't think I'll be trying the app to find out lol! >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Jane wrote: >>>> >>>>> Can the app be used to make plain old epubs, not the ones you have to publish in their new format? Hmm. If I were to do soething like that, I wouldn't want it restricted to iPads. >>>>> >>>>> Jane >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> tha'ts true. and it's true for the text books as well. so no ipad for me yet lol! I'll wait until my birthday or christmas. lol! >>>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Jane, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think you're right about being able to create and publish any sort of book with this App, or publish it on the iBooks store at least.. Apple's description for the App says, "Now anyone can create stunning iBooks: Textbooks, cookbooks, history books, picture books, and more for iPad. All you need is an idea and a Mac." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think this is really exciting stuff, especially if they've done their accessibility homework on the app and the publishing process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One note about supported devices for reading the published books: It does appear as if these books are not currently supported in iBooks on the iPhone and iTouch, just the iPad. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Bryan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jane wrote: >>>>>>>> I have the app; I haven't played with it much, ut my first thoguht was, wow! A way to create books and sell the mint he iBooks store! I know it's meant for textbooks, but I don't see why it can't be used to make other kinds of books. 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It works great on my Mac. Do I need to purchase the money Reader a second time if I want a copy for my iPhone 4? If not, how do I get the app onto my iPhone? Although I have synchronized my iPhone with my Mac, the app is not on my iPhone. Many thanks, Mike On 19,Jan,2012, at 5:11 PM, Esther wrote: > Hello Sadam, > > When LookTel Money Reader starts up, the camera on your iPhone is immediately activated. There's maybe a 3 or 4 second pause before you hear "Money Reader Running". Once you get that message, any bills that are placed within view of your iPhone camera, and in sufficient light, will automatically be identified. I typically hold my iPhone 4 camera between 4 to 6 inches from the bills, for all currency (including Australian dollars). On the iPhone 4, and I believe this is also true for the iPhone 4S, the light on the camera will automatically come on if there is insufficient light to identify the bill. (This is not true for the iPhone 3GS -- you must first check that there is adequate lighting.) > > If you have not had any success with using this app, try the following: Place your bills in a flat stack in your left hand with the iPhone lying on top of them. The iPhone is in the normal orientation for use if you picked it up -- the touch screen is toward you and the home button is at the bottom. The long direction of the bills lies along the long direction of the iPhone, and the width of the bills is only slightly wider than the iPhone. You can have everything centered and lying flat on the palm of your hand. (If you are left handed you can make the same arrangement with your right hand.) > > Now, simply pick up the iPhone by gripping the sides of the device with your other hand, and lift it straight up from the palm of your hand about 4 or 5 inches. You should hear the app announce the amount, e.g., "10 dollars". VoiceOver will continue to repeat the denomination of the bill in the camera view. You can also use the app on bills that are on a flat surface, but I find it is easier to get a sense of the height and position if you first try this by holding iPhone in one hand and the laying the bills flat in the palm of your other hand. You can try moving the hand that holds the iPhone to different heights, and feel what's most comfortable for you, and how quickly the app responds to identifying the currency. > > OCR apps work best when you hold the camera fairly steady, at whatever height you raise it to, so when you experiment, first move to a position, then keep your hand in that position while the app runs. LookTel Money Reader should be able to identify currency regardless of which side of the bill is facing the camera, and it works fairly fast (e.g. tenths of seconds), so it will do pretty well even if you don't hold the iPhone camera steady. (However, you shouldn't try to deliberately wave the camera around so that it is never able to focus well on the money.) > > Since the app reads whatever currency is in the camera view, it's best to have only one bill visible at a time -- e.g. fanning out a number of bills with different denominations will only confuse things. You could place a stack of bills under the camera, then remove the top bill one by one, or you could simply place a sequence single bills under the view of the camera. > > Incidentally, LookTel money reader will read out currencies whether or not VoiceOver is running. It uses different voices for the different currencies, and they're just different from the VoiceOver voices. If you want to have the bills identified by tones instead of announcement (for more privacy), turn on the mute switch (along the left side of your iPhone, near the top -- it's the rectangular switch that you activate by pushing down.) You'll hear tones with different pitches. One dollar will be a single, low tone. Five dollars will be three low tones. Ten dollars is a single, high tone. Twenty is two high tones, etc. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Jan 19, 2012, at 03:42, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > >> Hi all, today I downloaded the money reader app on my iPhone 4S. Unfortunately when I run the app all I'm getting from voice-over is money reader running. All efforts to get information by taking a picture of a $20 Australian bill have failed. Is there something I'm missing here. Maybe someone can give me a hand with this one? Thank you kind regards. >> >> Sent from my iPhone > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 12:43:53 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:43:53 -0500 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: <39D66BDE-46A2-44B1-AC32-C70E83BF6FA2@gmail.com> References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> <39D66BDE-46A2-44B1-AC32-C70E83BF6FA2@gmail.com> Message-ID: Seating's ? do you mean settings? Sign, Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:57 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. Hi. Where do you find the setings in voxie? Best regards Annie. Den Jan 19, 2012 kl. 1:34 PM skrev Bubba: > I think so Just use the help in the app to find out. But sure you can! > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:19 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. > > Hi, > In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text > document or something? > Thanks, > Courtney > > > Sent from my macbook air > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> >> Hi Annie, >> >> I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best > are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. >> I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the > recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the > Developer also keeps improving and adding features. >> >> I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several > options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to > your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. >> >> I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick > recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also > I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List > recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with > both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. >> >> The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so > many features that you really need to take the time to read the > documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use > recorder and note taker. >> >> I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I > did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but > I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. >> >> You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. >> >> I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not > sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as > play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high > quality with external mic of course. >>> >>> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, > that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, > but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >>> >>> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . 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Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Fri Jan 20 13:19:12 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 00:19:12 +1100 Subject: Using LookTel Money Reader for the first time [was Re: Strange behaviour with money reader.] In-Reply-To: <4A81AEC6-18B6-45A7-91C1-FE7CB06061D3@busboom.at> References: <974806B0-653C-49F3-86A1-E3E9299B8329@gmail.com> <554C9FCE-4233-49EE-AC4E-2C513ABF728B@mac.com> <4A81AEC6-18B6-45A7-91C1-FE7CB06061D3@busboom.at> Message-ID: <3F6513F0-6B31-4224-AB8D-67BF232D86AA@bluebottle.com> yes you do unfortuantly need to ree purtches it for iphone as the one you have is a mac version only its different its design for the mac only sorry about that i had to do the same thing with bento smiles On 20/01/2012, at 11:14 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello Esther and others, > > Esther, your explanation was super, but I am having a totally different issue: > > While on my Mac, I went to the MacStore and purchased the aforementioned Money Reader. It works great on my Mac. Do I need to purchase the money Reader a second time if I want a copy for my iPhone 4? If not, how do I get the app onto my iPhone? Although I have synchronized my iPhone with my Mac, the app is not on my iPhone. > > Many thanks, > > Mike > > On 19,Jan,2012, at 5:11 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hello Sadam, >> >> When LookTel Money Reader starts up, the camera on your iPhone is immediately activated. There's maybe a 3 or 4 second pause before you hear "Money Reader Running". Once you get that message, any bills that are placed within view of your iPhone camera, and in sufficient light, will automatically be identified. I typically hold my iPhone 4 camera between 4 to 6 inches from the bills, for all currency (including Australian dollars). On the iPhone 4, and I believe this is also true for the iPhone 4S, the light on the camera will automatically come on if there is insufficient light to identify the bill. (This is not true for the iPhone 3GS -- you must first check that there is adequate lighting.) >> >> If you have not had any success with using this app, try the following: Place your bills in a flat stack in your left hand with the iPhone lying on top of them. The iPhone is in the normal orientation for use if you picked it up -- the touch screen is toward you and the home button is at the bottom. The long direction of the bills lies along the long direction of the iPhone, and the width of the bills is only slightly wider than the iPhone. You can have everything centered and lying flat on the palm of your hand. (If you are left handed you can make the same arrangement with your right hand.) >> >> Now, simply pick up the iPhone by gripping the sides of the device with your other hand, and lift it straight up from the palm of your hand about 4 or 5 inches. You should hear the app announce the amount, e.g., "10 dollars". VoiceOver will continue to repeat the denomination of the bill in the camera view. You can also use the app on bills that are on a flat surface, but I find it is easier to get a sense of the height and position if you first try this by holding iPhone in one hand and the laying the bills flat in the palm of your other hand. You can try moving the hand that holds the iPhone to different heights, and feel what's most comfortable for you, and how quickly the app responds to identifying the currency. >> >> OCR apps work best when you hold the camera fairly steady, at whatever height you raise it to, so when you experiment, first move to a position, then keep your hand in that position while the app runs. LookTel Money Reader should be able to identify currency regardless of which side of the bill is facing the camera, and it works fairly fast (e.g. tenths of seconds), so it will do pretty well even if you don't hold the iPhone camera steady. (However, you shouldn't try to deliberately wave the camera around so that it is never able to focus well on the money.) >> >> Since the app reads whatever currency is in the camera view, it's best to have only one bill visible at a time -- e.g. fanning out a number of bills with different denominations will only confuse things. You could place a stack of bills under the camera, then remove the top bill one by one, or you could simply place a sequence single bills under the view of the camera. >> >> Incidentally, LookTel money reader will read out currencies whether or not VoiceOver is running. It uses different voices for the different currencies, and they're just different from the VoiceOver voices. If you want to have the bills identified by tones instead of announcement (for more privacy), turn on the mute switch (along the left side of your iPhone, near the top -- it's the rectangular switch that you activate by pushing down.) You'll hear tones with different pitches. One dollar will be a single, low tone. Five dollars will be three low tones. Ten dollars is a single, high tone. Twenty is two high tones, etc. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> On Jan 19, 2012, at 03:42, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >> >>> Hi all, today I downloaded the money reader app on my iPhone 4S. Unfortunately when I run the app all I'm getting from voice-over is money reader running. All efforts to get information by taking a picture of a $20 Australian bill have failed. Is there something I'm missing here. Maybe someone can give me a hand with this one? Thank you kind regards. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Fri Jan 20 13:15:11 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:15:11 -1000 Subject: Using LookTel Money Reader for the first time [was Re: Strange behaviour with money reader.] In-Reply-To: <4A81AEC6-18B6-45A7-91C1-FE7CB06061D3@busboom.at> References: <974806B0-653C-49F3-86A1-E3E9299B8329@gmail.com> <554C9FCE-4233-49EE-AC4E-2C513ABF728B@mac.com> <4A81AEC6-18B6-45A7-91C1-FE7CB06061D3@busboom.at> Message-ID: <0A89747B-B94B-432F-A489-6C0B2DEE4F4A@mac.com> Hi Mike, The LookTel Money Reader app for the Mac and the version for iOS devices are two separate items, and have to be purchased separately. One uses the camera built into your computer, and the other uses the camera built into your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. These have different machine architectures, different auto-focus and machine lighting controls, and different camera resolutions. So, yes, the LookTel Money Reader application from the Mac App store is separate from version of the LookTel Money Reader app from the App Store for your iOS device, and must be purchased separately. These versions don't always work equally well; I quite like Prizmo OCR on my iPhone, but wouldn't recommend the version of Prizmo in the Mac App store, at least not for visually impaired users. Here's the link to the iOS version of LookTel Money Reader: ? LookTel Money Reader ($9.99) by IPPLEX http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/looktel-money-reader/id417476558?mt=8 I also meant to remind people that the camera on the app stays active until you actually quit the application by pressing the Home button to return to your home screen. You can use it with the screen curtain on, however. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 20, 2012, at 02:14, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello Esther and others, > > Esther, your explanation was super, but I am having a totally different issue: > > While on my Mac, I went to the MacStore and purchased the aforementioned Money Reader. It works great on my Mac. Do I need to purchase the money Reader a second time if I want a copy for my iPhone 4? If not, how do I get the app onto my iPhone? Although I have synchronized my iPhone with my Mac, the app is not on my iPhone. > > Many thanks, > > Mike > > On 19,Jan,2012, at 5:11 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hello Sadam, >> >> When LookTel Money Reader starts up, the camera on your iPhone is immediately activated. There's maybe a 3 or 4 second pause before you hear "Money Reader Running". Once you get that message, any bills that are placed within view of your iPhone camera, and in sufficient light, will automatically be identified. I typically hold my iPhone 4 camera between 4 to 6 inches from the bills, for all currency (including Australian dollars). On the iPhone 4, and I believe this is also true for the iPhone 4S, the light on the camera will automatically come on if there is insufficient light to identify the bill. (This is not true for the iPhone 3GS -- you must first check that there is adequate lighting.) >> >> If you have not had any success with using this app, try the following: Place your bills in a flat stack in your left hand with the iPhone lying on top of them. The iPhone is in the normal orientation for use if you picked it up -- the touch screen is toward you and the home button is at the bottom. The long direction of the bills lies along the long direction of the iPhone, and the width of the bills is only slightly wider than the iPhone. You can have everything centered and lying flat on the palm of your hand. (If you are left handed you can make the same arrangement with your right hand.) >> >> Now, simply pick up the iPhone by gripping the sides of the device with your other hand, and lift it straight up from the palm of your hand about 4 or 5 inches. You should hear the app announce the amount, e.g., "10 dollars". VoiceOver will continue to repeat the denomination of the bill in the camera view. You can also use the app on bills that are on a flat surface, but I find it is easier to get a sense of the height and position if you first try this by holding iPhone in one hand and the laying the bills flat in the palm of your other hand. You can try moving the hand that holds the iPhone to different heights, and feel what's most comfortable for you, and how quickly the app responds to identifying the currency. >> >> OCR apps work best when you hold the camera fairly steady, at whatever height you raise it to, so when you experiment, first move to a position, then keep your hand in that position while the app runs. LookTel Money Reader should be able to identify currency regardless of which side of the bill is facing the camera, and it works fairly fast (e.g. tenths of seconds), so it will do pretty well even if you don't hold the iPhone camera steady. (However, you shouldn't try to deliberately wave the camera around so that it is never able to focus well on the money.) >> >> Since the app reads whatever currency is in the camera view, it's best to have only one bill visible at a time -- e.g. fanning out a number of bills with different denominations will only confuse things. You could place a stack of bills under the camera, then remove the top bill one by one, or you could simply place a sequence single bills under the view of the camera. >> >> Incidentally, LookTel money reader will read out currencies whether or not VoiceOver is running. It uses different voices for the different currencies, and they're just different from the VoiceOver voices. If you want to have the bills identified by tones instead of announcement (for more privacy), turn on the mute switch (along the left side of your iPhone, near the top -- it's the rectangular switch that you activate by pushing down.) You'll hear tones with different pitches. One dollar will be a single, low tone. Five dollars will be three low tones. Ten dollars is a single, high tone. Twenty is two high tones, etc. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> On Jan 19, 2012, at 03:42, Sadam Ahmed wrote: >> >>> Hi all, today I downloaded the money reader app on my iPhone 4S. Unfortunately when I run the app all I'm getting from voice-over is money reader running. All efforts to get information by taking a picture of a $20 Australian bill have failed. Is there something I'm missing here. Maybe someone can give me a hand with this one? Thank you kind regards. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> From tsiegel at softcon.com Fri Jan 20 15:17:38 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:17:38 -0500 Subject: any good quiz making apps out there? In-Reply-To: <20AB356E-78C2-49C0-A105-B7D6325E0985@gmail.com> References: <20AB356E-78C2-49C0-A105-B7D6325E0985@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0892F912-2D03-4097-8F3D-565B36046FE8@softcon.com> If you're looking for something web-based, I've got the perfect solution. I can send it to you if you desire. It uses php/mysql, which is why it's web-based, but it works perfectly with vo, and would be accessible on iphone/ipad/ipods as well. Probably not what you're after, but if it is, let me know. On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Are there any accessible quiz making apps for ios or mac out there? > Thanks, > Courtney > > > Sent from my macbook air > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac- > access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Fri Jan 20 16:59:57 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 16:59:57 +0000 Subject: seeing online status with Skype In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F199D8D.1080809@techno-chat.net> Skype for iOS or Skype for Mac OSX? On 20/01/2012 02:35, Mike Welty wrote: > Hey all, > Just made a discovery earlier today in regards to seeing a contact's online status in Skype. > If the person has a mood message, voiceover won't read if they have online status or what ever they are but if they don't have any mood test it seems too. Not sure if this a voiceover issue or a Skype one or both. Just thought I'd pass along what I noticed. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Fri Jan 20 17:02:10 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:02:10 +0000 Subject: files In-Reply-To: <38A3B1C2-67AE-4C51-8901-D0F9D5FA1843@gmail.com> References: <7F084E84-D342-4464-803F-F3550A5427A7@telus.net> <38A3B1C2-67AE-4C51-8901-D0F9D5FA1843@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F199E12.1050209@techno-chat.net> Aw wow so there are keystrokes to move to trash and to empty it unlike the other OS. On 19/01/2012 21:46, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Just hit cmd backspace to move to trash. To empty cmd shift back space. Now I can't remember as my hands just do the keystrokes. lol! > > Take care. > On Jan 19, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: > >> HI there. How do I delete a file >> I've tried to drag and drop to the recycle bin but sometimes it says it is not dragable and other times there is still a copy in the original area still. >> And if I am in edit txt program how do I save a file but not get many of the same file if it was once saed already. >> Sorry still don't understand spell check in mail. >> THanks for any help. >> Lovette >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From rhondaprincess at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 17:39:23 2012 From: rhondaprincess at gmail.com (rhonda cruz) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:39:23 -0800 Subject: it keeps asking for authentacation. Message-ID: good morning. my mac. is asking for my password. when i'm in mail. i wonder. what is making this. happen. it is getting on my nerves. from rhonda.hi all. From will.d.lomas at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 18:00:42 2012 From: will.d.lomas at gmail.com (william lomas) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:00:42 +0000 Subject: imovie and iphoto Message-ID: <5E7BD699-9056-4791-8308-8696CF5FB783@gmail.com> hi all is iphoto and imovie etc. free programs? my sister can't find them on the leopard disc i had with my macbook she has now off me, are they on the snowleopard or lion images? From rattail4 at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 18:06:26 2012 From: rattail4 at gmail.com (Mike Welty) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:06:26 -0500 Subject: seeing online status with Skype In-Reply-To: <4F199D8D.1080809@techno-chat.net> References: <4F199D8D.1080809@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <4F19AD22.3070908@gmail.com> This is for mac OSX On 1/20/2012 11:59, chris hallsworth wrote: > Skype for iOS or Skype for Mac OSX? > > On 20/01/2012 02:35, Mike Welty wrote: >> Hey all, >> Just made a discovery earlier today in regards to seeing a contact's >> online status in Skype. >> If the person has a mood message, voiceover won't read if they have >> online status or what ever they are but if they don't have any mood >> test it seems too. Not sure if this a voiceover issue or a Skype one >> or both. Just thought I'd pass along what I noticed. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access > forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > From lyewchan at telus.net Fri Jan 20 18:39:08 2012 From: lyewchan at telus.net (Lovette Yewchan) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:39:08 -0800 Subject: text edit files Message-ID: Hi there. Can someone tell me what the difference in text edit between duplicating a file and saving a version? How do you edit a document and save it but only have one copy of the file? Thanks. Lovette From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 18:40:27 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:40:27 -0800 Subject: imovie and iphoto In-Reply-To: <5E7BD699-9056-4791-8308-8696CF5FB783@gmail.com> References: <5E7BD699-9056-4791-8308-8696CF5FB783@gmail.com> Message-ID: <163FE47E-08B7-496E-9C5C-00E83F58DA4B@gmail.com> You need to get them off the mac app store. I think they are between 15 and 20 us dollars each. Take care. On Jan 20, 2012, at 10:00 AM, william lomas wrote: > hi all is iphoto and imovie etc. free programs? > my sister can't find them on the > leopard disc i had with my macbook she has now off me, are they on the snowleopard or lion images? > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 18:41:36 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:41:36 -0800 Subject: files In-Reply-To: <4F199E12.1050209@techno-chat.net> References: <7F084E84-D342-4464-803F-F3550A5427A7@telus.net> <38A3B1C2-67AE-4C51-8901-D0F9D5FA1843@gmail.com> <4F199E12.1050209@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <59098183-3742-4B0D-8981-5B15605DB85A@gmail.com> Oh yeah. I learned about those the first day I got my mac when friend of mine drilled in to me the keystrokes and made me practice them until I could do them in my sleep lol! Take care. On Jan 20, 2012, at 9:02 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > Aw wow so there are keystrokes to move to trash and to empty it unlike the other OS. > > On 19/01/2012 21:46, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> Just hit cmd backspace to move to trash. To empty cmd shift back space. Now I can't remember as my hands just do the keystrokes. lol! >> >> Take care. >> On Jan 19, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote: >> >>> HI there. How do I delete a file >>> I've tried to drag and drop to the recycle bin but sometimes it says it is not dragable and other times there is still a copy in the original area still. >>> And if I am in edit txt program how do I save a file but not get many of the same file if it was once saed already. >>> Sorry still don't understand spell check in mail. >>> THanks for any help. >>> Lovette >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 18:43:16 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:43:16 -0800 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> <39D66BDE-46A2-44B1-AC32-C70E83BF6FA2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8F0471D6-65F2-4366-A9BB-6AC4576D44EC@gmail.com> If it was me that mistyped that Yeah I did. If it was someone else then I dunno lol! Take care all and be safe. Sarah Alawami If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jan 20, 2012, at 4:43 AM, Bubba wrote: > Seating's ? do you mean settings? > > > Sign, > Bubba > bubbathegeek at gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:57 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. > > Hi. > > Where do you find the setings in voxie? From weavermicha at googlemail.com Fri Jan 20 19:47:03 2012 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:47:03 +0000 Subject: removing podcasts Message-ID: <4f19c17b.4214b40a.71cf.ffff8423@mx.google.com> where in i-tunes are podcasts stored? i ask because i have just downloaded the latest i-tunes and there are eppisodes of a podcast i wish to remove only i can't seem to be able to find them in i-tunes on the mac to be able to remove them and search either doesn't search or comes up with the wrong section in i-tunes when i try to find the eppisodes? i have even tried under radio but still can't locate them. From velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com Fri Jan 20 19:38:56 2012 From: velocity.focus66 at virginmedia.com (Red.Falcon) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:38:56 +0000 Subject: removing podcasts In-Reply-To: <4f19c17b.4214b40a.71cf.ffff8423@mx.google.com> References: <4f19c17b.4214b40a.71cf.ffff8423@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <8BDA0753-E589-44CA-AE33-BAB484FBC11D@virginmedia.com> Hi there! You might have to tick the box in Itunes prevs to show podcasts in the main window! You can also get rid of any you have that you might not want! Or add others! Colin On 20 Jan 2012, at 19:47, michael weaver wrote: > where in i-tunes are podcasts stored? > i ask because i have just downloaded the latest i-tunes and there are episodes of a podcast i wish to remove only i can't seem to be able to find them in i-tunes on the mac to be able to remove them and search either doesn't search or comes up with the wrong section in i-tunes when i try to find the episodes? > i have even tried under radio but still can't locate them. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Fri Jan 20 19:53:15 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:53:15 +0000 Subject: seeing online status with Skype In-Reply-To: <4F19AD22.3070908@gmail.com> References: <4F199D8D.1080809@techno-chat.net> <4F19AD22.3070908@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F19C62B.6050905@techno-chat.net> Wow that is no good in my opinion. Mood messages don't matter that much to me unless it is of some importance, like "please text before calling". On 20/01/2012 18:06, Mike Welty wrote: > This is for mac OSX > > On 1/20/2012 11:59, chris hallsworth wrote: >> Skype for iOS or Skype for Mac OSX? >> >> On 20/01/2012 02:35, Mike Welty wrote: >>> Hey all, >>> Just made a discovery earlier today in regards to seeing a contact's >>> online status in Skype. >>> If the person has a mood message, voiceover won't read if they have >>> online status or what ever they are but if they don't have any mood >>> test it seems too. Not sure if this a voiceover issue or a Skype one >>> or both. Just thought I'd pass along what I noticed. >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 20:08:35 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:08:35 -0600 Subject: it keeps asking for authentacation. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do you have your server settings set for pop 3 or imap? This was a problem I was having when I was running gmail as pop 3 on my Tiger machine, finally gave up and set up my accounts as imap. On Jan 20, 2012, at 11:39 AM, rhonda cruz wrote: > good morning. > my mac. > is asking for my password. > when i'm in mail. > i wonder. what is making this. happen. it is getting on my nerves. > from rhonda.hi all. > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From geoff.waaler at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 20:13:53 2012 From: geoff.waaler at gmail.com (Geoff Waaler) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:13:53 -0500 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. Message-ID: <5DFE20B8268143FB80FFB6015E38B037@DD952WB1> Hi Bubba, or what ever your name is; you've posted to various lists using three different names and some of your past headers suggest that you're employed by the state of Florida, so I'm not quite sure how to address you. Apparently the civil service human resource screening people down there don't have standards; I mean, do you really lack the reading comprehension skills to ascertain what Annie meant, or was your goal to waste all of our time pointing out that she was guilty of a typo. I think that English is not Annie's primary language, yet I've learned a lot from her on these lists. The irony is that your posts consistently contain about 20 times the average number of spelling and grammatical errors, yet English is presumably your primary language. Go figure!! Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Bubba To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:43 AM Subject: RE: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. Seating's ? do you mean settings? Sign, Bubba From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Fri Jan 20 20:38:44 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:38:44 +0000 Subject: seeing online status with Skype In-Reply-To: <4F19C62B.6050905@techno-chat.net> References: <4F199D8D.1080809@techno-chat.net> <4F19AD22.3070908@gmail.com> <4F19C62B.6050905@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <4F19D0D4.3010508@techno-chat.net> I was told Skype 2.8 for Mac OSX works fine on Lion but I don't know how you can get it. On 20/01/2012 19:53, chris hallsworth wrote: > Wow that is no good in my opinion. Mood messages don't matter that much > to me unless it is of some importance, like "please text before calling". > > On 20/01/2012 18:06, Mike Welty wrote: >> This is for mac OSX >> >> On 1/20/2012 11:59, chris hallsworth wrote: >>> Skype for iOS or Skype for Mac OSX? >>> >>> On 20/01/2012 02:35, Mike Welty wrote: >>>> Hey all, >>>> Just made a discovery earlier today in regards to seeing a contact's >>>> online status in Skype. >>>> If the person has a mood message, voiceover won't read if they have >>>> online status or what ever they are but if they don't have any mood >>>> test it seems too. Not sure if this a voiceover issue or a Skype one >>>> or both. Just thought I'd pass along what I noticed. >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, > virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by > visiting the list website at: > > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 20:50:32 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:50:32 -0800 Subject: seeing online status with Skype In-Reply-To: <4F19D0D4.3010508@techno-chat.net> References: <4F199D8D.1080809@techno-chat.net> <4F19AD22.3070908@gmail.com> <4F19C62B.6050905@techno-chat.net> <4F19D0D4.3010508@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: You can also use clisk which a good friend of mine developed and type os username and get the status that way. to get clisk go to http://dlee.org/skype and find the clisk link. Take care. On Jan 20, 2012, at 12:38 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > I was told Skype 2.8 for Mac OSX works fine on Lion but I don't know how you can get it. > > On 20/01/2012 19:53, chris hallsworth wrote: >> Wow that is no good in my opinion. Mood messages don't matter that much >> to me unless it is of some importance, like "please text before calling". >> >> On 20/01/2012 18:06, Mike Welty wrote: >>> This is for mac OSX >>> >>> On 1/20/2012 11:59, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>> Skype for iOS or Skype for Mac OSX? >>>> >>>> On 20/01/2012 02:35, Mike Welty wrote: >>>>> Hey all, >>>>> Just made a discovery earlier today in regards to seeing a contact's >>>>> online status in Skype. >>>>> If the person has a mood message, voiceover won't read if they have >>>>> online status or what ever they are but if they don't have any mood >>>>> test it seems too. Not sure if this a voiceover issue or a Skype one >>>>> or both. Just thought I'd pass along what I noticed. >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Fri Jan 20 21:00:46 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 16:00:46 -0500 Subject: Apple's new "iBooks Author" Mac App In-Reply-To: <1DC47FD6-F845-43DD-B2CD-8D1375641FB1@gmail.com> References: <66E8E238-2922-43D6-B845-2EB741E99341@me.com> <4576D129-1AC9-46B5-BCDF-400561C1FCFF@me.com> <1DC47FD6-F845-43DD-B2CD-8D1375641FB1@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jane and All, >From what I've read in the press and encountered in the App myself, it doesn't seem possible to save a document in epub format for general distribution. Perhaps Apple will eventually release updated versions of their aging iworks applications and include accessibility enhancements such as the apparent ability to actually create and work with tables without having to jump through flaming hoops. I've got to say I am really excited about this App and the possibilities it offers both in terms of publishing through the proprietary iBookstore and the possible accessibility enhancements that will hopefully be passed along to it's siblings, Pages, Numbers & Keynote. Cheers, Bryan On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Jane wrote: > Can the app be used to make plain old epubs, not the ones you have to publish in their new format? Hmm. If I were to do soething like that, I wouldn't want it restricted to iPads. > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Fri Jan 20 21:06:34 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:06:34 +0000 Subject: Linked In In-Reply-To: <385B8461-229A-4229-B3DB-552CA74208CF@gmail.com> References: <385B8461-229A-4229-B3DB-552CA74208CF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5029D731-5B18-4AD6-9462-D14761334A66@googlemail.com> Hi personaly i would not use linkton as i am allready on facebook and twitter so don't really need that one to. Ian McNamara From 1smartdog at cox.net Fri Jan 20 21:29:40 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:29:40 -0600 Subject: Finder problem Message-ID: For any of you with any knowledge of Finder, I would appreciate help with a problem. In trying to learn how to successfully export a .mov file from Iphoto, I have made a change to Finder and did not realize it. Now, every time I try to arrow through the selections in the Sidebar, it automatically flips over to the Browser. I cannot now arrow through my Sidebar. As I said, any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. Karen From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 22:31:49 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 16:31:49 -0600 Subject: Finder problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1244BD1B-0BCB-49AF-9F43-70E1E4C1C496@gmail.com> Even in an interaction? What view is the list of contents? On Jan 20, 2012, at 3:29 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > For any of you with any knowledge of Finder, I would appreciate help with a problem. > > In trying to learn how to successfully export a .mov file from Iphoto, I have made a change to Finder and did not realize it. Now, every time I try to arrow through the selections in the Sidebar, it automatically flips over to the Browser. I cannot now arrow through my Sidebar. > > As I said, any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. > > Karen > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 23:47:50 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:47:50 -0800 Subject: 5 Tips for Using Apple's Siri Without Annoying People | PCWorld Message-ID: <336F02AD-3380-4B82-9634-CAE3DC4F7EA1@gmail.com> > a very good article on Siri and how you can use it with out being obnoxious. http://www.pcworld.com/article/245473/5_tips_for_using_apples_siri_without_annoying_people.html#tk.rss_news From 1smartdog at cox.net Sat Jan 21 00:50:49 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:50:49 -0600 Subject: Finder problem References: <1244BD1B-0BCB-49AF-9F43-70E1E4C1C496@gmail.com> Message-ID: <883EB714DB564619948270FC86997AE3@karen796b6a58c> Yes. View makes no difference. I've been on the phone with an Apple tech for the last six hours and even they could not help. We activated a remote connection so he could see the problem. It's had to be escalated but I probably won't hear back from them for a week he said. The problem started when I was attempting to use the mouse to drag and drop from IPhoto to the Desktop. Whatever I did using the keyboard with the mouse and cursor tracking caused the problem. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas McMahan" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Finder problem > Even in an interaction? What view is the list of contents? > > On Jan 20, 2012, at 3:29 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > >> For any of you with any knowledge of Finder, I would appreciate help >> with a problem. >> >> In trying to learn how to successfully export a .mov file from Iphoto, I >> have made a change to Finder and did not realize it. Now, every time I >> try to arrow through the selections in the Sidebar, it automatically >> flips over to the Browser. I cannot now arrow through my Sidebar. >> >> As I said, any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Karen >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Sat Jan 21 01:16:09 2012 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (michael) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:16:09 +1100 Subject: text edit files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E7AF37728C9445799D4F7592E50BE1D@CustomerPC> Well once i start a document in text edit i then go to save as give it a name. then each time i add to the document i then go to save a version or comand s. cheers Michael. -----Original Message----- From: Lovette Yewchan Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:39 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: text edit files Hi there. Can someone tell me what the difference in text edit between duplicating a file and saving a version? How do you edit a document and save it but only have one copy of the file? Thanks. Lovette <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 01:20:33 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:20:33 -0800 Subject: Finder problem In-Reply-To: <883EB714DB564619948270FC86997AE3@karen796b6a58c> References: <1244BD1B-0BCB-49AF-9F43-70E1E4C1C496@gmail.com> <883EB714DB564619948270FC86997AE3@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: <248DDD7E-C77F-4D2B-A2F1-3A5F86647B18@gmail.com> Can you reproduce this with another account? I know it's a bit drastic but if not then I'd create a new account and then move all of your files there. Take care. On Jan 20, 2012, at 4:50 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > Yes. View makes no difference. I've been on the phone with an Apple tech for the last six hours and even they could not help. We activated a remote connection so he could see the problem. It's had to be escalated but I probably won't hear back from them for a week he said. > > The problem started when I was attempting to use the mouse to drag and drop from IPhoto to the Desktop. > > Whatever I did using the keyboard with the mouse and cursor tracking caused the problem. > > Karen > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas McMahan" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:31 PM > Subject: Re: Finder problem > > >> Even in an interaction? What view is the list of contents? >> >> On Jan 20, 2012, at 3:29 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: >> >>> For any of you with any knowledge of Finder, I would appreciate help with a problem. >>> >>> In trying to learn how to successfully export a .mov file from Iphoto, I have made a change to Finder and did not realize it. Now, every time I try to arrow through the selections in the Sidebar, it automatically flips over to the Browser. I cannot now arrow through my Sidebar. >>> >>> As I said, any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 01:47:42 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:47:42 -0800 Subject: Keeping Mac OS and data on separate drives | Macworld Message-ID: a good tip. I'm not going to do it though. I don't think lol! Enjoy though. http://www.macworld.com/article/164891/2012/01/keeping_mac_os_and_data_on_separate_drives.html#lsrc.rss_howto From venables134 at btinternet.com Sat Jan 21 01:58:14 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:58:14 +0000 Subject: text edit files In-Reply-To: <0E7AF37728C9445799D4F7592E50BE1D@CustomerPC> References: <0E7AF37728C9445799D4F7592E50BE1D@CustomerPC> Message-ID: <7A8A1FDE-4BB9-4DC8-9B4A-79998DFBA039@btinternet.com> Hi Michael, just wondering after you've given a file a name and use Command S to save it, does it keep adding another version to the document? So to simply say this, do you get another file when you have saved it or does it override the one you are using so that in the 1st place you just have 1 file but keep doing Command S just saves over the top of it. Thanks Daniel On 21 Jan 2012, at 01:16, michael wrote: > Well once i start a document in text edit i then go to save as give it a name. > then each time i add to the document i then go to save a version or comand s. > cheers Michael. > > -----Original Message----- From: Lovette Yewchan > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:39 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: text edit files > > Hi there. Can someone tell me what the difference in text edit between duplicating a file and saving a version? How do you edit a document and save it but only have one copy of the file? > Thanks. > Lovette > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au Sat Jan 21 02:04:08 2012 From: michaelandjeanie at aapt.net.au (michael) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:04:08 +1100 Subject: text edit files In-Reply-To: <7A8A1FDE-4BB9-4DC8-9B4A-79998DFBA039@btinternet.com> References: <0E7AF37728C9445799D4F7592E50BE1D@CustomerPC> <7A8A1FDE-4BB9-4DC8-9B4A-79998DFBA039@btinternet.com> Message-ID: It over rides the 1 before so just keeps up dating. cheers Michael. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel McGee Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:58 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: text edit files Hi Michael, just wondering after you've given a file a name and use Command S to save it, does it keep adding another version to the document? So to simply say this, do you get another file when you have saved it or does it override the one you are using so that in the 1st place you just have 1 file but keep doing Command S just saves over the top of it. Thanks Daniel On 21 Jan 2012, at 01:16, michael wrote: > Well once i start a document in text edit i then go to save as give it a > name. > then each time i add to the document i then go to save a version or comand > s. > cheers Michael. > > -----Original Message----- From: Lovette Yewchan > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:39 AM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: text edit files > > Hi there. Can someone tell me what the difference in text edit between > duplicating a file and saving a version? How do you edit a document and > save it but only have one copy of the file? > Thanks. > Lovette > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From moopiecurran at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 02:18:36 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:18:36 -0500 Subject: any good quiz making apps out there? In-Reply-To: <0892F912-2D03-4097-8F3D-565B36046FE8@softcon.com> References: <20AB356E-78C2-49C0-A105-B7D6325E0985@gmail.com> <0892F912-2D03-4097-8F3D-565B36046FE8@softcon.com> Message-ID: <-6704427690388055840@unknownmsgid> Hi Travis, Thanks for offering, but last night, I found an app in the app store, it's called Test Maker. It lets me make up trivia quizzes and share them with friends via email. Thanks again for the offer though. Courtney Sent from my iPad On 20 Jan 2012, at 10:17 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > If you're looking for something web-based, I've got the perfect solution. I can send it to you if you desire. It uses php/mysql, which is why it's web-based, but it works perfectly with vo, and would be accessible on iphone/ipad/ipods as well. > Probably not what you're after, but if it is, let me know. > > On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> Are there any accessible quiz making apps for ios or mac out there? >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> >> >> Sent from my macbook air >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 03:50:18 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:50:18 +1100 Subject: How to change from ddom to group on the web Message-ID: <-6114431877516561254@unknownmsgid> Can someone give me step by step instructions on how to create a shorttcut key in keyboard commander so I can switch from groups to DOM in web. Thanks for anyone's help that they can give me. Margaret Sent from my iPhone From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 03:58:52 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:58:52 +1100 Subject: Shortcut key for save as In-Reply-To: References: <-5177272393971922734@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <01bb01ccd7f0$ffe0fec0$ffa2fc40$@com> Hi! Anne Your right the save as command doesn't work anymore in text edit. I just tried the shortcut key that Sara recommended in an email and it doesn't work. Can you please tell me how to do Duplicate command which creates a copy of the file with the word Copy appended to the filename and how do I change the filename in the Finder. I hope you can help. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Friday, 20 January 2012 12:08 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Shortcut key for save as Hello Margaret, In Lion, the Save As command has gone. You have to use the Duplicate command which creates a copy of the file with the word Copy appended to the filename. You can then change the filename in the Finder. Cheers, Anne On 19 Jan 2012, at 01:24, Margaret Booth wrote: > Can someone please tell me what is the shortcut key for save as in > text edit. I know the shortcut key forr save is command plus S. Thanks > for all your help. > > Margret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 04:02:34 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:02:34 -0800 Subject: How to change from ddom to group on the web In-Reply-To: <-6114431877516561254@unknownmsgid> References: <-6114431877516561254@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: go to the commander in vo utility and go to keyboard commander tab. Now go to the table after you enable the keyboard commander and go to tab then hit g or that's what I use. then tab to the combo box menu and in there someware is the website submenu. then choose the dom and group thing. On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > Can someone give me step by step instructions on how to create a > shorttcut key in keyboard commander so I can switch from groups to DOM > in web. Thanks for anyone's help that they can give me. > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 04:41:00 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:41:00 +1100 Subject: How to change from ddom to group on the web In-Reply-To: References: <-6114431877516561254@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <01c201ccd7f6$e2694c20$a73be460$@com> Hi! Sara I hope you can be patient with me because some of the areas on my Mac book pro I am still getting my head around and other parts I can get without any problems. I followed your instructions right through to opening utilities, went to commander then went to the tab after the table which is add. I pressed VO spacebar on this and typed in the letter that I was going to use. Then I went to command menu and I pressed VO spacebar. Then went down to web submenu but I couldn't find anything about DOM or group here all it said when I pressed VO spacebar on web submenu was find next auto web site. I'm probably doing something wrong. Can you set me straight and tell me what to do from here. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Saturday, 21 January 2012 3:03 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: How to change from ddom to group on the web go to the commander in vo utility and go to keyboard commander tab. Now go to the table after you enable the keyboard commander and go to tab then hit g or that's what I use. then tab to the combo box menu and in there someware is the website submenu. then choose the dom and group thing. On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > Can someone give me step by step instructions on how to create a > shorttcut key in keyboard commander so I can switch from groups to DOM > in web. Thanks for anyone's help that they can give me. > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sat Jan 21 04:47:43 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:47:43 +1100 Subject: wish there were a easy way to tag mp3s than in i tunes Message-ID: <6096DCF6-37C4-4D63-A277-655A7E7BCBF6@bluebottle.com> when you have thousands of songs that need taging or mp3s its anoying to tag them in i tunes wish there was a app to do it for you that would make life easier i have millions of books that are not in books folder can any one help me with a ap? From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 04:55:59 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:55:59 -0800 Subject: wish there were a easy way to tag mp3s than in i tunes In-Reply-To: <6096DCF6-37C4-4D63-A277-655A7E7BCBF6@bluebottle.com> References: <6096DCF6-37C4-4D63-A277-655A7E7BCBF6@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <3D98B781-AC6D-4517-8AC7-63E4DFDF4CA0@gmail.com> so far ther i s no app. I've looked and people just use itunes. to tag. I don't like it eather but I just deal with it. Take care. On Jan 20, 2012, at 8:47 PM, krystal watson wrote: > when you have thousands of songs that need taging or mp3s its anoying to tag them in i tunes wish there was a app to do it for you that would make life easier i have millions of books that are not in books folder can any one help me with a ap? > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 04:58:01 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:58:01 -0800 Subject: How to change from ddom to group on the web In-Reply-To: <01c201ccd7f6$e2694c20$a73be460$@com> References: <-6114431877516561254@unknownmsgid> <01c201ccd7f6$e2694c20$a73be460$@com> Message-ID: You missed it. all you need to do is down arrow after you hit right arrow in web is down arrow to, or up arrow to Toggle Web Navigation DOM or Group Take care. On Jan 20, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > Hi! Sara > > I hope you can be patient with me because some of the areas on my Mac book > pro I am still getting my head around and other parts I can get without any > problems. > I followed your instructions right through to opening utilities, went to > commander then went to the tab after the table which is add. I pressed VO > spacebar on this and typed in the letter that I was going to use. Then I > went to command menu and I pressed VO spacebar. Then went down to web > submenu but I couldn't find anything about DOM or group here all it said > when I pressed VO spacebar on web submenu was find next auto web site. I'm > probably doing something wrong. Can you set me straight and tell me what to > do from here. > Margaret > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Saturday, 21 January 2012 3:03 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: How to change from ddom to group on the web > > go to the commander in vo utility and go to keyboard commander tab. Now go > to the table after you enable the keyboard commander and go to tab then hit > g or that's what I use. then tab to the combo box menu and in there someware > is the website submenu. then choose the dom and group thing. > On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > >> Can someone give me step by step instructions on how to create a >> shorttcut key in keyboard commander so I can switch from groups to DOM >> in web. Thanks for anyone's help that they can give me. >> Margaret >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From gunn at tznet.com Sat Jan 21 05:27:06 2012 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:27:06 -0600 Subject: Finder problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <838C3969-6A95-4147-829E-A95E214D8855@tznet.com> Karen: Go to home folder and under library go to preferences. Once there, look for com.apple.finder.plist and delete this file. Once you do this, do a reboot right way. Once you reboot this file will be recreated. Hope this works, I had a finder a few months ago and by deleting this file refreshes finder. John On Jan 20, 2012, at 3:29 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > For any of you with any knowledge of Finder, I would appreciate help with a problem. > > In trying to learn how to successfully export a .mov file from Iphoto, I have made a change to Finder and did not realize it. Now, every time I try to arrow through the selections in the Sidebar, it automatically flips over to the Browser. I cannot now arrow through my Sidebar. > > As I said, any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. > > Karen > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From 1smartdog at cox.net Sat Jan 21 05:55:15 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:55:15 -0600 Subject: Finder problem References: <838C3969-6A95-4147-829E-A95E214D8855@tznet.com> Message-ID: <18EBD40DC95D40EFBA32CE37377F7F83@karen796b6a58c> Hi John, Thank you. You put me on the right path. I also trashed the com.apple.sidebarlists.plist file. Then, rather than reboot, I force quit Finder and relaunched. Fixed. Thank you again. I appreciate the reply and the help. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gunn" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:27 PM Subject: Re: Finder problem > Karen: > > Go to home folder and under library go to preferences. > > Once there, look for com.apple.finder.plist and delete this file. > > Once you do this, do a reboot right way. Once you reboot this file will > be recreated. > > Hope this works, I had a finder a few months ago and by deleting this file > refreshes finder. > > John > > > On Jan 20, 2012, at 3:29 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > >> For any of you with any knowledge of Finder, I would appreciate help >> with a problem. >> >> In trying to learn how to successfully export a .mov file from Iphoto, I >> have made a change to Finder and did not realize it. Now, every time I >> try to arrow through the selections in the Sidebar, it automatically >> flips over to the Browser. I cannot now arrow through my Sidebar. >> >> As I said, any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Karen >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > From bubbathegeek at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 07:03:16 2012 From: bubbathegeek at gmail.com (Bubba) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:03:16 -0500 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and Ipad. Message-ID: <025e01ccd80a$c0c0b8b0$42422a10$@gmail.com> Was not trying to point out anyone is miss typing at all ! was making sure what she was asking ! So I could give her or him an answer! So since you have no idea what I was saying just stay out of it! You just presume I was chastising the person and was not by no mean! So if you have no good input don't say anything! So go shove it! Have a nice day! Oh by the way no I don't chastise anyone for grammar or spelling like you do by the way! Like I say go set on a big fat one! Bubba bubbathegeek at gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Geoff Waaler Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 3:14 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: RE: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. Hi Bubba, or what ever your name is; you've posted to various lists using three different names and some of your past headers suggest that you're employed by the state of Florida, so I'm not quite sure how to address you. Apparently the civil service human resource screening people down there don't have standards; I mean, do you really lack the reading comprehension skills to ascertain what Annie meant, or was your goal to waste all of our time pointing out that she was guilty of a typo. I think that English is not Annie's primary language, yet I've learned a lot from her on these lists. The irony is that your posts consistently contain about 20 times the average number of spelling and grammatical errors, yet English is presumably your primary language. Go figure!! Best regards. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: Bubba To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:43 AM Subject: RE: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. Seating's ? do you mean settings? Sign, Bubba <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From krystalwatson at bluebottle.com Sat Jan 21 09:20:21 2012 From: krystalwatson at bluebottle.com (krystal watson) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:20:21 +1100 Subject: why when you tag a file does it not go where its ment to Message-ID: ok so you spend all that time tagging a file why then does a book not go in the audio book folder or book folder that you have if it has a audio book tag makes me anoyed because it feels like i am wasting all my time From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sat Jan 21 10:35:39 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:35:39 +0100 Subject: Shortcut key for save as In-Reply-To: <01bb01ccd7f0$ffe0fec0$ffa2fc40$@com> References: <-5177272393971922734@unknownmsgid> <01bb01ccd7f0$ffe0fec0$ffa2fc40$@com> Message-ID: <9EE68AE6-5AE2-4097-AE87-E850AFA8D474@anarchie.org.uk> Hello Margaret, The Duplicate command is in the File menu. It hasn't got a shortcut, but if you use it a lot, you can create one in System Preferences. Having created a duplicate, go to the Finder and select that file. Press Return to be able to type in a new name for it, then press Return again and the name will be changed. Cheers, Anne On 21 Jan 2012, at 04:58, Margaret Booth wrote: > Hi! Anne > > Your right the save as command doesn't work anymore in text edit. I just > tried the shortcut key that Sara recommended in an email and it doesn't > work. Can you please tell me how to do Duplicate command which creates a > copy of the file with the word Copy appended to the filename and how do I > change the filename in the Finder. I hope you can help. > From anne at anarchie.org.uk Sat Jan 21 10:39:43 2012 From: anne at anarchie.org.uk (Anne Robertson) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:39:43 +0100 Subject: Simple questions from a Beginner In-Reply-To: <454BC1AE-7879-429C-B766-9B988741691D@sky.com> References: <3B382172-9B09-4FA7-8A14-481012B8530A@sky.com> <334F3931-D5DF-46FA-AD9C-E24B17251834@anarchie.org.uk> <454BC1AE-7879-429C-B766-9B988741691D@sky.com> Message-ID: Hello Christo, On 19 Jan 2012, at 20:26, Christo Thiardt wrote: > The cmd F Find command certainly highlights the sought test but I find that the VO cursor is actually nowhere near the actual word. Am I doing something wrong? Try just using the arrow keys without the VO keys. That's what I always do when editing. > As for the attachment issue: the RNIB mailed the attachment as PDF file and Adobe is not on my Mac as yet or, at least, I assume this is the problem as it merely says @mail busy@ and does not want to do anything else after cmd-y command. I have to "force quit" and this is a messy business! > You don't need Adobe to read PDF files. You have Preview already installed on your Mac. Try saving the attachment to your Desktop. When you open the message, do VO-Left arrow, then interact and navigate right. You should find a Save button. Do VO-Space on this and navigate the dialogue box as usual. Cheers, Anne From venables134 at btinternet.com Sat Jan 21 11:53:18 2012 From: venables134 at btinternet.com (Daniel McGee) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:53:18 +0000 Subject: text edit files In-Reply-To: References: <0E7AF37728C9445799D4F7592E50BE1D@CustomerPC> <7A8A1FDE-4BB9-4DC8-9B4A-79998DFBA039@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Cool thanks for letting me know Michael. Thanks Daniel On 21 Jan 2012, at 02:04, michael wrote: > It over rides the 1 before so just keeps up dating. > cheers Michael. > > -----Original Message----- From: Daniel McGee > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:58 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: text edit files > > Hi Michael, just wondering after you've given a file a name and use Command S to save it, does it keep adding another version to the document? > So to simply say this, do you get another file when you have saved it or does it override the one you are using so that in the 1st place you just have 1 file but keep doing Command S just saves over the top of it. > > Thanks > > Daniel > On 21 Jan 2012, at 01:16, michael wrote: > >> Well once i start a document in text edit i then go to save as give it a name. >> then each time i add to the document i then go to save a version or comand s. >> cheers Michael. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Lovette Yewchan >> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:39 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: text edit files >> >> Hi there. Can someone tell me what the difference in text edit between duplicating a file and saving a version? How do you edit a document and save it but only have one copy of the file? >> Thanks. >> Lovette >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From de.kf9hl at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 13:29:23 2012 From: de.kf9hl at gmail.com (Thomas McMahan) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:29:23 -0600 Subject: text edit files In-Reply-To: <7A8A1FDE-4BB9-4DC8-9B4A-79998DFBA039@btinternet.com> References: <0E7AF37728C9445799D4F7592E50BE1D@CustomerPC> <7A8A1FDE-4BB9-4DC8-9B4A-79998DFBA039@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <69993F75-40CC-4E10-9DB5-EF34B9ABF9F8@gmail.com> It will just save the revilement unless you choose to not save it. It won't create a second file. On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > Hi Michael, just wondering after you've given a file a name and use Command S to save it, does it keep adding another version to the document? > So to simply say this, do you get another file when you have saved it or does it override the one you are using so that in the 1st place you just have 1 file but keep doing Command S just saves over the top of it. > > Thanks > > Daniel > On 21 Jan 2012, at 01:16, michael wrote: > >> Well once i start a document in text edit i then go to save as give it a name. >> then each time i add to the document i then go to save a version or command s. >> cheers Michael. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Lovett Yewchan >> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 5:39 AM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: text edit files >> >> Hi there. Can someone tell me what the difference in text edit between duplicating a file and saving a version? How do you edit a document and save it but only have one copy of the file? >> Thanks. >> Lovette >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mmaslo1964 at swbell.net Sat Jan 21 15:13:55 2012 From: mmaslo1964 at swbell.net (Mike Maslo) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:13:55 -0600 Subject: wish there were a easy way to tag mp3s than in i tunes In-Reply-To: <3D98B781-AC6D-4517-8AC7-63E4DFDF4CA0@gmail.com> References: <6096DCF6-37C4-4D63-A277-655A7E7BCBF6@bluebottle.com> <3D98B781-AC6D-4517-8AC7-63E4DFDF4CA0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <765A5975-B056-4BB4-A450-B671F0DB993C@swbell.net> I know I will sound not smart but what is tagging and what is the purpose? Sorry for the stupid question Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > so far ther i s no app. I've looked and people just use itunes. to tag. I don't like it eather but I just deal with it. > > Take care. > On Jan 20, 2012, at 8:47 PM, krystal watson wrote: > >> when you have thousands of songs that need taging or mp3s its anoying to tag them in i tunes wish there was a app to do it for you that would make life easier i have millions of books that are not in books folder can any one help me with a ap? >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 17:19:18 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:19:18 -0800 Subject: wish there were a easy way to tag mp3s than in i tunes In-Reply-To: <765A5975-B056-4BB4-A450-B671F0DB993C@swbell.net> References: <6096DCF6-37C4-4D63-A277-655A7E7BCBF6@bluebottle.com> <3D98B781-AC6D-4517-8AC7-63E4DFDF4CA0@gmail.com> <765A5975-B056-4BB4-A450-B671F0DB993C@swbell.net> Message-ID: Tagging is when you put int he mp3 as ID3 tags artist, title, album, comments, etc that way players will be able to puck them up,and if you broadcast the players of those listeners will pick it up to. Sarah Alawami If you need editing done on a small narration project go to http://music.marrie.org/audio_mastering for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Jan 21, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: > I know I will sound not smart but what is tagging and what is the purpose? > > Sorry for the stupid question > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 20, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> so far ther i s no app. I've looked and people just use itunes. to tag. I don't like it eather but I just deal with it. >> >> Take care. >> On Jan 20, 2012, at 8:47 PM, krystal watson wrote: >> >>> when you have thousands of songs that need taging or mp3s its anoying to tag them in i tunes wish there was a app to do it for you that would make life easier i have millions of books that are not in books folder can any one help me with a ap? >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sat Jan 21 17:24:42 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:24:42 -0500 Subject: Computer crashing when trash emptyed Message-ID: Dear Listers, In a few hours I'll head to a Apple store because this problem seems beyond me. When I empty the trash my computer becomes locked up. Finder says busy and I can not re lunch finder it just keeps saying busy. Re starting the computer puts me in the same position with finder locked. I have talked to Apple and as a result re installed Lyon. the problem persists. I have found one work around. With sighted help I learned that the trash wind is open. If I turn off Voice Over and press command W to close the window then re open Voice over I get my finder back. This only seems to happen if I empty the trash when the trash is actually empty all ready. For example before I clone my drive for a backup I might empty the trash. If it happens to be empty my finder crashes and locks up my computer. My biggest concern is that this might be a sign that something might be wrong with my hardware. I still have Apple care for a few months so want to resolve the issue. I know this is a strange concern. It seems like I have had a series of issues with trash over the last few years. Any tips on how to resolve this would be appreciated. Again I have re installed Lyon and I have done repair disk. I have also removed my voice Over preferences and then imported them back. this did not help. Eric Caron From christoap at sky.com Sat Jan 21 18:19:54 2012 From: christoap at sky.com (Christo Thiardt) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:19:54 +0000 Subject: Braille Refreshable Display Message-ID: Hello is it possible to use one's Braille Display to read through a document from top to bottom without using VO or normal cursor keys? If so, can someone advise? Many thanks. Christo From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Jan 21 19:41:12 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:41:12 +0000 Subject: Braille Refreshable Display In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F1B14D8.7080506@techno-chat.net> You will have to use VO to drive the display but otherwise I can't see why not. On 21/01/2012 18:19, Christo Thiardt wrote: > Hello > > is it possible to use one's Braille Display to read through a document from top to bottom without using VO or normal cursor keys? > > If so, can someone advise? > > Many thanks. > > Christo > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Jan 21 19:42:19 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:42:19 +0000 Subject: Computer crashing when trash emptyed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F1B151B.5060602@techno-chat.net> When you reinstalled Lion, did you first use Disk Utility to erase the Mac OS HD partition? On 21/01/2012 17:24, Eric Caron wrote: > Dear Listers, > > In a few hours I'll head to a Apple store because this problem seems beyond me. When I empty the trash my computer becomes locked up. Finder says busy and I can not re lunch finder it just keeps saying busy. Re starting the computer puts me in the same position with finder locked. I have talked to Apple and as a result re installed Lyon. the problem persists. > > I have found one work around. With sighted help I learned that the trash wind is open. If I turn off Voice Over and press command W to close the window then re open Voice over I get my finder back. This only seems to happen if I empty the trash when the trash is actually empty all ready. For example before I clone my drive for a backup I might empty the trash. If it happens to be empty my finder crashes and locks up my computer. > > My biggest concern is that this might be a sign that something might be wrong with my hardware. I still have Apple care for a few months so want to resolve the issue. > > I know this is a strange concern. It seems like I have had a series of issues with trash over the last few years. > > Any tips on how to resolve this would be appreciated. > > Again I have re installed Lyon and I have done repair disk. > I have also removed my voice Over preferences and then imported them back. this did not help. > > Eric Caron > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From james.austin at mac-access.net Sat Jan 21 19:44:54 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:44:54 +0000 Subject: Computer crashing when trash emptyed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <36B1F6FD-EFEE-4978-A668-C44B64821505@mac-access.net> Hi Eric, I can suggest two things; 1. When you remove your VoiceOver permissions, don't reimport them, simply recreate them from scratch. 2. Have you tried running the Apple Hardware Test? You'll need sighted help for this though. O and have you tried deleting the trash in Safe Mode? I am not sure if this is possible though. TC :) J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 21 Jan 2012, at 17:24, Eric Caron wrote: > Dear Listers, > > In a few hours I'll head to a Apple store because this problem seems beyond me. When I empty the trash my computer becomes locked up. Finder says busy and I can not re lunch finder it just keeps saying busy. Re starting the computer puts me in the same position with finder locked. I have talked to Apple and as a result re installed Lyon. the problem persists. > > I have found one work around. With sighted help I learned that the trash wind is open. If I turn off Voice Over and press command W to close the window then re open Voice over I get my finder back. This only seems to happen if I empty the trash when the trash is actually empty all ready. For example before I clone my drive for a backup I might empty the trash. If it happens to be empty my finder crashes and locks up my computer. > > My biggest concern is that this might be a sign that something might be wrong with my hardware. I still have Apple care for a few months so want to resolve the issue. > > I know this is a strange concern. It seems like I have had a series of issues with trash over the last few years. > > Any tips on how to resolve this would be appreciated. > > Again I have re installed Lyon and I have done repair disk. > I have also removed my voice Over preferences and then imported them back. this did not help. > > Eric Caron > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From mike at busboom.at Sat Jan 21 19:54:15 2012 From: mike at busboom.at (Michael Busboom) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:54:15 +0100 Subject: seeing online status with Skype In-Reply-To: <4F19D0D4.3010508@techno-chat.net> References: <4F199D8D.1080809@techno-chat.net> <4F19AD22.3070908@gmail.com> <4F19C62B.6050905@techno-chat.net> <4F19D0D4.3010508@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Hello, Perhaps I am missing something in the thread, but I am using Skype Version 5.1.0.914 and the most recent iteration of Lion. I am able to hear both Online status, as well as mood messages. If I can help, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll keep out of the conversation since I didn't catch the beginning of the thread. I am sure that there are more recent versions of Skype, but I won't update since my current version is working flawlessly. Perhaps it was a rumor or perhaps it pertained to an iPhone version of Skype, but I am concerned that newer versions of Skype might not be as accessible. my iPhone version of Skype is working fine, too. :) Don't know what version it is offhand. By the way, if you are looking for Skype 2.8 for the Mac, you might try the following link: http://www.oldversions.com I checked there, and version 2.8 was still available. Enjoy the rest of the weekend and best regards, Mike On 20,Jan,2012, at 9:38 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > I was told Skype 2.8 for Mac OSX works fine on Lion but I don't know how you can get it. > > On 20/01/2012 19:53, chris hallsworth wrote: >> Wow that is no good in my opinion. Mood messages don't matter that much >> to me unless it is of some importance, like "please text before calling". >> >> On 20/01/2012 18:06, Mike Welty wrote: >>> This is for mac OSX >>> >>> On 1/20/2012 11:59, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>> Skype for iOS or Skype for Mac OSX? >>>> >>>> On 20/01/2012 02:35, Mike Welty wrote: >>>>> Hey all, >>>>> Just made a discovery earlier today in regards to seeing a contact's >>>>> online status in Skype. >>>>> If the person has a mood message, voiceover won't read if they have >>>>> online status or what ever they are but if they don't have any mood >>>>> test it seems too. Not sure if this a voiceover issue or a Skype one >>>>> or both. Just thought I'd pass along what I noticed. >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >> virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sat Jan 21 19:55:13 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:55:13 -0500 Subject: Computer crashing when trash emptyed In-Reply-To: <4F1B151B.5060602@techno-chat.net> References: <4F1B151B.5060602@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <1B9E543B-825F-4C2C-9F4C-FA243F85E254@Mac-Access.net> Hi Chris and others, No, I just ran the install app I had saved when I bought Lyon. I then ran software update and it downloaded a big Lyon combo update. I'm a bit afraid to delete my hard drive then install because of the loiscences and such I have for programs like VM fusion and Amadeus Pro. Also, I struggled to get VM fusion working with JAWS and really don't want to go through that again if I can avoid it! eRic Caron On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:42 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > When you reinstalled Lion, did you first use Disk Utility to erase the Mac OS HD partition? > > On 21/01/2012 17:24, Eric Caron wrote: >> Dear Listers, >> >> In a few hours I'll head to a Apple store because this problem seems beyond me. When I empty the trash my computer becomes locked up. Finder says busy and I can not re lunch finder it just keeps saying busy. Re starting the computer puts me in the same position with finder locked. I have talked to Apple and as a result re installed Lyon. the problem persists. >> >> I have found one work around. With sighted help I learned that the trash wind is open. If I turn off Voice Over and press command W to close the window then re open Voice over I get my finder back. This only seems to happen if I empty the trash when the trash is actually empty all ready. For example before I clone my drive for a backup I might empty the trash. If it happens to be empty my finder crashes and locks up my computer. >> >> My biggest concern is that this might be a sign that something might be wrong with my hardware. I still have Apple care for a few months so want to resolve the issue. >> >> I know this is a strange concern. It seems like I have had a series of issues with trash over the last few years. >> >> Any tips on how to resolve this would be appreciated. >> >> Again I have re installed Lyon and I have done repair disk. >> I have also removed my voice Over preferences and then imported them back. this did not help. >> >> Eric Caron >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 20:55:20 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:55:20 -0800 Subject: seeing online status with Skype In-Reply-To: References: <4F199D8D.1080809@techno-chat.net> <4F19AD22.3070908@gmail.com> <4F19C62B.6050905@techno-chat.net> <4F19D0D4.3010508@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: I think but I'm not sure if thatwould only work with growl but I'm still learning skype lol! Take care all. On Jan 21, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello, > > Perhaps I am missing something in the thread, but I am using Skype Version 5.1.0.914 and the most recent iteration of Lion. I am able to hear both Online status, as well as mood messages. If I can help, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll keep out of the conversation since I didn't catch the beginning of the thread. I am sure that there are more recent versions of Skype, but I won't update since my current version is working flawlessly. Perhaps it was a rumor or perhaps it pertained to an iPhone version of Skype, but I am concerned that newer versions of Skype might not be as accessible. my iPhone version of Skype is working fine, too. :) Don't know what version it is offhand. > > By the way, if you are looking for Skype 2.8 for the Mac, you might try the following link: > http://www.oldversions.com > I checked there, and version 2.8 was still available. > > Enjoy the rest of the weekend and best regards, > > Mike > > On 20,Jan,2012, at 9:38 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> I was told Skype 2.8 for Mac OSX works fine on Lion but I don't know how you can get it. >> >> On 20/01/2012 19:53, chris hallsworth wrote: >>> Wow that is no good in my opinion. Mood messages don't matter that much >>> to me unless it is of some importance, like "please text before calling". >>> >>> On 20/01/2012 18:06, Mike Welty wrote: >>>> This is for mac OSX >>>> >>>> On 1/20/2012 11:59, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>> Skype for iOS or Skype for Mac OSX? >>>>> >>>>> On 20/01/2012 02:35, Mike Welty wrote: >>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>> Just made a discovery earlier today in regards to seeing a contact's >>>>>> online status in Skype. >>>>>> If the person has a mood message, voiceover won't read if they have >>>>>> online status or what ever they are but if they don't have any mood >>>>>> test it seems too. Not sure if this a voiceover issue or a Skype one >>>>>> or both. Just thought I'd pass along what I noticed. >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sat Jan 21 21:00:45 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:00:45 -0500 Subject: Finder problem In-Reply-To: <18EBD40DC95D40EFBA32CE37377F7F83@karen796b6a58c> References: <838C3969-6A95-4147-829E-A95E214D8855@tznet.com> <18EBD40DC95D40EFBA32CE37377F7F83@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: John and others, John's suggestion also solved my problem with finder. After deleting the file my finder no longer crashes when I empty the trash. Thanks John! Eric On Jan 21, 2012, at 12:55 AM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > Hi John, > Thank you. You put me on the right path. I also trashed the com.apple.sidebarlists.plist file. Then, rather than reboot, I force quit Finder and relaunched. > > Fixed. > > Thank you again. I appreciate the reply and the help. > > Karen > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gunn" > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:27 PM > Subject: Re: Finder problem > > >> Karen: >> >> Go to home folder and under library go to preferences. >> >> Once there, look for com.apple.finder.plist and delete this file. >> >> Once you do this, do a reboot right way. Once you reboot this file will be recreated. >> >> Hope this works, I had a finder a few months ago and by deleting this file refreshes finder. >> >> John >> >> >> On Jan 20, 2012, at 3:29 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: >> >>> For any of you with any knowledge of Finder, I would appreciate help with a problem. >>> >>> In trying to learn how to successfully export a .mov file from Iphoto, I have made a change to Finder and did not realize it. Now, every time I try to arrow through the selections in the Sidebar, it automatically flips over to the Browser. I cannot now arrow through my Sidebar. >>> >>> As I said, any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Sat Jan 21 21:03:52 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:03:52 -0800 Subject: Finder problem In-Reply-To: References: <838C3969-6A95-4147-829E-A95E214D8855@tznet.com> <18EBD40DC95D40EFBA32CE37377F7F83@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: <611F1131-D8B5-4EA0-A344-CC1190E2EEB9@gmail.com> Oh wow. I have no idea how I'm going to remember all of these tricks and tips. lol! Take care. On Jan 21, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > John and others, > > John's suggestion also solved my problem with finder. After deleting the file my finder no longer crashes when I empty the trash. > > Thanks John! > > Eric > On Jan 21, 2012, at 12:55 AM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > >> Hi John, >> Thank you. You put me on the right path. I also trashed the com.apple.sidebarlists.plist file. Then, rather than reboot, I force quit Finder and relaunched. >> >> Fixed. >> >> Thank you again. I appreciate the reply and the help. >> >> Karen >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gunn" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:27 PM >> Subject: Re: Finder problem >> >> >>> Karen: >>> >>> Go to home folder and under library go to preferences. >>> >>> Once there, look for com.apple.finder.plist and delete this file. >>> >>> Once you do this, do a reboot right way. Once you reboot this file will be recreated. >>> >>> Hope this works, I had a finder a few months ago and by deleting this file refreshes finder. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2012, at 3:29 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: >>> >>>> For any of you with any knowledge of Finder, I would appreciate help with a problem. >>>> >>>> In trying to learn how to successfully export a .mov file from Iphoto, I have made a change to Finder and did not realize it. Now, every time I try to arrow through the selections in the Sidebar, it automatically flips over to the Browser. I cannot now arrow through my Sidebar. >>>> >>>> As I said, any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Karen >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sat Jan 21 21:06:22 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:06:22 -0500 Subject: Computer crashing when trash emptyed In-Reply-To: <1B9E543B-825F-4C2C-9F4C-FA243F85E254@Mac-Access.net> References: <4F1B151B.5060602@techno-chat.net> <1B9E543B-825F-4C2C-9F4C-FA243F85E254@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Hello to the helpful listers, Problem solved! John Gunn in another thread on the list today suggested deleting the com.Finder.plist file and while I was on the phone with Apple they suggested the same thing. I deleted it then logged out of my account and back in. That did it Finder is now working correctly with Voice Over. Thanks everyone. Oh, I was only able to do this because James Austin showed me yesterday how to expose the library folder in Lyon. Thanks James for getting me through that Terminal command. I don't love working in Terminal. Clearly putting that Library folder back in the home folder is a important thing to do for Voice Over users in Lyon. eric Caron On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Chris and others, > > No, I just ran the install app I had saved when I bought Lyon. I then ran software update and it downloaded a big Lyon combo update. > > I'm a bit afraid to delete my hard drive then install because of the loiscences and such I have for programs like VM fusion and Amadeus Pro. Also, I struggled to get VM fusion working with JAWS and really don't want to go through that again if I can avoid it! > > eRic Caron > On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:42 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> When you reinstalled Lion, did you first use Disk Utility to erase the Mac OS HD partition? >> >> On 21/01/2012 17:24, Eric Caron wrote: >>> Dear Listers, >>> >>> In a few hours I'll head to a Apple store because this problem seems beyond me. When I empty the trash my computer becomes locked up. Finder says busy and I can not re lunch finder it just keeps saying busy. Re starting the computer puts me in the same position with finder locked. I have talked to Apple and as a result re installed Lyon. the problem persists. >>> >>> I have found one work around. With sighted help I learned that the trash wind is open. If I turn off Voice Over and press command W to close the window then re open Voice over I get my finder back. This only seems to happen if I empty the trash when the trash is actually empty all ready. For example before I clone my drive for a backup I might empty the trash. If it happens to be empty my finder crashes and locks up my computer. >>> >>> My biggest concern is that this might be a sign that something might be wrong with my hardware. I still have Apple care for a few months so want to resolve the issue. >>> >>> I know this is a strange concern. It seems like I have had a series of issues with trash over the last few years. >>> >>> Any tips on how to resolve this would be appreciated. >>> >>> Again I have re installed Lyon and I have done repair disk. >>> I have also removed my voice Over preferences and then imported them back. this did not help. >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sat Jan 21 21:17:13 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:17:13 -0500 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Hi Courtney, I'm pretty sure you can access the written text in List Recorder from your PC or Mac, but I have not learned how to do that yet. I'm in the process of increasing my skills in this App and have started a series of podcasts designed to walk through the features. Once I get a few more done I'll let the list know. I've only finished one so far. I've given it to Blindcooltech.com but I'm concerned they may not be posting new submissions. I also sent it to the List Recorder developer and she did write to me and said she planned to post it on her site. the List Recorder site is sixth mode.com There are detailed tutorials there. Again I'm pretty sure you can move the text along with the title and recording but I have not tried it yet. I had good success in the past with both the email and save to dropbox functions. I also used the iTunes file sharing but need to refresh myself how to use it! Eric Caron On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text document or something? > Thanks, > Courtney > > > Sent from my macbook air > > On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> >> Hi Annie, >> >> I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. >> I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the Developer also keeps improving and adding features. >> >> I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. >> >> I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. >> >> The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so many features that you really need to take the time to read the documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use recorder and note taker. >> >> I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. >> >> You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. >> >> I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. >>> >>> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >>> >>> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Jan 21 21:23:12 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:23:12 +0000 Subject: seeing online status with Skype In-Reply-To: References: <4F199D8D.1080809@techno-chat.net> <4F19AD22.3070908@gmail.com> <4F19C62B.6050905@techno-chat.net> <4F19D0D4.3010508@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <4F1B2CC0.7070605@techno-chat.net> Lol! I love the name growl! So what does it growl at then? Lol! Only joking of course. On 21/01/2012 20:55, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I think but I'm not sure if thatwould only work with growl but I'm still learning skype lol! > > Take care all. > On Jan 21, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Perhaps I am missing something in the thread, but I am using Skype Version 5.1.0.914 and the most recent iteration of Lion. I am able to hear both Online status, as well as mood messages. If I can help, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll keep out of the conversation since I didn't catch the beginning of the thread. I am sure that there are more recent versions of Skype, but I won't update since my current version is working flawlessly. Perhaps it was a rumor or perhaps it pertained to an iPhone version of Skype, but I am concerned that newer versions of Skype might not be as accessible. my iPhone version of Skype is working fine, too. :) Don't know what version it is offhand. >> >> By the way, if you are looking for Skype 2.8 for the Mac, you might try the following link: >> http://www.oldversions.com >> I checked there, and version 2.8 was still available. >> >> Enjoy the rest of the weekend and best regards, >> >> Mike >> >> On 20,Jan,2012, at 9:38 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >>> I was told Skype 2.8 for Mac OSX works fine on Lion but I don't know how you can get it. >>> >>> On 20/01/2012 19:53, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>> Wow that is no good in my opinion. Mood messages don't matter that much >>>> to me unless it is of some importance, like "please text before calling". >>>> >>>> On 20/01/2012 18:06, Mike Welty wrote: >>>>> This is for mac OSX >>>>> >>>>> On 1/20/2012 11:59, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>>>> Skype for iOS or Skype for Mac OSX? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 20/01/2012 02:35, Mike Welty wrote: >>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>> Just made a discovery earlier today in regards to seeing a contact's >>>>>>> online status in Skype. >>>>>>> If the person has a mood message, voiceover won't read if they have >>>>>>> online status or what ever they are but if they don't have any mood >>>>>>> test it seems too. Not sure if this a voiceover issue or a Skype one >>>>>>> or both. Just thought I'd pass along what I noticed. >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>> virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>> visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sat Jan 21 21:23:48 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:23:48 +0000 Subject: Computer crashing when trash emptyed In-Reply-To: <1B9E543B-825F-4C2C-9F4C-FA243F85E254@Mac-Access.net> References: <4F1B151B.5060602@techno-chat.net> <1B9E543B-825F-4C2C-9F4C-FA243F85E254@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <4F1B2CE4.5000608@techno-chat.net> Ok I see you solved it by deleting a certain file. That's good to hear. On 21/01/2012 19:55, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Chris and others, > > No, I just ran the install app I had saved when I bought Lyon. I then ran software update and it downloaded a big Lyon combo update. > > I'm a bit afraid to delete my hard drive then install because of the loiscences and such I have for programs like VM fusion and Amadeus Pro. Also, I struggled to get VM fusion working with JAWS and really don't want to go through that again if I can avoid it! > > eRic Caron > On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:42 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> When you reinstalled Lion, did you first use Disk Utility to erase the Mac OS HD partition? >> >> On 21/01/2012 17:24, Eric Caron wrote: >>> Dear Listers, >>> >>> In a few hours I'll head to a Apple store because this problem seems beyond me. When I empty the trash my computer becomes locked up. Finder says busy and I can not re lunch finder it just keeps saying busy. Re starting the computer puts me in the same position with finder locked. I have talked to Apple and as a result re installed Lyon. the problem persists. >>> >>> I have found one work around. With sighted help I learned that the trash wind is open. If I turn off Voice Over and press command W to close the window then re open Voice over I get my finder back. This only seems to happen if I empty the trash when the trash is actually empty all ready. For example before I clone my drive for a backup I might empty the trash. If it happens to be empty my finder crashes and locks up my computer. >>> >>> My biggest concern is that this might be a sign that something might be wrong with my hardware. I still have Apple care for a few months so want to resolve the issue. >>> >>> I know this is a strange concern. It seems like I have had a series of issues with trash over the last few years. >>> >>> Any tips on how to resolve this would be appreciated. >>> >>> Again I have re installed Lyon and I have done repair disk. >>> I have also removed my voice Over preferences and then imported them back. this did not help. >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From gunn at tznet.com Sat Jan 21 22:16:50 2012 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:16:50 -0600 Subject: Computer crashing when trash emptyed In-Reply-To: <1B9E543B-825F-4C2C-9F4C-FA243F85E254@Mac-Access.net> References: <4F1B151B.5060602@techno-chat.net> <1B9E543B-825F-4C2C-9F4C-FA243F85E254@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Eric: Try this because I think it's a finder issue. Go to your home folder, library/preferences, and delete com.apple.plist. Then either force quit Finder or reboot. Take care, John On Jan 21, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Chris and others, > > No, I just ran the install app I had saved when I bought Lyon. I then ran software update and it downloaded a big Lyon combo update. > > I'm a bit afraid to delete my hard drive then install because of the loiscences and such I have for programs like VM fusion and Amadeus Pro. Also, I struggled to get VM fusion working with JAWS and really don't want to go through that again if I can avoid it! > > eRic Caron > On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:42 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> When you reinstalled Lion, did you first use Disk Utility to erase the Mac OS HD partition? >> >> On 21/01/2012 17:24, Eric Caron wrote: >>> Dear Listers, >>> >>> In a few hours I'll head to a Apple store because this problem seems beyond me. When I empty the trash my computer becomes locked up. Finder says busy and I can not re lunch finder it just keeps saying busy. Re starting the computer puts me in the same position with finder locked. I have talked to Apple and as a result re installed Lyon. the problem persists. >>> >>> I have found one work around. With sighted help I learned that the trash wind is open. If I turn off Voice Over and press command W to close the window then re open Voice over I get my finder back. This only seems to happen if I empty the trash when the trash is actually empty all ready. For example before I clone my drive for a backup I might empty the trash. If it happens to be empty my finder crashes and locks up my computer. >>> >>> My biggest concern is that this might be a sign that something might be wrong with my hardware. I still have Apple care for a few months so want to resolve the issue. >>> >>> I know this is a strange concern. It seems like I have had a series of issues with trash over the last few years. >>> >>> Any tips on how to resolve this would be appreciated. >>> >>> Again I have re installed Lyon and I have done repair disk. >>> I have also removed my voice Over preferences and then imported them back. this did not help. >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >>> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From gunn at tznet.com Sat Jan 21 22:17:39 2012 From: gunn at tznet.com (John Gunn) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:17:39 -0600 Subject: Finder problem In-Reply-To: References: <838C3969-6A95-4147-829E-A95E214D8855@tznet.com> <18EBD40DC95D40EFBA32CE37377F7F83@karen796b6a58c> Message-ID: Oops, I sent you a reply before I saw the below message so disregard. On Jan 21, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > John and others, > > John's suggestion also solved my problem with finder. After deleting the file my finder no longer crashes when I empty the trash. > > Thanks John! > > Eric > On Jan 21, 2012, at 12:55 AM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > >> Hi John, >> Thank you. You put me on the right path. I also trashed the com.apple.sidebarlists.plist file. Then, rather than reboot, I force quit Finder and relaunched. >> >> Fixed. >> >> Thank you again. I appreciate the reply and the help. >> >> Karen >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gunn" >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:27 PM >> Subject: Re: Finder problem >> >> >>> Karen: >>> >>> Go to home folder and under library go to preferences. >>> >>> Once there, look for com.apple.finder.plist and delete this file. >>> >>> Once you do this, do a reboot right way. Once you reboot this file will be recreated. >>> >>> Hope this works, I had a finder a few months ago and by deleting this file refreshes finder. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2012, at 3:29 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: >>> >>>> For any of you with any knowledge of Finder, I would appreciate help with a problem. >>>> >>>> In trying to learn how to successfully export a .mov file from Iphoto, I have made a change to Finder and did not realize it. Now, every time I try to arrow through the selections in the Sidebar, it automatically flips over to the Browser. I cannot now arrow through my Sidebar. >>>> >>>> As I said, any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Karen >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Jan 22 03:42:34 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:42:34 -0500 Subject: why when you tag a file does it not go where its ment to In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Because, the tags don't determine where the files are located. If you want the file to actually be moved to it's new classification, you need to click on the options tab, then make the appropriate changes. After that, the files will be moved into the proper places in your collections. From tsiegel at softcon.com Sun Jan 22 03:50:06 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:50:06 -0500 Subject: wish there were a easy way to tag mp3s than in i tunes In-Reply-To: <6096DCF6-37C4-4D63-A277-655A7E7BCBF6@bluebottle.com> References: <6096DCF6-37C4-4D63-A277-655A7E7BCBF6@bluebottle.com> Message-ID: <39B3C98C-6D0F-4B70-BC2C-6558D7FCFEF4@softcon.com> Tagging files in itunes does nothing to the files themselves, so even if you take the time to tag each and every one of your files, the only place those changes get recorded is your itunes xml file that contains all the info for your music files. The actual mp3/m4a/ whatever files themselves do not get modified, so if your goal is to modify the tags within the files themselves, then you'll need to use some other program to do the tagging. hth. From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 22 06:37:48 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:37:48 -0800 Subject: wish there were a easy way to tag mp3s than in i tunes In-Reply-To: <39B3C98C-6D0F-4B70-BC2C-6558D7FCFEF4@softcon.com> References: <6096DCF6-37C4-4D63-A277-655A7E7BCBF6@bluebottle.com> <39B3C98C-6D0F-4B70-BC2C-6558D7FCFEF4@softcon.com> Message-ID: Ok having said that is there a free program ike Mp3Tag that will do what we both want? Again, googling only brings up forum posts about itunes. lol! Take care all. On Jan 21, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Tagging files in itunes does nothing to the files themselves, so even if you take the time to tag each and every one of your files, the only place those changes get recorded is your itunes xml file that contains all the info for your music files. The actual mp3/m4a/whatever files themselves do not get modified, so if your goal is to modify the tags within the files themselves, then you'll need to use some other program to do the tagging. > hth. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Sun Jan 22 11:29:30 2012 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:29:30 +0100 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <52895055-071F-4D7F-9B03-3AA0845EFD36@gmail.com> Hi. Thank you to all of you for suggesting apps for recording. I have played a little with list recorder now, and it is a very great program. What I really like is that I can have some text in the same window as I am recording. Sorry for the misspelling i did in a previous mail, english is not my primary language at all, I am danish. Best regards Annie. Den Jan 21, 2012 kl. 10:17 PM skrev Eric Caron: > Hi Courtney, > > I'm pretty sure you can access the written text in List Recorder from your PC or Mac, but I have not learned how to do that yet. I'm in the process of increasing my skills in this App and have started a series of podcasts designed to walk through the features. Once I get a few more done I'll let the list know. I've only finished one so far. I've given it to Blindcooltech.com but I'm concerned they may not be posting new submissions. I also sent it to the List Recorder developer and she did write to me and said she planned to post it on her site. the List Recorder site is sixth mode.com There are detailed tutorials there. > > Again I'm pretty sure you can move the text along with the title and recording but I have not tried it yet. I had good success in the past with both the email and save to dropbox functions. I also used the iTunes file sharing but need to refresh myself how to use it! > > Eric Caron > On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text document or something? >> Thanks, >> Courtney >> >> >> Sent from my macbook air >> >> On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Annie, >>> >>> I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. >>> I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the Developer also keeps improving and adding features. >>> >>> I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. >>> >>> I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. >>> >>> The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so many features that you really need to take the time to read the documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use recorder and note taker. >>> >>> I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. >>> >>> You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. >>> >>> I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >>> >>>> Hi. >>>> >>>> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. >>>> >>>> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >>>> >>>> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >>>> >>>> Best regards Annie. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Jan 22 16:01:00 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:01:00 -0500 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: <52895055-071F-4D7F-9B03-3AA0845EFD36@gmail.com> References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> <52895055-071F-4D7F-9B03-3AA0845EFD36@gmail.com> Message-ID: <92602F54-4AEB-4C3B-AD3D-074F132CAACB@Mac-Access.net> Hi Annie, Courtney and others, Courtney had asked about getting the text from List Recorder to the computer. I found the answer and in typical List Recorder fashion it is easy. When you create a List recorder item it can have audio, a title, and text. If you want that information on your computer you can move it in a few different ways. the easiest I have found is to: Open the item tap on the actions button tap on email the title of the item becomes the subject, the text area becomes the body of the email, and the audio is a attachment. send it to yourself and you are all set. Remember the audio is in the iPhone default format so if you are using a PC you may want to change the recording default in settings to .WAV. Annie, I've been reading your posts for a long time and never picked up that you were using English as a second language! I've been studying French for a few years now and could never communicate on a French email list! I look forward to your future posts. Though I have both recorders you are now using I currently only use List Recorder on a regular bases. If I can help please let me know. I could offer you my first podcast but it is rather elementary even describing how to download the full version and how to do simple things like create lists and check and uncheck items. If folks want it I can offer it to Gordon or just put out a dropbox link to it. Oh! to use the email function you will need the full version of List Recorder. Best. eRic Caron On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:29 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > > Thank you to all of you for suggesting apps for recording. I have played a little with list recorder now, and it is a very great program. What I really like is that I can have some text in the same window as I am recording. > > Sorry for the misspelling i did in a previous mail, english is not my primary language at all, I am danish. > > Best regards Annie. > Den Jan 21, 2012 kl. 10:17 PM skrev Eric Caron: > >> Hi Courtney, >> >> I'm pretty sure you can access the written text in List Recorder from your PC or Mac, but I have not learned how to do that yet. I'm in the process of increasing my skills in this App and have started a series of podcasts designed to walk through the features. Once I get a few more done I'll let the list know. I've only finished one so far. I've given it to Blindcooltech.com but I'm concerned they may not be posting new submissions. I also sent it to the List Recorder developer and she did write to me and said she planned to post it on her site. the List Recorder site is sixth mode.com There are detailed tutorials there. >> >> Again I'm pretty sure you can move the text along with the title and recording but I have not tried it yet. I had good success in the past with both the email and save to dropbox functions. I also used the iTunes file sharing but need to refresh myself how to use it! >> >> Eric Caron >> On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text document or something? >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney >>> >>> >>> Sent from my macbook air >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Annie, >>>> >>>> I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. >>>> I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the Developer also keeps improving and adding features. >>>> >>>> I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. >>>> >>>> I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. >>>> >>>> The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so many features that you really need to take the time to read the documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use recorder and note taker. >>>> >>>> I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. >>>> >>>> You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. >>>> >>>> I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. >>>> >>>> Eric Caron >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> >>>>> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. >>>>> >>>>> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >>>>> >>>>> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From roger.firman at btinternet.com Sun Jan 22 16:48:59 2012 From: roger.firman at btinternet.com (Roger Firman) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:48:59 -0000 Subject: Reading .rtf files on the Mac Message-ID: Hello, What do people recommend for reading .rtf files please? Regards, Roger. From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Jan 22 16:50:47 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:50:47 +0000 Subject: Reading .rtf files on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi' text eddit reads them fine. Ian McNamara From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 22 16:52:19 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:52:19 +0000 Subject: Reading .rtf files on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98D26658-D31D-4BA6-89E8-A690A56CA201@mac-access.net> Hi Roger, TextEdit, which comes with OS X by default will read RTF. You might also wish to try Pages, or Nisus Writer, although the latter are paid products. HTH TC :) J On 22 Jan 2012, at 16:48, Roger Firman wrote: > Hello, > > What do people recommend for reading .rtf files please? > > Regards, > > Roger. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Sun Jan 22 16:55:40 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:55:40 +0000 Subject: Reading .rtf files on the Mac In-Reply-To: <98D26658-D31D-4BA6-89E8-A690A56CA201@mac-access.net> References: <98D26658-D31D-4BA6-89E8-A690A56CA201@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <61F9BF79-4461-4E4A-8872-413EF0580ABA@googlemail.com> Hi, thanks for confirming what i thought smiley. Only know that as when i create a document in text eddit that's what it always is. Ian McNamara From james.austin at mac-access.net Sun Jan 22 16:59:02 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:59:02 +0000 Subject: Reading .rtf files on the Mac In-Reply-To: <61F9BF79-4461-4E4A-8872-413EF0580ABA@googlemail.com> References: <98D26658-D31D-4BA6-89E8-A690A56CA201@mac-access.net> <61F9BF79-4461-4E4A-8872-413EF0580ABA@googlemail.com> Message-ID: No problem. FYI, RTF, like PDF, is native to OS X You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 22 Jan 2012, at 16:55, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi, thanks for confirming what i thought smiley. Only know that as when i create a document in text eddit that's what it always is. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Sun Jan 22 17:52:00 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:52:00 +0000 Subject: Reading .rtf files on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F1C4CC0.1030905@techno-chat.net> I heard Text Edit reads them fine, but what about Beans? Asking as this was a recommended free Word Processor alongside Text Edit. Please advise. Thanks! On 22/01/2012 16:48, Roger Firman wrote: > Hello, > > What do people recommend for reading .rtf files please? > > Regards, > > Roger. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sun Jan 22 19:05:38 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:05:38 -0000 Subject: Reading .rtf files on the Mac In-Reply-To: <4F1C4CC0.1030905@techno-chat.net> References: <4F1C4CC0.1030905@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Beam does fine with rtf also. In fact I think it is the default format. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 22 January 2012 17:52 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Reading .rtf files on the Mac I heard Text Edit reads them fine, but what about Beans? Asking as this was a recommended free Word Processor alongside Text Edit. Please advise. Thanks! On 22/01/2012 16:48, Roger Firman wrote: > Hello, > > What do people recommend for reading .rtf files please? > > Regards, > > Roger. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 22 19:08:32 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:08:32 -0800 Subject: Bugs & Fixes: Re-running on empty | Macworld Message-ID: This was a bug that happens in 10.5 but here is some info on it anyway. http://www.macworld.com/article/164922/2012/01/rerunning_on_empty.html#lsrc.rss_howto From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Sun Jan 22 19:46:47 2012 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:46:47 +0100 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: <92602F54-4AEB-4C3B-AD3D-074F132CAACB@Mac-Access.net> References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> <52895055-071F-4D7F-9B03-3AA0845EFD36@gmail.com> <92602F54-4AEB-4C3B-AD3D-074F132CAACB@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <6CFCA1EC-D818-4B5A-BF68-B854C95476AD@gmail.com> Hi. You will also need the full version of list recorder to record more than 10 seconds. It is not as difficult to work with list recorder as it first looks. I got a lot of knowledge by reading the quick guide that's in the app, when you download it. I miss a few features in list recorder. I miss recording level control and setting. I have also found an app, that I will try to figure out, if the developer wil change a few things, so it will become accessible. When I have got an answer, I will tell more about it. Best regards Annie. Den Jan 22, 2012 kl. 5:01 PM skrev Eric Caron: > Hi Annie, Courtney and others, > > Courtney had asked about getting the text from List Recorder to the computer. I found the answer and in typical List Recorder fashion it is easy. > When you create a List recorder item it can have audio, a title, and text. If you want that information on your computer you can move it in a few different ways. the easiest I have found is to: > > Open the item > tap on the actions button > tap on email > the title of the item becomes the subject, the text area becomes the body of the email, and the audio is a attachment. > send it to yourself and you are all set. > > Remember the audio is in the iPhone default format so if you are using a PC you may want to change the recording default in settings to .WAV. > > Annie, > > I've been reading your posts for a long time and never picked up that you were using English as a second language! I've been studying French for a few years now and could never communicate on a French email list! > > I look forward to your future posts. > > Though I have both recorders you are now using I currently only use List Recorder on a regular bases. If I can help please let me know. > > I could offer you my first podcast but it is rather elementary even describing how to download the full version and how to do simple things like create lists and check and uncheck items. > > If folks want it I can offer it to Gordon or just put out a dropbox link to it. > > Oh! > > to use the email function you will need the full version of List Recorder. > > Best. > > eRic Caron > > > On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:29 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> Thank you to all of you for suggesting apps for recording. I have played a little with list recorder now, and it is a very great program. What I really like is that I can have some text in the same window as I am recording. >> >> Sorry for the misspelling i did in a previous mail, english is not my primary language at all, I am danish. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> Den Jan 21, 2012 kl. 10:17 PM skrev Eric Caron: >> >>> Hi Courtney, >>> >>> I'm pretty sure you can access the written text in List Recorder from your PC or Mac, but I have not learned how to do that yet. I'm in the process of increasing my skills in this App and have started a series of podcasts designed to walk through the features. Once I get a few more done I'll let the list know. I've only finished one so far. I've given it to Blindcooltech.com but I'm concerned they may not be posting new submissions. I also sent it to the List Recorder developer and she did write to me and said she planned to post it on her site. the List Recorder site is sixth mode.com There are detailed tutorials there. >>> >>> Again I'm pretty sure you can move the text along with the title and recording but I have not tried it yet. I had good success in the past with both the email and save to dropbox functions. I also used the iTunes file sharing but need to refresh myself how to use it! >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text document or something? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Courtney >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my macbook air >>>> >>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Annie, >>>>> >>>>> I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. >>>>> I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the Developer also keeps improving and adding features. >>>>> >>>>> I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. >>>>> >>>>> I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. >>>>> >>>>> The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so many features that you really need to take the time to read the documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use recorder and note taker. >>>>> >>>>> I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. >>>>> >>>>> You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. >>>>> >>>>> I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. >>>>> >>>>> Eric Caron >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi. >>>>>> >>>>>> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >>>>>> >>>>>> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From d.griffith at btinternet.com Sun Jan 22 20:54:27 2012 From: d.griffith at btinternet.com (David Griffith) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:54:27 -0000 Subject: wish there were a easy way to tag mp3s than in i tunes In-Reply-To: References: <6096DCF6-37C4-4D63-A277-655A7E7BCBF6@bluebottle.com><39B3C98C-6D0F-4B70-BC2C-6558D7FCFEF4@softcon.com> Message-ID: <416E894A76F7411B89E7BDC9AEA68F65@acer4d025c48b8> It is not free, but if you have the Switch sound converter, this includes a capacity to edit the tags on the Mac. Nothing like the power of mp3tag on the windows side so I too would be in interested in a Mac utility. The easiest way to create a playlist I have found is to use the free VLC player. David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: 22 January 2012 06:38 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: wish there were a easy way to tag mp3s than in i tunes Ok having said that is there a free program ike Mp3Tag that will do what we both want? Again, googling only brings up forum posts about itunes. lol! Take care all. On Jan 21, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Tagging files in itunes does nothing to the files themselves, so even if you take the time to tag each and every one of your files, the only place those changes get recorded is your itunes xml file that contains all the info for your music files. The actual mp3/m4a/whatever files themselves do not get modified, so if your goal is to modify the tags within the files themselves, then you'll need to use some other program to do the tagging. > hth. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: or at the public Mail Archive: . Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: From marrie12 at gmail.com Sun Jan 22 21:11:13 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:11:13 -0800 Subject: wish there were a easy way to tag mp3s than in i tunes In-Reply-To: <416E894A76F7411B89E7BDC9AEA68F65@acer4d025c48b8> References: <6096DCF6-37C4-4D63-A277-655A7E7BCBF6@bluebottle.com><39B3C98C-6D0F-4B70-BC2C-6558D7FCFEF4@softcon.com> <416E894A76F7411B89E7BDC9AEA68F65@acer4d025c48b8> Message-ID: VLc works as a playlist maker but not as a playlist editor. but that's another subject for later. I'll keep googling as I want something as powerful as mp3tag editor that will do what it can do. Maybe it has a mac port someware? On Jan 22, 2012, at 12:54 PM, David Griffith wrote: > It is not free, but if you have the Switch sound converter, this includes a > capacity to edit the tags on the Mac. Nothing like the power of mp3tag on > the windows side so I too would be in interested in a Mac utility. > The easiest way to create a playlist I have found is to use the free VLC > player. > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-bounces at mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: 22 January 2012 06:38 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: wish there were a easy way to tag mp3s than in i tunes > > Ok having said that is there a free program ike Mp3Tag that will do what we > both want? Again, googling only brings up forum posts about itunes. lol! > > Take care all. > On Jan 21, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: > >> Tagging files in itunes does nothing to the files themselves, so even if > you take the time to tag each and every one of your files, the only place > those changes get recorded is your itunes xml file that contains all the > info for your music files. The actual mp3/m4a/whatever files themselves do > not get modified, so if your goal is to modify the tags within the files > themselves, then you'll need to use some other program to do the tagging. >> hth. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Sun Jan 22 21:37:01 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:37:01 -0500 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: <6CFCA1EC-D818-4B5A-BF68-B854C95476AD@gmail.com> References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> <52895055-071F-4D7F-9B03-3AA0845EFD36@gmail.com> <92602F54-4AEB-4C3B-AD3D-074F132CAACB@Mac-Access.net> <6CFCA1EC-D818-4B5A-BF68-B854C95476AD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <628097BA-118D-464F-BC9E-C9AB0BFAE18E@Mac-Access.net> Hi Annie, If you are looking for a way to have List Recorder recordings be done in different levels you actually can do that. Go to settings and tap on the recording level and you will find it is adjustable. The same is true of the type of recording. For example you can change it to .WAV. And you can change the Hertz from 8 to 44. You can also change to stereo if you have a external microphone. Is that the level adjustment you were missing in List Recorder? Eric Caron On Jan 22, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > > You will also need the full version of list recorder to record more than 10 seconds. > > It is not as difficult to work with list recorder as it first looks. I got a lot of knowledge by reading the quick guide that's in the app, when you download it. > > I miss a few features in list recorder. I miss recording level control and setting. > > I have also found an app, that I will try to figure out, if the developer wil change a few things, so it will become accessible. When I have got an answer, I will tell more about it. > > Best regards Annie. > Den Jan 22, 2012 kl. 5:01 PM skrev Eric Caron: > >> Hi Annie, Courtney and others, >> >> Courtney had asked about getting the text from List Recorder to the computer. I found the answer and in typical List Recorder fashion it is easy. >> When you create a List recorder item it can have audio, a title, and text. If you want that information on your computer you can move it in a few different ways. the easiest I have found is to: >> >> Open the item >> tap on the actions button >> tap on email >> the title of the item becomes the subject, the text area becomes the body of the email, and the audio is a attachment. >> send it to yourself and you are all set. >> >> Remember the audio is in the iPhone default format so if you are using a PC you may want to change the recording default in settings to .WAV. >> >> Annie, >> >> I've been reading your posts for a long time and never picked up that you were using English as a second language! I've been studying French for a few years now and could never communicate on a French email list! >> >> I look forward to your future posts. >> >> Though I have both recorders you are now using I currently only use List Recorder on a regular bases. If I can help please let me know. >> >> I could offer you my first podcast but it is rather elementary even describing how to download the full version and how to do simple things like create lists and check and uncheck items. >> >> If folks want it I can offer it to Gordon or just put out a dropbox link to it. >> >> Oh! >> >> to use the email function you will need the full version of List Recorder. >> >> Best. >> >> eRic Caron >> >> >> On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:29 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Thank you to all of you for suggesting apps for recording. I have played a little with list recorder now, and it is a very great program. What I really like is that I can have some text in the same window as I am recording. >>> >>> Sorry for the misspelling i did in a previous mail, english is not my primary language at all, I am danish. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> Den Jan 21, 2012 kl. 10:17 PM skrev Eric Caron: >>> >>>> Hi Courtney, >>>> >>>> I'm pretty sure you can access the written text in List Recorder from your PC or Mac, but I have not learned how to do that yet. I'm in the process of increasing my skills in this App and have started a series of podcasts designed to walk through the features. Once I get a few more done I'll let the list know. I've only finished one so far. I've given it to Blindcooltech.com but I'm concerned they may not be posting new submissions. I also sent it to the List Recorder developer and she did write to me and said she planned to post it on her site. the List Recorder site is sixth mode.com There are detailed tutorials there. >>>> >>>> Again I'm pretty sure you can move the text along with the title and recording but I have not tried it yet. I had good success in the past with both the email and save to dropbox functions. I also used the iTunes file sharing but need to refresh myself how to use it! >>>> >>>> Eric Caron >>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text document or something? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Courtney >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my macbook air >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Annie, >>>>>> >>>>>> I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. >>>>>> I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the Developer also keeps improving and adding features. >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. >>>>>> >>>>>> I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. >>>>>> >>>>>> The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so many features that you really need to take the time to read the documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use recorder and note taker. >>>>>> >>>>>> I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric Caron >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From jdawg1983 at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 01:24:50 2012 From: jdawg1983 at gmail.com (joe quinn) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:24:50 -0600 Subject: lost sound, no speech. help ASAP Message-ID: <1CB6AA58991B4C3FA641410D6BA30BF4@joseph1> i was playing around with the sound setting in system prefs on the mac, and chose a soundcard that's not the default one. i have no speech now as a result... any way to get it back to the headphones or whatever the default one is/was? thanks From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 02:04:00 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:04:00 -0800 Subject: lost sound, no speech. help ASAP In-Reply-To: <1CB6AA58991B4C3FA641410D6BA30BF4@joseph1> References: <1CB6AA58991B4C3FA641410D6BA30BF4@joseph1> Message-ID: <03221A2E-3EDF-4B10-995F-89663B9CB92D@gmail.com> Try hitting fn plus option f12 and if that does not work option 12. Then vo right I think 5 times and up arrow. to the default thing. I might be wrong on the number of vo right arrows though. On Jan 22, 2012, at 5:24 PM, joe quinn wrote: > i was playing around with the sound setting in system prefs on the mac, and chose a soundcard that's not the default one. i have no speech now as a result... any way to get it back to the headphones or whatever the default one is/was? thanks > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From margaretebooth at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 05:04:18 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:04:18 +1100 Subject: Creating folders on my external hard drive Message-ID: <-6899814709994747087@unknownmsgid> I'm trying to create a folder on my external hard drive and I couldn't. I tell you what I did and maybe someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong. On the desktop I went to my external hard drive and pressed command plus O to open it and then I open the table and went to a folder and opened it. Then I pressed shift plus command plus N to create a new folder but all that happened was a ding noice. Is there a different shortcut key to bring up the edit field so I can type in the name of the folder? I hope someone can help. Margaret Sent from my iPhone From 1smartdog at cox.net Mon Jan 23 06:52:32 2012 From: 1smartdog at cox.net (1SmartDog@cox.net) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:52:32 -0600 Subject: Quick time 7 and VO Message-ID: I am having some difficulty with Quick Time 7 and VO. Is anyone here using QT-7? Specifically, it appears that, even though I press VO-spacebar on the play button, the button does not activate. Thanks for any input. Karen From margaretebooth at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 09:11:40 2012 From: margaretebooth at gmail.com (Margaret Booth) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:11:40 +1100 Subject: finding Beam in app store Message-ID: <-4244236215493839426@unknownmsgid> I have just tried to find Beam the free word processing program in the app store on my mac book pro and I couldn't find it. I typed in Beam in search and it didn't come up. Can someone tell me how to find Beam in the app store. Margaret Sent from my iPhone From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Jan 23 09:57:45 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:57:45 +0000 Subject: itunes library. Message-ID: <8C3C14E2-08DF-4A9A-863C-9DEACC3DBF3A@googlemail.com> Hi i by accedant managed to deleet my itunes library and moved it from the trash by mistake. How ever i kept the media folder and still have my stuff. I have the new library created is there anyway i can inport the whole media folder with out doing everything sepratly thanks Ian McNamara From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Jan 23 10:26:19 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:26:19 +0000 Subject: voxie recorder question Message-ID: Hello, I have recently installed the voxie recorder on my iPhone. tis works well for recording short notes. I would now like to use it too record live music which will result in a largish file (too large to Email). How can I transfer this file onto my iMac, convert it to MP3, and add it to iTunes? Many thanks for any tips. Paul Hopewell From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Jan 23 10:32:04 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:32:04 +0000 Subject: itunes problem sorted. Message-ID: <90013B22-7F36-4A0F-895E-88589E29BC6F@googlemail.com> Hi all, sorted the problem i went in to the trash folder and found out that the library was still there. I must have emptied the trash before deleting it so got it back smiley. Ian McNamara From molliesdad87 at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 11:10:23 2012 From: molliesdad87 at gmail.com (Robert Hill) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 06:10:23 -0500 Subject: finding Beam in app store In-Reply-To: <-4244236215493839426@unknownmsgid> References: <-4244236215493839426@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <3DFA4715-53D3-4675-AFF3-9EF4ECC612DE@gmail.com> Hi Margaret and all, The name of the program is bean, like the vegetable. Take care. Bob Hill On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:11 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > I have just tried to find Beam the free word processing program in the > app store on my mac book pro and I couldn't find it. I typed in Beam > in search and it didn't come up. Can someone tell me how to find Beam > in the app store. > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Jan 23 12:18:01 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 02:18:01 -1000 Subject: voxie recorder question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FE54468-EE8A-4358-AE99-D374706EF734@mac.com> Hi Paul, To transfer your recordings from Voxie recorder via wireless, first make sure that your iPhone and computer are on the same wireless network, then double tap the "Recordings" button (third of five buttons at the bottom of the screen, and just above the Home button). If you are starting from the screen for a specific recording with the six-pack of control keys for "Record", "Play", "Erase", "Title", "Categorize", and "Status", followed by the playhead position indicator, you'll have to first leave this screen by double tapping the "Cancel" button at the bottom left, just beside the "Actions" button that you can use to email your recording. Then, depending on how you navigated to that screen, you'll either already be in a screen listing your recordings or you'll be able to navigate there via the "Recordings" button. If you navigate to the "Recordings" screen via the buttons, select your category, which can also be "All Recordings", and double tap it. Then, on the screen listing your recordings, there will be a "Voxie Sync" button near the bottom right corner of the screen, just above the row of five option buttons. Double tapping this button will give you an info screen that will tell you the IP address to point your computer's web browser to in order to access and transfer your recordings. This will be the four digit IP address of your iOS device -- the same one that would show up in the main settings menu under the detailed WiFi information for your device -- followed by a colon and the port number "8080". So, for example, my screen tells me to visit the web address: "10.0.1.3:8080" in my web browser and double tap the "Finished" button at the bottom of the screen when I am done. On your computer, in Safari, Chrome, or whatever web browser you're using, go to the address bar with Command+L, then type in the address that was given on your Voxie Sync screen, e.g., "10.0.1.3:8080" in my case, then press return. You will see a screen with a list of your recordings and their titles, dates, sizes, etc. from which you can select recordings that you want to download on your computer. When you're done just go back to your iPhone screen and double tap the "Finished" button to get out of the Voxie Sync screen. Recordings are done in AIFF format, so you'll have to import into iTunes and convert this to mp3. Voxie lets you specify the Audio Quality of recordings under the last item of the "Settings" screen, but if you change this from "Normal - 8kHz" to one of the higher quality settings (up to "CD Quality - 44kHz") the sizes can get rather large. I wrote up some detailed notes about using Voxie over two years ago. Apologies to Lynne and Gordon for referencing the Mail Archive posts on another list, but this predates the existence of the archive for this list, so I can't point to the posts I wrote about Voxie on this list. Here are the links: ? Tips for using the Voxie Pro app for recording on the iPhone/iPod Touch http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries at googlegroups.com/msg14822.html ? Re: Tips for using the Voxie Pro app for recording on the iPhone/iPod Touch http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries at googlegroups.com/msg14841.html ? Voxie Pro Recorder - how to delete recordings http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries at googlegroups.com/msg15111.html These outline using Express mode settings (recommended), the process of transferring recordings through Wi-Fi (your question), using the position slider to review recordings, or to change the point at which you want to append to an existing recording, and a few other items. Some of the instructions were replies to Windows users, so if there are explicit shortcuts mentioned for importing to iTunes with Control+O, change the use of the Control key (for Windows iTunes) to the Command key (for Macs). HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 23, 2012, at 00:26, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I have recently installed the voxie recorder on my iPhone. tis works well for recording short notes. I would now like to use it too record live music which will result in a largish file (too large to Email). How can I transfer this file onto my iMac, convert it to MP3, and add it to iTunes? > > Many thanks for any tips. > > Paul Hopewell > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Jan 23 12:24:26 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:24:26 +0000 Subject: Quick time 7 and VO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F1D517A.90303@techno-chat.net> Can't help you with this one but I am curious. Does the majority of you use QuickTime or iTunes to play your media? Asking as part of my mac research. Thanks! On 23/01/2012 06:52, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > I am having some difficulty with Quick Time 7 and VO. Is anyone here using QT-7? Specifically, it appears that, even though I press VO-spacebar on the play button, the button does not activate. > > Thanks for any input. > > Karen > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Jan 23 12:25:49 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:25:49 +0000 Subject: lost sound, no speech. help ASAP In-Reply-To: <03221A2E-3EDF-4B10-995F-89663B9CB92D@gmail.com> References: <1CB6AA58991B4C3FA641410D6BA30BF4@joseph1> <03221A2E-3EDF-4B10-995F-89663B9CB92D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F1D51CD.9000602@techno-chat.net> Right, so what does either Option-F12 or FN-Option-F12 do? On 23/01/2012 02:04, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Try hitting fn plus option f12 and if that does not work option 12. > > Then vo right I think 5 times and up arrow. to the default thing. I might be wrong on the number of vo right arrows though. > On Jan 22, 2012, at 5:24 PM, joe quinn wrote: > >> i was playing around with the sound setting in system prefs on the mac, and chose a soundcard that's not the default one. i have no speech now as a result... any way to get it back to the headphones or whatever the default one is/was? thanks >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > > From moriond at mac.com Mon Jan 23 13:06:56 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 03:06:56 -1000 Subject: Quick time 7 and VO In-Reply-To: <4F1D517A.90303@techno-chat.net> References: <4F1D517A.90303@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: Hi Karen and Chris, I assume that Karen is using QuickTime Player 7 because she wants direct access to the A/V control window and also to do AppleScripting controls for things like faster playback listening of podcasts and audiobooks, which you can't do with the current version of QuickTime since Snow Leopard. Either that, or she may have purchased QuickTime Pro for the additional authoring options in an earlier version of Mac OS X. I've only been using QuickTime Player 7 through AppleScripts/Automator workflows, but I just checked trying to start the "play" button with VoiceOver, and there is a bug with using VO-Space. If I route my mouse cursor to the play button and use VO-Shift-Space to click on "play", then the track will only play for as long as I continue to hold down the VO+Shift key controls. This seems to be one of those instances where you need a "hardware click" to work the controls. If you're set up to turn mouse keys on and off with 5 presses of the Option key, then just toggling mouse keys on and pressing the "i" key when your mouse cursor is focused on the "play" button of QuickTime Player 7 will work. This is my standard work-around for a "hardware click". Alternatively, if you're using the TrackPad, and have routed your mouse cursor to the "Play" button, you can simply double tap on the TrackPad to start playing if TrackPad Commander is off. (Again, somewhat weirdly, I can't navigate to the play control with TrackPad Commander on and start playing with a double tap.) This is in Snow Leopard, by the way. Once the track is playing, I can toggle on the A/V control window with Command+K and interact with the slider to control speed. For those of you wanting to use QuickTime Player 7, here's the Apple Knowledge Base Article on "Installing QuickTime Player 7 on Mac OS X v.10.6 or Later" that has a download link for Lion users: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3678 Probably obvious that I'm mostly using iTunes to play. You can also use VLC (which also lets you control play speed). Other people are using Cog. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 23, 2012, at 02:24, chris hallsworth wrote: > Can't help you with this one but I am curious. Does the majority of you use QuickTime or iTunes to play your media? Asking as part of my mac research. Thanks! > > On 23/01/2012 06:52, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: >> I am having some difficulty with Quick Time 7 and VO. Is anyone here using QT-7? Specifically, it appears that, even though I press VO-spacebar on the play button, the button does not activate. >> >> Thanks for any input. >> >> Karen From chojiro1990 at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 14:18:21 2012 From: chojiro1990 at gmail.com (Nicolai Svendsen) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:18:21 +0100 Subject: Special Characters with VoiceOver Message-ID: <51EAAA1B-E543-4CB0-ADF4-7F8BFF0DF4ED@gmail.com> Hi everyone, As you might know, Mac OS X has a ton of special characters built in, including the currently hugely popular Emoji. Emojis are, to be brief, Japanese emoticons or pictographs. Hundreds if not more of these exist, and an emoji keyboard can also be added to iOS which permits you to switch to it like any international keyboard layout. However, in the case of OS X, you have to drag them from the character pallet into any text field. While this can of course be done with the mouse, I haven't found a reliable way of doing this with VoiceOver so far. The characters won't show up for VoiceOver except the currently selected icon, so I'm wondering if anyone has actually found a successful way of using these. This of course does not just apply to Emojis, but any character in the CHaracter Pallet. I may just have missed the solution. I can do this with the mouse, but if VoiceOver tries to do anything with these they don't even show up anywhere. I'm hoping someone can help. Thanks! Regards, Nicolai From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Jan 23 14:43:01 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:43:01 +0000 Subject: Text files on the iPhone Message-ID: <4CC04F45-47B7-45E4-A0AE-3D5997AD08E4@hopewell.org.uk> Hello, I have details of a train journey I need to make on a TXT file on my iMac. Is it possible to transfer this to my iPhone and then view it on the iPhone to remind me of changes during the journey? In general can one move files of arbitrary file type to the iPhone and store them in a folder on the iPhone? This can be done via iTunes for certain file types but I am unclear whether it will work for TXCT and DOC files. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Jan 23 15:07:59 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:07:59 +0000 Subject: drop box. Message-ID: Hi all is there anyway to close dropbox with out sighted assistance. Ian McNamara From moopiecurran at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 15:58:46 2012 From: moopiecurran at gmail.com (Courtney Curran) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:58:46 -0500 Subject: Quick time 7 and VO In-Reply-To: <4F1D517A.90303@techno-chat.net> References: <4F1D517A.90303@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <17C2D85A-0B19-4215-9B7E-7CAB5732507B@gmail.com> Hi, I use itunes to play my music, but I use quicktime player 7, which seems to work fine with vo, to play my favorite internet radio streams. Courtney Sent from my macbook air On Jan 23, 2012, at 7:24 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > Can't help you with this one but I am curious. Does the majority of you use QuickTime or iTunes to play your media? Asking as part of my mac research. Thanks! > > On 23/01/2012 06:52, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: >> I am having some difficulty with Quick Time 7 and VO. Is anyone here using QT-7? Specifically, it appears that, even though I press VO-spacebar on the play button, the button does not activate. >> >> Thanks for any input. >> >> Karen >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 16:03:00 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:03:00 -0800 Subject: Quick time 7 and VO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <359A3B02-CE93-4693-8DE3-A79EBED70E48@gmail.com> There are a lot of issues with qt7 and lion that i"m waiting for apple to fix. I've reported them through there bug tracker but as always in my case they cannot reproduce the problem. We'll see if they fix it in 10.7.3. Take care all. On Jan 22, 2012, at 10:52 PM, 1SmartDog at cox.net wrote: > I am having some difficulty with Quick Time 7 and VO. Is anyone here using QT-7? Specifically, it appears that, even though I press VO-spacebar on the play button, the button does not activate. > > Thanks for any input. > > Karen > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 16:11:12 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:11:12 -0800 Subject: drop box. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C59A314-B9BD-42CD-BBA0-2369CC041572@gmail.com> Why when it just remains open and you don't really need to close it. In fact I have it starting up at start up. but if you want to close it go to the activity monitor under utilities and find dropbox and hit option cmd q to quit. On Jan 23, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hi all is there anyway to close dropbox with out sighted assistance. > > Ian McNamara > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 16:11:58 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:11:58 -0800 Subject: Text files on the iPhone In-Reply-To: <4CC04F45-47B7-45E4-A0AE-3D5997AD08E4@hopewell.org.uk> References: <4CC04F45-47B7-45E4-A0AE-3D5997AD08E4@hopewell.org.uk> Message-ID: <1F4F0DA3-C6F3-469F-B14A-3DF4C3022C6C@gmail.com> I would recomend plain text or notesy for this. both intagrate with dropbox and you can change everything on the fly and it will reflect back on your mac when you get home. Take care. On Jan 23, 2012, at 6:43 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hello, > I have details of a train journey I need to make on a TXT file on my iMac. Is it possible to transfer this to my iPhone and then view it on the iPhone to remind me of changes during the journey? > > In general can one move files of arbitrary file type to the iPhone and store them in a folder on the iPhone? This can be done via iTunes for certain file types but I am unclear whether it will work for TXCT and DOC files. > > Many thanks. > > Paul Hopewell > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 16:13:13 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:13:13 -0800 Subject: lost sound, no speech. help ASAP In-Reply-To: <4F1D51CD.9000602@techno-chat.net> References: <1CB6AA58991B4C3FA641410D6BA30BF4@joseph1> <03221A2E-3EDF-4B10-995F-89663B9CB92D@gmail.com> <4F1D51CD.9000602@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: I posted a tip on teh mac list last year but the iption plus function keys let you get to certain parts of the system prefs wiht ease. Just hit it from anyware and you are in one of the system pref options. On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:25 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > Right, so what does either Option-F12 or FN-Option-F12 do? > > On 23/01/2012 02:04, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> Try hitting fn plus option f12 and if that does not work option 12. >> >> Then vo right I think 5 times and up arrow. to the default thing. I might be wrong on the number of vo right arrows though. >> On Jan 22, 2012, at 5:24 PM, joe quinn wrote: >> >>> i was playing around with the sound setting in system prefs on the mac, and chose a soundcard that's not the default one. i have no speech now as a result... any way to get it back to the headphones or whatever the default one is/was? thanks >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> >> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 16:16:36 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:16:36 -0800 Subject: Creating folders on my external hard drive In-Reply-To: <-6899814709994747087@unknownmsgid> References: <-6899814709994747087@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <752313A9-C150-465F-9696-B66BBEA54A33@gmail.com> No there is not. I've had issues like this in the past and I can't tell you how they resolved themselves as they just fixed themselves a few months later. But make sure nothing is selected by hiting escape. then hit cmd shift n again to try. and create the folder. On Jan 22, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Margaret Booth wrote: > I'm trying to create a folder on my external hard drive and I > couldn't. I tell you what I did and maybe someone can tell me what I'm > doing wrong. > On the desktop I went to my external hard drive and pressed command > plus O to open it and then I open the table and went to a folder and > opened it. Then I pressed shift plus command plus N to create a new > folder but all that happened was a ding noice. Is there a different > shortcut key to bring up the edit field so I can type in the name of > the folder? I hope someone can help. > > Margaret > > > Sent from my iPhone > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From ianandriggs at googlemail.com Mon Jan 23 16:23:09 2012 From: ianandriggs at googlemail.com (Ian McNamara) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:23:09 +0000 Subject: net off agent. Message-ID: <46D79F24-4058-4FDA-84AB-56D0F22AD3BC@googlemail.com> Hi all can anyone tell me what this net off agent is? i keep getting it everytime i try and logg in to something in the finder. I can't get rid of it and have never had it before. thanks very much. Ian McNamara From chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net Mon Jan 23 16:36:34 2012 From: chris.hallsworth at techno-chat.net (chris hallsworth) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:36:34 +0000 Subject: Startup question Message-ID: <4F1D8C92.7010807@techno-chat.net> Hello all. Please can I ask, how would I go about making an application start automatically on the mac? Thanks! From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 16:44:43 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:44:43 -0800 Subject: Startup question In-Reply-To: <4F1D8C92.7010807@techno-chat.net> References: <4F1D8C92.7010807@techno-chat.net> Message-ID: <8AC57EAF-A35D-401C-B34B-F65832DF929A@gmail.com> Control click or hit vo shift m on the item in question, if it is on the doc, and click options, then click, start at log in. I might not have gotten that phrase right but it is close. On Jan 23, 2012, at 8:36 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: > Hello all. > Please can I ask, how would I go about making an application start automatically on the mac? > Thanks! > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Jan 23 17:50:45 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:50:45 +0000 Subject: voxie recorder question In-Reply-To: <4FE54468-EE8A-4358-AE99-D374706EF734@mac.com> References: <4FE54468-EE8A-4358-AE99-D374706EF734@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Esther, Many thanks for the information on how to transfer recordings from Voxie on the iPhone to iTunes on my iMac. It all worked as you describe. I now have to play the piano a bit better! I will also have to acquire an audio editor for my iMac so that I can split a single recording of multiple songs into separate recordings for each song and to also remove those annoying hesitations while I find the correct chord! Can you recommend an accessible audio editor (I do not have any audio editor installed)? WIll the audio editor work with the AIFF files created by Voxie? I imagine I would need to edit the source audio before converting the result to MP3 which presumably the audio editor would do. Many thanks for your help. Paul Hopewell On 23 Jan 2012, at 12:18, Esther wrote: > Hi Paul, > > To transfer your recordings from Voxie recorder via wireless, first make sure that your iPhone and computer are on the same wireless network, then double tap the "Recordings" button (third of five buttons at the bottom of the screen, and just above the Home button). If you are starting from the screen for a specific recording with the six-pack of control keys for "Record", "Play", "Erase", "Title", "Categorize", and "Status", followed by the playhead position indicator, you'll have to first leave this screen by double tapping the "Cancel" button at the bottom left, just beside the "Actions" button that you can use to email your recording. Then, depending on how you navigated to that screen, you'll either already be in a screen listing your recordings or you'll be able to navigate there via the "Recordings" button. If you navigate to the "Recordings" screen via the buttons, select your category, which can also be "All Recordings", and double tap it. Then, on the screen listing your recordings, there will be a "Voxie Sync" button near the bottom right corner of the screen, just above the row of five option buttons. Double tapping this button will give you an info screen that will tell you the IP address to point your computer's web browser to in order to access and transfer your recordings. This will be the four digit IP address of your iOS device -- the same one that would show up in the main settings menu under the detailed WiFi information for your device -- followed by a colon and the port number "8080". So, for example, my screen tells me to visit the web address: "10.0.1.3:8080" in my web browser and double tap the "Finished" button at the bottom of the screen when I am done. On your computer, in Safari, Chrome, or whatever web browser you're using, go to the address bar with Command+L, then type in the address that was given on your Voxie Sync screen, e.g., "10.0.1.3:8080" in my case, then press return. > > You will see a screen with a list of your recordings and their titles, dates, sizes, etc. from which you can select recordings that you want to download on your computer. When you're done just go back to your iPhone screen and double tap the "Finished" button to get out of the Voxie Sync screen. > > Recordings are done in AIFF format, so you'll have to import into iTunes and convert this to mp3. Voxie lets you specify the Audio Quality of recordings under the last item of the "Settings" screen, but if you change this from "Normal - 8kHz" to one of the higher quality settings (up to "CD Quality - 44kHz") the sizes can get rather large. > > I wrote up some detailed notes about using Voxie over two years ago. Apologies to Lynne and Gordon for referencing the Mail Archive posts on another list, but this predates the existence of the archive for this list, so I can't point to the posts I wrote about Voxie on this list. Here are the links: > ? Tips for using the Voxie Pro app for recording on the iPhone/iPod Touch > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries at googlegroups.com/msg14822.html > ? Re: Tips for using the Voxie Pro app for recording on the iPhone/iPod Touch > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries at googlegroups.com/msg14841.html > ? Voxie Pro Recorder - how to delete recordings > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries at googlegroups.com/msg15111.html > > These outline using Express mode settings (recommended), the process of transferring recordings through Wi-Fi (your question), using the position slider to review recordings, or to change the point at which you want to append to an existing recording, and a few other items. Some of the instructions were replies to Windows users, so if there are explicit shortcuts mentioned for importing to iTunes with Control+O, change the use of the Control key (for Windows iTunes) to the Command key (for Macs). > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Jan 23, 2012, at 00:26, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I have recently installed the voxie recorder on my iPhone. tis works well for recording short notes. I would now like to use it too record live music which will result in a largish file (too large to Email). How can I transfer this file onto my iMac, convert it to MP3, and add it to iTunes? >> >> Many thanks for any tips. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From hopewell at hopewell.org.uk Mon Jan 23 18:00:23 2012 From: hopewell at hopewell.org.uk (Paul Hopewell) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:00:23 +0000 Subject: Text files on the iPhone In-Reply-To: <1F4F0DA3-C6F3-469F-B14A-3DF4C3022C6C@gmail.com> References: <4CC04F45-47B7-45E4-A0AE-3D5997AD08E4@hopewell.org.uk> <1F4F0DA3-C6F3-469F-B14A-3DF4C3022C6C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880CF86E-6A08-4E16-A86A-F8CF94F107A5@hopewell.org.uk> HI Sarah, Interesting approach - I never thought of using drop box on the iPhone. I already have a drop box account which I use with my iMac so presumably I would have to install drop box on the iPhone and have it point to my already existing drop box account. If I did that would it mean that everything I have loaded into the drop box account via my iMac would get automatically downloaded into a drop box folder on my iPhone and vice versa? Best regards.... Paul Hopewell On 23 Jan 2012, at 16:11, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I would recomend plain text or notesy for this. both intagrate with dropbox and you can change everything on the fly and it will reflect back on your mac when you get home. > > Take care. > On Jan 23, 2012, at 6:43 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I have details of a train journey I need to make on a TXT file on my iMac. Is it possible to transfer this to my iPhone and then view it on the iPhone to remind me of changes during the journey? >> >> In general can one move files of arbitrary file type to the iPhone and store them in a folder on the iPhone? This can be done via iTunes for certain file types but I am unclear whether it will work for TXCT and DOC files. >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From moriond at mac.com Mon Jan 23 18:14:08 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:14:08 -1000 Subject: Text files on the iPhone In-Reply-To: <1F4F0DA3-C6F3-469F-B14A-3DF4C3022C6C@gmail.com> References: <4CC04F45-47B7-45E4-A0AE-3D5997AD08E4@hopewell.org.uk> <1F4F0DA3-C6F3-469F-B14A-3DF4C3022C6C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <17870C5A-97B6-45F4-834C-F5BA6A1A9FF8@mac.com> Hi Paul, There are lots of note taking apps for the iPhone that will integrate with Dropbox, and Sarah's suggestion of Plain Text or Notesy include two good choices. However, I'm going to suggest that you use an app called Simplenote instead, along with a free Mac desktop client for notes called Notational Velocity. If you want to, you can also have this arrangement set up to sync with Dropbox. Simplenote is optimized for text notes of the form of your TXT files and it is the only iOS note app that I'm aware of that supports searching both for notes that match your search terms and for finding matching positions of text within the individual notes using VoiceOver. I think we discussed this on list earlier -- at least I recall an exchange with Dane about Simplenote vs. Evernote that is in the archives: ? Simplenote vs. Evernote [was Re: Printing from my Ipad] http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access at mac-access.net/msg03148.html With the basic free Simplenote app you get a secure account for your notes that can be accessed through the Simplenote app on any of your iOS devices, or through a web browser. Whenever you open the app on an iOS device with network connectivity all your notes get updated, and then you're able to access all content locally (without a network connection). If you're away from your computer, but have access to a web browser on another computer or device, you can log into your secure account and also access all your notes. While I think there's a limit on the number of notes you can create in the free account over a period of time, in practice I don't believe you ever would hit the limit. If you want to enter notes from your computer, you can use any of the Desktop clients (or even, I suppose, open the files in Dropbox, if you have it set up that way -- but the Desktop clients like Notational Velocity have much nicer features and shortcuts for creating, searching, updating, and managing your notes). I think the reason Simplenote hasn't caught on more with visually impaired iPhone users is that most of them are using Windows, and someone told me that the various available Simplenote Desktop clients for Windows are not accessible. That's not true on the Mac side, and there are a number of clients that are accessible, with more being added. But I've been using Notational Velocity, which some Mac users have been using just for note creating regardless of the iOS devices. I'll excerpt from a blog post that I found about using Notational Velocity. I thought it was pretty funny that the user had a free Simplenote account just so that he could use the automatic syncing and online access, even though he didn't have an iPhone (and stated that he would use the app on the iPhone if he had one). I think this guy went a bit overboard on Notational Velocity, but here's the description. The URL for the full post is: http://mnmlist.com/nv/ mnmlist: using notational velocity These days I use the simple Mac program Notational Velocity to write nearly everything ? notes, lists, todos, ideas, blog posts, book chapters, rambling rants to the government, and so on. I noted this in a feature Shawn Blanc did on my Sweet Mac Setup (and indeed it is sweet), and several readers asked for an elaboration ? how do I use NV? It?s not complicated. Notational, as many of you might know, is a lightweight program that does something very simple: ? It allows you to write text. ? It saves these texts automatically ? you never have to press Save. ? It lets you find these texts very easily through a search bar that displays matches as you type the search, very similar to Google Instant. The last part is the magic. In the location bar, you just start typing, and instantly whatever you?re looking for appears. Also if you start typing a name of a new file you want to create, you just press Return and the new file is create ? no need to go to ?New File? or something like that in a menu. And by learning one keyboard shortcut ? Cmd-L to instantly go to the ?location bar? ? you never need to use the mouse. Just type Cmd-L, start typing your search or new file name, and press Return when you?re done. Then start typing or editing with the keyboard. It?s extremely simple, but it works better than any other text editor I?ve used, and so I decided it would be all I use. I haven?t looked back. My Setup I?ve set up a couple things worth noting: ? Under Preferences/Notes/Storage, I?ve set it to store notes as plain text files. This allows me to email individual text files to people if necessary, to open them in other text editors, and to access the files from my phone if needed. ? I also have it synchronizing with Simplenote?s online service. I don?t use Simplenote as I don?t have an iPhone (if I did I would) but I like having all my notes backed up and accessible online. You can do this under Preferences/Notes/Synchronization. It?s free. ? Lastly, I moved the ?Notational Data? folder in which all the plain text notes are stored to my Dropbox folder. I haven?t used this yet, as I only use one computer yet and don?t need to access my files from other computers, but I like that it?s instantly backed up and accessible online ? once again. It?s also free and easy to set up. I love NV for its lightness, its simplicity, its speed. It does everything I need with a minimum of fuss, which is basically perfect. You can get Simplenote from the App Store: ? Simplenote (free) by Codality http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/simplenote/id289429962?mt=8 ? The various desktop clients and helpers are listed at the Simplenote downloads page: http://simplenoteapp.com/downloads/ ? The direct link to the free Notational Velocity app is: http://notational.net/ When you start up Notational Velocity, go to the preferences file (Command+comma) to set up syncing with Simplenote (and insert your account information). You can also select your preferred external text editor, etc. There's an extensive list of keyboard shortcuts in the Help menu. But basically, you only need to press Command+L, type in the name of the file or note you want to create, and then type or paste in the text your want to sync to Simplenote. I actually have a premium account subscription to Simplenote (currently either $1.99/month or $19.99/year), which gives me a number of other features (including a more convenient way to set Dropbox syncing, an email address to which I can send content I want to automatically turn into notes, an RSS feed for notes, the ability to convert notes into todo lists or public web pages, more archiving features, and a number of other things). However, I'd recommend that you just get the basic free app and decide whether you like it. The accessible searching with VoiceOver works in the free app. What's different about the way searching is handled within notes in Simplenote is that instead of highlighting the search terms, which doesn't do anything for VoiceOver users, the text with the match to the search term is shifted to the top line of the visible file. So if you touch the top of the screen just below the heading, you'll access the line with the matched text. You can't run your search and find entirely from a paired Bluetooth keyboard because of this, but what I do with the Apple Wireless Keyboard is run the search, then navigate to select the note I want that matches the search term. Then, to check the matches within the file, I touch the screen below the top heading and do a two finger flick down to start reading the matched content. If I want to go to the next match I use VO+Right arrow on the keyboard to move to the button for finding the "next" match and activate that, then touch the top of the screen again to locate the matched phrase and do another two finger flick down to start reading. If I want to stop and move to the next match, I can just two finger tap to stop reading and use VO+Right arrow to the button to find the next match -- or you can navigate to the button for the previous match if you want to move back. This all works really well. Even if you don't care about being able to search in your notes files within Simplenote, I'd still recommend it. By default the notes are ordered so that most recently used notes appear first, but if there's something you want at the beginning, like your train travel itinerary, just use the option to "pin" the note and it will appear first. If you want recommendations about other note-taking apps, I can discuss Notesy, Plain Text, Elements, Nebulous Notes, etc. These are all pretty good. Notesy will let you search for matching terms in either all notes, or just the notes created/modified in the last week. But none of these other note taking apps apart from Simplenote lets you accessibly find and navigate to matched terms within individual notes. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 23, 2012, at 06:11, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I would recomend plain text or notesy for this. both intagrate with dropbox and you can change everything on the fly and it will reflect back on your mac when you get home. > > Take care. > On Jan 23, 2012, at 6:43 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote: > >> Hello, >> I have details of a train journey I need to make on a TXT file on my iMac. Is it possible to transfer this to my iPhone and then view it on the iPhone to remind me of changes during the journey? >> >> In general can one move files of arbitrary file type to the iPhone and store them in a folder on the iPhone? This can be done via iTunes for certain file types but I am unclear whether it will work for TXCT and DOC files. >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Paul Hopewell From jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 18:21:08 2012 From: jonathan.tyrer at gmail.com (Jonathan Tyrer) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:21:08 +0000 Subject: Notebook app Message-ID: Has anyone any experience of using the Mac app Notebook? Also, has anyone had any success with any of the other note-taking apps such as Evernote that have versions for both Mac and iPhone? I've been using Notational Velocity with SimpleNote, but I don't like SimpleNote and would like to use a different iPhone app. I#ve used Elements to, but dont really like that either. Fussy aren't I? JT From tsiegel at softcon.com Mon Jan 23 18:49:27 2012 From: tsiegel at softcon.com (Travis Siegel) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:49:27 -0500 Subject: Quick time 7 and VO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8A2279F1-C2B1-4B0E-B24C-B8556D971454@softcon.com> I don't have lion, but even in tiger, leopard and snowleopard, this isn't new. The solution is rather simple, but not one you'd probably figure on. Simply go ahead and vo-right/left to get the button you want (play, fast forward, rewind, whatever) then simply press the space bar. That'll activate the button for you, and it will operate as it should. Why this is, I don't know, but it's only a minor irritation (Actually, I like it better, because it means less keystrokes to get it working), so there you go. Just use a spacebar, no vo keys at all after you're positioned on the button of choice. hth. From moriond at mac.com Mon Jan 23 18:52:03 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:52:03 -1000 Subject: Audio Editors {was Re: voxie recorder question] In-Reply-To: References: <4FE54468-EE8A-4358-AE99-D374706EF734@mac.com> Message-ID: <3319B076-4F2E-4952-8FB0-F1FD5F4FDBBA@mac.com> Hi Paul, I like Amadeus Pro as an audio editor, although the price of the recent version is higher than it was in past years ($60, vs. $40 for a long time). On the other hand, I think that I used the previous version for 4 years, continuing to get updates at no cost, before the latest, major revision. It has a nice function for automatically setting markers in the middle of "silent" portions of tracks that you can then split into sections with a simple shortcut command. It also has a good de-noising scheme, where you can give it a sample of your recording where there is no (intended) signal, and use that to de-noise your other sections of track. There's a Lite version that might work for you. It won't support multi-track recording or editing, the use of audio plug-ins, or batch mode processing. (Batch mode can be a useful function). But you could get that and upgrade to Pro when/if you need the extra functionality. I basically first used this program (or it's progenitor) to digitize my old cassette tape recordings. You can record directly using it, and it will handle many different input file formats, including AIFF files, and export to many different formats, including mp3 files. There are also some nice features like the ability to export a selected section as a ringtone and automatically add it to iTunes (in "one swell foop"). If you only need to cut out sections of tracks, you might also consider a simple editor like Fission from Rogue Amoeba. There are many people on this list who work more extensively than I do with audio recording and editing, and who can give you more advice. I don't know of any recent podcasts, but there's a very nice Blind Cool Tech podcast that Eric Caron made about using Amadeus Pro: ? "Amadeus Pro Vinyl to CD" (January 27, 2010) http://media.libsyn.com/media/bct/bct1436AmadeusProVinylToCD.mp3 Allison also has a podcast giving an overview of Amadeus Pro on her web site: http://gwenna.podbean.com (Type "Amadeus Pro" into the search box on that site to find the episode) and Dane also made an earlier Blind Cool Tech podcast about using Amadeus Pro for batch processing. The title was "Amadeus Pro Batch Processing" and the date was May 2009 -- sorry, but I don't have the direct link. You can download a free trial version of Amadeus Pro from the web page: http://www.hairersoft.com/pro.html There's also a quick guide to Amadeus Pro (and other sound editors) at the icanworkthisthing document pages that Keith maintains: ? Audio and Recording With Mac and Voiceover http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/ They may not have all the new features and shortcuts, though. Some of the other users can probably make suggestions that will help you out here. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 23, 2012, at 07:50, Paul Hopewell wrote: > Hi Esther, > Many thanks for the information on how to transfer recordings from Voxie on the iPhone to iTunes on my iMac. It all worked as you describe. > I now have to play the piano a bit better! > I will also have to acquire an audio editor for my iMac so that I can split a single recording of multiple songs into separate recordings for each song and to also remove those annoying hesitations while I find the correct chord! Can you recommend an accessible audio editor (I do not have any audio editor installed)? WIll the audio editor work with the AIFF files created by Voxie? I imagine I would need to edit the source audio before converting the result to MP3 which presumably the audio editor would do. > Many thanks for your help. > > Paul Hopewell > > On 23 Jan 2012, at 12:18, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> To transfer your recordings from Voxie recorder via wireless, first make sure that your iPhone and computer are on the same wireless network, then double tap the "Recordings" button (third of five buttons at the bottom of the screen, and just above the Home button). If you are starting from the screen for a specific recording with the six-pack of control keys for "Record", "Play", "Erase", "Title", "Categorize", and "Status", followed by the playhead position indicator, you'll have to first leave this screen by double tapping the "Cancel" button at the bottom left, just beside the "Actions" button that you can use to email your recording. Then, depending on how you navigated to that screen, you'll either already be in a screen listing your recordings or you'll be able to navigate there via the "Recordings" button. If you navigate to the "Recordings" screen via the buttons, select your category, which can also be "All Recordings", and double tap it. Then, on the screen listing your recordings, there will be a "Voxie Sync" button near the bottom right corner of the screen, just above the row of five option buttons. Double tapping this button will give you an info screen that will tell you the IP address to point your computer's web browser to in order to access and transfer your recordings. This will be the four digit IP address of your iOS device -- the same one that would show up in the main settings menu under the detailed WiFi information for your device -- followed by a colon and the port number "8080". So, for example, my screen tells me to visit the web address: "10.0.1.3:8080" in my web browser and double tap the "Finished" button at the bottom of the screen when I am done. On your computer, in Safari, Chrome, or whatever web browser you're using, go to the address bar with Command+L, then type in the address that was given on your Voxie Sync screen, e.g., "10.0.1.3:8080" in my case, then press return. >> >> You will see a screen with a list of your recordings and their titles, dates, sizes, etc. from which you can select recordings that you want to download on your computer. When you're done just go back to your iPhone screen and double tap the "Finished" button to get out of the Voxie Sync screen. >> >> Recordings are done in AIFF format, so you'll have to import into iTunes and convert this to mp3. Voxie lets you specify the Audio Quality of recordings under the last item of the "Settings" screen, but if you change this from "Normal - 8kHz" to one of the higher quality settings (up to "CD Quality - 44kHz") the sizes can get rather large. >> >> I wrote up some detailed notes about using Voxie over two years ago. Apologies to Lynne and Gordon for referencing the Mail Archive posts on another list, but this predates the existence of the archive for this list, so I can't point to the posts I wrote about Voxie on this list. Here are the links: >> ? Tips for using the Voxie Pro app for recording on the iPhone/iPod Touch >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries at googlegroups.com/msg14822.html >> ? Re: Tips for using the Voxie Pro app for recording on the iPhone/iPod Touch >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries at googlegroups.com/msg14841.html >> ? Voxie Pro Recorder - how to delete recordings >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries at googlegroups.com/msg15111.html >> >> These outline using Express mode settings (recommended), the process of transferring recordings through Wi-Fi (your question), using the position slider to review recordings, or to change the point at which you want to append to an existing recording, and a few other items. Some of the instructions were replies to Windows users, so if there are explicit shortcuts mentioned for importing to iTunes with Control+O, change the use of the Control key (for Windows iTunes) to the Command key (for Macs). >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> On Jan 23, 2012, at 00:26, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I have recently installed the voxie recorder on my iPhone. tis works well for recording short notes. I would now like to use it too record live music which will result in a largish file (too large to Email). How can I transfer this file onto my iMac, convert it to MP3, and add it to iTunes? >>> >>> Many thanks for any tips. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> >> From moriond at mac.com Mon Jan 23 18:59:53 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:59:53 -1000 Subject: Quick time 7 and VO In-Reply-To: <8A2279F1-C2B1-4B0E-B24C-B8556D971454@softcon.com> References: <8A2279F1-C2B1-4B0E-B24C-B8556D971454@softcon.com> Message-ID: <316971DF-BA18-42E2-9326-B2281B89897A@mac.com> Thanks, Travis, you're absolutely correct that space bar by itself works with QuickTime Player. I forgot about this. This is like some of the instances in system preferences, at least in earlier versions like Tiger and Leopard, where following directions to click in the field gets you absolutely nowhere, but simply pressing tab would work. Go figure. Cheers, Esther On Jan 23, 2012, at 08:49, Travis Siegel wrote: > I don't have lion, but even in tiger, leopard and snowleopard, this isn't new. > The solution is rather simple, but not one you'd probably figure on. > Simply go ahead and vo-right/left to get the button you want (play, fast forward, rewind, whatever) then simply press the space bar. That'll activate the button for you, and it will operate as it should. > Why this is, I don't know, but it's only a minor irritation (Actually, I like it better, because it means less keystrokes to get it working), so there you go. > Just use a spacebar, no vo keys at all after you're positioned on the button of choice. > hth. > From moriond at mac.com Mon Jan 23 19:22:35 2012 From: moriond at mac.com (Esther) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:22:35 -1000 Subject: Notebook app In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2D11D8FC-0F0B-4D76-BF8F-8CEDAF6E6999@mac.com> Hmm, I know that Caroline likes iA Writer, which exists as a Mac app and an app for the iPad, but doesn't have an iPhone version. It might be helpful to know what features you would prefer, in order to make suggestions. For example, I never use the ability to select different fonts in Elements, which some users of that app like. I also know that Simplenote doesn't offer very large fonts for low vision users, but I don't use that feature. Some people like the ability in Nebulous Notes to access any folder in your Dropbox, but others dislike the fact that it won't automatically sync and save notes unless you explicitly perform this function. Quite a lot of people like Notesy. You can also custom configure the on-screen keyboard, but I find this a bit of overkill. I realize this is very personal. Hopefully, you can read comments about apps, and decide what would be a good match to your preferences. For example, I are primarily about regular text content (no formatting), and having very fast, stable, automatic syncing. I don't care about font features, and I like having access to word count, etc. I also don't mind using keyboard shortcut based navigation on the Mac. I know that's not true for everyone. For Paul, with the Dropbox based note applications you'll probably also want to get the free Dropbox app for your iPhone. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jan 23, 2012, at 08:21, Jonathan Tyrer wrote: > Has anyone any experience of using the Mac app Notebook? > > Also, has anyone had any success with any of the other note-taking > apps such as Evernote that have versions for both Mac and iPhone? > > I've been using Notational Velocity with SimpleNote, but I don't like > SimpleNote and would like to use a different iPhone app. > > I#ve used Elements to, but dont really like that either. > > Fussy aren't I? > > JT From marrie12 at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 20:23:57 2012 From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:23:57 -0800 Subject: Quick time 7 and VO In-Reply-To: <8A2279F1-C2B1-4B0E-B24C-B8556D971454@softcon.com> References: <8A2279F1-C2B1-4B0E-B24C-B8556D971454@softcon.com> Message-ID: <84427DC4-8F20-4324-B790-C426CB83C55E@gmail.com> Not when you do the screen recording. you hit vo space or just space and you get a ding. Vo left and right gives you a high pitch e5 note so it's almost impossibil to get it going unless ou yell alot lol! On Jan 23, 2012, at 10:49, Travis Siegel wrote: > I don't have lion, but even in tiger, leopard and snowleopard, this isn't new. > The solution is rather simple, but not one you'd probably figure on. > Simply go ahead and vo-right/left to get the button you want (play, fast forward, rewind, whatever) then simply press the space bar. That'll activate the button for you, and it will operate as it should. > Why this is, I don't know, but it's only a minor irritation (Actually, I like it better, because it means less keystrokes to get it working), so there you go. > Just use a spacebar, no vo keys at all after you're positioned on the button of choice. > hth. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From annieskovnielsen at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 21:10:39 2012 From: annieskovnielsen at gmail.com (Annie Skov Nielsen) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:10:39 +0100 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: <628097BA-118D-464F-BC9E-C9AB0BFAE18E@Mac-Access.net> References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> <52895055-071F-4D7F-9B03-3AA0845EFD36@gmail.com> <92602F54-4AEB-4C3B-AD3D-074F132CAACB@Mac-Access.net> <6CFCA1EC-D818-4B5A-BF68-B854C95476AD@gmail.com> <628097BA-118D-464F-BC9E-C9AB0BFAE18E@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: Hi Eric. I can not find the button for recording level. I have also read that I can change the recording level, but the setting is not there. What am I doing wrong? In my settings it says setings, the next heading is audio when record format and next record quality. I am afraid something will not show up here, or does VoiceOver play with me. Thank you an advance. Best regards Annie. Den Jan 22, 2012 kl. 10:37 PM skrev Eric Caron: > > Hi Annie, > > If you are looking for a way to have List Recorder recordings be done in different levels you actually can do that. Go to settings and tap on the recording level and you will find it is adjustable. The same is true of the type of recording. For example you can change it to .WAV. And you can change the Hertz from 8 to 44. > > You can also change to stereo if you have a external microphone. Is that the level adjustment you were missing in List Recorder? > > Eric Caron > > > On Jan 22, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> You will also need the full version of list recorder to record more than 10 seconds. >> >> It is not as difficult to work with list recorder as it first looks. I got a lot of knowledge by reading the quick guide that's in the app, when you download it. >> >> I miss a few features in list recorder. I miss recording level control and setting. >> >> I have also found an app, that I will try to figure out, if the developer wil change a few things, so it will become accessible. When I have got an answer, I will tell more about it. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> Den Jan 22, 2012 kl. 5:01 PM skrev Eric Caron: >> >>> Hi Annie, Courtney and others, >>> >>> Courtney had asked about getting the text from List Recorder to the computer. I found the answer and in typical List Recorder fashion it is easy. >>> When you create a List recorder item it can have audio, a title, and text. If you want that information on your computer you can move it in a few different ways. the easiest I have found is to: >>> >>> Open the item >>> tap on the actions button >>> tap on email >>> the title of the item becomes the subject, the text area becomes the body of the email, and the audio is a attachment. >>> send it to yourself and you are all set. >>> >>> Remember the audio is in the iPhone default format so if you are using a PC you may want to change the recording default in settings to .WAV. >>> >>> Annie, >>> >>> I've been reading your posts for a long time and never picked up that you were using English as a second language! I've been studying French for a few years now and could never communicate on a French email list! >>> >>> I look forward to your future posts. >>> >>> Though I have both recorders you are now using I currently only use List Recorder on a regular bases. If I can help please let me know. >>> >>> I could offer you my first podcast but it is rather elementary even describing how to download the full version and how to do simple things like create lists and check and uncheck items. >>> >>> If folks want it I can offer it to Gordon or just put out a dropbox link to it. >>> >>> Oh! >>> >>> to use the email function you will need the full version of List Recorder. >>> >>> Best. >>> >>> eRic Caron >>> >>> >>> On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:29 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >>> >>>> Hi. >>>> >>>> Thank you to all of you for suggesting apps for recording. I have played a little with list recorder now, and it is a very great program. What I really like is that I can have some text in the same window as I am recording. >>>> >>>> Sorry for the misspelling i did in a previous mail, english is not my primary language at all, I am danish. >>>> >>>> Best regards Annie. >>>> Den Jan 21, 2012 kl. 10:17 PM skrev Eric Caron: >>>> >>>>> Hi Courtney, >>>>> >>>>> I'm pretty sure you can access the written text in List Recorder from your PC or Mac, but I have not learned how to do that yet. I'm in the process of increasing my skills in this App and have started a series of podcasts designed to walk through the features. Once I get a few more done I'll let the list know. I've only finished one so far. I've given it to Blindcooltech.com but I'm concerned they may not be posting new submissions. I also sent it to the List Recorder developer and she did write to me and said she planned to post it on her site. the List Recorder site is sixth mode.com There are detailed tutorials there. >>>>> >>>>> Again I'm pretty sure you can move the text along with the title and recording but I have not tried it yet. I had good success in the past with both the email and save to dropbox functions. I also used the iTunes file sharing but need to refresh myself how to use it! >>>>> >>>>> Eric Caron >>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text document or something? >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Courtney >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my macbook air >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Annie, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. >>>>>>> I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the Developer also keeps improving and adding features. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so many features that you really need to take the time to read the documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use recorder and note taker. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eric Caron >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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>>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From zkline at speedpost.net Mon Jan 23 21:15:36 2012 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:15:36 -0800 Subject: Tax software? Message-ID: <1BA8F833-5BC7-4900-9169-5457E8098167@speedpost.net> Hi All, I was wondering about tax preparation programs for the Mac? Are there any accessible ones people can recommend? Thanks for any info, Zack. From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Jan 23 21:16:16 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:16:16 +0000 Subject: finding Beam in app store In-Reply-To: <3DFA4715-53D3-4675-AFF3-9EF4ECC612DE@gmail.com> References: <-4244236215493839426@unknownmsgid> <3DFA4715-53D3-4675-AFF3-9EF4ECC612DE@gmail.com> Message-ID: Margaret et al, If you can't find it in the App Store, you'll find Bean here: http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html TC :) J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 23 Jan 2012, at 11:10, Robert Hill wrote: > Hi Margaret and all, > > The name of the program is bean, like the vegetable. > > Take care. > > Bob Hill > > On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:11 AM, Margaret Booth wrote: > >> I have just tried to find Beam the free word processing program in the >> app store on my mac book pro and I couldn't find it. I typed in Beam >> in search and it didn't come up. Can someone tell me how to find Beam >> in the app store. >> Margaret >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From desiandcandy at q.com Mon Jan 23 22:00:52 2012 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:00:52 -0700 Subject: Syncing Contacts On iPad Message-ID: Hi Everyone, My husband received an iPad 2 for Christmas. We were away from home, but he got his e-mail all set up and got his iPad registered. Today he finally decided to plug into his iMac so that he could sync his contacts to his iPad. He is still using Snow Leopard. Anyway, we couldn't find anywhere where anything was said about syncing contacts, and it has been long enough since I synced my iPod Touch with my own computer, that I didn't remember how to tell him to do it. Any help would be much appreciated! Desi From zkline at speedpost.net Mon Jan 23 22:03:15 2012 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:03:15 -0800 Subject: Syncing Contacts On iPad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <235762B9-F378-4ACE-ACAF-8D109FB8B4E8@speedpost.net> Hi Desi, I'd suggest looking at he Info tab in iTUnes with your device selected. iCloud is also a possibility here, to do this wirelessly. Yours, Zack. On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Desi Noller wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > My husband received an iPad 2 for Christmas. We were away from home, but he got his e-mail all set up and got his iPad registered. Today he finally decided to plug into his iMac so that he could sync his contacts to his iPad. He is still using Snow Leopard. Anyway, we couldn't find anywhere where anything was said about syncing contacts, and it has been long enough since I synced my iPod Touch with my own computer, that I didn't remember how to tell him to do it. Any help would be much appreciated! > > Desi > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From desiandcandy at q.com Mon Jan 23 22:20:28 2012 From: desiandcandy at q.com (Desi Noller) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:20:28 -0700 Subject: Syncing Contacts On iPad In-Reply-To: <235762B9-F378-4ACE-ACAF-8D109FB8B4E8@speedpost.net> References: <235762B9-F378-4ACE-ACAF-8D109FB8B4E8@speedpost.net> Message-ID: Hi Zack, That was exactly the missing piece! Thanks so much! He now has his contacts, and is delighted! Desi On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Desi, > I'd suggest looking at he Info tab in iTUnes with your device selected. iCloud is also a possibility here, to do this wirelessly. > Yours, > Zack. > On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Desi Noller wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> My husband received an iPad 2 for Christmas. We were away from home, but he got his e-mail all set up and got his iPad registered. Today he finally decided to plug into his iMac so that he could sync his contacts to his iPad. He is still using Snow Leopard. Anyway, we couldn't find anywhere where anything was said about syncing contacts, and it has been long enough since I synced my iPod Touch with my own computer, that I didn't remember how to tell him to do it. Any help would be much appreciated! >> >> Desi >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From opensesame at me.com Mon Jan 23 22:24:52 2012 From: opensesame at me.com (Bryan Jones) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:24:52 -0500 Subject: Tax software? In-Reply-To: <1BA8F833-5BC7-4900-9169-5457E8098167@speedpost.net> References: <1BA8F833-5BC7-4900-9169-5457E8098167@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <65CC0828-E62A-4F40-BDF9-ED245554E8B5@me.com> Hi Zack, If you're asking about US tax prep software, you might want to take a look at taxact.com. It's web-based, obviously, so you'd beed to feel comfortable with your personal information being out there in another part of the ether. I found it to be accessible with VO last year, but I haven't yet gotten started on this year's returns so am not sure it still is. . If I remember correctly, you can actually do a complete return online for free, but the cost comes when you file your return through taxact. They also have state returns. HTH, Bryan On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > I was wondering about tax preparation programs for the Mac? Are there any accessible ones people can recommend? From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Jan 23 23:02:45 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:02:45 +0000 Subject: Syncing Contacts On iPad In-Reply-To: References: <235762B9-F378-4ACE-ACAF-8D109FB8B4E8@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <37F58E2A-1805-489A-8B4D-A45815EF314B@mac-access.net> Does iCloud work for you? Personally, I couldn't get it to work correctly. I ended up with quadruple contacts. As you can imagine, this annoyed me so much, that I was seriously considering taking a large axe to Aple's servers. TC :) J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 23 Jan 2012, at 22:20, Desi Noller wrote: > Hi Zack, > > That was exactly the missing piece! Thanks so much! He now has his contacts, and is delighted! > > Desi > > > > On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Desi, >> I'd suggest looking at he Info tab in iTUnes with your device selected. iCloud is also a possibility here, to do this wirelessly. >> Yours, >> Zack. >> On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Desi Noller wrote: >> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> My husband received an iPad 2 for Christmas. We were away from home, but he got his e-mail all set up and got his iPad registered. Today he finally decided to plug into his iMac so that he could sync his contacts to his iPad. He is still using Snow Leopard. Anyway, we couldn't find anywhere where anything was said about syncing contacts, and it has been long enough since I synced my iPod Touch with my own computer, that I didn't remember how to tell him to do it. Any help would be much appreciated! >>> >>> Desi >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From zkline at speedpost.net Mon Jan 23 23:07:49 2012 From: zkline at speedpost.net (Zachary Kline) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:07:49 -0800 Subject: Syncing Contacts On iPad In-Reply-To: <37F58E2A-1805-489A-8B4D-A45815EF314B@mac-access.net> References: <235762B9-F378-4ACE-ACAF-8D109FB8B4E8@speedpost.net> <37F58E2A-1805-489A-8B4D-A45815EF314B@mac-access.net> Message-ID: <8900638A-2D9D-4B61-8D3E-143648F8B698@speedpost.net> Hi James, Yep, iCloud works quite well for me. The key is understanding what it does. In a nutshell it creates a separate account for you to use with Address Book or your iOS devices. If you use it to hold all your contacts, and disable syncing them via iTunes, you should be able to avoid duplicates. Yours, Zack. On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:02 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Does iCloud work for you? Personally, I couldn't get it to work correctly. I ended up with quadruple contacts. As you can imagine, this annoyed me so much, that I was seriously considering taking a large axe to Aple's servers. > > TC :) > J > You can contact me in the following ways: > E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you > > On 23 Jan 2012, at 22:20, Desi Noller wrote: > >> Hi Zack, >> >> That was exactly the missing piece! Thanks so much! He now has his contacts, and is delighted! >> >> Desi >> >> >> >> On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >> >>> Hi Desi, >>> I'd suggest looking at he Info tab in iTUnes with your device selected. iCloud is also a possibility here, to do this wirelessly. >>> Yours, >>> Zack. >>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Desi Noller wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> >>>> My husband received an iPad 2 for Christmas. We were away from home, but he got his e-mail all set up and got his iPad registered. Today he finally decided to plug into his iMac so that he could sync his contacts to his iPad. He is still using Snow Leopard. Anyway, we couldn't find anywhere where anything was said about syncing contacts, and it has been long enough since I synced my iPod Touch with my own computer, that I didn't remember how to tell him to do it. Any help would be much appreciated! >>>> >>>> Desi >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From james.austin at mac-access.net Mon Jan 23 23:26:13 2012 From: james.austin at mac-access.net (James AUSTIN) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:26:13 +0000 Subject: Syncing Contacts On iPad In-Reply-To: <8900638A-2D9D-4B61-8D3E-143648F8B698@speedpost.net> References: <235762B9-F378-4ACE-ACAF-8D109FB8B4E8@speedpost.net> <37F58E2A-1805-489A-8B4D-A45815EF314B@mac-access.net> <8900638A-2D9D-4B61-8D3E-143648F8B698@speedpost.net> Message-ID: <40570E99-4C1F-4CF2-BF8E-272E74432697@mac-access.net> Hi Zack, Thanks for the confirmation, yes, as far as i understand it, this is what iCloud should do. Perhaps I'll retry iCloud at the weekend yours J You can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you On 23 Jan 2012, at 23:07, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi James, > Yep, iCloud works quite well for me. The key is understanding what it does. In a nutshell it creates a separate account for you to use with Address Book or your iOS devices. If you use it to hold all your contacts, and disable syncing them via iTunes, you should be able to avoid duplicates. > Yours, > Zack. > On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:02 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > >> Does iCloud work for you? Personally, I couldn't get it to work correctly. I ended up with quadruple contacts. As you can imagine, this annoyed me so much, that I was seriously considering taking a large axe to Aple's servers. >> >> TC :) >> J >> You can contact me in the following ways: >> E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net >> MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com >> Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you >> >> On 23 Jan 2012, at 22:20, Desi Noller wrote: >> >>> Hi Zack, >>> >>> That was exactly the missing piece! Thanks so much! He now has his contacts, and is delighted! >>> >>> Desi >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Desi, >>>> I'd suggest looking at he Info tab in iTUnes with your device selected. iCloud is also a possibility here, to do this wirelessly. >>>> Yours, >>>> Zack. >>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Desi Noller wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> My husband received an iPad 2 for Christmas. We were away from home, but he got his e-mail all set up and got his iPad registered. Today he finally decided to plug into his iMac so that he could sync his contacts to his iPad. He is still using Snow Leopard. Anyway, we couldn't find anywhere where anything was said about syncing contacts, and it has been long enough since I synced my iPod Touch with my own computer, that I didn't remember how to tell him to do it. Any help would be much appreciated! >>>>> >>>>> Desi >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From caitlyn.furness at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 23:39:07 2012 From: caitlyn.furness at gmail.com (Caitlyn Furness) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:39:07 -0500 Subject: Reading .rtf files on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use either text edit or pages. Caitlyn On Jan 22, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Roger Firman wrote: > Hello, > > What do people recommend for reading .rtf files please? > > Regards, > > Roger. > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From wagners96 at verizon.net Mon Jan 23 23:41:23 2012 From: wagners96 at verizon.net (Carolyn Wagner) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:41:23 -0500 Subject: Syncing Contacts On iPad In-Reply-To: <40570E99-4C1F-4CF2-BF8E-272E74432697@mac-access.net> References: <235762B9-F378-4ACE-ACAF-8D109FB8B4E8@speedpost.net> <37F58E2A-1805-489A-8B4D-A45815EF314B@mac-access.net> <8900638A-2D9D-4B61-8D3E-143648F8B698@speedpost.net> <40570E99-4C1F-4CF2-BF8E-272E74432697@mac-access.net> Message-ID: What happens when you have multiple devices? As a family we share one itunes account but have 3 iphones with different contacts, how do we avoid duplicates on icloud, and deleting each other's contacts? On Jan 23, 2012, at 6:26 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Zack, > > Thanks for the confirmation, yes, as far as i understand it, this is what iCloud should do. Perhaps I'll retry iCloud at the weekend > > yours > J > You can contact me in the following ways: > E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net > MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com > Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you > > On 23 Jan 2012, at 23:07, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi James, >> Yep, iCloud works quite well for me. The key is understanding what it does. In a nutshell it creates a separate account for you to use with Address Book or your iOS devices. If you use it to hold all your contacts, and disable syncing them via iTunes, you should be able to avoid duplicates. >> Yours, >> Zack. >> On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:02 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: >> >>> Does iCloud work for you? Personally, I couldn't get it to work correctly. I ended up with quadruple contacts. As you can imagine, this annoyed me so much, that I was seriously considering taking a large axe to Aple's servers. >>> >>> TC :) >>> J >>> You can contact me in the following ways: >>> E-Mail:james.austin at mac-access.net >>> MSN: james.londonsw15 at gmail.com >>> Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you >>> >>> On 23 Jan 2012, at 22:20, Desi Noller wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Zack, >>>> >>>> That was exactly the missing piece! Thanks so much! He now has his contacts, and is delighted! >>>> >>>> Desi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Desi, >>>>> I'd suggest looking at he Info tab in iTUnes with your device selected. iCloud is also a possibility here, to do this wirelessly. >>>>> Yours, >>>>> Zack. >>>>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Desi Noller wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> My husband received an iPad 2 for Christmas. We were away from home, but he got his e-mail all set up and got his iPad registered. Today he finally decided to plug into his iMac so that he could sync his contacts to his iPad. He is still using Snow Leopard. Anyway, we couldn't find anywhere where anything was said about syncing contacts, and it has been long enough since I synced my iPod Touch with my own computer, that I didn't remember how to tell him to do it. Any help would be much appreciated! >>>>>> >>>>>> Desi >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> . >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> . >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> . >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> . >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> . >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Tue Jan 24 00:23:55 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:23:55 -0500 Subject: Can anyone recommend an app for recording on IPhone and IPad. In-Reply-To: References: <6611F8AB-7DF1-44C5-B337-736D652E8280@gmail.com> <92788430-38B4-411A-B2A0-D3E78CFDD321@Mac-Access.net> <52895055-071F-4D7F-9B03-3AA0845EFD36@gmail.com> <92602F54-4AEB-4C3B-AD3D-074F132CAACB@Mac-Access.net> <6CFCA1EC-D818-4B5A-BF68-B854C95476AD@gmail.com> <628097BA-118D-464F-BC9E-C9AB0BFAE18E@Mac-Access.net> Message-ID: <69846CCF-B7CF-41AD-80CA-6153A3BB7A03@Mac-Access.net> Hi Annie, YOu are doing it right. I think Voice over is the problem. In most cases when you are on a item that can be changed voice Over says something like "button" or "adjustable" But, for some reason In List Recorder in settings the items don't say they are buttons or adjustable, but they are. Place your focus on the level indicator, it probably says 22 KHZ. double tap on it and you will be able to change the level from a low of 8 KHZ to a high of 44 KHZ. You can do the same thing with the audio type which is the item before the level. Just double tap on it and you can change it from the iPhone format to .WAV. I'm working on a podcast that shows all this but I'm having problems with my Mac Book, and have not been able to finish. I hope this helps. Eric Caron On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Eric. > > I can not find the button for recording level. I have also read that I can change the recording level, but the setting is not there. What am I doing wrong? In my settings it says setings, the next heading is audio when record format and next record quality. I am afraid something will not show up here, or does VoiceOver play with me. > > Thank you an advance. > > Best regards Annie. > Den Jan 22, 2012 kl. 10:37 PM skrev Eric Caron: > >> >> Hi Annie, >> >> If you are looking for a way to have List Recorder recordings be done in different levels you actually can do that. Go to settings and tap on the recording level and you will find it is adjustable. The same is true of the type of recording. For example you can change it to .WAV. And you can change the Hertz from 8 to 44. >> >> You can also change to stereo if you have a external microphone. Is that the level adjustment you were missing in List Recorder? >> >> Eric Caron >> >> >> On Jan 22, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> You will also need the full version of list recorder to record more than 10 seconds. >>> >>> It is not as difficult to work with list recorder as it first looks. I got a lot of knowledge by reading the quick guide that's in the app, when you download it. >>> >>> I miss a few features in list recorder. I miss recording level control and setting. >>> >>> I have also found an app, that I will try to figure out, if the developer wil change a few things, so it will become accessible. When I have got an answer, I will tell more about it. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> Den Jan 22, 2012 kl. 5:01 PM skrev Eric Caron: >>> >>>> Hi Annie, Courtney and others, >>>> >>>> Courtney had asked about getting the text from List Recorder to the computer. I found the answer and in typical List Recorder fashion it is easy. >>>> When you create a List recorder item it can have audio, a title, and text. If you want that information on your computer you can move it in a few different ways. the easiest I have found is to: >>>> >>>> Open the item >>>> tap on the actions button >>>> tap on email >>>> the title of the item becomes the subject, the text area becomes the body of the email, and the audio is a attachment. >>>> send it to yourself and you are all set. >>>> >>>> Remember the audio is in the iPhone default format so if you are using a PC you may want to change the recording default in settings to .WAV. >>>> >>>> Annie, >>>> >>>> I've been reading your posts for a long time and never picked up that you were using English as a second language! I've been studying French for a few years now and could never communicate on a French email list! >>>> >>>> I look forward to your future posts. >>>> >>>> Though I have both recorders you are now using I currently only use List Recorder on a regular bases. If I can help please let me know. >>>> >>>> I could offer you my first podcast but it is rather elementary even describing how to download the full version and how to do simple things like create lists and check and uncheck items. >>>> >>>> If folks want it I can offer it to Gordon or just put out a dropbox link to it. >>>> >>>> Oh! >>>> >>>> to use the email function you will need the full version of List Recorder. >>>> >>>> Best. >>>> >>>> eRic Caron >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:29 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you to all of you for suggesting apps for recording. I have played a little with list recorder now, and it is a very great program. What I really like is that I can have some text in the same window as I am recording. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry for the misspelling i did in a previous mail, english is not my primary language at all, I am danish. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>> Den Jan 21, 2012 kl. 10:17 PM skrev Eric Caron: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Courtney, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm pretty sure you can access the written text in List Recorder from your PC or Mac, but I have not learned how to do that yet. I'm in the process of increasing my skills in this App and have started a series of podcasts designed to walk through the features. Once I get a few more done I'll let the list know. I've only finished one so far. I've given it to Blindcooltech.com but I'm concerned they may not be posting new submissions. I also sent it to the List Recorder developer and she did write to me and said she planned to post it on her site. the List Recorder site is sixth mode.com There are detailed tutorials there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Again I'm pretty sure you can move the text along with the title and recording but I have not tried it yet. I had good success in the past with both the email and save to dropbox functions. I also used the iTunes file sharing but need to refresh myself how to use it! >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric Caron >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> In list recorder, can I get my written notes out of list recorder as a text document or something? >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Courtney >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my macbook air >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Eric Caron wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Annie, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've used several apps for recording and the two I found are best are List Recorder and Voxy Recorder. I may be spelling Voxie wrong. >>>>>>>> I am a fan of List Recorder because I find it easy to organize the recording. And because the app also has many additional features. the Developer also keeps improving and adding features. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe I did read that it supports stereo recording and has several options for recording quality. You can also easily move the recording to your computer using Dropbox, email, or iTunes file share. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I used Voxie when I first got a iPhone. I liked it for the quick recording feature. But I found organizing recordings very difficult. Also I'm not good at using the FTTP method of moving recordings. Also, List recorder has the ability to do written notes and that is actually handy with both Siri and my Bluetooth keyboard. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The only tricky thing I have found in List Recorder is that there are so many features that you really need to take the time to read the documentation. Once you do that you will find it a fast and easy to use recorder and note taker. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I actually planned on doing some podcasts but have been too darn busy! I did finish one that is like a introduction and a getting started podcast but I would really need to do a series to do the app justice. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can learn more at sixth mode.com which is the developer's website. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have not tried to set it up to record in the background, so I'm not sure if that would work, but I suspect it would as other features such as play back continue in the background when I have closed the app. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Eric Caron >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are there any apps which can record in the background and in a high quality with external mic of course. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can tell that I have bought the guitar jack 2 from sonoma wire works, that lets you attach a stereo mic to your IPad and IPhone. It works great, but I still need an easy to use app for recording. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I need to make recordings in about an hour in length. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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>> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access at mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > > or at the public Mail Archive: > . > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > From eric_caron at Mac-Access.net Tue Jan 24 04:02:56 2012 From: eric_caron at Mac-Access.net (Eric Caron) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:02:56 -0500 Subject: Account Creation Information Needed Message-ID: Dear Listers, I've been having some persistent problems with my 2 year old Mac Book Running Lyon. I noticed recently that when I logged into a different account The errors did not seem to happen there. I've spent time on the phone with Apple and with friends but the problems persist on my system. I seem to remember Esther and others discussing creating another account and working inside it rather then the main administrative account. Is it possible for me to create a new user account and have my programs all available to use? I dread having to locate all my license keys again So if i set up a new account Can I just transfer in the data and get back to work or is this going to be crazy? For example what do I do about iTunes, VM fusion, I'm pretty sure I can handle setting up Safari and Mail accounts again. Will things like my Info Vox voices be available and ready to go on a new account? Suggestions on dealing with this process would be appreciated. I don't even remember how I built the accounts I have! I think I followed directions from this list! Eric Caron From khwicca at gmail.com Tue Jan 24 04:20:15 2012 From: khwicca at gmail.com (Kristeen Hughes) Date: Mon,